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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave on October 06, 2024, 04:00:14 PM
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Clean sheet!
(otherwise, pretty mediocre stuff)
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Shite.
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Very poor.
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If Forest can hang on for the draw in the other game, it's not the worst result.
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Beyond drab
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They played Thursday. Got a very jammy draw. They played with 2 old CBs. We hardly tested them or their liability of a keeper. This wasn’t a good result for us.
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Jaden shoul have won it at the end but really poor today . Duran shoud have started.
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It was completely flat. Bayern was brilliant, but the last two league games have been pretty ropey.
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Just so dull.
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I blame the ref as he bottled the sending off
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I’ll take that.
Seen much worse outcomes from this fixture on an almost endless basis for years now.
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It's a point more than we got from them last season.
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So frustrating. Even when they are shit we can’t beat them. But if you can’t win at least make sure you don’t lose it which thankfully we’ve managed today.
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Hard watch.
Barkley looked composed and read the game well.
Fact Evans was MOTM says it all.
You can say both look knackered after midweek.
Our final ball was so awry.
wholly disappointed with a draw against those cnuts shows how far we have come and they have regressed.
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2 poor league performances on the bounce. They had a game on Thursday away so I don't see that as an excuse for such a poor display.
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I’ll take that.
Seen much worse outcomes from this fixture on an almost endless basis for years now.
Exactly.
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Complete non event of a game.
Probably not hugely surprising given the effort on Wednesday.
Man. United just looking like a plucky relegation struggler in their mentality was an amusing watch.
If we want to start beating them regularly we need to show far more ambition in our general play and also get our difference makers off the bench early. We were far too negative today for an hour. Look at what Spurs did to them last week. Maybe we don't quite have the personnel to do that but it's a bit of a headscratcher to me how few minutes Maatsen is generally getting, five minutes to make an impact nowhere near enough.
Still 14 points from first 7 and two CL wins is a very good start to the season so can't complain too much. More to come with the injured players back soon.
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I've had more fun at the dentist...
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A distinct lack of nous in the last third. Can the real Ollie come to the table.
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Well, that was a dirge. Champions League hangover? Who knows, but 5/10 performances all over the pitch, and barring that chance for Philogene at the end we didn't look like ourselves going forward at all.
All that said, we played as badly as we have in quite a while, against Manchester United, and we STILL didn't lose, while also keeping a clean sheet. That's a sign of progress I guess?
I'm going to chalk this up to a bad day at the office and move on.
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Should have run at the ageing defence more in the first half.
Final ball terrible all game.
But a clean sheet.
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A good point for plucky little Man Utd who came to frustrate the Villa and hope for something on the break.
Rogers needs to learn when to pass i.e. before he tries to beat the 4th, 5th and 6th defenders.
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We put a lot of mental energy into Wednesday and it showed today. If you can't win, then don't lose.
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Too many injuries and lost all our fluency, it felt like a league cup game. Pretty poor
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Cash, Digne and Watkins were all particularly shite.
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Probably a good time for an international break for us.
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I never thought scoring would be a problem for this team but here we are
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I'd been looking forward to that but fuck me, was that dull.
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Squad being tested at the moment. 3 of our starting midfielders all out injured, Bailey not fit and now Konsa injured. Let’s hope Ty and Booby come through todays game successfully
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I blame the ref as he bottled the sending off
Was our absolutely horrendous quality in the final third today also the referees fault?
Even if Rashford had been sent off there was zero chance we were scoring a goal today.
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Why oh why do the media ignore us?!
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Poor. They looked jaded.
Hopefully with the int break get some injuries out the way. Mings and Kamara, will be great seeing those back.
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Clean sheet but man that feels like a loss to me. As usual put in a lame performance against utd.
Utd are so bad and yet we struggled
Rogers was so awful today. Wont have done himself any favours for England callup with that today.
Motm for me was carlos. Solid
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I never thought scoring would be a problem for this team but here we are
that's only the second league game we haven't scored in so that's nonsense
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I'll settle for that.
Without Mings, Konsa, McGinn, Kamara, Onana, Ramsey and a fit Bailey I was expecting the worst against these jammy b*stards.
Tielemans ace again.
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That was painful on the eyes.
Barkley played well , Rogers very poor .
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Cash, Digne, Rogers, Bailey and Watkins were all particularly shite.
FTFY
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If you gave me a choice between watching that again or pushing drawing pins into my scrotum, I'd be Googling the address of the nearest stationery shop.
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Clean sheet but man that feels like a loss to me. As usual put in a lame performance against utd.
Utd are so bad and yet we struggled
Rogers was so awful today. Wont have done himself any favours for England callup with that today.
Motm for me was carlos. Solid
Why does it feel like a loss? we didn't play well absolutely, but it was just one of those days and we didn't lose. can't win every match
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Clean sheet but man that feels like a loss to me. As usual put in a lame performance against utd.
Utd are so bad and yet we struggled
Rogers was so awful today. Wont have done himself any favours for England callup with that today.
Motm for me was carlos. Solid
Why does it feel like a loss? we didn't play well absolutely, but it was just one of those days and we didn't lose. can't win every match
Indeed.
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Disappointing, but not wholly unexpected given Wednesday's exploits.
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It is a point gained against this lot . we could be champions league winners and they would still nick it
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If you gave me a choice between watching that again or pushing drawing pins into my scrotum, I'd be Googling the address of the nearest stationery shop.
it shuts at 4 sadly 👀
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A good point for plucky little Man Utd who came to frustrate the Villa and hope for something on the break.
Rogers needs to learn when to pass i.e. before he tries to beat the 4th, 5th and 6th defenders.
Roger’s has this habit of trying to take an extra man on this season and it means he is not as good as the opposition are working him out.
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I don't know how any villa fan can hammer this team right now after the week we have had.
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It’s not the worst result against our bogey team. Really solid start to the season overall with plenty of improvement to come.
It’s going to be a great season.
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A good point for plucky little Man Utd who came to frustrate the Villa and hope for something on the break.
Rogers needs to learn when to pass i.e. before he tries to beat the 4th, 5th and 6th defenders.
Roger’s has this habit of trying to take an extra man on this season and it means he is not as good as the opposition are working him out.
I thought Rogers was really poor, his decision making and final ball isn't where it needs to be
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I don't usually like international breaks but this one feels bang on cue. Hopefully our involvement will be minimal and we can do a reset. Bit of warm weather training may be in order
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Big ol' puff of the cheeks was my reaction. Ah well.
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It’s not the worst result against our bogey team. Really solid start to the season overall with plenty of improvement to come.
It’s going to be a great season.
Well said…and we have beaten Bayern Munich already.
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Pretty poor fare. I think Emery got it wrong today, a high tempo would have destroyed them, far too pedestrian. Cash looked ropey, Bailey is nowhere near fit, Carlos did well again and the set plays were utter wank. A point gained as we were that poor. Hopefully some of the lads can start to come back to fitness and by the end of the month, we may start to see a first 11....
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We were really poor. Our usual match winners were the worst of the lot. I suppose how disappointing a lot of us are with a draw against that lot, shows just how far we’ve come.
They set up for a draw and we struggled to create anything. We desperately need some of the injured players back.
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Eh, two ugly draws in a row, it happens.
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I don't usually like international breaks but this one feels bang on cue. Hopefully our involvement will be minimal and we can do a reset. Bit of warm weather training may be in order
Need to get Bailey back on track somehow and clear up injuries.
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Very poor game but it’s a sign how far we’ve as we would certainly have lost that game in previous seasons. Lots of below par performances but some good ones, Barkley, Jade and Carlos. I think it’s not an injury with Bailey but total lack of confidence.
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Would have taken four points at the start of the week. Be nice if we could have just one referee who wasn't a fucking coward when it came to sending off opponents.
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Very poor game but it’s a sign how far we’ve as we would certainly have lost that game in previous seasons. Lots of below par performances but some good ones, Barkley, Jade and Carlos. I think it’s not an injury with Bailey but total lack of confidence.
We DID lose that game last season.
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Just an awful game of football which is what these fuckers wanted.
It feels flat now but given the prospect of a last minute for them, not altogether terrible.
Well done to Rat Face who reffed the game really well and to their arrogant and objectionable supporters for strutting 'round Town as if they are not some sort of shit Brentford tribute side.
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How the mighty Manure have fallen. Punching the air at a block against little old Aston Villa.
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Would have taken four points at the start of the week. Be nice if we could have just one referee who wasn't a fucking coward when it came to sending off opponents.
It might have prevented them having any attacking threat, but they didn't look like scoring anyway, and given how poor we were going forward, I'm not sure us having an extra man would have made a huge difference anyway. There are some games where it feels like having a man extra would be a big advantage - I'm not sure this was one of them.
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Be nice if we could have just one referee who wasn't a fucking coward when it came to sending off opponents.
Three games in a row!
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A yawn-fest after the Lord Mayor's Show. A missed opportunity to get some revenge for the years of home humiliation. They won't be in such a sorry state the next time they visit Villa Park.
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Interesting to see that they’re slapping themselves on the back for their “improved” performance and a point while we’re fucked off with our poor performance and two dropped points. The balance between the two clubs hasn’t half shifted.
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We really should have run those old centre halves ragged , so fair play to jonny evans the old git
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I don't think we're going to be top 4 again this season, we just haven't got the squad for it.
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Pretty poor fare. I think Emery got it wrong today, a high tempo would have destroyed them, far too pedestrian. Cash looked ropey, Bailey is nowhere near fit, Carlos did well again and the set plays were utter wank. A point gained as we were that poor. Hopefully some of the lads can start to come back to fitness and by the end of the month, we may start to see a first 11....
I do think we get sucked in too often v Man. United starting off at pedestrian pace and taking very few risks which actually allowed them to grow into the match.
We showed more attacking ambition in first hour v Bayern than today.
Maatsen needed to come on with Duran.
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A flat performance but I thought without threatening much we were the dominant side second half, I think losing Onana and JJ through injury from Wednesday weakened and as it looks like Bailey is struggling on with an injury.
I thought Barkley had a decent game.
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Funny feeling. I’m not sure I’ve experienced a game v Man U where we were the favourites.
Annoyed we didn’t win, but it’s worth remembering how far we’ve come.
Thank you Emery.
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That Evans getting a 10 minute live interview after the game before getting the POTM award was laughable. Then their manager got a minute before Sky moved onto the next match. Absolutely mental really; look how well the underdogs did.
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I don't think we're going to be top 4 again this season, we just haven't got the squad for it.
How many more players do we genuinely need for the squad? We have two top class CFs capable of scoring 15 + this season, Kamara will be back soon so that adds to our impressive cast of CMs and if Maatsen is allowed to play more that's two really good LB options.
It's only really RB and CB we're light for the level we're at.
I think more of a problem currently is we're building up the squad but seems there's only really 12-13 players that Emery really trusts to start prem games.
If we hadn't picked up injuries in the week we'd have probably more or less started the same 11 as Bayern so I do think we need to start trusting our difference makers off the bench a little more.
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Injuries piling up and some tough games ahead , juggling the ECL and EPL is a major challenge for us. More disappointed with the Ipswich result than this one if i'm honest . Hopefully Kamara Mings Buendia McGinn all close to returning
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Flat performance as expected really. We just need to find that consistency, particularly from Bailey and Rogers. We didn't look like scoring at all and the final ball in didn't help. A clean sheet though and another point.
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I don't think we're going to be top 4 again this season, we just haven't got the squad for it.
strongly disagree, really struggling with injuries at the moment and we're 5th still without really clicking yet either. much more to come from this team this season
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I don't think we're going to be top 4 again this season, we just haven't got the squad for it.
Finishing in the top 4 will be hard, although I think our squad is better. I'm not sure that the strongest team we can put out is better than last season though.
Rogers had an off day and held on to the ball too much, and overall a draw was a fair result.
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I don't think we're going to be top 4 again this season, we just haven't got the squad for it.
I think we have a very good chance. Our main rivals are Chelscum and Spuds and they have Thursday night burden and other issues with their squads if not similar issues.
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Would've taken a point before the game tbh, shame Philogene didn't stick that chance away after a lovely bit of football.
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Final ball just wasn’t there today, except the Philogene chance at the end. Happy to not lose to them, as well we shouldn’t be.
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I don't think we're going to be top 4 again this season, we just haven't got the squad for it.
How many more players do we genuinely need for the squad? We have two top class CFs capable of scoring 15 + this season, Kamara will be back soon so that adds to our impressive cast of CMs and if Maatsen is allowed to play more that's two really good LB options.
It's only really RB and CB we're light for the level we're at.
I think more of a problem currently is we're building up the squad but seems there's only really 12-13 players that Emery really trusts to start prem games.
If we hadn't picked up injuries in the week we'd have probably more or less started the same 11 as Bayern so I do think we need to start trusting our difference makers off the bench a little more.
I think if Ramsey, Kamara, McGinn, Mings and Onana are fit there’s more than 12 players he’d trust to start. I don’t think it will be long and Maatsen is closer to starting.
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That was a tough watch. Pure hindsight as I didn’t think this before the game, but maybe Football Heaven would have given us a bit more energy and guile than Big Morgan, who is one of my favourite players but was terrible today.
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I never thought scoring would be a problem for this team but here we are
that's only the second league game we haven't scored in so that's nonsense
Sorry, the point I was trying to make is that the games we haven't scored in have been the ones against "better" opposition. Is that a concern?
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Hope this pattern isn’t going to be repeated although if we finish mid table and win the CL……
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Back home after watching the game in the pub, i havnet read the threads on here yet. It was tight and even but had we nicked it by one goal that would have been fait as well. Given four or something of our starter wasnt there we still looked good enough to beat them and they where more of full strenght and up for it - that is impressive from us.
Still what a week with and extraordinary highlight midweek and I was more dissapointed with the draw at Portman road than the draw today.
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Think on reflection the best way to sum this afternoon up is to say that, while we played shite, Manchester United ARE shite.
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Last year was an unbelievable season. If there was one area that needed improving it was becoming harder to beat and turning some losses into draws: for example Forest away and Man U at home.
We are harder to beat this season. Only Arsenal have beaten us. That suggests to me we are still on for top 4 or top 5.
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Listening to radio in the on the way back Perry Groves was raging about why Rashford was spared by the ref.
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We do seem to get a lot of injuries all at once. To not have McGinn, Onana, JJ, all out together isn’t helping our balance or chemistry. Bailey is very out of form. Emery clearly doesn’t yet trust starting Ollie and Duran together and I’m not convinced that works anyway. And then today to also lose Konsa. Well it’s just a a bit shit on the luck front.
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A yawn-fest after the Lord Mayor's Show. A missed opportunity to get some revenge for the years of home humiliation. They won't be in such a sorry state the next time they visit Villa Park.
What makes you say that? They've spent over a decade now shooting themselves in the foot
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Tired performance with injuries mounting up yet we were still the better side. That’s how far we’ve come as a club that they sat behind the ball and time wasted.
The ref bottled the red card and at the end I’d say the time added on was way short of what it should’ve been.
Defensively much better now and when we get everyone fit we’ll be up there challenging again.
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If we get 4 or 5 fit in time for Bologna we should be good for a real go at the CL and league. Hope Konsa is OK. Barkley and Youri were fine today, those in front of them were pretty poor tbh. Rogers a rough diamond but will come good inside 12 months. All felt a bit makeshift today, we need a rest clearly. UTD won't be a CAT A game for long on that showing
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First 85 minutes were Boldmere St Michaels levels.
That Bailey volley first half. :o
Only thing that saved us is Yanited were somehow worse.
Bad results against these are almost priced into the season. Just glad to get it out the way.
On the plus side: In the next few weeks we’ll have far more options from the bench.
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We always keep saying that and then we pick up more injuries fcuking infuriating.
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I would have taken that result all day before kick off.
A few poor individual performances but I can forgive them for that after Wednesday.
This international break is a god-send, we’ll get players back from injury and we will kick on when we return. From now on in we’re gonna properly kick in, I’ve just got this gut feeling it is all going to start clicking into place. Good times are a coming.
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At halftime there where Smeichel and the former Arse Swede comenting on the game I where watching. They did the whole thing just talking about Man U and not a word mentioned about the Villa? Whats that about then, there wasnt Manu channel I was watching either - but one supposed to be neutral I think..
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I would have taken that result all day before kick off.
A few poor individual performances but I can forgive them for that after Wednesday.
This international break is a god-send, we’ll get players back from injury and we will kick on when we return. From now on in we’re gonna properly kick in, I’ve just got this gut feeling it is all going to start clicking into place. Good times are a coming.
We are starting up again against Fulham away - that will be a though one, they nearly did held City at their place yesterday and have been showing some good form before that.
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Some context on this. We have the same record in our last five games as Man City and Arsenal.
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Cash, Digne and Watkins were all particularly shite.
I thought Digne and Torres were our best players on the day
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I don't think we're going to be top 4 again this season, we just haven't got the squad for it.
strongly disagree, really struggling with injuries at the moment and we're 5th still without really clicking yet either. much more to come from this team this season
I’m unsure, but flipside is we’ve had very kind fixtures to date. Either way if we don’t start playing better we won’t get top 4.
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Clean sheet but man that feels like a loss to me. As usual put in a lame performance against utd.
Utd are so bad and yet we struggled
Rogers was so awful today. Wont have done himself any favours for England callup with that today.
Motm for me was carlos. Solid
Why does it feel like a loss? we didn't play well absolutely, but it was just one of those days and we didn't lose. can't win every match
It feels like a loss because that utd team is so bad and they were fucking awful. Honestly i think had we played 1/4 as good as against bayern we would have won that
Dropping two points at home is poor and a point is of course better than losing. But man such a deflating result
If we have aspirations of CL again we need to be winning these games. It seems utterly bizarre that we loaned out enzo and illing jr as both would have been handing today. Instead we had to name swinkels and young on the bench who were never hoing to get on pitch.
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From where I sit, I thought Rogers had scored with that first half effort into the side netting.
It does feel a bit like 4 points dropped in the last 2 games.
We need the break more than anyone else and hopefully Konsa is just injured enough to withdraw from the England squad.
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Some context on this. We have the same record in our last five games as Man City and Arsenal.
Arsenal have had us away, Tottenham away, and Man City away, for more context.
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Some context on this. We have the same record in our last five games as Man City and Arsenal.
But lets be honest we have had a kind set of fixtures. The last two results have been poor in the league
Unai i think ahould have rotated more today. Id have played maatsen instead of digne and giving buendia some minutes
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Last year was an unbelievable season. If there was one area that needed improving it was becoming harder to beat and turning some losses into draws: for example Forest away and Man U at home.
We are harder to beat this season. Only Arsenal have beaten us. That suggests to me we are still on for top 4 or top 5.
Arsenal are the only top side we've played though in the Prem.
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Buendia should of come on for Rogers who was ghastly today
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Buendia should of come on for Rogers who was ghastly today
What game were you watching?
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A very poor game. Should have beaten them but neither team looked liked scoring. 0-0 was probably a fair result.
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Worst match I’ve seen for some while. Much sterner tests to come after our kind run of fixtures. Apart from Arsenal, we’ve played no one of note really in the league. At the end of the season I’d be amazed but, pleasantly surprised if we are anywhere near top 4.
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Unai has only had one other 0-0 in the league with us. He's been here 18 days short of two years.
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I was pessimistic pre season but now we've started playing I'm feeling really good that we haven't dropped off from last season. Surprised to hear negativity, even after today's drab showing.
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We are competing for 4th. And in a year we are in the CL that’s going to be tough. But our challenge across the rest of the season is to be better than Chelsea, Spurs, Newcastle realistically.
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Buendia should of come on for Rogers who was ghastly today
What game were you watching?
I actually agree with Tim, I thought Rogers was really poor relatively. Some great runs, but poor decision making and poor final touches. However, I don’t agree that Beundia should of started, too soon for him.
The reality is, ignoring long term absences like Mings and Kamara, we’re still down McGinn, Ramsey and Onana today, plus losing Konsa and a clearly half fit/three quarters fit Bailey. Even Just McGinn and Ramsey would of made a massive difference today.
Frustrating performance and result, but no matter who we’ve played, 7 league games and one defeat, plus 2 champions league wins and a carabao cup win. Its really not a bad start to the season at all.
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We are competing for 4th. And in a year we are in the CL that’s going to be tough. But our challenge across the rest of the season is to be better than Chelsea, Spurs, Newcastle realistically.
Exactly - this. Or at least qualifying for the UCL - which might include 5th. It will be difficult as you say.
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So far at least there is nothing overly special about Newcastle or Spurs. Chelsea have European competition also and they have a good squad. But a lot of players to keep happy that cost a lot of money. I still trust Emery over Howe, Ange and Maresca.
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I like the BBC headline:
Manchester United earn battling draw at Aston Villa.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/cdjerlny927t
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Frustrating to drop 4 points to bottom half teams.
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We are competing for 4th. And in a year we are in the CL that’s going to be tough. But our challenge across the rest of the season is to be better than Chelsea, Spurs, Newcastle realistically.
Yep, the top three are already pulling clear. I said at the start of the season we were in a mini-league with Chelsea, Spurs, Newcastle and Man Ure for a battle for 4th. From what I’ve seen so far I reckon 5th is the worst we’ll finish.
Oh, and I think we’ll go deep in the Champions League.
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With that level of battling performance - even if they are woefully short of quality - plucky Manchester United may just stay up.
It’ll take some effort. And they’ll need to carry their own plank of a referee from game to game like they did today.
But they might just do it.
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Before we slash our wrists, let’s look at some of these beauties from last season:
“I feel like the Villa that starts the 2024/25 season will be unrecognisable in the way that a recently relegated team is because it's had to flog all of its stars, the difference being it'll be because we probably won't be able to offer Champions League football.
“We have totally fucked it now.
We are ten matches from the end of the season and will be playing 30% of those matches without our captain, who plays in a part of the field where we are already decimated.
Not only that, we are playing badly and have been for ages now, just putting in the odd good 45 minutes here and there. Even when we manage a good half we then keep on having an absolute stinker of a second.
We are absolutely fuxked with injuries and have a difficult run in. The next three matches are all tricky, and I can honestly see us losing them all.
I think we will finish sixth, which will be fucking devastating after the expectation of the first two thirds of the season.
Genuinely woke up this morning feeling exactly like I did after that Stoke match, that is how bad this is. Gifting three points to our closest rivals on our own ground and throwing in an eight GD swing.
Fucking hell, I hate football.”
“Yesterday was pretty fucking terrible, and it's gut wrenching to look at the table and see where Spurs are after tonight.
Yeah yeah yeah lots of football to come, but turn the tables around and if we were ahead of them with a game in hand, we'd be cock-a-hoop.
We've absolutely blown it. We're playing poorly, too, at a time when Spurs are starting to fire more consistently.
Gutting.”
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Buendia should of come on for Rogers who was ghastly today
What game were you watching?
Tbf rogers was really bad today jon
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Oh Perce, stop it ;D
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That Evans getting a 10 minute live interview after the game before getting the POTM award was laughable. Then their manager got a minute before Sky moved onto the next match. Absolutely mental really; look how well the underdogs did.
A pensioner got man of the match, it's a story. What could they have said about us?
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Felt pre-match that the loss of McGinn, Ramsey and Onana in our midfield would be the undoing of us today and post match I’m not going to argue with myself.
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I hope they are still out on the pitch practicing crossing.
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We’ve lost a bit of our spark going forward of late. We just aren’t delivering the amount of slick attacking moves we were. Hopefully injury returns and a bit of a reset will help.
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I thought Rogers 1st half was our best threat going forward. Carries the ball better than Ollie and is very physical, his decision making needs to improve though. Bailey not fit but better than Wednesday. Torres was not troubled and looked class. We are not easily beaten these days even on an off day.
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Red Cafe on form tonight
"Congrats to Armed Forces around the world. They've found 90 minutes worth of new torture footage"
"One of the worst games I've ever seen. Pure garbage."
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We had spells today where we gave the ball away so much. We lacked a bit of composure in the final third.
Still, I've seen them horrible bastards win games like that against us.
So a win and a draw against Bayern and Man Utd isn't at all too bad.
Hope Konsa is pulled from the England squad
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Ive still got some reservations that we arr better than last season. But difficult to nake a fair assessment as we havent been able to field our strongest team yet
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This thread. Lol.
Tielemans the bellwether, some standard sublime stuff, but a surprisingly high volume of giving the ball away, far more than he has all season. Barkley the same, beat a man, drop the should, ponder a touch, give it away.
McGinn, JJ and Onana being out, when we needed to freshen the middle up to quicken events, we couldn't. Same with Morgan, who just couldn't get his final ball going.
Defensively sound, that being said Man United offer next to nothing going forwards. Zirkzee looked a pub player, another £50m well spent. Garnacho is a hateful little ******. Dropped over to win the free kick for Roland to hit the bar and that's about all they did invetween a Rashford shot in the first half. He should have walked. Liked Morsey, like Upamecano. One day the dirty twats we play will see red.
2 points dropped, we let a poor sode off the hook, but emotionally and physically drained from Wednesday dusting one of the best sides in the world.
Averaging 2 points a game, which is what we need to, sitting 5th, level with Chelsea in 4th and top 8 in the Champions League. Emery is a genius.
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Saw an interview with him and this is exactly what Emery is asking him to do. But I agree, it’s not been to the benefit of his game yet.
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A good point for plucky little Man Utd who came to frustrate the Villa and hope for something on the break.
Rogers needs to learn when to pass i.e. before he tries to beat the 4th, 5th and 6th defenders.
Roger’s has this habit of trying to take an extra man on this season and it means he is not as good as the opposition are working him out.
Saw an interview with him and this is exactly what Emery is asking him to do. But I agree, it’s not been to the benefit of his game yet.
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Before we slash our wrists, let’s look at some of these beauties from last season:
“I feel like the Villa that starts the 2024/25 season will be unrecognisable in the way that a recently relegated team is because it's had to flog all of its stars, the difference being it'll be because we probably won't be able to offer Champions League football.
“We have totally fucked it now.
We are ten matches from the end of the season and will be playing 30% of those matches without our captain, who plays in a part of the field where we are already decimated.
Not only that, we are playing badly and have been for ages now, just putting in the odd good 45 minutes here and there. Even when we manage a good half we then keep on having an absolute stinker of a second.
We are absolutely fuxked with injuries and have a difficult run in. The next three matches are all tricky, and I can honestly see us losing them all.
I think we will finish sixth, which will be fucking devastating after the expectation of the first two thirds of the season.
Genuinely woke up this morning feeling exactly like I did after that Stoke match, that is how bad this is. Gifting three points to our closest rivals on our own ground and throwing in an eight GD swing.
Fucking hell, I hate football.”
“Yesterday was pretty fucking terrible, and it's gut wrenching to look at the table and see where Spurs are after tonight.
Yeah yeah yeah lots of football to come, but turn the tables around and if we were ahead of them with a game in hand, we'd be cock-a-hoop.
We've absolutely blown it. We're playing poorly, too, at a time when Spurs are starting to fire more consistently.
Gutting.”
Is that all from one person?
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https://www.skysports.com/football/aston-villa-vs-man-utd/report/505868
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Before we slash our wrists, let’s look at some of these beauties from last season:
“I feel like the Villa that starts the 2024/25 season will be unrecognisable in the way that a recently relegated team is because it's had to flog all of its stars, the difference being it'll be because we probably won't be able to offer Champions League football.
“We have totally fucked it now.
We are ten matches from the end of the season and will be playing 30% of those matches without our captain, who plays in a part of the field where we are already decimated.
Not only that, we are playing badly and have been for ages now, just putting in the odd good 45 minutes here and there. Even when we manage a good half we then keep on having an absolute stinker of a second.
We are absolutely fuxked with injuries and have a difficult run in. The next three matches are all tricky, and I can honestly see us losing them all.
I think we will finish sixth, which will be fucking devastating after the expectation of the first two thirds of the season.
Genuinely woke up this morning feeling exactly like I did after that Stoke match, that is how bad this is. Gifting three points to our closest rivals on our own ground and throwing in an eight GD swing.
Fucking hell, I hate football.”
“Yesterday was pretty fucking terrible, and it's gut wrenching to look at the table and see where Spurs are after tonight.
Yeah yeah yeah lots of football to come, but turn the tables around and if we were ahead of them with a game in hand, we'd be cock-a-hoop.
We've absolutely blown it. We're playing poorly, too, at a time when Spurs are starting to fire more consistently.
Gutting.”
Is that all from one person?
No. I just saved them as a reminder of the hysterical over-reaction that occurs sometimes. Didn’t save the authors’ names.
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That was a tough watch. Pure hindsight as I didn’t think this before the game, but maybe Football Heaven would have given us a bit more energy and guile than Big Morgan, who is one of my favourite players but was terrible today.
Maybe. I do think we need to use the squad more so when changes happen they’re not seen as a step down and also to avoid complacency between the chosen XI.
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We’ll have 5 first team players back by the fulham game. That will be a big boost and allow for more rotation.
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We’ll have 5 first team players back by the fulham game. That will be a big boost and allow for more rotation.
Do we know that? I hope so
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Kamara
Mings
McGinn?
JJ?
Onana?
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I’m guessing it’s hopeful then? It would be great if that is the case, I think the lack of midfield options probably prevented us taking the extra step to win today.
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Hopefully Konsa isn't badly injured. It was good to have Cash back today and an orthodox RB on the field , unfortunately with Bailey misfiring it never really took off down that wing .
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Mings and Kamara won’t be back for Fulham.
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Might be back in the squad, but they definitely won't be starting. Do we have word on the others? 7 injuries in 10 games haha crikey.
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Might be back in the squad, but they definitely won't be starting. Do we have word on the others? 7 injuries in 10 games haha crikey.
Nowhere near. Wasn't this weekend their first appearance in youth team matches?
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Some context on this. We have the same record in our last five games as Man City and Arsenal.
Arsenal have had us away, Tottenham away, and Man City away, for more context.
For even more context we have played Bayern Munich and Manchester United in the last four days and not conceded a goal despite having five of our best players out.
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Some context on this. We have the same record in our last five games as Man City and Arsenal.
Arsenal have had us away, Tottenham away, and Man City away, for more context.
For evwn more context we have played Bayern Munich and Manchester United in the last four days and not conceded a goal despite having five of our best players out.
👏👏👏
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Some context on this. We have the same record in our last five games as Man City and Arsenal.
Arsenal have had us away, Tottenham away, and Man City away, for more context.
For even more context we have played Bayern Munich and Manchester United in the last four days and not conceded a goal despite having five of our best players out.
Indeedio. We're a really fucking good side, not that you'd know it from the state of this thread where we lost 0-0.
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Red Cafe on form tonight
"Congrats to Armed Forces around the world. They've found 90 minutes worth of new torture footage"
"One of the worst games I've ever seen. Pure garbage."
What's your point?
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Bit over the top Ads. I’m not sure anyone sensible is saying the sky is falling in, but the performances in the last two league games haven’t been great. Clearly the result midweek was fantastic, but was a different sort of game. We’ve looked a bit ponderous in the last two league games, hopefully it’s just our options being limited but we will need to be better than we’ve shown in those games.
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If we continue as we are, we'll finish with 70+ points. If 4 ither teams better that, then fair play.
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If we continue as we are, we'll finish with 70+ points. If 4 ither teams better that, then fair play.
Yep. Shit ain't it?
So it seems. We're OK to be off the boil, especially given the week we've had and where we sit with points tallies. Unai wants more, so do we all, but he's happy. I'm happy.
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Red Cafe on form tonight
"Congrats to Armed Forces around the world. They've found 90 minutes worth of new torture footage"
"One of the worst games I've ever seen. Pure garbage."
What's your point?
Expecting Manchester United to rule the world, not realising they are shit
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I’m not sure anyone is particularly disgruntled with how the season is going though are they? This is really about the game today.
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Season so far: lovely stuff.
Today's game: not particularly impressive.
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Today's point would look a lot rosier if we hadn't dropped 2 silly points last weekend . Given the heroics of Wednesday today was understandably tired , last Sunday is the issue that was a very poor complacent performance which put us on the back foot somewhat. That said, the season is young, we have a manager who will sort it and players coming back . Relax .
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Cash, Digne and Watkins were all particularly shite.
Digne played well.Ollie better 2nd half was totally isolated 1st half, no service whatsoever
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Today's point would look a lot rosier if we hadn't dropped 2 silly points last weekend . Given the heroics of Wednesday today was understandably tired , last Sunday is the issue that was a very poor complacent performance which put us on the back foot somewhat. That said, the season is young, we have a manager who will sort it and players coming back . Relax .
Totally agree with this. We were 5 first team squad players light today and lost another less than a quarter into the match. I’m hoping everyone is fit after the break or soon after, then with a full depth squad we can assess how far we can go this season.
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The last 2 league games indicate we don’t have quite enough to challenge the top 3 and cope with injuries and the demands of playing every 3 days.
Watkins had one of his could not hit a cows arse with a banjo days, he had enough chances to win the game today.
This feels like a transitional season where we learn to cope with the demands of multiple games, our younger players get nearer their potential and we fill in the gaps in the squad.
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At least we didn't lose I'll take a point.
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Jesus, that was an awful game of footie.
Last 20, they were practically begging us to put them out of their misery.
One to put down to experience - and at least we didn’t lose.
Main thing right now (when our form is indifferent) is to stay in the hunt, bring back the injured and avoid further casualties.
UTV
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The last 2 league games indicate we don’t have quite enough to challenge the top 3 and cope with injuries and the demands of playing every 3 days.
Watkins had one of his could not hit a cows arse with a banjo days, he had enough chances to win the game today.
This feels like a transitional season where we learn to cope with the demands of multiple games, our younger players get nearer their potential and we fill in the gaps in the squad.
I can't recall Ollie having any chances other than the speculative shot he took on which barely registered as one.
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Season so far: lovely stuff.
Today's game: not particularly impressive.
I think that just about sums it up. Drab 0-0, clean sheet, lacked a final ball, take the point, move on.
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Most positive thing I can say about today is we've had worse post Europe hangovers.
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We have a very good squad but when you get five or six injuries it's going to weaken any side.
Right to the end I thought they would sneak a goal as they often do so relieved at the final whistle. Bailey for me has become a big problem, not sure what it is but we all know he is capable of so much more, without his attacking input we become very narrow, we need pace down both wings.
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There were a few frustrating moments; a couple of poor decisions by Rogers, a snatched effort from Philogene, referee not doing his job, and Konsa's injury.
It wasn't a spectacle but after Wednesday I'm.not sure much would have been.
It's another draw, which means we haven't lost, and that really is key. We look like a solid, hard to beat team.
I just wish we could grind these fuckers into the dirt again.
Important break now, and hopefully we will have a few back soon. Mings, Kamara, Buendia, Konsa, Cash, Bailey, Onana, Ramsey will all hopefully not be long now. I know a couple of them have played but they don't seem fully fit to me.
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Having just watched us on MOTD it seemed to be attack after attack by Villa, and a few shots in there, as well. The finishing wasn’t there, today and the commentator noted Villa looking a bit tired after the brilliant performance midweek. Shame about the injuries and I hope Konsa and Bailey bounce back with everyone else.
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Thought Bailey was just coming into the game before he was subbed. Offering balance and an outlet and his confidence seemed to increase.
Sometimes Unai seems determined to make subs at certain times.
In hindsight Duran for Watkins might have been the better sub.
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I think our growing reputation means a lot of teams’ first priority is to stop us playing rather than play themselves.
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I think our growing reputation means a lot of teams’ first priority is to stop us playing rather than play themselves.
I think you're right, but I'd also add that we seem, at times, to do the same thing to ourselves. Restrained control rather than going for it and ending up in the end to end stuff, unless we are completely confident we'll win.
Today was a good example of where that had gone wrong before and us not taking the risk.
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Yep, for example when Bologna rock up next few weeks they'll likely park a huge pasta type bus and say come on then, relying on counters and a tight defence . The Bayern win puts us on the European map again .
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This is my least favourite fixture of the season and I feared a flat performance after Bayern. I think Wednesday must have taken a lot out of the players and I think that seemed to be the case with the fans too as I thought the atmosphere was generally flat.
We never really exerted any pressure and I think their keeper only made one real save. A draw was a fair result as we never took advantage of some decent positions to cross, often failing to beat the first defender. Disappointing that Rashford didn’t get a second yellow but that would have simple made them less inclined to attack and I think it was one of those games where we wouldn’t have scored even if they had half their team sent off.
Farcical delay with the ref’s equipment but that was outdone by the VAR announcement popping up on screen after 34 minutes for a possible handball in the 23rd minute. Ludicrous
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Some context on this. We have the same record in our last five games as Man City and Arsenal.
Arsenal have had us away, Tottenham away, and Man City away, for more context.
For even more context we have played Bayern Munich and Manchester United in the last four days and not conceded a goal despite having five of our best players out.
I didn't think we hadn't done well to get clean sheets with our injuries, just that having the same record as those teams does belie the fact that their fixtures, particularly Arsenal's, has been more difficult than ours.
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Not sure that was worth the five and a half train trek back to the south coast tonight - well it wasn't but good to catch-up with Olof's Beard and I dug the museum bit in the Villa store and the murals around the ground I hadn't seen yet.
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A poor game (understandably, given the absentees), enlivened by the good performances of Martinez, Torres, Carlos and Tielemans. I thought Philogene again looked secure and reliable even if he didn't sparkle. Watkins again was pretty reliable without getting the chances that we'd like him to get.
Digne, Barkley and Rogers were good in parts; disappointing in others. As others have said, Rogers needs to get his head up sometimes and find the quicker pass. I was pretty disappointed with Cash and Bailey: the former gives too many fouls away and doesn't get down the line enough; the latter seems very reluctant to beat his man, use his vaunted pace and find space.
It's regretful that we didn't make more of the porous central defence presented to us by the opposition - they were ripe to be absolutely punished. I think with McGinn and Ramsey, we'd have done so.
Another game where the opposition earn 5 or more yellow cards to our 1: rotational fouling seems to be a thing against us.
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I’m not sure anyone is particularly disgruntled with how the season is going though are they? This is really about the game today.
Exactly paul. People are expressing their disappointment that we failed to beat a pretty hopeless united team at home. If we put in a good performance and were frustrated at 0-0 i think most would be ok with that. It was just a really poor performance. I think onana made one save all game.
Really poor game overall from both sides
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Difficult to assess our season so far in the league, we're 5th, which is very good, but 6 out 7 of our matches have been against teams in the bottom half and none of our performances I would put in the outstanding bracket, injuries have played a factor though. We're be able assess the season much better by 1 December by which time we would have played Spurs, Liverpool and Chelsea and another 3 CL matches.
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Away from the game itself, got in straight away in the Upper Holte yesterday. Not sure what it was like elsewhere.
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No problem getting into the ground yesterday - lower Holte was open 1 hour 45 minutes before the kick off
The only game for me where there was a problem was the Arsenal game.
Poor game played by 2 teams who did not seem to have the ability to create a decent chance.
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No one mentioning the blatant dive by Garnacho which earned the free kick that led to Roland hitting the bar. If that had gone in and we had lost it would of been the epitome of crap ways to lose to them. Having his sending off last week overturned in a season where they are going to great lengths to stick with the refs original call was bad enough in the first place. For him to score the winner in front of the Holte from a free kick won by cheating would of been excruciating to witness so from that perspective I'll happily take the draw and move on.
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Going into the second international break sitting joint 4th with Chelsea, one loss in 10 in all comps, averaging 2 PPG in the league, with a break to get players back. And one all-time classic match/goal/performance thrown in there too.
A very good start to the season overall. I agree with Tim's point from further up that looking back on the last 6-7 games, the only one that I feel 'disappointed' by is the way we played after going 2-1 up at Ipswich, resulting in a few lost points there. I'll allow them a poor 45 minutes though in the grand scheme of things. I think this game was a case of tiredness from Wednesday - especially as we had a lot less of the ball than we usually do.
So given we weren't really at our usual level, it was good not to lose, keep a clean sheet, and keep the points tally ticking over. We're in a very good position I think to be aiming for last season's finish.
I really don't like doing the thing that I've seen some people doing in comparing like-for-like each result with the corresponding fixtures last season, e.g. "how far up/down are we at X point last season". Teams will go in and out of form, fixture runs and injuries etc. make each year totally unique, so it's really just about staying in the mix of it past Christmas.
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The last 2 league games indicate we don’t have quite enough to challenge the top 3 and cope with injuries and the demands of playing every 3 days.
Watkins had one of his could not hit a cows arse with a banjo days, he had enough chances to win the game today.
This feels like a transitional season where we learn to cope with the demands of multiple games, our younger players get nearer their potential and we fill in the gaps in the squad.
I can't recall Ollie having any chances other than the speculative shot he took on which barely registered as one.
Neither can I. Very harsh calling out one player when most of the team were off their game.
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As with every season, just glad to get that one out of the way.
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Yep, for example when Bologna rock up next few weeks they'll likely park a huge pasta type bus and say come on then, relying on counters and a tight defence .
A massive, goalmouth sized frozen lasagne.
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As annoying as it is to drop two points against that lame utd side we at least didnt lose like last season. We will save our spankinv of them until final game of season
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Hate playing this lot..... Only plus point is that 'we didn't lose'.
Really don't understand why we kept feeding it out to the wings for a cross, when for most of the game (first half especially) we had no height in there against two big lumps. We should have focussed on playing through the middle imo.
Good to see Cash back, but then Konsa goes off injured... Hopefully, nothing serious and he's patched up over the break. As for Cash, it adds much needed balance back into the team, but we desperately need a mirrored version of Digne/Maatsen on the right. It beggars belief that Cash used to be a winger for Forest - His forward play and crossing especially is abysmal.
Was surprised to see Bailey in the team. Looked to be carrying an injury against Bayern, and the performance yesterday leads me to believe he's not recovered. Didn't once try and beat his man.
Shout out to the two 'forgotten men' - Tielemans and Barkley. Thought the two of them played really well yesterday.
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Bologna will try to do to us what we did to Man City or Arsenal last year I think, midblock etc.
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Eh, two ugly draws in a row, it happens.
Is it "eh" or "er"? I always thought it was the latter. "Eh" is an interrogative, eh?
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I don't think we're going to be top 4 again this season, we just haven't got the squad for it.
Yeah but we didn't last year either!
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Eh, two ugly draws in a row, it happens.
Is it "eh" or "er"? I always thought it was the latter. "Eh" is an interrogative, eh?
It's more 'eh' to rhyme with 'meh', and to mean the same too.
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Agree re: Bailey he offered no threat whatsoever yesterday (and hasn't really fired yet this season generally) so assume he is carrying a knock of some sort.
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I don't think we're going to be top 4 again this season, we just haven't got the squad for it.
Yeah but we didn't last year either!
Though we've lost two very influential members of that squad in Dougie and Diaby, we've added Onana, Maatsen, Barkley and Philogene who are ALL playing important parts in the first team, plus we have the return of Buendia and Mings who didn't play a part at all last season, and Kamara and Ramsey whose seasons were curtailed by injuries. Plus Duran who appears to have come of age. I think in sheer numbers and strength in depth, it's definitely better. Is the first 11 better than last season? I'm not sure. It's close.
I think our squad is definitely better this season than last. That said, I think last season, our squad punched WAY above their weight and crawled over the line in the end. This year I think it's good enough and big enough to compete on all fronts for the entire season - whether it's good enough to hold off teams like Chelsea, Newcastle, and Tottenham to stay in the top 4 again, I don't know.
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think the opposition for 4th is stronger, I am not convinced our first team is. Getting Kamara and Mings back to their previous levels would make a difference though.
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Cash, Digne and Watkins were all particularly shite.
I thought Digne and Torres were our best players on the day
Digne should have been taken off set-piece duties the third time his corner/free-kick went straight to their goalie or didn't clear the first man. Come on, is he really all we have now that Dougie's fucked off?
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But I'd argue it's not our first team that needs to be stronger. It's the depth of our squad which caused the biggest headaches last season and the reason we scraped home for 4th and lost a semi-final against a team we should have beaten.
We are already down 7 players that could be our first 11 - we'll be lucky to have fewer than 3 "first teamers" not available for selection for any game. The squad will be the difference between finishing 8th or 4th.
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Our set pieces were kin awful.
Every corner and free kick wasted.
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Clean sheet but man that feels like a loss to me. As usual put in a lame performance against utd.
Utd are so bad and yet we struggled
Rogers was so awful today. Wont have done himself any favours for England callup with that today.
Motm for me was carlos. Solid
Why does it feel like a loss? we didn't play well absolutely, but it was just one of those days and we didn't lose. can't win every match
It feels like a loss because that utd team is so bad and they were fucking awful. Honestly i think had we played 1/4 as good as against bayern we would have won that
Dropping two points at home is poor and a point is of course better than losing. But man such a deflating result
If we have aspirations of CL again we need to be winning these games. It seems utterly bizarre that we loaned out enzo and illing jr as both would have been handing today. Instead we had to name swinkels and young on the bench who were never hoing to get on pitch.
You keep making this point - but Enzo and Illing are barely getting more time at their loan clubs than they would for us. They're at the end of the pecking order and when our four injured midfielders return, they'd struggle to get bench time.
Illing being a winger might have been an option for a crocked Bailey/nascent Philogene but Enzo...c'mon, he's an investment punt, we'll sell him on at a premium or at best he might get a sniff if Kamara leaves one summer.
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Before we slash our wrists, let’s look at some of these beauties from last season:
“I feel like the Villa that starts the 2024/25 season will be unrecognisable in the way that a recently relegated team is because it's had to flog all of its stars, the difference being it'll be because we probably won't be able to offer Champions League football.
“We have totally fucked it now.
We are ten matches from the end of the season and will be playing 30% of those matches without our captain, who plays in a part of the field where we are already decimated.
Not only that, we are playing badly and have been for ages now, just putting in the odd good 45 minutes here and there. Even when we manage a good half we then keep on having an absolute stinker of a second.
We are absolutely fuxked with injuries and have a difficult run in. The next three matches are all tricky, and I can honestly see us losing them all.
I think we will finish sixth, which will be fucking devastating after the expectation of the first two thirds of the season.
Genuinely woke up this morning feeling exactly like I did after that Stoke match, that is how bad this is. Gifting three points to our closest rivals on our own ground and throwing in an eight GD swing.
Fucking hell, I hate football.”
“Yesterday was pretty fucking terrible, and it's gut wrenching to look at the table and see where Spurs are after tonight.
Yeah yeah yeah lots of football to come, but turn the tables around and if we were ahead of them with a game in hand, we'd be cock-a-hoop.
We've absolutely blown it. We're playing poorly, too, at a time when Spurs are starting to fire more consistently.
Gutting.”
Is that all from one person?
No. I just saved them as a reminder of the hysterical over-reaction that occurs sometimes. Didn’t save the authors’ names.
Not Paul Winch, by any chance? Only messin' Paul ;)
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As I am sure others have said? After our appalling record against this lot, it says something that we are disappointed with a draw.
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I think it's a sign of how we've progressed that after giving it our all Wednesday in a huge game emotionally and physically, with injuries, we've played an early kick off Sunday and not got beaten. Yesterday screamed of a game that we'd normally lose in a sloppy, slow tempo match up.
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I think we paid them a bit too much respect in the opening twenty minutes. Understandable maybe after our recent and historic record against them. I think we were aiming to not be overwhelmed by an early onslaught which never came/they weren’t capable of.
There was definitely some sort of hangover from the Bayern game and perhaps that will be a difficult thing to juggle after all. The season up to now though has been great, despite it feeling like we are capable of playing a lot better individually and collectively.
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The game didn't go particularly well but they clearly came wanting a cleansheet and we clearly wanted the same which led a bit of non-event game where both teams had half chances but no one created much.
Not great but it's a better result that we got against them last year.
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Obviously C and B glasses on with barely any Manure chances, but does show our efforts well.
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If you just watched the highlights we had by far the better chances. They hit the bar with their best one so you could say them came closest. But we are better than them and this week has taken a lot out of the side. Still 5th place, only one defeat all season, 2 clean sheets in a row and loads of the season to go. We are in a good spot to attack that 4th spot.
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I don't think we're going to be top 4 again this season, we just haven't got the squad for it.
Yeah but we didn't last year either!
Well we must have as we achieved it! 😉
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I don't think we're going to be top 4 again this season, we just haven't got the squad for it.
Yeah but we didn't last year either!
Well we must have as we achieved it! 😉
Despite the thoughts of some people
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A team that happily acquires 4 yellow cards and should have had a fifth and a sending off when playing against our injury depleted first eleven says it all. We are knocking on the top four door while they rightly hover over the trap door. Onwards and upwards!!
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Has anyone been brave enough to watch the game back again
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Very Boring game
United dragged us down to their level but was a fair result as no one play well enough to win
I’m the biggest pessimist when we play Man United going off last 30 years of history so I’m not too unhappy with the point
No one was outstanding so difficult to pick a man of the match maybe Barkley or Pau
When you see Garnacho at close quarters you realise how big a cheat he is going down at the slightest touch, reminded me of Ronaldo in his first season at United, I really don’t like him arrogant little twat
I know Grealish did it but he was actually fouled a lot of the time because he was unplayable
The back four played well, including Carlos who didn’t make any clangers for the second game running
Midfield were incohesive I thought and gave the ball away far too much. We really do miss McGinns industry and drive I don’t care what anyone says
My biggest moan of the match was why play 2 of best two strikers in Europe together when it looked like we were going for it then don’t give them any chances, play the ball into them at every opportunity at least give them a chance to score They’re pretty good at it.
We’ve lost one game all season in all competitions which is fantastic, yet I don’t think we’ve hit top form yet I think there’s a lot more to come and we can play for a better than we have so far
Brilliant news about Jhon Duran I honestly didn’t expect that
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A team that happily acquires 4 yellow cards and should have had a fifth and a sending off when playing against our injury depleted first eleven says it all. We are knocking on the top four door while they rightly hover over the trap door. Onwards and upwards!!
They had 5 yellows.
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We have Onana, Kamara, Mings, Konsa, Ramsey and Mcginn all to add to that team. It's pretty exciting.
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Has anyone been brave enough to watch the game back again
Not sure why on earth you would!
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Has anyone been brave enough to watch the game back again
Not sure why on earth you would!
Surely only Unai would bother
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That was the first time I’d seen, on the big screen, a reason for not giving a decision after a VAR check, has that happened previously and I’ve missed it?
It was after they were claiming a penalty for a handball after their attacker headed it at point blank range at an arm in around the 20th minute, the reason came up on the screen about 10 minutes later.
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Disappointment at only drawing with Manchester United and thus not beating two fellow former European champions in the space of six days tells quite the story about both teams at Villa Park.
A first clean sheet of the season should be cherished, while the international break will hopefully afford enough time to overcome the growing injury problems.
But one of the most impressive aspects of this Unai Emery transformation has been in how they have adjusted to the challenge of competing on multiple fronts. In the 16 Premier League games which have followed European fixtures during the Spaniard’s reign, Villa have won half and been beaten only three times. Martin O’Neill would have been smashing at least one of those plates by now.
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That was the first time I’d seen, on the big screen, a reason for not giving a decision after a VAR check, has that happened previously and I’ve missed it?
It was after they were claiming a penalty for a handball after their attacker headed it at point blank range at an arm in around the 20th minute, the reason came up on the screen about 10 minutes later.
That was Harry the slab, squealing at the ref for a pen. I was amazed they didn't give it in some way as it's them and the cheating nature of their DNA
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Emery sent us out to draw to keep Ten Haag in a job and thereby rule them out as a competitor for top four.
The man’s a genius.
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Emery sent us out to draw to keep Ten Haag in a job and thereby rule them out as a competitor for top four.
The man’s a genius.
Brilliant 👏🏻
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Emery sent us out to draw to keep Ten Haag in a job and thereby rule them out as a competitor for top four.
The man’s a genius.
Lol good theory there percy
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Did anyone spot any of their fans in the Villa sections of the ground? There seemed to be one towards the front of L2, he was wearing a red shirt so fairly easy to spot, but no-one seemed to do very much about it before the game but he seemed to have covered it at some point in the first half because I couldn't pick him out later on. It just seems a bit strange the stewards weren't moving him.
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As long as he wasn't causing any trouble, which he wasn't, then that stuff doesn't bother me at all.
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Did anyone spot any of their fans in the Villa sections of the ground? There seemed to be one towards the front of L2, he was wearing a red shirt so fairly easy to spot, but no-one seemed to do very much about it before the game but he seemed to have covered it at some point in the first half because I couldn't pick him out later on. It just seems a bit strange the stewards weren't moving him.
There were quite a few in the Witton Lane, no loud mouths though so no problem.
with the GA+ you are going to see lots more away fans in home stands.
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It used to be the norm for lots of away fans in seats. We used to take over Highfield Road and even St Andrews you see lots of Villa fans around the ground in 70s footage. Can remember lots of Wolves for the FA Cup in 83 and Everton for League Cup semi in 84.
And nobody seemed bothered about it!
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isn't it only home fans allowed in home section of Villa Park and no I don't want away fans in the home ends, any away fans should be immediately removed
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Who cares? I'm sure we're all civil enough to cope with the odd person not supporting the home team. I've been to the odd Villa away game in the home sections and I just kept my head down and didn't upset the deadly Evertonian ultras.
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Yeah we’ve all done it, and unless it’s like one Derby away (early pride park fixture) where you realise there are thousands of you and behave as if you were in a villa section, then you keep your head down, gob shut and certainly don’t wear colours. We should only know by the lack of reactions/singing in which case fair enough l, if we know I think other fans are going to want them out…
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That was the first time I’d seen, on the big screen, a reason for not giving a decision after a VAR check, has that happened previously and I’ve missed it?
It was after they were claiming a penalty for a handball after their attacker headed it at point blank range at an arm in around the 20th minute, the reason came up on the screen about 10 minutes later.
Though that was about 20mins later. Surely paying fans in the stadium deserve to know what is going on in somewhat real-time, not wait for the display of a tweet?
Still better than the frozen goal check with Bayern that stayed there on screen unresoced for 5mins.
The other thing is the screen encouraging fans to follow live updates for VAR on Twitter. 1) I’d rather be on my phone as little as possible missing what’s going on, on the pitch 2) the idea of any sought of signal or working Wi-Fi at VP is laughable
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After the game I usually try to listen to the radio as I walk back to the car. As I walk down Witton lane it works perfectly then cuts out as I turn the corner only to come on again significantly later after the Yew Tree. Is this to do with police radios cutting out reception?
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After the game I usually try to listen to the radio as I walk back to the car. As I walk down Witton lane it works perfectly then cuts out as I turn the corner only to come on again significantly later after the Yew Tree. Is this to do with police radios cutting out reception?
Police don't cut reception, but they might use their own frequencies at a higher strength- assuming you're using AM/FM etc.
If it's off your phone then it's volume trying to access the network.
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After the game I usually try to listen to the radio as I walk back to the car. As I walk down Witton lane it works perfectly then cuts out as I turn the corner only to come on again significantly later after the Yew Tree. Is this to do with police radios cutting out reception?
Police don't cut reception, but they might use their own frequencies at a higher strength- assuming you're using AM/FM etc.
If it's off your phone then it's volume trying to access the network.
I'm using my phone (BBC Sounds) but just confused why it works in the ground then cuts off in the streets at exactly the same place each time.
Police do cut reception in Whitehall but maybe that a bit different.
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After the game I usually try to listen to the radio as I walk back to the car. As I walk down Witton lane it works perfectly then cuts out as I turn the corner only to come on again significantly later after the Yew Tree. Is this to do with police radios cutting out reception?
Police don't cut reception, but they might use their own frequencies at a higher strength- assuming you're using AM/FM etc.
If it's off your phone then it's volume trying to access the network.
If it happens at exactly the same spot, it'll likely just be a blind spot in DAB or internet coverage.
I have two seperate ones in the last mile of my journey to work - every single time I pass them, internet access goes so i lose whatever I'm listening to, then comes back at the same time.