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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Axl Rose on October 06, 2024, 12:51:34 PM
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Just win, Villa.
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Was not expecting Cash or Bailey. Nor Onana and Carlos injured or left out.
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Hahaha.... your manipulation of the language to overcome filters is impressive.
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Onana a miss.
Hopefully Bailey has a stormer.
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Hahaha.... your manipulation of the language to overcome filters is impressive.
I do my best, mate 😂
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A bit walking wounded with Cash and Bailey on the right-hand side. Five defenders and a goalie on the bench so apart from Duran, not much in the way of changes for an attacking sense.
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Onana out is a blow, midfield is pretty open. Manure have plenty going forward, we need to be clinical today.
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How Bailey starts after Wednesday is a mystery, could barely run 5 yards before being subbed.
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There’s Little Emi
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Did Axl accidently start the match thread in the thread archives, or did a mod move it?
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Can't believe the injuries have started to pile up already.
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I think I've started the this in the wrong place 😂
A panda free zone, so to speak.
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Midfield looks light on the bench. Need to put this to bed on the first half.
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So no actual midfielder on the bench then. That's sub-optimal.
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Big gaps in midfield without Onana and McGinn. Hopefully both miss internationals and are back for later on in the month.
Need a big big game from Bailey today please.
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We'll either absolutely batter them or lose 3-2.
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They’ve picked the old guard so midfield and defence will be slow.
Slightly surprised he hasn’t played Duran and Watkins
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They’ll definitely score today. We will also create plenty I suspect, so we need to be ruthless.
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We have to expose Dalot, Eriksen and Evans.
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Evans and Slabhead in @ center back for them.
De Ligt and Martinez (their one) dropped.
Seems a tad desperate.
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So no actual midfielder on the bench then. That's sub-optimal.
I always thought Buendia was a midfielder.
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Gutted onana is out
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Evans and Slabhead in @ center back for them.
De Ligt and Martinez (their one) dropped.
Seems a tad desperate.
He's either planning to sit deep all game and hit us on the counter through Eriksen, or he knows he's gone and this is a "it wasn't my fault" 11 for his CV.
We'll probably still lose 3-2.
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Aye. Onana does seem the type to pick up a knock or ten.
So it does seem increasingly odd that we let the Baron and Dendonker go this summer. Emery clearly didn't rate the latter. But the former might be better served on our bench than Valencia's.
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Big suprise Bailey is starting , wasnt expecting that . Thought Duran might have got a start , good to see Cash back.
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We have to expose Dalot, Eriksen and Evans.
I heard they're good friends with Sean Combs.
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I hope our players are not still hyped up by Wednesday's result and realise that there is a job to be done here. There is been far too much on the media all week about ETH and this match as his nadir if defeated. In the past every time that has been the case they have turned up and won so we have a job to do and it's going to be tough.
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Aye. Onana does seem the type to pick up a knock or ten.
So it does seem increasingly odd that we let the Baron and Dendonker go this summer. Emery clearly didn't rate the latter. But the former might be better served on our bench than Valencia's.
Yeah enzo would have been a good option for bench today. Hopefully kamara should be back after the break which will help
I think onana picked up quite a few injuries at everton so its not a suprise really
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Did Axl accidently start the match thread in the thread archives, or did a mod move it?
The first. I've merged them now.
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Did Axl accidently start the match thread in the thread archives, or did a mod move it?
The first. I've merged them now.
Edit, ignore that
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I hope our players are not still hyped up by Wednesday's result and realise that there is a job to be done here. There is been far too much on the media all week about ETH and this match as his nadir if defeated. In the past every time that has been the case they have turned up and won so we have a job to do and it's going to be tough.
Yup I expect them to put in a good display.
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We need to stop them putting the ball in behind our full backs as that's their main threat as well as slabhead at set pieces.
Get the first goal & they won't fancy it
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Jacob Tanswell (The Athletic) has tweeted that Carlos left the warm-up early to return to the dressing room.
Another possible injury then I guess.
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Why are we the 2pm ko, this is clearly the biggest match of the weekend, it should be the 4.30 ko.
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I hope our players are not still hyped up by Wednesday's result and realise that there is a job to be done here. There is been far too much on the media all week about ETH and this match as his nadir if defeated. In the past every time that has been the case they have turned up and won so we have a job to do and it's going to be tough.
All very reasonable points, but I'll be very disappointed if we don't beat these Red ***** comfortably.
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Duran against a tiring 67 year old Jonny Evans. We could be 4-0 down with half an hour to go and still win this.
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Why are we the 2pm ko, this is clearly the biggest match of the weekend, it should be the 4.30 ko.
So Axl can get to bed by midnight.
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If Carlos was a last minute injury then are we playing Cash before he's ready? Are we going to be pulling him and Bailey after 20 minutes?
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Watching sky sports and banging on about utds record at Villa, time to change that
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I really hate these twats. We'd better not choose today to be shit.
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If Carlos was a last minute injury then are we playing Cash before he's ready? Are we going to be pulling him and Bailey after 20 minutes?
No as wasn't the team announced well before the players warm up?
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If Carlos was a last minute injury then are we playing Cash before he's ready? Are we going to be pulling him and Bailey after 20 minutes?
No as wasn't the team announced well before the players warm up?
Oh, good point. Never mind.
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Why are we the 2pm ko, this is clearly the biggest match of the weekend, it should be the 4.30 ko.
So Axl can get to bed by midnight.
and then go home.
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Loving how H to Man U is now Villa's comedown...
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This is a nicely balanced team. Only real surprise is Bailey
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Let's not be the start of Man U's revival...
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Scholes is shocked with the Manure team , lets hope its a Villa win .
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About time we started beating this lot more often.
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I unfortunately do not see manure be as bad as last week
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Nice early yellow for them.
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MATTYYY! 😔
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Ffs cash.
That was piss poor
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very poor Cash
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Cash is dreadful.
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Bound to be a little rusty I guess
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What happened
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Atmosphere seems opposite of Wednesday night. Flat
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Showing in attack at last
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This is the first time watching us on TV, rather than a shitty stream, for donks. I miss the jeopardy.
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Ahhhhhh rogers
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Ezri down
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What happened
Passed it straight to one of them, ended up with Emi having to make a save
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Atmosphere seems opposite of Wednesday night. Flat
More expensive tickets meant you had more of the middle-class Villa fans there on Wednesday night.
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Thsnks
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All right, let's have Wednesday Costa then...
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Carlos on
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Konsa coming off ffs
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At least he'll miss England I suppose.
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Honestly. Our luck with injuries can fuck right off
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Garnachos offside ffa
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Great defending Carlos
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Bailey loses ball way too easy there
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Konsa's hamstring?
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These injuries are now ridiculous. Don't see this going well now, I'd take a draw.
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This is a completely terrible game so far.
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I think we've adopted a 0-0 at half-time/Duran strategy. We're not very good at 0-0 though.
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Man U have dragged us down to their level.
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Unlucky philiogene
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Unlucky from Philogene, made Mainoo look very average.
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Decent effort JPB.
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Bailey is he fit ?
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Surprised that they are only just edging possession, feels like they've had a fair bit more
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Man U have dragged us down to their level.
Seems to be playing like a bottom 6 against top 6 with giving up possession and inviting us to break them down whilst they try to hit on the counter with long balls from the keeper.
Edit: They have had more recently.
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That little turd trying to ref the game as usual.
Fuck right off.
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Man U have dragged us down to their level.
Seems to be playing like a bottom 6 against top 6 with giving up possession and inviting us to break them down whilst they try to hit on the counter with long balls from the keeper.
Edit: They have had more recently.
It was always the way they were going to play as it's ETH only tactic. Unfortunately it worked against us last season.
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Man U have dragged us down to their level.
A version of Mark Twain
“Never play the same game as shit teams, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
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This games awful
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This lot are bang average, let's step this up
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What's the opposite of a homer ref?
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Man U have dragged us down to their level.
Seems to be playing like a bottom 6 against top 6 with giving up possession and inviting us to break them down whilst they try to hit on the counter with long balls from the keeper.
Edit: They have had more recently.
It was always the way they were going to play as it's ETH only tactic. Unfortunately it worked against us last season.
Made easier when you have a ref that's happy to let them do the job for him as well.
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Man U have dragged us down to their level.
A version of Mark Twain
“Never play the same game as shit teams, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
"The secret of getting ahead is getting started".
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What a waste.
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So many misplaced passes
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Man Utd are constantly getting the bounce of the ball and the scraps.
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A very sloppy game all round. A difficult watch atm
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This ref. FFS.
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Ffs dreadful defending there from us
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giving the ball away alot today
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This lot are bang average, let's step this up
Unfortunately we've also been very average so far
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This game has spawny Man U goal written all over it
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Can Ollie do a bit more against those two cloggers at the back?
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Maguire and 53 year old Evans is the kind of CB pairing I think a team like Burnley would have for their relegation season.
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We are doing our selves no favours with some of this defending
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Spectacularly bad football.
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really poor ollie
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It would be great to test their geriatric CBs before they bring on their younger, slightly better CBs
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A big fuck off from Tielemans there
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Embarrassing having a pensioner owning you like that. Step it up Ollie.
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Man that corner was so bad.
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Rogers looking dangerous, Ollie having a poor half here
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This was my fear today against these lot. Put so much against bayern we will play poorly today due to fatigue
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What’s the phrase… “after the Lord Mayors show”
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Fuck off Maguire
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Bailey 🤦♂️
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head it leon
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This has got Manure win written all over it.
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Yellow for Maguire.
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Bailey wasn't this bad under Smith/Gerrard. Dismal.
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Yellow all day long. Shut up harry
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This was my fear today against these lot. Put so much against bayern we will play poorly today due to fatigue
Although a lot of this season has been poor first half, much better second.
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Cash,Leon and Ollie not at it atm
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Another attack wasted
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That’s two walking red cards they’ve got now.
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I absolutely don’t recognise the Bailey I am watch today. He can’t be fit.
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This was my fear today against these lot. Put so much against bayern we will play poorly today due to fatigue
Although a lot of this season has been poor first half, much better second.
Hopefully thats one of these games today dave. Because if we play like this second half i can't see us scoring
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Neither side has put the other's goal under any real pressure yet
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Alot of heavy touches from us today
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That’s two walking red cards they’ve got now.
Hahahahahahaha! There will be no red cards for Man Utd.
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3 walking red cards now.
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I would be unhappy if that were a Villa yellow
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How is that a foul, Garnacgo was halfway down before Digne even got to him.
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Sky commentary thought it could have been red.
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Utd are a really undisciplined bunch
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We're starting to just press a bit now. That was better from Leon
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Stop wasting freekicks please Villa.
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Completely littered with mistakes. Really flat atmosphere aswell unsurprisingly
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This is a real dud of a display.
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That was another terrible set piece
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Keep chipping away Villa. If we don’t gift them a goal this lot will eventually break.
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Keep chipping away Villa. If we don’t gift them a goal this lot will eventually break.
We almost gifted them a a goal
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Stop wasting freekicks please Villa.
Free kicks and corners are where we're missing Luiz.
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Why was Hojlund not booked there for waving a “card”?
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Keep chipping away Villa. If we don’t gift them a goal this lot will eventually break.
The chipping away needs to be much higher quality. They’ve swapped centre backs, which is hardly the strongest evidence of stability and we’ve produced hardly anything.
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What ever we do we don’t want to go 2.0 up.
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Hojlund has a very punchable face and now he's fully adopted the man utd arrogance.
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Why was Hojlund not booked there for waving a “card”?
Do you need to ask?!
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What ever we do we don’t want to go 2.0 up.
I’d take that in the twelfth minute of six advertised minutes of second-half added time.
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Get digne off freekicks ffs!
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Oh no, Maguire is injured.
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Digne doing a great job of showing why it didn't matter that he was taken off before that free kick late against Ipswich that he was getting pissy about.
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Both sides are very pedestrian. Such a slow game.
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Dreadful half of football.
Really bad
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Well, that was shit. Better second half please.
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Following on BBC stats (Oktoberfest again). They've had 3 yellows already? Blimey. I predict some early baths in the second half for them.
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Dog dirt, that.
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Following on BBC stats (Oktoberfest again). They've had 3 yellows already? Blimey. I predict some early baths in the second half for them.
See SE's earlier post.
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Well, that was shit. Better second half please.
Don't forget, not losing to these twats equals a win.
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Dreadful half of football.
Really bad
Just contemplating getting a jigsaw out...
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Oh no, Maguire is injured.
Better if he stays on if on a yellow already.
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Absolutely shit. We mustn’t give these horrible shits anything today. I’m screaming at the Telly as if it’s a Blues game. You just get that feeling against these twats and Ive got it again today.
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Absolutely shite. Get Bailey off, Philogene on the right and Maatson on the left mid. Go up a gear and we wipe these off the park. Move it quicker, far too pedestrian.
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That Garnacho looks like the French clown in that episode of Knowing Me Knowing You with Alan Partridge. Very punchable face.
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That’s a very sloppy game of football. Very poor so far from both sides.
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Poorest match this season so far
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If we can't play them off the park (and the portents aren't good for that so far) it would be nice to fluke this with a totally unjustified penalty in the second half.
An unjust, retaken pen.
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That Garnacho looks like the French clown in that episode of Knowing Me Knowing You with Alan Partridge. Very punchable face.
Hat trick incoming
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I'm going to need some speed or something to keep me awake for the second half.
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You can just see them scoring in the last minute, we look like a side thrown together, Ollie and Bailey not doing enough.
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See how they handle Duran when he comes on. I'd get Maatsen on aswell at some stage. Two tired teams here resulting in lots of basic errors, no flow at all to the game
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See how they handle Duran when he comes on. I'd get Maatsen on aswell at some stage. Two tired teams here resulting in lots of basic errors, no flow at all to the game
Yeah i reckon these two will come on around 60th minute. Dignes been really poor today woth his delivery
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Following on BBC stats (Oktoberfest again). They've had 3 yellows already? Blimey. I predict some early baths in the second half for them.
There was a moment after about half an hour where Rogers got the ball and carried it forty yards upfield with Ericksen right next to him because he was frightened to make a challenge already being on a yellow. He didn't make the most of it, but with him and Mainoo booked, I would hope to see Rogers exploiting them on a half turn.
It's been pretty rank, though. Shame to see Ezri get an injury, but right before the International break is about the best possible time to find himself out for a few weeks.
Everyone looking a bit leggy to be honest, hopefully getting a rocket up their arses right now so we'll be in for a better second half.
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Absolutely shite. Get Bailey off, Philogene on the right and Maatson on the left mid. Go up a gear and we wipe these off the park. Move it quicker, far too pedestrian.
Maatsen at left back maybe? Emery will probably bring on Duran at half time for Philogene
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I'd bring big Jhon on now.
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Suspect Unai will be reasonably happy and the priority that half was not to concede. Am expecting a different second half
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Antony to score a spawny goal for them, and never troubling the net again this season.
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They’ve got two subs coming on - 4 and 2
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All set for a JD thundercunt to win it, or a spawny goal to lose it.
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Absolutely shite. Get Bailey off, Philogene on the right and Maatson on the left mid. Go up a gear and we wipe these off the park. Move it quicker, far too pedestrian.
Maatsen at left back maybe? Emery will probably bring on Duran at half time for Philogene
Philogene hasn't been too bad - certainly no worse than anyone else. If we're calling subs off the back of sub-par first-half performances then we could probably swap eight of them!
Beyond Buendia and Duran, we don't really have any options to change it going forward (unless we're giving one of the kids a run out), so I guess it's how long Unai is willing to give them to see if there's been a reaction.
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Need to get Duran and Maatsen on soon.
We will lose continuing in this lethargic manner.
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The man on the Guardian MBM thinks the ref's been favouring us.
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See how they handle Duran when he comes on. I'd get Maatsen on aswell at some stage. Two tired teams here resulting in lots of basic errors, no flow at all to the game
I was just thinking the same thing. We need some energy and dare say it, a bit of chaos. This is the most comfortable I have seen Man Utd all year. I thought we would really go at them but I think we have showed them too much respect. They will be happy to get out of this with a 0 0 draw. I would like to see us go for the throat.
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The man on the Guardian MBM thinks the ref's been favouring us.
My Man Utd mate was just moaning about exactly the same thing.
The nerve of these people.
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Manure are so poor but been comfortable.
Luca on the free kicks awful. Ollie and Bailey have been meh. Think JD needs to get on soon.
lets see a different Villa.
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This is what Emery keeps banging on about when he talks of consistency playing at the top end of the table. It’s all good and well getting ourselves up for big European games, but mentally we need to be sharp all through the season. And especially games at home vs inferior teams. Can’t have two weekends of dropped points.
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shocking pass Barkley
forest goal
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Scrappy game with very low quality
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From the Guardian MBM:
"I do, though – partially at least – agree with the point on the reffing. United players seem to have been booked for infractions that might’ve been fairly punished with a free-kick, while Villa’s have been excused similar offences."
I mean...fucking hell, lads.
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Emi good save.
Ffs guys wake up
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ffs villa get a hold of the ball
rashford close there
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Not buying the fatigue argument. They played a night later and away
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Like after witnessing 20 years worth of Villa players being booked for 50/50 challenges it's difficult to take this complaint seriously.
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Fucking Cash.
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Desperate stuff, this is what we always do against them.
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Both teams are lethargic. No energy or pace anywhere. Looking to play it square at every opportunity
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Another shite set piece
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I like Rogers but I do think he always goes a touch or two too far
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rogers needs to release quicker
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Awful every time we go forward
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Far too sloppy.
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How we not been even to test onana in 55 mins man
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Chelsea equalise.
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moreno at forest just as poor as we are
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Nice interplay between Ross and Matt there
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Oooooh
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cash whip the fucker in ollie was unmarked
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Yay, shot on target...
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It looks like we're killing time till Duran comes on. How about just bringing him on now?
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Finally a effort!
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Getting on top now
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what a shite corner
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Ffs digne. His delivery has been dreadful today
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Not buying the fatigue argument. They played a night later and away
We had the tougher game and took two important injuries to Ramsey and Onana
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I said before the game we needed to be ruthless. We’ve been anything but.
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Another yellow
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Rashford dodges a red
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That was embarrassing set piece
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Definitely better this half.
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I don't think Bailey has beaten the first man with any of his crosses today
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Bailey off, guess who is on!!!!
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This looks like a midtable mid season match
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Pf course they wont sent rashford off u utter prick ref
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Rashford with a blatant trip. Should be off
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Rashford subbed off.
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Pf course they wont sent rashford off u utter prick ref
Even Spit the Dog agrees
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Oh FFS.
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You completely bottled that ref
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Rashford is lucky there, clear yellow
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Come on Duran!
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Rashford with a blatant trip. Should be off
These wankers never send players off vs utd. If that was off 100% 2nd yellow.
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Pub league effort from Watkins. Seriously? WTF!
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Rashford is lucky there, clear yellow
It was such a pathetic foul it's like the ref took pity on him
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We’re so bloody imprecise today.
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We shouldn't be relying on Duran to dig us out of a hole every week.
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Ffs cash
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Fucking hell
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Cash and idiotic fucking fouls.
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It had that air of inevitability about it.
Garnacho is vile
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That was soft
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We shouldn't be relying on Duran to dig us out of a hole every week.
Well to be fair, it’s what he’s paid
to do.
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Garnacho goes down under a strong breeze but refs give it every time so why would he stop.
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Let off. Sort the fuck out Villa this is shite.
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We really need an upgrade at right-back.
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Cash is brainless.
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Can't stand Fernades but he is a bloody good player.
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Come on Villa, batter them
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Wake the fuck up now Villa.
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Brilliant stuff rogers 🤦♂️🤦♂️
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what a chance wasted
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This has late United winner written all over it. We’ve been really flat.
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Rogers is having a poor game by his standards.
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Maatsen please
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He's unlucky there, bobbled off his other foot.
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Why do we always play dog shit against this lot? Its really infuriating
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Get Maatsen on, and Buendia, too.
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Just landed into Iceland and reading through.
Sounds like a sleepy performance- got that horrible Man Utd 86th minute winner written on it…
Come on Villa!!
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Why do we always play dog shit against this lot? Its really infuriating
We only did for half a game last year to be fair
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Their goal is coming.
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Their goal is coming.
😂
Fuck em, mate.
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Even 0-0 on the back of 2-2 isn’t a good result.
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Cash is brainless.
He's got the air of a dog chasing a stick.
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How nice it'd be to score here.
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keep him off the free kicks please
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GET DIGNE OFF SET PIECES FFS !
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So poor.
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Digne used to be good at those didn't he.
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Every single set piece delivery has been terrible.
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Their goal is coming.
Will ya whisht
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Cash is brainless.
He's got the air of a dog chasing a stick.
My money's on the stick..
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you know this is gonna be a last minute jammy deflected goal to them. :(
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Maybe the 95th minute winner will be our winner
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Maybe the 95th minute winner will be our winner
Get Hause back to ping in a late header.
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the final ball hs been shite Luca there
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Maybe the 95th minute winner will be our winner
It won't.
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Digne should have knocked that in first time
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Maybe the 95th minute winner will be our winner
Bless your sweet naivety
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the final ball hs been shite Luca there
Twice n a few mins him and Rogers in great positon
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This really has been a pretty shambolic performance. We have been awful
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We are so ponderous today. It’s been awful.
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Our crossing has been dire.
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CL Hangover?
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We have been poor but United even worse. They are a rabble atm
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I'm surprised Maatsen hasn't been brought on.
Philogene has been a bit bland. Surely a few changes to come?
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We haven’t wanted this enough. Way too predictable against one of the worst Man U sides in recent years.
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I'm surprised Maatsen hasn't been brought on.
He's on now for Digne.
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I know Unai likes to build up slowly from the back, but fuck me this has been an eyesore.
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I'm surprised Maatsen hasn't been brought on.
He's on now for Digne.
Could be the bit of pace and drive we need.
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Game summed up right there.
Even the sub who should be fresh is shanking it.
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We've gone from everyone being amazing, to everyone being total Blues in 4 days
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We are never gonna score if we dont get the ball back forward quicker ffs
Martinez taking forever getting ball forward
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So…not much injury time to help Man Utd until the referee has to change his batteries.
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Briefcase wanker
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Farce. Free kick will bounce harmlessly past the goal now.
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6 mins added
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Why was the replacement the other side of the ground?
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There has been a lack of urgency. I know our game is to draw teams on to us and then exploit the gaps but when a team sits deep, has some midfield discipline or zero attacking intent it becomes a really boring game of patience. We are at home. We should have gone at them more.
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6 mins added
And the rest.
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Comedy gold here..poundshop batteries
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All about you isn't it ref.
Cxnt.
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Worst I've seen Rogers
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What a miss..
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Worst I've seen Rogers
Surprised EMI hasn’t had a run out
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Big disappointing performance today. Well if we aren't going to win it don't lose it.
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Dont know how philiogene misses that
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Great by Cash
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Brilliant defending from Cash.
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Worst I've seen Rogers
He has been absolutely abysmal today
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cleaan sheet at least but realy meh today
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rogers that was poor
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Dreadful game.
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Feels like a loss
Absolutely pathetic performance today
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If the Chelsea game stays 1-1, its not the worst weekend.
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They played Thursday. Got a very jammy draw. They played with 2 old CBs. We hardly tested them or their liability of a keeper. This wasn’t a good result for us.
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Awful performance. Man United came for a point and got it, but we were so sloppy and slow at times.
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Feels like a loss
Absolutely pathetic performance today
why does it feel like a loss? it's just a draw, after a huge week. shake your head pal
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Feels like a loss
Absolutely pathetic performance today
Ridiculous.
We have had worse weeks.
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This season things haven't really clicked, we've had a few injuries already and some players are carrying knocks.
Despite this we have lost once and have got 6 points in the CL. We are finding a way to win and are becoming resilient. We are fine against other good teams but still struggle to impose ourselves against weaker opposition as we should. We are a very good side in the making.