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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Smirker on October 03, 2024, 12:14:05 AM
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Sunday.
We go again.
FTF 8)
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Determined not to let tonight get to me, so I'll conservatively predict 18-0 to us.
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No poll. Amateur.
2-2
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I'm going for a 2-1 Villa win.
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3-2 us.
Duran, not 'Pan#@', with a brace, and Tielemens.
That screbby rat and eyebrow fuck for them.
The poll looks like it's been written by a toddler with crayons. Won't be voting. Scorchio is rubbish.
*Thank you for amending the poll.
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Absolutely nailed on defeat.
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Will we have a midfield?
Ramsey, McGinn, Bailey, Kamara, Onana (taken off last night) all out?
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Absolutely nailed on defeat.
100%.
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Absolutely nailed on defeat.
100%.
Yep, this....but do you know what? I couldn't give a f**k at this precise moment in time.
We will finish in the league where we deserve to finish....and that will be above Scumchester.
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Will we have a midfield?
Ramsey, McGinn, Bailey, Kamara, Onana (taken off last night) all out?
If they're all out, that still leaves Tielemens and Barkley in the middle (pretty strong), and Philogene and Maatsen to play either side of them. Considering that would be FIVE first-team midfielders out, it's a testament to our squad building in the last two years that we can still put out a decent 11 - but the bench options will be weak...
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Rat-face's red has been rescinded. We'll lose. My first game at VP this season.
I'll go for a Legion, 0-2.
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You can bet your house on these twats spawning a win against us.
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They will cheat and win.
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They will cheat and win.
Unfortunately yes. But still, been a grand old week.
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Would be kind of funny if Ipswich were the only team we couldn't beat this week.
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They will cheat and win.
They haven't needed to of late. We've got a better team, a better manager and we're at home, so we should win. But we won't, because it's Man U.
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We’ll win this I’m going for 2-0 it’s about time we did. I say it every season, the biggest game in club football not withstanding Wednesday for me. To play them off the park will make my week complete
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Rat-face's red has been rescinded. We'll lose. My first game at VP this season.
I'll go for a Legion, 0-2.
How on earth has that been overturned? Yes he slipped before, but that didn't cause him to launch his studs halfway up Maddison's leg.
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Rat-face's red has been rescinded. We'll lose. My first game at VP this season.
I'll go for a Legion, 0-2.
How on earth has that been overturned? Yes he slipped before, but that didn't cause him to launch his studs halfway up Maddison's leg.
Tbf his studs didn't touch him, there's no way that's a red card
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Rat-face's red has been rescinded. We'll lose. My first game at VP this season.
I'll go for a Legion, 0-2.
How on earth has that been overturned? Yes he slipped before, but that didn't cause him to launch his studs halfway up Maddison's leg.
Tbf his studs didn't touch him, there's no way that's a red card
I haven't watched it since it happened so if that's the case, fair enough.
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Rat-face's red has been rescinded. We'll lose. My first game at VP this season.
I'll go for a Legion, 0-2.
How on earth has that been overturned? Yes he slipped before, but that didn't cause him to launch his studs halfway up Maddison's leg.
Tbf his studs didn't touch him, there's no way that's a red card
it is, because it his him !! :D
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Please. Pretty please Villa. Promise I will be a good lad if you win
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We’ll lose. But for some reason, right now, I couldn’t give a shit.
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On Saturday I was thinking that we would win one, draw one and lose one of the three games coming up v Ipswich, Bayern and Man Utd, and pondering which outcome I'd prefer in each game. Of all three options, losing to these was my least preferable, and I'm kind of thinking it might suit us if they were to get a decent result in Porto tonight.
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I absolutely want to win, I want the feeling after Citeh and Arse. We will bE knackered at the final whistle but it will be worth it.
Listen to what the manager says, go and execute it, beat the plastic scumbag twats.
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Will we have a midfield?
Ramsey, McGinn, Bailey, Kamara, Onana (taken off last night) all out?
That's worrying. Might have to shift Rogers to the left and maybe start Buendia off Watkins. Id start Maatsen at left back too.
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Will we have a midfield?
Ramsey, McGinn, Bailey, Kamara, Onana (taken off last night) all out?
Tielemans Barkley
Jaden Rogers Maatsen I imagine.
Given our slow and weak their CM is generally we don't have to be at full strength to beat them. Spurs only had Bentancur as a DM for example last week.
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1-2.
Villa to totally dominate the game but lose to two breakaway goals where Garnacho outruns Carlos as we revert to a high line.
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The fucking game I fucking hate the fucking most
With their fucking wanker fans, fucking wanker rat boy players and fucking corrupt officials.
Please just let us beat the fuckers.
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The fucking game I fucking hate the fucking most
With their fucking wanker fans, fucking wanker rat boy players and fucking corrupt officials.
Please just let us beat the fuckers.
i agree
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Let's smash them and put an end to Ten Hag's misery. I know he's doing a fantastic job, but if King Rat and the guy from MasterChef really want Southgate, things could get so much better.
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Would be kind of funny if Ipswich were the only team we couldn't beat this week.
...and seasons when we can't beat Ipswich tend to go well...
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We're better than them but if they ever draw the lottery at Villa Park you just know it'll be won by a Man U ****. Still, this side breaks such runs so FTF. 2-0.
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Defend as we did last night and we will win the game. They are not a good side and we need to exploit that as Spurs did.
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Martinez
Cash, Konsa, Torres, Maatsen
Tielemans, Barkley
Philogene, Rogers
Buendia, Watkins
Likely to have a number of players out. No harm to rotate the likes of Carlos and Digne, Cash might only last 60-70 mins anyway.. As much as last night was great, to beat these would mean even more. Squad is going to be weak enough in all honesty with all the injuries.
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Here comes the Champions League hangover. The worst time to play them.
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Here comes the Champions League hangover. The worst time to play them.
The days pissing our pants playing this bunch of mid-table a-holes has to be over.
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Maybe when we start beating them on a vaguely regular basis.
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Here comes the Champions League hangover. The worst time to play them.
The days pissing our pants playing this bunch of mid-table a-holes has to be over.
I'm not pissing my pants. I'm sensibly aware of an actual witch's curse that exists.
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They are in Porto tonight, we've not travelled. We have Emery.
We'll lose. Wankers.
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Here comes the Champions League hangover. The worst time to play them.
The days pissing our pants playing this bunch of mid-table a-holes has to be over.
I'm not pissing my pants. I'm sensibly aware of an actual witch's curse that exists.
I wasn't thinking so much about the supporters, but in the past couple of seasons Villa teams have afforded them too much respect.
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Here comes the Champions League hangover. The worst time to play them.
They are playing Porto in Portugal tonight. If we're likely to be struggling after our European adventures, then they will be too.
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Here comes the Champions League hangover. The worst time to play them.
They are playing Porto in Portugal tonight. If we're likely to be struggling after our European adventures, then they will be too.
Are you trying to apply logic here? Ha, fool!
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4-0 us Watkins (2), Rogers, Duran.
Its time.
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I do not share your optimism but it absolutely is. In fact, giving them in particular a proper hiding would probably trump last night.
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Once upon a time they had the better manager and stronger squad . Now we have. I expect us to win and win well. Onwards and Upwards!!
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0-2
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3-2 us.
Duran, not 'Pan#@', with a brace, and Tielemens.
That screbby rat and eyebrow fuck for them.
The poll looks like it's been written by a toddler with crayons. Won't be voting. Scorchio is rubbish.
*Thank you for amending the poll.
I wont call him that anymore as didnt realise it would be offensive so apologies to anyone that got offended. Just jumped on the bandwagon with the nickname.
Im going with duran-amo though with his explosive nature 😁
I hate manure i fucking hate them. Please beat them. No more shit please. Just abit concerned how tired we might be for this one. We need one more big push before internationals
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'Eyebrow fuck' just killed me. I'm not even certain who it is!
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'Eyebrow fuck' just killed me. I'm not even certain who it is!
Garnacho? I call him Ugly Tree because let's face it, he hit every branch when falling off it.
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Once upon a time they had the better manager and stronger squad . Now we have. I expect us to win and win well. Onwards and Upwards!!
We had that last season too. We’re cursed against them for the most part.
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A repeat of Emery's first game in charge of Villa will do very nicely indeed!
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'Eyebrow fuck' just killed me. I'm not even certain who it is!
Garnacho? I call him Ugly Tree because let's face it, he hit every branch when falling off it.
I'd go Casemiro.
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This Porto game is pretty much guaranteeing they’ll mug us on Sunday.
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This Porto game is pretty much guaranteeing they’ll mug us on Sunday.
Nope .
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This Porto game is pretty much guaranteeing they’ll mug us on Sunday.
Yep ans the thing is its nit suprising anymore as its the same most seasons. We absolutely shit ourselves for some reason vs them
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This Porto game is pretty much guaranteeing they’ll mug us on Sunday.
Not sure where that logic comes from.
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This Porto game is pretty much guaranteeing they’ll mug us on Sunday.
Not sure where that logic comes from.
Well it’s clearly not logical. It’s just one of those things you know just happens with those fuckers.
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This Porto game is pretty much guaranteeing they’ll mug us on Sunday.
Not sure where that logic comes from.
Well it’s clearly not logical. It’s just one of those things you know just happens with those fuckers.
Logic is always replaced with cheating, where these fuckers are concerned.
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Got that funny gut feeling about this game. Everything points to anothet win but my my guts says... Nope !!
0-2
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The rat faced fucker sent off again tonight after 2 yellows.
Hat trick on Sunday ?
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One thing's for certain, he's in for dog's abuse now on Sunday, even more than he usually gets at VP, and I fear with the customary outcome in such circumstances.
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'Eyebrow fuck' just killed me. I'm not even certain who it is!
I hope Axl is teaching this expression to the kids of Tokyo.
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We ate going to do the feckers, never been more confident. It’ll be Ten Haags last game
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They are shockingly poor , all over the place at the back, geriatric in midfield and future I'm a celebrity get me out of here wingers up front . What could possibly go wrong. Please Unai sort this with wildfire or anything.
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I am hopeful that their players may be playing to get Ten Hag sacked.
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Here comes the Champions League hangover. The worst time to play them.
We'll smite those rabid dogs.
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4-0 us Watkins (2), Rogers, Duran.
Its time.
This is what it deserves to be, but absolutely no-one will be surprised when it turns out to be:
0-1 Fernandez 88 (p)
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Just win - 3-1
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4-0 us Watkins (2), Rogers, Duran.
Its time.
[/quote4-0 us Watkins (2), Rogers, Duran.
Its time.
The last time we put 4 past them was 1963.
Hateley [2), Burrows, Deakin.
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My contempt for Newton Heath knows no bounds, mainly down to the media's lovesick schoolgirl like obsession with them amongst other things. See the Guardian's 10 things this morning. We've just registered a fantastic win in Europe, on the back of a fine start to the season but that's not enough to be the primary focus, yes, it's all about a faded, struggling mid table side.
Anyway, I knew the fucking rat would get a reprieve and my next prediction was that he would be instrumental in a win for his despicable bunch on Sunday. But I'm going to be wrong this time, the place will be rocking and NH will be dispatched, making it a victory not only for us, but for the workers of the world, against that fucking ****** Ratcliffe.
3-0
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All my manure fans are scared saying we should kill them.
Just hope the atmosphere wont be dead and we can do another Wednesday night as they will need us. God i hate manure
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You have Manure fans ?
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This Porto game is pretty much guaranteeing they’ll mug us on Sunday.
Not sure where that logic comes from.
Well it’s clearly not logical. It’s just one of those things you know just happens with those fuckers.
Logic is always replaced with cheating, where these fuckers are concerned.
Come on Lads, lets be avin yer.
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I hate this game more than the Blues games.
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That wanker Robber Jones is ref.
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I always like to think that in the three biggest games we've ever played against them, we've won, ie the 1957 FA Cup Final, the 1970 League Cup Semi Final, and the 1994 League Cup Final. Even in 1992/93, when we went head to head with them for the title and eventually came second, we took 4 points from them.
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It is my firm hope that we win, and then develop the self-belief to stop calling them 'manure'.
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Ratcliffe is spending one of his tax haven days to come and watch us Sunday apparently.
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Jug ears is back in. Ten Haag is under the cosh. We know what happens next....
We'll play them off the park but lose. It's the natural order of things against this shower.
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I always like to think that in the three biggest games we've ever played against them, we've won, ie the 1957 FA Cup Final, the 1970 League Cup Semi Final, and the 1994 League Cup Final. Even in 1992/93, when we went head to head with them for the title and eventually came second, we took 4 points from them.
Not sure how the 1994 League Cup Final and 1970 semi are bigger than the 2010 final.
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That wanker Robber Jones is ref.
Wasn't he the ref in Feb too, letting them away with a shocking number of fouls and generally giving them everything. I'm sure he did their game with Cov too. Awful ref. They'll win, he'll be like a 12th man.
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I always like to think that in the three biggest games we've ever played against them, we've won, ie the 1957 FA Cup Final, the 1970 League Cup Semi Final, and the 1994 League Cup Final. Even in 1992/93, when we went head to head with them for the title and eventually came second, we took 4 points from them.
Beat them in the League Cup that year too.
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I always like to think that in the three biggest games we've ever played against them, we've won, ie the 1957 FA Cup Final, the 1970 League Cup Semi Final, and the 1994 League Cup Final. Even in 1992/93, when we went head to head with them for the title and eventually came second, we took 4 points from them.
Not sure how the 1994 League Cup Final and 1970 semi are bigger than the 2010 final.
I'm too young to comment on 1970, but 94 certainly felt like a much bigger deal to me than 2010. Maybe because back then the Premier League hadn't yet consumed everythinng and the League Cup Final was still considered one of the biggest games of the season, plus it was payback for them robbing the league the year before.
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I always like to think that in the three biggest games we've ever played against them, we've won, ie the 1957 FA Cup Final, the 1970 League Cup Semi Final, and the 1994 League Cup Final. Even in 1992/93, when we went head to head with them for the title and eventually came second, we took 4 points from them.
Not sure how the 1994 League Cup Final and 1970 semi are bigger than the 2010 final.
1970, we were in the old third division, they had Best, Law and Charlton, 62,500 inside Villa Park, two days before Christmas Day.
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There's losing and then there's losing in the way we normally do against these tosspots . Dodgy pen in stoppage time taken by ratface would be my guess this time
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Martinez
Digne
Pau
Carlos
Konsa
Morgan
Onana
Barkley
Philogene
Tielemans
Watkins
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Martinez
Digne
Pau
Carlos
Konsa
Morgan
Onana
Barkley
Philogene
Tielemans
Watkins
Feels like a midfield three of Onana, Barkley and Tielemans should be able to boss whatever mish-mash they have in midfield these days.
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I always like to think that in the three biggest games we've ever played against them, we've won, ie the 1957 FA Cup Final, the 1970 League Cup Semi Final, and the 1994 League Cup Final. Even in 1992/93, when we went head to head with them for the title and eventually came second, we took 4 points from them.
Beat them in the League Cup that year too.
Though sadly not in 2010.
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Martinez
Digne
Pau
Carlos
Konsa
Morgan
Onana
Barkley
Philogene
Tielemans
Watkins
Feels like a midfield three of Onana, Barkley and Tielemans should be able to boss whatever mish-mash they have in midfield these days.
That McTominay looks like a pretty decent 10 at Napoli speaks volumes for how poor Ten Haag seems to be at creating a cohesive structure. Mainoo and Urgarte I suspect it will be.
I've pushed Morgan wide and Tielemans into.10, as I am guessing both JJ and Bailey won't be back. McGinn still out too.
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Ratcliffe is spending one of his tax haven days to come and watch us Sunday apparently.
He'll get on famously with Heck.
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Ratcliffe is spending one of his tax haven days to come and watch us Sunday apparently.
He'll get on famously with Heck.
Our cnuts get to meet their cnut?! Truly, we are elite.
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I always like to think that in the three biggest games we've ever played against them, we've won, ie the 1957 FA Cup Final, the 1970 League Cup Semi Final, and the 1994 League Cup Final. Even in 1992/93, when we went head to head with them for the title and eventually came second, we took 4 points from them.
Not sure how the 1994 League Cup Final and 1970 semi are bigger than the 2010 final.
1970, we were in the old third division, they had Best, Law and Charlton, 62,500 inside Villa Park, two days before Christmas Day.
Sure. But a semi-final isn't bigger than a final. Assuming all other results stayed the same, I'd swap the semi-final wins in 1963, 1970, 2000, 2010 and 2015 to win our most recent final in 2020.
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Instead of them trying to poach our manager we should be poaching their better players like mainoo. Sums up where both clubs are
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Rat face will assist/cheat in a jammy win for Newton Heath. Then, they'll get twatted by Brentford after the international break.
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Rat face will assist/cheat in a jammy win for Newton Heath. Then, they'll get twatted by Brentford after the international break.
I would usually share your pessimism, but I have a feeling we are going to absolutely batter them on Sunday. I think this because this is the first game in ages I won't be able to watch. Oh, and we are ace and they are shite.
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Rat face will assist/cheat in a jammy win for Newton Heath. Then, they'll get twatted by Brentford after the international break.
I would usually share your pessimism, but I have a feeling we are going to absolutely batter them on Sunday. I think this because this is the first game in ages I won't be able to watch. Oh, and we are ace and they are shite.
I thought that last season but we lost both. Unais record against ten hag is very poor. W1 L 4
Something i am sure he wants to put right
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I'm still scarred by Boxing Day. We're just not meant to beat this lot.
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Martinez
Digne
Pau
Carlos
Konsa
Morgan
Onana
Barkley
Philogene
Tielemans
Watkins
Feels like a midfield three of Onana, Barkley and Tielemans should be able to boss whatever mish-mash they have in midfield these days.
Hopefully Onana is fit for this one, as no doubt Casemiro, Mainoo and Eriksen will, for one day only, turn into prime Keane, Viera and Modric.
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At least we haven't got Varane giving one of his two world class performances a season.
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I'd like a nice controlled performance please, a goal early in each half* before the dodgiest of all penalties* and that cheating rat being sent off for Man U.
*Dear footballing gods - for us, obviously.
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In a continuation of the lack of logic....
Please let them score first. I'll get twitchy if we go 1 or 2 up against this lot!
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Repeat of Unai's first game, 3-1 win.
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Just win: I dislike this lot so much! And, prove that we can come off a high-profile European game and still perform in the league.
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Just win: I dislike this lot so much! And, prove that we can come off a high-profile European game and still perform in the league.
We won 2-0 at Arsenal last season after going to extra time and pens in the conference league on the Thursday before.
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BBC is wall to wall ManUre coverage today, they are now even doing a live Q&A session on them . Sickening
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Time to give these fuckers a right tonking. 5-1
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Time to give these fuckers a right tonking. 5-1
Id love to absolute humiliate them
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BBC is wall to wall ManUre coverage today, they are now even doing a live Q&A session on them . Sickening
If only there was some way to turn it off.
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Ratcliffe is spending one of his tax haven days to come and watch us Sunday apparently.
Let's hope it's their 'Nas at Fulham' moment.
*Obviously without the subsequent improvement in their fortunes.
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BBC is wall to wall ManUre coverage today, they are now even doing a live Q&A session on them . Sickening
Honestly, I think it's because the media smells blood. It's not fawning, I think there is so much coverage because Old Trafford us about to be the centre of a big story. If we beat them at the weekend, there is a pretty decent chance they bin Ten Hag. He's the odds-on favourite to be the next manager sacked in the premier league. They're already in the bottom half, and a win would see us 9 points clear of them after 7 games.
For the players they have, they're underperforming, and the reality is they won't stay rubbish forever - unfortunately. We need to take this opportunity to stand on their neck and put Ten Hag out of his misery.
My guess is Unai will have them WELL up for this. Not only to prove they can compete in Europe and the league at the same time, but this is a golden opportunity to put breathing distance between us and a rival for the European places.
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I hate this fixture because I loathe and detest the red filth. Rat face's red being rescinded is bad news but i have a feeling that this time we will beat them.
God I hate them. The ground will be rocking and please Villa let me drive home on Sunday with a smile on my face.
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No surprise but Emery said Bailey and Ramsey both doubts
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BBC is wall to wall ManUre coverage today, they are now even doing a live Q&A session on them . Sickening
Honestly, I think it's because the media smells blood. It's not fawning, I think there is so much coverage because Old Trafford us about to be the centre of a big story.
And even without all that, their game / result last night is probably the biggest football story this morning.
The BBC website was wall-to-wall Villa yesterday morning with Liverpool's routine win nothing but a footnote.
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Just watching Mark Goldbridge and all their supporters think they have no chance.
I'm worrying about our injuries.
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No surprise but Emery said Bailey and Ramsey both doubts
Any mention of Onana?
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No surprise but Emery said Bailey and Ramsey both doubts
Any mention of Onana?
Minor injury but should be OK
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I'm going Sunday and it's the first time I've been against this lot in fucking years, only because I hate this fixture more than any other. That feeling you get after another sickening defeat, you don't even numb to it, it just gets worse every time. The bastards.
Floated out of B6 on Wednesday night but I'll feel even better if we beat this horrible lot.
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No surprise but Emery said Bailey and Ramsey both doubts
Any mention of Onana?
Minor injury but should be OK
As I expected, the Onana one never felt like anything worth worrying about. I reckon Bailey might be on the bench but I'd expect Philogene to start. I wonder what we'll do on the other side though:
Maatsen starting on the wing?
Rogers out wide and Duran starting?
Buendia starting?
Or as Ads suggested push Tielemans forward and bring Barkley in. I reckon there's a decent argument for any of those options.
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I wish I was going to this now.
They are always nervy, but I like the cut of Emery's jib, saying that1 this is a bigger challenge than Wednesday. Keep everyone on their toes.
They will want another basketball game, we must resist and stay controlled.
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I'm going Sunday and it's the first time I've been against this lot in fucking years, only because I hate this fixture more than any other. That feeling you get after another sickening defeat, you don't even numb to it, it just gets worse every time. The bastards.
Me too. Only other time I've been to this fixture was a 0-0 during the O'Neill years. I think Reo-choker missed a decent chance for us and Milner went close too.
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If Onana, JJ and Bailey can't play, I'd go with
Dibu
Konsa Carlos Pau Digne
Tielemans Barkley
Philogene Maatsen
Rogers
Watkins
Philogene on the right to give Ezri support - that's the side down which Rashford plays.
Alternatively, move Ezri insde for Carlos and start Ned at rightback.
Not a lot on the bench
Gauci
Bogarde
Ned
Emi B
The kids
But whoever we start- just please, please, PLEASE beat this bunch of scabby toerags and their ratboy captain... not forgetting the fawning support they get from referees and VAR officials
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If Onana, JJ and Bailey can't play, I'd go with
Dibu
Konsa Carlos Pau Digne
Tielemans Barkley
Philogene Maatsen
Rogers
Watkins
Philogene on the right to give Ezri support - that's the side down which Rashford plays.
Alternatively, move Ezri insde for Carlos and start Ned at rightback.
Not a lot on the bench
Gauci
Bogarde
Ned
Emi B
The kids
I'd say that there's a very notable guy missing from the subs bench there...
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What about Duran and Watkins starting and Rogers on the left?
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No surprise but Emery said Bailey and Ramsey both doubts
Any mention of Onana?
Minor injury but should be OK
As I expected, the Onana one never felt like anything worth worrying about. I reckon Bailey might be on the bench but I'd expect Philogene to start. I wonder what we'll do on the other side though:
Maatsen starting on the wing?
Rogers out wide and Duran starting?
Buendia starting?
Or as Ads suggested push Tielemans forward and bring Barkley in. I reckon there's a decent argument for any of those options.
Pretty safe to say Tielemans will not move position. Indeed on current form he would be the last one to do so!
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We’ve really cocked up our last 4 games against them, particularly the last two league games. We need to be utterly ruthless in this one.
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I hate this game more than the Blues games.
1000000000% agree
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These absolute scumbags always beat us, of course they do. Not this weekend though. Mr Emery has got this.
Villa 3-0 Man Ure
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Fernandez dive in 92nd minute for penalty (again). 2-2.
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If Onana, JJ and Bailey can't play, I'd go with
Dibu
Konsa Carlos Pau Digne
Tielemans Barkley
Philogene Maatsen
Rogers
Watkins
Philogene on the right to give Ezri support - that's the side down which Rashford plays.
Alternatively, move Ezri insde for Carlos and start Ned at rightback.
Not a lot on the bench
Gauci
Bogarde
Ned
Emi B
The kids
I'd say that there's a very notable guy missing from the subs bench there...
In fairness, Duran could be classed as one of the kids. Only 20.
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I thought that, but Ned gets his own spot despite being younger.
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Fernandez dive in 92nd minute for penalty (again). 2-2.
WTF isnt he supposed to be suspended? At least for one game???
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Feel weirdly confident that we're gonna beat them.
And I'm never confident against Manure.
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Feel weirdly confident that we're gonna beat them.
And I'm never confident against Manure.
I'm always confident.
I honestly think it could be 5/6 against them.
5-0 Villa.
Trust me.
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Fernandez dive in 92nd minute for penalty (again). 2-2.
WTF isnt he supposed to be suspended? At least for one game???
Don't be silly. Their players aren't allowed to be suspended. It's in the laws of the game as written by ferguson
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Martinez
Digne
Pau
Carlos
Konsa
Morgan
Onana
Barkley
Philogene
Tielemans
Watkins
Possibly go with this, only alternative really is Tielemans in his normal role and Beundia behind Ollie, might be a big ask for Beundia though, considering his lack of football.
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Just watching Mark Goldbridge and all their supporters think they have no chance.
I'm worrying about our injuries.
Goldbridge is one of the few utd fans i like. Seems to really want villa do well too
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2-3 - their winner in injury time. We all know it's going to happen.
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Just watching Mark Goldbridge and all their supporters think they have no chance.
I'm worrying about our injuries.
Goldbridge is one of the few utd fans i like. Seems to really want villa do well too
Christ, really?!
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"Not a lot on the bench" - you could have Durán and 6 of our goalies from U21s down to youth level on it and our bench would still be stronger than most other clubs.
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EMI
Konsa Diego Pau Digne
Philogene Tielemans Onana
Rogers Barkley
Watkins
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Just watching Mark Goldbridge and all their supporters think they have no chance.
I'm worrying about our injuries.
Goldbridge is one of the few utd fans i like. Seems to really want villa do well too
Christ, really?!
What you mean ?
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I’ve given up on this fixture for many years. I actually thought we’d turned the corner on SUE’s first game - only to be followed by 4 straight defeats and some of them in that usual sickening manner.
Remy junior before SUE’s arrival kept getting optimistic every year only to be kicked in the gonads like his old man so many times before.
This year, there is a hint of rage behind SUE’s mask and I think he’s taking it as a managerial slight that they’ve gone past him 4 times in succession. He will demand a repeat of the double header last year - arse-man city, monumental performances.
I really just don’t know.
I’m still on a cloud since Wednesday.
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I still cannot for the kife of me understand how we let a 2 goal lead slip against this terrible side on boxing day
One if unais worst results for me
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Stevenage say hello.
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Stevenage say hello.
Nah…..2-0 up at their place and cruising and then we fucking bottled it massively.
I agree, the Old Trafford games is the worst result under Unai.
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I still cannot for the kife of me understand how we let a 2 goal lead slip against this terrible side on boxing day
One if unais worst results for me
Move on.
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Cash was on the bench against Bayern, I think he might well start? Ramsey and Bailey are both doubts. UE is optimistic Onana will play. Hopefully McGinn is fit after the international break. Mings and Kamara might be on the bench soon...
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I still cannot for the kife of me understand how we let a 2 goal lead slip against this terrible side on boxing day
One if unais worst results for me
Move on.
I will when we put that right against these fuckers
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Cash was on the bench against Bayern, I think he might well start? Ramsey and Bailey are both doubts. UE is optimistic Onana will play. Hopefully McGinn is fit after the international break. Mings and Kamara might be on the bench soon...
Emery said a few weeks ago that all going well Kamara and Mings would be available for selection after the international break. Highly unlikely either of them will be starting a game immediately, but it would be a hugely positive thing to have them back in a match day squad, especially Mings.
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Aren’t Mings and Kamara playing for the U21s today?
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Aren’t Mings and Kamara playing for the U21s today?
He did say they'd play for the U21s soon and then all going well would be available for the senior team after the break.
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I watched them the other night. They looked ok going forward although they wouldn't have scored two had Porto not had butterfingers in goal. They were all over the place at the back at times though. Porto caught them on the break two or three times and didn't finish them off. This is a jolly good chance to roundly trounce them.
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In the PL we are overdue a win against one of the bigger teams at home. The last one was Arsenal, 10 months ago.
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3-2 us.
Duran, not 'Pan#@', with a brace, and Tielemens.
That screbby rat and eyebrow fuck for them.
The poll looks like it's been written by a toddler with crayons. Won't be voting. Scorchio is rubbish.
*Thank you for amending the poll.
I wont call him that anymore as didnt realise it would be offensive so apologies to anyone that got offended. Just jumped on the bandwagon with the nickname.
Im going with duran-amo though with his explosive nature 😁
I hate manure i fucking hate them. Please beat them. No more shit please. Just abit concerned how tired we might be for this one. We need one more big push before internationals
It's ok, mate 😊
It's not you ruining pre match/match threads with wanky nicknames, and ignoring other people's pleas to stop.
It has almost gotten to the point where a simple 0-0 appeals. No premature sperm donations (before) each goal, no cuntish...well you get the point....
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I too, am worried about this one.
I watched them the other night and they are woeful. So bad in fact that noneone gives them a chance; forescasting a comfortable Villa win. And yes, by every metric and statistical measure, we beat them. However, i have listened to pundits line up all week to predict an easy Villa win to put the final nail in Ten bob's coffin. However beware, he is a jammy bastard and and nearly always spawns a result at the 11th hour when he looks a gonner. You know what happens, they beat us and Rat boy, (who has been shit all season and by rights should not be playing) has the game of his life. He will either dive to get a penalty or stick one in the top corner from outside the box.
I hope that I am wrong and we win 10 nil of course. I am looking forward to it but with a hint of trepidation.
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They have been crap for a few years now but have managed 4 wins v us/Unai in that time and won 2 trophies , even when they are shite they somehow conjure up results against us and trophies.
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Ten Hag often gets a result when he’s on the brink. That worries me.
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Paul, you're always worried about how we play!
I wish one of the journos at the presser had the research to notice that Cash was on the bench on Weds and if he was likely to feature tomorrow.
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I was worried about this one, but I watched the clips of Unai's press conference this morning.
Seemed even more focussed and determined than usual (if that's even possible!?) - Angry almost. I've changed my mind after watching it - I think we could end up giving them the battering their performances against us have long deserved!
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Providing we don't leave ourselves open to the counter attack, we'll give them a hiding. Their success against us has mostly come from a ball in behind our fullbacks. They'll sit deep & try to catch us out. We need pace at fullbacks to counter that threat.
Martinez
Maatsen Konsa Torres Cash
Tielemans Onana
Rogers Duran Philogene
Watkins
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Never thought Manchester United at home would feel like a bit of an anti-climax, but I feel a bit like that after the high of Wednesday night.
Would be lovely to have a comfortable win against this lot though.
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Paul, you're always worried about how we play!
I wish one of the journos at the presser had the research to notice that Cash was on the bench on Weds and if he was likely to feature tomorrow.
Historical scarring, especially against these!
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McGinn missing and doubts over Onana, Bailey and JJ on top of the more longstanding injuries.
We usually play these spawny fuckers at the worst time and this seems no different.
I'd take the draw and hope it gives Ten Haag more time to oversee his master plan...though if a defeat for the Red Mancs sees Gareth Southgate parachuted in we should go flat out.
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If we’re three nil up with 15 minutes to play I might start believing we can beat the spawney wankers
As it is they have a massive psychological hex over us so I’m not hopeful
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southgate in .. yes please . Mount and maguire wouldnt miss a game.
villa 3 manure 1
ratboy pen 18
watkins 43
rogers 52
duran 79
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Never thought Manchester United at home would feel like a bit of an anti-climax,
It won't when our fourth goes in.
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Can see Big Morgz getting off the mark tomorrow at villa park this season. Watkins with a goal also
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A win would be great for the table now. Put some distance between us and Newcastle again. Worst case scenario, I think, is we go into the break in 6th, 3 points behind Chelsea in 4th.
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McGinn missing and doubts over Onana, Bailey and JJ on top of the more longstanding injuries.
We usually play these spawny fuckers at the worst time and this seems no different.
I'd take the draw and hope it gives Ten Haag more time to oversee his master plan...though if a defeat for the Red Mancs sees Gareth Southgate parachuted in we should go flat out.
In spite of my concerns, I’d be gutted with anything less than a win.
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PLEASE WIN
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Fucking hell.
I hate this tie.
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We're a bit light and Bughead Bruno is banned.
1.0 to us, 2 sloppy goals to them. Chaos with the 78th minute equaliser. Onana saves a late pen from Onana
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We're a bit light and Bughead Bruno is banned.
1.0 to us, 2 sloppy goals to them. Chaos with the 78th minute equaliser. Onana saves a late pen from Onana
Thankfully we can disregard this prediction.
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Score first and this lot won't need an excuse to down tools.
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We were 2 up against this lot last year and they didn't down tools. Or maybe they want to make sure he's sacked.
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We're a bit light and Bughead Bruno is banned.
1.0 to us, 2 sloppy goals to them. Chaos with the 78th minute equaliser. Onana saves a late pen from Onana
He's not banned, is he?
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Nope.
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Fucking hell.
I hate this tie.
Yep, me too.
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Fucking hell.
I hate this tie.
Send it to the charity shop and wear a different one, then.
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McGinn missing and doubts over Onana, Bailey and JJ on top of the more longstanding injuries.
We usually play these spawny fuckers at the worst time and this seems no different.
I'd take the draw and hope it gives Ten Haag more time to oversee his master plan...though if a defeat for the Red Mancs sees Gareth Southgate parachuted in we should go flat out.
We're a top team, they're midtable. Why should any fan be happy to take the draw?
We need to think like a top team because we are a top team. The days of shit Villa are long gone. Any other top 6 team would not be happy with a draw against these at home, and neither should we be.
Anything other than a win is two points dropped, even with our injuries.
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Its game day. Hoping for three points
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As long as Van Nistelrooy can’t come off the bench we should just be treating this as any other fixture. They’re a mid table team at present, like a Fulham. We shouldn’t be making them to be anything beyond that.
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I think a lot of fans have a pessimistic view of this fixture given our atrocious record over the last 40 years and, I include myself in that.
It's time to put this hoodoo to bed.
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A win would be great for the table now. Put some distance between us and Newcastle again. Worst case scenario, I think, is we go into the break in 6th, 3 points behind Chelsea in 4th.
Good point. Looks so far like Chelsea are pushing hard to join up with last year’s top 4 (though remains to be seen how Maresca responds to adversity). So keeping pace with them is a must. With our CL performances, there will hopefully be 5 CL places this year, so the Chelsea resurgence is not likely to be existential for our plan.
Our top 4 odds have shortened slightly incidentally - most bookies had us below Yanited and the Jaudis at the start of the season. That seems to have been corrected. I get why they still have Chelsea as favourites to finish above us (given their spending), but Spudz?
Arsenal 1/20
City 1/6
Liverpool 1/7
Chelsea 8/13
Spurs 5/2
Villa 7/2
Newcastle 5/1
United 6/1
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I will be watching this in Spain with a MU "supporter". Please please win this one Villa. Last season when we beat City 1-0 at VP we thought we had peaked then went on to beat Arsenal three days later. Now we've beaten Bayern 1-0 can we repeat it? I reckon we can. I'll go for a 1-0 to the Villa.
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Martinez
Digne
Pau
Carlos
Konsa
Morgan
Onana
Barkley
Philogene
Tielemans
Watkins
Possibly go with this, only alternative really is Tielemans in his normal role and Beundia behind Ollie, might be a big ask for Beundia though, considering his lack of football.
Personally, I’d have Barkley’s fresh legs alongside Tielemans in the middle. But Unai seems determined to start Onana come what may, so that doesn't seem likely in the immediate.
Assuming JJ is out, I’d have Rogers on the left. Though Philogene executed the plan very well Weds, I still wasn’t totally bowled over by his “footballing” performance (still a bit lightweight, tendency to lose his footing, stuff like that), plus fatigue, so another start would be a big ask. Maybe Cash up the right? Could Barkley play there, with Onana in the middle? We’re a bit light in the midfield spots, I’m slightly surprised to find.
60 minutes for Buendia alongside Ollie.
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I think a lot of fans have a pessimistic view of this fixture given our atrocious record over the last 40 years and, I include myself in that.
It's time to put this hoodoo to bed.
Definitely, despite the current dread feeling in the pit of my stomach! :'(
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A win would be great for the table now. Put some distance between us and Newcastle again. Worst case scenario, I think, is we go into the break in 6th, 3 points behind Chelsea in 4th.
Good point. Looks so far like Chelsea are pushing hard to join up with last year’s top 4 (though remains to be seen how Maresca responds to adversity). So keeping pace with them is a must. With our CL performances, there will hopefully be 5 CL places this year, so the Chelsea resurgence is not likely to be existential for our plan.
The fact Chelsea have been able to name practically 2 spectate squads for the league and their European campaign gives them a big advantage, if it stays tight between us.
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It's about time we gave this lot a pasting, they always seem to be able to get a result against us. With our injuries I don't see it being today unfortunately. I'd be delighted with a boring 1:0 win, we are going to have a few tired legs 2nd half after the effort put in on Wednesday.
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Thought I'd have a look if there's any pieces today with the game coming up, nothing about the Champions League pace setting him team but plenty to go through on both the beeb and the Guardian if you happen to support the mid-table, also-ran visitors.
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I think a lot of fans have a pessimistic view of this fixture given our atrocious record over the last 40 years and, I include myself in that.
It's time to put this hoodoo to bed.
We did in Unai's first game. Now it's another 25 years of crap results against them.
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It's about time we gave this lot a pasting, they always seem to be able to get a result against us. With our injuries I don't see it being today unfortunately. I'd be delighted with a boring 1:0 win, we are going to have a few tired legs 2nd half after the effort put in on Wednesday.
I don't think tiredness can be an excuse today. Man United have had a days less rest and had to travel.
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I'd worry more about the mental recovery than the physical. Doubt there'll be many changes to the lineup, other than injury enforced ones, and even then the replacements played on Wednesday too. We could carry the momentum and smash them, or we could be mentally drained and have a nightmare.
I see Maguire calling for the players to take responsibility and start delivering consistently and to basically save ETHs job. Hopefully they don't actually want to save his job. (Maguire does mention VP being a great place to go to play a game though, so he gets points for that)
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Thought I'd have a look if there's any pieces today with the game coming up, nothing about the Champions League pace setting him team but plenty to go through on both the beeb and the Guardian if you happen to support the mid-table, also-ran visitors.
Noticed that as well, Lee. Was looking forward to a few in-depth analysis or feel-good player articles, but zip. Plenty about Yanited (and fair enough, with a sacking looming), but thought we’d be decent box office this weekend.
Wonder if that has something to do with Unai’s generally media shy approach though, as much as the media being disinterested?
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Well it would be for him because we normally gift them 3 points!
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Trains cancelled all over the shop today. Fucking shite system.
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Past results against this lot mean nothing now.
If Man U play at their very best level, which they do occasionally, then we need to play to our usually good levels to win.
If we play to anywhere near our best, it's a demolition job they can't live with whatever they do.
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Thought I'd have a look if there's any pieces today with the game coming up, nothing about the Champions League pace setting him team but plenty to go through on both the beeb and the Guardian if you happen to support the mid-table, also-ran visitors.
Noticed that as well, Lee. Was looking forward to a few in-depth analysis or feel-good player articles, but zip. Plenty about Yanited (and fair enough, with a sacking looming), but thought we’d be decent box office this weekend.
Wonder if that has something to do with Unai’s generally media shy approach though, as much as the media being disinterested?
I feel like there was an awful lot of coverage of us post Wednesday night, so it's possible they've just ran out of things to say about us. TenHag being on the brink of being sacked is the angle they're all running with this weekend. If we win or lose the story will still be about him/them. It's just how the media works. For every Man U fan who will click on a story about them, there's 20 fans of every other team who'll click on it to laugh at them.
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I'd worry more about the mental recovery than the physical. Doubt there'll be many changes to the lineup, other than injury enforced ones, and even then the replacements played on Wednesday too. We could carry the momentum and smash them, or we could be mentally drained and have a nightmare.
I see Maguire calling for the players to take responsibility and start delivering consistently and to basically save ETHs job. Hopefully they don't actually want to save his job. (Maguire does mention VP being a great place to go to play a game though, so he gets points for that)
It's great for them because they usually win.
Personally, I'd prefer it if Slabhead, Gary Neville and the rest hated VP because it was such a tough place to get a result.
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McGinn missing and doubts over Onana, Bailey and JJ on top of the more longstanding injuries.
We usually play these spawny fuckers at the worst time and this seems no different.
I'd take the draw and hope it gives Ten Haag more time to oversee his master plan...though if a defeat for the Red Mancs sees Gareth Southgate parachuted in we should go flat out.
We're a top team, they're midtable. Why should any fan be happy to take the draw?
We need to think like a top team because we are a top team. The days of shit Villa are long gone. Any other top 6 team would not be happy with a draw against these at home, and neither should we be.
Anything other than a win is two points dropped, even with our injuries.
I think the draw at Ipswich means a win today would be good, just to keep us in the pack in the top four going into the international break.
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Despite how shit they are with their manager on the verge of the sack, if they win they're only 3 points behind us, and we've played 5 of the bottom 9. I guess you could argue those teams are in the bottom 9 because we've beaten them and it's early in the season.
They seem to pull out a result when they need it which just keeps them ticking along. Maybe good for us in the long run this season because I can't see Ten Hag finishing above Emery.
I hate this game though.
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Villa 2 (Tony Scott, Lew Chatterley) Man U 1 (Herd)
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McGinn missing and doubts over Onana, Bailey and JJ on top of the more longstanding injuries.
We usually play these spawny fuckers at the worst time and this seems no different.
I'd take the draw and hope it gives Ten Haag more time to oversee his master plan...though if a defeat for the Red Mancs sees Gareth Southgate parachuted in we should go flat out.
We're a top team, they're midtable. Why should any fan be happy to take the draw?
We need to think like a top team because we are a top team. The days of shit Villa are long gone. Any other top 6 team would not be happy with a draw against these at home, and neither should we be.
Anything other than a win is two points dropped, even with our injuries.
I think the draw at Ipswich means a win today would be good, just to keep us in the pack in the top four going into the international break.
Surely a win today would be good, regardless of what the resut at Ipswich was? I can't really think of a reason why anything other than a win would be good.
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As long as Van Nistelrooy can’t come off the bench we should just be treating this as any other fixture. They’re a mid table team at present, like a Fulham. We shouldn’t be making them to be anything beyond that.
Wouldn't be suprised if hw was named as one and came on scored. That horseface fuck use to always screw us
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McGinn missing and doubts over Onana, Bailey and JJ on top of the more longstanding injuries.
We usually play these spawny fuckers at the worst time and this seems no different.
I'd take the draw and hope it gives Ten Haag more time to oversee his master plan...though if a defeat for the Red Mancs sees Gareth Southgate parachuted in we should go flat out.
We're a top team, they're midtable. Why should any fan be happy to take the draw?
We need to think like a top team because we are a top team. The days of shit Villa are long gone. Any other top 6 team would not be happy with a draw against these at home, and neither should we be.
Anything other than a win is two points dropped, even with our injuries.
I think the draw at Ipswich means a win today would be good, just to keep us in the pack in the top four going into the international break.
Surely a win today would be good, regardless of what the resut at Ipswich was? I can't really think of a reason why anything other than a win would be good.
Of course, but if we have genuine designs of finishing in the top four again this season, then results like the one at Ipswich are a bit of a set back and therefore makes winning the next game a bit more important.
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No onana ffs
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Wasn't expecting to see Onana after the way he was carrying himself on Wednesday, didn't look great