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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave P on December 03, 2023, 05:30:51 PM
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Our toughest home game of the season and one that will really test the winning run.
Rodri is suspended and we’ll take any advantage we can.
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Easiest win of the season for us, 4-0.
Has BE started the post-match thread yet ?
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I am probably not the only one who is worried that this is the game where our high line chickens really come home to roost. Though we do seem to give them a right good game at home recently, especially under the lights.
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3-1 to the good guys
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Based on how our season has gone so far we'll probably walk these next two games and then go to Brentford and get spanked.
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2-2
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Rodri is suspended. A big loss to their midfield. I'm going 2-1 to Villa. Wolves beat this lot so anything is possible...
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Based on how our season has gone so far we'll probably walk these next two games and then go to Brentford and get spanked.
Yes that would be classic Villa
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JG out too. I wonder if Doku’s injury will keep him out too.
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Wouldn’t surprise me if we attack the Holte first half to get off to a flier!
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Kalvin Phillips might actually get a game at this rate.
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0-2.
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Rodri being out is potentially huge.
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No Ratboy, either.
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Man City have conceded 9 in their last 4, so far. They are far from invincible.
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Make that 10.
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Statement win 2-1 - another late Ollie winner coming from 1 down.
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I’m hoping our performance today results in a much needed kick up the backside. If kick is delivered with Emeryesque aplomb accompanied by a fervent B6, a draw isn’t beyond the realms.
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Really hope I’m wrong but I’m thinking 0-2. Where others have failed to take advantage, city probably will.
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I’m hoping our performance today results in a much needed kick up the backside. If kick is delivered with Emeryesque aplomb accompanied by a fervent B6, a draw isn’t beyond the realms.
Why do we need a much needed kick up the backside? That implies we’ve been playing badly for a while?
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I’m hoping our performance today results in a much needed kick up the backside. If kick is delivered with Emeryesque aplomb accompanied by a fervent B6, a draw isn’t beyond the realms.
A draw isn’t “beyond the realms”? Blimey, settle down.
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It's over 10 years since we last beat them. 2 draws and 13 defeats.
This is easily the best equipped we have been to end that barren run.
They've shipped 8 goals in their last 3 games.
This season at home we are averaging 3.75 goals per game.
We don't need them to have an off night, if we are on our game we should win irrespective of what they do.
Not going into this with hope, but with expectation.
UTV
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No Ratboy, either.
He plays for Utd
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1-0 Bent
One of his 11 touches finds the net
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No Ratboy, either.
He plays for Utd
I think you know who Legion is talking about.
Why is greasy Joe out?
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No Ratboy, either.
He plays for Utd
I think you know who Legion is talking about.
Why is greasy Joe out?
Picked up his 5th booking today.
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Ratboy has a suspension after being booked today.
Hopefully VP is hostile.
I think we'll win here. I truly do.
It should be hostile as fuck for the visiting team and fans. They're a stain on English football and need to realise this.
3-1 Villa, FTF 8)
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No Ratboy, either.
He plays for Utd
I think you know who Legion is talking about.
Why is greasy Joe out?
Grealish is suspended , since when was he called Ratboy ?
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No Ratboy, either.
He plays for Utd
I think you know who Legion is talking about.
Why is greasy Joe out?
Grealish is suspended , since when was he called Ratboy ?
Since the day he left.
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Ah, ok.
Cheers chaps. Will have to put away my virtual cabbages now.
Tim, I think the Ratboy name is from here? At least in his thread title, anyway.
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Ah, ok.
Cheers chaps. Will have to put away my virtual cabbages now.
Tim, I think the Ratboy name is from here? At least in his thread title, anyway.
Hi Axl , I was furious when he left , fuming couldn't even look at him in their kit etc , plus some of the stuff he said etc , but he's just dense not the brightest .
I'm not sure he's a rat , maybe he is , we have improved ten fold since he left so I'm not that bothered anymore
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Martinez, Cash, Konsa, Torres, Moreno, Kamara, Luiz, McGinn, Ramsey, Diaby, Watkins ....we'll give them a fair old game with our best X1
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That's really harsh on Digne.
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That's really harsh on Digne.
Digne will start .
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This’ll be tough (obviously). They’ll be pissed off after their game, our intensity is going to need to be right there. Last two games we’ve gifted two terrible goals, we can’t do that against Citeh.
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The villa fans in the ground have a massive part to play in this game. If they believe we can win it, our players will believe they can win it.
Unai often talks about the 'connection' with the fans. This is the ultimate test.
Scream your heads off folks. Our 12th player.
3-2 to the Villa.
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It will be interesting to see what tactics Unai uses against City
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Don’t think we’ll get a better chance of beating Citeh and the Arse than now. Yes, I’m feeling confident.
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Konsa will get destroyed by Doku if Emery selects him at right back again. It will take Cash, Konsa and McGinn to keep him quiet on Wednesday.
Apart from Haaland, Doku is the biggest threat for me. 1-1.
Martinez
Cash, Konsa, Torres, Digne,
Kamara
McGinn, Luiz, Ramsey/Tielemans
Diaby
Watkins
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Lets hope he is injured then. He was definitely limping when he came off.
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2-1 to the Villa. Off you trot Citeh!
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2-1 to the Villa. Off you trot Citeh!
That would be very nice!
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I hope we dispatch them with the style, finesse and minimum of bother that we did when Brighton came calling. Glad that Greasy will be banned, as at least we'll be spared the sight of him giving it the big one. Let's get into them right from the off. 4-1, Luiz to get the first with Watkins, Bailey and Ramsey all getting in on the action.
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So do we think Joe Rat deliberately got booked so he'd miss a nice warm welcome on his homecoming again?
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I hope we dispatch them with the style, finesse and minimum of bother that we did when Brighton came calling. Glad that Greasy will be banned, as at least we'll be spared the sight of him giving it the big one. Let's get into them right from the off. 4-1, Luiz to get the first with Watkins, Bailey and Ramsey all getting in on the action.
I'd settle for 2-1 with a late, extremely dodgy penalty.
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So do we think Joe Rat deliberately got booked so he'd miss a nice warm welcome on his homecoming again?
No, it was stupid, not strategic.
Which sums him up really.
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I hope we dispatch them with the style, finesse and minimum of bother that we did when Brighton came calling. Glad that Greasy will be banned, as at least we'll be spared the sight of him giving it the big one. Let's get into them right from the off. 4-1, Luiz to get the first with Watkins, Bailey and Ramsey all getting in on the action.
I'd settle for 2-1 with a late, extremely dodgy penalty.
Or the ref playing on and giving us advantage!!
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Bloody Haaland is going to be right up for this.
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Draw.
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Martinez, Cash, Konsa, Torres, Moreno, Kamara, Luiz, McGinn, Ramsey, Diaby, Watkins ....we'll give them a fair old game with our best X1
That’s a good line up.
Need to blow them away in the first 20 minutes.
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Martinez, Cash, Konsa, Torres, Moreno, Kamara, Luiz, McGinn, Ramsey, Diaby, Watkins ....we'll give them a fair old game with our best X1
Agree apart from Ramsey who looked at best rusty on Sunday, I’d start Tielemans myself in that position.
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Bloody Haaland is going to be right up for this.
Probably clickbate, though some reports online that he will be sanctioned for kicking off at the end of the game versus Spurzzz - resulting in a ban for either the game against us on Wednesday or Luton at the weekend.
Obviously for him to miss the trip to VP would be a big bonus. UTV.
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Martinez, Cash, Konsa, Torres, Moreno, Kamara, Luiz, McGinn, Ramsey, Diaby, Watkins ....we'll give them a fair old game with our best X1
Agree apart from Ramsey who looked at best rusty on Sunday, I’d start Tielemans myself in that position.
Yeah possibly, Tielemans better as a 10 I think like when he came on v Spurs. Both of them were poor at the weekend. Ramsey to use horsey parlance is likely to come on for the run at the weekend. Kyle Walker's pace seems to be fading from watching him at the weekend and I think we can get joy on that flank.
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I could be wrong but I think the last time Rodri was out for them Halaand looked average. So he can be up for it all he wants, if nobody is servicing him he's not going to do much.
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I could be wrong but I think the last time Rodri was out for them Halaand looked average. So he can be up for it all he wants, if nobody is servicing him he's not going to do much.
Rodri missed the game when Wolves beat them.
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It's nice to actually want to attend a game against this lot rather than trying to find an excuse to get out of it. Even with some players out and a bit of a dodgy patch they are formidable opposition but then so are we these days. All our players need to be bang at it and if the Manager puts Konsa at RB I'm going to turn my back until he puts Cash on!
Home advantage, under the lights and a full house will always help. Time to put a another shit run to bed.
1-0
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Konsa will get destroyed by Doku if Emery selects him at right back again. It will take Cash, Konsa and McGinn to keep him quiet on Wednesday.
Apart from Haaland, Doku is the biggest threat for me. 1-1.
Martinez
Cash, Konsa, Torres, Digne,
Kamara
McGinn, Luiz, Ramsey/Tielemans
Diaby
Watkins
Has Emery not played Cash at RB at home? I think there will be a more traditional set up
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I could be wrong but I think the last time Rodri was out for them Halaand looked average. So he can be up for it all he wants, if nobody is servicing him he's not going to do much.
Rodri missed the game when Wolves beat them.
Rodri is the engine of the team
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There's a massive difference without Rodri, he's the one player whose absence hits them more than any other.
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Man City will feel they've been sinned against (the irony of it). Will the ref have a thought in his head they need favourable decisions to balance things up?
I also noticed that once the decision didn't go their way they took on the image of ManU throughout the 90s, surrounding the ref and taking it in turn to chew him out. Are they a bit rattled? Can we exploit it?
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Man City will feel they've been sinned against (the irony of it). Will the ref have a thought in his head they need favourable decisions to balance things up?
I also noticed that once the decision didn't go their way they took on the image of ManU throughout the 90s, surrounding the ref and taking it in turn to chew him out. Are they a bit rattled? Can we exploit it?
In fairness any team that had been subject to that decision would have gone mad. One of the worst I can remember (not related to VAR)...
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Man City will feel they've been sinned against (the irony of it). Will the ref have a thought in his head they need favourable decisions to balance things up?
I also noticed that once the decision didn't go their way they took on the image of ManU throughout the 90s, surrounding the ref and taking it in turn to chew him out. Are they a bit rattled? Can we exploit it?
In fairness any team that had been subject to that decision would have gone mad. One of the worst I can remember (not related to VAR)...
I'm not convinced we would have, nor our manager.
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Man City will feel they've been sinned against (the irony of it). Will the ref have a thought in his head they need favourable decisions to balance things up?
I also noticed that once the decision didn't go their way they took on the image of ManU throughout the 90s, surrounding the ref and taking it in turn to chew him out. Are they a bit rattled? Can we exploit it?
In fairness any team that had been subject to that decision would have gone mad. One of the worst I can remember (not related to VAR)...
I'm not convinced we would have, nor our manager.
Agree, not only that, it's only the captain that's supposed to be doing the discussing, that's the rule, there should be retrospective bookings dished out.
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I would look to use Moreno in this - if nothing else him pushing forward hopefully would negate any surging runs up the wing by Walker which are always dangerous.
We have to take our game to them - give them no respect and rattle a few of them early on.
I think their real danger is Foden as he is a real hand ful
Come on Villa
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There's a massive difference without Rodri, he's the one player whose absence hits them more than any other.
Yep, he's a tremendous player. He was comfortably the best player on the pitch for their home semi final last season for example. I wonder if he fancies coming here and playing for a big club?
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There's a massive difference without Rodri, he's the one player whose absence hits them more than any other.
very arguably a top 5 player in the world today
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Luckily we won't be starting with a right flank consisting of Konsa and Bailey for this one, as Doku would have an absolute field day.
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Man City will feel they've been sinned against (the irony of it). Will the ref have a thought in his head they need favourable decisions to balance things up?
I also noticed that once the decision didn't go their way they took on the image of ManU throughout the 90s, surrounding the ref and taking it in turn to chew him out. Are they a bit rattled? Can we exploit it?
In fairness any team that had been subject to that decision would have gone mad. One of the worst I can remember (not related to VAR)...
Agree it was a scandalous decision and very weird
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Is Ramsey ready to return, looked very rusty yesterday
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Daring to believe we might get something from this. They're on about as bad a run as they ever are and we're an unstoppable force at home.
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Reckon we'll win one and lose one of the next two. Annoyed City will be playing Sunday.
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Just had a read of the Blue Moon message board. Lots of praise for the Villa. They don't fancy City's chances without Rodri and possibly Doku.
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Last time Rodri was suspended for 3 games the Manc twats lost all 3, he’s a huge miss for them.
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I’m going to be bold and say
If we mess about at the back with Konsa as RB and Carlos in the middle or even worse play a back 3 then I think we will lose
If we go with the team he normally plays at home Konsa and Pao as the pair and the 2 full backs i think we will win
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We'll go 442. A normal 442. We'll win. 14 on the fucking bounce, and legend status beckons.
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Fancy both teams scoring as both defences are seemingly susceptible. Can we out score them? Tough one to call this - a draw wouldn’t be a bad result at all.
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I worry that the narrative is definitely shifting in our favour. Citeh are still a ridiculously strong side, we are going to have to be at our absolute best.
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As good as we’ve been for just over a year now, we are still at times learning and we need a game with no mistakes as they will punish us as Bissouma discovered. We do seem to give away chances from this or from not being totally switched on from the off.
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Carlos has to be dropped, Tielemans in for Zaniolo assuming Ramsey isn't quite ready
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We'll win.
A classic VP night and will be the launchpad for our fantastic achievement at the end of the season.
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if we switch off as much as we can away from home, then we'll need to score a few to get something out of this.
Scoring a few at home? we can do that.
3-3 Draw
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Beat them and go above them . What an incentive
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Beat them and go above them . What an incentive
To be honest We'll win.
A classic VP night and will be the launchpad for our fantastic achievement at the end of the season.
We'll win.
A classic VP night and will be the launchpad for our fantastic achievement at the end of the season.
To be fair Smirker if your calls were right we’d have 42 points right now!
Edit - quoting went off piste.
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We'll give them a tough game & the place will be rocking. Provided we give nothing soft away, we've got a great chance of making it a night to remember.
For the first time in a long time we're in contention & if it's not to be this time, it won't be much longer. We've come a long way in 12 months & we've given them a game at Villa Park, even under Gerrard.
We need to make it hostile. Rodri missing is a huge benefit, apart from being an exceptionally good footballer, he's also key to stopping counter attacks & that's our best chance of winning the game.
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Is it on Sky ? Gutted I can't go as won't make KO from work , Sold it back to the club, they only cream 20% off the top which is nice of them. Will find a place to watch this one should be a nail biter
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Is it on Sky ? Gutted I can't go as won't make KO from work , Sold it back to the club, they only cream 20% off the top which is nice of them. Will find a place to watch this one should be a nail biter
Amazon Prime
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I worry that the narrative is definitely shifting in our favour. Citeh are still a ridiculously strong side, we are going to have to be at our absolute best.
This is my concern. Rodri suspended and their record without him is poor, they’ve also drawn the last 3 in the league. When was the last time they went 4 without winning?
I just hope we give them a game.
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Rodri is probably their most important player. Him being out presents a massive opportunity. Having a strong ref in this game is critical because of their rotational fouling. We’ll probably not get as many attacks as we’re use to at home so we need the ref to be strong and book their players when the inevitable starts happening.
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No Grealish is pretty big too, avoids all the sideshow circus that isn't important, Rodri missing is huge , McGinn can dominate that middle of the pitch now
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No Grealish is pretty big too, avoids all the sideshow circus that isn't important, Rodri missing is huge , McGinn can dominate that middle of the pitch now
Grealish has hardly played or at least started many games for them this season.
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A quick look on Blue Moon and they aren't overly confident.
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No Grealish is pretty big too, avoids all the sideshow circus that isn't important, Rodri missing is huge , McGinn can dominate that middle of the pitch now
He’s a bit part player for them at best. 1 goal and 1 assist this season in all comps speaks for itself. I actually think the sideshow can help generate the extra volume at VP when he inevitably does his i’m VTID routine.
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Beat them and go above them . What an incentive
To be honest We'll win.
A classic VP night and will be the launchpad for our fantastic achievement at the end of the season.
We'll win.
A classic VP night and will be the launchpad for our fantastic achievement at the end of the season.
To be fair Smirker if your calls were right we’d have 42 points right now!
Edit - quoting went off piste.
That's OK but I do truly believe it.
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Any update on Doku?
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I worry that the narrative is definitely shifting in our favour. Citeh are still a ridiculously strong side, we are going to have to be at our absolute best.
You and me, Paul. Watching the highlights of their Spurs game, their finishing was absolutely shocking. On another day they could have scored 10.
I hope Villa Park will be rocking. The players will be up for it but that little bit of extra support could go a long way. Let's hope we smash the cheating rats. Heart says 2-1 Villa. Head says 2-2 with them equalising in stopage time with a dodgy goal.b
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Think we'll get 1 point from the next two games so I've gone for a draw against Citeh. Anything more than a point I'll be pretty happy, 4 or more I'll be ecstatic. Beat Citeh with Dougie escaping a booking, and I may be more Smirker-like come Weds night. 8)
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Think we'll get 1 point from the next two games so I've gone for a draw against Citeh. Anything more than a point I'll be pretty happy, 4 or more I'll be ecstatic. Beat Citeh with Dougie escaping a booking, and I may be more Smirker-like come Weds night. 8)
We'll both be smirking at 10pm on Wednesday mate 8)
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They'll cheat and win.
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They have decided not to charge the Cyborg for screaming in the refs face fuck off or his subsequent X rant.
This is despite the supposed clampdown on ref abuse and previous charges against players.
This is the club that they have failed to bring any punishment for multiple breaches, It’s hard to imagine why people could think that there is corruption in the game.
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These kinds of games are maddening. We spend two or three days looking at all the reasons they're beatable, their forums look like Custer's Last Stand and they've got a key player suspended. Result: a three goal reverse, kicked off with a bullshit refereeing call that VAR goes mysteriously missing for.
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As a manager of my sons u11s footy team - this sends out a lovely message to be inspired by. And more worryingly for the parents as well
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Please win Villa vs these wankers...sadly not there due to work commitments.
1-0 Watkins.
UTV
The Doc
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As a manager of my sons u11s footy team - this sends out a lovely message to be inspired by. And more worryingly for the parents as well
Agree mate. No surprise that there is a shortage of referees out there at all levels.
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As a manager of my sons u11s footy team - this sends out a lovely message to be inspired by. And more worryingly for the parents as well
Agree mate. No surprise that there is a shortage of referees out there at all levels.
Yes absolutely , I also run an Under 11s team half of them Man City fans. They see that hissy fit , how is that acceptable in anyway ??
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These kinds of games are maddening. We spend two or three days looking at all the reasons they're beatable, their forums look like Custer's Last Stand and they've got a key player suspended. Result: a three goal reverse, kicked off with a bullshit refereeing call that VAR goes mysteriously missing for.
Absolutely this.
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They have decided not to charge the Cyborg for screaming in the refs face fuck off or his subsequent X rant.
This is despite the supposed clampdown on ref abuse and previous charges against players.
This is the club that they have failed to bring any punishment for multiple breaches, It’s hard to imagine why people could think that there is corruption in the game.
Yet the radio switchboards were jammed on Sunday with their fans claiming there is a conspiracy against them.
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They have decided not to charge the Cyborg for screaming in the refs face fuck off or his subsequent X rant.
This is despite the supposed clampdown on ref abuse and previous charges against players.
This is the club that they have failed to bring any punishment for multiple breaches, It’s hard to imagine why people could think that there is corruption in the game.
Yet the radio switchboards were jammed on Sunday with their fans claiming there is a conspiracy against them.
Citeh fans were all right back in the day. They were fervent but self deprecating and funny with it.
They are now the most self righteous entitled bunch of glory hunting soul less wankers imaginable.
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They have decided not to charge the Cyborg for screaming in the refs face fuck off or his subsequent X rant.
This is despite the supposed clampdown on ref abuse and previous charges against players.
This is the club that they have failed to bring any punishment for multiple breaches, It’s hard to imagine why people could think that there is corruption in the game.
Yet the radio switchboards were jammed on Sunday with their fans claiming there is a conspiracy against them.
Citeh fans were all right back in the day. They were fervent but self deprecating and funny with it.
They are now the most self righteous entitled bunch of glory hunting soul less wankers imaginable.
I despise them.
They're almost as bad as Liverpool fans. Which takes some doing.
I wish both clubs would go out of existence.
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To echo SUE tomorrow the crowd is so important to get up and at them. Thier fans at home is like a morgue so we need a real atmosphere.
Up for this from the start and get fucking into them.
We can do this.
footnote
I saw an advert for the premier league title chase and stuck my chest out when i saw 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', Arsenal, Ci£h and us
Beat these fuckers and we really start to be noticed.
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On their forum a few were saying if we win this and beat Arsenal we are serious contenders.
It really is important that everyone gets behind the team tomorrow. It's such a big opportunity.
I hope the fans inside the ground really make it hostile and vicious.
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Hostile and vicious is not really my style, but I will jolly well let those City boys know that I have a very low opinion of them and indeed their surreptitious cheating and darn right rude shenanigans towards the officials! I am feeling unnervingly optimistic for this one. UTV
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More confident in a result in this one than I was against Bournemouth at the weekend. We'll beat this lot, but I can see us running out of steam against Arsenal on Saturday.
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They’ve drawn their last three games - that doesn’t happen really, they’ll be right up for this. We are going to have to be pretty much perfect.
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I’m looking forward to it, not so much for the atmos or hoping we stuff them but let’s see how we match up against one of the teams likely to be in the hunt for the title. We’ve fluffed our lines a bit at times this season though generally been keeping the wins coming and it’s great to think we could go toe to toe with them.
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Possibly the biggest home game since Ipswich 1981
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Possibly the biggest home game since Ipswich 1981
Nah, Bradford in '88 and the Albion play off semi were bigger in different ways, but also the Man Utd/Arsenal double header at Christmas '89 when I think we were more seriously in the title race.
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Possibly the biggest home game since Ipswich 1981
Nah, Bradford in '88 and the Albion play off semi were bigger in different ways, but also the Man Utd/Arsenal double header at Christmas '89 when I think we were more seriously in the title race.
The big one that year was the Wimbledon home game but unfortunately Platt missed he penalty ...
The only comparable game to that I remember was Blackburn away on 93 (straight after the Coventry home draw).
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I seem to recall the away game at Yanited in 92/93 being pretty big. Staunton's screamer had me dreaming, and if we'd won that....
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i did say HOME game .
Mind you that Stoke game after Moscow was a big one too
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i did say HOME game .
Mind you that Stoke game after Moscow was a big one too
I know it's the law that whenever anyone mentions that Stoke match, we all talk about how fucking awful it felt, but even now years later, I can remember walking back to the Serpentine car park feeling as sick as a fucking parrot.
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i did say HOME game .
Mind you that Stoke game after Moscow was a big one too
I know it's the law that whenever anyone mentions that Stoke match, we all talk about how fucking awful it felt, but even now years later, I can remember walking back to the Serpentine car park feeling as sick as a fucking parrot.
Agreed, that for me was the most pivotal (negative) moment in recentish years.
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i did say HOME game .
Mind you that Stoke game after Moscow was a big one too
I know it's the law that whenever anyone mentions that Stoke match, we all talk about how fucking awful it felt, but even now years later, I can remember walking back to the Serpentine car park feeling as sick as a fucking parrot.
Agreed, that for me was the most pivotal (negative) moment in recentish years.
I can't remember, but I bet it was fucking brilliant on here the following few days after, mind.
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Felt like a Cov at home moment in 93. Not the absolute end of hope but the beginning of the end.
In saying that, even if we had seen out that game against Stoke and gone eight points clear, I still reckon we'd have gobbed it down the home straight.
No Laursen, and Man Citeh, Liverpool and Man U away all still to play. Plus Tottenham and Everton at home.
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The first leg European Cup semi final v Anderlecht in 1982 was fairly important.
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That game is why I could never fully take to Glenn Whelan. The Stoke game, obviously, not Anderlecht.
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i did say HOME game .
Mind you that Stoke game after Moscow was a big one too
I know it's the law that whenever anyone mentions that Stoke match, we all talk about how fucking awful it felt, but even now years later, I can remember walking back to the Serpentine car park feeling as sick as a fucking parrot.
Agreed, that for me was the most pivotal (negative) moment in recentish years.
I can't remember, but I bet it was fucking brilliant on here the following few days after, mind.
I can't remember either, but I think that you and I possibly weren't that complimentary about Mr O'Neill.
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Sadly, a year before this version of the website came into being it seems.
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don't watch many opposition pressers but Pep was very prickly with his answers and squirming in his seat today. Obviously shitting it :D
He said akanki, stones and ake can play in the rodri role. What I would say is are those guys as good as fouling without picking up bookings as Rhodri? who is the dirtiest player (under the radar fouls and niggles) I've seen. That famous liverpool match in the 70s was a night game in december wasn't it? I'm buzzing for this one!
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i did say HOME game .
Mind you that Stoke game after Moscow was a big one too
I know it's the law that whenever anyone mentions that Stoke match, we all talk about how fucking awful it felt, but even now years later, I can remember walking back to the Serpentine car park feeling as sick as a fucking parrot.
Agreed, that for me was the most pivotal (negative) moment in recentish years.
I can't remember, but I bet it was fucking brilliant on here the following few days after, mind.
I can't remember either, but I think that you and I possibly weren't that complimentary about Mr O'Neill.
Oh yeah, that bit I do remember ;-)
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That game is why I could never fully take to Glenn Whelan. The Stoke game, obviously, not Anderlecht.
But he paid back by missing the pen against Preston.
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Whelan - the book ends to our fall and rebirth.
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Based on how our season has gone so far we'll probably walk these next two games and then go to Brentford and get spanked.
Yes that would be classic Villa
I’d absolutely take that.
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Possibly the biggest home game since Ipswich 1981
Nah, Bradford in '88 and the Albion play off semi were bigger in different ways, but also the Man Utd/Arsenal double header at Christmas '89 when I think we were more seriously in the title race.
Agree with you on all those games Lee, all felt and were massive.
I’m more nervous about tomorrow now as it feels we can get something. I know Rodri is very important and thats a plus, i don’t actually think Grealish being out makes that much difference he’s played that little, can’t see him being there next season. However, as much as i dislike what they’ve become, they have some team, Haaland, Foden, Silva, Doku (bound to be fit), Walker, Dias etc etc. I think Arsenal are more beatable on Saturday.
But you never know, as others have said start fast like against Brighton and West Ham, don’t give away an early goal…..its the hope that kills and all that.
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It's a massive exaggeration to compare tomorrow to a 1981 game. Three points would be amazing but that's all it would be. There's such a long way to go.
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When the fixtures came out for the season I don't think any of us could have imagined we'd be going into Man City in December only 1 point behind them. (And it be at the top of the table, not them getting a points deduction)
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It's a massive exaggeration to compare tomorrow to a 1981 game. Three points would be amazing but that's all it would be. There's such a long way to go.
Agreed. Maybe our away games to Man C & Arsenal in April, and Liverpool at home in May will allow us to make 81 comparisons.
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I can't remember either, but I think that you and I possibly weren't that complimentary about Mr O'Neill.
It's quite possible, I seem to recall a season opener against Wigan when we were 1-0 down at half-time. You posted something like "MON, you c*nt" (possibly with a "F*ck off" before it). :)
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I think we were 2-0 down!
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In the unlikely event of us winning the next two games, it would be great for us but more likely to get us an open top bus parade around Liverpool.
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I can't remember either, but I think that you and I possibly weren't that complimentary about Mr O'Neill.
It's quite possible, I seem to recall a season opener against Wigan when we were 1-0 down at half-time. You posted something like "MON, you c*nt" (possibly with a "F*ck off" before it). :)
To be honest I was at that game and we were absolutely fucking useless, lost 2-0, lookeds like we’d been introduced in the car park beforehand and were an utter shambles, the very antithesis of the club motto Prepared and I was giving MON a very gratuitous round of fucks as well. I think it was topped off with a Rapid Vienna Europa League exit before or after as well so old pubehead couldn’t say he didn’t deserve it. The fact we then won 3-1 at Anfield the week after made me look a right idiot.
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Statement win.
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Beat Spurs, go above them.
Which sets up....
Beat Man City, go above them.
Which sets up....
Beat Arsenal, go above them.
Edit - never mind. As I was typing. Typical.
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Beat Spurs, go above them.
Which sets up....
Beat Man City, go above them.
Which sets up....
Beat Arsenal, go above them.
Edit - never mind. As I was typing. Typical.
As daft as it sounds I was thinking the same and feel deflated after that Arse winner.
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I'll still take the second one.
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I see a Man City win - They need it - and have 3 draws in a row.
Cue this is why there the best team in the world quotes in all media.
Would love it if we beat them though
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Bournemouth at the weekend and then Arsenal tonight show that smaller clubs can be a tough game and few nmatches are a gimme, so we need to be aware that Man City could give us a game.
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I can't remember either, but I think that you and I possibly weren't that complimentary about Mr O'Neill.
It's quite possible, I seem to recall a season opener against Wigan when we were 1-0 down at half-time. You posted something like "MON, you c*nt" (possibly with a "F*ck off" before it). :)
To be honest I was at that game and we were absolutely fucking useless, lost 2-0, lookeds like we’d been introduced in the car park beforehand and were an utter shambles, the very antithesis of the club motto Prepared and I was giving MON a very gratuitous round of fucks as well. I think it was topped off with a Rapid Vienna Europa League exit before or after as well so old pubehead couldn’t say he didn’t deserve it. The fact we then won 3-1 at Anfield the week after made me look a right idiot.
Nah, you didn't look an idiot. Our wins against the big boys under MON were inevitably built on set-pieces and counter-attacks with little control of possession. We rarely went toe to toe. Emery's way is where it's at.
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I can't remember either, but I think that you and I possibly weren't that complimentary about Mr O'Neill.
It's quite possible, I seem to recall a season opener against Wigan when we were 1-0 down at half-time. You posted something like "MON, you c*nt" (possibly with a "F*ck off" before it). :)
To be honest I was at that game and we were absolutely fucking useless, lost 2-0, lookeds like we’d been introduced in the car park beforehand and were an utter shambles, the very antithesis of the club motto Prepared and I was giving MON a very gratuitous round of fucks as well. I think it was topped off with a Rapid Vienna Europa League exit before or after as well so old pubehead couldn’t say he didn’t deserve it. The fact we then won 3-1 at Anfield the week after made me look a right idiot.
Seem to remember MON having a pop in the press at the fans after that Wigan game.
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Edit: Wrong thread, apologies!
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I can't remember either, but I think that you and I possibly weren't that complimentary about Mr O'Neill.
It's quite possible, I seem to recall a season opener against Wigan when we were 1-0 down at half-time. You posted something like "MON, you c*nt" (possibly with a "F*ck off" before it). :)
To be honest I was at that game and we were absolutely fucking useless, lost 2-0, lookeds like we’d been introduced in the car park beforehand and were an utter shambles, the very antithesis of the club motto Prepared and I was giving MON a very gratuitous round of fucks as well. I think it was topped off with a Rapid Vienna Europa League exit before or after as well so old pubehead couldn’t say he didn’t deserve it. The fact we then won 3-1 at Anfield the week after made me look a right idiot.
Seem to remember MON having a pop in the press at the fans after that Wigan game.
Such a thin-skinned twat. Recently on Talksport he was defending his record as manager at Forest and how his sacking has coloured his opinion of the club despite all his success there as a player.
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This forum is very positive about tonight, the blue moon forum is very negative, with many of their support feeling a defeat or draw at best coming..he who dares wins Rodders, he who dares wins
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And he who dares without Rodri, loses, Rodders ;)
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It's nice that we seem to be starting to be seen as a genuine threat now - maybe not title contenders, but a team that's a serious threat to the upper echelons of the Premier League.
Whatever happens tonight, and for the rest of this season, Emery has worked miracles. Genuinely feel like even if it all goes to pot this season, over the next couple of years we'll become a very serious force indeed.
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attack them down the right wing. They are vulnerable
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This forum is very positive about tonight, the blue moon forum is very negative, with many of their support feeling a defeat or draw at best coming..he who dares wins Rodders, he who dares wins
It’s alarmingly similar to the Newcastle and Liverpool games. Still hopefully the home support makes the difference.
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Cant stand them
Cant stand 'Pep' and his billions , Id have more respect for him If he took over Sheff Utd and kept them up.
Come on villa, my weeks been shite and this would give me a massive lift . Lets do this.
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Amazed at the prices for this, 7-2 Villa. That’s a 22.2% chance of winning, so more like 20% if you take off the bookies over round.
I think that underestimates our chances of winning and is therefore a great bet.
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I hope we get an added time winner that's such a shocker of a decision they have to change the rules. Let's see how the babbies like it.
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I wonder if we'll keep up our record of at least 3 goals at home? Last time we didn't score 3, we had a lap of honour afterwards.
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Attack the Holte first half!
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Amazed at the prices for this, 7-2 Villa. That’s a 22.2% chance of winning, so more like 20% if you take off the bookies over round.
I think that underestimates our chances of winning and is therefore a great bet.
It’s funny because I think the confidence on here has massively veered the other way - and that’s not meant as a criticism, I’m just far too pessimistic! I think the reality is they should be slight favourites. Our home form, and their recent form, makes it more level. But they’re still European Champions, have a very strong side even with injuries/suspensions, and if we win it’ll be a massive achievement.
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Indeed. We'll be two down inside 15 minutes. I hate it when we get good press.
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The difference tonight is that we are approaching the game with the ability to at least compete but even at that we could still get humped by 4 goals, they are still a very good side.
The confidence for me comes from the fact that defeat is likely rather than a foregone conclusion, and that's how the bookies see it.
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Indeed. We'll be two down inside 15 minutes. I hate it when we get good press.
But conversely, love it when we press good!
#WorkHardHardlyWorking
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Attack the Holte first half!
Im a holte ender, no thanks, Brighton worked well the other way round as dod West Ham, Fulham etc etc
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We will get chances - we need to make sure we take them. Be wasteful and they will beat us.
I would put Konsa directly on the android and go all out attack. I would also put a "reducer" on Foden as he is a real danger
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hatchet man Cash can "mark" Foden
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This forum is very positive about tonight, the blue moon forum is very negative, with many of their support feeling a defeat or draw at best coming..he who dares wins Rodders, he who dares wins
This is correct.
COYVB. I want to be as kind and magnanimous in victory as the Citeh-loving Stockport side of my family are to me when they win.
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I've seen quite a lot of commentators talking about the next two games telling us more about where we're at as a team (than previous results do). I get that, but I'm not sure I actually agree with it. We got beat up at Newcastle results wise and at Liverpool performance wise. But we're 4th. If we don't win the game tonight it won't mean we've been 'found out' etc.
I liked Emery's press conference when he talked about the game being just another chance at 3 points, out of the 60-70 odd points that would see us qualify for some kind of European football. That's the way we need to approach every game from now on. So called 'statement wins' only get your 3 points and you need to back them up with another 3 points. There is a long way to go this season and there will be some twists and turns.
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It's the first Villa v Man City game I've been mildly looking forward to for a long long time too.
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attack them down the right wing. They are vulnerable
Our Labour Party correspondent writes.
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Team selection is critical tonight. Think Emery has a real opportunity to start the likes of Ramsey and Moreno and get fresh legs into a team that looked a bit flat last weekend. Konsa at RB is just asking for trouble, he won't be I'm pretty sure. Kamara back in too.
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This has the feeling of a statement game for us. We're on the rise, have a settled team and have been great at home all season against a Man City team who look vulnerable defensively and have some key players out.
This will tell us a lot about us and I can't wait for it. We need to get behind the boys and give them the best lift we can.
I genuinely don't know what the score is going to be but I reckon both teams will score at least twice and that it is going to be one hell of a game.
Come on you Villa boys!
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I went on their Pravda to see if Pep was wanking lyrical about Unai. All I got was a Memories article with a long piece on a day in the life of David White the Spring evening he hit Villa for 4 and his team 5, at Villa Park in 1991. He does concede that us giving young Andy Comyn* a game at the back de-stabilised us with God having to play further forward in midfield.
*(He's at Dudley College now, Head of Finance)
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I think we're more than capable of beating anyone at home, even Man City at full strength. The fact they're missing key players is a plus for us, as is the fact they're more likely to try and play against us, rather than sitting back trying to defend. We saw how that went for Brighton.
I have no idea what the actual result will be but as others have said it's the first time in a long time I'm looking forward to this fixture, and the outcome isn't a forgone conclusion.
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I can't remember either, but I think that you and I possibly weren't that complimentary about Mr O'Neill.
It's quite possible, I seem to recall a season opener against Wigan when we were 1-0 down at half-time. You posted something like "MON, you c*nt" (possibly with a "F*ck off" before it). :)
To be honest I was at that game and we were absolutely fucking useless, lost 2-0, lookeds like we’d been introduced in the car park beforehand and were an utter shambles, the very antithesis of the club motto Prepared and I was giving MON a very gratuitous round of fucks as well.
I was following it online, and I don't recall the aftermath. I think the comment stuck with me because it was only 45 mins into the new season, and we were only a goal down.
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Bailey in for Diaby , didn't think i'd be saying that but Bailey is in some form
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I hope the weather's better in Brum than here or it won't be pleasant at the game. Teeming rain with an east wind that would cut you in two.
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I hope the weather's better in Brum than here or it won't be pleasant at the game. Teeming rain with an east wind that would cut you in two.
clear blue skies here , but it is cold 2c
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I hope the weather's better in Brum than here or it won't be pleasant at the game. Teeming rain with an east wind that would cut you in two.
I'll raise you 4 inches snow and -2
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I hope the weather's better in Brum than here or it won't be pleasant at the game. Teeming rain with an east wind that would cut you in two.
I'll raise you 4 inches snow and -2
I'd much prefer that. Love snow and frost but hate rain, especially when it's driven by a bitterly cold wind.
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I hope the weather's better in Brum than here or it won't be pleasant at the game. Teeming rain with an east wind that would cut you in two.
I'll raise you 4 inches snow and -2
I'd much prefer that. Love snow and frost but hate rain, especially when it's driven by a bitterly cold wind.
You and me both there fella
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It's dry, still but cold, about 2-3 C.
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3-1 Statement Win.
Going to be a fantastic atmosphere and Villa players and support alike are super up for it. It's time El Mastero beat Pep. They seem to be feeling the strain.
Villa:Watkins X2 , McGinn
Man City:Haaland.
Sending off: Stones.
I really wanna beat these more than any other team.
They are the equivalent to many people's man utd to me.
Cannot stand them.
Come on Villa!
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I've seen quite a lot of commentators talking about the next two games telling us more about where we're at as a team (than previous results do). I get that, but I'm not sure I actually agree with it. We got beat up at Newcastle results wise and at Liverpool performance wise. But we're 4th. If we don't win the game tonight it won't mean we've been 'found out' etc.
I liked Emery's press conference when he talked about the game being just another chance at 3 points, out of the 60-70 odd points that would see us qualify for some kind of European football. That's the way we need to approach every game from now on. So called 'statement wins' only get your 3 points and you need to back them up with another 3 points. There is a long way to go this season and there will be some twists and turns.
Agree totally with this. Whatever we do tonight, we're heading in the right direction and we're heading there quickly. Our season won't be defined by our results against Manc City, Liverpool, and Arsenal, it'll be with how we measure up against Spurs, Newton Heath, and Newcastle. Move ahead of them in the pecking order and we'll be in a very, very good place.
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Martin O'Neil is at Villa Park on analysis tonight.
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It will be very cold.
Let’s hope Zani ain’t starting.
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Bailey in for Diaby , didn't think i'd be saying that but Bailey is in some form
What insanity is this? Diaby didn’t start at the weekend to be fresh for this game. He’s either in for CZ or is Tielemans and Diaby either side of Watkins.
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I keep reading CZ as Charles N'Zogbia, even though it would be wrong, and coming out in a rash.
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I can see Bailey starting with Watkins with McGinn, Luiz, Kamara & Tielemans in midfield.
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Watch it if you're coming into Town. Navigation St shut by the red cage car park. No access to The Mailbox Car Park from the Queensway although that seems to be running OK. Backstreets around the back of the Mailbox are gridlocked though.
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Watch it if you're coming into Town. Navigation St shut by the red cage car park. No access to The Mailbox Car Park from the Queensway although that seems to be running OK. Backstreets around the back of the Mailbox are gridlocked though.
And of course the trains will be wank. They have been all week out of Birmingham.
I mean, even worse than the standard dog shit service.
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Hang on I'll just check.
Oh, the Live Departures page is down....
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Hang on I'll just check.
Oh, the Live Departures page is down....
Trains look ok at the moment.
Shock.
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Watch it if you're coming into Town. Navigation St shut by the red cage car park. No access to The Mailbox Car Park from the Queensway although that seems to be running OK. Backstreets around the back of the Mailbox are gridlocked though.
And of course the trains will be wank. They have been all week out of Birmingham.
I mean, even worse than the standard dog shit service.
overtime strike isn't it
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Met Office yellow alert for heavy rain in place from midnight but forecast shows downpours from 9pm tonight - in middle of Aston Villa v Manchester City
Source: Evil
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Watch it if you're coming into Town. Navigation St shut by the red cage car park. No access to The Mailbox Car Park from the Queensway although that seems to be running OK. Backstreets around the back of the Mailbox are gridlocked though.
And of course the trains will be wank. They have been all week out of Birmingham.
I mean, even worse than the standard dog shit service.
overtime strike isn't it
Yes. They can’t fulfil a normal service without overtime. Same as the bus
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Hope everyone will be ok travelling and being at the match. Well wishes.
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The rumour is this is Man City Line Up:
Ederson; Walker, Dias, Akanji, Gvardiol;
Stones, Lewis, Bernardo;
Alvarez, Haaland, Foden.
Very Beatable. Can dominate the midfield !
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The rumour is this is Man City Line Up:
Ederson; Walker, Dias, Akanji, Gvardiol;
Stones, Lewis, Bernardo;
Alvarez, Haaland, Foden.
Very Beatable. Can dominate the midfield !
Not sure I’d call that very beatable. But they can be beaten.
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Not sure that's a midfield either. Looks like all defenders and forwards.
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I think FV got it spot on?
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Hope this Konsa at RB thing works out
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3-1 Statement Win.
Going to be a fantastic atmosphere and Villa players and support alike are super up for it. It's time El Mastero beat Pep. They seem to be feeling the strain.
Villa:Watkins X2 , McGinn
Man City:Haaland.
Sending off: Stones.
I really wanna beat these more than any other team.
They are the equivalent to many people's man utd to me.
Cannot stand them.
Come on Villa!
Nice and positive!