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Title: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 06:45:26 PM
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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on November 30, 2023, 06:45:44 PM
Uh oh
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 06:46:06 PM
Mmmmmmm Olsen
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 06:46:24 PM
Solid team. Olsen will be fine. Very happy with that. Welcome back Alex Moreno. And hoping to see Jhonny D put in a great display.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on November 30, 2023, 06:46:34 PM
That just feels unnecessary.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on November 30, 2023, 06:46:35 PM
Wait.... no Watkins even on the bench?!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 06:48:21 PM
If the worst happens and we're trailing and/or JD gets crocked, will be interesting to see how we play up front. And by interesting I mean worrying.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on November 30, 2023, 06:49:14 PM
Daft question time… but what time is kick off? 8pm? Or 7:45? Just wondering as the teams are normally announced an hour in advance?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 06:50:01 PM
Daft question time… but what time is kick off? 8pm? Or 7:45? Just wondering as the teams are normally announced an hour in advance?

8pm
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 30, 2023, 06:52:14 PM
Please no injuries
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on November 30, 2023, 06:53:42 PM
Daft question time… but what time is kick off? 8pm? Or 7:45? Just wondering as the teams are normally announced an hour in advance?

8pm

Thank you very much. Thought it was… just had a moment of confusion.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: devilla on November 30, 2023, 06:54:09 PM
Wonder why Ollie isn't even on the bench?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Eckybloke on November 30, 2023, 06:54:49 PM
Daft question time… but what time is kick off? 8pm? Or 7:45? Just wondering as the teams are normally announced an hour in advance?

Gives us an extra 15 minutes to calm down after seeing Olsen starting.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on November 30, 2023, 06:54:58 PM
If the worst happens and we're trailing and/or JD gets crocked, will be interesting to see how we play up front. And by interesting I mean worrying.

Zaniolo comes on and scores a worldie.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 06:55:08 PM
Daft question time… but what time is kick off? 8pm? Or 7:45? Just wondering as the teams are normally announced an hour in advance?

8pm

Thank you very much. Thought it was… just had a moment of confusion.

For the European games we announce the team 75 mins before KO.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 06:55:21 PM
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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 30, 2023, 06:55:46 PM
Wonder why Ollie isn't even on the bench?

may have a bug
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Tony Daleys Shorts on November 30, 2023, 06:55:53 PM
Emi can’t play every game, so Olsen needs a start every now and then in case the unthinkable happens and Emi gets crocked.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 06:56:34 PM
Legia fans

https://twitter.com/LegionisciCom/status/1730297793216942246
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: LeonW on November 30, 2023, 06:56:43 PM
With this selection, Emery is taking an unnecessary risk. We don’t want those extra games in February. If Martinez is fit enough for the bench, he’s fit enough to play. If you want to rest him, leave him out of the squad.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 30, 2023, 06:59:58 PM
If we fuck this up it's on that poor team selection
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 07:00:12 PM
Players may have knocks we don't know about. But if they don't it seems a bit of a risk putting that side out tonight rather than going all out for the group win at home and then being able to field a weaker side in Bosnia.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on November 30, 2023, 07:00:49 PM
Solid team. Olsen will be fine. Very happy with that. Welcome back Alex Moreno. And hoping to see Jhonny D put in a great display.

This post has got the potential to age very badly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 30, 2023, 07:01:20 PM
Wonder why Ollie isn't even on the bench?

Might have picked up the cold that's going around from the WWWM crew, or Unai wants to give him a proper night off with 3 important games coming up. Hopefully, we'll find out after the game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 30, 2023, 07:02:38 PM
Legia fans

https://twitter.com/LegionisciCom/status/1730297793216942246

Pet Shop Boys fans too by the sound of them, the barsterds! Now I have Go West earworm.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on November 30, 2023, 07:04:29 PM
That’s a stronger team than I expected. Good to see Moreno back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 30, 2023, 07:05:10 PM
Legia fans

https://twitter.com/LegionisciCom/status/1730297793216942246

Pet Shop Boys fans too by the sound of them, the barsterds! Now I have Go West earworm.

Can't quite make out what they're singing, "Call that a Christmas festival"?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 30, 2023, 07:05:46 PM
Legia fans

https://twitter.com/LegionisciCom/status/1730297793216942246

Pet Shop Boys fans too by the sound of them, the barsterds! Now I have Go West earworm.

West End Poles.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Skerra on November 30, 2023, 07:07:13 PM
Don’t like the look of that team at all.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on November 30, 2023, 07:07:35 PM
This is a strong line up. I was expect McGinn to be rested. Big chance for Jhon.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Dave on November 30, 2023, 07:09:30 PM
Legia fans

https://twitter.com/LegionisciCom/status/1730297793216942246

Pet Shop Boys fans too by the sound of them, the barsterds! Now I have Go West earworm.

West End Poles.

Domino Gdansking.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 30, 2023, 07:09:40 PM
Must be a big WMP operation. https://twitter.com/cliffordstott/status/1730259656923025774
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on November 30, 2023, 07:10:46 PM
This should be erm… fun?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 07:13:26 PM
Police hosses

https://twitter.com/IAmMattRice/status/1730301788899684795

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: lovejoy on November 30, 2023, 07:13:57 PM
With this selection, Emery is taking an unnecessary risk. We don’t want those extra games in February. If Martinez is fit enough for the bench, he’s fit enough to play. If you want to rest him, leave him out of the squad.

Exactly this, if we are resting him, then rest him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 07:15:02 PM
Apparently the police still aren't letting Legia fans into the ground and have them waiting in the away car park.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 30, 2023, 07:16:00 PM
Legia fans

https://twitter.com/LegionisciCom/status/1730297793216942246

Pet Shop Boys fans too by the sound of them, the barsterds! Now I have Go West earworm.

West End Poles.

Domino Gdansking.

Marvellous.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on November 30, 2023, 07:16:05 PM
The Olsen hysteria isn't waning then I see
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: mrfuse on November 30, 2023, 07:16:12 PM
Bit of a weird team selection, I thought Bailey would be definitely starting.

I don't see the point of resting a goalkeeper and not Having Watkins in reserve.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on November 30, 2023, 07:16:47 PM
Wonder why Ollie isn't even on the bench?

Might have picked up the cold that's going around from the WWWM crew, or Unai wants to give him a proper night off with 3 important games coming up. Hopefully, we'll find out after the game.

I can't see Emery just giving him the night off. If he's not sick/injured he should be on the bench. Don't play him if we don't have to but it would be madness to just not have the option there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 30, 2023, 07:19:53 PM
Police hosses

https://twitter.com/IAmMattRice/status/1730301788899684795
Brother said last week they were bringing the horses in
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 07:21:51 PM
Solid team. Olsen will be fine. Very happy with that. Welcome back Alex Moreno. And hoping to see Jhonny D put in a great display.

This post has got the potential to age very badly.

Or cause needless mass hysteria.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 30, 2023, 07:21:52 PM
Hope the Ultras are enjoying the car park. Twats.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: DrGonzo on November 30, 2023, 07:22:05 PM
If the worst happens and we're trailing and/or JD gets crocked, will be interesting to see how we play up front. And by interesting I mean worrying.

Zaniolo comes on and scores a worldie.
Lol
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: usav on November 30, 2023, 07:22:17 PM
Back to back posts in here literally saying "weak selection", "stronger than I expected".  Maybe it just shows that we are pretty strong all around right now.

The only two questions I have is where the hell is Ollie and why Olsen now?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 07:23:12 PM
Police hosses

https://twitter.com/IAmMattRice/status/1730301788899684795



I was waiting to see if the police had hoses or horses. Turns out it was hosses.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 30, 2023, 07:23:12 PM
Police hosses

https://twitter.com/IAmMattRice/status/1730301788899684795
Brother said last week they were bringing the horses in

I'd imagine the police are using tonight more as a training exercise than anything else. By all accounts there's more police out tonight than any other game we've played possibly ever.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on November 30, 2023, 07:23:27 PM
Solid team. Olsen will be fine. Very happy with that. Welcome back Alex Moreno. And hoping to see Jhonny D put in a great display.

This post has got the potential to age very badly.

Or cause needless mass hysteria.

Martinez isn't going to start every match, even when fit. The levels of breakdown whenever olsen starts are kinda silly
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 30, 2023, 07:26:28 PM
Alkmaar are currently leading Mostar. AIUI that means that if it stays that way we are through as neither can overtake us. But we would still like to win tonight by two clear goals to ensure that we win the group and don't face a Europa League chuck out. So I would've gone for a stronger line up to night and then, if it all goes to plan, send the reserves out to the dead rubber in 2 weeks time
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 30, 2023, 07:27:06 PM
Two officers injured as they move their twat fans up
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 07:27:15 PM
Legia fans not overly happy

https://twitter.com/CharDuncker/status/1730306265551659340
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: LeonW on November 30, 2023, 07:27:38 PM
Solid team. Olsen will be fine. Very happy with that. Welcome back Alex Moreno. And hoping to see Jhonny D put in a great display.

This post has got the potential to age very badly.

Or cause needless mass hysteria.

Martinez isn't going to start every match, even when fit. The levels of breakdown whenever olsen starts are kinda silly

So if we have to play a load of extra games in February because Olsen drops a clanger and we chose to put Martinez on the bench, therefore finishing as runners up in the group, that won’t be kinda silly?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 07:28:33 PM
While an element of Legia fans are obviously twats, I do wonder how us, the city and WMP are planning on coping with 50k fans for tournament internationals when they seem to be struggling with less than 2k away fans.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on November 30, 2023, 07:31:19 PM
The only two questions I have is where the hell is Ollie and why Olsen now?

Someone posted during the week something like "we'll be fine as long as he doesn't play Olsen" and I thought to myself why on earth would anyone think we'd play Olsen now, when he hasn't featured in this competition at all?! But here we are.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on November 30, 2023, 07:31:21 PM
Solid team. Olsen will be fine. Very happy with that. Welcome back Alex Moreno. And hoping to see Jhonny D put in a great display.

This post has got the potential to age very badly.

Or cause needless mass hysteria.

Martinez isn't going to start every match, even when fit. The levels of breakdown whenever olsen starts are kinda silly

So if we have to play a load of extra games in February because Olsen drops a clanger and we chose to put Martinez on the bench, therefore finishing as runners up in the group, that won’t be kinda silly?

It's so so so boring lads, the same shit every time
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 30, 2023, 07:32:23 PM
Olsen.

Be fucking shocked if we keep a clean sheet.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 30, 2023, 07:32:28 PM
Haven't Legia not won a game in their last 5? I'm sure I'd heard something along the lines of 3 defeats and two draws in the Polish League.
I like throwing in a new face rather than a complete team change. It gives the player the chance to show what he can do with the big boys rather than the stiffs. Our midfield is strong tonight, let's see how Duran gets on with some good service over 90 minutes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on November 30, 2023, 07:33:26 PM
Olsen.

Be fucking shocked if we keep a clean sheet.

Do we ever keep a clean sheet? Even with Martinez.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2023, 07:34:02 PM
While an element of Legia fans are obviously twats, I do wonder how us, the city and WMP are planning on coping with 50k fans for tournament internationals when they seem to be struggling with less than 2k away fans.

Yeah, I have similar feelings. Not so much about the 50k thing, but about how we seem to be grabbing at the chance of going all 1980s again because some forrins are here for the match.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on November 30, 2023, 07:34:23 PM
Legia fans

https://twitter.com/LegionisciCom/status/1730297793216942246

Pact Shop Boys
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: LeonW on November 30, 2023, 07:36:04 PM
Solid team. Olsen will be fine. Very happy with that. Welcome back Alex Moreno. And hoping to see Jhonny D put in a great display.

This post has got the potential to age very badly.

Or cause needless mass hysteria.

Martinez isn't going to start every match, even when fit. The levels of breakdown whenever olsen starts are kinda silly

So if we have to play a load of extra games in February because Olsen drops a clanger and we chose to put Martinez on the bench, therefore finishing as runners up in the group, that won’t be kinda silly?

It's so so so boring lads, the same shit every time

Bizarre.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on November 30, 2023, 07:36:37 PM
Solid team. Olsen will be fine. Very happy with that. Welcome back Alex Moreno. And hoping to see Jhonny D put in a great display.

This post has got the potential to age very badly.

Or cause needless mass hysteria.

Mass hysteria?  Can't say I saw scenes of mass panic on the streets of Witton on the walk down to the ground.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on November 30, 2023, 07:37:41 PM
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Legia fans not overly happy

https://twitter.com/CharDuncker/status/1730306265551659340

Still not in the ground.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2023, 07:39:19 PM
Legia fans

https://twitter.com/LegionisciCom/status/1730297793216942246

Pet Shop Boys fans too by the sound of them, the barsterds! Now I have Go West earworm.

West End Poles.

Domino Gdansking.

Lech Make Lots of Money.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 07:39:20 PM
https://twitter.com/CharDuncker/status/1730308155597353202
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on November 30, 2023, 07:39:46 PM
I’ve never been sure about that old adage of if you treat people like animals; they’ll behave like them. Guess we might find out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 30, 2023, 07:42:40 PM
Legia fans not overly happy

https://twitter.com/CharDuncker/status/1730306265551659340

What have they, what have they done to deserve this?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 07:42:56 PM
The current police posture causes hostility but it’s also what comes from a supporter group that gains that reputation. Police can inflame the situation but they will also be panned by fans and the media of anything happens that could have been avoided. And it’s always a minority that ruins it for the majority.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on November 30, 2023, 07:43:39 PM
Legia fans

https://twitter.com/LegionisciCom/status/1730297793216942246

Pact Shop Boys

A Man Could Get Arrested

(Deep-cut, may have been the b-side to West End Girls. I should know really, they were top of my Spotify Unwrapped).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: lovejoy on November 30, 2023, 07:44:30 PM
I’ve never been sure about that old adage of if you treat people like animals; they’ll behave like them. Guess we might find out.

I was thinking the same. Not sure kettling people if they’ve done nothing wrong will work out in the long run, it just rules people.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Dave on November 30, 2023, 07:46:18 PM
Legia fans

https://twitter.com/LegionisciCom/status/1730297793216942246

Pet Shop Boys fans too by the sound of them, the barsterds! Now I have Go West earworm.

West End Poles.

Domino Gdansking.

Lech Make Lots of Money.

Lodz of Money was there for the taking.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 07:47:06 PM
I'm not sure the best way to diffuse any potential flashpoints is to lock them in a car park for a couple of hours when it's cold, and not let them in the ground with less than half an hour to kick off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: lovejoy on November 30, 2023, 07:47:58 PM
It’s pronounced Wudj. (Łódź).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 07:48:11 PM
It's also worth remembering that while there will be some twats in their support, their normal fans that are just like us are also being treated like shit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Goldenballs on November 30, 2023, 07:50:17 PM
What's the reasoning for the police to be doing that to them?

Seems a pretty shitty thing to do to them, if it was our fans being treated like that away in Europe then I think we'd be pretty pissed off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2023, 07:50:26 PM
Legia fans

https://twitter.com/LegionisciCom/status/1730297793216942246

Pet Shop Boys fans too by the sound of them, the barsterds! Now I have Go West earworm.

West End Poles.

Domino Gdansking.

Lech Make Lots of Money.

Lodz of Money was there for the taking.

Imagine being a Legia fan thinking, "I wonder what the villa forums are saying about the match" and landing on here to find the place alive with Pet Shop Boys puns. Marvellous.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2023, 07:51:19 PM
It feels a bit like the police were, ooh, an excuse to get the horses out and get a bit 1985 for a change.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on November 30, 2023, 07:51:53 PM
What's the reasoning for the police to be doing that to them?

Seems a pretty shitty thing to do to them, if it was our fans being treated like that away in Europe then I think we'd be pretty pissed off.

Was the Villa fan experience in Warsaw not something similar, except after the game?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: usav on November 30, 2023, 07:53:52 PM
Unai just confirmed Ollie is 50% injury 50% rest.  Minor knock.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Yeltzer on November 30, 2023, 07:53:59 PM
Emery just confirmed 50% rest for Ollie, 50% small pain/knock.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on November 30, 2023, 07:54:28 PM
We're through to the next round now anyway, confirmed by AZ beating Mostar. Legia need to win tonight to stay in it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 07:54:43 PM
Legia have issued a statement full of complaints about what's going on
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Goldenballs on November 30, 2023, 07:56:00 PM
What's the reasoning for the police to be doing that to them?

Seems a pretty shitty thing to do to them, if it was our fans being treated like that away in Europe then I think we'd be pretty pissed off.

Was the Villa fan experience in Warsaw not something similar, except after the game?

Not sure, it just all seems a bit unnecessary from the police.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on November 30, 2023, 07:56:17 PM
Is the game likely to kickoff at 8?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Goldenballs on November 30, 2023, 07:56:52 PM
Doesn't look like any of the away fans are in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 07:57:28 PM
Zero Legia fans currently in the away end. Photo just sent from RedSox

(https://i.ibb.co/zP15z3G/01a.jpg)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 07:58:12 PM
I'm sure the game kicking off while they are kettled on Witton Lane will end any disorder and calm the away fans.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Skerra on November 30, 2023, 07:58:57 PM
Unai didn’t say as much but a small knock for a Villa player usually means major surgery as a minimum!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 07:59:43 PM
I'm sure the game kicking off while they are kettled on Witton Lane will end any disorder and calm the away fans.

Yep. Prolonging it will have precisely the opposite affect. Nothing spending money to go to a game abroad and finding the police stopped you from seeing it. That’s going to calm the tension.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Yeltzer on November 30, 2023, 07:59:47 PM
I'm sure the game kicking off while they are kettled on Witton Lane will end any disorder and calm the away fans.

Very good
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on November 30, 2023, 08:00:17 PM
Ollie has a slight injury.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on November 30, 2023, 08:01:17 PM
Big nights for Duran and Moreno.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on November 30, 2023, 08:02:41 PM
Legia have issued a statement full of complaints about what's going on

Précis. It’s a Sin
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 30, 2023, 08:03:20 PM
Zero Legia fans currently in the away end. Photo just sent from RedSox

(https://i.ibb.co/zP15z3G/01a.jpg)

Shit support, my Lord...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on November 30, 2023, 08:03:42 PM
It's so so so boring lads, the same shit every time
Reported. Not letting discuss of team selection on match thread.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 08:04:04 PM
SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 08:04:12 PM
gooallllllll  diaby
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on November 30, 2023, 08:04:15 PM
Anyone help me out with a whatsit to watch, a thingummybob.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: ez on November 30, 2023, 08:04:30 PM
Yesss
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 08:04:32 PM
Moussssssa
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 30, 2023, 08:04:46 PM
Moooooous!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on November 30, 2023, 08:05:04 PM
DIABBYYYYYYYY, MOUSA!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: usav on November 30, 2023, 08:05:05 PM
scoorchio!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 30, 2023, 08:05:05 PM
Sexy goal
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: jimmygreen on November 30, 2023, 08:05:06 PM
Oof. Slotage.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on November 30, 2023, 08:05:13 PM
Great goal Diaby
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on November 30, 2023, 08:05:20 PM
Great finish by Diaby!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Beard82 on November 30, 2023, 08:05:30 PM
Thats what I love about him - he has so much quality
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Goldenballs on November 30, 2023, 08:05:34 PM
Great goal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on November 30, 2023, 08:05:54 PM
I can't trust the SCORCHIOOOOOOOOOOOs anymore.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 08:05:58 PM
great ball by Tielmans
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 08:06:25 PM
1-0

https://twitter.com/yorkballd/status/1730317108788027696
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 30, 2023, 08:06:45 PM
Lovely stuff. Allez Moussa !
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on November 30, 2023, 08:07:01 PM
Diabyyyy... MOUSA!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 30, 2023, 08:07:33 PM
Yesss, get in.

It's Diaby Delight!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 08:08:23 PM
Durans quite nippy
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on November 30, 2023, 08:08:29 PM
What a goal. Brilliant
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 08:09:10 PM
John Duran with an surprise bit of pace there
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on November 30, 2023, 08:09:12 PM
Duran is quite… fast. Impressive!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on November 30, 2023, 08:09:24 PM
3 police officers hurt outside the ground apparently. As discussed already, they've probably made things worse for themselves.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 30, 2023, 08:09:27 PM
Duran has quite the turn of speed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on November 30, 2023, 08:09:38 PM
Lovely finish
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 30, 2023, 08:10:06 PM
That pace was impressive- so is the weight of pass from Tielemans.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2023, 08:10:12 PM
Not allowing them in, though.

Let's not forget, a lot of us are old enough to remember when it was us copping it for no good reason because of over-zealous policing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 30, 2023, 08:10:19 PM
Shame Duran didn't go across the keeper there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 08:11:53 PM
We’ve not had much of the ball since the goal. Mostly them
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on November 30, 2023, 08:12:08 PM
Not allowing them in, though.

Let's not forget, a lot of us are old enough to remember when it was us copping it for no good reason because of over-zealous policing.
I suspect the coppers have good reason.   Cough
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 08:12:53 PM
There will be a lot of normal fans that are just like us that have paid for travel, tickets, possibly accomodation that are not being allowed in the ground. It's a complete fail by WMP and rather than calling all Legia fans twats we should be against this sort of shit as we approach 2024.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 30, 2023, 08:13:13 PM
Not allowing them in, though.

Let's not forget, a lot of us are old enough to remember when it was us copping it for no good reason because of over-zealous policing.

Hmm, at the very least it won't reflect well on us. I also wonder what UEFA will make of it..
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on November 30, 2023, 08:13:58 PM
Not allowing them in, though.

Let's not forget, a lot of us are old enough to remember when it was us copping it for no good reason because of over-zealous policing.

Hmm, at the very least it won't reflect well on us. I also wonder what UEFA will make of it..

Has the club got any control over what the police are doing?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 08:16:59 PM
All a bit dull this game. We’re at walking pace most of the time and the game almost exclusively being played in our defensive third. They are not threatening but constantly being played so deep only invites problems.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on November 30, 2023, 08:18:36 PM
Not allowing them in, though.

Let's not forget, a lot of us are old enough to remember when it was us copping it for no good reason because of over-zealous policing.

Hmm, at the very least it won't reflect well on us. I also wonder what UEFA will make of it..

Has the club got any control over what the police are doing?

None
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on November 30, 2023, 08:19:05 PM
Only just catching up, I'm surprised that people were surprised by Durans pace, I've always thought he looked very quick.

I missed the goal (so thanks for the highlights PWS) but since I got it on we've looked totally in control and playing it at our pace.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Flamingo Lane on November 30, 2023, 08:19:59 PM
Legia are bound to cry 'foul' having to play this vital game without any of their supporters, being supporters who had not been banned by UEFA from attending. With the very big proviso that we don't know exactly what's been going on here, this has a terrible look about it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 08:20:07 PM
1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 08:20:20 PM
kamara  AGAIN   FFS
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 08:20:37 PM
absolute awful pass KAmara
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on November 30, 2023, 08:20:38 PM
Oh bollocks
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 08:20:42 PM
And there you fucking go. Exactly what I said. Stupid mistake fucking around with it at the back and we’ve conceded a needless goal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 30, 2023, 08:20:51 PM
1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 30, 2023, 08:20:56 PM
Apparently the police still aren't letting Legia fans into the ground and have them waiting in the away car park.

We should've let them into the ground early. Was coming back from Walsall earlier so had to change trains at Aston at 6pm and police were flooding the platforms with the commander saying their fans needed to be directed to Witton. Let the decent ones in from 6 ish and then deal with the troublemakers with the flares and everyone else later on.

20 minutes gone and none of their fans in and going to be carnage after the match I fear. Already none of our fans can go outside to have a fag so there's obviously plenty of angry Polish fans outside.

1-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2023, 08:21:01 PM
Fucking hell Kamara, WTF?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 30, 2023, 08:21:02 PM
The fuck was that all about.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on November 30, 2023, 08:21:12 PM
 ???
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Goldenballs on November 30, 2023, 08:21:12 PM
Shocking from Kamara
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on November 30, 2023, 08:21:15 PM
Kamara does this way too often
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Skerra on November 30, 2023, 08:21:24 PM
Nice playing out from the back again
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on November 30, 2023, 08:21:28 PM
That’s sloppy
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on November 30, 2023, 08:21:29 PM
What the hell was Kamara thinking???
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on November 30, 2023, 08:21:29 PM
Aww for fuck sake, really poor Kamara.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 08:21:34 PM
Stop fucking playing at snails pace and play in their fucking half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: usav on November 30, 2023, 08:21:50 PM
Has John McGinn touched the ball?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: devilla on November 30, 2023, 08:22:28 PM
Great finish but WTF was Kamara thinking?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 30, 2023, 08:22:49 PM
FFS, we've let them back in to it. (the team not the supporters)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on November 30, 2023, 08:22:52 PM
The old one-two: Olsen to Kamara and - weyhey - we concede.
TBF, Olsen wasn't really at fault.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Goldenballs on November 30, 2023, 08:23:19 PM
This is pretty shit tbh.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on November 30, 2023, 08:24:04 PM
You would assume Kamara didn't look... but he did. Makes it even stranger.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 08:24:53 PM
close there from duran
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on November 30, 2023, 08:25:18 PM
Individual errors again ... the players seem a little lethargic once more
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on November 30, 2023, 08:26:33 PM
close there from duran

About time, he's been a complete passenger so far.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 08:26:50 PM
There was no need after scoring for us to have played for almost 15 min that slow and that deep.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Skerra on November 30, 2023, 08:26:57 PM
Can we slow it down a bit, I can’t keep up with the scintillating pace of our game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Gerrin on November 30, 2023, 08:27:01 PM
That pass Keeper to Kamara around the edge of the penalty has cist us about 4 goals now. Why do they persist with it? Don't give him the ball there, ffs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 30, 2023, 08:27:04 PM
This is pretty shit tbh.

Reminds me a bit of Everton in the cup.

If we lack intensity then we revert to average pretty quickly.

We'll still win this but it would be useful going to Bosnia without needing our key players who can rest up for the Brentford match a couple of days later.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on November 30, 2023, 08:27:55 PM
There was no need after scoring for us to have played for almost 15 min that slow and that deep.

Playing slow and deep didn't cause us the problem though, it was a g3enuinely awful pass and, to be fair, a world class finish.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Holte132 on November 30, 2023, 08:29:34 PM
Have they let the Legia fans in yet?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 08:29:41 PM
Supposedly, some Legia fans are chucking stuff at home fans. Great job WMP

https://twitter.com/samgeorgeody/status/1730319597406961823
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 30, 2023, 08:29:42 PM
Clifford the observer is impressed, and distinctly unimpressed.
https://twitter.com/cliffordstott/status/1730272555951370674
https://twitter.com/cliffordstott/status/1730318475564831086
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 08:29:59 PM
There was no need after scoring for us to have played for almost 15 min that slow and that deep.

Playing slow and deep didn't cause us the problem though, it was a g3enuinely awful pass and, to be fair, a world class finish.

If we are constantly playing the ball across our penalty box and playing without any really desire to get forward eventually it increases the chances of a mistake being made. Make that mistake at their end it’s not an issue
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 30, 2023, 08:30:04 PM
Is McGinn playing?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 30, 2023, 08:30:20 PM
Again we play the high risk pass from Olsen.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on November 30, 2023, 08:31:23 PM
Again we play the high risk pass from Olsen.

You can just tell the other players don't trust him on the ball
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: usav on November 30, 2023, 08:31:29 PM
Is McGinn playing?

Exactly what I asked earlier.  In some games he is totally anonymous until Emery changes something.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 08:31:30 PM
So far the goal aside another pretty shit home performance in Europe.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 08:32:06 PM
pass to the strikers ffs 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on November 30, 2023, 08:32:12 PM
Is McGinn playing?

Exactly what I asked earlier.  In some games he is totally anonymous until Emery changes something.

He rarely plays well on the left.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on November 30, 2023, 08:32:18 PM
Is McGinn playing?

Exactly what I asked earlier.  In some games he is totally anonymous until Emery changes something.

Playing in wrong position. Need to swap him with Tielemans
 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on November 30, 2023, 08:33:20 PM
JJ needs to come on that left side
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 08:34:16 PM
ffs ref  advantage
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 30, 2023, 08:35:58 PM
It’s all very ponderous and pedestrian.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on November 30, 2023, 08:36:02 PM
Hmmm. Not the brightest game… going to find a load of Stollen and nibble
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2023, 08:36:30 PM
Good work from Tielemans there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 30, 2023, 08:36:32 PM
WMP have really fucked up outside VP
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on November 30, 2023, 08:36:33 PM
A few of tielemans passes have been so so sloppy
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 08:36:41 PM
yellow for that ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 30, 2023, 08:37:10 PM
WMP have really fucked up outside VP

You’ve no idea what’s going on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 30, 2023, 08:37:44 PM
Supposedly, some Legia fans are chucking stuff at home fans. Great job WMP

https://twitter.com/samgeorgeody/status/1730319597406961823

So they've escaped from the Witton pen and are now just roaming outside as that's the Holte end gap.

Not going to be safe for anyone who shortcuts through Aston Park if parked up round Upper Thomas Street so be careful folks if you're reading this at the game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 08:38:09 PM
lets hope this is our Tottenham half
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on November 30, 2023, 08:38:15 PM
This really hasn't been very good, midfield not really functioning well
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 08:38:16 PM
I'm struggling to think of another game in England where all the away fans have been refused entry. Reflects very badly on WMP but also very much on us as it's at our ground.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2023, 08:38:28 PM
https://x.com/spotter1097/status/1730323022291095971?s=20

Uh-oh.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 30, 2023, 08:38:31 PM
It’s all very ponderous and pedestrian.

That’s seems to happen a lot in these European games.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 30, 2023, 08:38:50 PM
Tielemans forward balls are a bit wayward at times, but at least he's positive. McGinn isn't in the game at all.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: IFWaters on November 30, 2023, 08:39:13 PM
This is a salad of mundanity
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on November 30, 2023, 08:39:22 PM
https://x.com/spotter1097/status/1730323022291095971?s=20

Uh-oh.


Bunch of ******
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 30, 2023, 08:39:42 PM
We should be dominating this, FFS.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 30, 2023, 08:39:58 PM
WMP have really fucked up outside VP

You’ve no idea what’s going on.

It’s all over Twitter. Broken into the North stand, chucking bottles into the Holte from trinity road.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Small Rodent on November 30, 2023, 08:40:15 PM
https://x.com/spotter1097/status/1730323022291095971?s=20

Uh-oh.

So where are the police?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2023, 08:40:48 PM
https://x.com/spotter1097/status/1730323022291095971?s=20

Uh-oh.

So where are the police?

Eating donuts and drinking coffee outside the 7/11 probably.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 08:41:06 PM
another breakdown attack
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 30, 2023, 08:41:13 PM
https://x.com/spotter1097/status/1730323022291095971?s=20

Uh-oh.

So where are the police?
staying warm inside the riot vans
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 30, 2023, 08:41:48 PM
Can only think we're happy with 2nd spot
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 08:41:58 PM
this ref is useless
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on November 30, 2023, 08:42:35 PM
ref is an absolute moron.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 08:42:37 PM
Moreno of old there 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on November 30, 2023, 08:42:43 PM
Booking Luiz for that?  Fuck sake.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 30, 2023, 08:43:06 PM
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13019864/aston-villa-three-police-officers-injured-after-clashes-with-legia-warsaw-fans-at-villa-park
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on November 30, 2023, 08:43:19 PM
I would love another goal. But it’s too pedestrian at the moment. JJ on, switch McGinn and Tielemans around
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 30, 2023, 08:44:57 PM
That bloody drives me mad. A player has a go at an opponent and the ref books both, despite one of them having done absolutely nothing won.

Why do officials always do that?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on November 30, 2023, 08:45:30 PM
What the fuck is wrong with kamara
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 08:46:08 PM
A very poor half from Kamara. Terrible pass
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 08:46:09 PM
no added time ?   
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on November 30, 2023, 08:46:38 PM
What the fuck is wrong with kamara

He's having one of those games he has every 10 games or so.  Sloppy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 08:46:43 PM
Well that was all rather crap.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 08:47:06 PM
As it stands we'll need to better Legia's result in the last game. So if Legia win we'll finish 2nd regardless of what we do in Mostar.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 30, 2023, 08:47:07 PM
A very poor half from Kamara. Terrible pass

That was so bad I actually laughed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: usav on November 30, 2023, 08:47:07 PM
I would love another goal. But it’s too pedestrian at the moment. JJ on, switch McGinn and Tielemans around

This
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Skerra on November 30, 2023, 08:47:22 PM
Unai needs to tell the team that this isn’t a walking football match.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on November 30, 2023, 08:47:25 PM
So slow and ponderous on the ball. Tempo needs to increase massively
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: ez on November 30, 2023, 08:48:03 PM
Don't tell me we can't beat these.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 30, 2023, 08:48:19 PM
Pretty poor - sort it out Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Goldenballs on November 30, 2023, 08:49:07 PM
Glad my mate forgot to book our tickets and I'm at home with a whisky instead.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Jane on November 30, 2023, 08:49:09 PM
I know this is the match thread but I fear for the fans coming out of the game whatever the result with this going on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 08:49:18 PM
I get part of the game plan is to stop them having the ball and controlling possession. But how about we do it in their half and not ours. And specifically not outside our box. We didn’t need to play the way we did and the mistake and goal we conceded was very avoidable.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: devilla on November 30, 2023, 08:49:48 PM
I think we'll see a very different second half. That was pretty dire.

Need to up the pace and use Moreno more, the times it went to him things happened. Very disappointing after such a great start.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 08:49:52 PM
I know this is the match thread but I fear for the fans coming out of the game whatever the result with this going on.

Absolutely. The police have made this a far worse situation than it needed to be.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on November 30, 2023, 08:50:34 PM
Up the pace, stop having duran run away from the ball because no one is filling the void and get JJ on.. we'll be fine.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on November 30, 2023, 08:50:44 PM
Moreno looks decent as does Dougie. Konsa was superb. Just need the rest of the side to perk up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: CT Villan on November 30, 2023, 08:51:47 PM
The way we came out in the first few minutes I thought we would run riot. I was wrong.

Boring, tepid garbage. Kamara is not having his best night and Olsen and the defence are taking a few unnecessary risks playing with the ball at the back. We don't look like winning the game thus far and Unai needs to change something pronto.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2023, 08:52:02 PM
Lots of people on twitter saying there's loads of Legia fans in the ground (in home seats)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: algy on November 30, 2023, 08:52:51 PM
I know this is the match thread but I fear for the fans coming out of the game whatever the result with this going on.
Very glad me & my dad chose to go to the AZ game instead. Looks a bit moody outside, and he's not one for making quick getaways these days
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 30, 2023, 08:53:44 PM
What happens if it ends 2-1, do away goals count? I guess if it' 3-2 it just goes down to gd
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on November 30, 2023, 08:54:38 PM
Don't think the performance is anywhere near as bad as some are making out. Doubt back 5 have ever played together so bound to be a few issues. Moreno and Lenglet have been decent. Konsa and Luiz have been good too. Diaby with a fine goal after a run of ropey form.

Kamara gave them their equaliser. Both McGinn and Tielemans very average, wouldn't be surprised if McGinn was hooked soon but don't understand their positioning at all. Maybe McGinn selected to give Moreno a bit more protection but he looks a bit weary tonight. Duran is very fortunate Watkins isn't on the bench or it would be there games in a row replaced at half time.

Legia are no mugs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on November 30, 2023, 08:57:12 PM
Moreno looks decent as does Dougie. Konsa was superb. Just need the rest of the side to perk up.

Konsa is my favourite player by a mile these days, absolutely class every single time and so calm
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: steamer on November 30, 2023, 08:57:21 PM
Rubbish really, apart from the goal we have passed it sideways, backwards with little effect and zero intensity
You can tell, Villa Park is silent for this European game under lights.
Not for the first time does Kamara give a goal away through being   half asleep when the ball is passed out to him
We need to be the team on the front foot for the second half , to wake up the crowd and win
can we buy that guy who has scored 3 in 2 games against us >
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2023, 08:57:56 PM
It isn't about bad individual performances (bar Kamara's clanger), we just lack a bit of coherence.

If Kamara hadn't dropped that bollock, it would be a totally different story, Legia are having a go but haven't really done much else.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on November 30, 2023, 08:58:19 PM
Olsen has improved, at least.

Up to very poor from abysmal. Some solid effort and he might nudge poor > below average.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 08:58:38 PM
Lots of people on twitter saying there's loads of Legia fans in the ground (in home seats)

RedSox says he's seen a bunch getting the heave ho from the home ends, including from close to him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: charlatan on November 30, 2023, 08:59:00 PM
What happens if it ends 2-1, do away goals count? I guess if it' 3-2 it just goes down to gd
no more than home goals....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on November 30, 2023, 08:59:29 PM
One thing, even after that stray pass from Kamara he’s still showing and he hasn’t gone missing at all.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on November 30, 2023, 09:00:29 PM
JJ has to start the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on November 30, 2023, 09:01:50 PM
Olsen has improved, at least.

Up to very poor from abysmal. Some solid effort and he might nudge poor > below average.

He’s just so slow off the line, we had a corner and the ball came all the way back and Martinez would have been right on it. It took ages for Olsen to appear. Also he does play the odd pass when you wonder why he chose it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on November 30, 2023, 09:01:52 PM
No changes
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: ez on November 30, 2023, 09:02:43 PM
I know this is the match thread but I fear for the fans coming out of the game whatever the result with this going on.

Absolutely. The police have made this a far worse situation than it needed to be.

I expect they will be kept in for a while.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Flamingo Lane on November 30, 2023, 09:02:49 PM
I know this is the match thread but I fear for the fans coming out of the game whatever the result with this going on.

Absolutely. The police have made this a far worse situation than it needed to be.

So what's going on now then?  How come there is a group of Legia fans, albeit a small group, able to wander around outside the ground throwing bottles into the stand, with no police in sight? Have any Legia fans now made it into their allocated seats in the DE? If so, how are things inside the ground?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Baldy on November 30, 2023, 09:03:47 PM
We don't always have to play it out from the back. Mix it up. Less predictable.

Come on lads, much better second half needed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on November 30, 2023, 09:04:12 PM
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13019864/aston-villa-three-police-officers-injured-after-clashes-with-legia-warsaw-fans-at-villa-park
sounds like a total clusterfuck.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 30, 2023, 09:05:11 PM
I know this is the match thread but I fear for the fans coming out of the game whatever the result with this going on.

Absolutely. The police have made this a far worse situation than it needed to be.

I expect they will be kept in for a while.

Are they even in the ground yet?

I get the feeling some wandering round Aston currently will probably sack off wanting to watch the match now  and will just hang around and wait for some isolated Villa fans to attack after the match in a dimly lit area a bit away from the ground.

Be careful everyone.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 30, 2023, 09:05:37 PM
Not sure Youri could have done much about that ball striking his arm
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Goldenballs on November 30, 2023, 09:06:07 PM
Seems like the police just saw it as a chance to give it the big I am.

Obviously I've got no idea for their reasoning, but I feel sorry for the poor fuckers coming all this way to be treated like that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 09:06:13 PM
off the bar from legia
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on November 30, 2023, 09:06:37 PM
Come on Villa.
Win this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 30, 2023, 09:06:47 PM
In his own postcode with that header...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2023, 09:06:50 PM
FFS Villa, fucking wake up, this is still shit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 30, 2023, 09:07:06 PM
off the bar from legia

Silence for that so there is minimal away presence still.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: devilla on November 30, 2023, 09:07:12 PM
FFS Villa, wake up!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 09:07:38 PM
close from diaby
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on November 30, 2023, 09:07:38 PM
Come on! That’s a shocking start to the half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 09:07:50 PM
Maybe we want the gate money from an extra round? Holte Suite needs the money.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 09:07:57 PM
Diaby close with a chance similar to the one he scored from.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 30, 2023, 09:08:09 PM
Lovely build up there. This is better
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 30, 2023, 09:08:16 PM
Better.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2023, 09:08:19 PM
Their keeper looks decent.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on November 30, 2023, 09:08:29 PM
thats more like it!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 30, 2023, 09:11:04 PM
Much better last few minutes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 09:11:17 PM
How is that a yellow for Tielemans?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 09:11:18 PM
never a yellow
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on November 30, 2023, 09:11:22 PM
Refs had a mare there
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 30, 2023, 09:11:29 PM
The ref though
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Goldenballs on November 30, 2023, 09:11:43 PM
How is that a yellow for Tielemans?

Joke of a decision.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 30, 2023, 09:11:45 PM
This referee is shite.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on November 30, 2023, 09:11:55 PM
where do they find these clowns?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on November 30, 2023, 09:11:57 PM
The yellow cards in the match have been an absolute joke.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 30, 2023, 09:12:26 PM
Maybe we want the gate money from an extra round? Holte Suite needs the money.

They'll be some decent teams dropping in from the Europa league so odd mentality especially as February would be pretty light without the play off round.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 30, 2023, 09:12:36 PM
And we thought English officials were shit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: jon collett on November 30, 2023, 09:13:18 PM
Villa have issued a statement. Maybe all the “experts” on here might read this before further commenting:

Aston Villa Football Club can confirm that no away fans were allowed into Villa Park for this evening’s UEFA Europa Conference League fixture with Legia Warsaw on the advice of West Midlands Police following large-scale disorder outside the stadium caused by visiting supporters.

The UK safety authorities, UEFA and Aston Villa, communicated on November 2 that the ticket allocation for away fans for this fixture would be reduced to 1,002 on the advice of safety authorities as a result of previous large-scale disorder caused by Legia fans last month at AZ Alkmaar.

A number of Dutch police officers were injured during that disorder. As a consequence, UEFA banned Legia supporters from travelling to Mostar for their game against HŠK Zrinjski.

In spite of numerous requests for cooperation from Legia Warsaw concerning their travelling supporters, especially in the last two days, no assistance on the serious safety matter of away fans attending Villa Park was forthcoming from the visiting club. The club has repeatedly, including this morning, raised concerns in conjunction with UEFA and all the relevant authorities to Legia that ticketless away supporters were attempting to attend Villa Park.

Approximately an hour before kick-off, Legia fans engaged in planned and systematic violent acts against West Midlands Police officers and a decision was then made by West Midlands Police to exclude all Legia supporters.

Aston Villa strongly condemns the behaviour of those visiting supporters and would like to thank West Midlands Police for their professionalism in very difficult circumstances.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: ez on November 30, 2023, 09:13:27 PM
I've just seen fan footage of legia fans lobbing bottles into the holte end from trinity Rd.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: devilla on November 30, 2023, 09:13:40 PM
You can't jump for a header with raising your arms. Unless you're zebedee of course.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 30, 2023, 09:13:41 PM
Good to see that both teams haven't obviously settled for the draw
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2023, 09:15:47 PM
The home performances in this competition have been really, really poor.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 09:15:55 PM
Morennooooooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 09:15:56 PM
SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Lizz on November 30, 2023, 09:15:57 PM
2-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 30, 2023, 09:16:06 PM
MOOOOOREEEEEENNNNOOOOOOO!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Holte132 on November 30, 2023, 09:16:11 PM
Moreno!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Risso on November 30, 2023, 09:16:19 PM
Booooom!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: ez on November 30, 2023, 09:16:20 PM
2-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 30, 2023, 09:16:33 PM
2-0.
Ermmm...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on November 30, 2023, 09:16:58 PM
Great finish Alex
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on November 30, 2023, 09:17:00 PM
Gotta love Moreno!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: devilla on November 30, 2023, 09:17:08 PM
GETTTT INN!!!!!!


ALEX!!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Risso on November 30, 2023, 09:17:25 PM
Great finish Alex.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 30, 2023, 09:17:49 PM
Love Alex, plays with a smile on his face
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Goldenballs on November 30, 2023, 09:18:01 PM
Sexy mofo.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Skerra on November 30, 2023, 09:18:13 PM
I see a replacement for Watkins has been found. Goes by the name of Moreno!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 30, 2023, 09:18:24 PM
Just picked up the thread - just in time for the update. Mind you the comment about their bonehead fans lobbing bottles is disconcerting.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on November 30, 2023, 09:18:33 PM
What a goal!! Genius free kick!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 30, 2023, 09:18:34 PM
Yesssssssssss!

Would have been a pen for the foul on Duran surely, if that hadn't gone in?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 30, 2023, 09:18:52 PM
Love Alex, plays with a smile on his face

Brilliant signing he has been
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on November 30, 2023, 09:18:59 PM
That’s a great finish by Moreno. Now let’s score another and win the group.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 30, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
Yesssssssssss!

Would have been a pen for the foul on Duran surely, if that hadn't gone in?
Not with this ref
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
no yellow for that ???
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 30, 2023, 09:19:34 PM
How many fouls is their 55 going to get away with?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 30, 2023, 09:19:35 PM
Needed that. Welcome back Alex!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on November 30, 2023, 09:20:18 PM
Magic Moreno!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 30, 2023, 09:20:38 PM
Be great to win group tonight and properly rest some more for the last game. Midfielders mainly
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on November 30, 2023, 09:20:49 PM
Yesssssssssss!

Would have been a pen for the foul on Duran surely, if that hadn't gone in?

I thought that as well, it was pretty rough from the defender.

Not sure how the guy didn't get a Yellow for going through Duran again there, given the soft yellows he's given against us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 09:21:10 PM
close there  from FK
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on November 30, 2023, 09:21:35 PM
Yes!!!
Why do we need win by 2 goals?
We have 12 points!!?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 09:22:12 PM
Durans up for it
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 30, 2023, 09:22:26 PM
Yes!!!
Why do we need win by 2 goals?
We have 12 points!!?

To win the group tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on November 30, 2023, 09:22:34 PM
Yes!!!
Why do we need win by 2 goals?
We have 12 points!!?

because if we win by 2 we have the goal difference in th ehead-to-head with these meaning they couldn't go above us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on November 30, 2023, 09:22:37 PM
I’d love Duran to bury one tonight
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 09:22:40 PM
Yes!!!
Why do we need win by 2 goals?
We have 12 points!!?


stupid rule 



Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on November 30, 2023, 09:22:55 PM
Yes!!!
Why do we need win by 2 goals?
We have 12 points!!?

IF we lose the next one, and Legia win, they go above us still on head to head. 3-1 win tonight would mean it didn't matter in mostar.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 30, 2023, 09:23:00 PM
Yes!!!
Why do we need win by 2 goals?
We have 12 points!!?

Guarantee to win group we could lose the last game 10.0 and it wouldn't matter as head to head counts. Currently all square.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Risso on November 30, 2023, 09:23:07 PM
Diaby looking a lot brighter this half, much more like his old self.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 30, 2023, 09:23:41 PM
Durans up for it

He's been really good in this second half. Working hard.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: ez on November 30, 2023, 09:23:52 PM
Well it looks like we do want the win by 2 clear goals after all. We didn't look bothered in the first half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2023, 09:23:56 PM
Durans up for it

He's been really good in this second half. Working hard.

Yeah, he is definitely putting a shift in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on November 30, 2023, 09:24:02 PM
Yes!!!
Why do we need win by 2 goals?
We have 12 points!!?

Guarantee to win group we could lose the last game 10.0 and it wouldn't matter as head to head counts. Currently all square.

I think they still lead on goals scored against us in the H2H.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 30, 2023, 09:24:53 PM
Can someone assure me, if we win tonight and the last game, we win the group?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Lizz on November 30, 2023, 09:24:56 PM
2-0.
Ermmm...

My bad as I think young people say. My only excuse is I've had a stressful day.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on November 30, 2023, 09:25:03 PM
Other than scoring, how does Moreno look? Moving well?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 30, 2023, 09:25:06 PM
Muci looks half decent for them
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on November 30, 2023, 09:25:10 PM
Olsens quick distribution has been very good second half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 30, 2023, 09:25:20 PM
Yes!!!
Why do we need win by 2 goals?
We have 12 points!!?

Guarantee to win group we could lose the last game 10.0 and it wouldn't matter as head to head counts. Currently all square.

I think they still lead on goals scored against us in the H2H.

Haven't we both scored 4 in H2H?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 30, 2023, 09:25:27 PM
If we win by one goal tonight, does that mean we only need a draw in the final game to secure top spot?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 30, 2023, 09:25:30 PM
Yes ref about bloody time 🟨
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 30, 2023, 09:25:38 PM
Other than scoring, how does Moreno look? Moving well?
Super
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on November 30, 2023, 09:26:11 PM
Yes!!!
Why do we need win by 2 goals?
We have 12 points!!?

Guarantee to win group we could lose the last game 10.0 and it wouldn't matter as head to head counts. Currently all square.

I think they still lead on goals scored against us in the H2H.

Haven't we both scored 4 in H2H?

As it stands we've both scored 4, which is why we need to win by 2 goals.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 30, 2023, 09:26:32 PM
Can someone assure me, if we win tonight and the last game, we win the group?

Most likely, bar Legia winning their last game 5 or 6-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 09:26:43 PM
JJ and Bailey coming on
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 30, 2023, 09:27:04 PM
If we win by one goal tonight, does that mean we only need a draw in the final game to secure top spot?

Yes. If we win by 2 tonight though we have won the group and can send the kids out to Bosnia for the dead rubber in two weeks
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on November 30, 2023, 09:27:09 PM
Yes!!!
Why do we need win by 2 goals?
We have 12 points!!?

Guarantee to win group we could lose the last game 10.0 and it wouldn't matter as head to head counts. Currently all square.

I think they still lead on goals scored against us in the H2H.

Haven't we both scored 4 in H2H?

Yep, so it would then go to goal difference for the group, meaning a big win for them and a defeat for us could be enough to put them above us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on November 30, 2023, 09:27:20 PM
Yes!!!
Why do we need win by 2 goals?
We have 12 points!!?

Guarantee to win group we could lose the last game 10.0 and it wouldn't matter as head to head counts. Currently all square.
Doh!!!
I forgot there is another game. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 30, 2023, 09:28:20 PM
If we win by one goal tonight, does that mean we only need a draw in the final game to secure top spot?

Yes. If we win by 2 tonight though we have won the group and can send the kids out to Bosnia for the dead rubber in two weeks

Ok ta.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on November 30, 2023, 09:28:30 PM
If we win by one goal tonight, does that mean we only need a draw in the final game to secure top spot?

Yes. If we win by 2 tonight though we have won the group and can send the kids out to Bosnia for the dead rubber in two weeks

Who are the kids? Do we have any?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on November 30, 2023, 09:28:58 PM
Yes!!!
Why do we need win by 2 goals?
We have 12 points!!?

Guarantee to win group we could lose the last game 10.0 and it wouldn't matter as head to head counts. Currently all square.
Doh!!!
I forgot there is another game.

I join you with a Doh as I can't do maths.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Small Rodent on November 30, 2023, 09:29:14 PM

In spite of numerous requests for cooperation from Legia Warsaw concerning their travelling supporters, especially in the last two days, no assistance on the serious safety matter of away fans attending Villa Park was forthcoming from the visiting club. The club has repeatedly, including this morning, raised concerns in conjunction with UEFA and all the relevant authorities to Legia that ticketless away supporters were attempting to attend Villa Park.

Approximately an hour before kick-off, Legia fans engaged in planned and systematic violent acts against West Midlands Police officers

Legia’s officials sound like they are as much wankers as their ticketless fans. No respect given to those fans that have travelled with tickets.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on November 30, 2023, 09:29:35 PM
Moreno goal

https://twitter.com/TheAthleticFC/status/1730336462577488259
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 30, 2023, 09:31:00 PM
Not just their fans that are twats then.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on November 30, 2023, 09:31:14 PM
Bailey to score one too?

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 09:32:04 PM
got to be another yellow there
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 09:32:26 PM
VAR PEN
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: devilla on November 30, 2023, 09:33:05 PM
That was a great move.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 09:33:11 PM
nothing doing
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 30, 2023, 09:33:37 PM
Dirty team, dirty fans. It's like 40 years ago watching them...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on November 30, 2023, 09:33:50 PM
There were thousands of ticketless Villa fans in Holland for the recent game, only a handful of them were wankers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on November 30, 2023, 09:34:49 PM
That tackle on Luiz was a bit nasty, these are a right bunch of c**ts, on and off the pitch.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 30, 2023, 09:35:14 PM
Poor from Lenglet
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 09:35:48 PM
should have gone to Bailey
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 09:36:06 PM
zaniolo worldie to come
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on November 30, 2023, 09:36:31 PM
There were thousands of ticketless Villa fans in Holland for the recent game, only a handful of them were wankers.

Although I doubt many were hanging around next to the stadium.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2023, 09:36:33 PM
Zaniolo to bury an absolute shitpinger inside 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on November 30, 2023, 09:36:37 PM
Screamer time
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on November 30, 2023, 09:36:48 PM
So how long will they keep them penned in?
They’re gonna be freezing!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on November 30, 2023, 09:36:49 PM
should have gone to Bailey

Lovely play though, another heavy challenge on Moreno as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 30, 2023, 09:37:03 PM
Hmmm..
. Thought Alex and Moussa were our best attacking threat...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 30, 2023, 09:37:06 PM
How did Duran manage that? Definitely one you’d want in your trench with that never say die approach.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Small Rodent on November 30, 2023, 09:37:45 PM
There were thousands of ticketless Villa fans in Holland for the recent game, only a handful of them were wankers.

They werent travelling with “intent”.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Skerra on November 30, 2023, 09:38:16 PM
Never mind a worldie, just something off Zaniolo’s arse would do!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on November 30, 2023, 09:39:23 PM
How did Duran manage that? Definitely one you’d want in your trench with that never say die approach.

and to think people were questioning his attitude a few weeks back, I think that particular myth can be considered well and truly busted after tonight, he's put in a Watkins level shift here.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 09:39:28 PM
lenglet clanger
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on November 30, 2023, 09:40:04 PM
Duran has done everything but score tonight. Impressive performance, whereas he’s still developing, there’s a talent there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 09:44:55 PM
Close
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 09:45:05 PM
bailey hits bar
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 30, 2023, 09:45:26 PM
Arrrgh Bailey that was unlucky.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2023, 09:45:46 PM
Fuck me, how close was that!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on November 30, 2023, 09:46:03 PM
Gotta be no more than millimetres.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on November 30, 2023, 09:46:06 PM
Very very unlucky by Bailey there. 1 cm lower and that’s a worldie.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2023, 09:46:13 PM
Bailey with nearly a gorgeous goal. Off the bar
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: devilla on November 30, 2023, 09:46:14 PM
Wow great ball by Olsen
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 09:47:48 PM
Dendonker worldie
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 30, 2023, 09:48:21 PM
Don't remember us ever having three different captains in one game
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Goldenballs on November 30, 2023, 09:48:45 PM
Did the keeper get a touch to Bailey's shot?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on November 30, 2023, 09:48:46 PM
I’ll take one off the arse from Dendonker right now.

Would love us to win 3-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 30, 2023, 09:49:05 PM
Other than scoring, how does Moreno look? Moving well?
Super

MOTM
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 09:49:51 PM
bloody lora Cash
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 30, 2023, 09:50:04 PM
Did the keeper get a touch to Bailey's shot?
Think so
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Risso on November 30, 2023, 09:50:36 PM
What is the point of Duran?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 30, 2023, 09:50:42 PM
bloody Nora Cash

FTFY
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on November 30, 2023, 09:51:16 PM
What a first touch in there from Bailey, he's really unlucky not to have something here, he's been a massive threat.

Duran should've had a tap in there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: ez on November 30, 2023, 09:51:22 PM
Fack off with playing backwards in the dying minutes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2023, 09:51:55 PM
What is the point of Duran?

He's had a good game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 09:52:03 PM
ffs ref advantage   u tosser
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 30, 2023, 09:52:17 PM
What is the point of Duran?

He's only 19...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on November 30, 2023, 09:52:38 PM
Not impressed by the standard of refs in the Conference league
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2023, 09:52:47 PM
bailey pass the fucker
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 09:52:51 PM
Full time
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: devilla on November 30, 2023, 09:52:55 PM
Advantage referee!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 30, 2023, 09:53:46 PM
So does this mean that we've won the group now?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Goldenballs on November 30, 2023, 09:53:50 PM
Ref's a proper knob.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2023, 09:53:59 PM
So does this mean that we've won the group now?

No
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2023, 09:54:05 PM
So does this mean that we've won the group now?

No.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Goldenballs on November 30, 2023, 09:54:16 PM
So does this mean that we've won the group now?

No, not yet. Need 1 point to be sure.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on November 30, 2023, 09:54:30 PM
Poor first half. Ok second half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on November 30, 2023, 09:54:36 PM
Feels slightly anti climactic. We were already qualified before kick off, we're still already qualified.

Moreno being back is probably the highlight of the night.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: ez on November 30, 2023, 09:54:38 PM
So does this mean that we've won the group now?
If legia don't win their last game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on November 30, 2023, 09:55:00 PM
Not quite, probably 95% chance we finish top.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2023, 09:56:07 PM
Assuming Legia win against AZ, we need a point to win the group.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 30, 2023, 09:56:55 PM
Another disappointing (by our standards) performance in this competition. Lots of reasons, I don't doubt but we've yet to REALLY show up. Still, plenty of time and we're obviously more focused on the PL.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on November 30, 2023, 09:57:29 PM
Assuming Legia win against AZ, we need a point to win the group.

Legia would still have to turn around the goal difference in the scenario that we lose
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 30, 2023, 09:58:34 PM
So because it finished 4-4 the teams are considered tied in terms of performance against each other and therefore we need a point in Serbia to be sure of top spot? Nnnngh, I was hoping it would be a dead rubber so I wouldn't be bothered about finding a pub in the middle of London on the 14th between doing Xmassy things...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on November 30, 2023, 10:14:24 PM
So because it finished 4-4 the teams are considered tied in terms of performance against each other and therefore we need a point in Serbia to be sure of top spot? Nnnngh, I was hoping it would be a dead rubber so I wouldn't be bothered about finding a pub in the middle of London on the 14th between doing Xmassy things...

I don’t think there’s any chance of us getting a point in Serbia.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 30, 2023, 10:19:29 PM
So because it finished 4-4 the teams are considered tied in terms of performance against each other and therefore we need a point in Serbia to be sure of top spot? Nnnngh, I was hoping it would be a dead rubber so I wouldn't be bothered about finding a pub in the middle of London on the 14th between doing Xmassy things...

I don’t think there’s any chance of us getting a point in Serbia.

Can I have you on my pub quiz team, Richard? I thought Zrinjski Mostar was a race horse.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on November 30, 2023, 10:24:17 PM
Haven’t been to a pub quiz for ages. Last time I got into an argument with the quiz master about which European country had borders with the most other countries.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 30, 2023, 10:32:02 PM
Haven’t been to a pub quiz for ages. Last time I got into an argument with the quiz master about which European country had borders with the most other countries.

Russia?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on November 30, 2023, 10:36:55 PM
Haven’t been to a pub quiz for ages. Last time I got into an argument with the quiz master about which European country had borders with the most other countries.

Russia?


I think so but he reckoned it was Germany
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Legia Warsaw Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 30, 2023, 10:49:14 PM
Haven’t been to a pub quiz for ages. Last time I got into an argument with the quiz master about which European country had borders with the most other countries.

Russia?


I think so but he reckoned it was Germany

You can take the man out of Wolverhampton..
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