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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on July 18, 2022, 03:36:52 PM
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Game is Wednesday - 5.45am my time, so 10.45am in the UK. Expecting quite a few changes and a number of the kids to be involved. Hoping Cam leads the line and we get to see Tim and a few others get a good run out. Also Emi in goal and Bert on the wing. Will be interest to gauge Konsa’s fitness and sharpness in his first game back. And maybe even a debut for our Ludwig.
Edited to correct date of game.
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10.45 a.m. Wednesday 20th July (UK time).
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You're a day ahead of yourself i think Toronto, game is at 1045 on wednesday morning!
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Shit that’s right. It is Wednesday. Thank you chaps for correcting my oversight.
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The weather forecast for Wednesday in Townsville is a pleasant 24 degrees. Nice.
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24C?
Bloody freezing !!
Expect gloves to be worn.
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24C?
Bloody freezing !!
Expect gloves to be worn.
It’s going to be minus 1 in Melbourne overnight. I never signed up for this. I could have stayed in Brum if I wanted to freeze. Thank funk we have one of the few houses in Australia with double glazing.
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24C?
Bloody freezing !!
Expect gloves to be worn.
It’s going to be minus 1 in Melbourne overnight. I never signed up for this. I could have stayed in Brum if I wanted to freeze. Thank funk we have one of the few houses in Australia with double glazing.
My niece (originally from Bolton) is over from Sydney at the moment. She's always moaning about the build quality of Aussie houses. Absolute shite is how she describes it, and freezing in the winter.
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24C?
Bloody freezing !!
Expect gloves to be worn.
It’s going to be minus 1 in Melbourne overnight. I never signed up for this. I could have stayed in Brum if I wanted to freeze. Thank funk we have one of the few houses in Australia with double glazing.
My niece (originally from Bolton) is over from Sydney at the moment. She's always moaning about the build quality of Aussie houses. Absolute shite is how she describes it, and freezing in the winter.
Must be the same people that make the houses in Japan, too
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Few southern hemisphere housing is designed for Winter
Winter happens and despite global warming, June July and to an extent August can be F*****g cold, warmer in the sun outside than in the house.
Good incentive to be out and about
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5.99 to watch a pre season friendly? That's taking the piss.
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It’s going to be minus 1 in Melbourne overnight. I never signed up for this. I could have stayed in Brum if I wanted to freeze.
You haven't been following the news, have you?
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It’s going to be minus 1 in Melbourne overnight. I never signed up for this. I could have stayed in Brum if I wanted to freeze.
You haven't been following the news, have you?
I just assumed all the stuff about temperatures in the 40's was in Rees-Mogg approved brexity fahrenheit.
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So if we draw or better, we’ve won this Queensland Champions Cup? Is it one bought off Amazon and will we have to give it back next year?
I’m haven’t been this excited since the Peace Cup.
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Bit of a shame that the game is on when I'm in the office. Have we ever played an Australian team before?
Tend to like Brisbane teams (in Aussie Rules and Rugby League), as theg always seem to play in claret and blue.
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It's Queensland so it's probably a banana spray painted gold.
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Bit of a shame that the game is on when I'm in the office. Have we ever played an Australian team before?
Tend to like Brisbane teams (in Aussie Rules and Rugby League), as theg always seem to play in claret and blue.
It's maroon so a bit less classy than claret.
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Bit of a shame that the game is on when I'm in the office. Have we ever played an Australian team before?
Tend to like Brisbane teams (in Aussie Rules and Rugby League), as theg always seem to play in claret and blue.
It's maroon so a bit less classy than claret.
Brisbane Roar play in orange tops with black shorts.
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Bit of a shame that the game is on when I'm in the office. Have we ever played an Australian team before?
Tend to like Brisbane teams (in Aussie Rules and Rugby League), as theg always seem to play in claret and blue.
It's maroon so a bit less classy than claret.
Brisbane Roar play in orange tops with black shorts.
Good time to introduce our new away shirt?
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Good time to introduce our new away shirt?
I was thinking we might need to for the Man U match, unless they're planning on wearing their away kit.
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Few southern hemisphere housing is designed for Winter
Winter happens and despite global warming, June July and to an extent August can be F*****g cold, warmer in the sun outside than in the house.
Good incentive to be out and about
Not here in the NZ south island mate. I have a double glazed and very well insulated home. Don't often need heating as it has a lot of glass so even on a cold day the sun warms the house. It was -5c when I left NZ to go to Brisbane early Saturday morning.
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Bit of a shame that the game is on when I'm in the office. Have we ever played an Australian team before?
Tend to like Brisbane teams (in Aussie Rules and Rugby League), as theg always seem to play in claret and blue.
It's maroon so a bit less classy than claret.
Brisbane Roar play in orange tops with black shorts.
Good time to introduce our new away shirt?
Lets hope so.
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Chambers starts again after 72 mins against Leeds. Understandable as Konsa coming backk from injury. but I did think he may try Mings and Carlos together. I wonder if Gerrard now sees us as Chambers / Konsa left & Mings / Carlos right?
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Augustinsson on the bench.
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Martinez
Cash Chanbers Carlos Digne
McGinn Kamara
Traore Coutinno Bailey
Ings
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Yay, Bert lives!
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Emi 1 is captain
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Good morning everyone.
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Any way to get it that isn’t AVTV?
Edit: found some stuff on YouTube, not sure if it’ll be any good though
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Sent you a link.
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Don't look many there
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Why are they playing the Villa entrance music?
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Don't look many there
🤣
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Sent you a link.
Would appreciate if you could drop me one too - thanks
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Nice to watch a game not wearing pyjamas for once.
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Evening everyone. Watching it at home on TV, 9:45pm over here in NZ.
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Sent you a link.
Would appreciate if you could drop me one too - thanks
And me too. Would be very much appreciated.
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Don't look many there
Like a Saturday at the sty
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Don't look many there
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it's only 1000km north of Brisbane and return flights are $700, so is it any wonder ffs.
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This is going to be a good exercise in breaking down a side keeping 10 men behind the ball.
Weak effort from Bert there.
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Why is the match being held a thousand miles away from Brisbane?
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Why is the match being held a thousand miles away from Brisbane?
No idea really, it would have been better to have had both games at Suncorp in Brisbane.
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It’s on YouTube if folks are looking for it.
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Because that’s the main city in north Queensland. Trouble is, not many live up there, serious croc country. Queensland government would’ve had a big influence I’d imagine.
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Watching while I should be working. Gonna have to turn the sound off for the team stand-up and hope the Villa dont score :D
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Watching while I should be working. Gonna have to turn the sound off for the team stand-up and hope the Villa dont score :D
2-0 up now!!
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We’ve started well but now Brisbane have pretty much had the ball for about 2 minutes straight. The top teams would never have allowed that. They’d have won it back much quicker. Against a team like this in a friendly doesn’t matter too much but it will in the PL.
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Make that 3-0!
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We’ve not had a shot in 12 minutes which is also a concern. We don’t create enough clear cut chances
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4-0
Am I watching the same game as other people??
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It's free to stream on MLS Live on YouTube save you paying Villa for it.
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Not sure what the joke is but imagine your posts are fairly annoying for those not watching.
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Nasty from Digne. Red card in a real game.
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Oooof Digne might have been sent off for that challenge in the PL. Nasty and the Brisbane player has a terrible cut on his ankle.
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That's a clear red in the real world for Digne.
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Digne gets sent off every day for that in the PL.
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Close from Brisbane.
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I’m at work but monitoring this wonderful thread. Scorers please?
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A ridiculous challenge by Digne. We’d be livid if it was the other way round.
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Decent effort by Lofthouse for the Cons.
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Oooof Digne might have been sent off for that challenge in the PL. Nasty and the Brisbane player has a terrible cut on his ankle.
definite red card tackle, completely misjudged it.
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4-0
Am I watching the same game as other people??
What are you watching?
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Coutinho is way too deep. Not effective at all.
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Decent effort by Lofthouse for the Cons.
great assist from the ref as well, surely he should've stopped play there.
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I’m at work but monitoring this wonderful thread. Scorers please?
Still 0-0 :)
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Should have def been a ref for Digne….not sure two wingers + attacking full backs but no centre forward capable of winning a header works too well ( sure Ings will bury a header now in a minute lol)
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Not sure what the joke is but imagine your posts are fairly annoying for those not watching.
If that comment was meant for me please tell me. I thought I was helping those unable to watch it by giving updates, like we do on match threads.
The match doesn't seem to be live on YouTube though, as it's now showing 83 minutes have gone.
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I’m at work but monitoring this wonderful thread. Scorers please?
Still 0-0 :)
Buggers!!
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We're desperate for a striker and Coutinho needs to be further forward. I see the same patterns of play as last season.
So predictable
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Not sure what the joke is but imagine your posts are fairly annoying for those not watching.
If that comment was meant for me please tell me. I thought I was helping those unable to watch it by giving updates, like we do on match threads.
The match doesn't seem to be live on YouTube though, as it's now showing 83 minutes have gone.
Are you on watching some other game??? the score is 0-0 after 20 minutes
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Not sure what the joke is but imagine your posts are fairly annoying for those not watching.
If that comment was meant for me please tell me. I thought I was helping those unable to watch it by giving updates, like we do on match threads.
The match doesn't seem to be live on YouTube though, as it's now showing 83 minutes have gone.
The game is live and it’s 0-0. We have no idea what you’re on about with it being 4-0. That’s not the score.
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Live stream seems to have gone down (was using MLS one)
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We started okay but they've been better in the last few minutes.
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https://youtu.be/fR1hyvaDy5Q
Edit. It’s stopped working.
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Our midfield is non existent and I don’t know that two attacking full backs works with two wingers.
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Not sure what the joke is but imagine your posts are fairly annoying for those not watching.
If that comment was meant for me please tell me. I thought I was helping those unable to watch it by giving updates, like we do on match threads.
The match doesn't seem to be live on YouTube though, as it's now showing 83 minutes have gone.
The game is live and it’s 0-0. We have no idea what you’re on about with it being 4-0. That’s not the score.
Many apologies. I seem to have been watching some highlights, but the captions definitely said it was the game you are all watching.
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Not sure what the joke is but imagine your posts are fairly annoying for those not watching.
If that comment was meant for me please tell me. I thought I was helping those unable to watch it by giving updates, like we do on match threads.
The match doesn't seem to be live on YouTube though, as it's now showing 83 minutes have gone.
What on earth are you talking about?
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Dreadful attempt by Traore
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Anyone got another YouTube link please that's working
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Traore, Bailey, Cash and Digne all playing wide - nothing in the middle?
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This is all a bit huff and puff and not much quality in the final third.
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McGinn is utterly ineffective in this role. He’s not getting forward into the box at all. Coutinho is invisible.
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We have too many wingers in a squad where I don’t think the manager really wants to play with wingers. But until he is able to sell them we are trying to shoehorn them in.
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Not sure what the joke is but imagine your posts are fairly annoying for those not watching.
If that comment was meant for me please tell me. I thought I was helping those unable to watch it by giving updates, like we do on match threads.
The match doesn't seem to be live on YouTube though, as it's now showing 83 minutes have gone.
What on earth are you talking about?
I'm talking rubbish as usual! Somehow I got a link to the game, or so it seemed. It certainly said it was the game this thread is about, but as I said, it seemed to be showing highlights so I thought I had just read the time wrong. Quite why I thought it was a good idea to post the 'scores' I don't know. Senior moment? No idea what I was watching - maybe someone does computer simulations of games and puts them on youtube as if they are the real thing? I don't know. Sorry if people were annoyed, offended or whatever. I'll go and sit in a quiet corner.
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Our best chance there from…erm…Callum Chambers
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Courtinho is way too deep, there’s no space.
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Michael Jackson footwork from Callum Chambers.
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Coutinho is playing so deep.
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The MLS Live feed still has live coverage but has an annoying pop-up that covers most of the screen and I've not figured out how to get rid of it.
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Bailey's not done a fat lot this half.
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How is Kamara playing please?
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Kamara is absolutely silky. Doesn’t matter where he is receiving the ball he seems to have so much time to control and pass it to a teammate safely.
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How is Kamara playing please?
Neat and tidy. We've got lots of possession, we just can't break them down.
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Kamara is immensely comfortable on either foot.
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Traore is getting to see lots of the ball but not doing a lot with it.
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How is Kamara playing please?
He's been our best player, IMO.
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Looking forward to the first outing for "I hope that was our bad half" of the season on 45 mins.
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How is Kamara playing please?
He's been our best player, IMO.
Thanks CD, does he need a proper partner in there with him?
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Wingers have swapped sides. Bailey is better on the right
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Kamara just controlled the ball on his chest on the edge of his own box, played a 1-2 and came out with the ball under no pressure. He does look like he has so much time on the ball, fully in control. He looks great.
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Don't seem to know how to play against a low block
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The pitch isn’t helping things. Both teams are finding it difficult.
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How is Kamara playing please?
He's been our best player, IMO.
Thanks CD, does he need a proper partner in there with him?
Dunno. On my tiny screen it's not really easy to tell who's supposed to be doing what! 😄
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If Traore and Bailey want to have some serious game time this season, they need to do a lot more than get the ball and pass it back to Digne or Cash.
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Carlos is very good also. Another who is very calm on the ball.
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If Traore and Bailey want to have some serious game time this season, they need to do a lot more than get the ball and pass it back to Digne or Cash.
Two wingers and two wing backs doesn’t work. Way too congested in those areas of the pitch and we are being left light in numbers in the middle in attack and defence
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How the fuck haven’t we scored there? Chambers has to slide in
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How the fuck have we not scored there?
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HT 0-0. The system of two wingers and two attacking full backs hasn’t worked
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I hope that was our bad half.
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Half-time. Less than amazing.
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A friend who lives in Townsville who is at the game said it is 22c but with 80% humidity and feels like 35c. Its not the best conditions for football.
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The problem with this shape is that we're getting loads of crosses in but only have 1 player in the box against 2-3 defenders. If this is any indication of what he wants to do this season we need a different striker because Ings just doesn't work as the sole striker when the support players are staying wide.
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This is the back four that I would start against Bournemouth. Carlos looks assured in possession and I like Chambers distribution.
Still not sure about Bailey and unfortunately I don’t think Traore will start too many games this season.
Kamara is a class player.
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Another tacky looking pitch too, not ideal for quick pass and move. Players needing to take a touch. We should be ahead but should also be down to 10 men.
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HT 0-0. The system of two wingers and two attacking full backs hasn’t worked
It might if those wingers try to beat their man a bit more. It’s all a bit safety first and that against a third division standard of opposition.
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Another tacky looking pitch too, not ideal for quick pass and move. Players needing to take a touch. We should be ahead but should also be down to 10 men.
Both pitches we have played on have had Rugby League games played on them a few days before, so not surprising that they are not in great condition.
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If Traore and Bailey want to have some serious game time this season, they need to do a lot more than get the ball and pass it back to Digne or Cash.
Two wingers and two wing backs doesn’t work. Way too congested in those areas of the pitch and we are being left light in numbers in the middle in attack and defence
It works for Liverpool.
Bailey and Traore played very narrow at times and drifted wide as needs be. Just because we haven't lit it up doesn't mean the system can't work.
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Ten changes. Martinez the only one who remains.
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Konsa's back and Cam is on. We're gonna rip them to shreds this half.
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I know that giving the whole squad game time is 100% the right thing to do but I wanted to see more of Bouba, so slightly annoyed nonetheless..
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https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1549708669180583936?t=ZUSQmU7rQldsmiT_y07uZA&s=19
Second half XI.
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If Traore and Bailey want to have some serious game time this season, they need to do a lot more than get the ball and pass it back to Digne or Cash.
Two wingers and two wing backs doesn’t work. Way too congested in those areas of the pitch and we are being left light in numbers in the middle in attack and defence
It works for Liverpool.
Bailey and Traore played very narrow at times and drifted wide as needs be. Just because we haven't lit it up doesn't mean the system can't work.
Jota or Mane and Salah aren’t wingers. More traditional forwards who play either side of the central striker. And they are so much better than what we have.
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Cam close after nice work from Emi and HKK
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Nearly a goal for Archer after some magic from Buendia.
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https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1549708669180583936?t=ZUSQmU7rQldsmiT_y07uZA&s=19
Second half XI.
Incredible to think Konsa was due back from injury in September and he's already playing.
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Who still can't get a game - Sanson, Chrisene...anyone else?
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Impressive start from Kesler Hayden.
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https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1549708669180583936?t=ZUSQmU7rQldsmiT_y07uZA&s=19
Second half XI.
That looks far more balanced beyond the back 5.
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Who is the new coach next to Gerrard and McAllister? Critchley it aint. Too blonde.
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Who still can't get a game - Sanson, Chrisene...anyone else?
Aaron Ramsey, Chrisene and Feeney are the only unused outfield subs so far.
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Better so far, KKH and Buendia are creating problems for them. This shape works much better, we're not getting crowded out in the middle of the pitch now.
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Who is the new coach next to Gerrard and McAllister? Critchley it aint. Too blonde.
Critchley isn't in Australia. Passport woes.
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Who is the new coach next to Gerrard and McAllister? Critchley it aint. Too blonde.
Aaron Danks. Was here under DS.
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Cam is quick and direct. Nearly got on the end of that long ball from Mings
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Archer nearly did them for pace there.
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Goal kick?
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Yeah, I know. So who is it?
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Yeah, I know. So who is it?
See my post.
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Is Keinan injured again or off somewhere?
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Ta.
Who still can't get a game - Sanson, Chrisene...anyone else?
Aaron Ramsey, Chrisene and Feeney are the only unused outfield subs so far.
Where's Morgan?
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Also no Guilbert
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I'd be quite happy to pick Kesler Hayden ahead of Ashley Old on this basis.
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Our players more than their players seem to be slipping a lot
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Ta.
Said in the opening commentary that Sanson and Guilbert are the only members of the squad who aren't on the bench.
Read into that what you will.
Who still can't get a game - Sanson, Chrisene...anyone else?
Aaron Ramsey, Chrisene and Feeney are the only unused outfield subs so far.
Where's Morgan?
Siad in the opening comnentary that of the players who got a run out on Saturday, only Sanson and Guilbert aren't on the bench. Read into that what you will.
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This is fairly dire. We're resorting to hopeful punts and crosses. Can't we try some triangles and move their defence out of position?
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Not overly impressed so far by our new Swede.
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Olsen on for Martinez.
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Olsen on for Emi. Emi will start vs Man U I’d imagine
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Not overly impressed so far by our new Swede.
He’s only been with the club a couple of days.
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Great ball in from Emi. Cam nearly on the end of it
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Their keeper looks like he hunts squirrels and chews tobacco.
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A ridiculous challenge by Digne. We’d be livid if it was the other way round.
Leeds were up in arms over the McGinn tackle, but this one was worse. Potential leg breaker
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He has the same haircut as the lead singer of The Chats. Must be a Brisbane/Australia thing.
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Not overly impressed so far by our new Swede.
He’s only been with the club a couple of days.
I could also point out that he's just flown over to Australia but it would probably fall on deaf ears.
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Their keeper looks like he hunts squirrels and chews tobacco.
Works as a mechanic during the day. Chases minorities with the local boys at night.
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their keepers hair is awful
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Their keeper looks like he hunts squirrels and chews tobacco.
Works as a mechanic during the day. Chases minorities with the local boys at night.
Has three kids, all called Skeeter. Including his daughter.
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Who still can't get a game - Sanson, Chrisene...anyone else?
Marv?
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Our long range shooting is worse than Hitler.
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I can’t believe I got up early for this.
Charlie Austin on for them
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Austin is the sort of player i always think will score against us.
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Charlie Austin on for Brisbane. Had no idea he was there. Bound to score.
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Their keeper looks like he hunts squirrels and chews tobacco.
Works as a mechanic during the day. Chases minorities with the local boys at night.
Has three kids, all called Skeeter. Including his daughter.
Who is mother to one of the Skeeters
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One of theirs, Jessie Daley, booked for a shirt pull on Jacob Ramsey.
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Not overly impressed so far by our new Swede.
He’s only been with the club a couple of days.
I could also point out that he's just flown over to Australia but it would probably fall on deaf ears.
I think he is doing ok. Linking up well down the left hand side and putting in some decent crosses.
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Buendia is too clever for the rest of the team. Except maybe Coutinho. Pretty fucking please play them TOGETHER.
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Their keeper looks like he hunts squirrels and chews tobacco.
Works as a mechanic during the day. Chases minorities with the local boys at night.
Has three kids, all called Skeeter. Including his daughter.
Who is mother to one of the Skeeters
"Their eyes are so close together, the left eye is in the right socket and the right eye is in the left"
"What does their family tree look like? A stump?"
/billhicks
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Mings looks worse than last season
Archer missed great chance, goes wide of post just in front of goal.
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Oooooh Cam close again. HKK is excellent getting forward. Cam should have scored really
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great move should have scored
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Archer should have scored. Excellent by Kesler Hayden again.
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On this showing KKH is an upgrade on Cash.
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Fucking hell Cam! :o
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Cam, that was a good chance.
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Austin was on Talksport a few weeks ago, chatting quite frankly about being released by QPR. It was a video call from a golf course, in that "We're all mates, eh Jim?" bonhomie of White and Jordan's slot on TS.
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Who still can't get a game - Sanson, Chrisene...anyone else?
Marv?
I'm sure I remember reading that we've taken 35 players on the tour with us - I'm guessing because it's about the pre-season training as much as the games themselves, so even players who aren't going to get many minutes (if any) have gone out there for the training. Even if we change every player at half-time, that's a whole other 11 and three subs STILL not getting a game.
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On this showing KKH is an upgrade on Cash.
He's looked very good, hasn't he? I suspect he's playing himself into a squad place for this season, rather than another loan. Not really being tested defensively though, obviously.
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Yesssssssssssss Cam
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Archer!!!
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Get in!
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GOOOOOAAAAAL Archer
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Goooaaaaaaalllll
Archer
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Yeah Cam, about time.
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He’s a proper striker is Cam.
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Kesler Hayden involved again, we were lucky Watkins missed it at the neat post. 😄
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Great finish Cam - and I don't think it will have gone unnoticed that he scored despite Ollie completely missing his kick five yards ahead of him...
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Well done Cam, forget the earlier miss and convert the next one.
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Fucking hell Cam!!! ;D
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We've been better in the second half, to be fair.
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Happy for him to get the chance to make up for the earlier miss. KKH has been the best player on the pitch.
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Tim - KKH - Archer. That goal was made in he Youth
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Augustinsson, worst. debut.ever. Fcuk him off back to Seville.
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We've been better in the second half, to be fair.
Different set up in that we have two more traditional midfielders who are playing a little wider. They are not getting in the way of the full backs. We look more compact. Also two forwards, Watkins in a more reserved role allowing Cam to have central position. It’s good to try different things in pre season
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Augustinsson, worst. debut.ever. Fcuk him off back to Seville.
What are you on about?
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Augustinsson, worst. debut.ever. Fcuk him off back to Seville.
Worse then Ugo v Norwich? (Wink)
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Buendia doing his nut at Ming for a hoof pass
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Ugh, horrible ball from Mings.
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Augustinsson, worst. debut.ever. Fcuk him off back to Seville.
Are you serious Eamonn!!!
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Augustinsson, worst. debut.ever. Fcuk him off back to Seville.
Are you serious Eamonn!!!
Some Swedish guy stole your spouse?
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Augustinsson, worst. debut.ever. Fcuk him off back to Seville.
Worse then Ugo v Norwich? (Wink)
And I dont think it was that bad all things considered.
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Augustinsson, worst. debut.ever. Fcuk him off back to Seville.
Are you serious Eamonn!!!
I suspect not.
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Is it me or is Emi2 being a bit more vocal about sloppy play pre-season?
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Ooh unlucky Archer. Best forward out there today.
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Lovely move again by Cam. Shoots over. Looks very up for it
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Augustinsson, worst. debut.ever. Fcuk him off back to Seville.
Are you serious Eamonn!!!
I suspect not.
I hope not, Eamonns a good guy.
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We can't let Cam go on loan again. He is ready!
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Our final ball tonight has been awful.
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Ooh unlucky Archer. Best forward out there today.
He is, he looks dangerous every time he is near the goal. Hope he gets some playing time v Manure.
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Cam brings much more to the overall play than Watkins - the ball jumps 10 meters from him every time he tries to control a ball making the play slow.
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We will be running around the Bull Ring with the cup
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I really like Irogburnam. We've gone from having no CDM's to have two rolls royce players.
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Cams goal
https://twitter.com/premiersportstv/status/1549717866756206593?s=21&t=FcjScSRqtrDAvs76Hs2Wzw
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Only joking about our new Swede. More of a chuckle at the fact a half-time sub was being subbed early on his debut(?)!
Did think Toronto would be the first to get triggered by it though ;)
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Think Watkins and Ings have played Archer out of a loan this season with their lack of effectiveness
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Doug Luiz has looked good tonight. Good link up play and some good passes.
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Nice to see our set pieces are looking ace headed into the season. If only we had a specialist coach for that
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Doug Luiz has looked good tonight. Good link up play and some good passes.
very quick on the ball. Unless Watkins who looked very poor.
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1-0 clean sheet again. Nobody injured. Goal for Cam. Job done
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We won. Mediocre first half, decent second half. Credit to Kamara, Kesler Hayden and, of course, Archer.
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An ugly win, but a win and another clean sheet. Good night everyone.
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Good goal, no injuries, some really promising second half performances from the younger players. Only really marred (relatively) by Digne’s challenge which was very poor. Happy with that. Cheers CD for the link!
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Saw most of it. Better 2nd half than 1st. Kamara looks good and Carlos assured. Buendia looked sharp, Digne rusty.
Archer looks the sharpest of the strikers, but it's only the 3rd pre-season game.
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Cams goal
https://twitter.com/premiersportstv/status/1549717866756206593?s=21&t=FcjScSRqtrDAvs76Hs2Wzw
The final angle of that makes it even more impressive. Ollie get a faint touch which changes the direction of the ball just in front of him, and he still controls it instantly and gets the quick shot away. Very good finish.
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Building fitness and understanding is all that matters here.
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so where is the trophy?
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Lovely move again by Cam. Shoots over. Looks very up for it
I suspect the coaches will point out the fairly simple pass to Watkins.
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The kids are alright.
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I don't know whether to be worried that we aren't getting more goals or be happy that we are finding a way to win anyway!
Feel sorry for the chap Digne caught, that looked nasty and I think if the ref sees that properly he'd have been off. It looked like a bite from 28 Days Later.
Bailey looked lively and he's showing off his pace.
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Building fitness and understanding is all that matters here.
Great Cher track
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Well done Cam, hope he starts against Man United, but think that's unlikely.
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Another win I'm pleased for Cameron getting the winning goal.
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Lovely move again by Cam. Shoots over. Looks very up for it
I suspect the coaches will point out the fairly simple pass to Watkins.
Maybe. But the best strikers in the world are also quite focused on scoring. It would be great if he adds the extra dimension of finding others in open space, but we need natural scorers and he is making that argument he is the best at club right now
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Ollie better watch Cam finish, or end up watching Cam finish.
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Ollie better watch Cam finish, or end up watching Cam finish.
It was a lovely goal, but in fairness he missed a couple as well. I know Ollie is not flavour of the month, but he’s scored some cracking goals for Villa.
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Archer looks like he could be a really good player but we can't rely on him just yet to be our main striker. With Watkins and Ings struggling to find the net last season and not really showing any other qualities in this pre campaign then I think a BIG decision has to be made very soon.
I would sell either of the two for a healthy sum of money and then replace them with either Suarez or somebody else.
Ideally with age on his side I would move Ings on if anybody would take him for the fee we paid ?
We have so many players that we will struggle to get rid of you really start to notice just how much money we have wasted over the years
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We would make a profit on Watkins and take a haircut on Ings.
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From what I saw (whilst trying to work at the same time), the first half was a bit drab. Bert seemed to slow the play down whenever he received the ball. Second half was much better. Well worked goal and some nice play. Archer should have had a couple and maybe should have passed for the other but that's ok, he's still learning. I really like the look of Kesler Hayden but I wonder if it's a season too soon for him?
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On this showing KKH is an upgrade on Cash.
He's looked very good, hasn't he? I suspect he's playing himself into a squad place for this season, rather than another loan. Not really being tested defensively though, obviously.
I've rated KKH for a while now. Would definitely like to see him in the squad next season. It's a bit early to be saying he's better than Cash just yet though.
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From what I saw (whilst trying to work at the same time), the first half was a bit drab. Bert seemed to slow the play down whenever he received the ball. Second half was much better. Well worked goal and some nice play. Archer should have had a couple and maybe should have passed for the other but that's ok, he's still learning. I really like the look of Kesler Hayden but I wonder if it's a season too soon for him?
I thought he looked great. Be interesting to see him against Man U. I looked the look of Chrisene when he came for a short while as well. One thing I've noticed with all the kids is that they all look good physical specimens, absolutely not intimidated whatsoever.
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We would make a profit on Watkins and take a haircut on Ings.
Ings' current wages will put off many suitors.
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Archer looks like he could be a really good player but we can't rely on him just yet to be our main striker. With Watkins and Ings struggling to find the net last season and not really showing any other qualities in this pre campaign then I think a BIG decision has to be made very soon.
I would sell either of the two for a healthy sum of money and then replace them with either Suarez or somebody else.
Ideally with age on his side I would move Ings on if anybody would take him for the fee we paid ?
We have so many players that we will struggle to get rid of you really start to notice just how much money we have wasted over the years
Who needs to be moved on that we've wasted money on?
Sanson is a confusing one but will most likely find a French club for a similar fee.
Traore - definitely looks like a waste of cash.
Ings - I'm holding judgement for now
El ghazi will go but has been a pretty decent getting us out of the championship.
Freddy - if he goes we won't have lost money on him.
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As an aside, is Townsville the worst name for a place ever or what? They’ve basically called it Town Town.
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No way is a French club paying what we did for Sanson.
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As an aside, is Townsville the worst name for a place ever or what? They’ve basically called it Town Town.
And was that the Roar's home ground as it is about 800 miles from Brisbane? Strong MK Dons / London Wasps vibes if so.
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As an aside, is Townsville the worst name for a place ever or what? They’ve basically called it Town Town.
Worse than Shitterton?
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As an aside, is Townsville the worst name for a place ever or what? They’ve basically called it Town Town.
Worse than Shitterton?
Or Twatt?
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Or Spunky Puddle, Ohio.
OK, i did just use google !
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Or Spunky Puddle, Ohio.
OK, i did just use google !
hey i was born there ! ::)
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Said it before, but had a friend that lived on Mincing Lane, Bell End.
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How did they turn-out in the end?
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As an aside, is Townsville the worst name for a place ever or what? They’ve basically called it Town Town.
See also River Avon, River Humber, Lake Tahoe, Wast Water, Mull of Kintyre, Gobi Desert, Sahara Desert, East Timor and Milky Way Galaxy. BTW it's officially the 'City of Townsville' so it's even worse than you thought.
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East Timor still sort of works as you're saying it's the Eastern bit of the Eastern place. Like how you could have Northern Northumberland or Eastern Essex.
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KKH should absolutely be Cash's back up for the season. Thought he looked very good.
Still think we are short a midfielder and possibly a striker.
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On this showing KKH is an upgrade on Cash.
He's looked very good, hasn't he? I suspect he's playing himself into a squad place for this season, rather than another loan. Not really being tested defensively though, obviously.
I've rated KKH for a while now. Would definitely like to see him in the squad next season. It's a bit early to be saying he's better than Cash just yet though.
Let Freddy run down his contract and KHH go on loan for a season in the championship (or Forest to replace Spence). He’d come back a better player than playing the odd match/minutes for us as understudy to Cash.
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Said it before, but had a friend that lived on Mincing Lane, Bell End.
Blackheath way? I know of a bell end over there, and a street called bell end for that matter.
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As an aside, is Townsville the worst name for a place ever or what? They’ve basically called it Town Town.
See also River Avon, River Humber, Lake Tahoe, Wast Water, Mull of Kintyre, Gobi Desert, Sahara Desert, East Timor and Milky Way Galaxy. BTW it's officially the 'City of Townsville' so it's even worse than you thought.
There's a hill in Cumbria called Torpenhow. Which means hillhillhill.
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Said it before, but had a friend that lived on Mincing Lane, Bell End.
Blackheath way? I know of a bell end over there, and a street called bell end for that matter.
Somewhere Yam-Yam way. Had to get taxis to drop him near his house, cos if he said his road and area, they thought he was taking the piss and would drive off
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Full match replay currently on ‘FreeSports’
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Bell End is Belbroughton way.
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This one is in Rowley Regis.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/campaign-to-change-name-of-road-named-bell-end-gets-nobbled-by-rival-campaign-to-keep-it-up-86168/
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As an aside, is Townsville the worst name for a place ever or what? They’ve basically called it Town Town.
And was that the Roar's home ground as it is about 800 miles from Brisbane? Strong MK Dons / London Wasps vibes if so.
Roar play in Brisbane. There was a short-lived ‘franchise’ in Townsville called the North Queensland Fury. They were managed by Robbie Fowler. I didn’t go well because it’s so far from anywhere and it’s rusted on egg chasing country. And they were shit.
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As an aside, is Townsville the worst name for a place ever or what? They’ve basically called it Town Town.
And was that the Roar's home ground as it is about 800 miles from Brisbane? Strong MK Dons / London Wasps vibes if so.
Roar play in Brisbane. There was a short-lived ‘franchise’ in Townsville called the North Queensland Fury. They were managed by Robbie Fowler. I didn’t go well because it’s so far from anywhere and it’s rusted on egg chasing country. And they were shit.
Surprised they didn't call the team 'Townsville Town'.
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Doug Luiz has looked good tonight. Good link up play and some good passes.
Played a crucial role in the goal with the dummy and then dragging a defender wide. We know he can do this stuff if they don't put valium in his tea.
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I know it’s still early days but I thought it was largely the same disjointed crap interspersed with the occasional good move that we saw last season. Still not convinced with Gerrard. Definitely need a new striker unless Cameron is given a chance and hits the ground running. A lot to ask of him.
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This one is in Rowley Regis.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/campaign-to-change-name-of-road-named-bell-end-gets-nobbled-by-rival-campaign-to-keep-it-up-86168/
Amazingly this road adjoins Mincing Lane too - Town planning dept having a laugh
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I know it’s still early days but I thought it was largely the same disjointed crap interspersed with the occasional good move that we saw last season. Still not convinced with Gerrard. Definitely need a new striker unless Cameron is given a chance and hits the ground running. A lot to ask of him.
Agree that being disjointed IN ATTACK might be a worry under the new regime. Under Gerrard havnet seen patterns of making attack that much? Do we relay on individuals like Phil and are in need of a new striker that can make goal on his own because of this? We do look increasingly solid defensively and as they say good teams start with solid defence. Hopefully the next step in building this team will take care of building patterns of attacking moves. Fx mc Allister known for the passing game, wasnt he?
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I think Cam could end up our main striker sooner than later. Watching him last night he was dropping deep to get involved make space and then getting into good positions to get chances on goal. He looks like a very intelligent player and already looks like he is as good as if not a better finisher than Ings and Watkins.
Unless we sign an out and out goal scorer for the season (such as Suarez), I reckon Cam will be our main striker by the end of the upcoming season.
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Full match replay currently on ‘FreeSports’
Watching it once was bad enough.
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Full match replay currently on ‘FreeSports’
Watching it once was bad enough.
It was Eamonn, didn't get to bed until midnight and still trying to recover from my trip to Brisbane. Off again on another trip to Auckland tomorrow for a gig.
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This one is in Rowley Regis.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/campaign-to-change-name-of-road-named-bell-end-gets-nobbled-by-rival-campaign-to-keep-it-up-86168/
Amazingly this road adjoins Mincing Lane too - Town planning dept having a laugh
That's superb.
The Bell End by Belbroughton is just a couple of miles from Lickey End...