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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on December 17, 2020, 05:01:12 PM
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Fuck me is this a cup game. Lots of changes. I'm worried now. No Konsa
Lets not waste that great win at Wolves now boys and get 3 points tonight and Sunday
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Oh.
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We don't exactly have very much strength in depth.
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Is Konsa injured??
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Burnley: Pope, Lowton, Taylor, Tarkowski, Mee, Brownhill, Westwood, McNeil, Brady, Rodriguez, Wood
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Konsa injured, I assume? Any idea when Barkley will be back? He's in danger of taking Ron Vlaar's record for longest period being one game away from returning.
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I would much rather he played Elmo in the middle and Freddie RB than Hause a completely left footed CB playing on the right, or even Mings for that matter. Fuck me
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Hause is a liability.
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Let’s hope the ball spends most of its time up front with the attacking players because the defence is crap
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Yikes. Frankenteam.
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Bloody hell. Good luck fellas.
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Whenever one of our lot is close to a return, naturally add 4 to 5 games on top of that.
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Team looks incredibly poor without Barkley, Konsa, Luiz and Trez in it.
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I would much rather he played Elmo in the middle and Freddie RB than Hause a completely left footed CB playing on the right, or even Mings for that matter. Fuck me
Nah, that sounds like trying to put square pegs in round holes to me. If Konsa is out the choice is between Hause and Engels, not trying to shoehorn an extra full back in there. I prefer Engels but, being a Villa played, he is probably carrying a knock.
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Ramsey Engels and Guilbert all on the bench all should be on the pitch
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Not a worrying line up. Weak midfield. Smith hoping that El Ghazi will be inspired after scoring the pen against Wolves.
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I'm lying in a hospital bed looking for some cheering team news and I see this. Wtaf.
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Hause's best attribute is his power in the air. Would back him against Wood more than Mings.
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Half the fucking first-team outfield players out. Fuck sake, Nakamba and Hause are utter shit. It's going to be a long hard slog tonight. Traore needs to get up to speed and put a shift in, the same as El Ghazi, get fucking stuck in. Let's hope in the last 6 months Nakamba has learned how to pass a ball to a teammate.
Very underconfident about tonight now looking at that team.
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Hause's best attribute is his power in the air. Would back him against Wood more than Mings.
Exactly what I was thinking
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I would much rather he played Elmo in the middle and Freddie RB than Hause a completely left footed CB playing on the right, or even Mings for that matter. Fuck me
Elmo played RCB against Stoke in that cup game and was awful. Hause will be ok in the air but passing the ball into midfield is going to be a real challenge tonight with him at RCB.
That midfield selection is horrible. 424 effectively , maybe Grealish is going to drop in centrally tonight but we look completely unbalanced . Bench is very weak too
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Team looks incredibly poor without Barkley, Konsa, Luiz and Trez in it.
Don't forget Cash.
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Well, we knew two changes were going to happen but Konsa being out is disappointing. Good to see Davis back though.
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If ever a line up reinforced the need for extra quality in the squad!
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Don't forget Cash.
How much do I owe you?
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In fairness, Burnley will probably send a lot of high balls into the area so Hause will be a better choice than Engels.
But, on the whole, that team has a horrible 'last season' whiff about it.
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Powder puff midfield - shows the lack of depth. Game could go either way
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Just got to hope the forward players turn up tonight
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It's still a better team than won up there on New Years Day!!
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Hause's best attribute is his power in the air. Would back him against Wood more than Mings.
Exactly what I was thinking
Likewise
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Very worried after seeing that line up .i see Davies is actually on the bench
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Thought Hotlips would get a run out though, harsh on him.
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Powder puff midfield - shows the lack of depth. Game could go either way
I don't think McGinn, Nakamba and JG is powder puff: it WILL require AEG and Traore to work their nuts off.
I'd like to have seen Ramsey continue, though; and Hourihane may have deserved a start.
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Looks like 4 2 3 1 to me with Jack more central which I like.
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Team looks incredibly poor without Barkley, Konsa, Luiz and Trez in it.
Don't forget Cash.
I didn't forget him. Guilbert could have easily replaced him tonight if he wasn't getting treated like crap.
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The problem for Smith is to win a game where we are expected to win. Odds on favourites for the first time in a long while to win a home game so more worried now,
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They'll target corners and free kicks. Mee, Tarkowski, Wood, Brady, Rodriguez.
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Konsa is ill apparently.
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I would much rather he played Elmo in the middle and Freddie RB than Hause a completely left footed CB playing on the right, or even Mings for that matter. Fuck me
Nah, that sounds like trying to put square pegs in round holes to me. If Konsa is out the choice is between Hause and Engels, not trying to shoehorn an extra full back in there. I prefer Engels but, being a Villa played, he is probably carrying a knock.
I don't even know if Engels is an option because last report he wasn't ready. So Konsa has come down with something and we are going with Hause tonight. In fact I would bet if one of our CB's got hurt tonight what I advocated would happen and Engels would not come on.
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They'll target corners and free kicks. Mee, Tarkowski, Wood, Brady, Rodriguez.
Hence playing Hause: he's a decent header of the ball.
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Konsa is ill apparently.
Let's hope it's your bog standard common cold and not anything worse...
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You can see why we vote against 5 subs. Come on Villa!
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That looks very last season to me.
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I wouldn’t be at all confident with that team against most others in this league
But it’s Burnley they’re 3rd from bottom
you’ve got to hope we’ve still got enough especially up front even with that severely weakened side
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Konsa is ill apparently.
Let's hope it's your bog standard common cold and not anything worse...
I'm guessing that if it were the illness de le jour, then we'd have a lot more out and the game wouldn't be happening.
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Could do without Konsa being out. Knowing Villa we'll now go and hammer them.
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I'm lying in a hospital bed looking for some cheering team news and I see this. Wtaf.
Hope they win for you!
Both Ramsey and Hourihane should be in ahead of Traore on all form this season.
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I'll be happy with 4 points from the next 2 games so draw tonight will be fine. Plenty more options come Sunday team wise.
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That bench is like being back in the Championship.
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Hause's best attribute is his power in the air. Would back him against Wood more than Mings.
He has more than one attribute....!?
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My expectations have plummeted for this one.
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How could Barkley fuck himself up so much just taking a free kick early in a game?
Not warming up properly?
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If it’s not Savage, why do we get another nose doing the punditry? Grrr.
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Thought Hotlips would get a run out though, harsh on him.
Smith is hoping Traore will play himself into form it seems, which is risky business. Not that either Ramsey or Hourihane were going to provide much presence in midfield tonight but we look far too open with effectively a front four
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Don’t like the look of that team one bit. I’d take the draw now.
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We could switch to 4-4-2 with that team.
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That bench is like being back in the Championship.
The starting 11 does too..
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That bench is like being back in the Championship.
And the back 4 and midfield 3. ;)
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Ramsey Engels and Guilbert all on the bench all should be on the pitch
Gotta disagree there. Engels and Guilbert been nowhere near the team for ages. And i'm not sure Ramsey would be up to the physical challenge Burnley bring just four days after Wolves. The bench is threadbare but we knew this already.
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Konsa is ill they said on my stream with Sherwood and Hargraves in the studio (talking about Man U not our game as they are supposed to)
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Hause's best attribute is his power in the air. Would back him against Wood more than Mings.
He has more than one attribute....!?
He's a grime artist in his spare time apparently!
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Konsa is ill. My mate in the know says possible c-19... waiting on test result.
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That bench is like being back in the Championship.
The starting 11 does too..
Get a grip. Some of the starting 11 might be iffy but theres a lot of talent on there too. Jack, McGinn, Mings and Martinez must be worth well over 150 million between them. That would be some championship 11.
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Ramsey Engels and Guilbert all on the bench all should be on the pitch
Gotta disagree there. Engels and Guilbert been nowhere near the team for ages. And i'm not sure Ramsey would be up to the physical challenge Burnley bring just four days after Wolves. The bench is threadbare but we knew this already.
Agree to an extent, although I'd have considered a combo of Elmo and Freddie on the right to counter Burnley's physical approach before bringing Traore on later.
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Agree to an extent, although I'd have considered a combo of Elmo and Freddie on the right to counter Burnley's physical approach before bringing Traore on later.
Today Smith is going to do a reverse O'Neill by taking off a midfielder and moving the right back in to his position.
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No goals for Jay Rodriguez this season, I'm told. Well...
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I suppose this was inevitable at some point and further highlights where we are in our evolution. We are better than last season but clearly below the hard shell of our best XI it’s a bit soft. That said these players need to take their chance and prove they can be a part of the future. Last time our vs Stoke a number of them really let themselves down. And the manager let them know about it. Tonight it is a chance for them to make amends.
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No goals for Jay Rodriguez this season, I'm told. Well...
Right, if that happens
I’m blaming you 100%
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That bench is like being back in the Championship.
The starting 11 does too..
Then again, we're not exactly up against Brazil '82 here.
You'd probably take one of their centre backs over Hause, find a space for McNeil somewhere. Maybe Westwood over Nakamba?
We should still be winning this, even with a depleted team.
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Well Burnley aren’t coming to take the game to us tonight
they will play their normal game of being cautiously defensive and rely on set pieces
so hopefully there might not be a load of defending to do
I’m clinging to that hope anyway for now
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Come on Villa!!
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Come on you Villa boys!
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Don’t give away stupid free kicks tonight
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Excuse my stupidity where is game on tv
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So apparently a realistic ambition for us is to feel as if we belong in the Premier League - according to the commentator
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I see the thug Mee is their captain.
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Excuse my stupidity where is game on tv
Amazon Prime
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Excuse my stupidity where is game on tv
Amazon Prime
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Nakamba , ffs
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What price Ben Mee to crock Grealish for the rest of the season tonight?
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Amazon prime bag of shit. Constant buffering.
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Hesgoal
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Amazon prime bag of shit. Constant buffering.
Unlucky you - mine's fine
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My Amazon’s doing just fine. So far, quite nice to watch the game on a big screen for a change.
Sadly have to go to work at 21:00, so no beer for me tonight.
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RMC Sports via satellite here in France.
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We’ve started well
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Set piece specialists strike again
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Mings being Mings
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Lovely turn El Ghazi
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It doesn't feel like these short corners ever work.
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So getting the ball first only works when it's an opposition player?
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AEG looking up for this
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Just getting a quick 'FFS!' in just in case.
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These are the games we need to win to ensure we maintain ample breathing space.
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2 piss poor passes from Targett.
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2 piss poor passes from Targett.
Yes very rusty
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Shit so far, too slow and passing is all over the place
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Bit late gone from work, why are we playing Watford?
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Defence parted like Moses was playing.
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2 piss poor passes from Targett.
Yes very rusty
But still be weighed down by having Traore in his pocket
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Picked us off there, very close. Has Brighton written all over it
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We are very very sloppy in possession
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A pointless observation but this could be a record for the most left footers in a Villa starting 11?
I’m counting 6 of the 10 outfield players. Mings, Targett, Hause, McGinn, Nakamba and Traore.
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If Burnley go down we need to nick McNeill
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How slow was Traore then???
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FFS Traore
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Traore - wtf. Harder to miss!
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Martinez with a good save
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Fuck me! Should've scored there.
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Brilliant save by Emi. Great header from Woods
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Yesuz f c.... Traore misses good then good save Emi
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Fucking wake up Hause.
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McGinn is having a stinker. A defensive midfielder he is not.
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Hause has taken root.
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If only Traore had more than 1 left leg he would score
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We need to press them like they are doing to us. Their midfield players have far more time than ours
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It’s a fine save by Emi - it’s dismal by Hause and Elmo.
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Great save by Emi.
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Please, someone tell me, what does Traore have to offer us? He has no right foot! No touch.
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I'm not sure if that was a great save from Martinez or 'one for the cameras'.
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Targett bad pass again
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Targett needs to wake up
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Please, someone tell me, what does Traore have to offer us? He has no right foot! No touch.
Said if before, I can’t see what the scouting team saw him in at all.
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Looking decent enough going forward, but we look wide open in midfield when defending.
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Hause without a shit to give there.
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Come on villa, Burnley are getting more into this.
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That was shite Traore
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Traore should have done better there. Get the cross in versus a weak shot.
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Traore a big disappointment so far.
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Traore thinks he is Robben
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Why does the ****** never get booked for deliberate handball?
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Rodriquez hand ball.....there’s a fucking surprise
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Have a fucking shot ffs.
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Terrible play.
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Take as long as you like, goalkeeper. Referee isn't booking any away players today.
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Trying to walk it into the net.
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Please, someone tell me, what does Traore have to offer us? He has no right foot! No touch.
Said if before, I can’t see what the scouting team saw him in at all.
I like him but I suspect he will be inconsistent and frustrating.
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Can't believe that didn't find its way in. ☹
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No dynamism or pace in our play, Traore is at walking pace!!
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Off the line again. This time Lowton. Fuck. Should be 1-0.
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Filth from Burnley again
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I Fcukin hate playing these cnuts. Bunch of useless cloggers. And can that useless prick Beglin stop Fcukin wanking over them just because we beat Liverpool 7-2.
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They’re a side full of niggly snide fuckers.
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Shocking challenge from Brady there
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That's a fucking penalty. Where is the VAR for the shove on Traore?
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Bit laboured at the mo.
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Jeez, going to have to turn the volume off on Amazon Prime in a bit. Tyldesley and Beglin are.beyond negative.
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This was never going to be a pretty game.
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The ref looks suspiciously like Ashley Westwood.
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Two vars against us so far. Brady should’ve gone for that.
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It’s really not difficult to remember what a ****** tyldesley is, is it?
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Fucking Allardyce and his gang next as well
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Lots of McGinn arse spins tonight.
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This is painfully mediocre.
I’d get Ramsey on for the are you actually a footballer Nakamba.
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No booking for that, either? This is a bit different to the Wolves game.
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Ben Mee. What a weapons grade Scunthorpe
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Feckijg Mee getting away with another
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How is that not a yellow?
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How the f is that NOT a card for Mee?
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Mee what a ******.
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I wish some fucker would break Mee.
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Why was Mee not carded for that?!!
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Bar!
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No yellow card. Ridiculous.
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Oooooffff
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Fcuk me this has got 0-1 written all over it.
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Then again, we're not exactly up against Brazil '82 here.
The BBC text is making it sound like Brazil '82 are playing yet here the vibe seem to be that it's terrible stuff. ???
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Best moment of the match
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Well done Traore. We nearly lost a goal because we will not fucking shoot.
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No booking for that, either? This is a bit different to the Wolves game.
The inconsistency of the refereeing is scandalous, really, given they are professionals.
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Then again, we're not exactly up against Brazil '82 here.
The BBC text is making it sound like Brazil '82 are playing yet here the vibe seem to be that it's terrible stuff. ???
Definitely a game to he watched on Teletext.
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Well done Traore.
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I have no idea what any of you are talking about.. we're walking into their third at will.
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Terrible Mings, but excellent tracking back by Traore.
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Burnley freekick in a dangerous place
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Great covering from Traore
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This is the match thread. Not the best place for positive vibes.
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No urgency from us.
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All this from Mings dive. Idiot.
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How was that not a yellow card? Nearly caught on the break again.
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Bloody living dangerously; seems bizarre that we do so at home.
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Straight at Emi. We go again.
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I worry if these absolute cloggers score first we won’t get back into this.
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Game getting jiggly now
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Ref not a fan of Marvelous
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I worry if these absolute cloggers score first we won’t get back into this.
That tends to be a theme this season.
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I think some people are watching a different game. Burnley have done fcuk all up to that free kick.
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I worry if these absolute cloggers score first we won’t get back into this.
Yep, shut up shop. They are hard to break down anyway.
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So much time wasting
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Ollie gently strokes one at Pope
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Be nice to have a chance from one of our seventy corners.
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Pathetic effort Ollie
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Reminds me of the Sheffield game. Except they’ve still got 11 on.
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Woodwork again. Gonna be one of those days.
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Post!
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McGinn's played well so far.
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Off the fucking post from Hause FUCK
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Come on. Make it count!
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How haven't we scored?!
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Pope looking infallible.
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Off the woodwork again.
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The Jack volley move nearly came off
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Just once I would like to see us Fcukin thrash one of these useless clogging Cnut of teams.
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Traore hits a sweet set piece.
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To be fair, we haven’t looked bad considering a lot of our regular starters aren’t playing
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No way these fucking donkeys are keeping 11 on the pitch.
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Maybe got lucky getting a free kick, there.
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Traore has been shit
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How many attempts on goal have we had?
Half time
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No foul from Tarkowski there.
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Jack needs to roll around with those challenges - make a real meal of it
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We had plenty of chances. I’m confident we will convert one in the second half. That was a good first half.
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This football from Burnley is real dinosaur/dark age stuff. Pitifully bad, hopefully we can slot a couple past pope.
They're not even that disciplined defensively. Just sticking legs and hips out there.
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Not sure why there’s so much negativity on here. We’re clearly the better team, in control of the game and could easily be at least 1-0 up at half time with the chances we’ve had.
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This has got 1 nil Burnley written all over it. We’ve been ok, haven’t had much luck.
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How unlucky can u get. Hit the bar twice and one cleared off the line.
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Burnley spend the entire game time wasting, one minute added on. Thanks a fucking lot.
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This has only served to further confirm that I never ever want Dyche near our football club in the future.
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Miles the better side. Hit the post, bar, had one off the line and without being our fluid self. Burnley are here to spoil, nothing more.
We need quicker transitions in our play. I'd give it 10 and bring Hourihane on for one of the wide men and push Jack further up.
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AEG has done okay; Hause has not embarrassed himself; Elmo looks fine; Nakamba hasn't been too bad
We just need to find a good final pass and stop being so sloppy when they are attacking.
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Hause has been very good so far
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Given the number of changes we have had to make and given the type of team we are up against, I think we have done OK going forward and created a number of chances. We look way too open when defending though, especially in midfield.
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I fucking hate Burnley,
Time wasting, bus parking, snidey fouling, bunch of fucking ******.
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The ref looks suspiciously like Ashley Westwood.
I thought that - Have they ever been in the same room together. Suspicious indeed.
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Need to cut out these short corners not one has worked, first time we got it in the box from a corner Hause nearly scored.
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Need to win this. Only way Burnley are scoring is from a free kick or fuck up. They are a throw back of a team what with the punted free kicks from half way line.
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From the BBC
Aston Villa attempted 16 shots in the first half against Burnley, the most by any side without scoring in the opening 45 minutes of a Premier League match since Chelsea had 17 without finding the net v Brighton in September 2019.
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This football from Burnley is real dinosaur/dark age stuff. Pitifully bad, hopefully we can slot a couple past pope.
I bet the ball's glad it's got fifteen minutes off. I honestly thought of turning off the fx when they had that free kick on the half way line to see if I could hear Dyche yelling "get it in the mixer".
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Not sure why there’s so much negativity on here. We’re clearly the better team, in control of the game and could easily be at least 1-0 up at half time with the chances we’ve had.
Agreed. We have done ok. Woodwork struck 3 times. I do bloody hate these cloggers though.
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Just need Ollie to get in behind these bus drivers one time!
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16 shots and 5 on target
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This has only served to further confirm that I never ever want Dyche near our football club in the future.
I said exactly this to the Mrs. Not sure she knew what I was on about though.
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Nakamba giving to many free kicks away
Traore has no product end or otherwise
some changes needed as we need to score first or we’re in trouble
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We're the better side here by a country mile. Surprised they've still got 11 players on the pitch.
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Hit the woodwork twice, one cleared off the line and a possible handball and a blatant push in the area ignored by both ref and VAR. Our arse is hanging out waiting to be bitten here.
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This has got 1 nil Burnley written all over it. We’ve been ok, haven’t had much luck.
Jay Rod has 0 goals and 0 assists so far this season, hmmm.
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we;ve dominated the game hit the woodwork twice. it's only a matter of time before we score. Traore has been better than I expected. He should of hit that big chance first time though. El Gazi looks great aswell.
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So unlucky with the two hitting the woodwork.
We can do this, but we’ll have to be so careful at the back. First goal could win it.
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Nakamba giving to many free kicks away
Traore has no product end or otherwise
some changes needed as we need to score first or we’re in trouble
He's got a decent left-footed in-swinger..
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Looks like a game between a side who have made 4 changes against a bunch of cloggers hoping to nick it 1-0.
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Then again, we're not exactly up against Brazil '82 here.
The BBC text is making it sound like Brazil '82 are playing yet here the vibe seem to be that it's terrible stuff. ???
Definitely a game to he watched on Teletext.
Half time. Just enough time to put Teletext on for the music news and write down a recipe for my mum. :)
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we've played well
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This ref is a prick...he penalised Grealish for a perfect tackle early on & has just done the same to Tarkowski. He needs to go back to ref school & learn what is a clear foul & what is not.
The build up is too slow. It is a bit like last year get the ball to Jack & stand back and watch he do something. Traore is a waste of space. He looks the ultimate Laconic Luxury player.
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Burnley spend the entire game time wasting, one minute added on. Thanks a fucking lot.
It's infuriating . We don't seem to have anywhere enough footballs on the side of the pitch either. Every throw in is taking at least a minute
AEG has been very impressive. Hause has been fine. Need a lot more from Traore and Watkins. Neither of them have been sharp at critical moments. We have hit post twice and one cleared off line. Grealish dropping a little too deep at times but maybe he has to.
Burnley still dangerous on the counter attack. McNeill giving Elmo a bit of a chasing and Nakamba is struggling with runners off him.
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Horrible game horrible team.
Could be any result,
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Was there a handball against Jay Rod? Didn't see it played back.
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Just need to keep Dwight McNeil quiet.
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Jack needs to roll around with those challenges - make a real meal of it
That Mee challenge was diabolical and predictable...not even a yellow
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Was there a handball against Jay Rod? Didn't see it played back.
yep, cheating xxxx as usual
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AEG has been very impressive. Hause has been fine. Need a lot more from Traore and Watkins. Neither of them have been sharp at critical moments. We have hit post twice and one cleared off line. Grealish dropping a little too deep at times but maybe he has to.
Burnley still dangerous on the counter attack. McNeill giving Elmo a bit of a chasing and Nakamba is struggling with runners off him.
Completely my take as well.
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Heading for 0-1 imho.
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He caught it two handed. Not even the slightest consideration of a booking from the biased official for North Brexitshire.
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Jack needs to roll around with those challenges - make a real meal of it
That Mee challenge was diabolical and predictable...not even a yellow
That was a clear a yellow card as you can get, yet nothing. Does Mee have to rearrange someone’s knee before he gets in trouble? Oh no, he’s done that too.
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Tim Sherwood praising us at half time and particularly El Ghazi.
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Heading for 0-1 imho.
We have been very poor IMO - some nice passing but honestly, in 45 mins against a very poor side, we have troubled Pope maybe twice (and thats being generous). The team looks very imbalanced which is a result of the lack of depth. I'd prefer he take Traore off at HT, bring Ramsey into the centre to bring a bit of steel, and push McGinn slightly further forward.
Keep going like this and we will lose this game.
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How wasn't that dirty ****** Mee booked?
I don't wish injuries on players, but...
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I think we have been good. Hause and Elmo good. Also Watkins and Grealish. And Martinez. Nakamba dosent fill me with confidence. Burnley are what they are. Probably much of the same second leg. Stubborn defence from the legs of Mee and the other, woodwork hits from us, briliant saves from Pope, hoping we get a goal or two and then they suddenly have a megachance scoring or not on counter or deadball. Can go either way but we are the better/ a good team tonight also I think and that good to see.
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This ref is a prick...he penalised Grealish for a perfect tackle early on & has just done the same to Tarkowski. He needs to go back to ref school & learn what is a clear foul & what is not.
The build up is too slow. It is a bit like last year get the ball to Jack & stand back and watch he do something. Traore is a waste of space. He looks the ultimate Laconic Luxury player.
The scene was set in the tunnel before the game. Jack approached the ref to say hello with a fist pump, ref just ignored him.
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We have been very poor IMO - some nice passing but honestly, in 45 mins against a very poor side, we have troubled Pope maybe twice (and thats being generous).
Yet but for a difference of six inches (a couple of inches of the frame of the goal) we could be 3-0 up.
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Eight seconds, crunch. Start as you mean to go on, Burnley.
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We need to shoot much more quickly. By the time we've worked a 'better' position their box is like Piccadilly Circus.
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We have been very poor IMO - some nice passing but honestly, in 45 mins against a very poor side, we have troubled Pope maybe twice (and thats being generous).
Yet but for a difference of six inches (a couple of inches of the frame of the goal) we could be 3-0 up.
and we could as easily be 2-0 down. If you don't trouble the goalkeeper, you wont win games
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Vintage McGinn bumskills there, unrewarded.
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I think this shows we need to get into the transfer market in January.
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First corner for them. Here we go.
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We have been very poor IMO - some nice passing but honestly, in 45 mins against a very poor side, we have troubled Pope maybe twice (and thats being generous).
Yet but for a difference of six inches (a couple of inches of the frame of the goal) we could be 3-0 up.
and we could as easily be 2-0 down. If you don't trouble the goalkeeper, you wont win games
Jeez, we could / should have scored 3 or 4 in the first half!
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Bundle!!
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FFS!
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We have been very poor IMO - some nice passing but honestly, in 45 mins against a very poor side, we have troubled Pope maybe twice (and thats being generous).
Yet but for a difference of six inches (a couple of inches of the frame of the goal) we could be 3-0 up.
and we could as easily be 2-0 down. If you don't trouble the goalkeeper, you wont win games
I'd say that a keeper tipping a shot onto the cross bar and a defender heading a shot of the line is closer than a couple of easy takes for Martinez, but you do you.
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Aaaagh why do we always try to stroke it in when you need a big old whack.
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Traore you are fucking shit.
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2 good chances
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We’re not scoring here
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Fuck me Traore. Shoot the fucking ball. We are wasting so many chances.
Another one for Watkins
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Fucking gotta score
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he's useless!
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Great awareness from Grealish
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Free kick. Fucking score!
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Ok make something happen here Villa. Good free kick opportunity
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Just fucking score!
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TAKE TRAORE OFF, DEAN!!! He is gash.
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A shout out for Elmo. The guy never let's us down when called on.Top professional.
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Free kick. Fucking score!
We didn't. 😔
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Traore has to come off
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TAKE TRAORE OFF, DEAN!!! He is gash.
You're gash.
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Traore you are fucking shit.
Doesn't trust his right foot. Not good for an expensive player.
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Why doesn't Traore shoot there? It's on his left foot.
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too casual by traore. put your laces through it!
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FFS!
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Good work by Traore there from a hospital pass. He has a few tricks about him, just has no composure at their end.
And nearly from El Ghazi, has probably been our best player.
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Shame Dean isn’t ref for this one
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That was close. El ghazi.
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Well on top now, have to make it count
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El Ghazi looks up for it at least.
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FFFFFFUUUUUUCCCKKKK Score FFS. AEG wide
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Dah! i thought that was going in.
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Our decision making at critical points in the last third isn’t good enough. We need to be much mire clinical than we are currently.
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Why hasn't AEG scored!! At least hit the target!
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I really dont like watching Burnley. It's like watching Tiny Penis's Stoke. Without the frills.
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Has Dyche had the same cold since birth?
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There seems to have been about 5000 throw ins tonight
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TAKE TRAORE OFF, DEAN!!! He is gash.
Is that necessary?
You're gash.
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It is all Villa but we are making poor decisions with our final ball.
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That was a good effort. AEG definitely has got something, but he’s obviously a confidence player
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Wonder if Davis will get a run around, with Ollie / Jack going out wide
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Too many players playing to their level AEG Traore Nakamba. Not good enough making hard work of a very ordinary Burnley sloggers.
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Destined not to score tonight.
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El Ghazi will win this for us.
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Wonder if Davis will get a run around, with Ollie / Jack going out wide
I think he might. Not a bad idea.
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TAKE TRAORE OFF, DEAN!!! He is gash.
Is that necessary?
You're gash.
No it isn't.
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El Ghazi will win this for us.
He wants to score so bad. Looks like he really wants to earn first team football.. honestly, I love to see it.
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FFS!
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Traore needs to stay on his fucking feet. A gust of wind blows him over
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This is making my eyes bleed. I fucking hate sides like Burnley who offer nothing and drag us down to their level.
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Just the 18 shots for us so far...
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FFS!
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Were going to fucking lose this, aren't we?
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Fucking score!
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A SCORCHIO would be nice.
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How many more shots do we need?
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More corners
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Can there be another team that so easily gets dragged down to their level whenever we play cloggers?
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How many more shots do we need?
Not many if they were on target.
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This is just garbage and a really hard watch, Im off and will check back at full time no doubt to see us having lost to a long ball punt that goes wrong at the back for us. Ropey win for Burnley written all over it for me. Tara
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Pope's excellent.
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A kick in the bollocks is coming isn’t it?
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Time for a change.
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I have seen enough of Traore
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Traore is pretty fucking gash isn’t he
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Please take Traore off. Please.
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The combination of a speculative Burnley shot and Amazon Prime deciding to buffer meant that I just got to eat my dinner for the second time.
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This is just garbage and a really hard watch, Im off and will check back at full time no doubt to see us having lost to a long ball punt that goes wrong at the back for us. Ropey win for Burnley written all over it for me. Tara
???
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A kick in the bollocks is coming isn’t it?
I'm preparing myself for it. Legs crossed.
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AEG poor, ffs
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The more I see of this the more Burnley should be in League 1.
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Fucking hit the fucking thing!
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Oh Anwar
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El ******** Ghazi.
Has to score there.
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Anwar ffs.
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El ghazi better keep off social media again after that
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Wanker
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A kick in the bollocks is coming isn’t it?
I'm preparing myself for it. Legs crossed.
Feels inevitable
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Put a bloody foot through it for fecks sake
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Fucking hell El Ghazi has been wasteful tonight - awful at times.
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Anwar is shite.
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Battering them but just no quality.
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Only our piss poor finishing is to blame if we don’t win this.
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Oh come on El Ghazi put your foot through it.
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One of those days
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How many chances does El.Ghazi want?
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Anwar is shite.
Don’t be a twat, he’s been doing alright tonight
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Wonder if Davis will get a run around, with Ollie / Jack going out wide
I'd try it. Maybe get Hourihane on aswell as our set pieces haven't been that great bar the one for Hause header off the post.
Not a bad performance at all but edging towards an incredibly frustrating 0-0 so let's not just sit on our hands.
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AEG and Traore have been to the Trezeguet school of finishing
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El Ghazi will win this for us.
He is working hard but he has missed some chances Harry Redknapp's missus would have scored.
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I’d rather Jack tried a few himself. There’s no one else on the pitch who looks likely to score.
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Commentator letching over Jack's legs has been my highlight so far.
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This match is frustrating.
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Make a change Dean.
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This is the type of performance that would turn Jack's head.
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Commentator letching over Jack's legs has been my highlight so far.
What channel are you watching!
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Get Hot Lips and Ramsey on for Traore and Marvelous, please.
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Traore just booted it anywhere under no pressure.
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Commentator letching over Jack's legs has been my highlight so far.
What channel are you watching!
Babestation.
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Why do I see Burnley scoring?
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Traore is just poncing around now...time to be hooked
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Get Hot Lips and Ramsey on for Traore and Marvelous, please.
Traore and El Ghazi you mean
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Mings gonna Mings
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Get Hot Lips and Ramsey on for Traore and Marvelous, please.
Traore and El Ghazi you mean
No.
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Shite Elmo.
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The 4 changes have really impacted us
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I do like Martinez
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Mee own goal right about now would be pretty good
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Get Hot Lips and Ramsey on for Traore and Marvelous, please.
Traore and El Ghazi you mean
No.
Dear me
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El Ghazi again...
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Oh Anwar
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GET AEG OFF FFS
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El ghazi is being a fucking greedy wasteful ****** now
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I hate to say it but i don't want us to pass to Traore if we can help it.
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At least Anwar has been trying tonight. They’ve not been great tries in the majority, but at least he’s trying
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El Ghazi off for me. No composure tonight.
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You waster, AEG!!!
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Hause dug us out of a hole there.
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El Ghazi scores one penalty and he thinks he's Ronaldo.
Time for a change Deano.
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Hot Lips
Wasn't her out of M*A*S*H called "Houlihan"?
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Our shooting seems to be set in random mode.
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Oh Anwar oh Anwar you’re not the greatest no you’re not oh Anwar oh Anwar...
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At least Anwar has been trying tonight. They’ve not been great tries in the majority, but at least he’s trying
he is trying - a little too hard at times, needs to get his head up in some situations
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He has proven today why he is a squad player at best at this level. He needs to come off or his confidence will be fucked permanently.
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Hot Lips
Wasn't her out of M*A*S*H called "Houlihan"?
You can spoil anything with facts.
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At least Anwar has been trying tonight. They’ve not been great tries in the majority, but at least he’s trying
Incredibly trying.
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El Ghazi has played really well right up until he's had to have any of his 47 shots.
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Can’t believe some people wanted Dyche to replace Smith, what a shithouse football club we’d be.
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Grealish into the side netting.
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Hot Lips
Wasn't her out A*S*H called "Houlihan"?
Close enough
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It might need a McGinn 30 yarder.
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Please take Traore off
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How many chances to we want?!
This has got a last minute defeat written all over it.
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Traore is truly shite.
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Oh Jack
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Wtf is this with McGinn stopping , then using ass to shield with?
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El Ghazi.One of the most frustrating performances I've ever seen from a Villa player. He looks amazing at times but his finishing tonight? Omfg. Grrrrrrr
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Trying, probing but to many players not up to the required quality I’m afraid
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At least Anwar has been trying tonight. They’ve not been great tries in the majority, but at least he’s trying to
Incredibly trying.
Fuck me he’s been excellent, just lacked the final composure. If he wins this for us you lot will have serious egg on your faces
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Make a fucking sub for fuck sake.
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There's fucking hundreds of the bastards in the way when we do play with a bit of pace.
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Wtf is this with McGinn stopping , then using ass to shield with?
I know. Works great don't it?
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Make a fucking sub for fuck sake.
Does seem a bit odd that it has taken this long.
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Burnley are even worse to watch than Stoke under Pulis imo. At least they had some entertainment with the Delap long throws.
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Traore? Piss-poory more like. Shite, utter shite.
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El ghazi looks knackered but oh no no subs no siree.
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Lesser Spotted Keenan?
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Hot Lips
Wasn't her out of M*A*S*H called "Houlihan"?
You can spoil anything with facts.
I only pointed it out in the hope you'd stop it!
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How many fcuking chances arrrrreeeghhhh
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Davis on for Traore.
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At least Anwar has been trying tonight. They’ve not been great tries in the majority, but at least he’s trying to
Incredibly trying.
Fuck me he’s been excellent, just lacked the final composure. If he wins this for us you lot will have serious egg on your faces
Not questioning his effort, just the end product.
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Ebbing away
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It just aint going to happen is it.
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Thank fuck for that, Traore off.
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Hot Lips
Wasn't her out of M*A*S*H called "Houlihan"?
You can spoil anything with facts.
I only pointed it out in the hope you'd stop it!
That hurts. ☹
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Wtf is this with McGinn stopping , then using ass to shield with?
Kenny Dalglish always used to do it. Maybe it is a Scottish thing. We must have had 70% possession tonight and countless more chances than Burnley.
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I can be a critic of Anwar. But he has been good tonight - just needs his shooting boots on.
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Just need Keinan to get hold of it in the final third and lay it off to someone else to finish!
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Burnley are even worse to watch than Stoke under Pulis imo. At least they had some entertainment with the Delap long throws.
Agreed, a very poor mans Stoke.
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35 minutes too late, Dean. Frick.
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Come on Davis. Score your first premier league goal.
Last minute winners are where it’s at!
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Hot Lips
Wasn't her out of M*A*S*H called "Houlihan"?
You can spoil anything with facts.
I only pointed it out in the hope you'd stop it!
That hurts. ☹
Oh no! Now I feel bad. :-\
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Frustrating with all the chances hardly any have fallen to Ollie so far.
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Yeay, we’ve replaced a winger who can’t cross with a striker who can’t score ...
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Oh God looks like Davis is playing out wide
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Clogger Mee again.
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Ben Mee is a dirty dirty...
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Mee, dirty fu*ker.
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****** wanker mee.
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Fcuk Mee!
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Watkins booked for coming back on without permission
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Watkins booked for coming back on without permission
He might have got away with it if he hadn't dribbled the ball twenty yards towards their goal. He would make a rubbish ninja.
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Oh God looks like Davis is playing out wide
Don't get that logic, Watkins is pretty decent out wide as he's shown in little plays this season. Good technically and can beat a full back.
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Burnley = Wimbledon of the 90's
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Smith should have hooked Anwar and Traore about 30 mins ago.
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Bit unfair we’re down to 10 for a few mins while Ollie gets sorted.
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Watkins booked for coming back on without permission
Cheap card when you see what these thugs have got away with.
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Did Mee get a booking there?
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Burnley = Wimbledon of the 90's
Nowhere near that good, not by a million miles.
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Did Mee get a booking there?
Yes
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Did Mee get a booking there?
You? No
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Did Mee get a booking there?
You? No
Yes Mee.
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Still no booking for Mee. He could quite easily be off by now.
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Fuuuiuck. Nearly from Mings.
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Ben Mee. Again.
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Traore is truly shite.
No he isn't. He really isn't.
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Mings heads just wide
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Did Mee get a booking there?
You? No
Yes Mee.
Mee then
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One of those nights where we could play till midnight and not score.
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Oh for gods sake. Nearly. Nearly nearly.
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If we can't hit the target
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Mee is such a dirty twat.
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Card for Old nothing for Mee!
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Watkins has been rubbish today. Much too weak.
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Mee is such a dirty twat.
Innit.
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Plenty of chances created, almost all wasted by piss poor attempts.
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For crying out loud! Come on!
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We can play until next year and we will not score. This is so frustrating
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Another fucking chance gone begging. Nowhere near good enough. Grealish is
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For fuck's SAKE, Ollie!
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27 shots tonight
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Again, can't hit the target
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Fucking hell Tyrone. A free header!
Fucking hell Jackk open goal!
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Watkins has been rubbish today. Much too weak.
Too often he drifts wide. He used to be a winger didn’t he?
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Only 2 mins added on
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we could play til midnight and not score
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And Keinan Davis is utter shit
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What on earth was that Davis?
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Two minutes added on. They have taken longer than that with every goal kick.
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Well this was disappointing. Should have wrapped this up ages ago
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Two minutes added on
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Ridiculously fucking wasteful
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We couldn’t score in a brothel score in a brotttttttthelllll
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So frustrating
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Dean's chewing gum is annoying me.
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27 shots tonight
Mostly off target or weak efforts.
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Terrible end product; so frustrating.
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Two fucking minutes. That's such bollocks.
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Fuuuuuuuuuckoffiiiiiooooooooo!
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2 fucking mins......no game in the prem EVER has less that 4 nowadays
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Here it comes...
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To be fair, bearing in mind we are missing so many key players... 0-0 isn’t really what we deserved. But it is disappointing to see so many wasted efforts
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Fucking shit finishing FT
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0-0 FT
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Just read Jack’s lips “f****** crap”. Can’t disagree.
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27 shots tonight
Mostly off target or weak efforts.
As I said at HT, shots is an easy stat to roll out but means nothing if you are pathetically wasteful as us tonight. Pope really wasn't tested that much - our profligacy will really hurt us. We need upgrades in both midfield and forward positions if we want to kick on from mid table.
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But so
So frustrating
but So predictable.....another chance to climb the table totally wasted
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Watkins booked for coming back on without permission
I think the problem was he was still bleeding.
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First draw of the season 0-0 vs Burnley what a surprise