Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 14, 2020, 08:16:02 AM
Post by: Dave P on December 14, 2020, 08:36:03 AM
Post by: Dave on December 14, 2020, 09:01:57 AM
Post by: Risso on December 14, 2020, 09:23:07 AM
Post by: brontebilly on December 14, 2020, 09:40:10 AM
Post by: Malandro on December 14, 2020, 09:47:47 AM
Post by: Smithy on December 14, 2020, 09:50:16 AM
Given the way the season's gone so far, this is as nailed on a victory for Burnley as you're likely to get.
This made me snort-laugh - because it's exactly what I was thinking.
But can you imagine going into the Christmas period proper having beaten these and the Stripeyfilth? Our January shopping list would start to look a whole lot different...
Post by: AV82EC on December 14, 2020, 10:28:16 AM
They’ll go long to Wood and Rodriguez and we need to deal with it.
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on December 14, 2020, 10:31:30 AM
Give Jack a day off.
I don't think we're good enough to do that when Luiz is already out and Barkley is only just coming back into the frame.
Post by: wince on December 14, 2020, 10:39:42 AM
Post by: Bobby Boy on December 14, 2020, 10:44:24 AM
Got a feeling this could be our first draw of the season.
1-1.
Post by: Scovilla on December 14, 2020, 10:49:27 AM
Post by: PGW on December 14, 2020, 11:14:31 AM
Post by: Morleys left boot on December 14, 2020, 11:17:10 AM
2-0 no excuses
Post by: Dr Butler on December 14, 2020, 11:18:09 AM
UTV
The Doc
Post by: tony scott on December 14, 2020, 12:11:02 PM
Post by: Meanwood Villa on December 14, 2020, 12:15:30 PM
Post by: Mister E on December 14, 2020, 12:16:51 PM
Can't see them scoring, it's just weather we break them down. 0-0 or 1-0 Villa.Other than set pieces, high lofted crosses and the odd break out of defence on the long hoof.
I know their current-season goalscoring is poor, but they have the capacity to hurt teams that don't defend set pieces very well.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 14, 2020, 12:27:20 PM
Give Jack a day off.
Isn't Jack one yellow card away from a ban?
Post by: Ads on December 14, 2020, 12:31:44 PM
Martinez
Targett
Mings
Konsa
Guilbert
Nkamaba
McGinn
Barkley
Grealish
Watkins
AEG
Post by: Legion on December 14, 2020, 12:32:56 PM
Post by: Lastfootstamper on December 14, 2020, 12:33:35 PM
0-2.You available for this?
Post by: Legion on December 14, 2020, 12:36:16 PM
Post by: clash city rocker on December 14, 2020, 12:45:53 PM
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 14, 2020, 12:56:43 PM
Give Jack a day off.
Isn't Jack one yellow card away from a ban?
No, but Targett and McGinn are.
Post by: Drummond on December 14, 2020, 12:58:00 PM
Going to be a difficult one I suspect. We know what they will do, sit their back four across their 18 yard box and try and hit Wood at every opportunity. In saying that, as poor as we were last season we still took four points off these. We will have had an extra days rest in the legs too. Kind of game we will be reliant on some Grealish magic to break the deadlock.
I think we'll get a few free-kicks in and around that area, and who better than Hourihane to take advantage?
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 14, 2020, 12:58:49 PM
Post by: Risso on December 14, 2020, 01:01:18 PM
I would go with;
Martinez
Targett
Mings
Konsa
Guilbert
Nkamaba
McGinn
Barkley
Grealish
Watkins
AEG
Me too. It will be interesting to see if Nakamba is trusted this season, but he deserves his chance to show what he can do I suppose. Reckon his physicality might be needed.
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on December 14, 2020, 01:03:16 PM
Given the way the season's gone so far, this is as nailed on a victory for Burnley as you're likely to get.I'm with you Risso ….this has 1-2 written all over it :(
Post by: Risso on December 14, 2020, 01:20:58 PM
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 14, 2020, 01:37:52 PM
3-1 - Ollie, Konsa, Jack
Are fans allowed in for this one or is Birmingham still locked down?
Post by: Risso on December 14, 2020, 01:39:43 PM
We will win this and then smash the Bitters.
3-1 - Ollie, Konsa, Jack
Are fans allowed in for this one or is Birmingham still locked down?
Still tier 3. Even if they reduce it to tier 2 this week, I can't see that that would leave enough time to organise which fans get to come in.
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 14, 2020, 01:43:19 PM
Post by: Clampy on December 14, 2020, 01:52:59 PM
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 14, 2020, 02:00:25 PM
Blimey. How is Birmingham still seemingly so much worse than other areas of the country?
You're mistakedly thinking there's some scientific logic and data behind the tiers.
Post by: CT Villan on December 14, 2020, 02:11:46 PM
You're mistakedly thinking there's some scientific logic and data behind the tiers.
Many a true word spoken in jest
Post by: eamonn on December 14, 2020, 03:02:09 PM
Post by: Damo70 on December 14, 2020, 03:05:20 PM
Post by: CT on December 14, 2020, 07:32:09 PM
Four points from six.
Post by: Ads on December 14, 2020, 07:36:31 PM
Post by: Richard E on December 14, 2020, 07:55:17 PM
Sandwell Town are asking fans if they want to join a ballot for their game with us should we move tier. Maybe they know something we don't.
The losers get tickets, the winners don’t, presumably?
Post by: CT on December 14, 2020, 08:15:31 PM
Sandwell Town are asking fans if they want to join a ballot for their game with us should we move tier. Maybe they know something we don't.
If they do, at least we’ll know there will be plenty of Villa songs during the game. They might even manage one or two about their own team. FTA.
Post by: Bad English on December 14, 2020, 09:21:32 PM
Post by: Ads on December 14, 2020, 09:22:40 PM
Post by: RamboandBruno on December 14, 2020, 10:30:48 PM
Saying that, we get an early goal, Grealish could take these to the cleaners. Would be tempted to put hourihane in, instead of Nakamba as he can pass better.
Post by: gpbarr on December 14, 2020, 10:38:17 PM
A 1-0 scrappy win will be just fine, and I think we will
Post by: Des Little on December 14, 2020, 10:44:22 PM
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 14, 2020, 11:12:09 PM
Will go for 2-1 win if Barkley is fit though. We'll dominate possesion so having him back would be much needed and think he scored a few against them in recent seasons playing for Chelsea.
Don't think Burnley are much of a team that will press and pick us off. They'll just lump long diagonals all night long to the two CFs and try to get a goal from set piece or lofted cross as they did (twice) at VP last season so we need to be strong there so don't mind AEM coming in at RB.
Not sure what our midfield will look like.
Post by: robbo1874 on December 15, 2020, 08:53:01 AM
Score first and take control, hard work’s done.
Post by: rob_bridge on December 15, 2020, 09:50:51 AM
A win here puts us well out of reach of the relegation fodder for several weeks, relieves any lingering doubts and sets us up nicely for the Christmas period
Post by: ktvillan on December 15, 2020, 09:58:52 AM
Should be as close to a "routine home win" as you can get, but nothing seems to be routine these days, especially for Villa at home. 1-0 but not sure which way.
Post by: Risso on December 15, 2020, 10:42:59 AM
a) The rubbish home form
b) The incredibly frustrating habit of following up a good win against a decent team with a loss against one we'd expect to beat
Thursday would be a good time to do both.
Post by: usav on December 15, 2020, 01:30:04 PM
Post by: Lastfootstamper on December 15, 2020, 01:38:12 PM
Why the hell are we playing on Thursday? Baggies are playing tonight and get two extra daysrestto contemplate their upcoming batteringbefore Sunday.
Post by: Damo70 on December 15, 2020, 01:38:45 PM
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 15, 2020, 01:54:27 PM
Post by: Ads on December 15, 2020, 02:00:53 PM
Post by: Lastfootstamper on December 15, 2020, 02:13:46 PM
Post by: in exile on December 15, 2020, 02:57:20 PM
It is on Amazon I think.Yes, it is.
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 15, 2020, 03:00:20 PM
Post by: Nev on December 15, 2020, 03:39:11 PM
3-1
Post by: Bobby Boy on December 15, 2020, 03:41:24 PM
Quote from: dave.woodhall link=topic=61542.msg3875617#msg3875617 9thdate=1608044420
We've got to get out of this mindset that every match is a potential defeat and every good result will be followed by a bad one.
You are absolutely right Dave but the mindset will only fully change when the results back it up. We are still too inconsistent.
However we are most definitely moving in the right direction to make that day come.
Post by: Drummond on December 15, 2020, 04:25:23 PM
Post by: eamonn on December 15, 2020, 04:34:14 PM
We've got to get out of this mindset that every match is a potential defeat and every good result will be followed by a bad one.
You said that before the Brighton game ;)
Post by: Risso on December 15, 2020, 04:43:16 PM
We've got to get out of this mindset that every match is a potential defeat and every good result will be followed by a bad one.
If by "we" you mean the players, then yes, very much so.
Post by: TelfordVilla on December 15, 2020, 05:00:21 PM
Post by: Allan C on December 15, 2020, 05:19:23 PM
Post by: Lastfootstamper on December 15, 2020, 06:03:22 PM
I think we'll win but as their result against Arsenal shows, they aren't pushovers.
Arsenal (7) have lost more games than Burnley (6), so I'm not sure that's a good pointer to how well they're playing.
Post by: manic-road on December 15, 2020, 06:30:34 PM
Post by: Nii Lamptey on December 16, 2020, 08:16:29 AM
Nothing but a win will suffice.
Post by: in exile on December 16, 2020, 10:14:26 AM
This is a team with Westwood in it. We're better than that.Westwood has improved at Burnley.
Nothing but a win will suffice.
Post by: exigo on December 16, 2020, 10:59:31 AM
Post by: Drummond on December 16, 2020, 01:14:59 PM
Post by: Ads on December 16, 2020, 01:15:57 PM
Post by: Drummond on December 16, 2020, 01:18:45 PM
No.
I wouldn't buy him back. But I think I'd rather him than Nakamba.
Post by: Ads on December 16, 2020, 01:19:19 PM
Post by: Damo70 on December 16, 2020, 02:49:29 PM
If we'd managed even draws against West Ham, Brighton, and Southampton, we'd go third with a win against Burnley, and top if we won our game in hand.
I won't believe in if anymore. It's an illusion, if is for children.
My Mum used to listen to Roger Whittaker a lot when I was a kid.
Is there any live TV or radio coverage of this game?
Post by: RamboandBruno on December 16, 2020, 03:37:38 PM
If we'd managed even draws against West Ham, Brighton, and Southampton, we'd go third with a win against Burnley, and top if we won our game in hand.
I won't believe in if anymore. It's an illusion, if is for children.
My Mum used to listen to Roger Whittaker a lot when I was a kid.
Is there any live TV or radio coverage of this game?
Amazon Prime video
Post by: Smithy on December 16, 2020, 04:48:52 PM
Post by: fbriai on December 16, 2020, 04:53:59 PM
3-0.
UTV!
Post by: TelfordVilla on December 16, 2020, 04:55:10 PM
Post by: eamonn on December 16, 2020, 09:13:30 PM
Post by: WarszaVillan on December 16, 2020, 10:53:26 PM
Post by: Des Little on December 16, 2020, 11:15:25 PM
Post by: brontebilly on December 17, 2020, 12:29:58 AM
Going to be a very interesting team selection and we appear to be running out of players to put on the bench. Elmo for additional height against the Burnley aerial game but he won't last 90 mins. Nakamba for a bit more grunt in midfield. No Traore from the start but AEG will likely strongly test our patience. Don't think it's a game for Ramsey either but a good option to bring in.
-------------Martinez
Elmo, Konsa, Mings, Targett
-------McGinn, Nakamba
AEG, Barkley/Houri, Jack
------------Watkins
Bench, Steer, Traore, Guilbert, Ramsey, Hause, Davis, Taylor
Post by: TonyD on December 17, 2020, 01:03:41 AM
Would then be sitting rather pretty in the league with games in hand.
Come on our Villa do this!!!!!
Post by: Hillbilly on December 17, 2020, 05:49:11 AM
Post by: Duncan Shaw on December 17, 2020, 07:42:36 AM
Football on a Thursday feels wrong.It sort of does, but I'm loving it while we can't go! Had Amazon Prime on in the background all evening last night dipping in and out of the games and seeing what's going on, which was quite good to have. Anyway, we'll f these f'ers!!
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 17, 2020, 07:51:44 AM
Post by: robbo1874 on December 17, 2020, 08:11:35 AM
Trez, Cash and Luiz all out tomorrow, Barkley probably touch and go to make it. Might be best advised to bring him in as a sub as the last thing we need is him out for weeks.id have Ramsey starting, with the enforced absences we’ve got. Did very well against Wolves (who contrived to beat Chelsea in their last match). He’ll be buzzing from the Wolves match. Less sure about who we’d leave out from the team set out above though. Smith has some tricky decisions to make for this one. I guess it will largely depend on who’s impressed in training this week.
Going to be a very interesting team selection and we appear to be running out of players to put on the bench. Elmo for additional height against the Burnley aerial game but he won't last 90 mins. Nakamba for a bit more grunt in midfield. No Traore from the start but AEG will likely strongly test our patience. Don't think it's a game for Ramsey either but a good option to bring in.
-------------Martinez
Elmo, Konsa, Mings, Targett
-------McGinn, Nakamba
AEG, Barkley/Houri, Jack
------------Watkins
Bench, Steer, Traore, Guilbert, Ramsey, Hause, Davis, Taylor
Post by: aj2k77 on December 17, 2020, 09:42:47 AM
Post by: Jon Crofts on December 17, 2020, 09:46:03 AM
Good to see Amazon Prime is now integrated into SkyQ Apps which saves a lot of farting about.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 17, 2020, 09:55:22 AM
We will fuck these Minecraft badge wearing fuckers 1-0.
Good to see Amazon Prime is now integrated into SkyQ Apps which saves a lot of farting about.
I wonder if the 'route' of the data into Sky Q is different (ie more fucking reliable) than to standard Fire kit, or if it's just a different packaged front end onto the same thing. Loads of complaints about the football coverage this week.
Post by: Pat Mustard on December 17, 2020, 10:01:04 AM
Martinez
Guilbert Konsa Mings Targett
McGinn Hourihane
AEG Ramsey Jack
Watkins
Post by: Jon Crofts on December 17, 2020, 10:08:14 AM
We will fuck these Minecraft badge wearing fuckers 1-0.
Good to see Amazon Prime is now integrated into SkyQ Apps which saves a lot of farting about.
I wonder if the 'route' of the data into Sky Q is different (ie more fucking reliable) than to standard Fire kit, or if it's just a different packaged front end onto the same thing. Loads of complaints about the football coverage this week.
Strange isn't it, the SkyQ App is seamless on my telly box, I despair using the Firestick which I bought because the smart telly app built into the Android TV OS was flakier than a big bag of flaky things.
Anyone want to buy a Firestick?
Post by: TonyD on December 17, 2020, 10:15:39 AM
Post by: Drummond on December 17, 2020, 10:27:15 AM
We will fuck these Minecraft badge wearing fuckers 1-0.
Good to see Amazon Prime is now integrated into SkyQ Apps which saves a lot of farting about.
I wonder if the 'route' of the data into Sky Q is different (ie more fucking reliable) than to standard Fire kit, or if it's just a different packaged front end onto the same thing. Loads of complaints about the football coverage this week.
Strange isn't it, the SkyQ App is seamless on my telly box, I despair using the Firestick which I bought because the smart telly app built into the Android TV OS was flakier than a big bag of flaky things.
Anyone want to buy a Firestick?
I tried streaming from a tablet and phone and possibly even used the app on my TV, all were crap. The matches this week via SkyQ have been reliable and pretty good quality too so far.
Plus it's so much easier to use one machine for everything. I may actually start to use my Amazon Prime account for watching stuff now.
Post by: Jon Crofts on December 17, 2020, 10:35:14 AM
We will fuck these Minecraft badge wearing fuckers 1-0.
Good to see Amazon Prime is now integrated into SkyQ Apps which saves a lot of farting about.
I wonder if the 'route' of the data into Sky Q is different (ie more fucking reliable) than to standard Fire kit, or if it's just a different packaged front end onto the same thing. Loads of complaints about the football coverage this week.
Strange isn't it, the SkyQ App is seamless on my telly box, I despair using the Firestick which I bought because the smart telly app built into the Android TV OS was flakier than a big bag of flaky things.
Anyone want to buy a Firestick?
I tried streaming from a tablet and phone and possibly even used the app on my TV, all were crap. The matches this week via SkyQ have been reliable and pretty good quality too so far.
Plus it's so much easier to use one machine for everything. I may actually start to use my Amazon Prime account for watching stuff now.
We're going into a holiday rental for a few months while we do work on a new house, just been researching the NowTV stick which also has Prime Video available via it as well as iPlayer, Netflix & Disney+, looks like there's some good deals up front on Sport & Movies bundles as well.
Post by: Risso on December 17, 2020, 10:57:59 AM
Post by: levico on December 17, 2020, 11:21:03 AM
Post by: Duncan Shaw on December 17, 2020, 11:28:53 AM
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on December 17, 2020, 11:33:00 AM
Villa to win 3-0
Half time 0-0
Three penalties in the last five minutes.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 17, 2020, 12:29:34 PM
It's pretty solid. Run Kodi on it too *taps nose*
Runs very smoothly.
Post by: Mister E on December 17, 2020, 12:30:23 PM
Martinez
Elmo Konsa Mings Targett
Ramsey Hourihane McGinn
Guilbert Watkins Grealish
My rationale is that Guilbert and Elmo can both defend and swing in crosses, Guilbert is quick and Burnley's left side is strong, with McNeil and Taylor getting up and down.
Hourihane sits in front of our CB and picks up the second ball from Wood and Rodriguez.
I'd have AEG and Traore come on after 60 minutes, depending on how the game is going.
I have no concerns about Ramsey playing: remember those couple of reducer-tackles he made against Burton? - he's physically up to the game and has a simple and effective use of the ball.
Post by: Risso on December 17, 2020, 01:18:14 PM
I have a slightly unlikely formation in mind for this evening:
Martinez
Elmo Konsa Mings Targett
Ramsey Hourihane McGinn
Guilbert Watkins Grealish
My rationale is that Guilbert and Elmo can both defend and swing in crosses, Guilbert is quick and Burnley's left side is strong, with McNeil and Taylor getting up and down.
Hourihane sits in front of our CB and picks up the second ball from Wood and Rodriguez.
I'd have AEG and Traore come on after 60 minutes, depending on how the game is going.
I have no concerns about Ramsey playing: remember those couple of reducer-tackles he made against Burton? - he's physically up to the game and has a simple and effective use of the ball.
I've got more chance of playing there than Guilbert has!
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 17, 2020, 01:42:15 PM
I think it will be Elmo for Cash Hourihane for Luiz
AEG for Traore
I cant see Smith wanting to make toomany changes.
Post by: Mister E on December 17, 2020, 01:52:07 PM
I've got more chance of playing there than Guilbert has!Yes, I did say 'unlikely' and you're probably right ... doesn't make my suggestion wrong though!
Post by: brontebilly on December 17, 2020, 03:00:19 PM
I wouldn’t play Nakamba. Prefer to progress Ramsey.
Ramsey isn't a holding midfielder though. In Luiz absence we need someone to hold the middle and clear away second balls breaking from their aerial bombardment of our box. Not a fan of Nakamba but think he is a better bet than any of our other options tonight to do that. Wood caused Mings a lot of problems last season in the air.
I thought Ramsey did ok v Wolves. Nice cross at end that Grealish nearly got on the end of, that aside I thought he naturally struggled with the pace of the game at times. It's probably him or Hourihane I expect for tonight. I think Deano will go for Ramsey alright
Post by: Nii Lamptey on December 17, 2020, 03:34:30 PM
If he is still out, I'd give Nakamba a start over Conor. Oh dear!
What it does highlight is how lacking in depth (and quality) our midfield actually is outside of our first choice 11.
Post by: Damo70 on December 17, 2020, 03:44:51 PM
Post by: VILLA MOLE on December 17, 2020, 04:15:42 PM
Is commentary available on BBC WM online?
radio 5 live extra have it
Post by: Damo70 on December 17, 2020, 04:30:50 PM
Is commentary available on BBC WM online?
radio 5 live extra have it
Cheers for that.