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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on December 28, 2019, 02:00:25 PM
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I don't know what this is. Also every non performing player seems droppable except Wesley.
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Oh my fucking God.
That midfield is so lightweight.
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Well. Er...
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Oh my christ. Lansbury? Jota? We're going to get overrun and probably stuffed.
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I'm slow today Mr Shin. My reaction is the same as everyone elses. What the fuck is that line up?
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In what world is Elmo possibly better than Guilbert?
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Mings not even on the bench.
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Now that's a title winning team if ever I saw one.
Ok the title may be the Conference South, but it's a title winning team.
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Aaaagh fuck, I dont like the look of that at all.
Fucking come on Villa!
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OK. Unexpected lineup that.
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Worried about how powder-puff we might be in the middle as Pearson will have them up for this.
Any chance they could lend us Tom Cleverley given he's not featuring for them?!
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Oh shit...
WHY is Jack out wide?
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It's bizarre how how every non performing player is droppable except Wesley. How is Elmo in ahead of Guilbert? That fetaherweight midfield with Jack on the wing is going to take a kicking.
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Also whenever we have a player that might return from injury, you just fucking know there isnt a chance that he will.
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Oh shit...
WHY is Jack out wide?
I doubt he is.
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Moan about Nkamba, El Ghazi and Trezuguet being poor. Said players get dropped. Players replaced. Moan about replacements.
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I'm not going to bother switching my phone off until the game is shown at 9pm. I'm pessimistic with a team sheet like that.
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It's bizarre how how every non performing player is droppable except Wesley. How is Elmo in ahead of Guilbert? That fetaherweight midfield with Jack on the wing is going to take a kicking.
Precisely.
Kodjia is obviously dead to him.
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Oh dear.
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He was always going to tinker with it seeing as we only played two days ago. Not sure about Lansbury, I think Nakamba would have been better.
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I'm guessing that's back to 4-3-3 then, with Jack and Jota either side of Wesley?
Is Smith going for the world record in how many different permutations of a midfield 3 it's possible to play in one season?
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What has Guilbert done wrong? I thought the yellow cards were no longer an issue today.
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Wesley?
What the fucking fuck?
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In what world is Elmo possibly better than Guilbert?
must admit I don’t understand that one either
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That is not a good team. Midfield looks weak. Lansbury is not good enough or Jota. Jack wasted wide. Looks 4-3-3 again, which I don’t think is good enough. I really hope Dean knows what he’s doing
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Today was the day to rest Wesley without losing face for Dean, pop him on the bench and change things up. It could give him a kick start of he comes on or returns against Burnley.
Hope he bangs in a couple to shut us all up, but I maintain than the managers intransigence in the face of all the evidence will see him out of a job.
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Oh shit...
WHY is Jack out wide?
I doubt he is.
Not sure where he plays then, looks 4-3-3 to me
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that’s the worst team we’ve fielded for a long time
(Hopefully go out and bash em now don’t mind having a face full of egg)
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Come on you Villa boys! Fack the fackers!
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Come on Jack, stuff these.
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I’m going to walk the dog having seen that team sheet.
We don’t even have a dog.
Fucking hell.
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5-0 win for us, Jota, Lansbury, Wesley 2, Targett. Pearson to run on the pitch and Judas punch Jack after the 4th goes in.
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Smiths heads exploded
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Glad Jota starts, but if Lansbury is the answer, I'm not sure what the question is.
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4 4 1 1?
With the exception of Wesley, he's dropped all those who've failed to perform over the past few weeks.
If the midfield is lightweight, can anyone tell me which heavyweight midfielder he should have picked?
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It seems people have short memories as Gilbert was atrocious against Southampton and lost his place. Elmo, although not great at times, has done little wrong.
Very lightweight in the middle though but two games in a couple of days may be too much for Elghazi and Trez who looked knackered against Norwich.
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I'm gonna watch the first 10 minutes before reacting. Hope we have a coherent plan here.
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Any pm with kinky would be appreciated
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Moan about Nkamba, El Ghazi and Trezuguet being poor. Said players get dropped. Players replaced. Moan about replacements.
I agree Ads, it's just worrying how poor the replacements are.
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Everyone complained how shite our wingers were, so they are dropped. Lansbury and Jota deserve a chance.
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4 4 1 1?
With the exception of Wesley, he's dropped all those who've failed to perform over the past few weeks.
If the midfield is lightweight, can anyone tell me which heavyweight midfielder he should have picked?
Not so much a player, but formation 2 in front of the back 4. That protects more and gives Jack a free role. We are weak playing 4-3-3, not sure it is ever a 4-4-1-1 I want to be wrong and be happy for you to give it loads after the game
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Oh my fucking God.
That midfield is so lightweight.
Not exactly set up for a battle that team, is it? The three dropped can't have complaints but Grealish aside that's an average championship team if I ever saw one
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Oh my fucking God.
That midfield is so lightweight.
Not exactly set up for a battle that team, is it? The three dropped can't have complaints but Grealish aside that's an average championship team if I ever saw one
Can’t argue with that
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Lansbury gets all the big games
Sheff Utd away
Liverpool kids
Watford away
As the kids say.....
Levels
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This has the potential to be brutal
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I’m trying to think of a more lightweight midfield that Also lacks no pace and It isn’t possible. We’re going to pass and out smart our way to victory, you watch.
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Having looked at that team line up, I think it’ll be 31-1 to them. Just put that as my super 6 anyway.
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By 31-1, I actually mean 3-1 but my phone has developed it’s own language.
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Can get 7/2 today on Villa. Dont think I would bother at 10/1 let alone 7/2.
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Good to see Mings and Davis made it back.
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Nigel Pearson at full time after we funeral them.
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One positive I can see is that midfield should be good on the ball.
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Was bound to be changes given that we only played two days ago. Obviously we are not privy to fitness levels etc. so makes it harder to judge.
Imagine that the clean sheet kept the defence together but would have though Guilbert would have worked better if Jota is going to come inside a lot as you would imagine. Bit odd to change Chester and Engles as well.
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Everyone complained how shite our wingers were, so they are dropped. Lansbury and Jota deserve a chance.
‘Deserve’ ?
Maybe ‘due’, but never ‘deserve’
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By 31-1, I actually mean 3-1 but my phone has developed it’s own language.
I think your phone was telling you something.
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There’s about 3 people who’ve posted on this thread that have made any sense. Everyone’s virtually written us off before we start.
1. We played two days ago, most of the premier league won’t be playing the same 11 today as Boxing Day;
2. The same people slating El Ghazi and Trez are now slating the replacements pre match. Do you just enjoy slating your own club constantly;
3. If you don’t want Jota and Lansbury in the team who do you want in the team?? There is no point slagging Smith if you have no reasonable ideas of what you want;
4. I don’t think Grealish will be on the left, I think it’ll be Hourihane with Jota on the right and Lansbury/Luiz in the middle. I think Smiths actually been less attacking with this team with an attempt to be less open in the middle.
We may lose this game, we’ll know soon enough, but the endless negativity is grating. As I’ve said before did anyone think we wouldn’t be in a relegation battle this season after coming 5th in the championship. On New Year’s Day last year we were lucky to scrape a draw at home to mid table QPR
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Having looked at that team line up, I think it’ll be 31-1 to them. Just put that as my super 6 anyway.
That’s tickled me.
They might get 29, but never 31, fecking hell, we ain’t that shit.
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Moan about Nkamba, El Ghazi and Trezuguet being poor. Said players get dropped. Players replaced. Moan about replacements.
That’s my thoughts as well!
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Any pm with kinky would be appreciated
Sent you a Christmas card.
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There’s about 3 people who’ve posted on this thread that have made any sense. Everyone’s virtually written us off before we start.
1. We played two days ago, most of the premier league won’t be playing the same 11 today as Boxing Day;
2. The same people slating El Ghazi and Trez are now slating the replacements pre match. Do you just enjoy slating your own club constantly;
3. If you don’t want Jota and Lansbury in the team who do you want in the team?? There is no point slagging Smith if you have no reasonable ideas of what you want;
4. I don’t think Grealish will be on the left, I think it’ll be Hourihane with Jota on the right and Lansbury/Luiz in the middle. I think Smiths actually been less attacking with this team with an attempt to be less open in the middle.
We may lose this game, we’ll know soon enough, but the endless negativity is grating. As I’ve said before did anyone think we wouldn’t be in a relegation battle this season after coming 5th in the championship. On New Year’s Day last year we were lucky to scrape a draw at home to mid table QPR
Those are very fair points, but having spent over £100million in the summer, I expected us to be doing a bit better than this. And to spend that money and still be playing Lansbury begs question. I really, really hope I’m eating humble pie and chips tonight.
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There’s about 3 people who’ve posted on this thread that have made any sense. Everyone’s virtually written us off before we start.
1. We played two days ago, most of the premier league won’t be playing the same 11 today as Boxing Day;
2. The same people slating El Ghazi and Trez are now slating the replacements pre match. Do you just enjoy slating your own club constantly;
3. If you don’t want Jota and Lansbury in the team who do you want in the team?? There is no point slagging Smith if you have no reasonable ideas of what you want;
4. I don’t think Grealish will be on the left, I think it’ll be Hourihane with Jota on the right and Lansbury/Luiz in the middle. I think Smiths actually been less attacking with this team with an attempt to be less open in the middle.
We may lose this game, we’ll know soon enough, but the endless negativity is grating. As I’ve said before did anyone think we wouldn’t be in a relegation battle this season after coming 5th in the championship. On New Year’s Day last year we were lucky to scrape a draw at home to mid table QPR
Agree with this. All negative posts about the lineup should be made to include their preferred option, not just "Bloggs?? What the f**k is he thinking?"
Most players who got slated here after Norwich have been replaced, not sure who else people wanted to see in there?
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Sarr up against Targett will be fun.
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Spot on Mike. Lansbury and Elmo are Championship standard. The fact that they are playing says a lot about our recruitment.
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There’s about 3 people who’ve posted on this thread that have made any sense. Everyone’s virtually written us off before we start.
1. We played two days ago, most of the premier league won’t be playing the same 11 today as Boxing Day;
2. The same people slating El Ghazi and Trez are now slating the replacements pre match. Do you just enjoy slating your own club constantly;
3. If you don’t want Jota and Lansbury in the team who do you want in the team?? There is no point slagging Smith if you have no reasonable ideas of what you want;
4. I don’t think Grealish will be on the left, I think it’ll be Hourihane with Jota on the right and Lansbury/Luiz in the middle. I think Smiths actually been less attacking with this team with an attempt to be less open in the middle.
We may lose this game, we’ll know soon enough, but the endless negativity is grating. As I’ve said before did anyone think we wouldn’t be in a relegation battle this season after coming 5th in the championship. On New Year’s Day last year we were lucky to scrape a draw at home to mid table QPR
Those are very fair points, but having spent over £100million in the summer, I expected us to be doing a bit better than this. And to spend that money and still be playing Lansbury begs question. I really, really hope I’m eating humble pie and chips tonight.
Fair point but unfortunately the markets obscene, West Ham spent 45 mill on one player and down by us. I really hope we at least get a point too
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I think it's now safe to assume Wesley cannot be dropped for league games.
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I think it's now safe to assume Wesley cannot be dropped for league games.
Because we have no viable other options. Don't say Kodjia.
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Everyone complained how shite our wingers were, so they are dropped. Lansbury and Jota deserve a chance.
‘Deserve’ ?
Maybe ‘due’, but never ‘deserve’
Lansbury maybe doesn't, Jota does.
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We'll murderise 'em.
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Find it a bit hard to believe that many people have a really good opinion on Lansbury or Jota as we have barely seen they play.
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How is Keinan Davis still injured? Every time we get an injury it's months and months out.
It's beyond a joke now, 3 weeks out BTW.
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As I’ve said before did anyone think we wouldn’t be in a relegation battle this season after coming 5th in the championship.
Yes, quite a few did. Have a look at the poll on the Realistic Expectations thread a few pages back. 35% of people thought we'd finish 8th-12th.
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On a serious note, that midfield is what’s concerning me. It just looks quite light on paper, I might well be proven wrong though and will happily admit to that at the full time whistle!
I also think we do miss Ming’s leadership from the back line too. He might do the occasional slip up, but his leadership experience is priceless to us.
I want to see us be up for a game and play some good football. And be entertained for the first time in the league for a while. I fear Pearson will get the old Salt Grinder out today and pull one over us.
If we do the unthinkable and win, it would be perfect as we can start looking up more than down.
I still stand on 3-1 to Watford though.
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I think it's now safe to assume Wesley cannot be dropped for league games.
Because we have no viable other options. Don't say Kodjia.
Really? Wesley has hardly set the world on fire and Kodjia when he got his chance did the business. Ok it was against Liverpool's kids but you can only beat what's put in front of you. Wesley has started to work more but for me that's not enough.
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4. I don’t think Grealish will be on the left, I think it’ll be Hourihane with Jota on the right and Lansbury/Luiz in the middle. I think Smiths actually been less attacking with this team with an attempt to be less open in the middle.
I imagine this will be the case too. Maybe 4-3-2-1 trying to keep it narrow and make us more solid and harder to play against given that Smith spoke about trying (and failing) to do this against Norwich.
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Yikes
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I'd forgot what a tin pot shit hole this place is.
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I do wonder if have much to get up the pitch on the ball.
Lack pace
Every time see Jota play there seems to be a decent thru ball or over top and it's a foot face between him and keeper. A faster player would reach first and dink it or take ball round keeper.
He's got to play himself into match as he takes a while to get going.
This team is a safety team but would have liked a pace player in the team one of el Ghazi or Trez.
I fear Delfefou will give all sorts of problems and Deeney will be elbowing his way either to victory or hopefully sent off.
I'm not exactly sure what can do to combat Doucoure and Capoue as they are strong but hopefully a bit of ball for villa and play around them
Hopper the ref needs to protect our players and the inevitable fouls.
And despite the probable anonymous play of Hourihane I hope he delivers in making forward runs and goals.
Intrigued to see how Lansbury and Jota get on and if they can't perform against low team bottom table then who can they perform against
Up the villa
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Good he’s dropped AEG and Trez, total wastes of a shirt and looks like he’s flooding midfield to make us hard to break down. Let’s see...
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this is the footballing equivalent a Michael Foot suicide note.
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I'd forgot what a tin pot shit hole this place is.
I quite like it on here.
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the endless negativity is grating.
Hard cheese.
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I think it's now safe to assume Wesley cannot be dropped for league games.
Because we have no viable other options. Don't say Kodjia.
Really? Wesley has hardly set the world on fire and Kodjia when he got his chance did the business. Ok it was against Liverpool's kids but you can only beat what's put in front of you. Wesley has started to work more but for me that's not enough.
If that game is your criteria Wesley scored against them too !
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the endless negativity is grating.
Hard cheese.
Yep. It's just the whey it is.
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My only real complaint is Wesley starts yet again.
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To counteract the negativity, this team is perfectly capable of getting a result. If we play with positivity, desire, and the sort of attitude we had for much of the second half of last season.
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the endless negativity is grating.
Hard cheese.
Indeed, if it’s so bad, he should gouda here.
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Come on me Villa babbies!
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At least we’re not playing James Brie
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I really don't like that side, seems very lightweight. Elmo in for Freddie again, Lansbury in at all. So much for having two players for every position? Yeah, maybe, but not of the same quality.
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Landsbury was poor against Sheff but was first game back, he could be a big player today I think this is
4 2 3 1.
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If you want a VLC media player hook up you know what to do.
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Why is Guilbert not starting?
He is easily one of our better players this season.
Can't see us winning tbh.
Please prove me wrong Villa
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I think it's now safe to assume Wesley cannot be dropped for league games.
Because we have no viable other options. Don't say Kodjia.
Really? Wesley has hardly set the world on fire and Kodjia when he got his chance did the business. Ok it was against Liverpool's kids but you can only beat what's put in front of you. Wesley has started to work more but for me that's not enough.
If that game is your criteria Wesley scored against them too !
Agreed but can you honestly say that Wesley's overall contribution means he deserves not to be dropped? If you leave out his goal against the Liverpool kids he last scored on 5th October.
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After 1/2 a season we should have a much more settled side, style of play. Some form of identity. We don’t. Today is yet another example of throwing things together and hoping something, anything clicks. When Bruce did it we rightly criticized him. I know we essentially threw things together in the summer but it’s long past that adjustment period in my opinion. It feels chaotic now.
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I think it's now safe to assume Wesley cannot be dropped for league games.
Because we have no viable other options. Don't say Kodjia.
If Lansbury, why not Kodjia?
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Deeney will score. We will lose.
And other results will be shite.
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Well, the team has been picked and although we might not all agree on the selections, let’s remember we haven’t lost yet.
Maybe a bit of radical thinking is what was needed and Smith is mixing it up to try and hit on a formation.
Today just might be the day.
C’mon me babbies !!!!!!
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Let's all hold each other's hands.
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Let's all cup each other's slenders.
FTFY
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I think it's now safe to assume Wesley cannot be dropped for league games.
Because we have no viable other options. Don't say Kodjia.
Really? Wesley has hardly set the world on fire and Kodjia when he got his chance did the business. Ok it was against Liverpool's kids but you can only beat what's put in front of you. Wesley has started to work more but for me that's not enough.
If that game is your criteria Wesley scored against them too !
Agreed but can you honestly say that Wesley's overall contribution means he deserves not to be dropped? If you leave out his goal against the Liverpool kids he last scored on 5th October.
I think he's getting better, and I'd pick him ahead of Kodjia personally. All about opinions though.
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Why are we wearing an away kit?
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Well, the team has been picked and although we might not all agree on the selections, let’s remember we haven’t lost yet.
Maybe a bit of radical thinking is what was needed and Smith is mixing it up to try and hit on a formation.
Today just might be the day.
C’mon me babbies !!!!!!
I say again, this is about partnerships and building on them. We don't have a single partnership in the side. Smith works with these players day in day out and one would think he'd know his best side by this point of the season. Not having a pop at you Andy.
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Why are we wearing an away kit?
Because we're the away team?
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Try Deeney and Nigel Pearson. 2 of the most smackable faces in football.
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Wesley must have something written into his contract that he must be first name on the team sheet. Prove me wrong Wes
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Heaton saves us
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Why are we wearing an away kit?
Because we're the away team?
No colour clash though. Oh well
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Jesus Christ on a bike
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Should be 2-0 down.
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Come on Villa. He says with a confidence he doesn’t feel.
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Jesus fucking h christ
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Not the best of starts
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Why is Guilbert not starting?
He is easily one of our better players this season.
Can't see us winning tbh.
Please prove me wrong Villa
He was shite v Southampton and we are desperately short of height to defend set pieces. Not the worst selection when we are struggling. Wesley and that midfield are far more questionable.
Might be a diamond four in midfield with Jota or Grealish further up the pitch near Wesley.
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Need to slow it down a bit now and keep hold of the ball
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We are being completely overrun. Pearson is an effective short term manager. He will know exactly what to say to get his side up for this game.
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Not the best of starts
It was like the bloody Alamo. Thank God for Heaton.
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Watford crowd already wound up by Grealish. This could get interesting!
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An insanely slow team now has Jota and Lansbury in it. There are snails with severe arthritis that can move quicker than this side.
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When did we last score from a corner?
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We’re going to get a hiding here.
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The problem is not one of our players is getting anywhere close to their players. We should be in their faces but instead we look scared to death
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Sheffield United at home last season.
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God what a ghastly selection.
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Half way through the season and he is still searching for his best 11
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Sitting at home laid up the only positive thing about the lineup are are fans Jota , Lansbury, targett, not premiership players in my view
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But we don't get close, we stand off and let teams play. It's the same every week.
Pressure brings mistakes. Standing off brings pressure.
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Everton score at Newcastle
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Press the fucking ball.
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We should really be taking the game to the opposition more than this.
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But we don't get close, we stand off and let teams play. It's the same every week.
Pressure brings mistakes. Standing off brings pressure.
That comment reminds of a time Aston Villa played a Brentford team managed by Dean Smith
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Fcukin VAR strikes again at Southampton Palace goal disallowed. Fcuk off Le Tissier biased Cnut.
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Southampton losing.
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It looks like they want it more than us again!
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Lansbury trotting around half arsed as usual.
He must fucking live life as a professional, premier league footballer.
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It's just a matter of time before they score.
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But we don't get close, we stand off and let teams play. It's the same every week.
Pressure brings mistakes. Standing off brings pressure.
But Wesley "works hard".
Just compare their front 3 sprinting at us putting us under pressure every time we have the ball. They get the ball for a few seconds. Then Wesley jogs towards them. Eventually.
It's laughable.
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Fcukin VAR strikes again at Southampton Palace goal disallowed. Fcuk off Le Tissier biased Cnut.
They should not be allowed to commentate on their own teams.
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Can anyone PM me with an option to watch game please - James has tried but not working for me :(
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We are a very meek team.
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Well, this team selection being wank is a complete surprise. 65% possession to Watford so far.
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He won’t change it though. Oh no by jimany he won’t.
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Well, this team selection being wank is a complete surprise. 65% possession to Watford so far.
It's ok Riss. The manager will just say the players aren't executing what's being asked of them.
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But we don't get close, we stand off and let teams play. It's the same every week.
Pressure brings mistakes. Standing off brings pressure.
That comment reminds of a time Aston Villa played a Brentford team managed by Dean Smith
We were doing this early in the season and we looked a lot better. Why suddenly ditch it?
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Shite again. Still think Dean has to go, tactics are non-existent here.
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One positive and tempting fate here horribly... defensively we look better and targett is actually doing his job.
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We are depressingly predictable.
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Time to set some traps.
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Agree. Let’s set some traps. And fall into them ourselves!
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We are just so meek and unadventurous.
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Not good enough.
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We are so easy to play against, Week after week we give the opposition so much time and space to play.
Currently getting danced around by a fucking Nigel Pearson side.
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Jota is a load of shite, so slow, weak and crap.
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Toothless.
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Absolutely zilch going forward.
Wes is on his own, trying to get on the end of hoofs from the back 4, with no support whatsoever, so 90% of the time it's coming straight back at us.
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We used to criticise O’Leary for saying ‘we are hard to beat.’ I long for those days.
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On January 1st 2010, we were 15th in the league, having played 20 games and had 21 points. I would love it, love it if..................
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Lansbury is the epitome of running around but doing absolutely fuck all
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But we don't get close, we stand off and let teams play. It's the same every week.
Pressure brings mistakes. Standing off brings pressure.
That comment reminds of a time Aston Villa played a Brentford team managed by Dean Smith
We were doing this early in the season and we looked a lot better. Why suddenly ditch it?
Because like so many Villa managers before him he's gone into a shell. From being what we thought Dean Smith to be; a progressive, intelligent, tacticaly astute manager instead of playing on the front foot and learning how to defend late in games, he's instead decided to defend deep from the start and play on the break. Pump it up to a CF who cannot head the ball or hold it up. It's exactly the type of approach that leads to a manager getting fired or worse, a team getting relegated.
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Foster saves well from Wes
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This is absolutely fucking awful again.
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Fuck me close. A Wesley header, collectors item
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We're here to avoid defeat aren't we.
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Credit where it's due.... Great play from big Wes there
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Wesley!
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Oh fuck!
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If I were Jack, I'd have my transfer request in by now. The loyalty of the lad is admirable, but he really is wasting his career playing with this bunch of clowns.
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That’s guaranteed his place for the rest of the season.
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Look like the Norwich game part 2, be happy if we get the same result.
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That was a great run into the box from Wes. Unlucky.
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hes got to be scoring that
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Come on Wes !
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Yeah we’re not even a positive team playing to a plan anyone. As someone else said, we now seem to be set up to concede possession and hit on the break, but without any pace, finishing or generally any ability to hurt teams on the break.
It’s all starting to smack of smith trying to grind our results without having the tactical know how.
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More of that big lad!
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If I were Jack, I'd have my transfer request in by now. The loyalty of the lad is admirable, but he really is wasting his career playing with this bunch of clowns.
Go and sit on the naughty step.
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Shit. Good move - should have buried that.
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Nearly our first headed goal of the season. Nearly.
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Fair play to Wes there, good run and unlucky not to score.
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Wesley haha ffs. Straight down the middle from point blank range. Says it all.
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Come on Wes keep it up.
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Var check penalty.
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Is that not a fucking penalty to us? Where is VAR?
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Not given. Fcuk off.
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Watching the replay I can only think Wesley shut his eyes when he was about to head it. Bad miss
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Contact there and from behind....Penalty
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Has to score wesley another miss
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Shocking miss
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"He's gone down too easily" isn't a reason not to give a penalty as we have seen time and time again. Mostly in favour of Liverpool
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Contact there and from behind....Penalty
Wesley went down too easily. Sorry no pen for me
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Absolute shithousery from Wesley. Misses open goal, then produces the worst dive of the year to tey and con the ref. Get him off.
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Don't quite understand how VAR can look at that and not give it. Contact from behind, ball not involved. Foul surely.
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Absolute shithousery from Wesley. Misses open goal, then produces the worst dive of the year to tey and con the ref. Get him off.
If it's a dive why hasn't he been booked for it? Don't get me wrong, I can't stand him, but that is not a dive.
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100% a penalty there
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Get on with it Wesley you fucking pansy
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Wes has worked so hard he needs a little lie down here.
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Dreadful use of VAR again.
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Wesley had his lights punched out by Mike Tyson by the looks of it.
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Would that have been given if it was Sane or Rashford or Kane? Of course it would have been.
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He is an embarrassment
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Get on with it Wesley you fucking pansy
Tickled me that.
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Contact on the back of Wes's leg from behind, in the box, how easy he went down has no bearing on it, absolute penalty
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Nearly our first headed goal of the season. Nearly.
Really? Amazing considering our reliance on wingers...
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Lansbury having a decent start here in the number ten role.
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I wish SWMBO would stop asking me 'Have Villa scored yet?' every five minutes. It's depressing.
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Dull game between two poor teams.
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Newsflash! Wesley wins a header!
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We’ll lose this.
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I don't think I've ever seen a player worse at timing jumps than Wesley. He's almost always too early.
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Dull game between two poor teams.
Scrappy game between two uninspiring teams.
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A great advert for the best league in the world
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So, just to be clear, because I am a tad confused by the posts, Wesley is either a complete diving cheating shit house, or it was a clear cut penalty, although he clearly dived/went down too easily but wasn't booked for it?
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I’m sure this has been asked thousands of times before, but does grealish get a ban if he gets carded today?
If so I’ma bot worked as it’s a tetchy game and the ref is on the wind up.
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I’m watching Southampton v Palace in an Irish pub in Warsaw....also not a good advert for the game.
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So, just to be clear, because I am a tad confused by the posts, Wesley is either a complete diving cheating shit house, or it was a clear cut penalty, although he clearly dived/went down too easily but wasn't booked for it?
Also he either got into a nice position and forced a good save from foster, or he closed his eyes and headed the ball straight at him.
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I’m sure this has been asked thousands of times before, but does grealish get a ban if he gets carded today?
If so I’ma bot worked as it’s a tetchy game and the ref is on the wind up.
Yup.
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I'll clarify.
Wesley has been shit as per usual.
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Cheers.
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We are setting traps like CRAZY here.
The biggest one being that which involves getting thousands of people to travel down the motorway to watch this horse shit.
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So, just to be clear, because I am a tad confused by the posts, Wesley is either a complete diving cheating shit house, or it was a clear cut penalty, although he clearly dived/went down too easily but wasn't booked for it?
Also he either got into a nice position and forced a good save from foster, or he closed his eyes and headed the ball straight at him.
Yep, but to be honest whilst he hasn’t had a great time I do think a negative perception colours the reaction to what Wes does.
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Yawn.
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Whoever gets the goal here.
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Targett has been poor. Jack dropping back into the left back position to collect the ball isn't ideal.
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It seems like every time I look up at the screen I see the ball being played in behind Targett.
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Targett has been poor. Jack dropping back into the left back position to collect the ball isn't ideal.
Nah, he's a future England international, him.
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They’re hitting the Targett every time.
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Jesus we are so easy to line up against.
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As an aside, those closing down the keeper runs. Does it ever yield anything? I’m struggling to think of a goal being scored from that position since paul Walsh (I think) copped one in the face and scored for citeh.
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It would go as far as saying moderate dross. Not quite turgid dross. But getting there.
I fear that the defeat to Leicester really hit us hard this season. As it did several seasons ago.
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Put Hause at left back. Chester to replace Targett.
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Targett looks absolutely shot.
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Yep. It's official. Targett is muck.
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Deeneys miss one there ha ha
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Targett has been poor. Jack dropping back into the left back position to collect the ball isn't ideal.
Plus the fact he's the only quality on the pitch today, he's being asked to do to much so soon after the last game.
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Deeney fluffs a sitter
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Shit, 1-0.
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We are setting traps like CRAZY here.
The biggest one being that which involves getting thousands of people to travel down the motorway to watch this horse shit.
Yes Dean seems to have reverted to the Villa curse. No apparent idea of what his team is trying to do.
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1-0
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Wes heads the ball towards the goal shock.
Quick get him a new improved contract.
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Deeney should have 100% scored.
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Jota not involved at all.
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Doug half asleep
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Deeney has just missed a fucking sitter.
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That’s game over.
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Fuck sake. Deeney 1-0.
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fucking defence fucking wank
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Fucking pathetic!
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Inevitable.
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Deeney fluffs one. And then makes us eat our laughs. Shit
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and now.... bastard
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So, just to be clear, because I am a tad confused by the posts, Wesley is either a complete diving cheating shit house, or it was a clear cut penalty, although he clearly dived/went down too easily but wasn't booked for it?
Also he either got into a nice position and forced a good save from foster, or he closed his eyes and headed the ball straight at him.
The latter. I've stuck up for Wesley i really have. But that was a gilt edged chance to power home a header a he blew it.
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Fuck off Villa, absolute shite again.
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Lucky escape, Deeney should have buried that.
Deeney now does bury one.
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We’ll get fucking hammered now.
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Knew it would be him. :(
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konsa you absolute tit
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I’m sure this has been asked thousands of times before, but does grealish get a ban if he gets carded today?
If so I’ma bot worked as it’s a tetchy game and the ref is on the wind up.
Yup.
I thought those on four had them wiped after the last match?
Or did I imagine that?
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We’re dross, utter dross.
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The bottom team in the league are beating possibly the worst team in the league.
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Just before HT too.. FFS!
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We are fucking shite and it IS Dean Smith's fault, get him the fuck out. Enough now. Utter bollocks.
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All caused by our negative, meek backwards and sideways football.
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Same old shit from is. What do we do on training? What are the tactics, game plan etc?
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I’m sure this has been asked thousands of times before, but does grealish get a ban if he gets carded today?
If so I’ma bot worked as it’s a tetchy game and the ref is on the wind up.
Yup.
I thought those on four had them wiped after the last match?
Or did I imagine that?
They do.
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Pathetic, handed on a plate
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That defending was a disgrace. Heaton keeps us in it and two of their players are there ready to stick it in with no defenders anywhere to be seen. Please leave dean.
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Don't worry lads, we always improve in the second half.
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It’s bollocks. We’re much better than this. Pathetic.
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I predict there will be no changes at half time and Watford will score again within 5 minutes of the restart.
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Absolute cack. Jack apart that team today is a bog standard Championship side being managed by a bog standard Championship manager. No threat at all and paying the price
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Piss off konsa you absolute knob. What kind of eefending was that
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Pissing around at the back yet again.
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Genuine disgrace that goal. Konsa and Luiz were pathetic and Heaton really poor on follow up.
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We can not keep the ball beyond three passes.
It is just so far from acceptable, it's hard to see this manager turning things around.
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Joke defending. Beyond pathetic.
Why not just give the pub player his goal?
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We are our own worst enemy
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Since Wesley's saved header, we've been dreadful.
Jota, Lansbury...too slow, just weak.
Luis not in the game.
Poor.
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The state Villa are in this is now an absolute mountain to climb, you can easily see by our defending for the goal, the lights where on but nobody's home.
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Quelle fucking surprise. Smith out.
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Pissing around at the back yet again.
This. 1000 times this.
That lead up to Wesley's chance/ miss was haphazard but purposeful and Watford were rattled by it... Why the FUCK can we not at least TRY and capitalise on things like that?
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We are fucking shite and it IS Dean Smith's fault, get him the fuck out. Enough now. Utter bollocks.
Yawn
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Unacceptable. We’ve been shit for weeks. That includes the Norwich game that we were fortunate to win.
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Shit defending.Again. Shot ourselves in the foot. Again. We're gonna need a miracle to stop up. Again.
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If the score stays the same, we'll have taken 3 points out of 9 from the (then) bottom 3.... and the 3 points we did win were a smash and grab against Norwich and far from convincing.
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I've been watching for 15 minutes, we haven't been in their half yet.
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Deeney scores against Villa shock!!
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We can not keep the ball beyond three passes.
It is just so far from acceptable, it's hard to see this manager turning things around.
It’s continuous fucking garbage.
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Can someone tell me what Jota offers the team?
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Genuine disgrace that goal. Konsa and Luiz were pathetic and Heaton really poor on follow up.
Targett stop running back to goal too. Truly a shit defender.
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Since Wesley's saved header missed an open goal, we've been dreadful.
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Smith set us up to lose here. He’s letting the players down at this point.
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We spend in January or we go down.
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What is this tactic we have of aimlessly hoofing the ball up the pitch? Elmohamady and Jota, just now, are the fucking champions of it.
Stop it you fuckers.
And fuck off Deeney.
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Disgraceful defending. I really do blame smith for this shit defensive displays this is happening week in and week out
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Can someone tell me what Jota offers the team?
could say that about all but 2-3 of our players.
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What on earth Deano can do at half time to bring us back into this game is anybodies guess, no idea,desperate.
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We can not keep the ball beyond three passes.
It is just so far from acceptable, it's hard to see this manager turning things around.
It’s continuous fucking garbage.
Yep. Absolute trash.
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HT
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We never come back in games because the manager is unable to make any changes to generate a positive shift.
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Its like playing with 9 men. Wesley please get him off the pitch and give Kodjia a go. Jota is running about like a little boy lost!
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Disgraceful defending. I really do blame smith for this shit defensive displays this is happening week in and week out
I'd say that Appleyard has to be questioned as well.
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I've rarely seen such a lack of confidence in a team.
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Only we can make Watford look good.
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Good news is Dean’s half time instruction always sorts us out...
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What on earth Deano can do at half time to bring us back into this game is anybodies guess, no idea,desperate.
I've an idea.
No changes, 4-3-3 again, tell Wesley to run around and look busy.
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We spend in January or we go down.
do you honestly trust Sudo having seen the shit he's recruited? Can you see Dean changing his ways? I can't see is getting out of the bottom 3 now. Think we'll be in there for the rest of the season.
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Only got this on the wireless. Are we playing 433 again? Is Jack in the middle or out left?
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If we'd wanted football as shit as this, we could have kept Bruce.
Thanks Dean, but it's time for a change.
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Can someone tell me what Jota offers the team?
Miles off the pace on the right anyway. I'd shift Elmo to left back and Guilbert on right for second half. Get that utter charlatan Targett off.
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Even the pundits are screaming out for it.....
Grealish needs to be central
Watford 0-0 Aston Villa
Alex Scott
Ex-England international on Final Score
Aston Villa's Jack Grealish can't really get into the game at the moment. He is more influential from a central position and is out wide at the moment. He dictates their play and is key to everything for Villa.
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I've rarely seen such a lack of confidence in a team.
Just as much lack of effort or desire. Truly pathetic.
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Makes Billy McNeil’s team look good
Awful display apart from between 20 and 30 mins when we looked half decent
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35%, 3 shots, 1 on target.
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Good news is Dean’s half time instruction always sorts us out...
That and his tactically astute substitutions.
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That was a bit cack. We got worse as the game went on. I've seen more of Jack trying to help Targett do his job than I have of him in their half. The midfield have been anonymous.
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What a fucking horror show.
Get Kodja on for Wesley and Chester on for Targett, moving Hause to left back.
Of course, we know nothing will happen until Watford score again.
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One shot on target against the worst team in the league. Shit defending again no urgency no tactics.
Smiths out of his depth
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We are an abysmal team to watch.
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Deano's persistence with Wesley and playing Jack out of position will cost him his job and/or our relegation
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Utter, utter insipid shit.
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Is throwing more money at an intransigent Manager really the answer? A proper change is required.
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He has to go after the game. Todays lineup sent alarm bells ringing, and that 45mins cements what everyone was thinking.
Nice bloke, but nowhere near up to this level. If we stick with him, we're going down. Simple as that.
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Well, we’ve been atrocious against the 3 worst teams in the league, besides us, including 2 home fixtures, and are lucky to have escaped with any points at all. If anyone is looking at that thinking Smith isn't going to take us straight down then I’ll have some of what you’re having.
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We’re going down aren’t we?
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Only got this on the wireless. Are we playing 433 again? Is Jack in the middle or out left?
It’s 4 2 3 1
Jack on the left and an empty crisp packet on the right
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I think he needs to be sacked after this,
He won't be, but he should be.
There is not even a sign of any coaching going on, absolutely nothing.
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WTF has happened to us tackling - its like a stand off 5 a side game. The amount of 2nd balls we are just standing and watching is disgraceful.
I really wanted Smith and loved his playing principles but fuck me if this continues he has to go - it is the complete opposite of how i had his football philosophy.
As already said by others
Luiz - non exisitant
Jota / Hourihane - are they actually playing?
Has Angela actually touched the ball?
Targett is obviously a target as they look to play in that side every break
If no changes at 50 mins then Manager has lots the fucking plot
This is utter shit
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I really can't be bothered
Pointless, it really is just pointless
They can all fuck off for me, just so tired of useless abject apathy...
Back to SomeoneUsless Utd away every Tuesday night. Well done all involved.
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That's what I like about these winnable games - they're so relaxing.
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Another abject display against a poor team that we are managing to make look competent.
We're particularly poor with and without the ball. We can't carry on like this. We've played the 3 teams around us and we look the worst of all.
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Funnily enough the only guy apart from Jack that looked up for that was Wesley. But then we retreated and you could see the confidence sap from them when they scored. Really can’t see us getting back into this now no matter who he does and doesn’t bring on. In our fragile state we just can’t afford to give stupid goals away but we did 😡
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I really didn’t think Dean would turn out to be so unbelievably shite.
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no real surprise. he is WAY out of his depth and will take the club where he, as a supporter, would never want it. its time to move on.
a real test of the new owners tonight
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Perry Groves on TokeSpote: if Smith doesn't change the system at half time, he's not doing his job properly.
So if he can see it from up there ... Let's see if we see something different 2nd half.
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Just an awful first half. Jota looks like a little boy who’s won a competition. No bite in midfield and targett getting targeted as the weak link.
Wesley been average and I think it was a brilliant save rather than a miss from him to be honest. Shocking goal to concede but luiz should be goal side of doucoure until the ball is cleared. If he is. He stops the shot.
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That half was 15/16 diabolical. No ball retention at all, second to EVERY lose ball, and even Heaton very weak twice on the goal. Such frustrating viewing.
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I really didn’t think Dean would turn out to be so unbelievably shite.
None of us did. Literally nobody
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I love our front-foot football, it's so refreshing.
Worry not, were always at our best straight after half-time.
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When was the last time we played well, I mean, properly well? Norwich away, maybe....
Whether you are for or against Dean Smith at this point that just isn't good enough.
How many opposition players mistakes lead to our goals? Any?
How many times this season have our errors led directly to goals against? 8?10?
Look, we can't carry on as we are.
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45 mins of absolute puke.
Negative, boring, uninspiring, unadventurous, meek shite.
Lansbury is posing c***, trotting around like a fucking show pony, Jota and Hourihane are invisible and the defenders are playing with all the composure of a dog with rabies !!
We know what’s coming, AEG AND Trez will be on to see the game out in style and Kodjia will be nowhere to be seen.
Fucking wank. All of it
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If the score stays the same, we'll have taken 3 points out of 9 from the (then) bottom 3.... and the 3 points we did win were a smash and grab against Norwich and far from convincing.
I'd have accepted 5 points but would settle for 4 right now. 3 is totally unacceptable
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I really didn’t think Dean would turn out to be so unbelievably shite.
I dont think anyone did to be honest - including the board
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Why do we constantly think we can play at testimonial pace?
Every other team is urgent, pressing, sharp.
Massive 45 now. If we lose, with Burnley and Man City up next, we'll be adrift by miles.
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Watford have had 64 per cent possession. Their average this season is 45 per cent...
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I think he needs to be sacked after this,
He won't be, but he should be.
There is not even a sign of any coaching going on, absolutely nothing.
If its not done after this it will be too late. It may be already.
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We're really just shuffling the deck rather than changing the way we play. I just can't understand why Dean is persisting with this formation.
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He has to go after the game. Todays lineup sent alarm bells ringing, and that 45mins cements what everyone was thinking.
Nice bloke, but nowhere near up to this level. If we stick with him, we're going down. Simple as that.
.. we've just played the 3 worst placed teams in the league and robbed just 3 points from one of them (assuming this game goes the same as the season so far). Teams should play to their strengths. Sticking Jack out on the left for most of the season, and stubbornly refusing to drop a disfunctional forward EVER are going to be his/our downfall.
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Their goal.
Jota gets the ball, passes to Elmo and then sprints off down the pitch - thereby reducing Elmo's options to either a hoof downfield, or a telegraphed - inside pass to Konsa who is immediately closed down as he then tries to hoof it himself .......
Moments later, shot from the edge of the box is pushed wide by eaton and Deeney who's strolled into the box unmarked has the choice of having a crack at the rebound himself, or crossing it to another Watford player who is unmarked 6 yds out.
How many errors by Villa were there in that passage of play?
ANSWERS ON A CARD TO THE COACHING STAFF.
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Who do we get in as manager though?
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I've rarely seen such a lack of confidence in a team.
I've seen it before, we got relegated.
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I also don't care about how Wesley tries, or puts a shift in. He's paid to be the front man who should, under normal circumstances be the primary goalscorer.
If anyone else on here. "put a shift in" but failed to do their job they be gone in a heartbeat. The whole effort thing is bollocks. He's a Brazilian centre forward who doesn't score goals...us, only fucking us could do that.
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I've located Dean Smith's tactics
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/cb/fd/21/cbfd21d1719527097f2637cca1a2d488.jpg)
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Who do we get in as manager though?
Silly question - there are so many great options - with our owners, their money, the size of the club. If Everton can attract Ancelotti, you dont think we can attract similar calibre?
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Jota is a central or attacking midfielder, why he's out wide makes no sense. It never works because he has no pace.
I'm expecting a change(s) at HT
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Who do we get in as manager though?
If the owners are serious they will have already sounded out new managers.
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Villa game plan for Wesley
Play long ball to Wesley. He tries to chest it, loses the ball, runs after player and fouls him. Repeat forever.
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Why does a team that can't pass insist in passing in the most dangerous area of the pitch?
All the tempo we had in the first few months has simply evaporated. Coasting to relegation.
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Their goal.
Jota gets the ball, passes to Elmo and then sprints off down the pitch - thereby reducing Elmo's options to either a hoof downfield, or a telegraphed - inside pass to Konsa who is immediately closed down as he then tries to hoof it himself .......
Moments later, shot from the edge of the box is pushed wide by eaton and Deeney who's strolled into the box unmarked has the choice of having a crack at the rebound himself, or crossing it to another Watford player who is unmarked 6 yds out.
How many errors by Villa were there in that passage of play?
ANSWERS ON A CARD TO THE COACHING STAFF.
Luiz had ample opportunity to take down their midfielder too. Take the yellow. But the gutless prick did nothing. He was the one that ran out and left Deeney free a minute earlier too. Backbone of a snail
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Who do we get in as manager though?
If the owners are serious they will have already sounded out new managers.
They are serious. They've just given Dean a brand new contract.
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I've rarely seen such a lack of confidence in a team.
I've seen it before, we got relegated.
True enough. :(
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Total boke.
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I also don't care about how Wesley tries, or puts a shift in.
Bollocks to this "put a shift in" myth that surrounds him.
Compare him casually jogging to close down and losing every challenge to the way the Watford front 3 fight for the ball.
He does the bare minimum.
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Jota is a central or attacking midfielder, why he's out wide makes no sense. It never works because he has no pace.
I'm expecting a change(s) at HT
I would not hold your breath
Anyway we are only allowed 3 subs and at least 7 of them need taking off
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Who do we get in as manager though?
Silly question - there are so many great options - with our owners, their money, the size of the club. If Everton can attract Ancelotti, you dont think we can attract similar calibre?
Precisely, Villa are a fantastically wealthy club, some would say on that merit alone Dean Smith isn't good enough and we should be aiming higher, thing is that doesn't need to be said, he's proving it.
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Konsa is to blame for goal onmy. Idiot should ahve hoofed that to space. Hos positioning for rebound was also atricous.
All i know is the back four hss been a complete an dutter shambles most of the season and the manager hss to take responsibility.you can get away with not having a great back four in championship but at this level you cant.
This is a unforgiveable perofmance so far at this level. One shot on target all half. Not good enough.
Onviously there will be no changes at half time from smith
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Why does a team that can't pass insist in passing in the most dangerous area of the pitch?
All the tempo we had in the first few months has simply evaporated. Coasting to relegation.
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Is Jack playing on the left again?
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I would love to see two changes at half time. Targett Off and Chester on. House to left back.
Kodija on, Lansbury off.
We’ve got nothing to lose now.
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Is Jack playing on the left again?
I think so, mate.
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I also don't care about how Wesley tries, or puts a shift in. He's paid to be the front man who should, under normal circumstances be the primary goalscorer.
If anyone else on here. "put a shift in" but failed to do their job they be gone in a heartbeat. The whole effort thing is bollocks. He's a Brazilian centre forward who doesn't score goals...us, only fucking us could do that.
With respect that is utter bollocks. If you asked any of the great managers what they want first its work rate ie put a shift in as a minimum. If all the players did that then the goals and quality follows
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Is Jack playing on the left again?
I think so, mate.
He's mostly doing Targett's job for him.
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Who do we get in as manager though?
If the owners are serious they will have already sounded out new managers.
The owners' next move will send us a message of where they intend to take us.
1) Hold onto Smith past the New Year = Inept
2) Bring in manager of similar calibre/holding manager (eg. Big Sam/Moyes, etc) = No ambition
3) Top quality head turning manager = Hold onto your seats!
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Such an important half coming up. I wouldn't expect any sort of change to the tactics now, it seems that the manager has fallen into the trap of bloody minded cowardice that sees so many lose their role.
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Is Jack playing on the left again?
Yep. Hugging the touchline pretty much.
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Out passed, out hussled and Deeney scores, what are the chances.
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No leadership on or off the pitch. If the owners seriously want to stay in this league then they are going to have to decide pretty sharpish if Dean Smith can continue in his role.
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I think if we were to get a new manager, the priority would be a stable appointment to see this ratarsed season through and avoid relegation.
Then look for a head turner.
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I would love to see two changes at half time. Targett Off and Chester on. House to left back.
Kodija on, Lansbury off.
We’ve got nothing to lose now.
When in fact we know we will actually see Lansbury and Jota off and AEG and Trezeguet on and we go again.
It’s all so predictable.
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It's alright, everyone, AEG is coming on.
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take your pick .....
Javi Garcia
Roger Schmidt
Quique Setien
Luciano Spalletti
Marcelino
Ralf Rangnick
Laurent Blanc
Arsene Wenger
Massimiliano Allegri
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AEG on for Jota
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Nope, it’s El Ghazi.
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It'll be Terry as caretaker won't it?
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We're so easy to line up against. Teams know exactly how we'll set up and plan accordingly. Like Norwich on Boxing Day, Watford know Targett gets lost and nearly all their attacks are aimed at him.
Jack is no good wide left - put him central. Wesley is no good full stop/ Get Kodjia on and give their defenders something to think about rather than an easy afternoon at Vicarage Road
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Jota off for AEG.
Jota has been a massive disappointment
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Anwar to the rescue with a second half double hattrick.
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The problem with these signings is that Mings apart I cannot see much discernible talent and certainly a lack of characters in the side. Very worrying times.
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AEG coming on for an empty space.
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Jota is a central or attacking midfielder, why he's out wide makes no sense. It never works because he has no pace.
I'm expecting a change(s) at HT
I would not hold your breath
Called it.
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Deckchairs on the titanic.
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If that's the last I ever see of Jota, I won't be upset.
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Do Watford often concede in the first five minutes of the second half?
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Oh brilliant. Same shape, same Wesley, now with added AEG. I'm sorry but he really hasn't got a clue
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I think if we were to get a new manager, the priority would be a stable appointment to see this ratarsed season through and avoid relegation.
Then look for a head turner.
Sam Allardyce?
(runs for cover.)
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every moan we have had about the stubbornness and inflexibility of previous managers we are now saying about Smith. Sticking with players who don't deserve the shirt. playing people out of position. Sticking to a formation that doesn't work. Not reacting quick enough to substitutions etc etc. Why does this shit always happen to us? Time to step up to the plate owners and pull the trigger.
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Dropping both wingers was a perfect opportunity to try 5 at the back or a diamond, both of which would allow Jack to be central and 2 strikers.
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That’s twice this game we’ve actually, genuinely, been a danger to ourselves from our own set pieces.
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I don’t mind. Just steady the bloody ship. Grind some results out.
We’re incapable of grinding our own teeth at the moment.
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Fucking hell Wesley, failing to trap a 2 yard pass there.
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No leadership on or off the pitch. If the owners seriously want to stay in this league then they are going to have to decide pretty sharpish if Dean Smith can continue in his role.
Agree with this, by final whistle today we will have played the 3 most defining games of this season, these 3 teams are teams we needed to stay ahead of on our target list of positive results, any decision on the manager most follow this result, the out come of this game, so any new manager has a fighting chance to bring in his own players in Jan to get us out of the muck.
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I really didn’t think Dean would turn out to be so unbelievably shite.
None of us did. Literally nobody
And it’s not a case of being out of his depth or learning the ropes in the PL. He is a truly negligent and abysmal manager who can’t even do the basics. Which doesn’t seem quite right. Maybe decisions are being made for him. In which case the club is truly fucked.
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Dropping both wingers was a perfect opportunity to try 5 at the back or a diamond, both of which would allow Jack to be central and 2 strikers.
This
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Which competition did Wesley enter to get a year's worth of professional football in Aston?
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45 minutes to save your job and on comes El Ghazi.
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Jesus Hause
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I think if we were to get a new manager, the priority would be a stable appointment to see this ratarsed season through and avoid relegation.
Then look for a head turner.
Sam Allardyce?
(runs for cover.)
Fuck me no
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I really didn’t think Dean would turn out to be so unbelievably shite.
None of us did. Literally nobody
And it’s not a case of being out of his depth or learning the ropes in the PL. He is a truly negligent and abysmal manager who can’t even do the basics. Which doesn’t seem quite right. Maybe decisions are being made for him. In which case the club is truly fucked.
Like not dropping the star signing under any circumstances, for example.
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Shout outs to Luiz and Lansbury, both utterly invisible for 45+ minutes.
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What the fuck was hause doing then?
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Which competition did Wesley enter to get a year's worth of professional football in Aston?
Spot the Ball in last May’s Argus.
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A stupid mistake by hause what is up with these bloody defenders
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Fucking hell! Who was that who won the ball then trotted out nonchalantly, only for Deeney to sprint back and steal it back!?!
And why aren't the rest of the team screaming MAN ON at him?!!
Garbage. Utter garbage!
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Staying upright is an achievement for Wes. It's unreasonable to expect him to play football as well.
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We might get something from this game if we move the ball quicker, wake up and stop being second to every ball like usual.
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Look at jack covering targett every time. What a fucking waste of the best player in our team buy a million miles.
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Which competition did Wesley enter to get a year's worth of professional football in Aston?
Spot the Ball in last May’s Argus.
I'm surprised he spotted a ball.
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Dean Smith will not change his tactics. Dean Smith will not play anyone else but Wesley for league games.
If he won't change then the job needs to be taken away from him for the good of Aston Villa.
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There is just no ergency
We need to equalise inside 10 minutes but you cannot see a goal at all
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Our sodding defenders are trying to pass the bloody ball out - often with hilarious results. We’re not fecking Barcelona. We’re more Deportivo Wanker at the moment.
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Which competition did Wesley enter to get a year's worth of professional football in Aston?
Spot the Ball in last May’s Argus.
I'm surprised he spotted a ball.
His son filled it in for him.
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I’m absolutely done with Dean Smith.
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Lansbury is a ******. No doubt about it
Lazy, disinterested fucking waste of a shirt
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I’m absolutely done with Dean Smith.
Same mate. Sadly.
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Staying upright is an achievement for Wes. It's unreasonable to expect him to play football as well.
I'd have thought getting out the tunnel is an achievement for him
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I’m absolutely done with Dean Smith.
Same mate. Sadly.
Make that me as well.
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Targett is fucking desperate. Wesley? What the fuck is he? Beyond crap so far today. Targett's first chance to put in a decent cross fed in by Jack (obvs) and he scuffs in a bobbling grass cutter that would have earned him a round of fucks in a Sunday league game. Utterly useless. We are in deep shit.
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This team is just just too weak.
I'd be tempted to stick Mings in midfield.
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Lansbury is a c***. No doubt about it
Lazy, disinterested fucking waste of a shirt
I don't know why he's still at the club. I don't know why he's in the team. I don't know why we're picking a guy who was peripheral in the Championship and expecting him to be any good in the Premier League.
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From a team with so much hope and promise to this pile of stinking shit - it just does not make any sense
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This manager is going to die on a sword called Wesley. The stubborn, stubborn bastard.
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Poor old Jack, the only left back/left wing/inside forward/ support striker, in the whole world
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BREAKING NEWS...we have an unconfirmed report that Lansbury has touched the ball...more to follow
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We scored loads of goals yet?
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I can see why he picked Conor because getting brushed off the ball is central to our gameplan.
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Watford ripping us apart. Sarr having a field day. Horrible. Horrible...
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Targett is the luckiest footballer alive. Because as shit as he is, he has someone like Jack to keep bailing him out
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This manager is going to die on a sword called Wesley. The stubborn, stubborn bastard.
Like a drowning man clinging onto an anvil.
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This team is just just too weak.
I'd be tempted to stick Mings in midfield.
That might be interesting. Some more leadership there. He's back against Burnley, isn't he?
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Ah shit again. Well played smith 👌
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Total gash. Diabolical.
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I’m absolutely done with Dean Smith.
Same mate. Sadly.
Make that me as well.
And me.
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Jack Grealish. A player that unlock a defence by playing in the middle and bringing into play players either side of him. You know, like he fucking did last year to great effect, is now a left winger where he doesn’t have space left of him, has to cover for an inept full back, and has to constantly cut inside to make anything happen. The fact that he still does is all down to the wonderful player that he is. But what a fucking waste of talent.
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Worse thing is that they aren’t much better than us, just more effort
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We survive, and then Mariappa sent off
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Watford red card.
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Fuck me Watford down to ten men
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I’m happy because we always play really well against 10 men.
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Well we’ve definitely lost now.
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Oh fuck they've had a red card.
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For all the bloody good it will do us
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Watford down to 10.
Home win it is ...
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Smith is not going to make it to 2020. The manager who used have Brentford figting like their lives depended on it producing this fucking chorus line. It is beyond belief.
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We survive, and then Mariappa sent off
What are the odds we now take the game to them and win. I’ll go with zero.
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What an idiot though, gave ref no choice at all.
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Getting fracking Kodija on now before the pack out the midfield!
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What an utterly crap tackle, plonker, thank you, now we have a chance.
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If smith leqves empty against the worst team in league with ten men he has to go
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We're really in the shit now - Watford down to 10 men
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Dean Smith get out of jail card?
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Come back Tim 'tactics' Sherwood all is forgiven.... ::)
Wesley must have something on Smith.
But Watford down to 10. We always do well against 10... don't we?
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Red card. That's Watford's three points sewn up.
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Watford red card.
I’d be delighted if I thought it was going to make any difference but the likelihood is we will be even worse
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Got to be a chance to play Kodija up top with Wes now.
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Take off Lansbury. Bring on Kodjia and fucking go for it FFS Dean
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Luiz isn't exactly Vinnie Jones in the tackle is he?
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Never a red, in a million years,
But there’s smiths post match excuse. It’s always harder against 10 men
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They have made a quick change, will we?
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Now's the time for Kodjia to come on alongside Wes
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You absolute bag of shit Wesley
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Never a red, in a million years,
But there’s smiths post match excuse. It’s always harder against 10 men
No excuses. They are second from bottom, down to ten men.
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Watford 'making a tactical switch'. Are you watching Smith. CHANGE IT
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Wesley fucked it up again. Useless.
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Now's the time for Kodjia to come on alongside Wes
In every one else’s world
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Take off Lansbury. Bring on Kodjia and fucking go for it FFS Dean
So obvious he wont do it
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Take off Lansbury. Bring on Kodjia and fucking go for it FFS Dean
Totally agree, or take off a defender! Something to win the game.
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Fucking crap wesley tales a fucking year to pass the ball and then passes it when elmo is off. He is Hopeless
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They have made a quick change, will we?
No chance. He will persevere with this formation until the 85th minute
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Who's looking forward to 30 minutes of scintillating football against 10 men?
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Can only imagine it's frustrating being O'Kelly and Terry. They're surely advising Smith on potential changes and he's just doing his own stubborn fucking thing.
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I'd bring Wes of, Kods on upfront with Jack just in support of him Jack must be knackered, give the guy a chance to use whatever he's got left in the tank.
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Did they get a man sent off or did we?
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Penalty Watford
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Nice to see ceasing this lifeline.
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Fuck sake
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Fucking hell Targett.
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You stupid twat.
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They have made a quick change, will we?
No chance. He will persevere with this formation until the 85th minute
Or when we concede the 2nd
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Twat
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Just as we were getting ready to bring Kod on.
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Fucking hell?
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Targett... moron.
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He’s thick as shit isn’t he.
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What the fuck is Luiz doing? Idiot. Fucking idiot
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Fuck off all of them
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Guilbert coming on for Targett, VAR confirms pen.
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We are down.
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What a stupid, stupid foul.
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Utterly brainless.
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Luiz needs a long break out of the team, preferably months.
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Smith seriously needs to look at himself
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Pathetic
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What an embarrassment this is. Humiliating.
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As bad an anything that got served up in 15/16.
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Absolutely fucked. He HAS to go.
These wankers need a Nigel Pearson shaped rocket up their arses.
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Fuck off Smith, sacked in the morning I hope. Useless.
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Is this Dean Smith’s Glenn Whelan penalty moment? When you just know the players don’t want you at the club. What a fucking disaster this has become.
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Luiz needs a long break out of the team, preferably months.
[/quote)Luiz needs a long break out of the team, preferably months.
Can we invoke the buy out clause
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E's gorra goo Tom.
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2-0 Deeney
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Smith looks utterly fucking clueless.
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Utterly brainless.
Brainless, clumsy and a nailed on penalty.
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Sacked in the morning i imagine - and he cannot argue
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Game over
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Absolute shite. We're going down unless managerial changes are made and new signings are made.
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Never mind your whinging to the officials Dean, tell Luiz he's a fucking idiotic prick.
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As sick as I feel saying it, I said Deeney would tear us a new one and they'd win 3-0. On for a hat-trick now.
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Smith the clueless fuck.
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We are officially in the shit.
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Can anyone give a valid and credible reason why Wes is still on the pitch?
We would be better off with 10 men. Miles better off. He is that bad.
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Smith looks utterly fucking clueless.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..
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Bye Smith, I won't miss you, absolutely out thought in pretty much every game so far in this league, stuck in his ways, out of his depth. Sack him tonight or we are down.
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Fuck off please smith you clueless waste of space
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How many games this season have we had the extra man? And how many points have we taken?
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Sacked in the morning i imagine - and he cannot argue
Not gonna happen, sadly. I expect the owners to be as stubborn as their manager.
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Smith looks utterly fucking clueless.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..
You own a talented pig.
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Fuck this all. Fucking wank on a pile of turd.
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Grealish to blame, should have played it out with own player down. Luiz no need to challenge where he did
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Cheeky bids for jack in bound.
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Stick a fork in me, I’m done.
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We are officially in the shit.
We were 3 games ago
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Absolute garbage. They could have 8 men, we'd still fucking lose.
Luiz, what a braindead fucking idiot. Game over.
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I am lost for words.
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Don’t fear chaps. As we will now rely on Wesley to lead the line and score for us. Get us back into it.
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Fool Luiz, he was going nowhere and he was always looking for it.
Thanks Smith, but time to go.
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Can anyone give a valid and credible reason why Wes is still on the pitch?
We would be better off with 10 men. Miles better off. He is that bad.
This.
Get Kodjia on for christ's fucking sake, he will at least hold on to the ball a little, Wesley offers us precisely fuck all.
This is absolutely horrendous. He won't be getting sacked any time soon, though.
We are absolutely going down.
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He HAS to go. No fucking clue. Should have switched things when they went down to 10. As always, he either makes the wrong changes or makes them too late - like bringing Kodjia on when we're 3-0 down against Southampton. Completely out of his depth
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3 points from 9 against the bottom three teams, with two of those games at home. Inexcusably shit. Ta-ra Smith, you clueless idiot.
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That's it then, down 2-0 to Watford, this does feel really bad, the gods are clearly working against Smith now, what can go wrong is going wrong, he needs to see this and he needs to make a decision to resign himself, he must see this, he's a Villa fan ffs.
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They deserve this, no arguments from me, we have gifted two poor goals and offered absolutely nothing. Jack need to play in the middle and further forward but we do not have enough quality in the team to do this.
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Deeney looks like Messi compared with Wesley.
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Smith shouting at the 4th official. Needs to look closer to home
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As David (Bumble) Lloyd says on the cricket commentary - start the bus.
And make the fuckers (Grealish and Heaton excepted) walk home.
The first thing Jack should do when he gets in the dressing room at full time is phone his agent.
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If he loves the club (and i dont doubt that he does) then he should offer his resignation tonight to give the club a chance of survival
He had his monet that will live with us and him forever but sadly he has been found out in the big boys league
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Dean Smith needs to fuck off with whatever he’s complaining about. A clear a penalty as you will see. Look in the mirror you fucking mug.
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3 points from 3 games against the other teams in the bottom 4?
Nah. Thanks for last season Deano, but you've got to go.
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Do the owners seem to be bothered about what's going on at all? Did they want a return on their (extremely) heavy investment?
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Yes the players were at fault but it all flowed from smith’s entirely predictable failure to make the most of the extra man.
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just pathetic everywhere you look, giving away possession so much.
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Has he bought Kodija on yet?
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3-0
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3-0
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If Smith spent as much time thinking about subs and tactics as he does shouting at the officials we'd be much better off. He's lost it.
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Why Guilbert for Targett? The penalty was always likely to be scored, why not put a forward on at that point? Poor management.
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3-0.
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Lansbury couldn't game a game for us in the Championship.
No way he he is good enough in the big league.
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We have zero clue or confidence
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LOL
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Oh hell
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And still Kodjia is keeping his seat warm
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Purslow can fuck off too, the stupid fucking twat.
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I can’t understand it. A few weeks ago, we drew 2-2 at Man Utd and we looked like a strongish team with a good chance of staying up. Several weeks later, we’re serving up this.
3-0. Tucking useless
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VAR checking for the foul on Jack.
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Wow.
Impressive stuff, Dean, 3-0 down against a 10 man Watford.
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Jesus
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He needs to go tonight
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It's actually laughable now.
No one has a clue what to do out there.
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And it's somehow given, 3-0
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3-0
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Out of interest has Deeney been giving it the large one in front of our fans after scoring?
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This is actually painful, that's it Deano the games up, thanks for the memories.
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These players are playing to get the manager fired. It’s very, very clear.
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Smith out
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Out of interest has Deeney been giving it the large one in front of our fans after scoring?
Of course.
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These players are playing to get the manager fired. It’s very, very clear.
Yes, I think so, too.
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He can't survive this.
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These players are playing to get the manager fired. It’s very, very clear.
And they're shite.
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Out of interest has Deeney been giving it the large one in front of our fans after scoring?
Yes
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3-0. Clueless.... We look like we're the ones with 10 men.
Just wish I'd put a bet on it :(
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Congratulations chaps. Losing 2 goals to a 10 man side.
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Out of interest has Deeney been giving it the large one in front of our fans after scoring?
Yes and I don’t blame him at all
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Hause really impressive there in not even breaking sweat to try to block that ball from coming to the scorer.
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Bye Dean.
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That’s that.
If the new owners don’t sack him tonight then they can fuck off as well.
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That's it Dean, put Kodjia on when we're 3 down. Bet Jimmy's thinking "well fuck you very much".
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Comprehensively out thought and out fought by Pearson and Watford, resign tonight Dean and do us all a huge favour.
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How freely did 10 men walk through us - we are bottleless
They had 4 in the attack against 2 of ours
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Let's not forget Watford have scored two more goals with less players.
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Not only do I think we are going down, I think we will finish bottom. Team is a fucking shambles and the manager is completely out of his depth.
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10 man Watford absolutely all fucking over us. Clueless, rudderless fucking mess.....And now he brings on Kodja? At 3 fucking O.
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"You've got 18 minutes Kodj, go out and win this for us."
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Just walk tonight Smith please
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My God, how easy was that for them?
Just took the ball off us.
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Kodjia on at 1-0 down or 3-0 down, over to you Smith?
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You just can't keep getting outplayed by your closest rivals. What has gone wrong since November?
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Exactly as I said - brings Kodjia on when we're 3-0 down. He hasn't got a fucking clue. The biggest trap he's set this season is getting a new 4 year contract.
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Grealish to blame, should have played it out with own player down. Luiz no need to challenge where he did
And Grealish gives it away again and costs another goal
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1-0 down to 11 men to 3-0 down to 10 men. You can't make this stuff up except if you're Villa under Dean Smith.
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I just hope the outcome of this doesn't just result in John Terry as caretaker manager for weeks/months on end.
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Bloody hell this is a desperately depressing read. I can only echo - no changes, no new players we are already nailed on to go down. I like Dean but he's looking completely lost now.
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We were lucky to beat Norwich, so...
How many wake ups does he need?
Did we keep the receipt for Wesley?
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I just hope the outcome of this doesn't just result in John Terry as caretaker manager for weeks/months on end.
He can fuck off as well.
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“You had it all...
and you fucked it up!”
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Shambles. P45 now'
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Out of interest has Deeney been giving it the large one in front of our fans after scoring?
Yes
These players are playing to get the manager fired. It’s very, very clear.
And they're shite.
They should also be ashamed of themselves. Tossers. Where's their professional pride?
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These players are playing to get the manager fired. It’s very, very clear.
And they're shite.
When Watford were bottom their players were shit. When Southampton were getting battered 9-0 their players were shite. Yet in both cases both teams have found ways to fight and win mainly down to managerial or tactical changes. We have none of that with the manager who has committed to one way of playing that clearly does not work. He is the problem, more than the players.
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Not only do I think we are going down, I think we will finish bottom. Team is a fucking shambles and the manager is completely out of his depth.
Not if we act fast, recover from this, we are in the fortunate position of being in this division whereby its very close at the bottom, a few wins and we are out of it, we need to make changes tonight.
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Enough. Enough of this shit. Either Smith goes this weekend and we get the players we obviously need in January, or I'll genuinely welcome falling back into the arms of the Championship. This is like watching one of those knackered donkeys off the begging adverts trying to run the derby.
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Dean has blown our chances of survival this month. We need a manager who can get us promoted without grealish and McGinn and it isn’t him.
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Another magical touch by Wesley
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Oh how we scoffed when people were saying that we'd "do a Fulham".
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Shot of Purslow in the crowd.... Hopefully sharpening his axe for the post match 'chat' with Dean.
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The players are not good enough, but what really worries me is the complete lack of spirit and effort.
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(https://i.ibb.co/HHvxjSS/Screenshot-2019-12-28-at-16-36-06.png) (https://ibb.co/HHvxjSS)
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Oh how we scoffed when people were saying that we'd "do a Fulham".
Trolling our own fans is not really needed right now.
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(https://i.ibb.co/HHvxjSS/Screenshot-2019-12-28-at-16-36-06.png) (https://ibb.co/HHvxjSS)
'Playing' being the operative word.
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Wes is still on the pitch.
Ha ha ha...
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Villa players, heads down, terrible.
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These players are playing to get the manager fired. It’s very, very clear.
And they're shite.
When Watford were bottom their players were shit. When Southampton were getting battered 9-0 their players were shite. Yet in both cases both teams have found ways to fight and win mainly down to managerial or tactical changes. We have none of that with the manager who has committed to one way of playing that clearly does not work. He is the problem, more than the players.
Heard this before when we were relegated last time. The manager is shit and the players are shit. That's why teams go down.
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It doesn't get much worse than this.
I don't think we are doomed yet. I said we'd get tonked today - Watford were the worst team to face today.
Deeney is up there with Savage. Cnut.
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1-0, maybe they would have given Smith an ultimatum. 3-0 to ten men, we're bringing Benitez back to the Prem.
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Oh how we scoffed when people were saying that we'd "do a Fulham".
Cracking stuff mate. Well done.
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Sitting at home, so my opinion is very heresay, but the selection is just not good enough. Missing Mings and McGinn and we have the feel and look like a championship side
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What an absolute disgrace some of those players are today.
Not fucking fit to wear the shirt.
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This is the moment, it has to be.
Look at Watford with Pearson (!!) , for Christ's sake, Everton with Ancelloti.
Make a change now and we have a chance. Keep him and we have had it.
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I would not mind betting that every one of those Villa players will be out on the piss tonight.
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The players are not good enough, but what really worries me is the complete lack of spirit and effort.
Yes I mean Chris Wilder has made Enda Stevens capable at Premier League level.
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Oh how we scoffed when people were saying that we'd "do a Fulham".
Trolling our own fans is not really needed right now.
I'm not trolling our fans. In those optimistic days of summer I was repeatedly pissed off with the supporters of other teams who trotted out that line every time we made a signing.
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What an absolute disgrace some of those players are today.
Not fucking fit to wear the shirt.
This. I've no time for most of them.
If we do get rid of Smith, it'll be interesting to see how they play/fight/behave.
This is feeling distinctly like 2015/16 all over. At least we're past Christmas, and can't have a bad santa video.
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Sitting at home, so my opinion is very heresay, but the selection is just not good enough. Missing Mings and McGinn and we have the feel and look like a championship side
We might be missing 2 of our starting 11, but there is no excuse for lack of effort. That is unforgiveable.
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I would not mind betting that every one of those Villa players will be out on the piss tonight.
What makes you think that Brian?
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I would not mind betting that every one of those Villa players will be out on the piss tonight.
Think they sank a few at half time.
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Because I dont think they care Jon.
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Grealish clearly trying to get a yellow card. Shoving everyone around the pitch.
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Who went off for Kodjia ? Genuinely, it’s hard to tell
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He's not had a good game himself but Jack looks monumentally pissed off and he's quite right to.
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We'll be getting a red if this carries on.
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Oh how we scoffed when people were saying that we'd "do a Fulham".
Trolling our own fans is not really needed right now.
I'm not trolling our fans. In those optimistic days of summer I was repeatedly pissed off with the supporters of other teams who trotted out that line every time we made a signing.
But you felt the need to bring that up right now when we're all hurting watching our team get destroyed by feckin Watford?
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We have to try a new broom - we’re stuck with the players but desperately need some different tactics.
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We have to try a new broom - we’re stuck with the players but desperately need some different tactics.
Any tactics would be a start.
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We have to try a new broom - we’re stuck with the players but desperately need some tactics.
Fixed that for you.
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Oh how we scoffed when people were saying that we'd "do a Fulham".
We're not though. We're doing a Villa. An absolute classic Villa.
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Who went off for Kodjia ? Genuinely, it’s hard to tell
Lansbury.
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Watford could lose another player and still look more likely to score.
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With a game in a few days I doubt any of them will be. And even if they did, who cares. I bet everyone on here has gone out after a shit day at work.
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Never called for a manager to be sacked but he's got to be gone tonight. They're his players & playing his tactics.
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Who went off for Kodjia ? Genuinely, it’s hard to tell
Lansbury.
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Oh how we scoffed when people were saying that we'd "do a Fulham".
Trolling our own fans is not really needed right now.
I'm not trolling our fans. In those optimistic days of summer I was repeatedly pissed off with the supporters of other teams who trotted out that line every time we made a signing.
But you felt the need to bring that up right now when we're all hurting watching our team get destroyed by feckin Watford?
Yeah, because I'm the only one on this match thread whose been negative and raised the spectre of relegation.
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I would not mind betting that every one of those Villa players will be out on the piss tonight.
Think they sank a few at half time.
I know Luiz was out on the piss after the Southampton shambles.
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We haven't laid so much as a fingernail on them.
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We haven't laid so much as a fingernail on them.
Truly disgraceful performance.
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Mistake playing grealish on the left don’t understand it. Looking likely now. The only hope, and it’s not much hope, is like Wigan last January, this is the low point of season
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The players are not good enough, but what really worries me is the complete lack of spirit and effort.
Yes I mean Chris Wilder has made Enda Stevens capable at Premier League level.
I’ve been saying the same. This group of players should have won games vs Spurs, Arsenal, even Liverpool. We matched them until the very end, and had Smith been better tactically we would have. Here’s what then happened. Teams scouted us and adapted to what we were good at. Our manager didn’t adapt at all and kept with the same system. So teams knew how we would play, how to stop our best players. Our manager kept playing Wesley even when it clearly wasn’t working. He shunts our very best player on to the left wing. We are predictable. Predictable leads to predictable results and will if he’s not fired tonight.
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I care. Is it too much to hope the players share some of our pain?
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I've had to turn it off. Can't see Pearson's smug face after this, as I can't afford a new phone.
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I would not mind betting that every one of those Villa players will be out on the piss tonight.
Think they sank a few at half time.
I know Luiz was out on the piss after the Southampton shambles.
Really?
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Amazing...
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Oh how we scoffed when people were saying that we'd "do a Fulham".
Trolling our own fans is not really needed right now.
I'm not trolling our fans. In those optimistic days of summer I was repeatedly pissed off with the supporters of other teams who trotted out that line every time we made a signing.
But you felt the need to bring that up right now when we're all hurting watching our team get destroyed by feckin Watford?
Yeah, because I'm the only one on this match thread whose been negative and raised the spectre of relegation.
You’re right TopDeck, you have a valid reason for your comment.
I don’t thing we “scoffed” at the phrase though, but “reasoned logically”!!
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Jack booked?
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I've had to turn it off. Can't see Pearson's smug face after this, as I can't afford a new phone.
He’s doing precisely what he’s getting paid to do. Our manager isn’t. He’s entitled to being smug.
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There's the card for Jack to keep him out of the next game then. Fucking stupid.
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Amazing...
Not the Luis thing, just the current state of us, pathetic. Did the hard thing in getting back to the PL and have conspired to be as utterly fucking one dimensional as possible on their return
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Jack booked?
Yep
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Jack booked?
Yes
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Jack has spent 45 minutes trying to get himself booked.
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Wish they put as much effort into the football as they have the handbags pushing and shoving every time a freekick has been given.
Pricks. All of them.
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Watford won't have an easier game all season
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Jack's definitely trying to get himself booked. Oh and he has. So missing for Blackburn
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Jack wanted that card.
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There's the card for Jack to keep him out of the next game then. Fucking stupid.
...or deliberate?
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Hopefully in 2020 we'll have a new manager. Too fixated on a formation that doesn't work, no plan b and the players don't look like they want to play for him. Gotta go.
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I've had to turn it off. Can't see Pearson's smug face after this, as I can't afford a new phone.
He’s doing precisely what he’s getting paid to do. Our manager isn’t. He’s entitled to being smug.
I didn't say he wasn't entitled to be smug. But I know what you mean.