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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on December 17, 2019, 09:35:29 PM
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Job done and Villa have given me a semi.
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"That'll shut a few up!"
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Dodgy start, and Liverpool had a few chances after that, too, fair play to them.
Still, overall, job done. And the last goal put a gloss on it. Well done Nyland and Kodjia, in particular. One round from Wembley. COYVB.
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One for the history books.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XadLaAYKol0
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Delighted Wes and Kod scored.
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Good to see Wesley sticking one in. Nice to see Kodjia getting a couple too. Although more and more I am starting to wonder what the point of Jota is.
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The easiest passage to a semi-final since England at the last World Cup.
Chuffed for Wes at the end, hopefully that boosts his confidence.
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We didn’t play great to be fair but you can’t really win games like this. Pleased to see big Wes on the scoresheet, he really needed that.
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We didn’t get out of second gear ourselves for most of the game and when we stepped it up we scored almost at will. What is concerning is how much time Liverpool has with the ball and how much time it took to win it back off them. Their passing was better than ours and Nyland has to be excellent when we fell asleep a few times. But into the SF.
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Although more and more I am starting to wonder what the point of Jota is.
I thought he played pretty well actually. He knocks it around better than most of our lot. His overall effectiveness though is limited by being painfully slow.
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Great stuff!
Glad Wesley got one at last!
Would a kind Mod unlock the GTC thread for this match, please, as I have to post the scores at the end of it! 👍
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Confucius say, when its obvious the goals cannot be reached, don't adjust the goals adjust the steps, sayonara.
Good win.
Look out Southampton a reborn Villa coming your way.
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They were technically superior to us but experience is so important and we had a little bit of luck. Nyland MOTM by far.
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Get in. First team to beat Redplop this season!
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We committed 4 fouls in the entire game, and won 2 corners.
This is what you would expect to see in a training game.
Good to see Kodjia and Wesley on the scoring sheet.
Liverpool have some very good young players.
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Although more and more I am starting to wonder what the point of Jota is.
I thought he played pretty well actually. He knocks it around better than most of our lot. His overall effectiveness though is limited by being painfully slow.
Playing out wide simply isn’t his position now even if it was when he was younger. Although I doubt he was ever quick. He’s better served behind the forward versus against fast full backs.
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Job done. Roll on Saturday. Kodja to start for me.
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Did what we needed to do without really breaking a sweat. Nyland was excellent, Kodjia is back scoring and smiling. I'm also happy for Wesley, that actually was a decent, clinical finish.
Fingers crossed Everton do Leicester tomorrow and we get them next up.
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Did what we needed to do without really breaking a sweat. Nyland was excellent, Kodjia is back scoring and smiling. I'm also happy for Wesley, that actually was a decent, clinical finish.
Fingers crossed Everton do Leicester tomorrow and we get them next up.
They would bring over 30k to Villa Park.
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Get in. First team to beat Redplop this season!
First domestic team.
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Get in. First team to beat Redplop this season!
Apart from Napoli.
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Did what we needed to do without really breaking a sweat. Nyland was excellent, Kodjia is back scoring and smiling. I'm also happy for Wesley, that actually was a decent, clinical finish.
Fingers crossed Everton do Leicester tomorrow and we get them next up.
Fingers crossed Colchester do Man U tomorrow and we get them next up.
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We won comfortably.
They had chances but there was a gulf in quality.
Wesley took his goal well, right in the corner.
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Did what we needed to do without really breaking a sweat. Nyland was excellent, Kodjia is back scoring and smiling. I'm also happy for Wesley, that actually was a decent, clinical finish.
Fingers crossed Everton do Leicester tomorrow and we get them next up.
Fingers crossed Colchester do Man U tomorrow and we get them next up.
Was reminiscing last week with my mate about beating Norwich at the same stage under Lambert, then hearing Bradford knocking out Arsenal as we were on the way back.
That worked out well for us.
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Hiding to nothing with this game. Job done, banana skin avoided and one step from Wembley.
Let’s not get carried away though - without the performance of Nyland, it could have been very different.
Liverpool u23s had same shots on target as us, with 160 odd more passes. 5-0 massively flattered us massively.
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Get in. First team to beat Redplop this season!
I’ve got Napoli on the phone, and they’re annoyed.
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Get in. First team to beat Redplop this season!
I’ve got Napoli on the phone, and they’re annoyed.
Probably not a good team to annoy, given some of their connections.
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We won, three nice goals, two fortunate one's. Can't be unhappy with the scoreline as it'll go into the record books and no-one will care if we played their reserves/youth set-up. Good from Nyland, although some really poor defending again in front of him. For me, Lansbury is still absolutely shite and not worth a place in the top division. People saying Jota was poor yet he set up a couple of the goals., he is painfully slow and not good enough at the top level, same as Lansbury. Job done without really playing well. I thought Villa looked a bit of an unhappy camp, maybe I am looking too much into the lack of celebration with Wesley.
Lowest crowd of the season by far too.
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Well done Kodj and well done Wes, now lets get 3 points Saturday.
UP THE VILLA
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"That'll shut a few up!"
You don't say!
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I have to say the coverage on the tv and radio was rubbish. The narrative was all about the kids, regardless of the result. No balance whatsoever.
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Routine win
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Get in. First team to beat Redplop this season!
No.
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I have to say the coverage on the tv and radio was rubbish. The narrative was all about the kids, regardless of the result. No balance whatsoever.
Even Conor stated it was a lose lose situation for us. A win and everyone will only talk about Liverpool kids. A loss and they will only talk about Liverpool kids. Liverpool has a big enough squad of players to be able to put old heads in their team as mix it around and decided not to.
Doesnt stop all the arseholes texting into the BBC stating it is the EFL's fault for not allowing 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' to move the match to a more convenient time for them, forgetting that there are two teams in it and moving the match would have been more inconvenient to us. Bizarely someone has texted in stating it is the FA's fault for not playing the first three rounds in August before the season starts.
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We did a great service to Carabao Cup in particular and football in general tonight. Liverpool disrespected this competition and were rightly trounced. Forget this rubbish about kids, they fielded a team, we sorted it so fuck em I say.
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Allez, allez,allez
Take that you whinging Redshite Scouse scumbags
I've never known my neighbours be so quiet on a match night
Villa scarf and hat to be worn when walking Marley in the park tomorrow morning :)
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So who do we fancy in the semis? Oxford or Colchester?
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Hopefully Alan Hansen will have once again been watching a Villa win and muttering something about not winning anything with kids.
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Allez, allez,allez
Take that you whinging Redshite Scouse scumbags
I've never known my neighbours be so quiet on a match night
Villa scarf and hat to be worn when walking Marley in the park tomorrow morning :)
Enjoy mate. You deserve it more living in "enemy" territory. :)
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I have to say the coverage on the tv and radio was rubbish. The narrative was all about the kids, regardless of the result. No balance whatsoever.
I was beginning to think we had lost 5-0 from the glowing praise being heaped on Liverpool.
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I think we needed that. I only watched on TV (actually, a laptop) but it was god to see us panic and then regain control and composure. Also great to see Chester back. Also their kids are excellent.
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Nice to score 5, Kodjia played himself into contention for Saturday, before Wes gave Deano a nudge at the end. Nyland played well for a third choice keeper.
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Really pleased for Nyland tonight. He kept us in the game in the first 15 minutes.
His shot-stopping was excellent and his distribution was first-rate as well.
The one thing that would make this hilariously better would be if their other (grown-up) team get a serious stuffing from Monterrey in Qatar tomorrow night.
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We didn’t get out of second gear ourselves for most of the game and when we stepped it up we scored almost at will.
Liverpool didn’t get into top gear either, except when Clarkson came on.
(Sorry, coat etc etc)
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Aston Villa 5 Liverpool 0.
It doesn't matter who turned up for them.
Professional job done.
Good to see James Chester back playing and I was pleased Kodjia and Wes both scored.
Hopefully this will be a confidence booster going into Saturday. UTV!
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We did what we needed to, so job done. Apparently Trez is still out there trying to score...
Oh, and I’d start Kodjia on Saturday too.
UTV
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Ultimately we got a very lucky draw given the circumstances. Was worried about being embarrassed but sidestepped that comfortably. Another lucky draw in semis now please.
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Although more and more I am starting to wonder what the point of Jota is.
I thought he played pretty well actually. He knocks it around better than most of our lot. His overall effectiveness though is limited by being painfully slow.
Playing out wide simply isn’t his position now even if it was when he was younger. Although I doubt he was ever quick. He’s better served behind the forward versus against fast full backs.
Completely agree with this. I think he’s probably one of the best players at picking out a pass at the club, but is too slow out wide. In the hole just behind the forward would be perfect for him but would possibly need a tactical shift round to accommodate it.
On the whole in a no win situation, perfect result and professional performance. Nyland, Elmo, Chester and Luiz (2nd half) stand outs.
Likely to be Man U, Man City and Leicester other semi finalists. Never thought I’d ever say this, but give us Man U now.
Onto Saturday, massive game.
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We won.
You can only beat what’s put in front of you.
However, Trezeguet is fucking rubbish.
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Jots has quick feet and an eye for a pass, agree he should be in the 10 role.
Not quick or strong enough to play wide and not sure how you play him in 4 3 3
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I reckon Luis will be a top player for us . wasnt has bad as some made out . Taylor shows why he is championship lik Lansbury . Trez needs to practice his finishing . Kod and Wesley together could have worked. Nyland excellent .
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Nyland made some great saves tonight.
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Going forward Hogwarts looked very assured, but defensively it was a case of bigger players bullying them.
We won.
Our reserves enjoyed playing too, you could see it on their faces
Nyland was cracking.
No room for complaints from me.
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Job done, onto the semi. Meh.
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We did a great service to Carabao Cup in particular and football in general tonight. Liverpool disrespected this competition and were rightly trounced. Forget this rubbish about kids, they fielded a team, we sorted it so fuck em I say.
Haha. Yes mate. Agreed.
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We did a great service to Carabao Cup in particular and football in general tonight. Liverpool disrespected this competition and were rightly trounced. Forget this rubbish about kids, they fielded a team, we sorted it so fuck em I say.
What the fuck were they supposed to do?
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Blimey if you read their after match debate on RAWK they can't stand us and are desperately hoping to thrash us in the league game at Anfield as well as send us down.
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I wonder what players Liverpool could have fielded given the fact their senior squad were otherwise engaged. If they had no choice but to play all the kids fine. If they omitted certain out of the first team picture senior players who could have played just to prove a point then they are out of order as the kids could have done with some more senior back up rather than being thrown to the lions.
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Thought before he came on that a duel spearhead of Kodja and Wes could work but wasn't to be.. Thought Kodja ran the lines well but still over does things, even against the kids Taylor was awful thought the ball control of the under23s was excellent and superior to our reserves.
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Blimey if you read their after match debate on RAWK they can't stand us and are desperately hoping to thrash us in the league game at Anfield as well as send us down.
Line of the night on there basically saying we ruined the night for them when we scored the fifth, because we didn’t need to. This lot set new highs in being conceited, the poor things.
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Thought before he came on that a duel spearhead of Kodja and Wes could work but wasn't to be.. Thought Kodja ran the lines well but still over does things, even against the kids Taylor was awful thought the ball control of the under23s was excellent and superior to our reserves.
To be fair, judging by some of the names of those under 23's Liverpool have cast their net worldwide for young talent.
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Kodjia can still turn a man like nobody else since my gay brother-in-law.
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We did a great service to Carabao Cup in particular and football in general tonight. Liverpool disrespected this competition and were rightly trounced. Forget this rubbish about kids, they fielded a team, we sorted it so fuck em I say.
What the fuck were they supposed to do?
They could have given it a better mix. Didn’t need to have their 23 senior players in Qatar today. 6 or 7 could have played and flown out post match.
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When he kept moaning about the semis being two legs, I got the feeling that he wanted to prove a point.
I think they could have supplemented the youngsters with more experienced pros. I'm sure many would rather have played in a Quarter-Final at one of the great homes of British football than sit on a bench in the desert.
However, the blame for the lineup they put out lies not with Klopp or Liverpool, but with the Premier League. There has never been a problem previously when English clubs have taken part in the World Club Cup (with the exception of Man U in 2000 when the competition had a lengthier format). It's because they insisted on pissing about with League Cup dates to accommodate a February break that no fans have ever requested.
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We did a great service to Carabao Cup in particular and football in general tonight. Liverpool disrespected this competition and were rightly trounced. Forget this rubbish about kids, they fielded a team, we sorted it so fuck em I say.
What the fuck were they supposed to do?
They could have given it a better mix. Didn’t need to have their 23 senior players in Qatar today. 6 or 7 could have played and flown out post match.
And none of those players would be available until their final game out there. I don't blame Liverpool at all for what they did, the fault is with no one at the FL thinking that the one of the best sides in the country may win a couple of games in the competition.
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We did a great service to Carabao Cup in particular and football in general tonight. Liverpool disrespected this competition and were rightly trounced. Forget this rubbish about kids, they fielded a team, we sorted it so fuck em I say.
What the fuck were they supposed to do?
They could have given it a better mix. Didn’t need to have their 23 senior players in Qatar today. 6 or 7 could have played and flown out post match.
I think Klopp knows what he needs. Given the situation they were put in by the league they had to prioritise and they did. I have no problem with that at all.
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Apart from it getting very cold towards the end of the game, I actually quite enjoyed that given strength of the respective line ups. Good to see James a Chester back playing and although Nyland had a couple of dodgy moments with the ball at his feet, he made some good saves.
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Blimey if you read their after match debate on RAWK they can't stand us and are desperately hoping to thrash us in the league game at Anfield as well as send us down.
Line of the night on there basically saying we ruined the night for them when we scored the fifth, because we didn’t need to. This lot set new highs in being conceited, the poor things.
What a horrible site it is. The 'travellling Kop'. Vomit inducing.
Sound like a bunch of self entitled cry babies. Fuck em.
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A bigger version of Newcastle. Absolute crybabies, still angry about us taking the piss out of Gerrard's birthday.
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That RAWK thread is unintenionally awesome.
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Kodjia can still turn a man like nobody else since my gay brother-in-law.
Sounds like a confession.
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The post match comments from their coach were extremely positive about our players and coaching staff.
Players helping theirs through the game (including Taylor and the lad with horrendous cramp) and Smith and Terry going to the dressing room afterwards to say some positive words.
From what I could tell watching in TV the songs between sets of supporters was good and as you'd expect.
Beforehand this seemed like a no win type situation but we have won both on and off the pitch. Professional, respectful and the record books will always show we beat them 5-0.
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I watched the game again tonight and I noticed a lot of that. Also it was clear that we took our foot of the pedal quite a bit. It was men playing against 16/17 year olds so it had to have been awkward for our lads to put in full blooded challenges against kids. You see that in the foul stats. They played very well and they should be commended about that. And we let them more than we should. But it was clear on watching it again our players knew what they were up against and showed the Liverpool kids a lot of respect. And I’m sure Dean Smith would have stressed to do a professional job but not to go out of our way to act like wankers. I think we accomplished all of that.
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How did Chester and Konsa play?
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A bigger version of Newcastle. Absolute crybabies, still angry about us taking the piss out of Gerrard's birthday.
They've definitely got a bit of a chip on their shoulder about us. The Gerrard birthday thing didn't even spring to mind, to be honest, but it all makes sense, now.
When marking an essay yesterday at university, titled 'My Biggest Influence', I at first gave the student an F for writing about Jurgen Klopp.
I then had to grin and bear it, and mark without bias. I can now see where said student was coming from. He's a twat, coincidentally. Have an E for your troubles, Yosuke.
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I might be extra petty and put a smiley face at the bottom with 5-0 in brackets.
Have to be careful in Japan, however. I could well be pulled up for 'power harassment'. :)
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Trez needs to practice his finishing.
He does (https://streamable.com/z5edw).
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Sat in the North Stand for this which made a pleasant change. A good win, it was fairly easy enough in the end and good to see Big Wes grab himself a goal although I think i'd start with Kodjia on Saturday.
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How did Chester and Konsa play?
Chester was excellent.
Regardless of the level of opposition, he read the game impeccably, and was calm and assured with the ball.
I don’t recall him hoofing it once.
I’d have him back in team on Saturday without question, if he is up for it.
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Gerrard’s birthday ? What’s that all about.
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Gerrard’s birthday ? What’s that all about.
In 2015 Gerrard was retiring and the cup final was on his birthday. Cue media narrative. We beat them in the semi and some sang happy birthday to Gerrard in the final in lighthearted “bantz”. Clearly the chippy scousers are happy to give it but not take it.
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We did a great service to Carabao Cup in particular and football in general tonight. Liverpool disrespected this competition and were rightly trounced. Forget this rubbish about kids, they fielded a team, we sorted it so fuck em I say.
What the fuck were they supposed to do?
They could have given it a better mix. Didn’t need to have their 23 senior players in Qatar today. 6 or 7 could have played and flown out post match.
Exactly, they’d be there by now. Are they that worried about Monterrey?
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We did a great service to Carabao Cup in particular and football in general tonight. Liverpool disrespected this competition and were rightly trounced. Forget this rubbish about kids, they fielded a team, we sorted it so fuck em I say.
What the fuck were they supposed to do?
Not field a team of kids. Why take every first team squad member to the desert? They are European champions. They could of fielded a team with players like Milner,Origi etc blended with U23's and let some of the youngsters travel with the first team. They were making a point. They disrespected the competition and got duly spanked. They got what they deserved so fuck em. As for those saying "they made more passes" " Nyland kept us in it" etc etc. Give your heads a wobble and get behind the team your meant to support will you. UTFV.
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We did a great service to Carabao Cup in particular and football in general tonight. Liverpool disrespected this competition and were rightly trounced. Forget this rubbish about kids, they fielded a team, we sorted it so fuck em I say.
What the fuck were they supposed to do?
Not field a team of kids. Why take every first team squad member to the desert? They are European champions. They could of fielded a team with players like Milner,Origi etc blended with U23's and let some of the youngsters travel with the first team. They were making a point. They disrespected the competition and got duly spanked. They got what they deserved so fuck em. As for those saying "they made more passes" " Nyland kept us in it" etc etc. Give your heads a wobble and get behind the team your meant to support will you. UTFV.
Well said! I’m glad someone takes a possible attitude. I’m with you all the way.
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Blimey if you read their after match debate on RAWK they can't stand us and are desperately hoping to thrash us in the league game at Anfield as well as send us down.
Line of the night on there basically saying we ruined the night for them when we scored the fifth, because we didn’t need to. This lot set new highs in being conceited, the poor things.
What a horrible site it is. The 'travellling Kop'. Vomit inducing.
Sound like a bunch of self entitled cry babies. Fuck em.
.....& Kodjia, who hasn’t been able to get a game for months despite us having a non scoring centre forward on the pitch, isn’t supposed to celebrate scoring.
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Yes, they fielded "kids" and you can only play what is in front of you. And a lot of the kids have talent.
Nice of Dean and John to go to them after the game, to say well done etc ( and here's a lolipop and a sticker that says "I've played at Villa Park" ;D )
Seriously, they could have scored. But it allowed a run out for some of our guys and JK needs to start on Saturday.
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Tough tit you scallies! And the European Champions can beat us ten-nil in the League and it's not going to make us cry, is it?
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I was impressed with Nyland. Some good accurate distribution and very good saves. Everyone else seemed to be in 2nd gear but still had enough to win it. Our lowest crowd of the season but our biggest ever to watch our reserves?
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Blimey if you read their after match debate on RAWK they can't stand us and are desperately hoping to thrash us in the league game at Anfield as well as send us down.
Line of the night on there basically saying we ruined the night for them when we scored the fifth, because we didn’t need to. This lot set new highs in being conceited, the poor things.
What a horrible site it is. The 'travellling Kop'. Vomit inducing.
Sound like a bunch of self entitled cry babies. Fuck em.
.....& Kodjia, who hasn’t been able to get a game for months despite us having a non scoring centre forward on the pitch, isn’t supposed to celebrate scoring.
Ridiculous eh? I saw that. Miserable sods. I suppose Kodjia's celebrations weren't pre planned or macho enough/Klopp esque, or stupidly rehearsed ala Sturridge/Firmino.
Worst fans around.
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What seems to be forgotten is they were thrashed 5-0 by Villa's reserves. I wish we'd have played a full-strength team and really humiliated them 10-0! All this "I'm really proud of the lads" is bollocks. The fact is the've totally disrepected and devalued a cup competition.
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Dont care if it was kids we humiliated them. This was no where near our strongest team ever lets not forget that yet we win 5-0.love the media wankfest love in for them even when they get battered.
We didnt even play well yet scored 5.
Not interested in their opinions the scouse fans. We did what we had to do and were respectful towards them. I dont think we did one nasty challenge in the game because they were kids. The fact smith and JT went into their dressing room in the end as well shows our class. We dont need some mindless greasy scousers telling us how we should behave.
Sour grapes i love it 😂
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I thoroughly enjoyed last night and was ecstatic at Wesley's goal. I might be wrong in the long run but I've argued a few times that Wesley hasn't been getting good service from our midfield and wingers. Yet when he does, he scores. Chuffed for him. His little feint to make room for Trezeguet was classy.
I thought Jota was a bright spot and would also love to see how he would fare as the number 10. You can see he loves to raise the tempo of the game through sharp quick passes and I don't think we have anyone else who does that.
I was a touch disappointed with Trezeguet, who I thought was quiet, and Lansbury, who I wanted to see control the midfield more. They just seemed to have so much space in midfield.
But, minor gripes really. I thought their kids did them proud, regardless of the priorities of their club. And another League Cup Semi Final for the Villa! Fantastic! I desperately want to win this again.
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Blimey if you read their after match debate on RAWK they can't stand us and are desperately hoping to thrash us in the league game at Anfield as well as send us down.
Line of the night on there basically saying we ruined the night for them when we scored the fifth, because we didn’t need to. This lot set new highs in being conceited, the poor things.
That's the attitude they take in the American Colonies where 'running up the score' is considered one of the worst things that a team can do.
I know that it's wrong to criticise a team that's just won 5-0 but I'm disappointed that Villa didn't make more of an effort to score at least double that.
That second half was just a pre-season friendly.
I don't think that Taylor has a second career as a physio. Their player was walking worse after Neil's 'treatment' that he was before :)
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You've got to laugh at them begrudging Wes a goal with his record.
At the end of the day, if we'd gone out there to play that could have easily been 8 or 9, but we didn't want to embarrass them. If we were allowed to we'd probably have just agreed to end it at half time. We scored basically at will in the first half then held them at arm's length and didn't bother for 45 minutes. They wanted us to go even easier on them?
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Thank god we didn't concede during that bloody dodgy start! Thankfully Nyland was on fire & the rest of the team managed to get their arses into gear & did the job. Very happy to see Kodja baggin' a couple & Wes finally sticking one in the onion bag at the end. Here's hoping confidence will be boosted for Saturday (albeit with a very different starting 11). Winning is a habit - but then so is losing! Here's to a good festive period & a steady ascent away from the drop zone innit. Looking forward to the cup draw & a shot at a Wem-ber-leeee final.
UTV!
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It was a facile victory and we played our reserve team which would probably fare ok in the Championship.
They have some youngsters that looked technically capable, but then we were playing well within ourselves once the win was secured.
However, the game did make me think about the apparent lack of our academy players coming through. Obviously those Liverpool academy players are also some way off their first team, but even our bench was full of experience.
Apart from O'Hare and RHM who are on loan and might have played, I can't think of anyone near ready to step up to 'reserve' level?
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I have to say the coverage on the tv and radio was rubbish. The narrative was all about the kids, regardless of the result. No balance whatsoever.
Also in Germany. After we scored our first, the tone was like they were commenting on Diana's funeral.
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I was most fearful about the outcome of this one, a game we couldn't really win but it actually couldn't have gone much better.
Trez, Kodja (when he wasn't sitting on his arse in the penalty area), Chester, Konsa all big positives, the others not so much but we didn't find out anything we didn't already know.
Their kids aquitted themselves well, their fans were annoying at times but the Tory chant was fun.
We're in a semi, and have negated the misery of our recent league run meaning Saturday should be more positive which we need for the Christmas run.
I'm happier than I was this time yesterday anyway.
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Blimey if you read their after match debate on RAWK they can't stand us and are desperately hoping to thrash us in the league game at Anfield as well as send us down.
Line of the night on there basically saying we ruined the night for them when we scored the fifth, because we didn’t need to. This lot set new highs in being conceited, the poor things.
What a horrible site it is. The 'travellling Kop'. Vomit inducing.
Sound like a bunch of self entitled cry babies. Fuck em.
.....& Kodjia, who hasn’t been able to get a game for months despite us having a non scoring centre forward on the pitch, isn’t supposed to celebrate scoring.
Ridiculous eh? I saw that. Miserable sods. I suppose Kodjia's celebrations weren't pre planned or macho enough/Klopp esque, or stupidly rehearsed ala Sturridge/Firmino.
Worst fans around.
What about them beating us 6-0 at VP in our relegation season? Was there any need to humiliate us that night? Yeah they showed a lot of class and grace that night. Self entitled pricks.
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Blimey if you read their after match debate on RAWK they can't stand us and are desperately hoping to thrash us in the league game at Anfield as well as send us down.
Line of the night on there basically saying we ruined the night for them when we scored the fifth, because we didn’t need to. This lot set new highs in being conceited, the poor things.
What a horrible site it is. The 'travellling Kop'. Vomit inducing.
Sound like a bunch of self entitled cry babies. Fuck em.
.....& Kodjia, who hasn’t been able to get a game for months despite us having a non scoring centre forward on the pitch, isn’t supposed to celebrate scoring.
Ridiculous eh? I saw that. Miserable sods. I suppose Kodjia's celebrations weren't pre planned or macho enough/Klopp esque, or stupidly rehearsed ala Sturridge/Firmino.
Worst fans around.
What about them beating us 6-0 at VP in our relegation season? Was there any need to humiliate us that night? Yeah they showed a lot of class and grace that night. Self entitled pricks.
Spot on
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RAWK is not all Liverpool supporters by a long way, and Klopp was extremely dignified when they beat us 6-0.
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RAWK is not all Liverpool supporters by a long way, and Klopp was extremely dignified when they beat us 6-0.
I was responding to the comments that others highlighted from their fans (some) after last night. Klopp might of been extremely dignified after that result but the fans were anything but.
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Professional job done last night, good to see Chester have a run out his positioning was excellent. Kodja took his goals well shame he whined so much during the game, especially after being nudged to the ground by a little kid who then whined for the next two minutes.
Nyland great with his hands not so good with his feet, happy for Wes to score shame about the a-hole sat behind me constantly slagging off all of our players, giving loads to Wes and then when he stuck it in the net refused to applaud him as he is so cack. Slagged off Dean Smith for not playing the strongest team in preparation for the weekends game!!
I know everybody is entitled to an opinion but sometimes it makes you realise the stupidity levels of some people.
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Kodjia can still turn a man like nobody else since my gay brother-in-law.
Sounds like a confession.
Outing your BIL on a public forum is brave.
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Kodjia can still turn a man like nobody else since my gay brother-in-law.
Sounds like a confession.
Outing your BIL on a public forum is brave.
The brother-in-law is fictional. I was just searching for a simile and it popped up!
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Big thank you to the club for at long last fixing the tannoy system. First time for nearly 20 years that I’ve understood announcements.
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RAWK is not all Liverpool supporters by a long way, and Klopp was extremely dignified when they beat us 6-0.
You're quite right and actually some of the posts by Liverpool fans below the Graun's post-match report were even-handed, even complimentary in some cases. But RAWK is in my experience the most one-eyed forum around.
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I posted on Facebook last night that we had demolished the European Champions and it was one of the greatest nights in our history, and a Liverpool "fan" (from Wolverhampton, only visits Anfield for the Stadium tour) thought I meant it!
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The record will state Aston Villa 5 Liverpool 0 that's really all that matters.
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The record will state Aston Villa 5 Liverpool 0 that's really all that matters.
If Liverpool had their way it would read Aston Villa 5 Liverpool 0*
* It doesn't really count because we had to field a team of 6th formers.
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Nice to see some comments from their coach about how the club, players and management were towards their ‘kids’. Touch of class
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I’m pretty sure that if by some miracle Villa were to qualify for the Club World Cup I would want them to prioritise that over the League Cup as it might be the only chance we ever get to appear in it. Given that they potentially play two games they need to have their strongest squad available so I really do not have much in the way of complaints about their team last night.
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We were so slow off the mark that for the first ten minutes I thought it might be an embarrassing night. We were a little fortunate with the first couple of goals but then pretty much cruised, albeit giving them several clear sights of goal which Nyland did very well with (shame about his distribution). Their kids look technically very good and you can see a few of them stepping up in a couple of years. Experience told in the end. Glad for Wesley who made some good runs apart from the goal. I thought Trezeguet was pretty dreadful, hardly in it until he missed three very good chances second half although he ultimately played a good ball through for Wesley's goal. My borther's theory is we only bought him because Sawiris is Egyptian and he wanted the Egyptian poster boy to win fans there. I hope that's not the case.
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Not too many complaints....really. I don't have any. I don't care if they send a team of kitchen staff to represent them, as long as Villa win that is fine by me.
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Watching the highlights I thought the celebrations all round were a bit muted which made sense given the occasion.
A quick read on RAWK certainly caused a few smiles. On one hand we’re absolute shit and their first team will smash us at Anfield (maybe they forget the late goals to get 3 points recently?) on the other hand their team did really well considering the age of their team.
Most seem outraged we didn’t roll over and let them win.
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"You can only beat what's in front of you" and we did, with a makeshift team, and pretty comfortably
Everton next please and United in the final
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I posted on Facebook last night that we had demolished the European Champions and it was one of the greatest nights in our history, and a Liverpool "fan" (from Wolverhampton, only visits Anfield for the Stadium tour) thought I meant it!
I have posted something similar. Let's see the Brummie Reds get all offended....
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Watching the highlights I thought the celebrations all round were a bit muted which made sense given the occasion.
A quick read on RAWK certainly caused a few smiles. On one hand we’re absolute shit and their first team will smash us at Anfield (maybe they forget the late goals to get 3 points recently?) on the other hand their team did really well considering the age of their team.
Most seem outraged we didn’t roll over and let them win.
"I don't care about the match or the result. So I've written 800 words on how angry I am by the behaviour of Kodjia / Elmohamedy / the football league / John Terry ten years ago / Villa supporters / the media"
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"You can only beat what's in front of you" and we did, with a makeshift team, and pretty comfortably
Everton next please and United in the final
I'd prefer Oxford then Colchester please
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"You can only beat what's in front of you" and we did, with a makeshift team, and pretty comfortably
Everton next please and United in the final
I'd prefer Oxford then Colchester please
Can we have it the other way round? We don't have a great track record against Oxford in League Cup Semi-Finals.
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No chance. I've only just got home from the last nightmare trip to Colchester. Never again.
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Nyland didn’t look much older than the Klopp Kop Kids.
Good performance from him.
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Nyland didn’t look much older than the Klopp Kop Kids.
Good performance from him.
He was excellent.
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For those mentioning "what could Liverpool do?" Remember that they probably took about 25 players with them to the club side. The numbers last night started at above 50. He has already stated that some of those players would be "rewarded" with flying out and joining the squad which to me means that they could have mixed youth and experience and had any of them fly out.
So, yes, he could have done more but decided to be a bit petulant when it was decided just because it was the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', it didn't mean everything had to be arranged to suit them and so decided the full kids team will play.
Anyway, role on the SF.
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Saw this by Paddy Power on Twitter:. 'VAR not used in the League Cup, Liverpool get smashed 5-0, surprise, surprise'.
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Villa 5 Liverpool 0
Job done
Next please
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For those mentioning "what could Liverpool do?" Remember that they probably took about 25 players with them to the club side. The numbers last night started at above 50. He has already stated that some of those players would be "rewarded" with flying out and joining the squad which to me means that they could have mixed youth and experience and had any of them fly out.
So, yes, he could have done more but decided to be a bit petulant when it was decided just because it was the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', it didn't mean everything had to be arranged to suit them and so decided the full kids team will play.
Anyway, role on the SF.
Absolutely. They have a big enough squad that he could have mixed and matched a bit and left some of the experienced non-regular players behind. They made their choice, but it was a quarter final of one of the two major cup competitions in this country, so I can't see why they are so upset about us taking some pleasure in winning the tie.
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Any players flying out now can only play in the final game. And they've taken 20 players to Qatar. They've done the right thing for them and it's what i'd have wanted us to do in the same circumstances. Seems bizarre to me that people are complaining we didn't play a stronger Liverpool side that would have increased the chances of us not being in a semi final.
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Has anyone seen their team for tonight? They are playing reserves. Arrogant tossers.
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It was very unfair on those young lads. Just think of the pressure of playing in the hallowed number 68 shirt knowing what legends have worn it before you.
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"You can only beat what's in front of you" and we did, with a makeshift team, and pretty comfortably
Everton next please and United in the final
I'd prefer Oxford then Colchester please
I would like to win the lottery and Miss UK to deliver the cash to me.
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It was very unfair on those young lads. Just think of the pressure of playing in the hallowed number 68 shirt knowing what legends have worn it before you.
OMG that’s Emlyn Hughes and Roger Hunt’s shirts combined.
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"You can only beat what's in front of you" and we did, with a makeshift team, and pretty comfortably
Everton next please and United in the final
I'd prefer Oxford then Colchester please
I would like to win the lottery and Miss UK to deliver the cash to me.
Euromillions or the main Lotto?
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Of heck now I am in a quandary🤔 I wish you had not asked😟
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I'm not specifically complaining myself. It was more directed at some people who decided that 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' was so backed into a corner that it was all they could do and the nasty EFL, FA, and everyone else should be hung drawn and quartered for putting them in this position.
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Any players flying out now can only play in the final game. And they've taken 20 players to Qatar. They've done the right thing for them and it's what i'd have wanted us to do in the same circumstances. Seems bizarre to me that people are complaining we didn't play a stronger Liverpool side that would have increased the chances of us not being in a semi final.
I don't think any Villa fan is complaining that we didn't play a stronger squad. It's the fact that Liverpool are complaining about being forced to play a youth team when they clearly had options.
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Has anyone seen their team for tonight? They are playing reserves. Arrogant tossers.
6 of them started the last league game and 3 others came on as subs. The other 2 are Keita and Lallana who have played 20 games this season for them.
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Has anyone seen their team for tonight? They are playing reserves. Arrogant tossers.
6 of them started the last league game and 3 others came on as subs. The other 2 are Keita and Lallana who have played 20 games this season for them.
And only because Fabinho and Wijnaldum who would normally play are injured.
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Any players flying out now can only play in the final game. And they've taken 20 players to Qatar. They've done the right thing for them and it's what i'd have wanted us to do in the same circumstances. Seems bizarre to me that people are complaining we didn't play a stronger Liverpool side that would have increased the chances of us not being in a semi final.
I don't think any Villa fan is complaining that we didn't play a stronger squad. It's the fact that Liverpool are complaining about being forced to play a youth team when they clearly had options.
Plenty are. Again, Liverpool have taken a squad of 20 players to Qatar, 18 are involved tonight, what exactly should they be doing?
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Any players flying out now can only play in the final game. And they've taken 20 players to Qatar. They've done the right thing for them and it's what i'd have wanted us to do in the same circumstances. Seems bizarre to me that people are complaining we didn't play a stronger Liverpool side that would have increased the chances of us not being in a semi final.
I don't think any Villa fan is complaining that we didn't play a stronger squad. It's the fact that Liverpool are complaining about being forced to play a youth team when they clearly had options.
Plenty are. Again, Liverpool have taken a squad of 20 players to Qatar, 18 are involved tonight, what exactly should they be doing?
I don't know or care but im not complaining that we didn't play a stronger Liverpool squad.
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Everton next please and United in the final.
Exactly a decade later. It's time justice was served. 🙏
1999–2000 (Final Reached)
2009–2010 (Final Reached)
2019–2020 ??
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Has anyone seen their team for tonight? They are playing reserves. Arrogant tossers.
6 of them started the last league game and 3 others came on as subs. The other 2 are Keita and Lallana who have played 20 games this season for them.
And only because Fabinho and Wijnaldum who would normally play are injured.
Well whatever😉
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I'm not specifically complaining myself. It was more directed at some people who decided that 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' was so backed into a corner that it was all they could do and the nasty EFL, FA, and everyone else should be hung drawn and quartered for putting them in this position.
This is what I don’t like. Everyone in establishment are always against them and no one else.
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I wish we had Liverpool’s problems
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Well they were put in this position by them. The fault is purely with those that didn't seem to think that one of the best sides in the country may well win a couple of League Cup games and so there would be a fixture clash for this round.
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we are operating on two different levels with different priorities
we are a big traditional football club with a support mostly from the local area and West Midlands in general
Liverpool are a global brand
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I'm another who wants to add his praise to the magnificent Liverpool side who completely outplayed the Villa bastards but luck deserted them and it ended, unfairly, 5-0.
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Well they were put in this position by them. The fault is purely with those that didn't seem to think that one of the best sides in the country may well win a couple of League Cup games and so there would be a fixture clash for this round.
Pretty much my take on it too.
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I posted on Facebook last night that we had demolished the European Champions and it was one of the greatest nights in our history, and a Liverpool "fan" (from Wolverhampton, only visits Anfield for the Stadium tour) thought I meant it!
I have posted something similar. Let's see the Brummie Reds get all offended....
Brummie Red: "pity you haven’t got the class shown by the Villa manager & assistant manager"
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RAWK is not all Liverpool supporters by a long way, and Klopp was extremely dignified when they beat us 6-0.
You're quite right and actually some of the posts by Liverpool fans below the Graun's post-match report were even-handed, even complimentary in some cases. But RAWK is in my experience the most one-eyed forum around.
I remember their inward vented fury at how they had been outsung at Wembley in 2015. Lots of angst ridden posts about their support that day.
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Well they were put in this position by them. The fault is purely with those that didn't seem to think that one of the best sides in the country may well win a couple of League Cup games and so there would be a fixture clash for this round.
Who’s them?
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Well they were put in this position by them. The fault is purely with those that didn't seem to think that one of the best sides in the country may well win a couple of League Cup games and so there would be a fixture clash for this round.
Who’s them?
Those that scheduled the league cup QF ties during the same week a club that was likely to be in them was in Qatar.
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Tough shit. No need to blame anyone.
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Good grief.
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Aha bless. I will come to you on Saturday buy an H&V and give you a hug....so there🥰
Sorry Legion😟
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Aha bless. I will come to you on Saturday buy an H&V and give you a hug....so there🥰
Sorry Legion😟
I won't be selling so give Legion your hard earned, he deserves it.
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Get in. First team to beat Redplop this season!
I think Napoli might have something to say about that.
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Aha bless. I will come to you on Saturday buy an H&V and give you a hug....so there🥰
Sorry Legion😟
I won't be selling so give Legion your hard earned, he deserves it.
And a big hug? Soneone should warn him.
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Great night to be honest to beat Liverpool 5-0 at Villa Park even if it was there U23's I really enjoyed it it was bloody freezing though.
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Liverpool at home? Check.
Villa win? Check.
Villa score five goals? Check.
Yep, it's December 1976 all over again! Okay, maybe not.
Like a few others, I would have loved to have seen a couple of our young lads out on the pitch at 4-0 with half an hour to go.
Ramsey and Archer have appeared earlier in the tournament, for example.