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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave on August 04, 2019, 08:14:21 PM
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Premier League, Saturday 10th August, 17.30
Son and Foyth suspended for them. Alli knackered his hamstring today. Davies, Aurier and Dier all doubtful.
It's good to be back.
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Fuck the fuckers. 1-1.
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Grealish comes back to haunt them as 'the one that got away'. 1-2 win
Kane for them, McGinn equaliser, Grealish winner in the 88th! ;)
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Reality check: a good performance but a 2-1 defeat after being a goal up at HT.
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On the one hand, extremely cool to have pre-match threads which begin like 'Tottenham Hotspur' again. On the other hand, ah fuck, we're going to lose aren't we.
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Be happy with a good performance here, at least to get pundits saying hang on Villa aren’t a bad team. Any points would be a bonus.
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After a battle with the Germans. Penetrated by the Scottish & Irish cavalry (Mcginn & Hourihane) If Mings can contain Kane. 0-1 Aston Villa …….
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The first of thirty-eight victories. COYVB.
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4-0 to them.
From the drains, the gutters and the hovels they rise, the cliche driven pundits, Murdoch shilling takers, Sandwell deadbeats and bitter 'noses to cry "told you so", to damn us, condemn us and to laugh.
But it's only one game, and they will slowly fade as we settle and progress, and the bitterness will envelop them once more.
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Gulp...hope it's not one of those 'orrible ones.
39 months since our last sniff of the big-time, hopefully it's less barmaid's apron and more Maradona on charlie.
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1.3 Easy.
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We will likely lose (I expect Spurs to have another good season) - perhaps day 1 of the new season, we might catch them cold. But I just want to see a performance that has us competitive - if we lose by the odd goal that will be a good sign for the season to come. It wont get much harder than Spurs away.
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Reality check: a good performance but a 2-1 defeat after being a goal up at HT.
This is what I fear will happen, but I can never bring myself to predict a Villa defeat so I've gone for the draw in the poll.
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Narrow defeat, but cause for much optimism.
Spurs 2 Villa 1
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I dreamt we lost 2.1.
I think 4.2 is nearer he mark.
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Solid display. Loads of energy and guile. We will have a plan for Spurs but they are very good. But I have full confidence we can put on a super display and come away with a point.
1-1 Kane, Jota
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Remember promoted Notts County coming to Villa Park first game of the season in 1981 and turning us over.
Except this time we are Notts County .......
1-0 Villa
Jota.
#UTV #AllezAllezAllez
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I suspect we'll lose this one. 3-0 Spurs.
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Random sidetrack :
What year was it we went down there for a night game (I think) and won to go top of the league ? Seats above Park End were massively overfilled, shared my "space" with at least 3 others
And what year did we draw at VP in the FA cup, then beat them 1-0 in the replay midweek?
Two awesome aways.
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Random sidetrack :
What year was it we went down there for a night game (I think) and won to go top of the league ? Seats above Park End were massively overfilled, shared my "space" with at least 3 others
And what year did we draw at VP in the FA cup, then beat them 1-0 in the replay midweek?
Two awesome aways.
1989/90 and FA Cup 1991/92.
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Premier League, Saturday 10th August, 17.30
Son and Foyth suspended for them. Alli knackered his hamstring today. Davies, Aurier and Dier all doubtful.
It's good to be back.
And Kane doesn't score in August.
I wonder when he gets to break that stat?
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Random sidetrack :
What year was it we went down there for a night game (I think) and won to go top of the league ? Seats above Park End were massively overfilled, shared my "space" with at least 3 others
And what year did we draw at VP in the FA cup, then beat them 1-0 in the replay midweek?
Two awesome aways.
1989/90 and FA Cup 1991/92.
Thank you. Same again this weekend please !
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Spurs win seems the most likely outcome to me. It's asking a lot of a load of Premier League novices who've barely played together to go away to a Champions League side who know each other inside out and win. If we take an early lead things might pan out differently but really I'm hoping for some indications that our new guys look at home at this level and can put a shift in.
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Spurs win seems the most likely outcome to me. It's asking a lot of a load of Premier League novices who've barely played together to go away to a Champions League side who know each other inside out and win. If we take an early lead things might pan out differently but really I'm hoping for some indications that our new guys look at home at this level and can put a shift in.
Well we went to a Champions League side Saturday and won.....
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Spurs go to 2 up after 15 mins, loads of smug fuckers as we start 'doing a Fulham', we pull 1 back before HT, awww cute little gallant Aston Villa making a game of it. We rattle in another 5 in the second half with no reply, their big screen goes blank from the shock of it as we make Spurs look like the side just promoted and out of their depth, "even your telly's shit" rings out from the away end.
Fuck 'em all, we're back.
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Spurs go to 2 up after 15 mins, loads of smug fuckers as we start 'doing a Fulham', we pull 1 back before HT, awww cute little gallant Aston Villa making a game of it. We rattle in another 5 in the second half with no reply, their big screen goes blank from the shock of it as we make Spurs look like the side just promoted and out of their depth, "even your telly's shit" rings out from the away end.
Fuck 'em all, we're back.
This. This is what I wanted to say.
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Dele Ali out injured helps our cause a bit.
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Spurs go to 2 up after 15 mins, loads of smug fuckers as we start 'doing a Fulham', we pull 1 back before HT, awww cute little gallant Aston Villa making a game of it. We rattle in another 5 in the second half with no reply, their big screen goes blank from the shock of it as we make Spurs look like the side just promoted and out of their depth, "even your telly's shit" rings out from the away end.
Fuck 'em all, we're back.
Fantastic. This but I don't actually think they will score.
2-0 Villa FTF.
💜💙
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Even game, 1-0 at half time but we look more than decent. We pull one back only to be followed immediately by a very dodger Spurs penalty. They score another in the last few minutes of the game (deflected) to give a scoreline that doesn't reflect the game.
Bournemouth at home will be first 3 points. And the manner that we do it will erase the memory of Spurs' fortune. We'll then go unbeaten for the rest of the month.
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3-1 to us.
First on MOTD.
FTF.
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I went with the missus to Spurs Milan today and thought they were poor, albeit pre-season friendly
So 1-2 Villa. We’re back.
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Before the start of the season and particularly for a new team, this is one of those games that is basically a free hit and any kind of result is a bonus. There’s no shame if we lose this one so it would be great to see a good performance and an indication of how the team is developing...and a bonus if we can get a win of a draw.
1-1.
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away win - why not - we are villa
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Random sidetrack :
What year was it we went down there for a night game (I think) and won to go top of the league ? Seats above Park End were massively overfilled, shared my "space" with at least 3 others
And what year did we draw at VP in the FA cup, then beat them 1-0 in the replay midweek?
Two awesome aways.
The Benteke 1-0 was a great result too. 2014/15 I think.
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Gone for a draw, we seem to have a fantastic spirit with board, management and players all pulling the same direction (and with no small amount of quality) whereas spurs have had Poch sulking about not getting players in again. I can see us catching them cold but them pegging us back in the 2nd half. 1-1
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Spurs 1 v. Villa 4
Just like the old days.
https://hotspurhq.com/2012/08/23/ardiles-and-villa-home-debut-for-tottenham-on-23rd-august-1978-know-your-tottenham-history/
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It has to be a Villa win...I'm interested to see if Douglas or Marvelous get on the pitch.
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Gulp...hope it's not one of those 'orrible ones.
39 months since our last sniff of the big-time, hopefully it's less barmaid's apron and more Maradona on charlie.
I thought Nev’s post above was good, but this made me laugh.
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I think a draw would be the best we can realistically hope for. Just hoping we don’t get ripped apart Early on as if we lose we need something positive to take from the game
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Hoping we might catch them cold early as can happen but i'd obviously bite your hand off for a draw (I have this down as the 3rd hardest game of the season).
I just want to see a good performance have some fluency and create some chances. This will take time but I also think that in time we'll have a really good side. 3-1 Spuds.
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No Dele Alli it appears. Now if only they could lose Kane, Eriksen, Lloris, Mora and Son also.
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No Dele Alli it appears. Now if only they could lose Kane, Eriksen, Lloris, Mora and Son also.
Son's suspended.
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Before the start of the season and particularly for a new team, this is one of those games that is basically a free hit and any kind of result is a bonus. There’s no shame if we lose this one so it would be great to see a good performance and an indication of how the team is developing...and a bonus if we can get a win of a draw.
1-1.
I'll be long cold in the ground before I feel that against these.
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2-0 Villa.
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No Dele Alli it appears. Now if only they could lose Kane, Eriksen, Lloris, Mora and Son also.
Every time I see Spurs play, I always think Lamela is their unsung danger, and Erikson their best player. And they've got Ndombele now, too. A good player.
Son and Alli out is a big plus for us.
You just know that Deano will have done his homework and we'll be well up for it.
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They have a few out and we ran all over Leipzig on Saturday (albeit a friendly).
The least I expect is a really solid performance and a narrow loss however, gone for a draw in the poll.
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Dele Alli out injured.
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Dele Alli out injured.
didnt look any good last season to be fair and Eriksen dont want to be there.
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Please get a point but think a 2-0 defeat
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I’ll be not happy, but maybe you could say content, with worse case 1-goal defeat. I’d dearly love to FTF though! I’ve got a Spurs supporting mate and the last few seasons have been pretty bad with the snidey remarks and all the rest of it. It would be great to have something genuine to rub his nose into, rather than just being able to chuckle at their almost-ran last couple of seasons. I’ve always seen us as similar sized clubs, but with our history overshadowing theirs. I’d love a good solid performance with a Jammy last minute winner!! Come on you Lion!!
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It has to be a Villa win...I'm interested to see if Douglas or Marvelous get on the pitch.
I can't stop smiling everytime I hear we've got a player called Marvelous. :)
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I think we will get a 1-1 draw there we might even nick a 2-1 win but I will stick with a draw.
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They are notoriously poor starters to the new season. We will surprise them and shock them with a convincing win.
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we were 14/1 at one time to beat Spurs
you can still get 11/1 easily
those are long odds on a first game where no one knows what we will be like with the new players etc
after our pre season it’s got to be worth a go
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Yep, had a go at that.
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1-2 win
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We owe spuds more than one going back to 1971 coyl
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As John e said , how can they really plan against us. They will have no idea how we will set up, or even who plays. I think that will apply for the first 4 or 5 games, as new players are included. The other thing is, It wouldn't surprise me if there isn't a transfer out of the spuds team before the game.
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Heaton
Fred 1
Fred 2
Mings
Targett
Conor
SJM
Jack
Jota
Wes
AEG
Jed, Elmo, Hause, Marv, Trez, Keinan, Kod
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Realistically, a Spurs win. But you never know! I think it will be useful to see how we deal with pressure and whether the players keep their heads up and don't collapse whatever's happening.
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Not a good time to play Villa, especially when their Manager and best player in Eriksen look unhappy. Common sense says it’s too much too soon to expect a victory here but I look for some real positives from the game to go forward with.
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Heaton
Fred 1
Fred 2
Mings
Targett
Conor
SJM
Jack
Jota
Wes
AEG
Jed, Elmo, Hause, Marv, Trez, Keinan, Kod
I don’t think that’s too bad a shout on the squad. The only thing is AEG - he had his leg strapped when leaving the team hotel in Leipzig yesterday morning and was limping. I suspect that DS will opt to put Trezeguet in his position for this game so as not to risk AEG any further.
That said, it might just be a twisted ankle and he’ll be running around again today/tomorrow. But that tackle on him was really poor.
So I reckon the following team:
Heaton
Fred
Engels
Mings
Targett
Conor
SJM
Jack
Jota
Wes
Trez
I think it’ll be a close game. It’s either going to be a draw or a small reality check (eg 2-1 Spurs). But I am excited to see how this season goes from now onwards.
Chris
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I've only seen the goals from the Leipzig game, so didn't know he was crocked.
In that case, yes, Trez starts. Possibly Angela to the bench if he hasn't left by then
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I expect us to lose but hope it won't be an embarrassment.
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I've only seen the goals from the Leipzig game, so didn't know he was crocked.
In that case, yes, Trez starts. Possibly Angela to the bench if he hasn't left by then
El Ghazi is fine.
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They said that about Jimmy Anderson...
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FTFS.
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If we don't loose, I for one, will be very happy. Looking forward to the new stadium. Should be a cracking atmosphere.
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We won’t lose. The best Spurs can hope for is a draw.
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A routine 3-1 away win. SJM, Jota and Mings. Trippier for them.
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A routine 3-1 away win. SJM, Jota and Mings. Trippier for them.
Come off it, that's mental, no chance whatsoever.
Trippier plays for Atlético Madrid. 3-0 then! :)
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D 1-1. Well, it worked quite well at the latter end of last season. Superstitious? Me?
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Juan Foyth: Tottenham defender out until September with ankle injury
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49242947
3 points assured
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He's suspended so wasn't going to play anyway.
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Based on what they did in Audi cup this will probably be Spurs 11:
Lloris
Walkers Peters Toby A Vertonghen Rose
Winks Ndombele Eriksen
Lucas Moura Kane Lamela
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None of them would make our starting 11
#levels
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Mad how much I am looking forward to this game. Me and my mate were offered seats in a box, which we took and will be fantastic by all accounts, but regret it a little that we won’t be in with the pack as it’s bound to be an awesome atmosphere.
Since the fixtures came out I’ve always had a sneeky suspicion we could nick it, simply as our tails will be up and you never know how complacent the opposition can be with a newly promoted side. But although Spurs did lose last season to a few unexpected teams, that was away from home.
Spurs don’t draw an awful lot of games, so I think it could be a very good match with lots of attacking intent.
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They did lose at home to Wet Spam.
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We will spank Spurs 2-1. Up the Villa!
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We will spank Spurs 2-1. Up the Villa!
Haha. I keep thinking we may be 2-1 up in the final few minutes and under the cosh, then hit them on the break, a la Luna at Arsenal, to win 3-1. ;D
People often say I'm mad. :-\
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One thing I just noticed. Stuart Attwell is on VAR duty. What could possibly go wrong?!
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I am feeling uncannily optimistic about this one, and in fact about the season ahead for once! I think the bookies may have grossly underestimated us and think we will get a 2-1 result. I would so love Jack to score a spectacular one against them too for obvious reasons! I can dream....
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I have a nagging concern that we may be slightly undercooked compared to Spurs. Their pre season fixtures included Juventus, Man Utd, Bayern Munich and Inter. Our only real test was against Leipzig. Hopefully it won’t play a part but you never know.
I’d be delighted with a draw, then hopefully 3 points against Bournemouth.
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I have a nagging concern that we may be slightly undercooked compared to Spurs. Their pre season fixtures included Juventus, Man Utd, Bayern Munich and Inter. Our only real test was against Leipzig. Hopefully it won’t play a part but you never know.
I’d be delighted with a draw, then hopefully 3 points against Bournemouth.
Spurs will be knackered after that lot and travelling half way round the world to play in all these fixtures just to meet the demands of their commercial sponsors. It’s folly in my view and I prefer our approach.
I of course reserve the right to completely change my mind on saturday night and lambast the club for its naive approach.
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I have a nagging concern that we may be slightly undercooked compared to Spurs. Their pre season fixtures included Juventus, Man Utd, Bayern Munich and Inter. Our only real test was against Leipzig. Hopefully it won’t play a part but you never know.
I’d be delighted with a draw, then hopefully 3 points against Bournemouth.
Given how the season finished last year (12 wins in 15 games) I like the idea of a pre-season that slowly ramps up in quality and lets us keep a winning mentality going. We're now on a run of 17 wins in 20 games including 6 in the last 6. I know pre-season results don't mean anything but confidence and momentum matter and we've beaten pretty much everything put in front of us for 6 months. For this summer I prefer that to travelling all over the world to play in pointless tournaments against champions league sides who would see us as we see some of the teams we've just played. I don't think we'll be coming in cold.
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I have a nagging concern that we may be slightly undercooked compared to Spurs. Their pre season fixtures included Juventus, Man Utd, Bayern Munich and Inter. Our only real test was against Leipzig. Hopefully it won’t play a part but you never know.
I’d be delighted with a draw, then hopefully 3 points against Bournemouth.
Spurs will be knackered after that lot and travelling half way round the world to play in all these fixtures just to meet the demands of their commercial sponsors. It’s folly in my view and I prefer our approach.
I of course reserve the right to completely change my mind on saturday night and lambast the club for its naive approach.
They were only playing in Germany last week. Inter Milan game was actually at WHL wasn't it?
Would snatch your hands off for a draw tbh. I'd be o.k with a narrow defeat just to show we can compete at this level again. Don't want a reality check defeat though.
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I’ll be not happy, but maybe you could say content, with worse case 1-goal defeat. I’d dearly love to FTF though! I’ve got a Spurs supporting mate and the last few seasons have been pretty bad with the snidey remarks and all the rest of it. It would be great to have something genuine to rub his nose into, rather than just being able to chuckle at their almost-ran last couple of seasons. I’ve always seen us as similar sized clubs, but with our history overshadowing theirs. I’d love a good solid performance with a Jammy last minute winner!! Come on you Lion!!
This
Me too - The fans i dislike most, smug under acheivers who act like they only have to turn up to win. I dont care if its a 1 goal win by some flukey deflection ill take it.
Major FTF!!
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A routine 3-1 away win. SJM, Jota and Mings. Trippier for them.
Come off it, that's mental, no chance whatsoever.
Trippier plays for Atlético Madrid. 3-0 then! :)
Really? Wow, I have my finger on the pulse, don't I?!
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Eriksen being linked to Man. United this morning so that's another to potentially scrub off their predicted 11 list.
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Most football fans are blindly optimistic at this stage of the season but we really do have positive cause to be so. There hasn't been such a feel good factor around VP for nearly a decade. Yes, most of us possibly had never heard of Guillbert, Engels, Konsa, Trezeguet and Wesley up until recently but we have assembled a squad of the coach's own choosing who will be technically proficient to be able to play Deano's way. The club will have tremendous backing from the supporters this season - 30,000 season ticket holders is unheard of in my lifetime supporting the Villa. I'm backing us to go to London and put in a performance that we'll be proud of.
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3-3. Our new defence is still settling and Spurs take advantage, but Villa's boldness, confidence and new style ensures we take a point.
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3-3. Our new defence is still settling and Spurs take advantage, but Villa's boldness, confidence and new style ensures we take a point.
Okokok... but the big question is - is it a good 3-3 or a bad 3-3? As in, do we come back from 3-0 down and love it, or do we concede an equaliser and go home thinking 'what if?'?
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Even game, 1-0 at half time but we look more than decent. We pull one back only to be followed immediately by a very dodger Spurs penalty. They score another in the last few minutes of the game (deflected) to give a scoreline that doesn't reflect the game.
Bournemouth at home will be first 3 points. And the manner that we do it will erase the memory of Spurs' fortune. We'll then go unbeaten for the rest of the month.
That rings true to me.
Can't see us failing to score at least once, but they should have enough to get the points.
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I’ll think we’ll lose 2-1, but play good football and make a lot of people who last watched us get relegated sit up and take notice
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I feel more confident we can get a result by the day. With their outs and our ins (Heaton especially) I think we'll do 'em. And do 'em good.
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Even game, 1-0 at half time but we look more than decent. We pull one back only to be followed immediately by a very dodger Spurs penalty. They score another in the last few minutes of the game (deflected) to give a scoreline that doesn't reflect the game.
Bournemouth at home will be first 3 points. And the manner that we do it will erase the memory of Spurs' fortune. We'll then go unbeaten for the rest of the month.
That rings true to me.
Can't see us failing to score at least once, but they should have enough to get the points.
I forgot to mention, we'll do it with 10 men. Wesley will get sent off. The red mist needs to be controlled. With all the new signings we'll miss attention to detail. The lad needs to understand he'll be targeted. Right now he's a three match ban waiting to happen. Oh and I still think we'll beat Bournemouth and finish the month unbeaten.
For all their money saving, new stadium and decent players, Spurs for me are still all fart, not shit. If they want to think they'll win the league after beating us, good luck to them. Tossers; since football was invented.
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3-3. Our new defence is still settling and Spurs take advantage, but Villa's boldness, confidence and new style ensures we take a point.
Okokok... but the big question is - is it a good 3-3 or a bad 3-3? As in, do we come back from 3-0 down and love it, or do we concede an equaliser and go home thinking 'what if?'?
I default to the optimistic and imagine Jack Grealish scoring a late one to nick a point. If we are in the lead we fortunately have no option to bring on Marlon Harewood this time.
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A repeat of the result of 23-8-1978 would be nice
1-4 to the mighty AVFC
Silencing the home crowd witnessing the home debuts of Ardiles and Villa
One of my top ten favourite games - great memories - edit, sorry guys I've just noticed this was referred to on page 3
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Concerned about them exposing our fullbacks and Conor at DM. Let's hope we can give them a game.
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11/1 on betfair.. plus 5/1 the draw...get on...!!!!
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That 1978 game cannot be mentioned enough! What a night, one of my favourite away games too!
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Blimey they are now buying Dybala apparently. That will be £155 on three players after Sessegnon arrives
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Blimey they are now buying Dybala apparently. That will be £155 on three players after Sessegnon arrives
For that amount i'm disappointed Bromsgrove weren't after any of them.
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Blimey they are now buying Dybala apparently. That will be £155 on three players after Sessegnon arrives
That'll be because they're cacking their pants about us coming to town. Ftf.
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Blimey they are now buying Dybala apparently. That will be £155 on three players after Sessegnon arrives
For that amount i'm disappointed Bromsgrove weren't after any of them.
We’re in the PL now kid. We only talk in millions.
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Ticket arrived today. It's bloody huge.
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Blimey they are now buying Dybala apparently. That will be £155 on three players after Sessegnon arrives
For that amount i'm disappointed Bromsgrove weren't after any of them.
We’re in the PL now kid. We only talk in millions.
That attempt at a save was more Guzan 2016 than Heaton!
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Blimey they are now buying Dybala apparently. That will be £155 on three players after Sessegnon arrives
For that amount i'm disappointed Bromsgrove weren't after any of them.
We’re in the PL now kid. We only talk in millions.
That attempt at a save was more Guzan 2016 than Heaton!
Haha you being that pedantic is very gregnash of an even earlier vintage #facepalm
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Haha Love you too honey
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It's bloody huge.
No need to show off
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Blimey they are now buying Dybala apparently. That will be £155 on three players after Sessegnon arrives
I ain't scared of no stinkin' Dybala.
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Larf
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I’ve had a feeling all week for a 1-1
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A repeat of the result of 23-8-1978 would be nice
1-4 to the mighty AVFC
Silencing the home crowd witnessing the home debuts of Ardiles and Villa
One of my top ten favourite games - great memories - edit, sorry guys I've just noticed this was referred to on page 3
VCTM this was my 1st ever away game with my dear Dad...and what a game ! if my memory serves didn't we go a goal down ?
UTV
The Doc
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We've had some good games away to Spurs over the years.
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We've had some good games away to Spurs over the years.
I still rue the introduction of Marlon Harewood at 4-1 up away at Spurs. :'(
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Just knew they were gonna make it 4-4 right at the end
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Hopefully we can catch them cold, because they're on a different level to us squad wise currently.
Be interested to see how high our full backs play on Saturday. I imagine we'll be asking our "wide" players to play a little bit narrower this season particularly away from home, but to think we can just go and play 4-3-3 and go again from what we did last season I think would be naive, so I hope there will be that little bit of flexibility to play as a narrower 5 when we haven't got the ball.
For all the changes we've made, the first 11 won't be radically different from Wembley, so fingers crossed we can carry a bit of that momentum . Would be phenomenal to get any sort of result.
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Villa to get a creditable draw, 2-2
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Just knew they were gonna make it 4-4 right at the end
The comeback was a shame but getting into a 4-1 lead on their big night was good.
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Stuck £30 on us to win, thought well if I can't get a ticket I might aswell invest the money :) and I've a very good feeling about this one!
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Spurs missing a lot of players on Saturday. Walker-Peters and Rose likely to be full backs, and Rose missed pre season to try and get a move away. Son suspended, Alli injured and Eriksen likely in Madrid . Their new guys in typical Levy style are only arriving in last couple of days in transfer window, Dybala will be superb I reckon if they get him.
Good time to play them. If El Ghazi is fit he could have a huge impact on left wing.
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Eriksen won't be away, the Spanish deadline isn't till September. He will play out of his skin against us then fuck off before he plays against Man City, Wolves or any of our other title rivals.
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Nah, we'll see a repeat of this..
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I hate that kit.
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How to celebrate each goal
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Yay! Match threads are back...!
Finding it hard to see anything but a Tottenham win unfortunately but that's the top league for you!
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I hate that kit.
It's gone, let it go...
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0-1 Grealish
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Would fancy us for this if we can get Vardy in before the transfer window shuts.
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personally I am excited just to see how we set up and play against a team that finished 3rd and runners up in the non-champions league...should be a good game
come on the Villa boys
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The Doc
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Looks as though we won't be facing Dybala on Saturday now!
Deal off, Juventus decided not to sell.
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Levy's stinginess cost them getting Grealish in last summer when we were facing liquidation. Hopefully a real sliding doors moment (not the shit movie) in the fortunes of both clubs. Inevitable Grealish will have a huge game on Saturday. I think we can cause a shock, there are always a couple early on in the week.
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If I had to chose one Club that I just dont like its Spurs. Hope we get a win but I'd settle for a draw
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If there's a bet to be had in the Prem this weekend, it's that Grealish is going to score. Whether that's enough for a win I don't know. I think we'll come out confident, in good fettle and make a good game of it, take it too them. If we can avoid silly errors I fancy a score draw. There are players in our team who will be relishing being in the English top flight for the first time. I'd expect us to really test them. If we can be wary of their quality we'll get a result. I'm hoping this will be a good game.
1-1
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Nah, we'll see a repeat of this..
Three absolute worldies there from Big Dion, Benni and Little Alan Wright!
Yeah those shirts were shite - they always bring back those horrible memories of Wembley and that smug gurning cockwomble Dennis Wise.
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Ah how I've missed Lawro's predictions! 2 0 Spurs he's said although he does think we have the best chance of staying up out of the promoted clubs.
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I hate that kit.
It's gone, let it go...
It's literally there. I can see it.
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Listening to the press conference I won't be surprised if Douglas is thrown straight in. Dean Smith has no room for sentiment.
But I reckon he just might be in:
HEATON, GUILBERT, TARGETT, ENGELS, MINGS, DOUGLAS, MCGINN, GREALISH, AEG, JOTA, WESLEY
SUBS: HOURIHANE, NAKAMBA, TREZEGUET, ELMO, HAUSE, STEER, KODJIA
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2-0 win .... and The Villa are back. Grealish and Guilbert with the goals.
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Spurs are a decent side and I reckon we will struggle but we should be fine over the season. Lose 2-0
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Listening to the press conference I won't be surprised if Douglas is thrown straight in. Dean Smith has no room for sentiment.
But I reckon he just might be in:
HEATON, GUILBERT, TARGETT, ENGELS, MINGS, DOUGLAS, MCGINN, GREALISH, AEG, JOTA, WESLEY
SUBS: HOURIHANE, NAKAMBA, TREZEGUET, ELMO, HAUSE, STEER, KODJIA
Alright mate, calm down. No point getting angry before it has even started.
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Thinking of paying AVTV to watch this one.
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Listening to the press conference I won't be surprised if Douglas is thrown straight in. Dean Smith has no room for sentiment.
But I reckon he just might be in:
HEATON, GUILBERT, TARGETT, ENGELS, MINGS, DOUGLAS, MCGINN, GREALISH, AEG, JOTA, WESLEY
SUBS: HOURIHANE, NAKAMBA, TREZEGUET, ELMO, HAUSE, STEER, KODJIA
If anyone is thrown in, it would be Nakamba surely? He's match fit unlike Douglas, played in the ACN and has been with the squad for a couple of weeks longer.
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Thinking of paying AVTV to watch this one.
If it's on Sky doesn't that mean AVTV don't show it? You could get a Now TV subscription for the weekend, I think?
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Aren't the 5.30 games on BT usually?
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2-0 win .... and The Villa are back. Grealish and Guilbert with the goals.
Wouldn’t that be brilliant!
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Aren't the 5.30 games on BT usually?
They have swapped. Saturday lunchtimes on BT, evening games on Sky.
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Not sure if it's been posted anywhere yet, but just in case....
A little something (well, 17mins of absolute belters!) to whet the appetite for our return to the big time tomorrow evening! :)
Enjoy! UTV
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Is it really beginning to grate on anyone else how all these so called 'experts' are predicting how much we are going to struggle and we are in a dog fight to survive?
There is so much trash in this league, I mean seriously how many Bournemouth, Brighton, Burnley, Crystal Palace, Newcastle, Norwich, Sheff Utd, Southampton and Watford players would get in our side? Yet these 'experts' have the likes of Bournemouth and Burnley riding high and us as relegation fodder.
I can really see us around 10th most the season and with a bit of luck going our way even higher.
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Villa to win 3-2. With a VAR awarded penalty in 90(+2) mins.
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A lot of those clubs are well established Premier League clubs though so 10th to me sounds very optimistic. I'm thinking 14th/15th but away from the relegation scrap comfortably.
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Not sure if it's been posted anywhere yet, but just in case....
A little something (well, 17mins of absolute belters!) to whet the appetite for our return to the big time tomorrow evening! :)
Enjoy! UTV
that was fecking marvelous
loved it
and tear at the end with the final goal
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Spurs, like every other team this season, are going to have to play very, very, very well to beat us as we go fearlessly toe-to-toe with them.
They won't manage it. Our new defence will show its mettle. Our front five will live up to all our hopes.
2-0 us. Marker well and truly put down. Glory awaits this team, I'm convinced of it.
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I think an open attacking game but they have more quality and more nous. 4.2 to them and we become everyone's 2nd favourite team this year.
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I'll be bloody disappointed if our new England international goalkeeper and the quality players in front of him let in four first time out. Might as well have kept the bollocks we had before.
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Is it really beginning to grate on anyone else how all these so called 'experts' are predicting how much we are going to struggle and we are in a dog fight to survive?
There is so much trash in this league, I mean seriously how many Bournemouth, Brighton, Burnley, Crystal Palace, Newcastle, Norwich, Sheff Utd, Southampton and Watford players would get in our side? Yet these 'experts' have the likes of Bournemouth and Burnley riding high and us as relegation fodder.
I can really see us around 10th most the season and with a bit of luck going our way even higher.
The three promoted teams will always be amongst the favourites to be relegated. Add to that the play off winners are usually the hot odds on favourites to go straight back down but the pundits actually fancy our chances to survive the drop more than the two reams automatically promoted. We have also made a lot of new signings, some unproven in the Premier League so it is easy for people to throw around the 'do a Fulham' phrase. So personally I don't bother about the pundits opinions. I do think we have a very tough game to start the season with tomorrow and hope we come out of it relatively unscathed. The last thing we need is a heavy defeat, which Spurs are capable of dishing out to most teams on a good day.
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Morning! My first game was at villa park, semi final v leicester. Great english football stadium.
Anyway, welcome back to the first division. Our starting eleven will most likely be 4-2-3-1
Lloris
Walker-Peters Sánchez Vertonghen Rose
Winks Sissoko
Moura Eriksen Lamela
Kane
Dont expect to see Lo Celso/Sessegnon in the squad, NDombele on the bench.
Good luck!
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What the pundits fail to take into account is that we got promoted through the play-offs after giving the rest of the league a half season head start!
If we'd started the season with Smith in charge (plus our January recruits), we'd have gone up as Champions, absolutely pissing that league!
i think we'll surprise a few this season, and it could be a blessing that everyone is underestimating us. ;)
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Morning! My first game was at villa park, semi final v leicester. Great english football stadium.
Anyway, welcome back to the first division. Our starting eleven will most likely be 4-2-3-1
Lloris
Walker-Peters Sánchez Vertonghen Rose
Winks Sissoko
Moura Eriksen Lamela
Kane
Dont expect to see Lo Celso/Sessegnon in the squad, NDombele on the bench.
Good luck!
Hmm - still a very strong looking line up without Son and Alli. Will Rose start ahead of Davies?
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Is it really beginning to grate on anyone else how all these so called 'experts' are predicting how much we are going to struggle and we are in a dog fight to survive?
There is so much trash in this league, I mean seriously how many Bournemouth, Brighton, Burnley, Crystal Palace, Newcastle, Norwich, Sheff Utd, Southampton and Watford players would get in our side? Yet these 'experts' have the likes of Bournemouth and Burnley riding high and us as relegation fodder.
I can really see us around 10th most the season and with a bit of luck going our way even higher.
No. They aren't experts. Just paid opinion makers largely.
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Morning! My first game was at villa park, semi final v leicester. Great english football stadium.
Anyway, welcome back to the first division. Our starting eleven will most likely be 4-2-3-1
Lloris
Walker-Peters Sánchez Vertonghen Rose
Winks Sissoko
Moura Eriksen Lamela
Kane
Dont expect to see Lo Celso/Sessegnon in the squad, NDombele on the bench.
Good luck!
Well that's a very pleasant oppo post. Is Winks really playing that deep? I'd have thought Ndombele came in early enough in the summer to be first XI by now.
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To whet the appetite a bit more
https://twitter.com/johntownley__/status/1159752589224927232?s=12
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Is it really beginning to grate on anyone else how all these so called 'experts' are predicting how much we are going to struggle and we are in a dog fight to survive?
There is so much trash in this league, I mean seriously how many Bournemouth, Brighton, Burnley, Crystal Palace, Newcastle, Norwich, Sheff Utd, Southampton and Watford players would get in our side? Yet these 'experts' have the likes of Bournemouth and Burnley riding high and us as relegation fodder.
I can really see us around 10th most the season and with a bit of luck going our way even higher.
The three promoted teams will always be amongst the favourites to be relegated. Add to that the play off winners are usually the hot odds on favourites to go straight back down but the pundits actually fancy our chances to survive the drop more than the two reams automatically promoted. We have also made a lot of new signings, some unproven in the Premier League so it is easy for people to throw around the 'do a Fulham' phrase. So personally I don't bother about the pundits opinions. I do think we have a very tough game to start the season with tomorrow and hope we come out of it relatively unscathed. The last thing we need is a heavy defeat, which Spurs are capable of dishing out to most teams on a good day.
There are "pundits" and there are "journalists". The latter, despite having their opinion discounted because they have "never played the game", tend to analyse and study situations and articulate this from a dispassionate viewpoint.
The former, sit like peacocks pontificating from a point of view influenced by bigotry, cliché, who they played golf with earlier in the week and as desire to cover up their ignorance by being controversial.
I know who's opinion I value more.
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I suspect that our best team will be;
Heaton
Guilbert
Targett
Mings
Engels
Douglas
McGinn
Grealish
Jota
Trezeguet
Wesley
Subs
Steer
Elmo
Hause
Hourahane
Nakamba
El Ghazi
Kodjia
I think with that bench we're covered in every position.
For tomorrow though i suspect El Ghazi and Hourahane will swap for Trezeguet and Douglas, Douglas maybe not making the bench even and Lansbury or Davis coming in.
1-1 optimistically.
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Davies, Aurier, Foyth, Dier, Wanyama, Dele, Son all miss this game, Lo Celso, Sessegnon, NDombele will need to get up to speed with pochettino's double sessions in training (maybe NDombele will make the bench).
Your players will need to be fit to keep up. In fact, it's one of the biggest differences between first and second division.
Winks will most definitely play the deepest of the five in midfield.
Didn't know about that thing I mentioned in the first post, apologies.
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Morning! My first game was at villa park, semi final v leicester. Great english football stadium.
Anyway, welcome back to the first division. Our starting eleven will most likely be 4-2-3-1
Lloris
Walker-Peters Sánchez Vertonghen Rose
Winks Sissoko
Moura Eriksen Lamela
Kane
Dont expect to see Lo Celso/Sessegnon in the squad, NDombele on the bench.
Good luck!
Well that's a very pleasant oppo post. Is Winks really playing that deep? I'd have thought Ndombele came in early enough in the summer to be first XI by now.
He's won me over by calling it the 'First Division'
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Is it on Sky or BT?
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Is it really beginning to grate on anyone else how all these so called 'experts' are predicting how much we are going to struggle and we are in a dog fight to survive?
There is so much trash in this league, I mean seriously how many Bournemouth, Brighton, Burnley, Crystal Palace, Newcastle, Norwich, Sheff Utd, Southampton and Watford players would get in our side? Yet these 'experts' have the likes of Bournemouth and Burnley riding high and us as relegation fodder.
I can really see us around 10th most the season and with a bit of luck going our way even higher.
Having just seen the transfer-window activity for every Premier League side, I'm now a little moe sanguine about our chances. Almost all the sides have substantially improved their squad, with the possible exception of the Jawdies, Burnley, Palace and Sourhampton.
It's a tough league, and we're relying on relatively inexpensive unknowns to do the business.
The first 4-6 games are critical, to get a confidence-boosting start.
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Davies, Aurier, Foyth, Dier, Wanyama, Dele, Son all miss this game, Lo Celso, Sessegnon, NDombele will need to get up to speed with pochettino's double sessions in training (maybe NDombele will make the bench).
Your players will need to be fit to keep up. In fact, it's one of the biggest differences between first and second division.
Winks will most definitely play the deepest of the five in midfield.
Didn't know about that thing I mentioned in the first post, apologies.
Fitness won't be a problem, we've had a very intense pre-season, and won every match. We don't actually have many "second division" players left from last year, and those that are still here, like McGinn and Grealish, are absolute athletes. I wouldn't worry about McGinn's fitness, he's like the Duracell bunny.
You're obviously a very good team indeed, and will be expecting to win quite easily against a newly promoted side, just don't be surprised if it's not quite as easy as you think. The likes of Mings and Grealish will be wanting to show that they're amongst the best players in the division, and hopefully you'll get to see that tomorrow.
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I was hoping Eriksen wouldn't be playing. 🙁
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Is it on Sky or BT?
SKY.
The BT game is West Ham v Man City Sat lunchtime.
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Morning! My first game was at villa park, semi final v leicester. Great english football stadium.
Anyway, welcome back to the first division. Our starting eleven will most likely be 4-2-3-1
Lloris
Walker-Peters Sánchez Vertonghen Rose
Winks Sissoko
Moura Eriksen Lamela
Kane
Dont expect to see Lo Celso/Sessegnon in the squad, NDombele on the bench.
Good luck!
Keep an eye out for our number 10. Decent player.
In the words of Jim Bowen, "Here's what you could have won !"
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I reckon we will just lose out 2-1, but it'll be a very encouraging performance. Good a feeling Marvellous will start and will be....well marvellous. Really hope Wesley can get off the mark early on in his career with us.
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Morning! My first game was at villa park, semi final v leicester. Great english football stadium.
Anyway, welcome back to the first division. Our starting eleven will most likely be 4-2-3-1
Lloris
Walker-Peters Sánchez Vertonghen Rose
Winks Sissoko
Moura Eriksen Lamela
Kane
Dont expect to see Lo Celso/Sessegnon in the squad, NDombele on the bench.
Good luck!
Keep an eye out for our number 10. Decent player.
In the words of Jim Bowen, "Here's what you could have won !"
‘Not good enough for Spurs’ though
as a landlord in London told me
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Is it on Sky or BT?
SKY.
The BT game is West Ham v Man City Sat lunchtime.
Thanks.
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Even with a few players out and transfer business that was solid, rather than spectacular, that Spurs team still looks decent. The bastards.
I'm partly of a mind just to get this game out the way and view Bournemouth at home as the true start of the season.
But hopefully we'll have a shit hot start and won't have to wish games away as per 2011-2015.
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Even with a few players out and transfer business that was solid, rather than spectacular, that Spurs team still looks decent. The bastards.
I'm partly of a mind just to get this game out the way and view Bournemouth at home as the true start of the season.
But hopefully we'll have a shit hot start and won't have to wish games away as per 2011-2015.
You wouldn't expect anything less from a team that made the champions league final. That said I wouldn't be writing this one off, the first few weeks of the season often throws up a few surprises (like us tearing Arsenal apart at the start of Lamberts second season) and we've got to be one of the most confident sides in the league right now (coming from nowhere to win the play offs and then brushing aside everyone we played in pre-season including a very good RB Leipzig team). It might mean a big fall back to earth but it won't take a lot more than an early half-chance for us to think we can match them and make it a very good game.
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Covering all bases ...
We'll either take a 'welcome back the the premier league' spanking 4-0 or we'll surprise a few and get a score draw
I couldn't call it. Absolutely no idea how it's going to pan out. Pre season has taught us nothing if we're honest.
Here's hoping these players can be as good as well all hope.
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Gonna be really interesting to see how we cope against an excellent prem side. It's a whole different ball game now, no matter how many they have out.
The reality struck me when we played Leipzig where I thought we were second best for a good 60 mins and Jack and McGinn were stifled until the last 30 mins. In fact, but for Heaton we would have been a few down.
That said, we have youth, energy, talent, pace and a manager who seems tactically astute and attack minded. That's not a bad combo in this league. Stay up, give them a season in the prem and we might just surprise a few.
Taking this game as a bit of a free hit.... no expectations and our season won't be defined by our results against the top 6.
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I think our midfield are going to get the run around.
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I think our midfield are going to get the run around.
This is my worry. Especially without a defensive midfielder in there and the midfield being Spurs strong point.
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I'm clinging to the hope of a re-run of 1978.
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Morning! My first game was at villa park, semi final v leicester. Great english football stadium.
Anyway, welcome back to the first division. Our starting eleven will most likely be 4-2-3-1
Lloris
Walker-Peters Sánchez Vertonghen Rose
Winks Sissoko
Moura Eriksen Lamela
Kane
Dont expect to see Lo Celso/Sessegnon in the squad, NDombele on the bench.
Good luck!
That is still a very good side but I am happy Dele Ali and Son are both out. My first Villa game was a 0-3 defeat at home to Manchester United in 1979. My second game and the first time I saw us win was a couple of weeks later when we beat Spurs 1-0. As for your first game I seem to remember Spurs won 2-0 and it was arounfd the time of the Falklands war. I think Ricky Villa was left out of the side and Ossie Ardiles got booed and then went to France for a while.
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Would love the draw, if we are to lose the opener then hopefully keep it a respectable 2-1, pity we couldn't get any real Premiership experience in for precisely this kind of game.
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Win, lose or draw (hopefully win of course!) really looking forward to tomorrow. Great to be back in the Prem and this has provided the opportunity to visit Tottenham’s new stadium for the first time.
This being the case, do we have any suggestions as to where to go for a pre-match drink? Choices were limited at the old White Hart Lane and I suspect even more so now, given that their attendances have virtually doubled.
I am on the train tomorrow so thinking central London for the pre-match pint, but would welcome any suggestions that are nearer to the stadium.
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Win, lose or draw (hopefully win of course!) really looking forward to tomorrow. Great to be back in the Prem and this has provided the opportunity to visit Tottenham’s new stadium for the first time.
This being the case, do we have any suggestions as to where to go for a pre-match drink? Choices were limited at the old White Hart Lane and I suspect even more so now, given that their attendances have virtually doubled.
I am on the train tomorrow so thinking central London for the pre-match pint, but would welcome any suggestions that are nearer to the stadium.
The Irish Centre is (I believe) still open for away fans – that's certainly where we're heading, before getting to the ground a bit earlier for a mooch around. The Elmshurst is the other designated away boozer, but a bit further away.
The other difference from the old ground is that you apparently need to approach it from Worcester Avenue, effectively the opposite direction than the old ground.
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Ive only seen us win twice at WHL before
1979 2-0 Geddis Cowans Spurs might have got 1 i can't remember
and 1990 2-0 Ormandroyd Platt to go top of the league (it didn't last )
on both occasions got caught up with a load of bother on leaving the stadium
hoping to make it a hat trick tomorrow ( but without the trouble )
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I was there the year Mark Walters got both the goals. They had only one Lineker shot on goal all afternoon. We won 2-0 and I hope for something similar tomorrow.
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Really hope Wesley can get off the mark early on in his career with us.
I'll just be happy if he doesn't get sent off and ruin all our pre-season planning. It's something that's been nagging me these last few weeks. He's a bit of a hot head and needs to curb his temper. Scoring a hattrick tomorrow should help cool his nerves.
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I was there the year Mark Walters got both the goals. They had only one Lineker shot on goal all afternoon. We won 2-0 and I hope for something similar tomorrow.
I don't think Walters will score tomorrow.
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Morning! My first game was at villa park, semi final v leicester. Great english football stadium.
Anyway, welcome back to the first division. Our starting eleven will most likely be 4-2-3-1
Lloris
Walker-Peters Sánchez Vertonghen Rose
Winks Sissoko
Moura Eriksen Lamela
Kane
Dont expect to see Lo Celso/Sessegnon in the squad, NDombele on the bench.
Good luck!
That is still a very good side but I am happy Dele Ali and Son are both out. My first Villa game was a 0-3 defeat at home to Manchester United in 1979. My second game and the first time I saw us win was a couple of weeks later when we beat Spurs 1-0. As for your first game I seem to remember Spurs won 2-0 and it was arounfd the time of the Falklands war. I think Ricky Villa was left out of the side and Ossie Ardiles got booed and then went to France for a while.
Good memory. As a young boy seeing (hearing) the hatred aimed at ardiles was such a shock. My family are all leicester fans (yeap, copped it shed loads the other year lol). I went with spurs because, and I quote, 'they didn't put snow on it'.
One of the best games I've ever seen was against villa, our 125 year anniversary. What a game!
All the best!
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Is it really beginning to grate on anyone else how all these so called 'experts' are predicting how much we are going to struggle and we are in a dog fight to survive?
There is so much trash in this league, I mean seriously how many Bournemouth, Brighton, Burnley, Crystal Palace, Newcastle, Norwich, Sheff Utd, Southampton and Watford players would get in our side? Yet these 'experts' have the likes of Bournemouth and Burnley riding high and us as relegation fodder.
I can really see us around 10th most the season and with a bit of luck going our way even higher.
The bookies have us sixth favourites to go down which is reasonable enough I think. Palace and Newcastle look particularly vulnerable on paper. Those two and Norwich to go for me. Keep Grealish and McGinn fit and we should be comfortably mid table.
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enjoying everything about the Villa at the moment, Manger, owners and fans optimism. However lets be realistic here and a point would be amazing.
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A point or a sneaky one goal win would set the tone nicely for the season. Going to be a real tough game for us....
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Is it really beginning to grate on anyone else how all these so called 'experts' are predicting how much we are going to struggle and we are in a dog fight to survive?
There is so much trash in this league, I mean seriously how many Bournemouth, Brighton, Burnley, Crystal Palace, Newcastle, Norwich, Sheff Utd, Southampton and Watford players would get in our side? Yet these 'experts' have the likes of Bournemouth and Burnley riding high and us as relegation fodder.
I can really see us around 10th most the season and with a bit of luck going our way even higher.
Most I've seen have us in average position of 14th-15th which is fair enough, I've predicted 14th. Plenty have Burnley below us.
Peter Crouch today predicted we'd finish 18th, Burnley 11th....
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Is it really beginning to grate on anyone else how all these so called 'experts' are predicting how much we are going to struggle and we are in a dog fight to survive?
There is so much trash in this league, I mean seriously how many Bournemouth, Brighton, Burnley, Crystal Palace, Newcastle, Norwich, Sheff Utd, Southampton and Watford players would get in our side? Yet these 'experts' have the likes of Bournemouth and Burnley riding high and us as relegation fodder.
I can really see us around 10th most the season and with a bit of luck going our way even higher.
Most I've seen have us in average position of 14th-15th which is fair enough, I've predicted 14th. Plenty have Burnley below us.
Peter Crouch today predicted we'd finish 18th, Burnley 11th....
He also said we've stay up.
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Davies, Aurier, Foyth, Dier, Wanyama, Dele, Son all miss this game, Lo Celso, Sessegnon, NDombele will need to get up to speed with pochettino's double sessions in training (maybe NDombele will make the bench).
Your players will need to be fit to keep up. In fact, it's one of the biggest differences between first and second division.
Winks will most definitely play the deepest of the five in midfield.
Didn't know about that thing I mentioned in the first post, apologies.
Would be very surprised if Ndombele dosen't start, I watched you playing Real Madrid in Audi Cup and thought he was your best player and big improvement on Sissoko.
I assume Eriksen is leaving in next few weeks so not sure he'll start although doubt Lo Celso will be thrown in when he's just arrived in the country.
Spurs have arguably strongest midifeld options outside top 2 now, lots of depth and quality.
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Is it really beginning to grate on anyone else how all these so called 'experts' are predicting how much we are going to struggle and we are in a dog fight to survive?
There is so much trash in this league, I mean seriously how many Bournemouth, Brighton, Burnley, Crystal Palace, Newcastle, Norwich, Sheff Utd, Southampton and Watford players would get in our side? Yet these 'experts' have the likes of Bournemouth and Burnley riding high and us as relegation fodder.
I can really see us around 10th most the season and with a bit of luck going our way even higher.
Most I've seen have us in average position of 14th-15th which is fair enough, I've predicted 14th. Plenty have Burnley below us.
Peter Crouch today predicted we'd finish 18th, Burnley 11th....
He also said we've stay up.
18th.
https://www.givemesport.com/1496017-peter-crouch-predicts-where-each-premier-league-side-will-finish-in-201920-season
Has Norwich finishing 14th.
The i preview pull out today had us in 14th. Brighton, Sheffield united and Norwich relegated. Palace in 17th.
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Is it really beginning to grate on anyone else how all these so called 'experts' are predicting how much we are going to struggle and we are in a dog fight to survive?
There is so much trash in this league, I mean seriously how many Bournemouth, Brighton, Burnley, Crystal Palace, Newcastle, Norwich, Sheff Utd, Southampton and Watford players would get in our side? Yet these 'experts' have the likes of Bournemouth and Burnley riding high and us as relegation fodder.
I can really see us around 10th most the season and with a bit of luck going our way even higher.
Most I've seen have us in average position of 14th-15th which is fair enough, I've predicted 14th. Plenty have Burnley below us.
Peter Crouch today predicted we'd finish 18th, Burnley 11th....
He also said we've stay up.
18th.
https://www.givemesport.com/1496017-peter-crouch-predicts-where-each-premier-league-side-will-finish-in-201920-season
Has Norwich finishing 14th.
The i preview pull out today had us in 14th. Brighton, Sheffield united and Norwich relegated. Palace in 17th.
In the Mail he said we would avoid relegation and had us finishing eighteenth.
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Altitude sickness.
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Is it really beginning to grate on anyone else how all these so called 'experts' are predicting how much we are going to struggle and we are in a dog fight to survive?
There is so much trash in this league, I mean seriously how many Bournemouth, Brighton, Burnley, Crystal Palace, Newcastle, Norwich, Sheff Utd, Southampton and Watford players would get in our side? Yet these 'experts' have the likes of Bournemouth and Burnley riding high and us as relegation fodder.
I can really see us around 10th most the season and with a bit of luck going our way even higher.
Most I've seen have us in average position of 14th-15th which is fair enough, I've predicted 14th. Plenty have Burnley below us.
Peter Crouch today predicted we'd finish 18th, Burnley 11th....
He also said we've stay up.
18th.
https://www.givemesport.com/1496017-peter-crouch-predicts-where-each-premier-league-side-will-finish-in-201920-season
Has Norwich finishing 14th.
The i preview pull out today had us in 14th. Brighton, Sheffield united and Norwich relegated. Palace in 17th.
In the Mail he said we would avoid relegation and had us finishing eighteenth.
Oh I see. Well Crouchy is getting the hang of this pundit job nicely, covering all bases.
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We've already moved up one place...
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Really hope Wesley can get off the mark early on in his career with us.
I'll just be happy if he doesn't get sent off and ruin all our pre-season planning. It's something that's been nagging me these last few weeks. He's a bit of a hot head and needs to curb his temper. Scoring a hattrick tomorrow should help cool his nerves.
What makes you think Wes has anger issues? I’ve watched all the preseason games and that thought has never crossed my mind tbh. I remember Jack having a word with him in one of the games, but if it’s a thing then hopefully this will have been picked up by Dean and the staff.
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Only been there once- the Bosnich game. Having been used to VP, WHL seemed small. Also very difficult to get to, even living in London at the time. My perception of spurs was that the match at VP always seemed a banker, a bit like Everton. I’d be interested to see the stats from the last 40 or so years, to see how accurate or not that was.
Anyway things are obviously different now, they’ve just lost a champions league final and we’ve just won at Wembley, so things are a bit more even now 😁
The new stadium looks fantastic and I can see why some on here are clamouring for a new ground. For me though, Villa Park was streets ahead of WHL. Let them have the new ground. I’d be very happy if we managed a similar result to the first match at the Emirates. Barry header and Jeffers (?) late equaliser to spare their blushes!
Come on You Lions!!
Bit of an afterthought... we talk about how our inferior local rivals are obsessed with us. I was talking to a Spurs supporter a few weeks back about this match and I mentioned the Emirates match and couldn’t recall who got the equaliser for Arsenal. The fella didn’t miss a beat, naming Jeffers. I hope it was Jeffers, as I’ll look a dick if it wasn’t!!
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Only been there once- the Bosnich game. Having been used to VP, WHL seemed small. Also very difficult to get to, even living in London at the time. My perception of spurs was that the match at VP always seemed a banker, a bit like Everton. I’d be interested to see the stats from the last 40 or so years, to see how accurate or not that was.
Anyway things are obviously different now, they’ve just lost a champions league final and we’ve just won at Wembley, so things are a bit more even now 😁
The new stadium looks fantastic and I can see why some on here are clamouring for a new ground. For me though, Villa Park was streets ahead of WHL. Let them have the new ground. I’d be very happy if we managed a similar result to the first match at the Emirates. Barry header and Jeffers (?) late equaliser to spare their blushes!
Come on You Lions!!
Bit of an afterthought... we talk about how our inferior local rivals are obsessed with us. I was talking to a Spurs supporter a few weeks back about this match and I mentioned the Emirates match and couldn’t recall who got the equaliser for Arsenal. The fella didn’t miss a beat, naming Jeffers. I hope it was Jeffers, as I’ll look a dick if it wasn’t!!
I think it was Gilberto Silva, but a similar player to Jeffers in many ways! Haha.
It was definitely Mellberg that got our goal, however.
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Shit! My memory really is that bad eh? Could’ve sworn it was GB.
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Shit! My memory really is that bad eh? Could’ve sworn it was GB.
It happens to us all, mate! I remember this game quite well as it was my 24th birthday, and we went loopy in the away end!
Here are the highlights.
https://youtu.be/2gVY5FK1_80
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Enjoy your day, fellow Villans.
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Really hope Wesley can get off the mark early on in his career with us.
I'll just be happy if he doesn't get sent off and ruin all our pre-season planning. It's something that's been nagging me these last few weeks. He's a bit of a hot head and needs to curb his temper. Scoring a hattrick tomorrow should help cool his nerves.
What makes you think Wes has anger issues? I’ve watched all the preseason games and that thought has never crossed my mind tbh. I remember Jack having a word with him in one of the games, but if it’s a thing then hopefully this will have been picked up by Dean and the staff.
Bruges apparently used to tape his hands uo to remind him to keep calm
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Come on Villa boys, let's do these! Don't fear them or give them too much respect because after all what have they won in recent memory? Their shiny new stadium is obviously their "trophy" to themselves. Besides anything would have been an upgrade on white fart lane. We rebuffed them over Grealish when we were at our lowest and sent them packing as though they were insignificant. Last season they lost 13 games and still finished 4th! They're certainly not invincible, so come on Villa boys let's do them! UTV!
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3-1 defeat but our season and survival won't be decided on these kind of games. Our season starts next week.
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First time I went to WHL was in March 1976, the day after my 18th birthday. We lost 5-2, and I remember being chased around their terracing.
Also went in 1982 for an FA Cup game. We lost 1-0. A fair bit of trouble outside, afterwards.
Last time I went there was for the 4-4 game (can't believe that was 12 years' ago!).
I'm going today, so blame me if we lose!
They have a very good record against us. Is all.
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Their good record against us is fairly recent. As I remember, for the first twenty years or so of my following Villa, they never won at Villa Park, and we won at their hovel all the time.
Seem to remember they finally broke their VP curse with a Sheringham goal which was miles offside. Where's VAR when you need it?
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Think in the 60s our record against them was similar to our record against Manure over the last 30 years.
Felt like we always beat them home and away in the 90s though.
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'Morning each!
Well then, I'll be absolutely delighted if our new-look peeps can manage to thwart those cocky barstewards today & grab a point (or three). My bonce tells me that Spurts should see us off comfortably, however there's always a surprise or two at the start of a new season ain't there? Hopefully Deano will ensure that the lads play on the front foot and look to give the opposition problems throughout. I've no doubt Super Tom will be in for a busy afternoon, but if we can maintain a defensive resoluteness throughout & play with confidence further up the park - then opportunities will shirley come. Fingers crossed eh? UTV
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We'll give a good account of ourselves trying to play neat football, but think we'll come up just short. 2-1 to Spurs unfortunately.
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I've been promised a case of champagne if we win 1-3.
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Safe trip in this awful weather today villains , let’s make a decent account of ourselves. I really can’t picture Deano stood on sidelines looking as dumbfounded as Farke was last night
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I can't remember the last time I felt like this. It's an odd mix of eager anticipation of unwrapping the present, and paralysing dread that it won't be what I asked Father Christmas for. But I have faith. I believe in them. They'll justify it, I'm certain. Let's show the world an Aston Villa they've not seen for a decade. COYVB. UTV.
Oh yeah, and jealous af of all yous going.
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Like most opening games of the season, you can never tell which way it is going to go (apart from last night). I'd be ecstatic with the three points, happy with the draw and as long as it's not a hammering, not overly disappointed if we lost.
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A credible performance would be nice. Not expecting a positive result, that’s a huge ask.
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I've just seen the Villa chaplain (@astonvicar) tweet a message of encouragement for the season.
I didn't know we had a chaplain. What do they do?
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I've just seen the Villa chaplain (@astonvicar) tweet a message of encouragement for the season.
I didn't know we had a chaplain. What do they do?
God's work, Darren.
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I've just seen the Villa chaplain (@astonvicar) tweet a message of encouragement for the season.
I didn't know we had a chaplain. What do they do?
God's work, Darren.
God is such a lazy bastard. The odd miracle every so never.
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I've just seen the Villa chaplain (@astonvicar) tweet a message of encouragement for the season.
I didn't know we had a chaplain. What do they do?
We needed one once Tony Butler retired .
Get on your knees ......
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This is it, folks. Sounds like we're all ready to hold on tight for the ride...
My prayer mat's all ready!
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I've just seen the Villa chaplain (@astonvicar) tweet a message of encouragement for the season.
I didn't know we had a chaplain. What do they do?
I’ve heard he’s a right Charlie
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Really hope Wesley can get off the mark early on in his career with us.
Bruges apparently used to tape his hands uo to remind him to keep calm
Are you sure his hands were not taped up to preserve his eyesight.
😜
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Let’s do it villa
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Good luck lads, hope you have a great day out!
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I was taking the piss on Facebook about various things a moment ago and apparently not only is Soccer AM still a thing but Tom Knibb is one of the Villa fans on there. Much as I hate that programme I might find a rerun of it.
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Heaton
Guilbert
Mings
Engels
Targett
McGinn
Hourihane
Jota
Grealish
El Ghazi
Wesley
SUBS:
Steer, Elmohamady, Hause, Konsa, Nakamba, Trezeguet, Kodjia
My prediction.
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Like most opening games of the season, you can never tell which way it is going to go (apart from last night). I'd be ecstatic with the three points, happy with the draw and as long as it's not a hammering, not overly disappointed if we lost.
There are going to be handful of games where you just know it’s going to be bloody hard. Liverpool, Man City and Sours, home or away, it doesn’t matter, they are the comfortable top 3 in the league. Anything from these games is a massive plus. After that I don’t see why we cannot compete in almost every case on an even footing, or very close to it. Today is about tactics, confidence, chemistry and figuring out just who were are and what we might become. I agree, we might lose, but if we do, it’s what was the storyline created in our defeat? The Villa we remember from our last PL campaign lost before we kicked off. It won’t be at all the case this season.
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I've just seen the Villa chaplain (@astonvicar) tweet a message of encouragement for the season.
I didn't know we had a chaplain. What do they do?
McGrath moves in mysterious ways
His wonders to perform
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On the train to London with no.1 daughter en route to Tottingham.
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Would anybody know what park and ride tube station is best? Concerned where I park may have restrictions on it now.
Oh the M6...I have not fucking missed you.
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I've just seen the Villa chaplain (@astonvicar) tweet a message of encouragement for the season.
I didn't know we had a chaplain. What do they do?
We needed one once Tony Butler retired .
Get on your knees ......
Get on your knees was what I said to Mrs Manic last night.
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My prediction is that we will lose by two goals or less.
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First time I went to WHL was in March 1976, the day after my 18th birthday. We lost 5-2, and I remember being chased around their terracing.
Also went in 1982 for an FA Cup game. We lost 1-0. A fair bit of trouble outside, afterwards.
Last time I went there was for the 4-4 game (can't believe that was 12 years' ago!).
I'm going today, so blame me if we lose!
They have a very good record against us. Is all.
We’ve beaten them once in 17
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If anyone wants to point me at a meandering small watercourse I can fire up on the phone or tablet whilst cooking tea later then that would be appreciated.
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Seeing the Liverpool and City results I suddenly feel quite pessimistic. I have felt like that at all before a match in any of the last three years.
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Seeing the Liverpool and City results I suddenly feel quite pessimistic. I have felt like that at all before a match in any of the last three years.
Don't despair. Spurs aren't as good as Liverpool or Man City.
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SKY have just interviewed a couple of legends on the Tottenham pitch. Rafael Van Der Vaart of Spurs and Villa's Nigel Reo Coker.
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Really looking forward to this ,and dreading it the same time come on you lions
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SKY have just interviewed a couple of legends on the Tottenham pitch. Rafael Van Der Vaart of Spurs and Villa's Nigel Reo Coker.
Nige looked like he was reading that off an autocue. All the enthusiasm of a turtle with the shits.
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Have heard a suggestion Grealish is missing due to illness. Hopefully nonsense.
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I expect us to lose this evening as Spurs are the third best team in the League and we have just stepped up and lot of new players to gel. However I am hoping to see us fight and some early shoots of a team in the making. COME ON VILLA.
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I think Villa will be...
Allez Allez Allez
tl;dr
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Have heard a suggestion Grealish is missing due to illness. Hopefully nonsense.
Starting and captain
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Good stuff. 😁