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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Bad English on May 05, 2019, 02:32:23 PM
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Oh well. The playoffs beckon. UTV!
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A narrow defeat. Good to rest the 4 top players for the playoffs.
Whatever happens a big job in the summer on that performance for me.
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A narrow defeat. Good to rest the 4 top players for the playoffs.
Whatever happens a big job in the summer on that performance for me.
On that performance with 6 players out you're judging the summer activity on that one match?
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Job done. No players sent off, injured or spontaneously combusted. Would have been nice to get a point or three but this side just didn't quite have enough against the champions.
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Ho-hum. Rather the unbeaten run ended today than over the course of the next three games.
The right decision to rest the players we did and some of the other squad members to get some game time in their legs should they be needed in the next couple of weeks.
I trust in Deano to do rather more than summon the ghost of Lambert's "we go again". Still confident that we're going to go up.
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A narrow defeat. Good to rest the 4 top players for the playoffs.
Whatever happens a big job in the summer on that performance for me.
Fucking hell, a team containing 4 regulars lose a tight game against the title winners.
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Our better players rested, game time for fringe players who may be needed at some point in the play offs.
Shame we couldn't keep our unbeaten run going but looking forward to the play offs with Leeds and Albion hitting poor form.
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A narrow defeat. Good to rest the 4 top players for the playoffs.
Whatever happens a big job in the summer on that performance for me.
On that performance with 6 players out you're judging the summer activity on that one match?
Well yes. I think if we’re promoted the 3 in midfield wouldn’t be in a premiership squad or if we’re still in this league aren’t good enough to get us promoted. Whelan a year older, Hourihane just not good enough and Lansbury we’ve not seen enough off.
Similar could be said of the defence and forwards.
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I'm really looking forward to saying tararabit to Leeds and West Barcelona Olbyiun when we funeral the fuckers.
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The wingers aren't up to much either. I wouldn't want Adomah or Green anywhere near a PL squad.
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A narrow defeat. Good to rest the 4 top players for the playoffs.
Whatever happens a big job in the summer on that performance for me.
On that performance with 6 players out you're judging the summer activity on that one match?
Well yes. I think if we’re promoted the 3 in midfield wouldn’t be in a premiership squad or if we’re still in this league aren’t good enough to get us promoted. Whelan a year older, Hourihane just not good enough and Lansbury we’ve not seen enough off.
Similar could be said of the defence and forwards.
It's called the Premier League. Hourihane has been good enough in with Jack and John, how many goals and assists from Conor this season? They way you phrase it sounds like we played shit against a shit team.
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I'm hearing that the presentation of the trophy is delayed while John Terry tries to find a Norwich kit that fits him.
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The wingers aren't up to much either. I wouldn't want Adomah or Green anywhere near a PL squad.
One step at a time, we're in the championship as of now.
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I'm hearing that the presentation of the trophy is delayed while John Terry tries to find a Norwich kit that fits him.
nice
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Absolute class by villa squad and coaches giving guard of honour to Norwich coming out for trophy presentation
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Classy from Villa, staying out to applaud Norwich. Lots of Villa fans still in the ground. I hope to fuck our fans are rewarded for their loyalty to Villa by us going up this season. I've never seen fans who deserve so much, who have had delivered to them so little , over the last 8 years or so. Get the job done Dean, please.
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Job done. Core of team rested for the games that matter, and onto the lottery of the playoffs we go.
If you'd said to me during the furore at the start of the season that we'd finish 5th and have sewn up a playoffs spot with weeks to spare, I'd have snapped your hand off. A huge well done to the new owners, Deano and the squad.
Let's not let it go to waste - Let's fuck the fuckers and get back to where we belong!
UTV
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We had more than enough chances to get something from this match but we were clinically poor and sidetracked. Norwich played worse than us overall but they took theirs and we lost.
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A narrow defeat. Good to rest the 4 top players for the playoffs.
Whatever happens a big job in the summer on that performance for me.
On that performance with 6 players out you're judging the summer activity on that one match?
Well yes. I think if we’re promoted the 3 in midfield wouldn’t be in a premiership squad or if we’re still in this league aren’t good enough to get us promoted. Whelan a year older, Hourihane just not good enough and Lansbury we’ve not seen enough off.
Similar could be said of the defence and forwards.
It's called the Premier League. Hourihane has been good enough in with Jack and John, how many goals and assists from Conor this season? They way you phrase it sounds like we played shit against a shit team.
I’m not a Hourihane fan to be fair; his goals and assists are good but with all the free kicks we get they should be.
I agree it’s the Premier League and can see Norwich doing about as well as Cardiff next year.
Overall I thought we did ok today but given players coming should be pushing for inclusion in the play off thought we were flat for large parts of the game and lacked a cutting edge.
Don’t mean to sound to downbeat as very much think we’re going in the right direction!
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I'm going for a Villa Derby final
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Classy from Villa, staying out to applaud Norwich. Lots of Villa fans still in the ground.
It's a little thing, but it pleases me.
If their last game was against LEeds, there'd probably be bottles of piss launched from the stands or something.
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I'm going for a Villa Derby final
If that's the case (and we obviously need to get past the Albion first), they'll be a different proposition to the side we beat 7-0 on aggregate this season. Might have to settle for 2-0.
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A narrow defeat. Good to rest the 4 top players for the playoffs.
Whatever happens a big job in the summer on that performance for me.
On that performance with 6 players out you're judging the summer activity on that one match?
Well yes. I think if we’re promoted the 3 in midfield wouldn’t be in a premiership squad or if we’re still in this league aren’t good enough to get us promoted. Whelan a year older, Hourihane just not good enough and Lansbury we’ve not seen enough off.
Similar could be said of the defence and forwards.
It's called the Premier League. Hourihane has been good enough in with Jack and John, how many goals and assists from Conor this season? They way you phrase it sounds like we played shit against a shit team.
I’m not a Hourihane fan to be fair; his goals and assists are good but with all the free kicks we get they should be.
I agree it’s the Premier League and can see Norwich doing about as well as Cardiff next year.
Overall I thought we did ok today but given players coming should be pushing for inclusion in the play off thought we were flat for large parts of the game and lacked a cutting edge.
Don’t mean to sound to downbeat as very much think we’re going in the right direction!
I couldn't stand Hourihane, Whelan or Taylor but I have to give credit where it's due. All 3 might not be the best and there's better out there but all 3 have had key games for us where they have either won us 3 pts or saved us 3 and I think Smith's coaching and set up have improved them from when they first joined us.
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Game 13 in an unbeaten run, oh well, as some mumbling, useless, former manager once said, we go again.
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I’m a bit more disappointed about losing today than I expected.
I thought our makeshift team dominated the champions for large periods of the game and we carved out loads of chances again, so to lose to a poor goal is quite frustrating.
We really must be more clinical in front of goal.
The whole team acquitted themselves well other than Lansbury who worked hard but didn’t influence the game.
Keinan proved again he is going to be a very good player, he just needs to add goals.
Oh and Barney. I think he’s done. The fact he didn’t start today and his body language suggests to me that he’ll be off soon.
And so, onto the big one.
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Really impressed with large portions of today. Norwich were clinical as they have been all season. Fair play
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Nothing game really.
Started slowly and could have been two down inside 10 minutes, but after that and in the 2nd half in particular I thought we dominated them.
A full strength Villa would have murdered them, but it was wise to rest players as Leeds and the Albion have.
Lansbury a weak link, but Thor was even worse. You can't let players run at you like that.
Oh well. Not overly concerned. The focus is clearly on the Play Offs.
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BB awful today. Lansbury good. Green/Adomah not so good. Need AEG back. Good job his red was rescinded. Good to see Hutton on the pitch and he played his usual game but his time at the club is almost up. A remarkable run him considering how average he is.
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We really must be more clinical in front of goal.
Only the 82 goals scored.
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I’m sorry, but guards of honour and shit like that for another team on our pitch really pisses me off. I could just about stand for a terse hand shake and a brisk nod of the head.
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Nothing game really.
Started slowly and could have been two down inside 10 minutes, but after that and in the 2nd half in particular I thought we dominated them.
A full strength Villa would have murdered them, but it was wise to rest players as Leeds and the Albion have.
Lansbury a weak link, but Thor was even worse. You can't let players run at you like that.
Oh well. Not overly concerned. The focus is clearly on the Play Offs.
Lansbury I thought was excellent
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We really must be more clinical in front of goal.
Only the 82 goals scored.
Agreed.
And how many missed?
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I’m sorry, but guards of honour and shit like that for another team on our pitch really pisses me off. I could just about stand for a terse hand shake and a brisk nod of the head.
I'm the same, handshakers and hugs in the tunnel can do one.
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We really must be more clinical in front of goal.
Only the 82 goals scored.
Agreed.
And how many missed?
Really!?
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Nothing game really.
Started slowly and could have been two down inside 10 minutes, but after that and in the 2nd half in particular I thought we dominated them.
A full strength Villa would have murdered them, but it was wise to rest players as Leeds and the Albion have.
Lansbury a weak link, but Thor was even worse. You can't let players run at you like that.
Oh well. Not overly concerned. The focus is clearly on the Play Offs.
Lansbury I thought was excellent
I didn't think he was involved at all. He disappeared from the game and seems slower than Whelan.
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Nothing game really.
Started slowly and could have been two down inside 10 minutes, but after that and in the 2nd half in particular I thought we dominated them.
A full strength Villa would have murdered them, but it was wise to rest players as Leeds and the Albion have.
Lansbury a weak link, but Thor was even worse. You can't let players run at you like that.
Oh well. Not overly concerned. The focus is clearly on the Play Offs.
Lansbury I thought was excellent
I didn't think he was involved at all. He disappeared from the game and seems slower than Whelan.
Thought he put a shift in and deserves plaudits
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Job done. No players sent off, injured or spontaneously combusted. Would have been nice to get a point or three but this side just didn't quite have enough against the champions.
Almost a second string team! Our full eleven would've thrashed them today! Norwich will be in Cardiff's current position this time next year!
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Irrelevant it might have been. However, our record against the top four has been absolutely crap.
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Good game for the neutral. Take our chances and we win that, and if we'd played all our rested players I think we'd have won quite easily - certainly with Jack and SJM in the middle they wouldn't have been able to play as wide as they did. Decent move for their first goal, parting of the seas for their second. Didn't learn much about the players today except that Keinan Davis is going to be a real handful for anyone. Didn't want to see my team provide a 'guard of honour' for anyone so left on the final whistle and got home in record time. Roll on Saturday - after today's results I think Albion are there for the taking.
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We really must be more clinical in front of goal.
Only the 82 goals scored.
Agreed.
And how many missed?
Really!?
Yes.
The manager agrees.
https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1125044110967152640?s=21
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We really must be more clinical in front of goal.
Only the 82 goals scored.
Agreed.
And how many missed?
Really!?
Yes.
The manager agrees.
https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1125044110967152640?s=21
That's on todays game minus our best attcking threats. Have Kod, Green or Adomah ever been clinical. 82 goals is pretty clinical overall for me...but, if you're saying about being clinical today, then well yeah, but wasn't going to happen with that team.
So I win yeah?
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I agree with andyh about us being wasteful. I do worry that it will bite up on the arse.
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just back - somehow I feel a bot deflated, even though it was a half strength side we created a lot of chances and once again failed to score more than one. We need everyone back and playing to the top of their game to win through against WBA.
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So 12;30 sat, has ko time been confirmed for tues yet ?
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I agree with andyh about us being wasteful. I do worry that it will bite up on the arse.
Before the match today were you thinking, "I'm worried about us in the play offs, all these chances we waste"? I bet a trillion dollars you didn't.
So agree with me and we'll call it quits.
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So 12;30 sat, has ko time been confirmed for tues yet ?
8:00pm
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A narrow defeat. Good to rest the 4 top players for the playoffs.
Whatever happens a big job in the summer on that performance for me.
Ridiculous statement
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Absolute class by villa squad and coaches giving guard of honour to Norwich coming out for trophy presentation
And by us supporters. A fair few of us stayed behind to applaud them when they lifted the trophy.
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Highlights (https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11712263/aston-villa-1-2-norwich)
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Met a couple of couple of decent Norwich fans in the Witton Arms after the game. They said someone let off flares before the game in there ? Talking about when we won the league, they asked me if I was in my twenties then , I was 13 ! I was a bit precious to say the least !
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So many starters out today, thought we did pretty well. Gave the Champions a good game and derserved a draw IMO.
Now it's time to put that bitter little club in its place next Saturday.
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A narrow defeat. Good to rest the 4 top players for the playoffs.
Whatever happens a big job in the summer on that performance for me.
Fucking hell, a team containing 4 regulars lose a tight game against the title winners.
No agreed it was a tight game. And the Championship champions I expect to struggle like Cardiff this season.
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A narrow defeat. Good to rest the 4 top players for the playoffs.
Whatever happens a big job in the summer on that performance for me.
On that performance with 6 players out you're judging the summer activity on that one match?
Well yes. I think if we’re promoted the 3 in midfield wouldn’t be in a premiership squad or if we’re still in this league aren’t good enough to get us promoted. Whelan a year older, Hourihane just not good enough and Lansbury we’ve not seen enough off.
Similar could be said of the defence and forwards.
It's called the Premier League. Hourihane has been good enough in with Jack and John, how many goals and assists from Conor this season? They way you phrase it sounds like we played shit against a shit team.
I’m not a Hourihane fan to be fair; his goals and assists are good but with all the free kicks we get they should be.
I agree it’s the Premier League and can see Norwich doing about as well as Cardiff next year.
Overall I thought we did ok today but given players coming should be pushing for inclusion in the play off thought we were flat for large parts of the game and lacked a cutting edge.
Don’t mean to sound to downbeat as very much think we’re going in the right direction!
I couldn't stand Hourihane, Whelan or Taylor but I have to give credit where it's due. All 3 might not be the best and there's better out there but all 3 have had key games for us where they have either won us 3 pts or saved us 3 and I think Smith's coaching and set up have improved them from when they first joined us.
100% agree on all 3 of those players.
Which is why I think this summer will be a huge overhaul in the playing squad regardless of what happens in the next 2/3 games.
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Considering the players rested I thought we played reasonably well especially in the second half. Thought Lansbury did alright, considering the amount of games he's played this season.
Farewell to the Scottish Cafu, we will never forget that goal!
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Considering the players rested I thought we played reasonably well especially in the second half. Thought Lansbury did alright, considering the amount of games he's played this season.
Farewell to the Scottish Cafu, we will never forget that goal!
Same for me. Thought the overall team performance was pretty good and Hutton deserved to lead the team out.
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BB awful today. Lansbury good. Green/Adomah not so good. Need AEG back. Good job his red was rescinded. Good to see Hutton on the pitch and he played his usual game but his time at the club is almost up. A remarkable run him considering how average he is.
BB awful? Hard to judge someone when they only came on in the 80th minute.
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BB awful today. Lansbury good. Green/Adomah not so good. Need AEG back. Good job his red was rescinded. Good to see Hutton on the pitch and he played his usual game but his time at the club is almost up. A remarkable run him considering how average he is.
You're Footyskillz aren't you?
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Pretty happy with that.
Bare in mind who we were missing and how desperate some of our performances were in that new year to Feb period and I thought many of our fringe players played well today against what at this level is a very good team.
Hutton hasn't played since end of Feb (it showed in the first half), Hause has been out for 6 weeks and Lansbury who I thought showed great vision at times has played about 5 times in last year it seems.
What I wanted today was an entertaining game, no injuries and no silly red cards. This time last year Fulham were being turned over by SHA so losing a dead rubber on the last day means nothing.
Interested to see how we use Kodjia in the play offs. Wildcard off the bench is probably what most expect but personally I'd play him in the front three, gives us more scoring options and I thought Green lacks a bit of belief in the final third even though he got into some good positions today.
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One thing I was surprised btw was Whelan lasting 90 minutes. Had a good season but he was really flagging last 10 minutes and couldn't keep up when Norwich broke for the late winner.
Would've thought he'd been obvious to take off with 20 minutes left. Don't really see him starting both games given the quick turnaround in the play offs.
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Kodjia's boy looked worth keeping tabs on.
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Did James Chester's misses give birth at the final whistle....his boy/girl looks 10 minutes old.
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The bloke who sits in row 28 seat 250ish in the family area needs to find something else to do with his time. Considering it was a B team playing a relatively unimportant match and there were no real stand out bad decisions or poor performances, he moaned and whined at full volume about the ref, the players, the linos for 90 odd minutes as if they had ritually killed his first born. Didn't even have the good grace to fuck off until the final whistle. On the plus side, Tammy Abraham was fantastic, signed loads of stuff including my son's shirt and smiled from start to finish. Jack was a bit less friendly and, ominously, didn't say anything when I begged him to stay. Did sign my boy's shirt though. The stewards were a miserable bunch and actually told Jack to stop signing things when there were only about 4 kids left waiting. Fortunately, he ignored them.
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Not taking any sides, but I imagine that’s a tough thing to be begged to stay at the club he loves even if we fail again, when he’s been transparent already that this is the last chance.
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Oh, as for the match, first 10 mins I thought we were going to get hammered then we got a grip and some of our players did their stuff and a few showed why they don't normally get into the first team. I agree we aren't clinical in front of goal despite having scored so many. A draw, which we nearly achieved, would have been a reasonable result with Mings, Jack, McGinn, Mings and El Ghazi missing.
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Not taking any sides, but I imagine that’s a tough thing to be begged to stay at the club he loves even if we fail again, when he’s been transparent already that this is the last chance.
It was tongue in cheek. He wasn't as friendly as Tammy, but Tammy was super smiley.
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Not taking any sides, but I imagine that’s a tough thing to be begged to stay at the club he loves even if we fail again, when he’s been transparent already that this is the last chance.
It was tongue in cheek. He wasn't as friendly as Tammy, but Tammy was super smiley.
Was Jack doing Blue-Steel?
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Not taking any sides, but I imagine that’s a tough thing to be begged to stay at the club he loves even if we fail again, when he’s been transparent already that this is the last chance.
It was tongue in cheek. He wasn't as friendly as Tammy, but Tammy was super smiley.
Was Jack doing Blue-Steel?
I've just had to look that up. Yes, that was about right. He tutted when I didn't hold my daughter's shirt tight enough for him to sign... I actually don't think he even heard the mournful middle aged man saying 'don't go, Jack.'
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Not taking any sides, but I imagine that’s a tough thing to be begged to stay at the club he loves even if we fail again, when he’s been transparent already that this is the last chance.
It was tongue in cheek. He wasn't as friendly as Tammy, but Tammy was super smiley.
Was Jack doing Blue-Steel?
I've just had to look that up. Yes, that was about right. He tutted when I didn't hold my daughter's shirt tight enough for him to sign... I actually don't think he even heard the mournful middle aged man saying 'don't go, Jack.'
I think I would let him gob on me as he walked away on a bed of freshly thrown rose petals. On the other hand his misses is minging, gas bills have gone up and he's on nights for the rest of the week so he has every right not to smile at you...peasant.
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Oh, as for the match, first 10 mins I thought we were going to get hammered then we got a grip and some of our players did their stuff and a few showed why they don't normally get into the first team. I agree we aren't clinical in front of goal despite having scored so many. A draw, which we nearly achieved, would have been a reasonable result with Mings, Jack, McGinn, Mings and El Ghazi missing.
Yes I would expect a reasonable result with two Mings in the team.
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Oh, as for the match, first 10 mins I thought we were going to get hammered then we got a grip and some of our players did their stuff and a few showed why they don't normally get into the first team. I agree we aren't clinical in front of goal despite having scored so many. A draw, which we nearly achieved, would have been a reasonable result with Mings, Jack, McGinn, Mings and El Ghazi missing.
Yes I would expect a reasonable result with two Mings in the team.
I meant to put in two John McGinns. And one Tammy.
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Oh, as for the match, first 10 mins I thought we were going to get hammered then we got a grip and some of our players did their stuff and a few showed why they don't normally get into the first team. I agree we aren't clinical in front of goal despite having scored so many. A draw, which we nearly achieved, would have been a reasonable result with Mings, Jack, McGinn, Mings and El Ghazi missing.
Yes I would expect a reasonable result with two Mings in the team.
I meant to put in two John McGinns. And one Tammy.
...Fiiiiive gold rings.
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just back - somehow I feel a bot deflated, even though it was a half strength side we created a lot of chances and once again failed to score more than one. We need everyone back and playing to the top of their game to win through against WBA.
Gutted to hear about your bot deflation, mr underhill. Hope you recover swiftly.
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I thought we played quite well to be honest but probably should have put the chances away we had. Whelan and Kodjia stood out for me. The goal we gave away was extremely sloppy though.
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BB awful today. Lansbury good. Green/Adomah not so good. Need AEG back. Good job his red was rescinded. Good to see Hutton on the pitch and he played his usual game but his time at the club is almost up. A remarkable run him considering how average he is.
You're Footyskillz aren't you?
No, XXVilla doesn't take up 13 forum pages to post 3 paragraphs.
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Just 5 pages on a game we lost 6 hours after the final whistle sums up the dead rubber of this I think.
Good old days of January we'd be onto 12 by now!
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BB awful today. Lansbury good. Green/Adomah not so good. Need AEG back. Good job his red was rescinded. Good to see Hutton on the pitch and he played his usual game but his time at the club is almost up. A remarkable run him considering how average he is.
You're Footyskillz aren't you?
No, XXVilla doesn't take up 13 forum pages to post 3 paragraphs.
That's paul_e...
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Could easily have won that game.
A few pleasant things. The Norwich fans joining in with the HEITS thing. Our fans clapping their team when they came off. Us giving them a guard of honour.
Nice to see some pleasantry in the world.
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Could easily have won that game.
A few pleasant things. The Norwich fans joining in with the HEITS thing. Our fans clapping their team when they came off. Us giving them a guard of honour.
Nice to see some pleasantry in the world.
I am sure it will be the same for the next 2 games.
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Probably the most relaxed I've been at a game since pre-season at Bescot.
Thought we were decent in the circumstances, created plenty, rested arguably our 4 most important players and came through with no injuries. I'll have most likely erased everything about this game from my memory within a couple of days.
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BB awful today. Lansbury good. Green/Adomah not so good. Need AEG back. Good job his red was rescinded. Good to see Hutton on the pitch and he played his usual game but his time at the club is almost up. A remarkable run him considering how average he is.
You're Footyskillz aren't you?
No, XXVilla doesn't take up 13 forum pages to post 3 paragraphs.
That's paul_e...
Oi
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Is Abraham fit again?
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he's not my type but he looked ok accepting his award.
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Is Abraham fit again?
Yes.
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I have never witnessed a team being presented with a trophy at an away ground like that before. Would that happen at the Sty? Give them their moment in the sun before the struggles start.
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Could easily have won that game.
A few pleasant things. The Norwich fans joining in with the HEITS thing. Our fans clapping their team when they came off. Us giving them a guard of honour.
Nice to see some pleasantry in the world.
I'm glad they, and we did that.
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BB awful today. Lansbury good. Green/Adomah not so good. Need AEG back. Good job his red was rescinded. Good to see Hutton on the pitch and he played his usual game but his time at the club is almost up. A remarkable run him considering how average he is.
You're Footyskillz aren't you?
No. If I was Footyskillz it would say Footyskillz instead of XXVilla. And what’s your point anyway..?
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BB awful today. Lansbury good. Green/Adomah not so good. Need AEG back. Good job his red was rescinded. Good to see Hutton on the pitch and he played his usual game but his time at the club is almost up. A remarkable run him considering how average he is.
BB awful? Hard to judge someone when they only came on in the 80th minute.
He was shit today and has been shit all season. An absolute passenger... and a sulky one at that. Get rid in the off season.
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BB awful today. Lansbury good. Green/Adomah not so good. Need AEG back. Good job his red was rescinded. Good to see Hutton on the pitch and he played his usual game but his time at the club is almost up. A remarkable run him considering how average he is.
You're Footyskillz aren't you?
No. If I was Footyskillz it would say Footyskillz instead of XXVilla. And what’s your point anyway..?
Calm down Deirdre Barlow
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BB awful today. Lansbury good. Green/Adomah not so good. Need AEG back. Good job his red was rescinded. Good to see Hutton on the pitch and he played his usual game but his time at the club is almost up. A remarkable run him considering how average he is.
You're Footyskillz aren't you?
No. If I was Footyskillz it would say Footyskillz instead of XXVilla. And what’s your point anyway..?
Calm down Deirdre Barlow
Er yeah ok. You could always just answer the question.
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BB awful today. Lansbury good. Green/Adomah not so good. Need AEG back. Good job his red was rescinded. Good to see Hutton on the pitch and he played his usual game but his time at the club is almost up. A remarkable run him considering how average he is.
You're Footyskillz aren't you?
No. If I was Footyskillz it would say Footyskillz instead of XXVilla. And what’s your point anyway..?
Calm down Deirdre Barlow
Er yeah ok. You could always just answer the question.
You just sounded a little like Footy, that's all mate.
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BB awful today. Lansbury good. Green/Adomah not so good. Need AEG back. Good job his red was rescinded. Good to see Hutton on the pitch and he played his usual game but his time at the club is almost up. A remarkable run him considering how average he is.
You're Footyskillz aren't you?
No. If I was Footyskillz it would say Footyskillz instead of XXVilla. And what’s your point anyway..?
Calm down Deirdre Barlow
Er yeah ok. You could always just answer the question.
You just sounded a little like Footy, that's all mate.
Yeah whatever. Try consuming a little less sugar before bed time
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Chill. All.
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BB awful today. Lansbury good. Green/Adomah not so good. Need AEG back. Good job his red was rescinded. Good to see Hutton on the pitch and he played his usual game but his time at the club is almost up. A remarkable run him considering how average he is.
You're Footyskillz aren't you?
No. If I was Footyskillz it would say Footyskillz instead of XXVilla. And what’s your point anyway..?
Calm down Deirdre Barlow
Er yeah ok. You could always just answer the question.
You just sounded a little like Footy, that's all mate.
Yeah whatever. Try consuming a little less sugar before bed time
I'm diabetic so I try not to.
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BB awful today. Lansbury good. Green/Adomah not so good. Need AEG back. Good job his red was rescinded. Good to see Hutton on the pitch and he played his usual game but his time at the club is almost up. A remarkable run him considering how average he is.
You're Footyskillz aren't you?
No. If I was Footyskillz it would say Footyskillz instead of XXVilla. And what’s your point anyway..?
Calm down Deirdre Barlow
Er yeah ok. You could always just answer the question.
You just sounded a little like Footy, that's all mate.
Yeah whatever. Try consuming a little less sugar before bed time
I'm diabetic so I try not to.
Ah
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The game meant little and it showed both on the field and in the stands.
The positives were that the deserved league winners found it hard to break down and beat a much changed Villa team.
The negatives were that we looked very ordinary, pedestrian through centre midfield and laboured in the wide areas. Of the players given a chance I thought only Hause gave the manager something to ponder.
Of we don’t go up that looked a side we are likely to field, but it lacks zip.
Terrible second goal to concede, no pressure on the ball at all. Well done to Norwich, I didn’t think they’d last the distance and didn’t think they were as good down here as Leeds, Sheffield or Forest but they get the spoils.
MOM Whelan.
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2018/2019 Average Home League Attendance 36,007
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2018/2019 Average Home League Attendance 36,007
That's incredible really.
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I have never witnessed a team being presented with a trophy at an away ground like that before. Would that happen at the Sty? Give them their moment in the sun before the struggles start.
It always happens. Burnley got given it on the pitch at Charlton a few years back when Charlton fans were trying to invade pitch and protest at the owner. If Man City win the league at Brighton on final day they'll lift the trophy there.
If you didn't want to see it just leave on the final whistle, seems pretty straight forward to me.
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2018/2019 Average Home League Attendance 36,007
That's incredible really.
Fantastic for such an up and down season, which will hopefully end really well.
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Of we don’t go up that looked a side we are likely to field, but it lacks zip.
There’s been a few comments like that but I’m going to have to disagree. Dean and the management team will have plans in place for this scenario, and I would expect a lot of outgoing and incoming players in the summer. I very much doubt the team will look anything like the team that was out there today. Anyways, let’s worry about that another day...we have the playoffs to win! :)
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Of today's squad, Steer, Hutton, Whelan, Green, Jedinak and Elphick are out of contract in June. There'll be wholesale changes whichever division we're in.
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Could easily have won that game.
A few pleasant things. The Norwich fans joining in with the HEITS thing. Our fans clapping their team when they came off. Us giving them a guard of honour.
Nice to see some pleasantry in the world.
I'm glad they, and we did that.
What’s the HEITS thing?
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Could easily have won that game.
A few pleasant things. The Norwich fans joining in with the HEITS thing. Our fans clapping their team when they came off. Us giving them a guard of honour.
Nice to see some pleasantry in the world.
I'm glad they, and we did that.
What’s the HEITS thing?
Holte Enders In The Sky commemorating recently departed Villa fans.
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I have never witnessed a team being presented with a trophy at an away ground like that before. Would that happen at the Sty? Give them their moment in the sun before the struggles start.
It always happens. Burnley got given it on the pitch at Charlton a few years back when Charlton fans were trying to invade pitch and protest at the owner. If Man City win the league at Brighton on final day they'll lift the trophy there.
If you didn't want to see it just leave on the final whistle, seems pretty straight forward to me.
Also, as they only won the league today, and today is the last game of the season, the options are quite limited as to when they could do it.
I think it's great that they felt that they could do it without our fans spoiling it. Shows the difference between us and halfwits like the Blues or Leeds.
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I agree. We’ve had a lot of unfair stick this week. This showed the true class of our football club. Farke described our stadium in glowing terms as well.
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One of my Norwich supporting work colleagues was in the away end and seemed to have enjoyed himself. Sent me a message that ended "loved Villa Park, proper ground with real character and great atmosphere"
As for the result, not bothered really as the important thing was resting several players ready for the play offs.
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Nothing game really.
Started slowly and could have been two down inside 10 minutes, but after that and in the 2nd half in particular I thought we dominated them.
A full strength Villa would have murdered them, but it was wise to rest players as Leeds and the Albion have.
Lansbury a weak link, but Thor was even worse. You can't let players run at you like that.
Oh well. Not overly concerned. The focus is clearly on the Play Offs.
Far from a Lansbury fan but thought he played well. So did most fans judging by the standing ovation he got when he went off.
We were much worse with Bjarny on the pitch.
The main thing was avoiding injury and suspension so don't really care about today's result. And Baggies no longer have the minor psychological boost of being the last team to beat us. If we are clutching at straws.
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I too thought Lansbury played well. Bjarnasson seems to be the only player DS is failing to get a big improvement out of. And Green to a lesser extent who is fast becoming the latest in a long recent line of Villa players who play too slowly. In his case I think it is mental not physical. He receives the ball in a potentially threatening position but the message to his legs to go full gas gets bumped down his "what to do next" list. Good wide men do the working out on the run. Is Andre Green a work in progress? Maybe.
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First ten minutes I thought we were in for a torrid afternoon but we recovered well. For a team missing its best players we performed better than expected and Davis for the time he was on the pitch seems to have got his game back again, as for Green he lacks the pace for a top winger he has many attributes but a couple of times he was beaten by a speedier full back. Not sure my nervous system will stand watching the playoffs.
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And a proud record has now gone. No team had ‘doubled’ us since we went down but Norwich now have.
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I too thought Lansbury played well. Bjarnasson seems to be the only player DS is failing to get a big improvement out of. And Green to a lesser extent who is fast becoming the latest in a long recent line of Villa players who play too slowly. In his case I think it is mental not physical. He receives the ball in a potentially threatening position but the message to his legs to go full gas gets bumped down his "what to do next" list. Good wide men do the working out on the run. Is Andre Green a work in progress? Maybe.
Spot on this, I want my wingers to hug touchline and take on a man and Green does neither, he constantly checks inside and slows down play. Only time in game he actually did what he is supposed to do we nearly scored in second half. He beat the full back, got to byline and cut it back.
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Our wingers are told to cut in to drag a man inside to allow the full back to overlap.
El Ghazi does it regularly too.
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For a nothing game it was surprisingly entertaining. End to end and I think a fair scoreline. Hernandez is impressive. We lacked a bit of creativity, but that was understandable with Grealish and McGinn out.
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Obviously disappointed that we lost, if we were to lose a game in our recent run I'm glad it was this one in a nothing game for us. When Barny came on the pitch I saw an almost immediate dip in our performance. He's not settled at Villa at all. Lansbury did ok but clearly lacks match fitness. He may do a job coming on as an impact sub in playoff games. Another Conor assist and Kodjia goal indicated to me that these 2 may well have a big part to play in the playoffs, whilst accepting that there are plenty of big occasion players to return to the starting 11.
Norwich supporters were fine yesterday. I spoke to a couple before the game and they seemed grounded, enjoying the moment but realistic about their chances next season. They stated that they may only spend £20m max in their prem league return. On basis of yesterday I can see them struggling. Playoffs next, come on Villa!! UTV
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How many of our goals have come from grealish, McGinn, Abraham, AEG this season? I could look it up but basically with Kodjia misfiring hoirihane was our only serious goal threat yesterday.
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How many of our goals have come from grealish, McGinn, Abraham, AEG this season? I could look it up but basically with Kodjia misfiring hoirihane was our only serious goal threat yesterday.
Kodjia mis-firing is a bit harsh. He did score our goal.
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I too thought Lansbury played well. Bjarnasson seems to be the only player DS is failing to get a big improvement out of. And Green to a lesser extent who is fast becoming the latest in a long recent line of Villa players who play too slowly. In his case I think it is mental not physical. He receives the ball in a potentially threatening position but the message to his legs to go full gas gets bumped down his "what to do next" list. Good wide men do the working out on the run. Is Andre Green a work in progress? Maybe.
Something is not right with Bjarneson. I think he's off. When the pkayers were taking the applause at the end of the game he was first to dive down the tunnel. Maybe he's feeling a bit surplus to requirements.
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I too thought Lansbury played well. Bjarnasson seems to be the only player DS is failing to get a big improvement out of. And Green to a lesser extent who is fast becoming the latest in a long recent line of Villa players who play too slowly. In his case I think it is mental not physical. He receives the ball in a potentially threatening position but the message to his legs to go full gas gets bumped down his "what to do next" list. Good wide men do the working out on the run. Is Andre Green a work in progress? Maybe.
Something is not right with Bjarneson. I think he's off. When the pkayers were taking the applause at the end of the game he was first to dive down the tunnel. Maybe he's feeling a bit surplus to requirements.
He's always struck me as a bit of a surly, miserable so-and-so. Looks to me that he thinks he's better than he actually is.
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It is possible that Birkir is finding it hard to adjust to being a national hero in Iceland and a bench player in the English second tier. In Rekyavik the Iceland team photo is in every shop window with BB up front and centre of the picture. He tries hard and is a natural fit in a team of triers. In more complex, choreographed play he struggles. The world loves a trier. I wish him well.
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I too thought Lansbury played well. Bjarnasson seems to be the only player DS is failing to get a big improvement out of. And Green to a lesser extent who is fast becoming the latest in a long recent line of Villa players who play too slowly. In his case I think it is mental not physical. He receives the ball in a potentially threatening position but the message to his legs to go full gas gets bumped down his "what to do next" list. Good wide men do the working out on the run. Is Andre Green a work in progress? Maybe.
Spot on this, I want my wingers to hug touchline and take on a man and Green does neither, he constantly checks inside and slows down play. Only time in game he actually did what he is supposed to do we nearly scored in second half. He beat the full back, got to byline and cut it back.
Andre Green was the only player who really disappointed me today. Showed some clever footwork but usually ended up losing the ball rather than using it. didn't link with/use Taylor in the way El Ghazi has done in recent weeks. Not sure he's got what it takes unfortunately.
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I too thought Lansbury played well. Bjarnasson seems to be the only player DS is failing to get a big improvement out of. And Green to a lesser extent who is fast becoming the latest in a long recent line of Villa players who play too slowly. In his case I think it is mental not physical. He receives the ball in a potentially threatening position but the message to his legs to go full gas gets bumped down his "what to do next" list. Good wide men do the working out on the run. Is Andre Green a work in progress? Maybe.
Spot on this, I want my wingers to hug touchline and take on a man and Green does neither, he constantly checks inside and slows down play. Only time in game he actually did what he is supposed to do we nearly scored in second half. He beat the full back, got to byline and cut it back.
Andre Green was the only player who really disappointed me today. Showed some clever footwork but usually ended up losing the ball rather than using it. didn't link with/use Taylor in the way El Ghazi has done in recent weeks. Not sure he's got what it takes unfortunately.
For a winger, he lacks a bit of sharp pace. Lost out in a few 1v1 leg races yesterday.
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Ian Holloway thick t—t but villa lost to Norwich. Yes we did but with a second string side and we well have beaten them
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I thought the Holte Enders in the sky was brilliant and moving. Well done AVFC.
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Bjarni I thought did well at time last season but he's done little this year and hardly played.
One I thought we'd let go in January due to how stocked we are in midfield but guess wages he's on here meant there's not a stampede for his services from second tier clubs in europe.
Will surely leave in the summer.
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How many of our goals have come from grealish, McGinn, Abraham, AEG this season? I could look it up but basically with Kodjia misfiring hoirihane was our only serious goal threat yesterday.
Kodjia mis-firing is a bit harsh. He did score our goal.
It’s true and I thought the same as I typed. But for me post-injury Kodjia still misses at least one sitter a game and is nowhere near Abraham in terms of pure goal threat.
As an aside though I like Kodjia and would prefer him to be slotted into the team at the expense of green who continues to offer not very much.
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Green strikes me as a bit "Theo Walcott". Looks quite exciting, but not enough end product.
I think he can still improve though, and he works hard for the team.
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I just think Green looks like completely out of his depth. He's not good enough for where we are now, and certainly isn't if we do manage to win the play offs.
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Yeah agree - he’s pretty lucky to be getting so much game time and hasn’t done much to justify it. In mitigation, i think it’s been conspicuous lately because our starting 11 has had so few weak links.
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Job done. Core of team rested for the games that matter, and onto the lottery of the playoffs we go.
If you'd said to me during the furore at the start of the season that we'd finish 5th and have sewn up a playoffs spot with weeks to spare, I'd have snapped your hand off. A huge well done to the new owners, Deano and the squad.
Let's not let it go to waste - Let's fuck the fuckers and get back to where we belong!
UTV
My thoughts exactly.
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I was watching some video about week ago where Adomah was doing a Q&A, I think from a while back, and when asked who was the fastest and who was the most skilful Villa player said Green was in both cases. For me Green potentially has everything except self belief. He needs to back himself more and take on his man instead of stopping and looking for a pass every time. I think Grealish was similar in some respects for a while, didn't always back himself and too often looked for a safe pass. Now he just waltzes past opponents who can only stop him by fouling him. Green needs to do likewise.
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i noticed we played a lot of local Birmingham area music before kick off and at half time on Sunday
Black Sabbath
Ocean Colour scene
Dexy’s midnight runners
Ozzy
Judas Priest
is this something that’s been going on for ages without me noticing or is it a new thing ?
thought it was a good touch either way
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I was watching some video about week ago where Adomah was doing a Q&A, I think from a while back, and when asked who was the fastest and who was the most skilful Villa player said Green was in both cases. For me Green potentially has everything except self belief. He needs to back himself more and take on his man instead of stopping and looking for a pass every time. I think Grealish was similar in some respects for a while, didn't always back himself and too often looked for a safe pass. Now he just waltzes past opponents who can only stop him by fouling him. Green needs to do likewise.
I mentioned on the Bree thread Green has everything you'd want from a modern winger, on paper, but there's clearly something wrong somewhere. It might just be in his head and getting the confidence will make the difference (this has been my stance for a while) but he needs to earn the time to build that confidence by showing clear improvement, I'm not sure he's doing that right now.
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He's still learning at this level. Shame he pulled his hamstring early on in 2017 as he'd just scored a cracker v Norwich so confidence was sky high. Lost a good year of his career as when he came back we'd signed Snodgrass as a season replacement who did very well.
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Job done. Core of team rested for the games that matter, and onto the lottery of the playoffs we go.
If you'd said to me during the furore at the start of the season that we'd finish 5th and have sewn up a playoffs spot with weeks to spare, I'd have snapped your hand off. A huge well done to the new owners, Deano and the squad.
Let's not let it go to waste - Let's fuck the fuckers and get back to where we belong!
UTV
My thoughts exactly.
I don’t get why the playoffs are a lottery? If we plan better than everyone and have the best players we will win. They are normal matches played with essentially the same rules as the regular league campaign.
I have complete faith in Dean Smith over the caretaker manager at West Brom over two games and with Bielsa or Lampard in one game at Wembley.
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Me too. I dont know why there is any concern. Maybe its the years of hurt that is holding back the confidence. The way I see it with a full strength side we can beat anyone in the play-offs. The only reason we are not promoted yet is that we didnt have any defenders for the first half of the season and that issue is well and truly sorted now. Grealish and McGinn will drive us all the way back to the Prem
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i noticed we played a lot of local Birmingham area music before kick off and at half time on Sunday
Black Sabbath
Ocean Colour scene
Dexy’s midnight runners
Ozzy
Judas Priest
is this something that’s been going on for ages without me noticing or is it a new thing ?
thought it was a good touch either way
They played them against Millwall as well, except against Millwall they also played Theme from a Unmade Silent Movie as well. Oh, they also played Roy Orbison (Penny Arcade) against Millwall as well, dont know what the reason for that one was?
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Me too. I dont know why there is any concern. Maybe its the years of hurt that is holding back the confidence. The way I see it with a full strength side we can beat anyone in the play-offs. The only reason we are not promoted yet is that we didnt have any defenders for the first half of the season and that issue is well and truly sorted now. Grealish and McGinn will drive us all the way back to the Prem
I know you're right, but it's the hope that kills you...
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I thought the Holte Enders in the sky was brilliant and moving. Well done AVFC.
So did I
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i noticed we played a lot of local Birmingham area music before kick off and at half time on Sunday
Black Sabbath
Ocean Colour scene
Dexy’s midnight runners
Ozzy
Judas Priest
is this something that’s been going on for ages without me noticing or is it a new thing ?
thought it was a good touch either way
They played them against Millwall as well, except against Millwall they also played Theme from a Unmade Silent Movie as well. Oh, they also played Roy Orbison (Penny Arcade) against Millwall as well, dont know what the reason for that one was?
A Villa/Orbison fan posted this on Facebook, I know it's a popular song with Glasgow Rangers fans and is played all the time at Ibrox. I hope there is another reason why it was played a Villa Park, the former is a road we don't want to be going down.
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I don't think they need a reason for each and every song they play?
Good to hear Theme from an unmade silent movie get a airing recently.
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I was watching some video about week ago where Adomah was doing a Q&A, I think from a while back, and when asked who was the fastest and who was the most skilful Villa player said Green was in both cases. For me Green potentially has everything except self belief. He needs to back himself more and take on his man instead of stopping and looking for a pass every time. I think Grealish was similar in some respects for a while, didn't always back himself and too often looked for a safe pass. Now he just waltzes past opponents who can only stop him by fouling him. Green needs to do likewise.
I mentioned on the Bree thread Green has everything you'd want from a modern winger, on paper, but there's clearly something wrong somewhere. It might just be in his head and getting the confidence will make the difference (this has been my stance for a while) but he needs to earn the time to build that confidence by showing clear improvement, I'm not sure he's doing that right now.
If any manager and coach are going to get consistency and improvement from him it's the ones we have. Green's early development was with managers that weren't up to it.
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Piss poor effort by Tuanzebe for their winner. Kodjia flouncing on the ground for their first when he was too lazy to track the run. Hourihane looked very sharp in those highlights, going to be a tough call to leave him out. The midfield three of him, Grealish and McGinn dominated them at the Hawthorns but Whelan does give us more balance.
On the subject of Green, his first touch seems wooden, unable to keep possession when tightly marked. Given his frame, he should be well able to protect the ball. McGinn should give him a few tips! Green does tend to get plenty of goal chances though, another one there in first half that he really should have scored.
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Well, Rangers sing it because of the UDA connection so I doubt that's the reason.
Perhaps we played in it tribute to Dr Xia.
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Me too. I dont know why there is any concern. Maybe its the years of hurt that is holding back the confidence. The way I see it with a full strength side we can beat anyone in the play-offs. The only reason we are not promoted yet is that we didnt have any defenders for the first half of the season and that issue is well and truly sorted now. Grealish and McGinn will drive us all the way back to the Prem
We're toss playing in finals at Wembley for a start.
Take last year. Even when we woke up in the second half we still didn't force one corner and think Jack mazy run was the only shot on target we had. We were playing 10 men for last 25 minutes so very poor although still not as bad as 2000 and 2015.
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End of season game for us the players that came in did well enough we got to rest the main player's and no new injury worries.
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Well, Rangers sing it because of the UDA connection so I doubt that's the reason.
Perhaps we played in it tribute to Dr Xia.
They don't, but well done on managing to squeeze your obsession in. Now if you'd like to talk about the Villa, feel free.
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Me too. I dont know why there is any concern. Maybe its the years of hurt that is holding back the confidence. The way I see it with a full strength side we can beat anyone in the play-offs. The only reason we are not promoted yet is that we didnt have any defenders for the first half of the season and that issue is well and truly sorted now. Grealish and McGinn will drive us all the way back to the Prem
We're toss playing in finals at Wembley for a start.
Take last year. Even when we woke up in the second half we still didn't force one corner and think Jack mazy run was the only shot on target we had. We were playing 10 men for last 25 minutes so very poor although still not as bad as 2000 and 2015.
Just be sheer weight of numbers, we are destined to win one, but let us get there first.
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Well, Rangers sing it because of the UDA connection so I doubt that's the reason.
Perhaps we played in it tribute to Dr Xia.
They don't, but well done on managing to squeeze your obsession in. Now if you'd like to talk about the Villa, feel free.
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Not too bothered about Dr. Tone tbf or a fan of Calvinist Klein colognes. ;)
Cheers, UTV!
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Penny Arcade is always played at ibrox Rangers song