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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Hookeysmith on March 31, 2019, 07:56:11 AM
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The very melodic one with something about 1982 and "Villa were your masters?"
I'm a little deaf so ant make out all the words.
Is there any history to this song as it seems to have come out of no where?
Could someone advise of the lyrics please.
When in full voice it sounds superb
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It’s a local version of a song Liverpool have been singing for a few seasons in European games. Allez, Allez.
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Everywhere we follow
The boys in claret and blue
We even conquered Europe
In 1982
The Villa boys from Aston
We travel near and far
You can hear us singing
From the stands of Villa Park
Allez Allez Allez
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Many thanks
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It's just a rip off of a song Liverpool fans sing with annoying frequency. I dislike it and it makes me angry.
There again, I'm a miserable bastard and most things make me angry. Cycling, coffee shops, garden gnomes.. The list goes on.
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Like most football songs these days most clubs fans pick up on it and have their own version. Who cares, I love it.
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I've also heard 2 versions of SJMs song but not sure which is right...
We've got McGinn
Super John McGinn
I don't think you really understand
He's Dean Smiths man / He's a Villa man
He's better than Zidane
We've got Super John McGinn
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It's just a rip off of a song Liverpool fans sing with annoying frequency. I dislike it and it makes me angry.
There again, I'm a miserable bastard and most things make me angry. Cycling, coffee shops, garden gnomes.. The list goes on.
I understand. My middle name is Victor.
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I've also heard 2 versions of SJMs song but not sure which is right...
We've got McGinn
Super John McGinn
I don't think you really understand
He's Dean Smiths man / He's a Villa man
He's better than Zidane
We've got Super John McGinn
I always thought it was 'he's our man!'
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I've also heard 2 versions of SJMs song but not sure which is right...
We've got McGinn
Super John McGinn
I don't think you really understand
He's Dean Smiths man / He's a Villa man
He's better than Zidane
We've got Super John McGinn
I always thought it was 'he's our man!'
During Dean Smith's first home game this song was sung, but there was some confusion when it got to the line 'He's .... .....'s man' as people suddenly realised they couldn't sing Steve Bruce's name any more and were momentarily confused about whose name to sing!
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Liverpool copied it from Napoli.
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Everywhere we follow
The boys in claret and blue
We even conquered Europe
In 1982
The Villa boys from Aston
We travel near and far
You can hear us singing
From the stands of Villa Park
Allez Allez Allez
[Pedant]
First line is 'every week we follow'
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Now I know the words I can't stop singing the fucker ;D
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Now I know the words I can't stop singing the fucker ;D
Me too! 😃
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Thank you for asking Hookey, having had life on hold with moving house and a little one well on the way it’s been a while, I also was trying to make it out from unusally being in the Witton Lane. A bit of variety is good. Trying to think if there was anything else. What was the Ming’s song?
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I can't get Mings name out of my head now so can't quite remember who we used to sing it for many years ago, but Mings song is one of the old classics...
He's here
He's there
He's every fuckin where
Tyrone Mings, Tyrone Mings!
edit:
Was there someone else before/after Shaun Teale with the same song?
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Andy Gray
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Andy Gray
As is Tammy's.
Andy Gray, the only player I know who had 4 songs!!
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Everywhere we follow
The boys in claret and blue
We even conquered Europe
In 1982
The Villa boys from Aston
We travel near and far
You can hear us singing
From the stands of Villa Park
Allez Allez Allez
[Pedant]
First line is 'every week we follow'
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I thought it was "everywhere" too. That's what we've all been singing anyway!
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It's just a rip off of a song Liverpool fans sing with annoying frequency. I dislike it and it makes me angry.
There again, I'm a miserable bastard and most things make me angry. Cycling, coffee shops, garden gnomes.. The list goes on.
You are Nigel Blackwell and I claim my five pounds :)
.....I totally agree with you about the song. However, I find most football songs/chants annoying
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I can't get Mings name out of my head now so can't quite remember who we used to sing it for many years ago, but Mings song is one of the old classics...
He's here
He's there
He's every fuckin where
Tyrone Mings, Tyrone Mings!
edit:
Was there someone else before/after Shaun Teale with the same song?
That’s what I presumed the Mings song was but I’m sure some people around me on Saturday were singing “his hair, his hair, it’s every fu**ing where”
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I can remember singing that song when Shaun Teale was playing for us happy day's.
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I really hate the allez allez song - I think it’s hideously dreary.
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I can't get Mings name out of my head now so can't quite remember who we used to sing it for many years ago, but Mings song is one of the old classics...
He's here
He's there
He's every fuckin where
Tyrone Mings, Tyrone Mings!
edit:
Was there someone else before/after Shaun Teale with the same song?
Barry Hole... Is the one that I remember!!
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I've also heard 2 versions of SJMs song but not sure which is right...
We've got McGinn
Super John McGinn
I don't think you really understand
He's Dean Smiths man / He's a Villa man
He's better than Zidane
We've got Super John McGinn
I always thought it was 'he's our man!'
It is "He's Dean Smiths man"
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It does sound great but a bit disappointed to find it's not our song.
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I really hate the allez allez song - I think it’s hideously dreary.
i love it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OekBmiu7AAY
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Andy Gray, the only player I know who had 4 songs!!
I can only think of three:
He's here, he's there..
Oh Andy
Andy is back (when there was a dog running around on the pitch)
What was the other, Nigel?
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Love it. Don't give a shit if it's nicked.
UTV
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Andy Gray, the only player I know who had 4 songs!!
I can only think of three:
He's here, he's there..
Oh Andy
Andy is back (when there was a dog running around on the pitch)
What was the other, Nigel?
Oooh, Andy, Andy (Tammy)
He's here, he's there (Mings)
You are our Andy, our only Andy, you make me happy when sky's are grey
Oooh Andy, Oooh Andy, you're the greatest, the Holte End say
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John Carew had 4 songs.
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John Carew had 4 songs.
What were they?
I can only remember the '...bigger than me and you ' one
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John Carew had 4 songs.
What were they?
I can only remember the '...bigger than me and you ' one
There was one about he likes a lap dance or two
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I sung "he bought me a pint or two" as a parting shot in a bar in The Arcadian the day after the 5-1 game. My mate was the chef. The Scandinavian contingent were out to play. Me, chef and his mate were the only other people there. They had copious amounts of champagne so presumably bibs was off for the week, cones was having a nap and the 4 eyed bottle job was practicing saying "terrific" in the mirror.
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John Carew had 4 songs.
Carew's on fire!
What were they?
I can only remember the '...bigger than me and you ' one
There was one about he likes a lap dance or two
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Vindaloo
A team of John Carews
Carew is on fire
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John Carew had 4 songs.
Carew's on fire!
What were they?
I can only remember the '...bigger than me and you ' one
There was one about he likes a lap dance or two
Quote fail - sorry!
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Vindaloo
A team of John Carews
Carew is on fire
Not going to dispute it, bud, but, have to say I don't remember singing or hearing any of them.
I do remember there were a couple of different versions of 'Bigger than me and you' (lap dance being one)
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‘Carew is on fire’ was his first song (chant) - before ‘bigger than me & you’. I can remember everyone pouring out of the Holte chanting it after a win early in his stay with us.
I heard ‘A team of John Carers regularly at away pubs, but maybe not so much at the game.
To be fair ‘Vindaloo’ never took off like it should have done (just singing John Carew instead of Vindaloo) - that would have been the best one if it had.
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I don’t know why I am getting that Euro thing going on. I can also see it in some other people’s posts. What is it?
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Brexit init
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‘Carew is on fire’ was his first song (chant) - before ‘bigger than me & you’. I can remember everyone pouring out of the Holte chanting it after a win early in his stay with us.
I heard ‘A team of John Carers regularly at away pubs, but maybe not so much at the game.
To be fair ‘Vindaloo’ never took off like it should have done (just singing John Carew instead of Vindaloo) - that would have been the best one if it had.
Cheers, bud
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Sounded great on Saturday! To really make it our own we should translate to Brummie. Replace Allez, Allez,Allez with-
Goo on, Goo on, Goo on!! :) :)
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I like it.
When it’s belted out like it was against Blackburn and at the end of the SW game, it’s a bit good.
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I like it. If it’s the song of our promotion season so be it. And as for it not being original, all football songs are passed around these days there’s hardly any unique ones.
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Just for the record, should we be promoted, anybody that sings "We are Premier League" should have a lifetime ban or a five year season ticket to the Sty.
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Don’t deny the Villa, we’re gonna go up
Don’t deny the Villa , we’re gonna go up
Gonna go up, we’re gonna go up etc...
To the tune of passengers by Elton John. Go on make it happen, I’m far to shy to try.
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Much as I detest Manchester United, I like the "Ole's at the wheel" song to the Stone Roses track (Waterfall). When there's thousands of them all singing it, it sounds pretty good.
We should change the words and nick that too.
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Just for the record, should we be promoted, anybody that sings "We are Premier League" should have a lifetime ban or a five year season ticket to the Sty.
Nah! Got to be the opening lines to hello hello, I'm back again by that Gary Glitter bloke.
Actually, no, maybe not.
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Now I know the words I can't stop singing the fucker ;D
Me too! 😃
I know it's a rip off, so to speak, but I freaking love it...
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Much as I detest Manchester United, I like the "Ole's at the wheel" song to the Stone Roses track (Waterfall). When there's thousands of them all singing it, it sounds pretty good.
We should change the words and nick that too.
And then claim it as our own. Always look on..
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Much as I detest Manchester United, I like the "Ole's at the wheel" song to the Stone Roses track (Waterfall). When there's thousands of them all singing it, it sounds pretty good.
We should change the words and nick that too.
And then claim it as our own. Always look on..
Ooh Aah...
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Man U nicked “Always look in the bright side of life” off us.
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Much as I detest Manchester United, I like the "Ole's at the wheel" song to the Stone Roses track (Waterfall). When there's thousands of them all singing it, it sounds pretty good.
We should change the words and nick that too.
Deano's at the wheel...
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Much as I detest Manchester United, I like the "Ole's at the wheel" song to the Stone Roses track (Waterfall). When there's thousands of them all singing it, it sounds pretty good.
We should change the words and nick that too.
Deano's at the wheel...
Deano's at the wheel
Tell me how good does it feel?
We've got Tammy, Jack Grealish, and Mings,
Whelan and Super John McGinn,
Du, du, du du, du, du, du du du
The Greatest of English football,
We've won it all
Du, du, du du, du, du, du du du
Had to finish it off
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Man U nicked “Always look in the bright side of life” off us.
I'm still annoyed about that now!
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Much as I detest Manchester United, I like the "Ole's at the wheel" song to the Stone Roses track (Waterfall). When there's thousands of them all singing it, it sounds pretty good.
We should change the words and nick that too.
Deano's at the wheel...
Deano's at the wheel
Tell me how good does it feel?
We've got Tammy, Jack Grealish, and Mings,
Whelan and Super John McGinn,
Du, du, du du, du, du, du du du
The Greatest of English football,
We've won it all
Du, du, du du, du, du, du du du
Had to finish it off
I've loved that album for years, except that track, I can't stand it.
So it's no from me.
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She wore,
she wore,
she wore a claret ribbon,
She wore it for the Villa, in the merry month of May,
And when I asked, her why she wore that ribbon,
She said it's for the Villa, coz we're going to some place in north west London!!
Some place in north west London!! Some place in north west London!!
We're the famous Aston Villa and we're going to some place in north west London!!
Kinda catcha, what?
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There was a song doing the rounds for John McGinn based on Manfredd Mann’s The Mighty Quinn
Catchy
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We need a proper one for Jack
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We need a proper one for Jack
Captain Jack, Captain Jack
One of our’s and the Villas back.
To the tune of ‘Exerpt from a teenage opera’ (for all you really old buggers out there).
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Now I know the words I can't stop singing the fucker ;D
was going through my head all bloody night last night trying to get to sleep.
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There was a song doing the rounds for John McGinn based on Manfredd Mann’s The Mighty Quinn
Catchy
The Spurs one for Anderton based on 'Darren's chin' was a good one using that.
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Two John McGinn’s, there only two John McGinn’s.
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Two John McGinn’s, there only two John McGinn’s.
Very good
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We need a proper one for Jack
I've always thought there could be something in:
Jack Grealish is magic, he wears his magic pads...
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neil taylor needs one
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neil taylor needs one
If he's having one, I want one too!
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Yow ay a great left back (at least I don't think you are)
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We need a proper one for Jack
I've always thought there could be something in:
Jack Grealish is magic, he wears his magic pads...
Substitute pads for pants and you may be onto something...
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I can't stop singing the Tuanzebe one to Lip up Fatty.
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I can't stop singing the Tuanzebe one to Lip up Fatty.
Same here, keep annoying everyone at work with it.
He's running to the Holte End, he's lightning on his feet
Everybody's dancing to the Tuanzebe beat
Tuanzebe a Tuanzebe Tuanzebe zebe zebe!
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"The Mighty McGinn": To the tune of "The Mighty Quinn" (Dylan/Manfred Mann - showing my vintage here!)
"He gets the ball out
He gets the ball in
You'll never beat (or 'You've not seen nothing like...')
The Mighty McGinn!"
(I'll get me parka with the astrakhan collar...)
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"The Mighty McGinn": To the tune of "The Mighty Quinn" (Dylan/Manfred Mann - showing my vintage here!)
"He gets the ball out
He gets the ball in
You'll never beat (or 'You've not seen nothing like...')
The Mighty McGinn!"
(I'll get me parka with the astrakhan collar...)
Great minds think alike, I was thinking something similar the other day. Great tune.
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Time to ditch Allez Allez at the end of this season. Everyone else is singing it.
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Time to ditch Allez Allez at the end of this season. Everyone else is singing it.
I notice that both our vowel-loving cousins from north-west of Birmingham are singing it. The trouble is that most of our lot have just learned all the words (I am not a regular at our matches so it's really none of my business) . Didn't we rob it from Liverpool anyway? I guess it doesn't matter in the scheme of things.
There was a bloke standing in front of me away at Brentford who'd saved the words onto his phone . I suppose there's nothing wrong with that, but there sort of is a bit.
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I’m not one to criticise really. I still don’t know the words to the John McGinn song
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Liverpool started their version last year, it's been sung by loads of Italian clubs as well as other clubs around Europe for years.
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Liverpool started their version last year, it's been sung by loads of Italian clubs as well as other clubs around Europe for years.
Some French people too, I'd imagine.
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It all started in Italy.
This is the original song
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And for anyone sad enough to be interested, Porto picked up on it. And after the below video so did clubs in Germany. And eventually Liverpool.
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It all started in Italy.
This is the original song
Is that Kajagoogoo? The sax player from UB40 is a Villa fan; we could get him in to conduct the Holte. At least it isn't achy breaky heart, which is now used for the John McGinn song. Just don't think you understand.
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Biggest disappointment of spending so many years down here in the Championship, our songs are still shit.
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They're a lot better than they were. I remember at one stage 90% of our songs were telling our players that there was only one of them. The absolute nadir was "there's only one Steve Davis".
FFS.
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They're a lot better than they were. I remember at one stage 90% of our songs were telling our players that there was only one of them. The absolute nadir was "there's only one Steve Davis".
FFS.
Yeah there definitely seems to be a better repertoire of songs this season.
We just need a song for Deano now!
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They're a lot better than they were. I remember at one stage 90% of our songs were telling our players that there was only one of them. The absolute nadir was "there's only one Steve Davis".
FFS.
Yeah there definitely seems to be a better repertoire of songs this season.
We just need a song for Deano now!
Deano is at the wheel...
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And for anyone sad enough to be interested, Porto picked up on it. And after the below video so did clubs in Germany. And eventually Liverpool.
God, I wish we sung it like that! Far better than the scouse version
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How about this for a version of the Ryder Cup tommy Fleetwood/Molinari chant:
Villa, we are Villa
Aston Villa
We are Aston Villa...
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TBAR.
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TBAR.
Great forum, the halcyon days of the god-like 'Admin' were a thing to behold.
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TBAR.
Great forum, the halcyon days of the god-like 'Admin' were a thing to behold.
They were a bunch of nutters with their stalking of Randy at that restaurant.
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And for anyone sad enough to be interested, Porto picked up on it. And after the below video so did clubs in Germany. And eventually Liverpool.
God, I wish we sung it like that! Far better than the scouse version
Nah, the acoustics of that station helped them a lot there.
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Vindaloo
A team of John Carews
Carew is on fire
Not going to dispute it, bud, but, have to say I don't remember singing or hearing any of them.
I do remember there were a couple of different versions of 'Bigger than me and you' (lap dance being one)
I always liked Carew is on fire best.
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TBAR.
Great forum, the halcyon days of the god-like 'Admin' were a thing to behold.
They were a bunch of nutters with their stalking of Randy at that restaurant.
I got the premise of the forum but the admin was an absolute screamer. Utter embarrasment of a reveal if i recall.
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TBAR.
Great forum, the halcyon days of the god-like 'Admin' were a thing to behold.
They were a bunch of nutters with their stalking of Randy at that restaurant.
I got the premise of the forum but the admin was an absolute screamer. Utter embarrasment of a reveal if i recall.
Is it still going? Last I heard it was like a morgue in there.
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Still going. The combined thread for yesterday's game has 17 posts.
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Still going. The combined thread for yesterday's game has 17 posts.
Well at least Eastie is on first name terms with everyone.
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Stan Collymore on Twitter (I know) is bemoaning a song we sing about Tammy with racial undertones. I do not have the first clue what song this is. Has anybody heard it? Is it as bad as it’s being made out?
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I've only ever known, heard and sang the "Ooooh Tammy, Tammy" one.
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Original is Black Betty.
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It’s not as bad as is being made out, but it definitely jars more than a little.
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Original is Black Betty.
Yes, and the first time I heard this song used as a football chant was when WBA fans sung it about Cyril Regis when BFR was their manager. Funny old game.
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It sounds nothing like Black Betty :o
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My memory is so bad I have put the words of our Albion song into my phone.
In the run up to our most recent winning of the FA Cup the Meaning Evil tried to jump on the glory bandwagon. They punted a Villa song to the tune of "Tipperary". The pathetic effort attempted to list past victories resulting in the mangling of lines like
It's a long way to go to Wembley
It's a long way to go
Goodbye Bristol City
Farewell Middlesbro'
I clearly recall thousands of Meaning Evil songsheets dumped in the gutters of Trinity Rd.
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It sounds nothing like Black Betty :o
I don’t know what song you have heard but it sounds exactly like Black Betty. That is the main defence for it really - it scans really well!
Tbf - the word ‘black’ in this chant is in no way being used as an insult, and the clear intent of the people involved was to try and create an original chant for a player they love, but it’s just uncomfortable, weird, and one for the bin.
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I can see why some people might be uncomfortable with it but like Amfy suggets, I dont think there is any malice or racial intent in it at all. It just fits with the song.
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‘I’m dreaming of a white Grealish’ kinda fits too
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I can see why some people might be uncomfortable with it but like Amfy suggets, I dont think there is any malice or racial intent in it at all. It just fits with the song.
I'm not sure it particularly matters if there is malice or not, but of course there is racial intent to the song. Similar to the Yids chants at spurs, it doesn't have to be malicious to be problematic. As with the Danny Baker issue, I'd be more interested in hearing the views of people of colour on this.
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It was 5 blokes singing it in a pub, but the way that throbber Collymore has been banging on about it, you’d have thought all 40,000 Villa fans at the game on Saturday were singing it all game. It’s a poor choice of song, but he’s given it way more exposure than it would otherwise have had.
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The problem Stan has was that everyone on the original post was banging on at him for a response - making out he’d stay quiet or make excuses because it was Villa.
I think he has gone over the top in his response - but then I am not black so how would I know?
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It was 5 blokes singing it in a pub, but the way that throbber Collymore has been banging on about it, you’d have thought all 40,000 Villa fans at the game on Saturday were singing it all game. It’s a poor choice of song, but he’s given it way more exposure than it would otherwise have had.
I am sure you have seen the clip?
There are also little kids sat around that pub clapping along (it’s difficult to see if they were singing). It’s not a great example to set.
Belting out ‘woah black Tammy.....’ does not sit well with me.
Why not something like ‘whoa our Tammy.....’ that would have fitted just as well.
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It was 5 blokes singing it in a pub, but the way that throbber Collymore has been banging on about it, you’d have thought all 40,000 Villa fans at the game on Saturday were singing it all game. It’s a poor choice of song, but he’s given it way more exposure than it would otherwise have had.
I am sure you have seen the clip?
There are also little kids sat around that pub clapping along (it’s difficult to see if they were singing). It’s not a great example to set.
Belting out ‘woah black Tammy.....’ does not sit well with me.
Why not something like ‘whoa our Tammy.....’ that would have fitted just as well.
It doesn't sit right with me either, but unfortunately I reckon Stan doing his usual ranting, over-the-top stuff about it, is making it more likely that people will sing it, not less. I hadn't seen the clip until he mentioned it, but now my Twitter timeline is full of it.
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It's fucking daft if they are singing that in this day and age. It would just about work with "Woah Tammy Tammy" if they want to use that tune.
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As with every other club, we have some utter morons following us.
I think it's a shit thing to sing.
Been reading this debate on twitter.
https://mobile.twitter.com/CianByNature/status/1127663337041465344
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It sounds nothing like Black Betty :o
I don’t know what song you have heard but it sounds exactly like Black Betty. That is the main defence for it really - it scans really well!
Tbf - the word ‘black’ in this chant is in no way being used as an insult, and the clear intent of the people involved was to try and create an original chant for a player they love, but it’s just uncomfortable, weird, and one for the bin.
Apologies for quoting myself...
I've only ever known, heard and sang the "Ooooh Tammy, Tammy" one.
I wasn't aware that there was another song and still haven't heard it. There is clearly a racial undertone without being racist, however it is all rather unnecessary to mention the colour of his skin if they have adopted but not adapted the lyrics.
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Sweet Caroline...from "the hands part" - I've been singing it all afternoon, on my own.
Paul McGrath, Mellberg too,
Super Jack, John McGinn, John Carew...
Sweet Caroline,
Fuck the Blues,
Good times never seemed so good, so good, so good,