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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on December 01, 2018, 07:14:48 PM
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Long live the current Dean Smith revolution.
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Brilliant performance.
We have a team.
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That idiot Nyland chucking in three corners in injury time......
Just making sure!
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So comfortable. Eleven geniuses in Villa tops tonight. Didn't expect it after Wednesday but just fantastic.
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Villa goal machine!
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Simply outstanding. Two big away games against promotion rivals and we’ve battered both. Playing with no fear at all. It’s exactly how Smith had Brentford playing. Now he has much better toys to play with. Sort the defence and this is going to a very enjoyable second half to the season.
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That is how you dismantle a supposedly decent side away from home. The gulf in class between us and them was embarrassing for them.
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Gone from making bad teams look good to good teams (based on their league position, at least) look bad.
That'll do.
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Marvellous. We have our Villa back.
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Championship - be afraid, be very afraid.
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Getting the same feeling as 80/81 .The momentum is with us and I want to go to every match.
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Completely assured, if wed have had Smith since the start of the season wed be top I'm convinced of it. Really, really good performance.
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Brilliant
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Brilliant performance, well done Villa.
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Can't really fault that performance. Just brilliant.
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This isn't just getting the Villa back; it's like getting the 76-77 version of the Villa back. I fancy us to score a hat-full against anyone. Even if the FA Cup third round draw sends us to the Etihad I'd fancy us to get a couple.
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If we are anywhere near 40 points by the turn of the year I'd fancy us for automatic.
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Perfect. Literally 10/10
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Championship - be afraid, be very afraid.
Yes a statement has been made.
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Well chaps goodnight from me. I’ll catch up on the post match thread in a few hours.
Up the Villa
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Completely assured, if wed have had Smith since the start of the season wed be top I'm convinced of it. Really, really good performance.
100%, Its not even up for debate.
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Second highest scorers in the league!
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Great to have a clean sheet after Wednesday's pub team defending against Forest (entertaining though that game was).
All sets us up nicely for the Albion game!
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Well chaps goodnight from me. I’ll catch up on the post match thread in a few hours.
Up the Villa
Sweet dreams!
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Completely assured, if wed have had Smith since the start of the season wed be top I'm convinced of it. Really, really good performance.
Agreed, but we got him now that’s the main thing
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We didn't always take the right option when we had players in good attacking positions.
So even from an attacking point of view we can improve - which is quite scary.
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Get the chuff in. That was as close to the perfect away performance as you''ll see.
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Just give us the fucking trophy.
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Statement win.
Statement performance.
At 2-0 up, I still had the fear we'd somehow Villa it up; performances like this are slowly but surely diminishing that fear.
And at a slight tangent, it just shows what a difference management, coaching and tactics makes to players, and we should always be careful when label players as simply "shit". Neil Taylor, for example, was excellent today.
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This club is fun again.
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What a joy to watch.
We'll be top scorers come Friday.
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We look like the team that controls the game for once....and the "shit half, good half" tag has vanished for the time being.
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when did we last score 39 goals by the first week in December? How negative were Boro? Right from first minute they sat off us. No pressure on us at all.
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That must be the best team performance in the Championship this season.
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Derby and Middlesborough are good Championship teams that will be up there, weve fucking smashed both of them in there own back yard.
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For a solid team performance, this one is right up there.
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Well chaps goodnight from me. I’ll catch up on the post match thread in a few hours.
Up the Villa
On holiday TV? Enjoy the rest of your day it's always sweeter after a Villa win.
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What a fantastic performance & result AGAIN. 8)
Thank you Deano for giving us a team we can - at long last - be proud of.
UTV!
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The look on Pulis' face towards the end was priceless.
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There is no point saying how good that was because we all know.
A(nother) really impressive thing for me is our fitness levels.
To play 3 games this week of the type and intensity we have and to turn in a performance like tonight is just incredible.
Credit to Nyland for that wonder save at 2-0. It might have been twitchy bum time had completely undeservedly nicked one.
I am not Hourihane’ biggest fan but he was excellent tonight.
Not particularly happy we only scored 3 and if this is the best Deano can muster up then he doesn’t deserve to have his balls stroked by anyone.
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Perfect. Literally 10/10
Not even a yellow card
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Just give us the fucking trophy.
Words I shall be uttering 8ish Monday night, too.
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A very professional performance. We didn't look in any danger at all. Lovely stuff.
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Liam Rosenior telling it like it is now on Sky.
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As an aside, I bloody love Liam Rosenior.
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Highlights (https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/11569185/middlesbrough-0-3-aston-villa)
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Liam Rosenior telling it like it is now on Sky.
He really is excellent isn’t he.
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Cracking result from the Villa boys! Another 3 goals another win and really pleased with the clean sheet. Congrats to all Dean Smith's Claret and Blue army!
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What was most pleasing today was that, whilst I still don’t think out defence would cope well with sustained pressure, they looked calm & competent when called upon.
It was a really good all round team performance.
Also - watching Dean Smith at the end you could really see home enjoying the moment - as a manager and as a fan.
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That was a spanking performance. Tactically perfect.
Third in the league and we went there and dominated.
I'm just so pleased Dean Smith and his coaching team are here now. We literally have nothing to fear.
Bring on Smethwick.
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Is Dean Smith the new Sir Ron Saunders. I fuckin hope so.
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What a fantastic performance from start to finish. What was especially great was that some of the players who are less consistent/effective played very well - Hourihane, El Ghazi, Taylor and Hogan when he came on. Chester back to his best too - noticed how he seemed more intent on attacking the high ball with Tuanzebe sitting in behind to use his pace if needed. Wonder save from Nyland as well.
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Well chaps goodnight from me. I’ll catch up on the post match thread in a few hours.
Up the Villa
Sweet dreams!
Are made of this.
Great performance. Big shout out to the defense, a clean sheet after Wednesday, confidence must have been low.
Big shout to El Ghazi also, not many chances so far but I thought he did really well.
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Set pieces are quite innovative too. Long gone are the days where it was all about long crosses into the box.
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Set pieces are quite innovative too. Long gone are the days where it was all about long crosses into the box.
Agreed, we caught them out numerous times today with our varied corners.
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Got to say even Hogan looked like a worldie when he came on
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Liam Rosenior telling it like it is now on Sky.
He really is excellent isn’t he.
He’s a breath of fresh air.
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They were all great but a special mention for El Ghazi who was not only composed and threatening, he won the ball back a fair few times as well.
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They were all great but a special mention for El Ghazi who was not only composed and threatening, he won the ball back a fair few times as well.
Yes his off the ball work was outstanding
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Bolasie was good too. We actually protected the back four tonight as well which I think was our downfall on Wednesday. Absolutely buzzing right now.
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Fucking hell, they just showed Whelan laughing after his goal.
I didn’t know he had any teeth.
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the movement has changed 100%
same players looking completely different players
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Our lad doesn't have Sky and we're babysitting so I couldn't go to the pub to watch it even though I don't like watching us on TV though Dean Smith is beginning to change my mind a bit. The highlights won't load either, keeps buffering, grr!
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Tremendous, brilliant and fantastic. Villa you are a joy, thanks Dean.
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They were all great but a special mention for El Ghazi who was not only composed and threatening, he won the ball back a fair few times as well.
Well said - well impressed with El Ghazi tonight. That said they were all impressive. Great performance, great result now bring on the Stripy Filth.
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That’s a proper result, and performance.
I love this Dean Smith Villa team.
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What the fucking fuck is Smith doing?
Only 3 tonight, shite performance.
Things are slipping.
(For American readers, this is irony).
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El G was my motm for his relentless work rate and fabulous contribution in both directions.
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The complete transformation of this team from what we were watching a couple of months ago, with the same players is quite astounding.
Hoofball ? whack and hope ? What the fuck was all that?.
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Superb team performance from the whole team. The subs also played their part when they came on. I'm getting quite excited with these performances, we controlled the game from start to finish.
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The Boro fans aren't happy. https://www.oneboro.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=9083&page=21
I feel sorry for them, they're saying exactly the same things we did when we were lumbered with Bruce. I hope they don't sack Pulis and bring Jokanovic in.
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Pulis very complimentary about us.
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It's quite remarkable the change since Bruce went and Dean Smith came in. Same players, different everything.
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It's quite remarkable the change since Bruce went and Dean Smith came in. Same players, different everything.
We’ve been eating offal for years, suddenly we’re eating filet mignon and it’s delicious.
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It's quite remarkable the change since Bruce went and Dean Smith came in. Same players, different everything.
76/77 team all over again. Scoring for fun. Haven’t enjoyed it this much since the 09 team under MON. Superb.
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Great win, thoroughly dominated from the first minute. Huge credit to the manager, El Ghazi was brilliant and the likes of Hourihane vastly improved from earlier in the week. I thought our midfield was far too attacking especially after conceding five earlier in the week, but Smith kept faith and we passed them off the pitch. Wide two destroyed their awful full backs, likes of Besic and Howson couldn't get close to our midfield.
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It's quite remarkable the change since Bruce went and Dean Smith came in. Same players, different everything.
We’ve been eating offal for years, suddenly we’re eating filet mignon and it’s delicious.
I like offal - lambs hearts, hmmm...
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Liam Rosenior talking like we are Barcelona.
I fucking love it.
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Rosenior is really good.
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Liam Rosenior talking like we are Barcelona.
I fucking love it.
I love hearing him talking about us.
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Well, Brucie didn't leave us with any defensive options but the attacking players he signed certainly appreciate being creatively sandblasted by a manager who goes for it.
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Rosenior is a good pundit isn’t he
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Two ex-Pulis players scoring too. Ouch, bet that hurt.
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Well, Brucie didn't leave us with any defensive options but the attacking players he signed certainly appreciate being creatively sandblasted by a manager who goes for it.
It's all gone remarkably quiet on the Brucie front since he left!
Wouldn't be this quiet if we'd lost a few I'm sure.
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Blimey. We are good.
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Well, Brucie didn't leave us with any defensive options but the attacking players he signed certainly appreciate being creatively sandblasted by a manager who goes for it.
It's all gone remarkably quiet on the Brucie front since he left!
Wouldn't be this quiet if we'd lost a few I'm sure.
I'm waiting for him or his media mates to say how he left Deano with a good squad and how he would have turned it round if he had been given enough time.
But anyway,this is exciting.
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Bruce has gone lads, let it go, enjoy what's in front of you, it's been a long time coming.
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Great overall team performance. The first 25 minutes was a pleasure to watch, so much movement, it was like we had an extra player and that always seemed to happen against us under the last regime. Special mention to El Ghazi, I thought he was excellent, tidy on the ball, and tracked back and put a foot in too.
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I love this from the Boro fans forum.
Villa look so much better than us. Quicker, sharper, more direct, far better at passing, stronger at pressing and forcing mistakes, winning all the 50/50 balls. There's a real gulf in class here.
It doesn't say much for our promotion prospects when we're being comprehensively outplayed by a team not even in the play-off positions.
UTV
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With the run we are on I can’t believe we are still 3 points outside the playoffs. My God where would we be if we didn’t have Deano!
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I look forward to Bruce saying how he brought together the league winners.
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I would like to add my admiration of Liam Rosenior as a pundit to the previous praise for him on here. Even if his Dad did do his best to relegate us with those couple of goals at Forest in 1989.
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So what is this happy new sport we've taken up?
Finally we have a fucking management team with a clue! An exciting, swaggering Villa team, fearless and well drilled. Coached and inspired, allowed to play, to be creative. This recent run has had some real sit-up-and-take-notice results. Kudos and respect to Dean Smith.
I loved how we varied things today, each free kick and corner had something completely different. It must be so hard to live with that defensively.
Tuanzebe did really well bringing the ball out of defence. He was calm and un-panicked throughout.
El Ghazi and Bolasie were outstanding for me. Just constant threats.
Credit to Nyland - they wanted to target him with deep crosses but he held firm.
Also credit to Taylor who I haven't put a lot of stock in. Crazy the change a proper manager can have on a player. I hope he keeps improving and ends up loving his time at Villa.
Up the Villa! Bouncing tonight!
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Well, Brucie didn't leave us with any defensive options but the attacking players he signed certainly appreciate being creatively sandblasted by a manager who goes for it.
It's all gone remarkably quiet on the Brucie front since he left!
Wouldn't be this quiet if we'd lost a few I'm sure.
I'm waiting for him or his media mates to say how he left Deano with a good squad and how he would have turned it round if he had been given enough time.
But anyway,this is exciting.
Well I think the first part of that could be right at least...
We were brilliant against Derby in the second half but today we were excellent (and not in the Paul Lambert way) from start to finish, and I couldn't fault any of the players.
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Thought Tuanzebe was sublime today, reminded me of Southgate. Very comfortable on the ball coming forward, long, short passes and stepped up into the gap. Got my Brian Little book in the post today, perfect.
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Look at this for a thread title from an opposition fan:
http://forum.comeonboro.com/index.php?topic=134431.0
and this:
http://forum.comeonboro.com/index.php?topic=134428.0
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I would say Bruce left us with a decent squad but an unbalanced squad which Deano II needs to keep getting the best out of until January at least. Although we should thank Bruce for SJM and we might even be thanking him for our keeper too if he keeps improving. SGT once said that if you lose you should have at least lost because you tried to win. Which applies to Deano's Villa far more than it did with Bruce's safety first Villa.
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I would say Bruce left us with a decent squad but an unbalanced squad which Deano II needs to keep getting the best out of until January at least. Although we should thank Bruce for SJM and we might even be thanking him for our keeper too if he keeps improving. SGT once said that if you lose you should have at least lost because you tried to win. Which applies to Deano's Villa far more than it did with Bruce's safety first Villa.
Spot on Damo. It's why I refused to be pissed off about only drawing against Forest, as Smith's approach will sometimes lead to such games.
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Dead Smith had a dream!
To build a football team!
We were skint and signed Collins on a free
Chester at the back
Tammy in attack!
We're Aston Villa!
We're on our way back!
Back!
Back!
That was very, very good.
The negatives:
We didn't score 5 or 6 like we should have done
We need to.be careful when committing men forward not to leave gaps
Positives:
Utterly dominant.
We shielded the back four well and forced the hoof merchants to play in front of us.
Our movement and penetration is excellent.
Tammy is lethal, Hogan came on and was unrecognizable, El Ghazi looks a player.
Bolasie murdered Fry.
Hourihane played a lot better.
We've twatted two sides around us.
Nyland made a wonder save.
Believe.
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Same squad, same players but a different manager. Amazing transformation. I bet even the neutrals love watching us
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Can I get a bet on the 'Championship Player Of The Week Award'? I have a sneaky feeling I know who it might be.
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The only downside I can imagine from such a dominant thoroughly brilliant display at the end of a tough week of superb front-foot football is that we can kiss goodbye to Saturday 3pm kick offs for 2019 as sky will be all over us.
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That was a near perfect performance, against a team who's 'style' I expected to cause us problems. It a simple game, keep the ball, pass, move & get players forward.
As i said on the match thread the contrast with what Bruce got out of that team & what Smith has to date couldn't be clearer.
Its still early days but we're putting together a team to be proud if & long may it continue.
Roll on Friday..... UTV
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First time poster.
That is exactly what I’d expect us to be in the Championship. Not scared of anyone. Taken it to them in their own backyard and smashed them.
RIP dinosaur football. Welcome to the revolution.
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There can't be many teams who have ever conceded seven goals in a week and picked up seven points.
Give Smith a couple of defenders in January, and there's no limit to this season's ambitions.
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OS post-match interview https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1068966329917587458
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Bruce has gone lads, let it go, enjoy what's in front of you, it's been a long time coming.
your right of course
but it's difficult with every passing game which highlights just how mega shit he actually was
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I love going to Boro ‘cos it means I can get home within an hour!
The team was great tonight: calm, confident and largely expansive. 5-0 wouldn’t have been flattering.
I thought El G was excellent - what a change in this player!
Taylor, Elmo, Tuanzebe - all played well.
Bolasie did okay, but he ain’t that quick and runs out of stamina fairly quickly.
Hogan made the 3rd goal, with a great little run into the box.
When Grealish and Hourihane start releasing the ball forward a little earlier, we will be very difficult to defend against.
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My daughter who is now 21 and I have been taking up to villa park since she was 5 said to me tonight.....dad is this like the old days you keep on about.
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Tell her it was ABM
Absolutely Bloody Marvellous ;D
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Tonight Boro reminded me of Villa under Bruce when we played Brentford a few times and got spanked. Pullis must also subscribe to the Bruce School of pre match planning as he clearly didn't take any notice of Hourane's struggle's against Forrest with pressure but on him and midfield runners and set up a team to sit back and allowed Conner space and time on the ball to pass it around.
What noticeable to me is that Smith has got the team less reliant on Grealish which means when teams double up on him space is created and taken advantage of by others.For years now watching us it seemed at times we were playing with 10 men as other teams always seemed to have more options on the pitch tonight we made Boro look like they had less players as we always had options to pass too in space
Great performance ..onto the next
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Tell her it was ABM
Absolutely Bloody Marvellous ;D
The excitement is alien to her.
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I wonder if on the Boro sites tonight they are banging on about 'stability' and Pulis's past record
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Dean Sky post-match interview (https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11569216/smith)
Dean Smith WM https://audioboom.com/posts/7104571-dean-smith-on-the-3-0-win-at-middlesbrough
Pulis Sky post-match interview (https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11569244/pulis-we-were-beaten-by-the-better-side)
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Tell her it was ABM
Absolutely Bloody Marvellous ;D
The excitement is alien to her.
I think Deano’s changing all expectations.
Excitement has been alien for all of us for so long.
Tell her to hang on for the ride!
Edit I mean like an F1 ride, obv.
Not a roller coaster.
Or a constipated submarine.
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It looked so effortless. We had blokes just seemingly standing around waiting for a pass.
It really is a simple game.
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My daughter who is now 21 and I have been taking up to villa park since she was 5 said to me tonight.....dad is this like the old days you keep on about.
If only we had a ‘like’ button 👍
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It's quite remarkable the change since Bruce went and Dean Smith came in. Same players, different everything.
We’ve been eating offal for years, suddenly we’re eating filet mignon and it’s delicious.
I'm having a doner kebab and chips. Even that tastes better tonight for some reason
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Smith seems to have brought a lot of changes but I can't get over the improvement in fitness - seems a remarkable transformation.
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Having the ball most of the time rather than chasing after it like a hyper puppy on speed makes a difference to stamina. We control most of the games we play now.
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Smith seems to have brought a lot of changes but I can't get over the improvement in fitness - seems a remarkable transformation.
I’ve always said though that players who are performing well always look fitter than ones that aren’t
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Liam Rosenior talking like we are Barcelona.
I fucking love it.
When we first appointed Smith, the Sky Sunday Supplement was talking about it. One of them (not sure who) said he had been gushing about the way Bielsas Leeds had been playing and someone in the office told him if he thought that was good, he needs to look at the way Smith's Brentford plays.
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Just watched the highlights on that Quest EFL show. Holloway thinks we didn't like Bruce because he used to manage Bloose. Nothing to do with shit football and the complete transformation of the same group of players under Deano of course. How does that idiot still get employment
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I feel honoured. We have our own thread on SHA forum: Headed "Vile" They're grudgingly admitting that we're a class above this league and going up. Have a read on their site......
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I feel honoured. We have our own thread on SHA forum: Headed "Vile" They're grudgingly admitting that we're a class above this league and going up. Have a read on their site......
It's their No.1 thread on a day they've won 3-0.
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I feel honoured. We have our own thread on SHA forum: Headed "Vile" They're grudgingly admitting that we're a class above this league and going up. Have a read on their site......
I'm afraid I can't go on that site as it's against my religion but if you could post any comments then I am sure they would brighten up even a brilliant night.
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My daughter who is now 21 and I have been taking up to villa park since she was 5 said to me tonight.....dad is this like the old days you keep on about.
That's brilliant.
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"I don't ask for the meaning of the song of a bird or the rising of the sun on a misty morning or beating Boro 3-0 away. There they are, and they are beautiful."
With apologies to Pete Hamill.
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My daughter who is now 21 and I have been taking up to villa park since she was 5 said to me tonight.....dad is this like the old days you keep on about.
That's brilliant.
Agree it is
I’ve been telling my 10 year old for as long as he’s been interested in Villa that it will get better
we will be back again one day
we will play football that you will want to watch one day
I didn’t know when that day would come until now
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This isn't just getting the Villa back; it's like getting the 76-77 version of the Villa back. I fancy us to score a hat-full against anyone. Even if the FA Cup third round draw sends us to the Etihad I'd fancy us to get a couple.
[/quoteThis isn't just getting the Villa back; it's like getting the 76-77 version of the Villa back. I fancy us to score a hat-full against anyone. Even if the FA Cup third round draw sends us to the Etihad I'd fancy us to get a couple.
Weird was just going thinking that during the game. We’d give anybody a run for their money these days. Actually looking forward to the FA cup for a change.
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A couple more performances like that and this season will start to have a feeling of inevitability about it, like a mirror image of 2016/17.
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That must be the best team performance in the Championship this season.
And I don’t even think we got out of second gear. The best thing guys is this is just the start after only a few games in charge.
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When we take a deserved lead I’ve finally stopped thinking it’s all about to go tits up. Exciting times. The clubs above us must be getting very worried and they should be.
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That must be the best team performance in the Championship this season.
And I don’t even think we got out of second gear. The best thing guys is this is just the start after only a few games in charge.
Have to say not sure in second gear, but totally agree there are better things to come with this manager in charge. Loved the reaction of Kelly and Terry as well, we are a real team and great to hear Deano praising the attitude of Glenn Whelan as well. He really seems to know what he is doing
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I often like to write my own view and comment however scrolling through these comments I find mostly everything has been covered and I would be echoing the sentiment
It's all such positivity after that Excellent performance and result!
Points to add:
A clean sheet =super!
A shout out to Chester who really excelled as a set piece attacker and deserves his goal
Elmohamedy coming in and doing his job at right back seamlessly
And of course !!!
The main thing to add is recognising Glen Whelan scored ! take a bow!!
All the players congratulated him and he was just loving it all!
So happy for him a great occasion for him to have a goal against his Irish team mate Randolph !
Up the villa !
Buzzin
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Pleasure to watch yet again!
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The great thing about tonight, as with all good teams, is that it all seemed so easy. Always a man in space for a pass, no-one ever getting caught in possession, three men ready to put the ball in for the second goal. Great to watch. We defended a hell of a lot better than Wednesday. OK Nyland had his customary high ball fumble, but what a great save at 2-0 when things could have got edgy. It felt comfortable all the way through against a team that's let in 10 goals all season. Long may it continue.
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We were superb tonight.
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Ah good morning all. Love reading the post match thread after we’ve doled out a battering to some poor saps and especially a Tiny Penis one. Anyway, I saw what you all saw. What I love most is that instead of basking in the glory of the win, Dean will have already been working for weeks on Albion and this week after a couple of days off for the players implementing a specific game plan for them.
The players must be feeling 10ft tall right now. They were asked to buy into a new way playing, of thinking and critically of preparing. They are now all seeing for themselves how well this comes together. Their belief in each other and of the manager must be sky high. Love Dean Smith.
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The Villa are good at the moment.
Keep it up please.
💜💙
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Hang on, we scored 3 v Derby, 4 v Blues, 5 v Forest and your'e happy with 3 v Borough. it was meant to be 6.
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The moment when tiny penis realised his pants had been well and truly pulled down was great. Shaking his head and getting his excuses ready at 3 nil. Wonderful!
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Another fantastic performance. It's a total transformation in a matter of weeks, and exciting to watch. I'm staggered at how we could have been so bad under Bruce, and so good now. Long may it last.
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What a performance!
To go away to that cold, desolate wasteland and pull off a commanding performance is the stuff of a booze fuelled hazy dream. Don’t wake me up because the football is fabulous, the expectations are enormous, the players are playing, the squad looks amazing in depth and the teams above us will be fearing us.
I’ve heard some shite that if that blues player had made it 2-0 we wouldn’t have come back - bollucks! We were 2-1, 3-2, 4-3 down and kept coming back.
Camera cut to the baggies manager whose glazed expression said to me he’ll put 10 behind the ball.
Special mention to El Gazi who in 2 games looks a live wire!
Can’t wait for the Baggies match.
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Hang on, we scored 3 v Derby, 4 v Blues, 5 v Forest and your'e happy with 3 v Borough. it was meant to be 6.
Get rid I say.
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Brilliant, just brilliant. Finally got my Villa back.
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I've just been perusing that lot.com, and in particular their Villa match thread (they seem to have one for every match we play).
It's worth a look. There's some begrudging praise there. Days like today must be fucking awful (I say 'must be' because I'm only 50, so I've never actually experienced a situation where Blues are significantly better than us for any period of time).
https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2595192,page=1
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First time poster.
That is exactly what I’d expect us to be in the Championship. Not scared of anyone. Taken it to them in their own backyard and smashed them.
RIP dinosaur football. Welcome to the revolution.
Welcome to the Forum.
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Look at this for a thread title from an opposition fan:
http://forum.comeonboro.com/index.php?topic=134431.0
and this:
http://forum.comeonboro.com/index.php?topic=134428.0
I must say that Boro fans are very balanced and fair. I looked at ONEBORO and it was similar.
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This isn't just getting the Villa back; it's like getting the 76-77 version of the Villa back. I fancy us to score a hat-full against anyone. Even if the FA Cup third round draw sends us to the Etihad I'd fancy us to get a couple.
Beware even that team had hiccups
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Gone from making bad teams look good to good teams (based on their league position, at least) look bad.
That'll do.
This completely, did we really draw against ten man Ipswich ? Or draw against Preston and Reading at home ? You couldn’t imagine that right now, thank you Dean and back room team for actually coaching our players.Onwards and upwards.
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I've just been perusing that lot.com, and in particular their Villa match thread (they seem to have one for every match we play).
It's worth a look. There's some begrudging praise there. Days like today must be fucking awful (I say 'must be' because I'm only 50, so I've never actually experienced a situation where Blues are significantly better than us for any period of time).
https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2595192,page=1
It's lovely, I urge any of you to take a look. They've won two convincingly since last Sunday and still all that matters is us.
I reckon with the TV audience more noses were watching us live tonight than their own team.
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Great win tonight. Much nicer being a Villa fan under Dean Smith. At times against Boro, it was too easy. Hopefully, we don't get too arrogant and carried away, we are not Wolves fans after all. Please don't let this be a temporary thing. It's been magic watching us recently.
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Gone from making bad teams look good to good teams (based on their league position, at least) look bad.
That'll do.
This completely, did we really draw against ten man Ipswich ? Or draw against Preston and Reading at home ? You couldn’t imagine that right now, thank you Dean and back room team for actually coaching our players.Onwards and upwards.
Still work to do though: remember we only drew against a 10 man Forest last Wednesday...
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Just come in , see the vile won tonight
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I feel honoured. We have our own thread on SHA forum: Headed "Vile" They're grudgingly admitting that we're a class above this league and going up. Have a read on their site......
It's their No.1 thread on a day they've won 3-0.
Bless their obsessed hearts.
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Sky commentator 'Aston Villa have bought their show to Teeside and Middlesborough reluctantly have front row seats.' Superb.
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All we had to do to be good was sack Steve Bruce apparently. Who knew?
(A few might have said)
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Hang on, we scored 3 v Derby, 4 v Blues, 5 v Forest and your'e happy with 3 v Borough. it was meant to be 6.
Get rid I say.
I'm spraying on my pillow sheet!!!
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All we had to do to be good was sack Steve Bruce apparently. Who knew?
(A few might have said)
As much as I wanted him gone, and believe me I really did right after the playoff final, I still also get why in the end he was kept on. That said I think they got rid of him in time. A game or two sooner would have been nicer, but things happen for a reason. We can now sees light. It’s very bright and very appealing.
Dean Smith, Aston Villa fan, manager of the club he loves, and bloody ace at his job has a nice sound to it.
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All we had to do to be good was sack Steve Bruce apparently. Who knew?
(A few might have said)
That's not quite right though, is it?
We could have employed Pards or one of the other Sultans of Ming and spent the rest of the season making excuses.
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I may be biased but Liam Rosenior is a wonderful pundit.
And
Aston Villa are playing some wonderful exciting football under the guidance of Dean Smith
UTV
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Excellent performance. Feeling very happy about our beloved Villa. I thought every player played well.
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Its fast becoming apparent that Glenn Whelan missing the penalty against Preston is probably his finest achievement
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Glen Whelan will be the book-end of ten years of purgatory... the last minute equaliser for Stoke and missing that penalty.
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Put my hands up and admit with me it was wait and see with Smith but he has me convinced that had he been managing us last season we would have been promoter automatically. It is telling that Pulis and Bruce are very similar in footballing outlook and this game told the story. There was not one player that didn't play a part today so much so that Jack wasn't a stand out. I envy all those that can get to the baggies game the atmosphere will be electric.
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I thought I'd see what Boro fans are saying
The top post on this thread is brilliant
https://www.oneboro.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=9083
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That must be the best team performance in the Championship this season.
Were all obviously biased. But I was watching thinking that any neutral must be thinking this
Leeds 4-1 win at derby was meant to be pretty special too
But for a third game in six days, given the nature of the other games. Just fantastic
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this time last year we were fifth with 36 points, eight behind Wolves in top. Interestingly, Fulham were 15th, ten points behind us.
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It's all about momentum Mr U.
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I thought I'd see what Boro fans are saying
The top post on this thread is brilliant
https://www.oneboro.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=9083
That is superb.
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The really encouraging thing is that we've beaten Derby and Boro 3-0, both who have contrasting styles of play. West Brom will present a more Derby type of threat, yet they got turned over 4-1 at the Hawthorns not long ago. West Brom's defence lacks pace.
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Sky commentator 'Aston Villa have bought their show to Teeside and Middlesborough reluctantly have front row seats.' Superb.
Absolutely love that sound bite.
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Sky commentator 'Aston Villa have bought their show to Teeside and Middlesborough reluctantly have front row seats.' Superb.
Absolutely love that sound bite.
That Sky commentator loves us. He came out with some pearlers against Blues last week aswell, including one about Blues fearing the Holte End rising into the Birmingham sky. Bet that went down well.
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Its fast becoming apparent that Glenn Whelan missing the penalty against Preston is probably his finest achievement
Glen Whelan will be the book-end of ten years of purgatory... the last minute equaliser for Stoke and missing that penalty.
My word, you could be right.
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That first 30 minutes was sublime.
They couldn't get near us.
El Ghazi and Bolasie destroyed their full backs.
Albert could be struggling to get his starting place back.
Everyone was just great today.
A special mention to the defence today as they were all good.
Even Nyland made a great save getting the slightest touch on that shot that hit the bar.
It's amazing the difference in our players under Smith, the confidence is just oozing out of them.
"Dean Smith, he's one of our own"
Bring on the Baggies.
U T V
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Glen Whelan will be the book-end of ten years of purgatory... the last minute equaliser for Stoke and missing that penalty.
Good spot.
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BoroTv on YouTube well worth watching on YouTube, lots of reaction from their supporters outside after the match and one or two of ours too. Last season after the playoff first leg they were very bitter, last night they actually admit we annihilated them. Lots of anti Pulis stuff too. Well worth a watch.
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The really encouraging thing is that we've beaten Derby and Boro 3-0, both who have contrasting styles of play. West Brom will present a more Derby type of threat, yet they got turned over 4-1 at the Hawthorns not long ago. West Brom's defence lacks pace.
Music to my ears.
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BoroTv on YouTube well worth watching on YouTube, lots of reaction from their supporters outside after the match and one or two of ours too. Last season after the playoff first leg they were very bitter, last night they actually admit we annihilated them. Lots of anti Pulis stuff too. Well worth a watch.
This one is funny just a small team in Villa!
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I know a lot of people have mentioned Rosenior. Also like Danny Higinbotham as co-commentator. Knows the championship well as does a lot of tactical stuff that you might not notice.
Certainly better than Don Goodman.
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Thought it was a superb team performance. But, the biggest plus was El Ghazi thought he was outstanding last night. This is a player, on past appearances, I was only expecting to be on the subs bench, but he keeps this up, he's going play a major part in our fight for promotion.
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The pace and power we have out wide is frightening.
Bolasie and El Ghazi aren't just very quick, with quick feet and an ability to go inside or outside, with excellent delivery...they're actually big and power blokes too. Not easily knocked off the ball and pests harrying in defence.
That's what's pleasing, that we're not wide open becausebtheyre lazy wingers. They put the effort in the other way. Smith said Anwar is very smart and has absorbed a lot of tactical information this week and you could tell.
It's amazing what confidence and coaching can do. He looks lole a £10m winger.
Other things I noticed regarding Hogan. Cast your mind back to December and you may recall how isolated he was up on his own against Boro. Not necessarily his fault, but RHM showed more in his 15 minute cameo.
Yesterday Hogan instantly dropped off and got involved in link up play. I think having wide men and midfielders who hit the box helped, but he then went on a run, at pace and took on a man that created a chance.
It's only a minor thing, but it was a glimour.
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If Hogan gets his shit together, we've got an entire back up front line of Hogan, Kodjia and Adomah outside of last nights team that most of the rest of this division would kill for.
And that's without Keenan Davis who's just coming back from injury, a plyer I think will benefit massively from the new manager.
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Its nice being the Man city of the championship .
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I actually thought SJM and Jack were quiet today so just goes to show if they are marked tight we can hurt teams from over the pitch.
Thought Bolasie, Conor and El Ghazi were outstanding. Take a look at Tammys goal an absolute undefendable power cross into the box and there are 3 men to attack it.
As others have already said at times you thought they had 2 men less than us.
Cannot wait for Friday. Win or lose you know we will take the game to them.
Bring it on
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I know , I know
El Ghazi from behind had the look of Ronaldo.....
I know , Doctor send for the men in white coats
Its all this headiness that's got to me
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I'm glad somebody else said it first.
I think it's because he's so quick and big. 6'2"! Big for a winger.
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I know , I know
El Ghazi from behind had the look of Ronaldo.....
I know , Doctor send for the men in white coats
Its all this headiness that's got to me
Sod it, after what we've endured for years, it's nice to be handing out some proper thrashings and feeling positive. People occasionally used to say "we're overdue giving somebody a good tonking" under Bruce, it just never looked very likely.
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I know , I know
El Ghazi from behind had the look of Ronaldo.....
I know , Doctor send for the men in white coats
Its all this headiness that's got to me
I thought exactly the same, mate.
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I honestly can't remember the last time we lost up there.
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Haven't seen it mentioned but Chester's finish for his goal was beautiful - instinctive and graceful.
Tammy "sticking his long leg out" as Deano put it, is a majestic sight, as in the form that he's in, contact is almost certain to result in a goal.
Didn't get to see the game so just going on highlights but note that Hourihane got MotM - great to hear he was more visible and not poor off the ball as he often has been for us.
Also, Boro must have nearly conceded as many goals last night as they have all season at home? Bloody impressive for us to do that - funny how our record up there is so good yet we always play shite against them at VP. Would certainly expect that to change this season for the return game.
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never forget we owe Boro a big one for the class of 81 season
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I honestly can't remember the last time we lost up there.
Then, I think.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/4088011.stm
I think that was a week after the Blues home defeat
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All we had to do to be good was sack Steve Bruce apparently. Who knew?
(A few might have said)
As much as I wanted him gone, and believe me I really did right after the playoff final, I still also get why in the end he was kept on. That said I think they got rid of him in time. A game or two sooner would have been nicer, but things happen for a reason. We can now sees light. It’s very bright and very appealing.
Dean Smith, Aston Villa fan, manager of the club he loves, and bloody ace at his job has a nice sound to it.
I think the same but the Ipswich and Reading games in August told us the style would be exactly the same so probably grounds for sacking him around that time rather than give him September aswell.
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Apart from being an around fantastic performance, I thought the combination of both El Ghazi and Elmohamady on the right side was superb.
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A mention for Neil Taylor as well. Not everybody's cup of tea which is understandable but he's done ok lately I think.
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A mention for Neil Taylor as well. Not everybody's cup of tea which is understandable but he's done ok lately I think.
We are getting the Neil Taylor we expect to get. He’s not better than this so at times he’ll look quite decent, most of the times he’ll be bang average and at times you’ll think he’s not very good at all. He’s 5-7 out of 10 player capable of 4’s and once in a while an 8. He’s a back up and a somewhat reliable squad player.
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A mention for Neil Taylor as well. Not everybody's cup of tea which is understandable but he's done ok lately I think.
yes he has been steady of late
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Commentators made a point yesterday which is valid. With swansea and wales he was used to a possession based game so makes sense that he’s finding his feet.
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Extended Highlights (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwguYH5IRKg)
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Commentators made a point yesterday which is valid. With swansea and wales he was used to a possession based game so makes sense that he’s finding his feet.
The more we have the ball, the less he has to defend. I wonder how much the Coleman injury effected him too.
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Not as much as it affected Seamus and he's now back showing some form for Everton so come on Neil, crack-on.
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A mention for Neil Taylor as well. Not everybody's cup of tea which is understandable but he's done ok lately I think.
We are getting the Neil Taylor we expect to get. He’s not better than this so at times he’ll look quite decent, most of the times he’ll be bang average and at times you’ll think he’s not very good at all. He’s 5-7 out of 10 player capable of 4’s and once in a while an 8. He’s a back up and a somewhat reliable squad player.
I think that is a very good point.
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In addition to everything else, we've miraculously been able to consistently throw the ball to another Villa player. Something which seemed to be beyond the previous coaching & management teams.
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I'm glad somebody else said it first.
I think it's because he's so quick and big. 6'2"! Big for a winger.
I said the same thing yesterday! It's his stature / gait I think.
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I know , I know
El Ghazi from behind had the look of Ronaldo.....
I know , Doctor send for the men in white coats
Its all this headiness that's got to me
I said the other day his goal against Forrest reminded me of Ronaldo - just the control and no backlift. A daft comparison but I know what you mean
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The really encouraging thing is that we've beaten Derby and Boro 3-0, both who have contrasting styles of play. West Brom will present a more Derby type of threat, yet they got turned over 4-1 at the Hawthorns not long ago. West Brom's defence lacks pace.
Music to my ears.
The only thing that would be Music to my Ears where they are concerned is “Tonight’s headlines - West Bromwich Albion have gone into receivership” I’ve never forgiven the tossers for Alex Cropley and never will.
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Not as much as it affected Seamus and he's now back showing some form for Everton so come on Neil, crack-on.
If only Taylor was half the player Coleman is.
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Great to see us defending a one goal lead away from home and still ending up with three players inside their six-yard box for the second.
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Pulls predictably whinging post game about needing to strengthen in Jan up top. Any forward would struggle in his tactical straight jacket. Good to hear Rosenior call that out in the analysis. Assombolonga, Hughill, Gestede, Braithwaite, Downing, Saville....lot of wages going on that lot.
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I honestly can't remember the last time we lost up there.
Then, I think.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/4088011.stm
I think that was a week after the Blues home defeat
It was, there was only about 500-600 of us there and we played them off the park. It was the Matthieu Berson looks v v good game.
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And another thing. Who'd have thunk that we'd be this potent without it being all about Grealish? Threats left, right and centre. Honestly, it'd take a Dean Smith to come even close to working out how to stop us, and I ain't seeing another one out there.
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Glen Whelan will be the book-end of ten years of purgatory... the last minute equaliser for Stoke and missing that penalty.
I can still see Whelan score that goal in 09. Seem to recall us being 8 points ahead of Arsenal or something similar although they had a couple of games in hand. Carew scored a beauty that day
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A mention for Neil Taylor as well. Not everybody's cup of tea which is understandable but he's done ok lately I think.
yes he has been steady of late
Style of play helps as other teams are too busy trying to stop our wideman in front of him.
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Just watched the full game for the first time this afternoon (on the Boro site). The thing that really stands out is Dean Smith has got them playing as a team. As somebody mentioned earlier, it's no longer just give it to Jack to do something special. Every single one of them must play their part, attacking and defending as a team. A joy to watch.
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Glen Whelan will be the book-end of ten years of purgatory... the last minute equaliser for Stoke and missing that penalty.
I can still see Whelan score that goal in 09. Seem to recall us being 8 points ahead of Arsenal or something similar although they had a couple of games in hand. Carew scored a beauty that day
I think we would've gone 8 points clear if we'd held on to the lead.
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a BIG ask I grant ya, but if we keep a clean sheet we will win easily....3-0 Villa...if we keep a clean sheet that is
UTV
THe Doc
blimey I should of chucked a tenner on it :)
UTV
The Doc
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Great performance, all over the pitch. It goes to show that whoever was in charge of recruitment didn't do a bad job of picking the attacking players. The way we're playing at the moment just shows how far off the mark Smith's predecessor was. So concerned about failing that he didn't try and play. We may lose a few playing this way, but this is going to be one hell of a ride.
To think back in early June I half hoped we'd go under as I was sick to death of the shite we have had to put up with and I could go and find something else to do. Now it finally feels like we've got our Villa back and I'm enjoying thinking about football again; dreaming what might be.
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It’s changed how all of us now feel going into every single game. Before, we knew we’d probably have around 40% tops and maybe 3-5 shots on goal. Now it’s 60-75% possession and 15-20 shots on goal. Crazy to think of the magnitude of change in such a short space of time.
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There’ll be a few people, supporters of other teams, journos, fellow Villa supporters, shaking their heads after the last few weeks thinking: what the fuck is happening at Villa?
It’s just nice that it’s in a good way for a change, rather than us careering from a disaster to a nightmare.
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An absoulte brilliant performance by our Villa boys so proud of them we are not just beating teams we are blowing them away
long may it continue.
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What struck me was the incisive passing and crossing from wide positions, always on the floor to nulify their big lumps, and the switching of positions across the front three, clear tactics and coaching from a proper coaching team. A pleasure to watch us at the moment so long may it continue.
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Can't we leave these up until just before the next game? Feels a bit premature to shift it already.
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Post-Match threads will now be archived the day before the next match and not on the day the next Pre-Match thread is started.
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Cheers!
I'm still thrilled with the result!
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Glen Whelan will be the book-end of ten years of purgatory... the last minute equaliser for Stoke and missing that penalty.
I can still see Whelan score that goal in 09. Seem to recall us being 8 points ahead of Arsenal or something similar although they had a couple of games in hand. Carew scored a beauty that day
We would have been 8 pts clear if he hadn't equalized - and Arsenal had no games in hand.
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Post-Match threads will now be archived the day before the next match and not on the day the next Pre-Match thread is started.
A truly historic event. We do live in interesting times :)
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Unless perhaps when we lose in games we should have won and we all want to forget about it and move on.
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Post-Match threads will now be archived the day before the next match and not on the day the next Pre-Match thread is started.
Good decision, I always thought they disappear too quickly. I know people can still find them but any thread dies once it is moved.
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Post-Match threads will now be archived the day before the next match and not on the day the next Pre-Match thread is started.
Good decision, I always thought they disappear too quickly. I know people can still find them but any thread dies once it is moved.
For the last 10 years we've wanted to forget games as quickly as possible!
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What games?