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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on September 01, 2018, 04:44:48 PM
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What an utter fucking disaster. What does have to do to get fired? Time for these new owners to show their ruthlessness and get rid of this fucking charlatan. He’s embarrassed this club for long enough now. Going into the break fire his fat arse and use the time to find a replacement. This is only going to get much, much worse. I have no faith in him whatsoever.
Bruce OUT and quickly.
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Massive pile of Wank.
Played off the park by Sheffield for fucks sake.
Inept from the manager. Again.
Could easily have been 6 or 7 nil.
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Sheffield United won’t have an easier game this season
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Booooooooo
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I don’t expect him to be sacked. But I wouldn’t lose any sleep if he went. He cant get a tune out of his team and I long for some fluidity and style of play. We really needed to replace Terry and this will be our undoing until January.. Bruce Out
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Disgraceful and utterly predictable with our shambolic defence. We’ve had ridiculously kind fixtures and we look fucking diabolical. Right back at left back, appalling centre mid at centre half and a centre half at right back, fuck off.
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I’m glad I missed this. Maybe it’s time for a new manager.
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AVTV was excellent today. Unfortunately.
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The performances have been building to a result like this, we all know what and who the trouble is, now with a CEO in his post, he can see it too hopefully. Perfect time to get rid with a break coming up.
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By all means boo at the end but for the life of me I can see how chanting against the manager during the match, helps.
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Sack the twat.
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Crap.
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Come on Christian, you know what to do.
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Woefully unbalanced squad equaling an unbalanced line up. Too many players in the wrong position, no settled team, no idea. Where next?
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This result has been coming for weeks we’ve been awful in the majority of games we’ve played so far he should have been sacked months ago, he’s tactically inept, constantly plays players out of position and has left us woefully short defensively. Just sack the moron tonight.
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Surely they have to get rid, otherwise the season is a write off already. they are going nowhere under this bloke.
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I see absolutely nothing to suggest Bruce can improve on last season, or even get close to it at this rate. Repeatedly outplayed by teams with weaker squads, players out of position, dropping too many points. If I had just bought 55% of Aston Villa now would be the time to get a new manager in.
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Now is the the time to let Bruce go, we have a couple of weeks to get sorted, still early in the season, we can still turn this around, still make this a Villa promotion season but only if we act positively and make changes, the reason to keep Bruce after the summer was in part stability, that's now a dead duck, make the change, breath new life into the club, get everybody on side and we start the season again vs Blackburn Rovers, if we don't we'll lose that game, serious problems.
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Utter garbage. Fuck off Bruce, you are not good enough to manage Aston Villa.
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Does anyone know if the owners or the CEO were at the match?
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Isn't this exactly the same as last season, we scrape results against poor teams, then lose to all the top teams in the division.
Has he gone yet ?
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Spud-U-Loath strikes again.
Get rid. NOW!
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By all means boo at the end but for the life of me I can see how chanting against the manager during the match, helps.
I have a lot more sympathy for the fans that spent money, travelled and had to witness that to be honest.
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If he’s lost the away fans it’s curtains.
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So, it's been a shit week, and I don't think anyone seriously expects it to improve enough under Bruce.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmBSR6cWwAEacmT.jpg:large)
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I think we all saw this coming.
It hasn't come as a massive surprise that we get well beat by an organised team.
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Does anyone know if the owners or the CEO were at the match?
Yes, sitting with Ian Taylor.
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How do we make this league look so difficult? Wigan Bolton and Brentford all cruising having spent minimal cash. Absolute laughing stock
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Bruce should have gone months ago. We only have ourselves to blame.
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Until the holy trinity of Ads, Damo and Chris Jameson say so, I think he has a chance of staying.
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Come on Christian, you know what to do.
What would Jesus do? Flip a table and expel the prick, surely.
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It took just 5 seconds of decision to realise the time is right.....
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We’ve only lost one game.
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Does anyone know if the owners or the CEO were at the match?
Yes, sitting with Ian Taylor.
The small talk must have been awkward.
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We’ve only lost one game.
2 this week
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40 cup finals
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We’ve only lost one game.
We've only won 2.
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Last time I suffered something as bad as that it was Southampton away.
Just. Nothing.
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We’ve only lost one game.
Win ratio of 33% in the league. Good enough?
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Center mid at center back. Right back at left back. Loan Center back at right back. 1 recognised center back in the entire squad.
Make any sense to you? Fucking bollocks Bruce, get the fuck out of here.
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Southampton away. There was a game. I got hit on the head with a dustbin lid. Least painful thing of the day.
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We’ve only lost one game.
Win ratio of 33% in the league. Good enough?
Good enough to stave off the threat of relegation...
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Bruce should have gone months ago. We only have ourselves to blame.
Spot on Brian - straight after the Wembley debacle - now we 're stuck with an inept defence until January - no chance of automatic promotion
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Last time I suffered something as bad as that it was Southampton away.
Just. Nothing.
When, under Lambert? The last 8 years provide a lot to choose/forget from.
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Does anyone know if the owners or the CEO were at the match?
Yes, sitting with Ian Taylor.
Thanks Walmley Villa
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Bruce should have gone months ago. We only have ourselves to blame.
My sentiments exactly Brian.
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He stated after the Burton game that this would be a shadow of the team for the Sheff U match.... yep he got that spot on the bloke i a joke he has no idea at all..how do we spend most of the transfer week chasing a french CB only for it to fall through at last min so he decides to get a striker in ( not complaining about that) and totally ignore the CB prob..baffling
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Isn't that our worst defeat since being relegated? Two years in nearly and he presides over that clusterfuck.
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Bruce should have gone months ago. We only have ourselves to blame.
Spot on Brian - straight after the Wembley debacle - now we 're stuck with an inept defence until January - no chance of automatic promotion
He should have gone in May 2017. The writing was on the wall in big neon lights back then. Everything since has been highly predictable, much like today.
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Bruce should have gone months ago. We only have ourselves to blame.
My sentiments exactly Brian.
But that's not really true is it? It's the collective owners' fault for sticking with him. I know I'm splitting hairs at the use of 'we', but I actually think it bears pointing out - if it was down to a poll of all involved with the club, he'd surely be gone by now. Considering the last 2-3 years in isolation, it's only bad management from the top, and people who've allowed themselves to be duped by Bruce's "experience", which has us where we are today.
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Outplayed, outrun and out thought. If you keep doing the same thing you'll keep getting the same outcome. Bruce is a nice bloke but there are no excuses for that performance, the manager is to blame.
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Bruce should have gone months ago. We only have ourselves to blame.
My sentiments exactly Brian.
I wanted him gone but with financial meltdown in play paying him compo probably wasn't top of Xia's list. Arguably first fault of the new owners keeping him on.
Interesting to see what Purslow does now.
Xia surely must be calling for his p45 after 2 years of this tedium?
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Phew. Am I glad we didn't take a gamble on Henry otherwise we might have looked like a unprepared rabble........ Bruce should not have seen the end of last September as Villa manager let alone start this one. Do it NOW
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Having said that, Bruce won a MOTM award last year and I was roundly chastised at the time for criticising him, saying that it meant nothing, and that we'd see in the months to come whether he deserved any plaudits or not. Here we are.
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Sacking a manager a week before the season wouldn’t have been good. Sacking him on May 26th would have been correct, but Xia was too busy panicking.
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We’ve only lost one game.
Win ratio of 33% in the league. Good enough?
yes . the football has been fantastic to watch
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Get rid now. Still plenty of time to for a new manager to work with. Although what do you do about the defence between now and January??
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Bruce should have gone months ago. We only have ourselves to blame.
Spot on Brian - straight after the Wembley debacle - now we 're stuck with an inept defence until January - no chance of automatic promotion
He should have gone in May 2017. The writing was on the wall in big neon lights back then. Everything since has highly predictable, much like today.
I guess the only crumb of comfort is that the owner(s) & CEO are no longer standing behind their chosen manager. I sincerely hope the new guys have already seen right through Bruce's BS and bring their own man in over the coming week.
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Get rid now. Still plenty of time to for a new manager to work with. Although what do you do about the defence between now and January??
Terry, Huth, or recall Elphick and hope for the best
Any of those would strengthen the defence we saw today.
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Yep, my patience has very quickly run out in the last couple of weeks and for the first time since he arrived I wouldn't even be prepared to say 'give him 2 or 3 more matches' or whatever, I would just fire now. We've been backwards and forwards with this bollocks for well over 12 months and at best you'd say we falling just short. We will continue to do so with him in charge and it's not good enough.
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Shit football is tolerated if you get the right results. We're not. His use of Jedinak and the defence in general will sink him.
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I just cannot fathom the absence of effort. They really did run us off the park.
Bullied completely, they were stronger in the tackle, closed us down and did generally a lot of hard work off the ball. Nothing spectacular, just fundamental stuff.
We on the other hand were utterly lethargic, weak as well, devoid of ideas and a plan organisation.
It really was utterly embarrassing.
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I just cannot fathom the absence of effort. They really did run us off the park.
Bullied completely, they were stronger in the tackle, closed us down and did generally a lot of hard work off the ball. Nothing spectacular, just fundamental stuff.
We on the other hand were utterly lethargic, weak as well, devoid of ideas and a plan organisation.
It really was utterly embarrassing.
I feel for you Ads - and the many others who were subjected to that debacle today.
As a matter of interest, would you keep Bruce?
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Bruce should have gone months ago. We only have ourselves to blame.
Spot on Brian - straight after the Wembley debacle - now we 're stuck with an inept defence until January - no chance of automatic promotion
He should have gone in May 2017. The writing was on the wall in big neon lights back then. Everything since has been highly predictable, much like today.
It’s ironic. His job was saved by a financial disaster much of it caused by him failing in the job he was hired to do. And handsomely rewarded might I add.
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No ‘zip’ today eh Steve ??? AGAIN.
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I just cannot fathom the absence of effort. They really did run us off the park.
Bullied completely, they were stronger in the tackle, closed us down and did generally a lot of hard work off the ball. Nothing spectacular, just fundamental stuff.
We on the other hand were utterly lethargic, weak as well, devoid of ideas and a plan organisation.
It really was utterly embarrassing.
Lost the dressing room?
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Well on the bright side it was a lovely sunny day
On the downside, they were miles above us in every department, every player was more aggressive than his Villa counterpart. They won every tackle and then dominated possession once they had it. The score line flattered us
The keeper is a clown, axel isn’t anywhere near aggressive or decisive enough to play at all never mind at centre half. No one gets any credit at all
The atmosphere among the fans was awful, seemed a few were just wanting a row. I think York’s Old Bill were expecting WW3, there seemed hundreds of them
A day to forget
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Having said that, Bruce won a MOTM award last year and I was roundly chastised at the time for criticising him, saying that it meant nothing, and that we'd see in the months to come whether he deserved any plaudits or not. Here we are.
I think it's safe to say that you were right.
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I just cannot fathom the absence of effort. They really did run us off the park.
Bullied completely, they were stronger in the tackle, closed us down and did generally a lot of hard work off the ball. Nothing spectacular, just fundamental stuff.
We on the other hand were utterly lethargic, weak as well, devoid of ideas and a plan organisation.
It really was utterly embarrassing.
I feel for you Ads - and the many others who were subjected to that debacle today.
As a matter of interest, would you keep Bruce?
I'd rather have time to think before answering that. The sting and embarrassment of the defeat is too raw and I'm also roasting having parked at the top of sodding hill.
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I wonder if the team are forcing him out. Rightly so.
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There seemed a unanimous view that the team weren’t playing for him
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I wonder if the team are forcing him out. Rightly so.
After hanging the team out to dry against Burton and then his treatment of Adomah, I wouldn't be surprised
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There seemed a unanimous view that the team weren’t playing for him
Chap in front opined that. It's kind of difficult to argue as it was a Garde or Sherwood level shit show today.
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Entirely predictable.
The line up was wrong (players played out of position, too much faith in players that just are not performing), the tactics were wrong, there was no plan B at all, and no doubt the excuses will be predictable too. I remember thinking this about Sherwood - no accountability at all and the place stinks. The players don't seem interested, they don't seem to care, and make no bones about it, we really are in a lot of trouble.
Promotion - no chance in hell.
Relegation in fact seems more ominous right now.
Its time for our new owners and their new highly paid CEO to show that they care.
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I just cannot fathom the absence of effort. They really did run us off the park.
Bullied completely, they were stronger in the tackle, closed us down and did generally a lot of hard work off the ball. Nothing spectacular, just fundamental stuff.
We on the other hand were utterly lethargic, weak as well, devoid of ideas and a plan organisation.
It really was utterly embarrassing.
I feel for you Ads - and the many others who were subjected to that debacle today.
As a matter of interest, would you keep Bruce?
I'd rather have time to think before answering that. The sting and embarrassment of the defeat is too raw and I'm also roasting having parked at the top of sodding hill.
Fair enough. Safe journey home (& I trust you have some booze to look forward to when you get back).
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Last time I suffered something as bad as that it was Southampton away.
Just. Nothing.
I must take some responsibility for this. I was in Oxford that day we were hammered 6-1. Guess where I was today for the first time in 3 years?
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I wonder if the team are forcing him out. Rightly so.
His treatment of Adomah is shocking. Also, he said Bree did well at Burton, but dropped to the bench today? He didn't even get on! Nor Bjarnason?? He played well against Reading....
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I just cannot fathom the absence of effort. They really did run us off the park.
Bullied completely, they were stronger in the tackle, closed us down and did generally a lot of hard work off the ball. Nothing spectacular, just fundamental stuff.
We on the other hand were utterly lethargic, weak as well, devoid of ideas and a plan organisation.
It really was utterly embarrassing.
Ads, do you think the players have given up with Bruce?
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Sky 'highlights' (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11487833/sheffield-united-4-1-aston-villa)
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When I get back I'm picking up the family and driving another 2 and a half hours west to North Wales! I may have a beer some time after 10.
It's hard to really know whether he lost the players, but that performance was unbelievably limp.
We're going to get beat this season and suffer poor performances, but the insipid nature of that was so similar to some.of the worst surrenders the year we went down that I think you must consider it.
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Sky 'highlights' (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11487833/sheffield-united-4-1-aston-villa)
My God, it looks even worse than it sounded.
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Players can work out that playing 3 players in defense out of position is not a great idea, his willingness to throw players under the bus does not go unnoticed.
I bet if you asked the players if they think he is a really good bloke you might be surprised.
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No tactics.
No creativity.
No desire.
No urgency.
No formation.
No structure.
No game plan.
No defence.
No leadership.
No imagination.
No team spirit.
No improvement.
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Sky 'highlights' (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11487833/sheffield-united-4-1-aston-villa)
My God, it looks even worse than it sounded.
Possibly an error from the keeper for the 3rd (but hard to know how late he saw it) but the other 3 were poor organisation and they just walked through us.
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By all means boo at the end but for the life of me I can see how chanting against the manager during the match, helps.
Because fuck all else would help when you're 3-0 down and playing a team that look like Barcelona because of how shit you are.
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Sky 'highlights' (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11487833/sheffield-united-4-1-aston-villa)
My God, it looks even worse than it sounded.
Possibly an error from the keeper for the 3rd (but hard to know how late he saw it) but the other 3 were poor organisation and they just walked through us.
Time after time as well. It could've been many more.
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Sky 'highlights' (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11487833/sheffield-united-4-1-aston-villa)
My God, it looks even worse than it sounded.
Possibly an error from the keeper for the 3rd (but hard to know how late he saw it) but the other 3 were poor organisation and they just walked through us.
I seriously can't bring myself to watch it.
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Sky 'highlights' (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11487833/sheffield-united-4-1-aston-villa)
My God, it looks even worse than it sounded.
Possibly an error from the keeper for the 3rd (but hard to know how late he saw it) but the other 3 were poor organisation and they just walked through us.
I seriously can't bring myself to watch it.
Save yourself for the Extended Highlights.
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Just heard some of his post match comments, I can’t really repeat what he said because I was too busy shouting ‘lying bastard’.
He said something like ‘itwas only a couple of weeks ago they were saying we had played the best football for years.’
Yes, we played well, FOR AN HOUR, but we were hardly Barcelona. and we didn’t feckin win.
After the Brentford game where we played well for 60 mins, he was happy to tell the world that THAT was the level of performance he expected, and that finally we are able to produce it because he has finally got the players to do it.
He was milking the plaudits like he’d won the feckin league.
It’s completely obvious that 60 minutes of football was despite him, not because of him.
He is the master of spin, bullshit and deflection.
Like in yesterday’s prematch presser wher he told the world we had lost 5,6 or 7 players of those that had featured in the playoffs.
Seven? Fuck off.
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Post match interview https://www.facebook.com/avfcofficial/videos/697793683913717
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It’s disingenuous nonsense again, just fucking leave. He’s had way more opportunity than manager’s tend to get. He’s completely failed.
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On way back. Embarrassing performance. Even worse than RDM’s last game at Preston in my opinion. Also very similar to Cardiff this time last year.
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It’s disingenuous nonsense again, just fucking leave. He’s had way more opportunity than manager’s tend to get. He’s completely failed.
Indeed
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Steve Bruce - “All I ask is they put their boots on, roll their sleeves up, and give it a go".
Master tactician.
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Chip Van for the Potato Head please!
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Have I missed something how has he treated Albert badly? Genuine question.
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Sky 'highlights' (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11487833/sheffield-united-4-1-aston-villa)
My God, it looks even worse than it sounded.
Possibly an error from the keeper for the 3rd (but hard to know how late he saw it) but the other 3 were poor organisation and they just walked through us.
Time after time as well. It could've been many more.
It certainly could - and indeed probably should - have been many more. Fair play to The Blades, but that was absolutely atrocious today. Defensively, we look like a pub team. I can't wait to hear what excuses Bruce comes out with for that utter bag o' shite... >:(
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Now he's just fuckin' making shit up. That comment has tipped me into the out camp.
I can't be having a Villa manager treating the fans with contempt. We've never played good football regularly under him, and when we have it's despite him and his tactics.
Fuck off you fat bullshitting ******.
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Have I missed something how has he treated Albert badly? Genuine question.
He gave permission to Pulis to approach him to go out on loan, thereby indicating the player was surplus to requirements.
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Got the feeling we'd lose today with our level in last few weeks.
Didn't expect that though.
Big decision for the co-owners over next few days I think.
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I asked in the match thread for anyone to defend him, because if anyone can they are deluded. He hasn't been and is not good enough. He should have retired a few years ago. I really dont care how "nice" bloke he is as I am not expecting him to be my friend.
Please wake up and get rid of him, we were not going to get promoted (no one dare, we were 90 mins away!!!) last season and we wont this season. Resign or be sacked now and lets get on with the season.
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Got the feeling we'd lose today with our level in last few weeks.
Didn't expect that though.
Big decision for the co-owners over next few days I think.
Exactly the same in my case. Fully expected to lose, but not in that manner.
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'Just seen Bruce's post match bollox: and frankly wish I hadn't bothered. Pitiful.
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Disastrous keeping:
1 - Didn't come for the cross.
2 - Beaten by a shot frpm 30 yards.
3 - Pushed the ball into his own net.
4 - Risky throw out returned with interest.
Nyland is old enough to have learned his trade by now.
Mind you so is Little Orphan Annie.
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He trolls out the same lines. It’s dull like the football. He’ll eventually go with a big payoff and all his Talksport buddies will be bemoaning his departure coming out with “he’s a great football man and he’ll get another job soon...” blah blah
Thing is it’s not just him is it? He’s got Agnew, Calderwood, Clemence and Walsh all as part of his management circle. Surely from all of them they can see the lack of a centre half and cover is so evident.
Right I’m opening a can now. Might be the first of many!
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Just saw the video footage of Villa fans beating the heads off each other in the away end. Fucking disgraceful carry on.
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I just cannot fathom the absence of effort. They really did run us off the park.
Bullied completely, they were stronger in the tackle, closed us down and did generally a lot of hard work off the ball. Nothing spectacular, just fundamental stuff.
We on the other hand were utterly lethargic, weak as well, devoid of ideas and a plan organisation.
It really was utterly embarrassing.
Sheffield United are like that. Work their 3-5-2 really well and you have to match them. TBH we got battered up there last season and got away with it as Johnstone was superb.
Last season at the back we had resilience and everyone had confidence in each other. Lot different this season.
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Until the holy trinity of Ads, Damo and Chris Jameson say so, I think he has a chance of staying.
Errr, I said he should have gone end of the season, I was surprised he didn’t.
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I know he tries hard and all that but amongst that collective of absolute shite, Alan Hutton stood out. Taylor must be one of the worst players to earn a living as a footballer if Hutton is preferred to him.
My son is barely speaking to me after ‘treating’ him to that whilst Harrogate Town were winning 4-0.
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Until the holy trinity of Ads, Damo and Chris Jameson say so, I think he has a chance of staying.
Errr, I said he should have gone end of the season, I was surprised he didn’t.
I can vouch that this is indeed the case. I have a peculiar memory for these things, but I can't remember why I came upstairs to my office.
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Well just got back. Utter disgrace from the Manager to the players. There was nothing to praise other than McGinns workrate, the whole thing was a pile of shite from top to bottom.
It is quite apparent that Steve Bruce has been left behind by the modern game, I was struggling to work out what on earth we were trying to do in patterns or style of play or tactics, he took an age to try and change the game with no substitutions and he was given an absolute lesson by Wilder today, Sheffield United were excellent, every man knew his role and we never moved their back 3 around at all to create space or get in behind.
In the words of the Meaning Evil, For Gods Sake Go. #Bruceout
See you all at Blackburn.
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Until the holy trinity of Ads, Damo and Chris Jameson say so, I think he has a chance of staying.
Errr, I said he should have gone end of the season, I was surprised he didn’t.
I can vouch that this is indeed the case. I have a peculiar memory for these things, but I can't remember why I came upstairs to my office.
It was to sort out sending me the 100 quid you owe me. Honest.
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Just heard some of his post match comments, I can’t really repeat what he said because I was too busy shouting ‘lying bastard’.
He said something like ‘itwas only a couple of weeks ago they were saying we had played the best football for years.’
Yes, we played well, FOR AN HOUR, but we were hardly Barcelona. and we didn’t feckin win.
After the Brentford game where we played well for 60 mins, he was happy to tell the world that THAT was the level of performance he expected, and that finally we are able to produce it because he has finally got the players to do it.
He was milking the plaudits like he’d won the feckin league.
It’s completely obvious that 60 minutes of football was despite him, not because of him.
He is the master of spin, bullshit and deflection.
Like in yesterday’s prematch presser wher he told the world we had lost 5,6 or 7 players of those that had featured in the playoffs.
Seven? Fuck off.
Driving back just got into WM range to hear his post match interview, was screaming at the radio. I haven't wanted a manager gone this much since Lambert. Agree with everything in the post above but especially the bit in bold
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Also.....there can't be many managers around who after going 3-0 down in the first half, with such an abject performance , wouldn't at least make a token substitution at half time, at least to show they cared ....
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Until the holy trinity of Ads, Damo and Chris Jameson say so, I think he has a chance of staying.
Errr, I said he should have gone end of the season, I was surprised he didn’t.
I can vouch that this is indeed the case. I have a peculiar memory for these things, but I can't remember why I came upstairs to my office.
You were sending me your bank log in details.
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It's hard to really know whether he lost the players, but that performance was unbelievably limp.
We're going to get beat this season and suffer poor performances, but the insipid nature of that was so similar to some.of the worst surrenders the year we went down that I think you must consider it.
I've just got back, after watching a really pisspoor game from a team with no focus, no gameplan and no driving force. To the question above, I think he has lost the players: they were really not at the races at all, and they looked - as per against Reading - as if they were playing out a testimonial game...
What boiled my piss was (i) subs were again late coming on, when it was obvious that the system he'd set up was not working, (ii) when Hourihane came on (and he actually looked quite good again), we persisted with a 4-3-3 with Hourihane playing wide on the right! (iii) the manager was static for most of the game; no fight from him.
He has now certainly lost the fans - quite a lot of "Bruce Out" chanting and "Eff off Potatohead" was also aired.
Three other points: we were undone by a defence of misfits; Hutton is poor at LB (we need a left-footer!); Grealish really is not very good, sometimes!
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I was there. The day Bruce lost his players and, I hope, lost his job. Sheffield Utd were decent players , working a system they understood, working for each other and their manager.
We had no shape, no work rate, not supporting each other nor the manager.
We could and should blame the players but ultimately Bruce is the man to take responsibility. He must go and the sooner the better. A manager with football intelligence is required.
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That was diabolical. I genuinely can't think if any redeeming feature of the day.
Wife and in-laws all Blades fans and frankly the only response I've been able to muster was to thank them for hopefully being the end of Bruce.
Even they felt that Bruce couldn't give a shit.
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Jack was a mess today. Fiddling about as if it were a friendly. He epitomised players not playing for their manager. Jack needs a boot up the bottom.
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Maybe Bruce is suffering professionally because of his personal distress at losing his parents. Maybe football doesn't seem very important just now.
I feel for him.
But he has to go. Let him recover and begin again somewhere else.
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Maybe Bruce is suffering professionally because of his personal distress at losing his parents. Maybe football doesn't seem very important just now.
Nobody is forcing him to carry on. He seemed relieved enough to still be in a job after that meeting with the new owners. He could have gone then, or at the end of the season. but didn't. He now needs booting out immediately, as they should have done in the summer. What would have been a difficult job then, is doubly hard now the season is underway.
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Maybe Bruce is suffering professionally because of his personal distress at losing his parents. Maybe football doesn't seem very important just now.
I feel for him.
But he has to go. Let him recover and begin again somewhere else.
If that's the case, then why hasn't he walked? He's certainly got more than enough money now to have an extremely comfortable life away from football.
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Maybe Bruce is suffering professionally because of his personal distress at losing his parents. Maybe football doesn't seem very important just now.
I feel for him.
But he has to go. Let him recover and begin again somewhere else.
In a go again sort of way?
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I think we are paying the price of giving him free reign to buy/loan/acquire whichever players take his fancy at any particular time. All without any plan or discernible way of playing.
And because of that we have ended up with a rag tag bunch of (talented) individuals who, on very rare occasions, play as a team but on many more occasions play like the individuals they are.
He (we) then need to rely on one of those individuals having a moment of quality to make something happen.
I think we can all agree that we have only really seen top drawer football from a Villa team managed by Bruce less than a dozen times, and probably only 2 or 3 where it has been for the whole game.
No tactics, no plan, no future.
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I think we are paying the price of giving him free reign to buy/loan/acquire whichever players take his fancy at any particular time. All without any plan or discernible way of playing.
And because of that we have ended up with a rag tag bunch of (talented) individuals who, on very rare occasions, play as a team but on many more occasions play like the individuals they are.
He (we) then need to rely on one of those individuals having a moment of quality to make something happen.
I think we can all agree that we have only really seen top drawer football from a Villa team managed by Bruce less than a dozen times, and probably only 2 or 3 where it has been for the whole game.
No tactics, no plan, no future.
Apart from the huge amount of money Bruce has spunked since being here, it's as if Barry Fry taught him everything he knew!
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Maybe Bruce is suffering professionally because of his personal distress at losing his parents. Maybe football doesn't seem very important just now.
I feel for him.
But he has to go. Let him recover and begin again somewhere else.
If that's the case, then why hasn't he walked? He's certainly got more than enough money now to have an extremely comfortable life away from football.
He'd easily get a gig at Talksport.
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I’ve started two pre match threads ever. This game and Luton away. I’m no longer doing them!
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Until the holy trinity of Ads, Damo and Chris Jameson say so, I think he has a chance of staying.
Errr, I said he should have gone end of the season, I was surprised he didn’t.
I can vouch that this is indeed the case. I have a peculiar memory for these things, but I can't remember why I came upstairs to my office.
You were sending me your bank log in details.
If both of you fine fellows furnish me with details of your accounts I will arrange a transfer of funds. NI number and DOB would further facilitate the transaction.
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Cash is fine with me thanks :D
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There is a podcast called Athletico Mince by Bob Mortimer and Andy Dawson....
In this they parody something called the "Manager's Club"
Essentially it's all the old school managers on the merry go round picking up their cash for f****g over a football club a tactic (yes it's the only one I think Brucey has) known as Destory and Exit and then lunching on the proceeds! Pardew, McClaren, Allardyce, Hughes, Dowie etc... No mention yet of Bruce.... I expect him to get an airing in the next episode in fact I f*****g insist on it!
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Should have been sacked after the play off final as he failed his remit to get promotion and the football was dire for the most part.
Should definitely be sacked tonight. Can't help but feel he's lost the dressing room. I can imagine Adomah being a popular lad in the dressing room and Bruce has probably pissed a lot of them off.
Selling Elphick with no replacement was madness, especially when you're playing a central midfielder who can't run at centre half and don't look like keeping a clean sheet.
Bruce Out
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Should have been sacked after the play off final as he failed his remit to get promotion and the football was dire for the most part.
Should definitely be sacked tonight. Can't help but feel he's lost the dressing room. I can imagine Adomah being a popular lad in the dressing room and Bruce has probably pissed a lot of them off.
Selling Elphick with no replacement was madness, especially when you're playing a central midfielder who can't run at centre half and don't look like keeping a clean sheet.
Bruce Out
100%
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Pissed off players.
Bomb squad: Richards, McCormack.
One year left on contract go away don't want you don't trust you: Clark, Green, Lyden, Elphick, Mooney.
Two years left on contract go away don't want you don't trust you: Gardner, Tshibola.
Forgotten men: Hogan, De Laet. Davis, Bunn.
Players that probably don't give a fuck: Lansbury, Bree, Taylor. Hourihane, Bjarnason.
The Special Fuck Off Got A New Girlfriend Now Award: Adomah.
Maybe half the players employed by the club have no reason whatsoever to do anything more than just turn up to collect their wages.
And maybe Mr Bruce is suffering professionally because he's simply out of his depth.
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Great post Ronsshirt. Not looking too rosy is it?
After 2 years of Bruce the squad is still in a mess. He's built fuck all.
Purslow has a big job ahead
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And Purslow is only going to be able to make impacting, lasting change by removing this relic of a manager as soon as possible.
Bruce must be one of the laziest managers we've had. Any problem? Just loan some expensive Premier league player in as a solution. Nothing new worked on, no new shape, no changes to counter the opposition, nothing. Just the same turgid shit week after week.
Easy money, £3m a year for next to fuck all.
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Maybe Bruce is suffering professionally because of his personal distress at losing his parents. Maybe football doesn't seem very important just now.
I feel for him.
But he has to go. Let him recover and begin again somewhere else.
If that's the case, then why hasn't he walked? He's certainly got more than enough money now to have an extremely comfortable life away from football.
He'd easily get a gig at Talksport.
Aye, it's the obvious place for failed managers to spout their shit. He'd be a perfect foil for a smug twat like Dim White...
ps Funnily enough, I've just heard failed manager Stewart Pearce lauding Bruce's promotion record on Talkshite - in defence of him continuing as our manager. Who'd have thunk it? ::)
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And Purslow is only going to be able to make impacting, lasting change by removing this relic of a manager as soon as possible.
Bruce must be one of the laziest managers we've had. Any problem? Just loan some expensive Premier league player in as a solution. Nothing new worked on, no new shape, no changes to counter the opposition, nothing. Just the same turgid shit week after week.
Easy money, £3m a year for next to fuck all.
Pretty much this, he’s not doing enough
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It's supposedly more like £1.5m a year, which is still £1.5m too much. He doesn't take training, his signings are scattergun at best, his tactics are awful. I wonder when the last time was that he could look in the mirror and think he truly earned his wages.
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There is a podcast called Athletico Mince by Bob Mortimer and Andy Dawson....
In this they parody something called the "Manager's Club"
Essentially it's all the old school managers on the merry go round picking up their cash for f****g over a football club a tactic (yes it's the only one I think Brucey has) known as Destory and Exit and then lunching on the proceeds! Pardew, McClaren, Allardyce, Hughes, Dowie etc... No mention yet of Bruce.... I expect him to get an airing in the next episode in fact I f*****g insist on it!
Sitting in Rules restaurant ordering roast owl!
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The highlights on sky are harrowing. Their second goal especially- keeper throws to halfway line with mcginn bullied to the ground, run from halfway line with no challenge, scores from outside box
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I think we are paying the price of giving him free reign to buy/loan/acquire whichever players take his fancy at any particular time. All without any plan or discernible way of playing.
And because of that we have ended up with a rag tag bunch of (talented) individuals who, on very rare occasions, play as a team but on many more occasions play like the individuals they are.
He (we) then need to rely on one of those individuals having a moment of quality to make something happen.
I think we can all agree that we have only really seen top drawer football from a Villa team managed by Bruce less than a dozen times, and probably only 2 or 3 where it has been for the whole game.
No tactics, no plan, no future.
Agree with this .
Though the rag tag players less so.
They are too quality at this championship level and looking at it should be top end performers with top performers. Quality and consistency.
The common denominator is Bruce.
Perhaps there is a lack of foresight in seeing anything other than thinking players must be up for battles and being physically competitive.
Such an English old school approach which has hindered coaching and development of players for years and possible always .
Southgate has become proactive and worked on positive progressive play and style . It was with sense and realism . But also spirited by moments created .
Southgate only got top role by default ! Alladyce and Bruce were the 2 contenders and despite both relative success it was very fortunate that Bruce didn't get England job and big Sam was caught out.
Anyway Bruce is far far too limited in his philosophy and has little to know idea of modern football approach.
I really laugh at his 100% and rolling sleeves attitude when he doesn't see football as a beautiful game creating moments or even have a methodical approach.
It's a run around be physical, get stuck in and score goals approach.
Many non UK players pundits never talk in this way so it's not just Bruce with a narrow small minded attitude but a inherent problem with some certain British attitude .
I rather have ranieri , blanc , or of this ilk who has an idea how to play the game and produce performances and results.
Derby and lampard lost 4-1 earlier in season and come back strong (I argued Lampards case in may he should have come to villa with JT)
Bruce squad is arguably better and he's way more experienced so we should be very annoyed that we took such a hammering .
I'm annoyed what happened and don't see much changing under his tenure unlike what lampard and his fresh ideas have achieved at Derby or even Potter and Swansea.
Bruce is yesterday man let it be so for us too !
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The highlights on sky are harrowing. Their second goal especially- keeper throws to halfway line with mcginn bullied to the ground, run from halfway line with no challenge, scores from outside box
The scorer of that second goal - Duffy - had a great game; really bullied McGinn and JG.
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If i didn't know better I would say that Bruce is making sure that is replacement will need a long time to put a balanced squad together that can win this division.
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That's it for me. Never attending again until sanity prevails at the club. Bruce has reduced me to an angry wreck. Enough's enough.
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It's supposedly more like £1.5m a year, which is still £1.5m too much. He doesn't take training, his signings are scattergun at best, his tactics are awful. I wonder when the last time was that he could look in the mirror and think he truly earned his wages.
Monday morning after Wolves. Followed by one of our worst performances of the season two days later.
If there is one word to sum up his tenure it would be scattergun. No real strategy in his signings and that has translated to our style of play. Sometimes good but other times well below what should be expected from a decent set of players.
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There is a podcast called Athletico Mince by Bob Mortimer and Andy Dawson....
In this they parody something called the "Manager's Club"
Essentially it's all the old school managers on the merry go round picking up their cash for f****g over a football club a tactic (yes it's the only one I think Brucey has) known as Destory and Exit and then lunching on the proceeds! Pardew, McClaren, Allardyce, Hughes, Dowie etc... No mention yet of Bruce.... I expect him to get an airing in the next episode in fact I f*****g insist on it!
Sitting in Rules restaurant ordering roast owl!
It's bloody marvellous; and the latest offering from an arch Destroy & Exit-er McClaren (Picks the QPR Team) had me crying with laughter earlier. It's definitely time The Mincers had Bruce on board.
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Disastrous keeping:
1 - Didn't come for the cross.
2 - Beaten by a shot frpm 30 yards.
3 - Pushed the ball into his own net.
4 - Risky throw out returned with interest.
Nyland is old enough to have learned his trade by now.
Mind you so is Little Orphan Annie.
Now this is just bs
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He’s had months to buy fucking defenders, he hasn’t and we’ve lost four one. What a surprise.
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Wow...those highlights. Inept isn't the word. Sheffield played through the lines so easily, where was Whelan infront of the back 4?! We are terrible defending crosses this season which is a bit of a disaster in this league.
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He trolls out the same lines. It’s dull like the football. He’ll eventually go with a big payoff and all his Talksport buddies will be bemoaning his departure coming out with “he’s a great football man and he’ll get another job soon...” blah blah
Thing is it’s not just him is it? He’s got Agnew, Calderwood, Clemence and Walsh all as part of his management circle. Surely from all of them they can see the lack of a centre half and cover is so evident.
Right I’m opening a can now. Might be the first of many!
What on earth do they actually do, except pick up their fat pay packets?
It is like a bloody holiday camp down there!
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I have never seen so many police in and around a stadium, when there was trouble two of them just stood and filmed it, leaving the stewards to struggle to sort it.
Only McGinn and the new winger are excused today, even Grealish pissed me off today with his play acting, every other player was fucking abysmal, it could have been even worse than 4-1. The Sheffield United support started the “sacked in the morning” chant and the Villa support joined in, I kept getting flashbacks to the 3-0 FA Cup defeat to Oldham, grim.
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Bloody hell. Just watched the lowlights...Christ we were poor.
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I have never seen so many police in and around a stadium, when there was trouble two of them just stood and filmed it, leaving the stewards to struggle to sort it.
Only McGinn and the new winger are excused today, even Grealish pissed me off today with his play acting, every other player was fucking abysmal, it could have been even worse than 4-1. The Sheffield United support started the “sacked in the morning” chant and the Villa support joined in, I kept getting flashbacks to the 3-0 FA Cup defeat to Oldham, grim.
I remember going there once in the BFR days and they were banging on our car a bit, but nothing too nasty. I have just seen the goals. I don't know why everyone is moaning so much, I thought it was a lovely move for our goal ;). I thought Nyland could and should have done better for their second and third goals.
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Disastrous keeping:
1 - Didn't come for the cross.
2 - Beaten by a shot frpm 30 yards.
3 - Pushed the ball into his own net.
4 - Risky throw out returned with interest.
Nyland is old enough to have learned his trade by now.
Mind you so is Little Orphan Annie.
Now this is just bs
Seems pretty accurate to me.
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I have never seen so many police in and around a stadium, when there was trouble two of them just stood and filmed it, leaving the stewards to struggle to sort it.
I mentioned that somewhere here, wondered what info they had that had led to them committing that many plod. Only ever seen more at Blues and last seasons away at Wolves.
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It was pretty terrible and they should have had more than four. It felt similar to the Preston game under RDM and we know what happened after that. I don't think a change will be long in coming.
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Bruce should have gone after 6 games last season. After 6 games this season he's still with us and certainly no further forwards. He needs to go, tonight, tomorrow asap!There are things to be positive about: new owners who seem to know how to run successful businesses; a new experienced ceo; we managed to keep both chester and grealish and told a sky 6 club to f-ck off; we've brought in some decent loans/signings, that I believe Bruce had little say in. To complete this feeling of positivity we now need a new manager, to give the place a fresh impetus. The new owners need to act immediately otherwise there will be plenty more humiliations around the corner just like the Sheffield debacle today.Bruce Out!
UTV.
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It was pretty terrible and they should have had more than four. It felt similar to the Preston game under RDM and we know what happened after that. I don't think a change will be long in coming.
It needs to happen, so we don’t waste this season.
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I have never seen so many police in and around a stadium, when there was trouble two of them just stood and filmed it, leaving the stewards to struggle to sort it.
I mentioned that somewhere here, wondered what info they had that had led to them committing that many plod. Only ever seen more at Blues and last seasons away at Wolves.
I didn't think too much of it at the time because we got there just before the game but yes, there were bloody loads of them.
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If Bruce stays, we'll be lucky to avoid relegation! He's totally fucked up the defence. The Elphick sale was utter stupidity with no replacement lined up. Time for change, NOW!
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I have never seen so many police in and around a stadium, when there was trouble two of them just stood and filmed it, leaving the stewards to struggle to sort it.
I mentioned that somewhere here, wondered what info they had that had led to them committing that many plod. Only ever seen more at Blues and last seasons away at Wolves.
Is it all that surprising when our own fans are assaulting each other in the away end? Not the first time this has happened in the last year, either. Shameful
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It's not surprising that we are all over the place defensively if they are not playing in their proper positions. We still look really disorganised as a unit and are playing individually instead of as a team. Terrible defending for all of their goals, although a couple were lovely finishes, they should not have been given that much space. We look lethargic and lazy and I include Bruce in that with his comments. It's like he doesn't really want to be here and would be glad to pick up his compo for being ditched. Breath fresh life into this squad quickly and we can still fight for promotion but the owners and Purslow need to act quickly by throwing him out, or throwing their weight behind him. There are so many players at Villa that I really don't rate but I do think that another Manager might get a tune out of them.
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If we bin Bruce and have someone lined up then the new manager gets the international break to take a look at everyone and formulate something resembling a plan rather than toss a load of loan signings and players out of position on to the pitch like a fucking voodoo shaman reading animal bones and hope for the best. Which is pretty much all ''I don't believe in tactics'' does.
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Whoever takes over would be getting a very good squad of players. Misfiring, but very good.
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Just got back. Still in shock at just how poor that was. A shambles from first to last. He can't survive this. Once the away fans turn surely its all over.
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I have never seen so many police in and around a stadium, when there was trouble two of them just stood and filmed it, leaving the stewards to struggle to sort it.
I mentioned that somewhere here, wondered what info they had that had led to them committing that many plod. Only ever seen more at Blues and last seasons away at Wolves.
Is it all that surprising when our own fans are assaulting each other in the away end? Not the first time this has happened in the last year, either. Shameful
That was TWO idiots, just two. The policing was overkill both before and after the game, this is South Yorkshire police though...
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I didn’t see the match, so can’t really comment on that, but the score line suggests it’s time for a change of the management team. Seems as if SB has taken us as far as he can. I doubt if he stays he will do as well as last season. And that wasn’t quite good enough.
He’s a good man, so I don’t think he deserves any personal abuse. He came in under difficult circumstances, steadied the ship, but considering the money spent, has under-achieved. Time for somebody else to move us forward. I think he knows that the game is up too.
Thanks Steve and cheerio.
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Maybe he is a good man, but we employ him as a football manager and at that he is useless. Words that sum him up have been used on this thread pretty well, he is lazy, his approach to transfers scatter gun, his approach to tactics non-existent. Today he lost the core of the away support, one major sign that his P45 is close and also it looks to me like the majority of the players. Terry kept this club together last year, not Bruce.
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I have never seen so many police in and around a stadium, when there was trouble two of them just stood and filmed it, leaving the stewards to struggle to sort it.
I mentioned that somewhere here, wondered what info they had that had led to them committing that many plod. Only ever seen more at Blues and last seasons away at Wolves.
Is it all that surprising when our own fans are assaulting each other in the away end? Not the first time this has happened in the last year, either. Shameful
It happens, it’s always happened. A concoction of too much booze, sun and the mix of those who say everyone should support the team no matter what and those criticising. Fella near me was banging the drum about how we should all get behind the team, a few minutes later he had passed out asleep, pissed.
It does make you question the Polices use of resources, I’d feel more than usually sorry for anyone burgled in Sth Yorkshire yesterday.
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I have never seen so many police in and around a stadium, when there was trouble two of them just stood and filmed it, leaving the stewards to struggle to sort it.
I mentioned that somewhere here, wondered what info they had that had led to them committing that many plod. Only ever seen more at Blues and last seasons away at Wolves.
They'd heard a Brazillianesque team were in town?
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I have never seen so many police in and around a stadium, when there was trouble two of them just stood and filmed it, leaving the stewards to struggle to sort it.
I mentioned that somewhere here, wondered what info they had that had led to them committing that many plod. Only ever seen more at Blues and last seasons away at Wolves.
Is it all that surprising when our own fans are assaulting each other in the away end? Not the first time this has happened in the last year, either. Shameful
It happens, it’s always happened. A concoction of too much booze, sun and the mix of those who say everyone should support the team no matter what and those criticising. Fella near me was banging the drum about how we should all get behind the team, a few minutes later he had passed out asleep, pissed.
It does make you question the Polices use of resources, I’d feel more than usually sorry for anyone burgled in Sth Yorkshire yesterday.
I wouldn’t worry too much about general Police resources in the actual Sheffield area as the officers on the football will all be on a cancelled rest day where they will get a rainy or snowy Tuesday off in return.
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That possibly explains why they all looked so confrontational on leaving the ground.
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That possibly explains why they all looked so confrontational on leaving the ground.
Ha ha! Quite possibly!
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South Yorkshire police are a law unto themselves. Went to Hillsboroughna few years back and they reminded me of some banana republic police force
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It was pretty terrible and they should have had more than four. It felt similar to the Preston game under RDM and we know what happened after that. I don't think a change will be long in coming.
The Preston comparison is a good one. Then we had five forward players running randomly around with no plan or clue what to do. This time it’s defenders.
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I have never seen so many police in and around a stadium, when there was trouble two of them just stood and filmed it, leaving the stewards to struggle to sort it.
I mentioned that somewhere here, wondered what info they had that had led to them committing that many plod. Only ever seen more at Blues and last seasons away at Wolves.
It was the same at Sheff Wednesday away last year. Two pubs within five minutes walk of the station shouldn't need police horses and a full squadron of response rozzers.
Rotherham was similar two years ago. Definitely a Yorkshire Police thing.
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I have never seen so many police in and around a stadium, when there was trouble two of them just stood and filmed it, leaving the stewards to struggle to sort it.
I mentioned that somewhere here, wondered what info they had that had led to them committing that many plod. Only ever seen more at Blues and last seasons away at Wolves.
It was the same at Sheff Wednesday away last year. Two pubs within five minutes walk of the station shouldn't need police horses and a full squadron of response rozzers.
Rotherham was similar two years ago. Definitely a Yorkshire Police thing.
It must be a visiting big club/categorization sitch. I went to Hillsborough with some BHA mates several seasons back: and plod were conspicuous by their absence. Cue Wendy twats waiting outside the turnstiles for away fans to come out & having a pop at all & sundry. One Stone Island-clad nobber walked up to me & asked me if I 'were Brighton'? I said, "no, Hove actually"(in a non South Coast accent) - & he didn't know how to react & promptly walked off to look for somebody else to slap. Yorkshire, eh? ::)
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I have never seen so many police in and around a stadium, when there was trouble two of them just stood and filmed it, leaving the stewards to struggle to sort it.
I mentioned that somewhere here, wondered what info they had that had led to them committing that many plod. Only ever seen more at Blues and last seasons away at Wolves.
It was the same at Sheff Wednesday away last year. Two pubs within five minutes walk of the station shouldn't need police horses and a full squadron of response rozzers.
Rotherham was similar two years ago. Definitely a Yorkshire Police thing.
It must be a visiting big club/categorization sitch. I went to Hillsborough with some BHA mates several seasons back: and plod were conspicuous by their absence. Cue Wendy twats waiting outside the turnstiles for away fans to come out & having a pop at all & sundry. One Stone Island-clad nobber walked up to me & asked me if I 'were Brighton'? I said, "no, Hove actually"(in a non South Coast accent) - & he didn't know how to react & promptly walked off to look for somebody else to slap. Yorkshire, eh? ::)
Ha ha that reminds me of walking up to St Andrews once on my own and several lads approaching me and asking if I was Villa - I sort of glared back and replied "yer what" as though I couldn't quite believe theyd asked and they soon buggered off.
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They were in full ninja turtle regalia too. A line of horses and then two lines of sweaty men dressed like they're about to invade Poland boxing us in as we queued was very much overkill.
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Yes the plod looked more like a militia than trustworth bobbies although the few I chatted with were decent enough, if hot and bothered.
A perculiar command decision to police the game in such a manner. Anyone would think there were a load of striking miners who needed to be kept in their place
There was also a heavy metal festival going on there yesterday, maybe some of the plod were going straight there afterward without getting changed?
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Yes the plod looked more like a militia than trustworth bobbies although the few I chatted with were decent enough, if hot and bothered.
A perculiar command decision to police the game in such a manner. Anyone would think there were a load of striking miners who needed to be kept in their place
There was also a heavy metal festival going on there yesterday, maybe some of the plod were going straight there afterward without getting changed?
That'll be it then. Those mosh pits can be pretty brutal places, apparently...
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I have never seen so many police in and around a stadium, when there was trouble two of them just stood and filmed it, leaving the stewards to struggle to sort it.
I mentioned that somewhere here, wondered what info they had that had led to them committing that many plod. Only ever seen more at Blues and last seasons away at Wolves.
It was the same at Sheff Wednesday away last year. Two pubs within five minutes walk of the station shouldn't need police horses and a full squadron of response rozzers.
Rotherham was similar two years ago. Definitely a Yorkshire Police thing.
It must be a visiting big club/categorization sitch. I went to Hillsborough with some BHA mates several seasons back: and plod were conspicuous by their absence. Cue Wendy twats waiting outside the turnstiles for away fans to come out & having a pop at all & sundry. One Stone Island-clad nobber walked up to me & asked me if I 'were Brighton'? I said, "no, Hove actually"(in a non South Coast accent) - & he didn't know how to react & promptly walked off to look for somebody else to slap. Yorkshire, eh? ::)
Ha ha that reminds me of walking up to St Andrews once on my own and several lads approaching me and asking if I was Villa - I sort of glared back and replied "yer what" as though I couldn't quite believe theyd asked and they soon buggered off.
Remember many moons ago outside selhurst park being stopped by a bunch of cockneys who asked me if I knew the time. I simply replied....we don't wear fuckin watches in Brum...off they trotted
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Awful and shocking are two words to descibe our non performance something needs to change because that type of performance should never be excepted by our great club again.
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It was unfortunate but I feel a come back against Blackburn on Saturday. Although I think it will be very tight, a win would be amazing. For some reason sites like BetSeven are predicting a big Blackburn win. But the stats aren't everything. We are in need of a turn around and passion wins games, not just stats.
https://www.betseven.net/football-betting-tips/english-championship/blackburn-vs-aston-villa/
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