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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on January 13, 2018, 07:24:00 PM
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A backs to the wall at times display but we were resilient and resolute. Happy for Scotty again and a special mention for Thor who came in and did a brilliant job in place the liability that is Glen Whelan. All in all very pleased.
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Happy with the performance and result today, I know Forest were shit but we could have won by 3 today with a bit more luck. You’d normally expect the home side to have more attacking moments but the team worked hard to nullify Forest before they got into dangerous positions.
Looked better when Bjork came on at half time as there was a bit more tempo to us. Onwards and upwards.
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Thor was excellent in the second. That is clearly his role. Good solid win.
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Well done Villa boys and Bruce.
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Oh and after a disastrous run of games I’m now on a 3 win streak in starting match threads. Just saying.
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3 points. Job done. But why am I always shitting myself that we'll let our opponents equalise?
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Thor was excellent in the second. That is clearly his role. Good solid win.
Birkir has been bjorn again in his new role ...
I'll get my coat.
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Just got home to see we've managed to see out the rest of the game for the win.
'Well chuffed. :)
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Despite some silly comments on the match thread tgat was pretty one sided. Controlled the second half and rarely looked in trouble. 3 points. Next.
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Professional job. Impetuous callow yoots taught a lesson by their elders and betters.
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3 points. Job done. But why am I always shitting myself that we'll let our opponents equalise?
It's the Villa way, but having John Terry back there marshalling things eases my sphincter considerably.
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3 points. Job done. But why am I always shitting myself that we'll let our opponents equalise?
Because it is the (former?) Villa way.
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I normally turn the telly off as soon as the full time whistle goes when Sky covers our away games.
Not tonight....that was a totally professional display that keeps us right in there.
Special mention for Jack, Snodgrass and Barney, who was excellent when he came on.
GET IN!!!
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Excellent away performance, just a shame we couldn't get a second. Every player knew what their role was and that was easily Thor's best showing in a Villa shirt so far. Winger he isn't. Only three wins off last seasons entire total and still got around four months left and some very winnable games to come.
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Hard fought win, not a lot to write home about but you can't fault the effort. It was always going to be a tough game. The 3 points keeps us in the mix and right now, that's all that's important tonight.
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snoddy . hogan , Terry , Bjork were all good today
Forest aint good but we have to do the job and get the 3 pts
Confidence is coming in and the players look happy and look like they care , we have improved since Jack has been playing regular and Agnew got the job.
still think Bruce can get a lot more from us but Im happy today.
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A very professional and solid away win.
This was a match a year ago we'd have lost (and we did).
Forest had one serious shot all match, we should've had more than one.
Main thing was we kept the gap to five points. With Derby winning that was all we could do at kick off. 3 of our next four at home so I'd be optimistic we can cut the gap down to 2 or 3 points. Let's see how Derby do when they have to go to the City Ground.
Main surprise for me was how negative the match thread was. The usual this player is shite etc although it's par for the course during a game but watching that first half I thought we were pretty comfortable and yet it was Forest would tear us apart in the second half.
We had a poor xmas but it's now three straight league wins with no goals conceded and plenty of winnable games coming up. Get the feeling last week/people still wanting SB sacked is still playing on people's minds when they view games.
Albeit at a higher level, we had plenty of these types of away games under MON.
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Could have been a little more comfortable with 2nd goal but for all thier puff only one real chance with the shot.
Games against Barnsley home Sheffield away and Burton Blues at home real chance to pressure derby in 2nd
Utv
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Delighted with that win. Thor was awesome in the second half and with Terry in defence I never thought they'd score. I've not had that kind of faith in a Villa defence since the days of Olof & Laursen.
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Well done Villa. It's a good weekend!
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Quite a few very good performances but was very impressed with Grealish’s work rate.
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What's nice to see is this recent run has started to once again cement our place in the playoffs. We have a 4 point cushion now and with some decent games coming up we have a chance to really build on that. Three of our next four are at Villa Park all against teams in the bottom 6.
Barnsley H
Sheff Utd A
Burton H
Noses H
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Classic Bruceball = Defend, hope for a goal. There is no attacking tactics, method or blueprint.
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Watched second half. Looked lively and enjoyable to watch. Only 5 points away from glory.
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Classic Bruceball = Defend, hope for a goal. There is no attacking tactics, method or blueprint.
Oh do fucking give it a rest. You were moaning about the away fans earlier. We just won our third in a row so if you don't have anything positive to say go somewhere else.
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Abject would be kind to Forest in that second half, but overall delighted to come away from there with 3 pts.
Terry back on form at the back keeping a shape on that defence, thought Hourihane had a good second half playing the ball out of midfield, Snoddy a deserved MOTM for his efforts up top.
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Bloody good away performance and a deserved 3 points. That second place is in our sights.
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My golden Muppet membership lapsed - I just donated again!
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A well drilled performance. No excitement, no panic, but three points. All that counts now
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Barnsley H
Sheff Utd A
Burton H
Noses H
That should be looked at as an absolute minimum of 8 points, and a realistic target of 10.
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Classic Bruceball = Defend, hope for a goal. There is no attacking tactics, method or blueprint.
Oh do fucking give it a rest. You were moaning about the away fans earlier. We just won our third in a row so if you don't have anything positive to say go somewhere else.
This, with clappy icon thingy.
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Snoddy had a good game put some decent balls in today I thought
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3 points. Job done. But why am I always shitting myself that we'll let our opponents equalise?
It's the Villa way, but having John Terry back there marshalling things eases my sphincter considerably.
It's an arresting image, TV!
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Classic Bruceball = Defend, hope for a goal. There is no attacking tactics, method or blueprint.
Assume you didn't watch the game? We controlled it to the Terry header and then again for 30 mins on the 2nd half.
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Quite a few very good performances but was very impressed with Grealish’s work rate.
Lasted the 90 mins very strongly. Needs to work on his shooting from outside the box though
Thought we were very solid and comfortably the better side. Second goal would have made things comfortable but Hogan scoring again is a big positive, Terry completely dominant on his return from injury and BB best game for the club on his introduction. Snodgrass in fine form too.
We made Forest look very poor.
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Ridiculous comment
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Solid professional away win that. Good job Bruce & team.
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Is the clue in "blue"print?
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Classic Bruceball = Defend, hope for a goal. There is no attacking tactics, method or blueprint.
Assume you didn't watch the game? We controlled it to the Terry header and then again for 30 mins on the 2nd half.
In fairness to him, most of the match thread were predicting doom based on the 10 minutes to the end of the first half so he wasn't alone.
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Is the clue in "blue"print?
Looks like it.
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A thoroughly professional job done.
- Jack MOTM.
- BB was excellent when he came on.
- Defense looked solid.
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Classic Bruceball = Defend, hope for a goal. There is no attacking tactics, method or blueprint.
When I said 'ridiculous comment', I was referring to this
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Start of the second half we looked really really good. At least now it looks like they've realised you need to play to Hogan's feet - although ironically both his goals in last two games have been headers!
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Classic Bruceball = Defend, hope for a goal. There is no attacking tactics, method or blueprint.
Assume you didn't watch the game? We controlled it to the Terry header and then again for 30 mins on the 2nd half.
Are you denying this is his tactics? It's an observation which is correct. But oh yes, we wonz so we r da best !
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Well done Villa boys on a great away win! Very pleased Hogan got another goal! He is a confidence player and if we continue to play to his strengths, he will shine!
Re FNC are you qv in disguise?
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I like the way Snoddy didn't react to anything today. He must've been fouled about 47 times!
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The most comfortable 1-0 you can get. Terry was back to his usual colousis best, Grealish oozed class in midfield and Hogan's confidence is rising by the game. Just getting the feeling we are starting to click now we have turned into the home run and definetly a 1975 style run in is still on the cards.
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Classic Bruceball = Defend, hope for a goal. There is no attacking tactics, method or blueprint.
Assume you didn't watch the game? We controlled it to the Terry header and then again for 30 mins on the 2nd half.
Are you denying this is his tactics? It's an observation which is correct. But oh yes, we wonz so we r da best !
Are you in a foul mood because your team got stuffed at home 0-3?
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We're on our way! We're on our way!
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We did exactly what we needed to do, score, put in a shift and use our heads to come back with all the points. Good win!
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Classic Bruceball = Defend, hope for a goal. There is no attacking tactics, method or blueprint.
Assume you didn't watch the game? We controlled it to the Terry header and then again for 30 mins on the 2nd half.
In fairness to him, most of the match thread were predicting doom based on the 10 minutes to the end of the first half so he wasn't alone.
He made two comments. One criticising our fans, the other criticising the manager after the win. Now, I'm not about to sit here and say the world is perfect, but the tactic that stood out was not to give Forest any clear cut chances which we managed to do. They got more and more frustrated all game. It's not the most aesthtically pleasing approach but it was the approach. He's either a whiny bastard or a troll. One of the two.
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3 points. Job done. But why am I always shitting myself that we'll let our opponents equalise?
It's the Villa way, but having John Terry back there marshalling things EASES MY SPHINCTER CONSIDERABLY.
It's an arresting image, TV!
There are creams and salts for that kind of thing too.
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Classic Bruceball = Defend, hope for a goal. There is no attacking tactics, method or blueprint.
Assume you didn't watch the game? We controlled it to the Terry header and then again for 30 mins on the 2nd half.
Are you denying this is his tactics? It's an observation which is correct. But oh yes, we wonz so we r da best !
Are you in a foul mood because your team got stuffed at home 0-3?
I was thinking exactly the same.
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Great result Villa, well done to all concerned. Momentum is now beginning to build and we have to keep the pressure on. Sit tight, peck away at the gap and then on for the final big push.
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I love Snoddy his interview was really great at the end. Gave massive support to Hogan for all his hard work.
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Really good result that, and with Leeds, Boro and Bristol all losing we are more solidly in the playoffs again. Pity Derby and cardiff won, but I am not too upset with Blues getting tonked 3-0!
Pleasantly surprised with Bjarnson, who looked far better than Whelan in a position I would not have thought he could play in. Credit to Bruce for trying that.
Defence is so much better with fit Terry in it.
Pleased for Hogan.
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I love colousis with some black olives, goat cheese and a glass of Retsina
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3 points. Job done. But why am I always shitting myself that we'll let our opponents equalise?
It's the Villa way, but having John Terry back there marshalling things EASES MY SPHINCTER CONSIDERABLY.
It's an arresting image, TV!
There are creams and salts for that kind of thing too.
Cream for my hole you say...
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Good result and a much needed win given other results today. Some good periods of play mixed poorer periods with too many hopeful (and pretty hopeless at times) long balls.
Thought the defence looked solid throughout though and thought Bjarnason did well when he came on in the holding role. If we can field that back four on a regular basis with Jedinak in front of them then we should be strong at the back for the remainder of the season.
We didn’t really fire going forward today, but I thought Grealish, Hogan, Snodgrass and Hourihane all had their moments with only Adomah looking a bit out of sorts.
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Probably our most important win of the season we’re right in the mix now. Time to stop all the negativity and get behind the team. UTV
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Classic Bruceball = Defend, hope for a goal. There is no attacking tactics, method or blueprint.
Assume you didn't watch the game? We controlled it to the Terry header and then again for 30 mins on the 2nd half.
In fairness to him, most of the match thread were predicting doom based on the 10 minutes to the end of the first half so he wasn't alone.
He made two comments. One criticising our fans, the other criticising the manager after the win. Now, I'm not about to sit here and say the world is perfect, but the tactic that stood out was not to give Forest any clear cut chances which we managed to do. They got more and more frustrated all game. It's not the most aesthtically pleasing approach but it was the approach. He's either a whiny bastard or a troll. One of the two.
You are the one whining, maybe stick to Ice Hockey, mate. >:(
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I love colousis with some black olives, goat cheese and a glass of Retsina
Is Retsina alcoholic Ribena?
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That was brilliant second half. Utterly professional and totally bossed them.
Thor added legs so the midfield went 10 yards higher up. Utterly dominated them.
Villa loud as fuck back into town.
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Classic Bruceball = Defend, hope for a goal. There is no attacking tactics, method or blueprint.
Assume you didn't watch the game? We controlled it to the Terry header and then again for 30 mins on the 2nd half.
Are you denying this is his tactics? It's an observation which is correct. But oh yes, we wonz so we r da best !
Erm ok pal. Enjoy your evening
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There's a funny smell in here.
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Pleased to see Villa won despite Forest having a new manager. That kind of thing usually bites us in the arse.
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I never thought I would ever say this but John Terry is the best player I have seen in a Villa shirt in years.
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Pleased to see Villa won despite Forest having a new manager. That kind of thing usually bites us in the arse.
Someone in the press conference yesterday pointed out to Bruce he has faced more new managers than anyone else this season and won the most. Something like 4 in 5?
I was surprised as well but it looks liek Bruce is new manager bounce kryptonite :)
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Classic Bruceball = Defend, hope for a goal. There is no attacking tactics, method or blueprint.
Assume you didn't watch the game? We controlled it to the Terry header and then again for 30 mins on the 2nd half.
In fairness to him, most of the match thread were predicting doom based on the 10 minutes to the end of the first half so he wasn't alone.
He made two comments. One criticising our fans, the other criticising the manager after the win. Now, I'm not about to sit here and say the world is perfect, but the tactic that stood out was not to give Forest any clear cut chances which we managed to do. They got more and more frustrated all game. It's not the most aesthtically pleasing approach but it was the approach. He's either a whiny bastard or a troll. One of the two.
You are the one whining, maybe stick to Ice Hockey, mate. >:(
Why do you have a giant 'NOT' in your username? It's irritating.
We won. Enjoy.
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Pleased to see Villa won despite Forest having a new manager. That kind of thing usually bites us in the arse.
Someone in the press conference yesterday pointed out to Bruce he has faced more new managers than anyone else this season and won the most. Something like 4 in 5?
I was surprised as well but it looks liek Bruce is new manager bounce kryptonite :)
Haha. I like that description!
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I never thought I would ever say this but John Terry is the best player I have seen in a Villa shirt in years.
Aye. We are very lucky to have him. I didnt particularly want him here but I was utterly wrong. He really is very high quality.
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So our last 2 league games we beat Forest 1-0 who beat Arsenal, and beat (the team that have been lauded for how great they played against Man City) Bristol City 5-0.
We looked in control tonight, let's keep the momentum going who's next?
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Classic Bruceball = Defend, hope for a goal. There is no attacking tactics, method or blueprint.
Assume you didn't watch the game? We controlled it to the Terry header and then again for 30 mins on the 2nd half.
In fairness to him, most of the match thread were predicting doom based on the 10 minutes to the end of the first half so he wasn't alone.
He made two comments. One criticising our fans, the other criticising the manager after the win. Now, I'm not about to sit here and say the world is perfect, but the tactic that stood out was not to give Forest any clear cut chances which we managed to do. They got more and more frustrated all game. It's not the most aesthtically pleasing approach but it was the approach. He's either a whiny bastard or a troll. One of the two.
You are the one whining, maybe stick to Ice Hockey, mate. >:(
Why do you have a giant 'NOT' in your username? It's irritating.
We won. Enjoy.
Why on earth would he enjoy it?
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I never thought I would ever say this but John Terry is the best player I have seen in a Villa shirt in years.
God like?
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Classic Bruceball = Defend, hope for a goal. There is no attacking tactics, method or blueprint.
Assume you didn't watch the game? We controlled it to the Terry header and then again for 30 mins on the 2nd half.
In fairness to him, most of the match thread were predicting doom based on the 10 minutes to the end of the first half so he wasn't alone.
He made two comments. One criticising our fans, the other criticising the manager after the win. Now, I'm not about to sit here and say the world is perfect, but the tactic that stood out was not to give Forest any clear cut chances which we managed to do. They got more and more frustrated all game. It's not the most aesthtically pleasing approach but it was the approach. He's either a whiny bastard or a troll. One of the two.
You are the one whining, maybe stick to Ice Hockey, mate. >:(
Why do you have a giant 'NOT' in your username? It's irritating.
We won. Enjoy.
Because it's an abbreviation: Nose On Tour?
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I never thought I would ever say this but John Terry is the best player I have seen in a Villa shirt in years.
You always sum it up very well Brian. It's been bad.
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And still people want Bruce out! The most successful manager in the Championship at getting teams promoted!
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Classic Bruceball = Defend, hope for a goal. There is no attacking tactics, method or blueprint.
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Classic Bruceball = Defend, hope for a goal. There is no attacking tactics, method or blueprint.
Assume you didn't watch the game? We controlled it to the Terry header and then again for 30 mins on the 2nd half.
In fairness to him, most of the match thread were predicting doom based on the 10 minutes to the end of the first half so he wasn't alone.
He made two comments. One criticising our fans, the other criticising the manager after the win. Now, I'm not about to sit here and say the world is perfect, but the tactic that stood out was not to give Forest any clear cut chances which we managed to do. They got more and more frustrated all game. It's not the most aesthtically pleasing approach but it was the approach. He's either a whiny bastard or a troll. One of the two.
You are the one whining, maybe stick to Ice Hockey, mate. >:(
Why do you have a giant 'NOT' in your username? It's irritating.
We won. Enjoy.
Why on earth would he enjoy it?
Ah, I'm beginning to understand.
It's inconceivable to me to register on another team's fansite and follow their game.
It's been a long night, and 5am here now. Off to bed. Good win. Thought we looked very solid tonight, and enjoyed watching Snodgrass.
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And still people want Bruce out! The most successful manager in the Championship at getting teams promoted!
I want him out if he doesn't get us promoted this season. It's what he is here to do. If it doesn't look likely as has oft been the case this season, then he can have no complaints.
Assuming we play to the table in the next 4 games he should have little problem staying until well into April.
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I also think when Jack Grealish had his blood transfusion after his liver operation they smuggled in a quart of Mo Farah's.
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Classic Bruceball = Defend, hope for a goal. There is no attacking tactics, method or blueprint.
You sound like a customer rather than fan...,are you bipolar?
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I also think when Jack Grealish had his blood transfusion after his liver operation they smuggled in a quart of Mo Farah's.
I'm delighted there is now a permanently role for him in the side. He looks like he's really matured and is much stronger and fitter as you suggest.
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I also think when Jack Grealish had his blood transfusion after his liver operation they smuggled in a quart of Mo Farah's.
I think he had played well since Sheff Utd (only inventive one on either side that night)
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Very professional job, should have put it to bed early in the second half when we had a lot of possession, but we were never really in trouble. Glad for Hogan to get another goal, impressed with Bjarnason in the second half, won the ball back a few times and kept things simple.
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Jack is becoming the player we all hoped he would.
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And still people want Bruce out! The most successful manager in the Championship at getting teams promoted!
Yes if he doesn’t win 3 out of next 4 he can take a hike.
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11207062/nott8217m-forest-0-1-aston-villa)
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Very professional job, should have put it to bed early in the second half when we had a lot of possession, but we were never really in trouble. Glad for Hogan to get another goal, impressed with Bjarnason in the second half, won the ball back a few times and kept things simple.
Agree 100%, everyone knew their job and stuck to it. Well done Scott Hogan, more please. Oh and I suppose John Terry is a very good captain and defender, there I've said it.
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Good result and a much needed win given other results today. Some good periods of play mixed poorer periods with too many hopeful (and pretty hopeless at times) long balls.
Thought the defence looked solid throughout though and thought Bjarnason did well when he came on in the holding role. If we can field that back four on a regular basis with Jedinak in front of them then we should be strong at the back for the remainder of the season.
We didn’t really fire going forward today, but I thought Grealish, Hogan, Snodgrass and Hourihane all had their moments with only Adomah looking a bit out of sorts.
Agree with all of that, Tom but I can forgive them as it was such an important game where we had to take the three points. The effort and determination shown tonight was superb. They'll be a few tired legs that will need to rest but you can see from the reaction of the players at the end, they know what needs to be done and there's a strong collective spirit in the squad.
Job done. We can hopefully play a lot better in the coming weeks but today we couldn't afford to fail and everybody put their body on the line to push us over. Barnsley will be another good test but at least we know we're now mentally strong and we have the talent in the squad to go and beat anbody. It's been a long time coming.
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We seem to be developing an ability to grind results out reasonably consistently. Which reminds me of the last time we were at this level under SGT. I look back on that season fondly as I had just left school and it was my first season of going to away games regularly. But for every 'glory game' that sticks in the memory there were a lot of slogs with narrow wins, draws and defeats. On that subject it has probably been mentioned elsewhere but SGT passed away a year ago today.
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I also think when Jack Grealish had his blood transfusion after his liver operation they smuggled in a quart of Mo Farah's.
and a quart of Schwarzenegger's. He's become rather good now at going over only at the right times, but also standing his ground when needed.
I believe we are now seeing Jack taking a more responsible role in the team, but most importantly, handling it.
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We seem to be developing an ability to grind results out reasonably consistently. Which reminds me of the last time we were at this level under SGT. I look back on that season fondly as I had just left school and it was my first season of going to away games regularly. But for every 'glory game' that sticks in the memory there were a lot of slogs with narrow wins, draws and defeats. On that subject it has probably been mentioned elsewhere but SGT passed away a year ago today.
Couldn't agree more. For all that was wrong tonight the result was all, and during that season that was all that mattered.
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A good away win, so well done to all, players and Steve, keep it up 😀
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Steve Bruce (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11207126/bruce-we-were-worthy-winners)
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Grinding out results is precisely what Bruce teams do. And it works at this level because he has managed to do that successfully in previous promotions. It just isn’t enough at PL level because there are just too many good teams that take advantage of that approach. I was just watching highlights of Spurs v Everton and Spurs tore Everton a number of new holes. Their movement and finishing was so clinical. I’d be scared to death if Bruce was manager.
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11207062/nott8217m-forest-0-1-aston-villa)
That was a very good goal. Looked easier than it was.
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We seem to be developing an ability to grind results out reasonably consistently. Which reminds me of the last time we were at this level under SGT. I look back on that season fondly as I had just left school and it was my first season of going to away games regularly. But for every 'glory game' that sticks in the memory there were a lot of slogs with narrow wins, draws and defeats. On that subject it has probably been mentioned elsewhere but SGT passed away a year ago today.
Couldn't agree more. For all that was wrong tonight the result was all, and during that season that was all that mattered.
I have been there to see us win the European cup, European Super cup and League (Coca Cola) cup but I would never hesitate to name a goalless draw away to Swindon alongside those games as my best memories of following Villa.
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Good win despite a nervy end. That said Forest failed to trouble us. Some pleasing performances, Jack, Barney were really good. Defensively sound. Hogan runs his heart out. Well done Bruce and all concerned. Would like to see us take the game to the opposition in the last ten minutes rather than hang on. But, really good result and solid. Good to have JT back.
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I never thought I would ever say this but John Terry is the best player I have seen in a Villa shirt in years.
Have to say I was sceptical when he signed that he would almost go through the motions, but proved me totally wrong and has been brilliant. His winning attitude seems to have rubbed off on some players. Have to say I can imagine him speaking to Jack and telling him to make the most of his ability and his attitude is top notch
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We were the kings of Swindon that day. Every one of us.
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Main surprise for me was how negative the match thread was.
You’ve been on this site before right?
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A very good win. This is the business end of the season, We are comfortably in the top six now,with second easily within reach.
And never underestimate the Yam Yam's ability to implode.
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I never thought I would ever say this but John Terry is the best player I have seen in a Villa shirt in years.
Have to say I was sceptical when he signed that he would almost go through the motions, but proved me totally wrong and has been brilliant. His winning attitude seems to have rubbed off on some players. Have to say I can imagine him speaking to Jack and telling him to make the most of his ability and his attitude is top notch
Hoped against hope he would do for us what Keegan did as a player at Newcastle in early 80s and got them promoted
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Good result and a much needed win given other results today. Some good periods of play mixed poorer periods with too many hopeful (and pretty hopeless at times) long balls.
Thought the defence looked solid throughout though and thought Bjarnason did well when he came on in the holding role. If we can field that back four on a regular basis with Jedinak in front of them then we should be strong at the back for the remainder of the season.
We didn’t really fire going forward today, but I thought Grealish, Hogan, Snodgrass and Hourihane all had their moments with only Adomah looking a bit out of sorts.
Agree with all of that, Tom but I can forgive them as it was such an important game where we had to take the three points. The effort and determination shown tonight was superb. They'll be a few tired legs that will need to rest but you can see from the reaction of the players at the end, they know what needs to be done and there's a strong collective spirit in the squad.
Job done. We can hopefully play a lot better in the coming weeks but today we couldn't afford to fail and everybody put their body on the line to push us over. Barnsley will be another good test but at least we know we're now mentally strong and we have the talent in the squad to go and beat anbody. It's been a long time coming.
Agree RCF and I thought we played some decent stuff when we got the ball down.
At the end of the day though we have to remember we are a second tier side and haven’t got the quality we have been used to in years gone by, so I suppose we have to adjust our expectations accordingly. With that in mind, I think performances away from home like today are decent enough for where we are at.
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I also think when Jack Grealish had his blood transfusion after his liver operation they smuggled in a quart of Mo Farah's.
and a quart of Schwarzenegger's. He's become rather good now at going over only at the right times, but also standing his ground when needed.
I believe we are now seeing Jack taking a more responsible role in the team, but most importantly, handling it.
There was a good article with Jack on the official website the other day and I think he has realised after that injury to make the most of his undoubted talent. Loved his tracking back again today and rarely lost the ball.
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We were the kings of Swindon that day. Every one of us.
I remember one of the lads who always stood with us on the Holte but had travelled seperately to us bonnet surfing on our car as we were in traffic coming away from the ground. We also tried to flag down a 'Mr Whippy' ice cream van on the motorway on the way home. I obviously remember the scenes trying to get into the ground and the scenes when news of our promotion was confirmed. I also recall getting my maths wrong in all the chaos and being convinced that a draw wasn't enough whatever happened elsewhere.
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Main surprise for me was how negative the match thread was.
You’ve been on this site before right?
Haha I was going to put as a disclaimer that I hadn't contributed fully to a match thread for a few years now for some reason but considering some of the useless seasons we've had in recent times it does surprise me now we're positioning ourselves nicely in this league people seem to go mad whenever we hit a long ball.
Think it's a combination of things but we need to get fully behind the team (and manager) for the run in now as we've got a decent chance of making second.
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I think Bjork has played himself into the team. What he offers more than Jedinak is a bit of pace and better passing. It’s what we need.
I’m struggling to see what Hourihane now brings to the team. He must be doing something but I think he should be doing more as you hardly know he’s playing at times.
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Main surprise for me was how negative the match thread was.
You’ve been on this site before right?
I was really critical of the team selection last week but in fairness as regarding the League that was a great professional effort by Bruce and the team. Can’t beat a bit of grinding.
And no the match threads are too depressing for me so I give them a miss.
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I love colousis with some black olives, goat cheese and a glass of Retsina
Sausage and egg sandwich with white bread, a dollop of tinned tomatoes and brown sauce, HP naturally.
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I never thought I would ever say this but John Terry is the best player I have seen in a Villa shirt in years.
Have to say I was sceptical when he signed that he would almost go through the motions, but proved me totally wrong and has been brilliant. His winning attitude seems to have rubbed off on some players. Have to say I can imagine him speaking to Jack and telling him to make the most of his ability and his attitude is top notch
Hoped against hope he would do for us what Keegan did as a player at Newcastle in early 80s and got them promoted
We need to do what Newcastle did for Keegan. We should have a whip-round for the farewell helicopter from the centre circle at Villa Park. If we raise enough we could hire Noel Edmunds to fly it.
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Thexse are the sort of games I expected to see lots of when we appointed Bruce and for all the negative things about his approach I'd have accepted 20+ of these and a tense but inevitable run to promotion. I really hope that we have now turned a corner and we can push on from here, winning well where we can, and winning ugly where we need to. He does seem to have eventually realised that letting Grealish and Hourihane play 10-15 yards further forward completely changes how we play so maybe it will stick. What will really show our chances of the top 2 isn't games like this though, it's how we respond to our next defeat, we can't drag everyone deeper to protect the clean sheet as has been his reaction too often, it just doesn't work.
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I may not be one of Bruce's greatest supporters, but credit where credit's due, he made some rather good timely substitutions today.
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I think Bjork has played himself into the team. What he offers more than Jedinak is a bit of pace and better passing. It’s what we need
Is he only now being played in his strongest position?
If so, it's bloody ridiculous.
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We seem to be developing an ability to grind results out reasonably consistently. Which reminds me of the last time we were at this level under SGT. I look back on that season fondly as I had just left school and it was my first season of going to away games regularly. But for every 'glory game' that sticks in the memory there were a lot of slogs with narrow wins, draws and defeats. On that subject it has probably been mentioned elsewhere but SGT passed away a year ago today.
I did hear “There’s only one Graham Taylor” being chanted today which was good to hear.
In terms of grinding out results, I think having a solid defence that can keep sheets will be really important for us going forward. We’ve got enough in the final third to produce moments of quality even when we’re not playing well, so keeping it tight at the back might well be enough to win us games.
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And that. Though HP was never a patch on Flag Sauce made at the Ansell's Brewery. Aston was the brown sauce capital of the known universe.
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I may not be one of Bruce's greatest supporters, but credit where credit's due, he made some rather good timely substitutions today.
The last few games that has seemed to be the case. Almost like he is reading social media prior to making a change
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I think Bjork has played himself into the team. What he offers more than Jedinak is a bit of pace and better passing. It’s what we need
Is he only now being played in his strongest position?
If so, it's bloody ridiculous.
You do wonder. He looked so natural there, why hasn’t it been considered ever before?
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Jack is becoming the player we all hoped he would.
It’s great ain’t it. He makes sure that we keep the ball more and it doesn’t keep coming back on us. If only players in front of him could move more and see the angles. He also needs to pull the trigger more. For me he’s one of the best English players in the country. Southgate are you watching?
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I think Bjork has played himself into the team. What he offers more than Jedinak is a bit of pace and better passing. It’s what we need
Is he only now being played in his strongest position?
If so, it's bloody ridiculous.
You do wonder. He looked so natural there, why hasn’t it been considered ever before?
I am a fan of Jedinak and think he will be a big influence in the remainder of the season and unlike many, I like Whelan and his double block today showed his assets. However, I agree that Bjorn looked born to that role today and he was all over the place and I would start him next game in that role
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Jack is becoming the player we all hoped he would.
It’s great ain’t it. He makes sure that we keep the ball more and it doesn’t keep coming back on us. If only players in front of him could move more and see the angles. He also needs to pull the trigger more. For me he’s one of the best English players in the country. Southgate are you watching?
I hope he isn't. The minute Jack gets in that squad, he'll be on his way from us.
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Nor me. There are international teams out there who would break his legs.
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11207062/nott8217m-forest-0-1-aston-villa)
Surely a team with Adomah, Snodgrass and Grealish attacking should be driving terror into opposition defence and scoring at will.
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Cross of the season from Snodgrass, that was fucking evil.
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It might have been a flattering edit, but Villa looked rather good on Ch5 just now!
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11207062/nott8217m-forest-0-1-aston-villa)
Surely a team with Adomah, Snodgrass and Grealish attacking should be driving terror into opposition defence and scoring at will.
I think we’re a lot more confident and resolute now. It’s not the Bruce way away from home, but I expect it to be more tha tactic and with a reborn Hogan to at teams more.
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Cross of the season from Snodgrass, that was fucking evil.
His one to Terry was every bit as good.
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Cross of the season from Snodgrass, that was fucking evil.
His one to Terry was every bit as good.
The free kick where he had a pop wasn't bad either.
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Cross of the season from Snodgrass, that was fucking evil.
His one to Terry was every bit as good.
True enough, he attacked that one like it had been shagging his missus.
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Today reminded me of the Sunderland game. We got the goal but didnt seem in too much of a hurry to get another. We didnt ever look in too much bother though because they were awful up front. Still, another welcome 3 points on the road.
Oh and the 'Blues, Blues are falling apart' piss take was marvellous.
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Clichéd, but a perfect away performance. We closed Forest down superbly.
My Forest supporting brother-in-law couldn't understand why Forest didn't whip crosses in, self explanatory with Terry and Chester.
Good day.
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We are back on the Bruce treadmill having fallen off in January then climbed back on and if by mistake hit the accelerator against Brizle.
Forest looked nothing like the team that beat Arsenal.
Terry’s organisational experience in abundance today.
4 of the next 6 at home, we have to take 12+ points.
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Very, very professional, but even though Forest were poor the failure to get the second still meant a modicum of suffering... but overall very pleased.
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Cross of the season from Snodgrass, that was fucking evil.
The run from Hogan was better than the cross imo
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I think Bjork has played himself into the team. What he offers more than Jedinak is a bit of pace and better passing. It’s what we need
Is he only now being played in his strongest position?
If so, it's bloody ridiculous.
You do wonder. He looked so natural there, why hasn’t it been considered ever before?
Didnt he play there v Peterborough and was awful according to reports on here :D
Re Andre Green, surprised he wasnt on bench today as would have been the obvious sub for AA, another injury setback?
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Snodgrasses delivery and Hogans movement for the goal was a thing of beauty, Forest looked very poor but I think that was more down to our discipline. .
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I’ve had a few rums in celebration and have come to the conclusion that I no longer give a feck about performances, I just want these wins to continue.
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Classic Bruceball = Defend, hope for a goal. There is no attacking tactics, method or blueprint.
We won, and should have won by more, how about take some joy in that.
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Thor was terrific in that role and if he maintains that level should start every week.
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We’re really starting to look the part and hitting form at the right time. Long way to go but plenty of reasons to be optimistic.
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Great day out. If we can find the second goal it would make life so much easier. A win is a win, however and the push continues. Bjarnason was great second half.
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As many have already said, that was a great, professional, performance today.
Grealish really is maturing and made some exquisite passes today. He has a great football brain which I thought was epitomised today, once in each half, by two long kicks into touch deep in the opposition half which was just what we needed at the time so we could get men forward and press the resultant throw ins.
I was pleased to see Bjarnason, as in the first-half last week, given half a game in the holding role and thought he did really well there.
Again, as others have said, I didn't want Terry in the Summer but he has proved me wrong by his professionalism, and the example he has set both on and off the pitch.
I have been going to Forest away since 1977 and never seen us win there before today so am now off to bed with a smile on my face!
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Great day out. If we can find the second goal it would make life so much easier.
Yep, that's what was bugging me as well. You couldn't really see them scoring but at 1-0, there's always that 'what if' in the back of your mind.
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I have not read the match thread but really thought we were ok today and in control.
Only player who I thought was not at the races today was Albert, but he still worked well defensively .
Jack was superb for me. Top player and he knows now how he haas to improve. The fitness coach who Jack knows seems to have been brilliant and I do wonder if John Terry has had some influence?
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It might have been a flattering edit, but Villa looked rather good on Ch5 just now!
I watched it live on SKY and thought we looked pretty comfortable throughout. I think a lot of it is down to us having a very solid and confident keeper. Who is helped by a lot of experienced players in front of him.
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Thor was terrific in that role and if he maintains that level should start every week.
Said in the thread about him that I would be interested to see him play a bit further forward, in the role that Hourihane plays at the moment. When he is fit, I like Jedinak in the holding role as he's a real presence in there and wins everything. I'd like to see Bjarnason a bit further forward and given licence to make runs into the box like he does for Iceland.
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Thor was terrific in that role and if he maintains that level should start every week.
Said in the thread about him that I would be interested to see him play a bit further forward, in the role that Hourihane plays at the moment. When he is fit, I like Jedinak in the holding role as he's a real presence in there and wins everything. I'd like to see Bjarnason a bit further forward and given licence to make runs into the box like he does for Iceland.
I liked him in that DM role today to be fair. I like Jedinak and Whelan, but he is more mobile
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Thor was terrific in that role and if he maintains that level should start every week.
Said in the thread about him that I would be interested to see him play a bit further forward, in the role that Hourihane plays at the moment. When he is fit, I like Jedinak in the holding role as he's a real presence in there and wins everything. I'd like to see Bjarnason a bit further forward and given licence to make runs into the box like he does for Iceland.
I liked him in that DM role today to be fair. I like Jedinak and Whelan, but he is more mobile
He did well today and agree that he offers more mobility than the two mentioned, but in this league I just like Jedinak's physical presence in there. Good to have another option though.
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OK it’s just one match but if Barny is the permanent solution for Whelan/Jedinak position rather than Onomah than its good news as I can’t see the other three contributing much next season for various reasons.
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The goal was brilliant - I've loved Snodgrass all season....he's a brick and just loves to get stuck in....you almost knew that Forest weren't going to score by the end. Time to get rid of that "almost" and start fucking the fuckers.
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What impressed me most about Grealish was his stamina, questionable in the past but he was still going strong at the end. Still do not believe Bruce gets the best out of the talent he's got but a win is a win.
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What impressed me most about Grealish was his stamina, questionable in the past but he was still going strong at the end. Still do not believe Bruce gets the best out of the talent he's got but a win is a win.
Grealish would be the next coming of <insert name of great past English attacker here> if he played for a wankfest club......
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Before we start annointing Jack Grealish the “next” anything or “he should be on the plane to Russia” he needs to do what he’s doing against PL opponents. I’m as delighted as anyone that he’s shown significant improvement and maturity. But he’s still playing in the Championship vs Championship calibre players. Let’s not get too carried away just yet.
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From my observations the better the opposition the better Jack plays. It is against the bus parkers he has problems.
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You can only judge him by the opposition he has to face at the moment, you could also say that at a premiership club he would be playing with better players it's all relative. but I do remember him running out of steam after sixty minutes but not yesterday he was charging back in to defence. I am not getting carried away but he is by far the most skilful player we have.
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It's against the teams that park the bus that we have better movement off the ball to give Jack more options especially to move it sideways or forward.
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Thought we were solid all over the park including a very off form Adomah (although he did take a ķnock early on)
Although just off side I liked the way Hogan reacted to the great through ball and buried it. He is finally getting better service. Would also give a big mention to Elmo, nothing too spectacular but solid as a rock and rarely do we get threatened down his flank
Terry just oozes class and that rubs off on Chester and the others.
If we had of scored another goal it would have been as perfect an away performance as Preston was earlier in the season. That game for me really showed the potential of this team.
Let's be really positive we just caught up 2 points on the dingles with them still to come to vp
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A very good, hard working and ultimately comfortable performance. A bit squeaky bum at the end but I put that down to years of experience of watching us let last minutes goals in rather than any actual danger.
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Dunno if it's been mentioned before, but how many times have we played against a team with a new manager this season? That usually spells disaster, not any more.
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Bruce deserves some credit for that.
They're a quick side and we compressed it first half and made them rely on crosses which our two centre halves, dominated. He similalrly reacted to putting mobility into the holding role behind the midfield 4 and it enabled Hourihane to oush 10-15 yards hugher up. The result was a surprisngly energetic and excellent performance from Thor, while we actually upped our game a gear second half and was very pleasing to see.
Reminded me a bit of the good sides who came to Villa Park in the nadir of the Premier League where the scoreline flattered us.
At one nil mind you never know but it was a thoroughly deserved and very professional performance.
Snodgrass was excellent in particular.
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Bruce deserves some credit for that.
They're a quick side and we compressed it first half and made them rely on crosses which our two centre halves, dominated. He similalrly reacted to putting mobility into the holding role behind the midfield 4 and it enabled Hourihane to oush 10-15 yards hugher up. The result was a surprisngly energetic and excellent performance from Thor, while we actually upped our game a gear second half and was very pleasing to see.
Reminded me a bit of the good sides who came to Villa Park in the nadir of the Premier League where the scoreline flattered us.
At one nil mind you never know but it was a thoroughly deserved and very professional performance.
Snodgrass was excellent in particular.
Yes. The biggest surprise was BB's performance (I have been a critic of BB till now): will the manager stick with this surprise 'fit' at DMF? - yesterday, he could have taken the easier option of putting Lansbury on.
It'll be a true measure of SB's ability to see whether BB plays or whether Mile returns in the DMF role. And, maybe the answer will lie in how the oppo lines up.
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If Jedinak is fit then he HAS to start in that role. However if he’s not I’d rather give B.B another shot at DM than see whelan in
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I never thought I would ever say this but John Terry is the best player I have seen in a Villa shirt in years.
I’m envious of the Chelsea fans who got to see I’m for years at his ‘peak’
He’s absolutely class and oozes leadership on the field. The amount of times the sky cameras could even pick up him shouting instructions etc he conducts play also from the back for the further forward players, instructing two touch etc
Class 👏🏻
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I never thought I would ever say this but John Terry is the best player I have seen in a Villa shirt in years.
I’m envious of the Chelsea fans who got to see I’m for years at his ‘peak’
He’s absolutely class and oozes leadership on the field. The amount of times the sky cameras could even pick up him shouting instructions etc he conducts play also from the back for the further forward players, instructing two touch etc
Class 👏🏻
Sign him up for another year
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If Jedinak is fit then he HAS to start in that role. However if he’s not I’d rather give B.B another shot at DM than see whelan in
I don't know, Thor's performance in the second half was more effective than I've seen Jedinak be. He broke up play but also distributed the ball well and added much needed energy.
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A well deserved win against a team, who were on a high after their cup win, biggest plus today, BB at last showing the form, he produced for Iceland in the Euros. Also Terry, Jack, Snoddy and Hogan all excellent.
The most pleasing thing for me has been the number of goals, that have come from crosses over the last 5 games, Jedinak v Sheff Utd, Onomah v Brentford, Snodgrass v Boro, Hogan v Bristol and Hogan again yesterday, Terry also hitting the bar. Prior to those games I can't think of a goal, we scored from that source, it's almost as if it suddenly occurred to the coaching staff that was an area of our game that needed work on.
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The effect of Agnew might be the reason for our improved pressing, forward play and goals from crosses
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The effect of Agnew might be the reason for our improved pressing, forward play and goals from crosses
The Agnew someone forgot to list as one of the coaches! Someone in admin is getting a bollocking.
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Thor's playing for a move - he's been beyond shite up until the last fortnight.
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Thor's playing for a move - he's been beyond shite up until the last fortnight.
Or has he come into the side when we needed him and had a decent game? It happens.
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His agent was in Italy this week so still not sure he'll stay if we get a decent offer for him.
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Lansbury surely surplus to requirements considering he didn't get a run against his former side ?
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Pleased to see Villa won despite Forest having a new manager. That kind of thing usually bites us in the arse.
Someone in the press conference yesterday pointed out to Bruce he has faced more new managers than anyone else this season and won the most. Something like 4 in 5?
I was surprised as well but it looks liek Bruce is new manager bounce kryptonite :)
Yes the commentator also mentioned this in his comments after the highlights. I stand corrected!
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Although it was only 1-0, the Terry header against the bar and the Adomah offside goal, it could just as easily have been 3-0. It's the small margins in a game that can make a difference.
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Thor's playing for a move - he's been beyond shite up until the last fortnight.
Fine, if he puts a couple more appearances like that and we get what we paid for him or more back then we benefit twice!
If he is staying and he keeps that level up for the rest of his Villa career then equally great.
Either way I am happy his form has improved.
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I love Snoddy his interview was really great at the end. Gave massive support to Hogan for all his hard work.
I agree, it sounded like he felt something he liked playing for us. He played it nicely against Forest, using his experience to constantly win us free kicks in dangerous areas. You get the feeling hes a good motivator and like's to encourage players around him.
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Depends what division we are in I suppose. If we go up, then his leadership would be really important. If we don't go up and have to tighten our belt financially then we may not be able to keep him.
Footballing wise, a real class act who didn't put a foot wrong yesterday.
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Just been reading a Forest forum and they fucking hate Jack Grealish. It makes me happy that we have players other teams dislike because they're really good at football.
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Thoroughly professional performance. We bought a lot of cheap free kicks, managed the game well at the end and chased together when needed as a team.
Big plus points, Bjarnasson looking much more mobile than the others as a DM. Hogan, brilliant hungry run to get on the end of the cross. Terry, the boss.
The next 4 games, we cannot rest on our laurels. 3 of the bottom 6 at home, go for the kill, win them all. 9/10 pts from the next 4 will cement us in the top 6 and we can focus on chasing Derby down. Get within 2 points of them and we have them near the end of the season, could be the decider.
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One thing is for certain, we've stopped the rot as a club.
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One thing is for certain, we've stopped the rot as a club.
I agree. Bruce took over a basket case and has got us moving in the right direction. I don't like his style of football but we have optimism again.
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One thing is for certain, we've stopped the rot as a club.
I agree. Bruce took over a basket case and has got us moving in the right direction. I don't like his style of football but we have optimism again.
I quite like expecting to get something, be it a win or a draw out of pretty much every game. I had forgotten what that was like for the best part of a decade.
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What was really impressive yesterday was the defensive discipline we showed. Forest really nothing to look at in terms of shooting opportunities. A lot was down to Terry of course and his ability to pull players up a notch but Bruce being a top defender in his day takes credit too. What Bruce has instilled is a dogged determination which is absolutely critical to have at any club. We haven’t had that in a long time.
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Lets not forget that we are now playing in a grossly inferior league, which helps greatly!
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One thing is for certain, we've stopped the rot as a club.
I agree. Bruce took over a basket case and has got us moving in the right direction. I don't like his style of football but we have optimism again.
I would usually agree with you but I've just watched the game back and I really think we we deserved that result. AND we looked classy.
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Lets not forget that we are now playing in a grossly inferior league, which helps greatly!
Indeed but winning is a great habit to have whatever league you're in.
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I don't care what division we are in. If the club is to be turned around we had to stop losing and accepting it. When we are all on the same page then I think we will go back up.
It might be an exageration but I honestly believe John Terry has raised the bar behind the scenes for what is acceptable massively. We need more winners and/or hungry players who want to make a name for themselves.
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I think it's easier to stay in the Premier League than it is to win promotion out of the Championship. You have to be truly awful to get relegated - it took us several attempts to get to that level. I think if this side could be picked up and lifted into the Premier League, it would do ok...drift around the mid to lower part of the table without necessarily getting relegated. So if we did go up, improving where we're weak would help us no end.
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If we went up it we'd find out just how deep Dr Tony's pockets actually are.
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I don't think that would necessarily be the case - the 120 million plus for going up is a big wedge to hide behind.
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Lets not forget that we are now playing in a grossly inferior league, which helps greatly!
A " grossly inferior League ", really ?. Try telling that to Brighton, Huddersfield, Bournemouth, or even Burnley & Newcastle. Lesser or secondary, agreed, but grossly inferior, I don´t think so..................Godzvilla!
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Lets not forget that we are now playing in a grossly inferior league, which helps greatly!
A " grossly inferior League ", really ?. Try telling that to Brighton, Huddersfield, Bournemouth, or even Burnley & Newcastle. Lesser or secondary, agreed, but grossly inferior, I don´t think so..................Godzvilla!
Agree with this. Was chatting in a London barbers on Saturday about football, and the consensus was very much that the top six in the Premier League are head and shoulders above the rest, and then there's essentially fourteen top flight and ten second tier teams with not much between them.
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Lets not forget that we are now playing in a grossly inferior league, which helps greatly!
A " grossly inferior League ", really ?. Try telling that to Brighton, Huddersfield, Bournemouth, or even Burnley & Newcastle. Lesser or secondary, agreed, but grossly inferior, I don´t think so..................Godzvilla!
Agree with this. Was chatting in a London barbers on Saturday about football, and the consensus was very much that the top six in the Premier League are head and shoulders above the rest, and then there's essentially fourteen top flight and ten second tier teams with not much between them.
I disagree, I think there's are 3-4 teams in the championship that could hold their own in the premier league and there are 3-4 in there who would struggle to be mid table in the championship (as Hull and Sunderland have proven). I hate using the m word but winning games creates confidence, and confident players of championship quality will out play premier league players who are accustomed to losing. The dominance of the top 6 has warped things so that a lot of the midtable teams struggle to find form which creates the churn but the quality of the squads in the premier league is far higher than most of the championship. We're one of the top 2-3 squads in this league and yet I'd struggle to name more than 10-12 of our players that I'd be confident of after promotion.
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I think 10-12 is being generous, I'd say 5-6 could hold their own and that's all.
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I mean as squad players and I'm including the loanees.
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Lets not forget that we are now playing in a grossly inferior league, which helps greatly!
What I find strange is your need to put a dampner on what was an excellent away performance which put a smile on my face!
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I think 10-12 is being generous, I'd say 5-6 could hold their own and that's all.
Johnsone
Terry
Chester
Grealish
Hutton (I know, I know but he can do a job at that level)
Snodgrass
Kodjia
Albert
Elmo (possibly)
De Laet (possibly)
Maybe Green & Davis but a bit early to say
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Agree with this. Was chatting in a London barbers on Saturday about football, and the consensus was very much that the top six in the Premier League are head and shoulders above the rest, and then there's essentially fourteen top flight and ten second tier teams with not much between them.
In the barbers, you say? Well, no wonder they’d be head and shoulders above ....
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Thought it was quite a remarkable stat the Terry's booking was his first of the season.
Proof of the theory that some have put forward on here that ex-England captains find it hard to accumulate cards?
This, and Terry's ability to avoid blatant fouls, for me.