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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on December 16, 2017, 04:51:46 PM
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I’ll kick it off. Utter shit. Possession that led to nothing at all. 13 goals in 12 games. Bruce is way out of his depth with the challenge of getting us promoted. The weight of expectation is burying him. We look so devoid of ideas.
Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
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Unacceptable again. Absolutely fucking hopeless. We score nowhere near enough goals.
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If Dr X wants automatic promotion, Bruce should be sacked. Whenever we come up against a side in form we struggle, lacklustre, fail to create anything, same old problem. If Dr X is happy to scrape into the play offs, then Bruce will stay.
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Dire. Jack is the only one that comes out with any credit.
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Unacceptable again. Absolutely fucking hopeless. We score nowhere near enough goals.
Starting with no strikers doesn't help. Not convinced with Onomah. I don't see what he does.
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Utter shite
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On the off chance we stay in the top 6 we've got no chance of going up. We beat no one who is near the top of the table.
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Gave them the win with that atrocious team selection. Not only are we dropping like a stone but we're doing it in the meekest way we can. I know I said earlier in the week we needed to stick with Bruce, but that doesn't mean I've changed my mind about him. He's crap and I hate our football.
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A season that could fizzle could out in the next few weeks.
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Spend the money and go get Koeman or Frank De Boer. Neither became bad Managers overnight. Even if end up not going up I’ll be happier with either heading into next season.
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I'm not one bit surprised, there is no way we can go up while absorbing such key injuries. Having said that, the manager is putting a rope 'round his neck putting his faith in Gabby.
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When did we last have a good December?
No doubt Bruce will find more ways of making Christmas even more miserable over the next week or so.
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I understand the injury issues
But this could be shit or bust time, if he gets in some faces in Jan, but does not get results Shooo.
Can anyone realistically see him changing us into an attacking force, problem is I can not imagine who is available to do a short time job.
If we do not go up it must be P45 at the end of the season.
no way another year of King Edward
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A season that could fizzle could out in the next few weeks.
No we will win our next game.
We will be five points off autos by the new Year, and will close that gap when our injured players come back.
It's not that bad guys.
We are doing OK.
We will go up. Please believe it.
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Not playing with a recognised striker was a stupid move by Bruce. I’m sick of his stupidness.
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Spend the money and go get Koeman or Frank De Boer. Neither became bad Managers overnight. Even if end up not going up I’ll be happier with either heading into next season.
Why De Boer? It worked well at Palace. Not sure about Koeman either given Everton's receovery since he left. That said neither would come anyway. Agree that Bruce isnt the answer
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2 shots on target, no forward of any I mean any description until 65 minutes and even a question mark then, he plays a midfielder who has not been a goal threat since joining us on loan as our out ball, but still he is the promotion specialist.
Playing like we did when you have your first choice defence, may just may give us a chance of a point, setting up like we did when some of them are coming in and out all the time suicide and someone please tell me why no one from the 23's are getting a shout now, his saviour for part of this season so far was by necessity not by choice Davis.
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We are going to be in this league a good few seasons I think.
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A season that could fizzle could out in the next few weeks.
No we will win our next game.
We will be five points off autos by the new Year, and will close that gap when our injured players come back.
It's not that bad guys.
We are doing OK.
We will go up. Please believe it.
I really wish I could have your faith in Bruce achieving this.
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Anyone any idea how long this FFP shite will continue to cripple us? We look set to stay in this poxy league for a while and face financial Armageddon. No side can expect to challenge at the top end of this league with the number of goals we score.
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Didn't want Bruce when he came to B6 and despite his lucky streak to get us into the top 6, we are not going to get in the top 2 or stop in the top 6 with Bruce's management of the team.
Totally lacking any panache, this team is not going to score enough goals to be promoted and if they somehow were struck by lightening and we were, we'd be straight back down with this manager, his style of play and the squad he's assembled.
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Massively frustrating second half. It showed Derby for what they were; well organised and very difficult to breakdown which made the stupid mistake for the goal all the more frustrating.
Hogan showed by getting on the end of a few crosses what a striker up there could do. He should have started.
Without Kodjia and Davis we just had no answer to 11 men behind the ball for 45 minutes.
Snodgrass should have scored, but there wasn't enough created.
Whelan was their best player and the only opportunities they had we conspired to give them.
A dicky two games this where we are likely 3 points off the 4 target we'd have earmarked. Important we bounce back quickly to keep the automatics on the horizon heading into January.
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A season that could fizzle could out in the next few weeks.
No we will win our next game.
We will be five points off autos by the new Year, and will close that gap when our injured players come back.
It's not that bad guys.
We are doing OK.
We will go up. Please believe it.
You were smirking when you said that
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Not playing with a recognised striker was a stupid move by Bruce. I’m sick of his stupidness.
To be fair, I wouldn't recognise Hogan or Gabby as strikers.
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Spend the money and go get Koeman or Frank De Boer. Neither became bad Managers overnight. Even if end up not going up I’ll be happier with either heading into next season.
Why De Boer? It worked well at Palace. Not sure about Koeman either given Everton's receovery since he left. That said neither would come anyway. Agree that Bruce isnt the answer
De Boer was manager for 4 games at Palace. It was ludicrous that he was fired. And Koeman did plenty of good things at Southampton and Feyenoord. We pay or managers well. They’d come.
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How many shots on target have we had over the last two games?
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A season that could fizzle could out in the next few weeks.
No we will win our next game.
We will be five points off autos by the new Year, and will close that gap when our injured players come back.
It's not that bad guys.
We are doing OK.
We will go up. Please believe it.
I really wish I could have your faith in Bruce achieving this.
We aren't far off, haven't lost many games and aren't playing particularly well. We have injuries, and a transfer window coming up.
It's really not that bad.
Keep supporting the team and they will turn it round, it's one or two results away from looking much better.
I understand the disappointment but we are doing OK and are still in there.
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It's just so crushingly predictable.
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I think we all predicted that result before hand, Bruce is too negative. The formation doesn't suit some of the players and our lack of goal power is crippling us. I can't see us staying in the top six for too long.
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Bruce has to get us promoted or he's out of a job. But imagine this Villa team against the likes of Man City. Or even Watford and Burnley.
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Why are our crosses from set pieces and open play so woeful?
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Not playing with a recognised striker was a stupid move by Bruce. I’m sick of his stupidness.
To be fair, I wouldn't recognise Hogan or Gabby as strikers.
What’s the point of having them on the bench if that’s the case? Gabby can at lease run around an pressurise defences.
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I think we all predicted that result before hand, Bruce is too negative. The formation doesn't suit some of the players and our lack of goal power is crippling us. I can't see us staying in the top six for too long.
He tried to keep a shape we were used to with a physical focal point, but got it wrong. We probably had more ball and territory today than we will have all season. There wasn't anything negative about it at all. We suffered trying to breakdown 11 men all.second half with Derby being as deep as they possibly could.
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Massively frustrating second half. It showed Derby for what they were; well organised and very difficult to breakdown which made the stupid mistake for the goal all the more frustrating.
Hogan showed by getting on the end of a few crosses what a striker up there could do. He should have started.
Without Kodjia and Davis we just had no answer to 11 men behind the ball for 45 minutes.
Snodgrass should have scored, but there wasn't enough created.
Whelan was their best player and the only opportunities they had we conspired to give them.
A dicky two games this where we are likely 3 points off the 4 target we'd have earmarked. Important we bounce back quickly to keep the automatics on the horizon heading into January.
Not sure what about our current form and games against the top 6 which makes you suggest we will go up automatically. What are you seeing that the rest of us dont?
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Bruce has to get us promoted or he's out of a job. But imagine this Villa team against the likes of Man City. Or even Watford and Burnley.
Does he really care about being sacked though? It might dent his ego but financially, it's not like getting sacked in the real world for being crap at your job. He would walk away with millions.
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It's just so crushingly predictable.
Spot on.
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Another eye bleeding episode of Bruceball .
It’s so slow and tedious to watch.
Onomah is bloody rubbish - what moron thought he could play as a lone striker .
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Bruce has to get us promoted or he's out of a job. But imagine this Villa team against the likes of Man City. Or even Watford and Burnley.
Does he really care about being sacked though? It might dent his ego but financially, it's not like getting sacked in the real world for being crap at your job. He would walk away with millions.
If he has any ambition he would. This is the biggest job he'll ever have and he could be about 180 minutes from losing it.
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Massively frustrating second half. It showed Derby for what they were; well organised and very difficult to breakdown which made the stupid mistake for the goal all the more frustrating.
Hogan showed by getting on the end of a few crosses what a striker up there could do. He should have started.
Without Kodjia and Davis we just had no answer to 11 men behind the ball for 45 minutes.
Snodgrass should have scored, but there wasn't enough created.
Whelan was their best player and the only opportunities they had we conspired to give them.
A dicky two games this where we are likely 3 points off the 4 target we'd have earmarked. Important we bounce back quickly to keep the automatics on the horizon heading into January.
Not sure what about our current form and games against the top 6 which makes you suggest we will go up automatically. What are you seeing that the rest of us dont?
It’s just blind faith in the Manager, that’s all.
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Massively frustrating second half. It showed Derby for what they were; well organised and very difficult to breakdown which made the stupid mistake for the goal all the more frustrating.
Hogan showed by getting on the end of a few crosses what a striker up there could do. He should have started.
Without Kodjia and Davis we just had no answer to 11 men behind the ball for 45 minutes.
Snodgrass should have scored, but there wasn't enough created.
Whelan was their best player and the only opportunities they had we conspired to give them.
A dicky two games this where we are likely 3 points off the 4 target we'd have earmarked. Important we bounce back quickly to keep the automatics on the horizon heading into January.
Not sure what about our current form and games against the top 6 which makes you suggest we will go up automatically. What are you seeing that the rest of us dont?
We're 5th. Crisis.
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Another eye bleeding episode of Bruceball .
It’s so slow and tedious to watch.
Onomah is bloody rubbish - what moron thought he could play as a lone striker .
Onomah isn't rubbish, but he is not a striker either.
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It really is not good enough, and I’m really sorry to some posters but this “ it will be ok just believe “ us rot, guy behind me today, “we’ll its a tough place to come” what so you don’t think we are good enough, then how come he’s still in a job, jeez it makes me so angry. I said 2nd or near after Boxing Day games, or he should go, well he should go
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Massively frustrating second half. It showed Derby for what they were; well organised and very difficult to breakdown which made the stupid mistake for the goal all the more frustrating.
Hogan showed by getting on the end of a few crosses what a striker up there could do. He should have started.
Without Kodjia and Davis we just had no answer to 11 men behind the ball for 45 minutes.
Snodgrass should have scored, but there wasn't enough created.
Whelan was their best player and the only opportunities they had we conspired to give them.
A dicky two games this where we are likely 3 points off the 4 target we'd have earmarked. Important we bounce back quickly to keep the automatics on the horizon heading into January.
Not sure what about our current form and games against the top 6 which makes you suggest we will go up automatically. What are you seeing that the rest of us dont?
We're 5th. Crisis.
Yeah it’s all fine isn’t it !!!!
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Bruce has to get us promoted or he's out of a job. But imagine this Villa team against the likes of Man City. Or even Watford and Burnley.
Does he really care about being sacked though? It might dent his ego but financially, it's not like getting sacked in the real world for being crap at your job. He would walk away with millions.
If he has any ambition he would. This is the biggest job he'll ever have and he could be about 180 minutes from losing it.
But Bruce is just a jobbing manager like Big Sam, Tony Pulis and any number of similar. He will never get the really big clubs but will still manage to make a decent living. I very much doubt that ambition is high on his list at his age. That ship has sailed.
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Sadly a disappointing but predictable result. Even my wife said when she heard we were playing without a recognised striker that we weren't playing to win the game (my wife knows little about football but still knows the importance of a striker). I'm a little uncomfortable with Terry choosing to watch chelski instead of the team that currently pay him. Albrighton loves to watch Villa live, but has he ever attended a Villa match home or away when Leicester have been playing at the same time as us, whether injured or fit. Running up and down a few steps on the holte doesn't buy any favours from me.
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Why are our crosses from set pieces and open play so woeful?
I mentioned this in the match thread. We never look in danger of creating anything from set pieces. When we played Millwall last week they looked more dangerous from our corners than we did!
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Bruce has to get us promoted or he's out of a job. But imagine this Villa team against the likes of Man City. Or even Watford and Burnley.
Does he really care about being sacked though? It might dent his ego but financially, it's not like getting sacked in the real world for being crap at your job. He would walk away with millions.
I don’t doubt his intent, he is just not quite good enough to do the job we need him to.
If he has any ambition he would. This is the biggest job he'll ever have and he could be about 180 minutes from losing it.
But Bruce is just a jobbing manager like Big Sam, Tony Pulis and any number of similar. He will never get the really big clubs but will still manage to make a decent living. I very much doubt that ambition is high on his list at his age. That ship has sailed.
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It's back to 'we've had a horrible one.'
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I'd have thought we'd have lost our tenth in a row based on the overreaction. We're 5th, we need to stay in touch and we are. The gap to Cardiff could well increase and that is going to make it harder but all the shithouses above us have to come to Villa Park and we have half a season and 70 odd points to play for.
Today without a Kodjia we huffed and puffed against "Bruceball" Rowett and his 11 men behind the ball. Most sides would. Derby aren't very good but they are very well organised. Whelan gets his head up, it could have been mighty different. What a bleeding error.
Bruce erred in trying to keep the same shape as we are acustomed to, but it really didn't work. Hopefully Davis will be back next week as Sheffield United are in rank form but come out to try and play.
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It's back to 'we've had a horrible one.'
or '' sometimes you have to hold your hands up ''.
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Mr Bruce is on WM now and thinks we played well and it was mistakes that cost us. Oh and the word horrible was mentioned.
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Massively frustrating second half. It showed Derby for what they were; well organised and very difficult to breakdown which made the stupid mistake for the goal all the more frustrating.
Hogan showed by getting on the end of a few crosses what a striker up there could do. He should have started.
Without Kodjia and Davis we just had no answer to 11 men behind the ball for 45 minutes.
Snodgrass should have scored, but there wasn't enough created.
Whelan was their best player and the only opportunities they had we conspired to give them.
A dicky two games this where we are likely 3 points off the 4 target we'd have earmarked. Important we bounce back quickly to keep the automatics on the horizon heading into January.
Not sure what about our current form and games against the top 6 which makes you suggest we will go up automatically. What are you seeing that the rest of us dont?
We're 5th. Crisis.
Yeah it’s all fine isn’t it !!!!
Congratulations. You are the thousandth poster to reply to an "It's not all bad" post with a variation on "Yes, everything's wonderful" when no-one has said it is.
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Eight league games and one cup game (at present) until we struggle to get a draw against the shite down the road, and our season will be over. You heard it here first!!
Championship football for a few years beckons.
Our problem is that we have far too many old, slow players, who are here collectively until 2020.
Need a clear out of not just players, but all of the crap that have been in charge at Bodymoor Heath for the last 6 years or so.
The munster has spoken!!!
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Crap manager. Yawnfest. Get the potato out. He plays Agbonlahor-that's enough to be sacked. Twat.
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How he can play Onomah instead of Adomah up front can only be down to him getting them confused with each other when doing the team talk.
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I suppose if we flipped it round and were another club near the top of the league, would facing Villa frighten you based on the way we're set up and how we play? I severely doubt it. We can call Derby organised cloggers all we want, but they won against a team that doesn't appear to have an idea of how to construct an attack.
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Derby must have been frightened, they hid in their own half most of the game. Nothing wrong with that if you're confident you can deal with it and when a side is without their two best forwards and the other two are on the bench then it's probably a bet you're willing to make.
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The problems did not start today, to an extent he is restricted in terms of what he can do.
The problem is his mind set, he stumbled on a formula that has bought some success against limited opposition and stuck with it, and even when the personell are not available to make that system work or when it is not working, he has no idea of how to adapt and change.
This is what makes Bruce a limited manager and why he will probably fail.
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This isn't worth insulting each other and falling out over because nobody has been proven right yet. Bruce has stopped us being consistently awful and now we find ourselves candidates for promotion. Who knows how hard a challenge that was after the fuckfest we'd become over the years. For some that's enough. For others it is nowhere near (given the money we've wasted on dog shit footballers). At least respect each other's opinions.
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We don't dominate, we react. And when we do react, we tend to do so too late. Today Hogan should have been on at half time and had twenty odd minutes. If the crowd really do have an effect, why not make friends and influence people by coming out and playing straight away? Ads is right - Derby aren't that good but they weren't tested.
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Derby must have been frightened, they hid in their own half most of the game. Nothing wrong with that if you're confident you can deal with it and when a side is without their two best forwards and the other two are on the bench then it's probably a bet you're willing to make.
they won the game Ads. However they did it, whatever tactics they used they won the game. It's now two straight games without a goal, and barely a shot on target. Dress is up all you want and I agree that lying 5th isn't a crisis, but the trend is really alarming. If we want to go up we have to find ways to beat teams like Millwall and Derby however they choose to play against us.
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No surprise whatsoever. We stumble through a few wins and draws, then we stumble through a few defeats and draws. Two steps forward, one and a half back. Even If spudhead does get us up we will be leaving a trail of slime behind us, his football stinks.
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Derby must have been frightened, they hid in their own half most of the game. Nothing wrong with that if you're confident you can deal with it and when a side is without their two best forwards and the other two are on the bench then it's probably a bet you're willing to make.
To be fair we're the lowest scorers in the top 8, so even with fit strikers it would seem to be a decent bet. We simply do not attack well enough.
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We don't dominate, we react. And when we do react, we tend to do so too late. Today Hogan should have been on at half time and had twenty odd minutes. If the crowd really do have an effect, why not make friends and influence people by coming out and playing straight away? Ads is right - Derby aren't that good but they weren't tested.
Exactly. What did Scott Carson actually have to do today apart from taking goal kicks??
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Mistake one trying to play without a target man
Mistake two taking whelan off. Despite his howler he is the natural holding midfield player Onomah again struggled to lace his own laces today
One minute of gabby is far too much. Surely there were better prospect sitting in the away stand.
All I want for Christmas- need a hell of a lot judging by that
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Sat here in Thailand Ads, I did not have the pleasure of being close up and personnel, but did have a very good stream and to say Derby were camped in there own half, I have been Trumped and Putined into watching fake news on the internet, Oh my God the end of the world is nigh, there even faking the Villa.
Most of our play was across and back, Taylor in his own half has not got a clue what to do, never mind in theirs, Whelan well he had a brain freeze, Elmo made Hutton look like Cafu, Jedi was still on Bondi. Derby were that crap and we were that good that we had 2 shots on target maybe 3 all game, Rowett owned Bruce, give them the ball until they get into our half and press them, we still had chances to create wide, but then we had no one in the middle, high ball or low. I would love to see the Villa heat map apart from corners in the Derby box.
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We saw different things then.
When we win I hate the absence of any sort of media pressence down here. I welcome it when we lose.
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Absolute best case scenario this season is to finish 6th.
Then we play all the teams we will have lost two in the playoffs. Awesome!!
Flat track bullies beating the garabage at the bottom of the league. Found out when playing anyone in the top 10 or so.
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If the season finished now we'd have Derby. If we finished 6th we'd play Bristol and we drew with them.
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Massively frustrating second half. It showed Derby for what they were; well organised and very difficult to breakdown which made the stupid mistake for the goal all the more frustrating.
Hogan showed by getting on the end of a few crosses what a striker up there could do. He should have started.
Without Kodjia and Davis we just had no answer to 11 men behind the ball for 45 minutes.
Snodgrass should have scored, but there wasn't enough created.
Whelan was their best player and the only opportunities they had we conspired to give them.
A dicky two games this where we are likely 3 points off the 4 target we'd have earmarked. Important we bounce back quickly to keep the automatics on the horizon heading into January.
Not sure what about our current form and games against the top 6 which makes you suggest we will go up automatically. What are you seeing that the rest of us dont?
We're 5th. Crisis.
Didnt refer to a crisis. Cardiff win tonight we are 10 points off second
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Massively frustrating second half. It showed Derby for what they were; well organised and very difficult to breakdown which made the stupid mistake for the goal all the more frustrating.
Hogan showed by getting on the end of a few crosses what a striker up there could do. He should have started.
Without Kodjia and Davis we just had no answer to 11 men behind the ball for 45 minutes.
Snodgrass should have scored, but there wasn't enough created.
Whelan was their best player and the only opportunities they had we conspired to give them.
A dicky two games this where we are likely 3 points off the 4 target we'd have earmarked. Important we bounce back quickly to keep the automatics on the horizon heading into January.
Not sure what about our current form and games against the top 6 which makes you suggest we will go up automatically. What are you seeing that the rest of us dont?
We're 5th. Crisis.
Didnt refer to a crisis. Cardiff win tonight we are 10 points off second
Which they are
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In-form Derby boosted their promotion hopes with a win over play-off rivals Aston Villa, who remain fifth but are now winless in three games and just one point clear of seventh-placed Leeds.
Aston Villa manager Steve Bruce told BBC WM: "Mistakes were what cost us the match really and we're always chasing from the first minute - the number of times we've surrendered possession and unfortunately in a big game you can't make mistakes like that because they cost you.
"Overall, in a big game, we can't make the elementary mistakes we made today."
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Just got back having cogitated on the game.
Our MF was really poor today. Hourihane is pretty poor and struggled to make sensible decisions. Onomah was awful again - his passing is so wayward. Snodgrass again gives the ball away too much. Whelan just looks shot.
Adomah and Grealish were good.
Hogan showed more in his game than we've seen from him to date.
However, leaving aside individual performances, my concern is as it has been throughout hte current maanger's tenure: our ball-holders do not make quick enough decisions, we slow the ball down, we have very few runners making space for the passer; we lack dynamism and thereofre get closed down too easily.
It is not looking good.
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Strange that he talks about surrendering possession a lot - I mean usually, yeah, we do, but we had far more of the ball according to the stats.
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Match went completely as I expected then.
We could easily play Derby at some stage in the play offs. That's the problem with relying on that as a method to go up but looks with every week now that's going to be our only way up as we get close to top 2 and then predictably stop winning and scoring.
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The good thing about today was being able to get back at a reasonable time. Grealish was the only positive aspect.
However I did think Derby were rather like ourselves, not that much pace or flair to go with a lot of experience and they didn't particularly keep the ball well either.
However they were better than us at playing without the ball. Once ahead they were happy to sit back mostly but they were well organised and we couldn't break them down.
Even allowing for injuries, the paucity of attacking options all season has demonstrated a very poor lack of foresight.
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Even allowing for injuries, the paucity of attacking options all season has demonstrated a very poor lack of foresight.
Blowing most of the transfer budget on Hogan is the main problem.
Turning out to be an awful decision.
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The problem isn't so much Hogan, but Hogan and friends; the 20 million on the three players who aren't here any loner and Elphick is a colossal waste.
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In-form Derby boosted their promotion hopes with a win over play-off rivals Aston Villa, who remain fifth but are now winless in three games and just one point clear of seventh-placed Leeds.
Aston Villa manager Steve Bruce told BBC WM: "Mistakes were what cost us the match really and we're always chasing from the first minute - the number of times we've surrendered possession and unfortunately in a big game you can't make mistakes like that because they cost you.
"Overall, in a big game, we can't make the elementary mistakes we made today."
Translation: obviously we knew that we weren't going to score - we don't really score goals. The sensible thing to do was bet the farm on the 0-0, then Whelan fucked it up in the first half and the game's gone. What could I have done?
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Calm the fuck down. We don’t have a divine right to beat teams.
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Derby must have been frightened, they hid in their own half most of the game. Nothing wrong with that if you're confident you can deal with it and when a side is without their two best forwards and the other two are on the bench then it's probably a bet you're willing to make.
To be fair we're the lowest scorers in the top 8, so even with fit strikers it would seem to be a decent bet. We simply do not attack well enough.
Spot on. We don't score anywhere near enough goals to get promoted. Just can't see it changing under bruce
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Calm the fuck down. We don’t have a divine right to beat teams.
No, but maybe we could work out other ways to do so?
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Calm the fuck down. We don’t have a divine right to beat teams.
no but teams who are seeking promotion find ways to do it. How are Cardiff with next to no money doing it? Would you swap their squad for ours?
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No I wouldn’t. I just think this forum overreacts every time we don’t win.
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It overreacts when we win too. Welcome to football.
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The points gap between us and second is the same as between us and 16th. Doesn't strike me as much of an overreaction to not be overly happy tonight.
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Got on a plane at ten to three with high spirits. Landed at 6.30pm switched on phone, still optimistic and had my hopes smashed like a cheap fackin vase. I take it we didn’t play well? How did Jack play?
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Don't normally bet against us but 7/5 for Derby today was too good a price.
No surprise at all - we have buckled or bottled against all the better teams this year seemingly.
Next week is huge - Blades are currently playing shite so need a win.
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Calm the fuck down. We don’t have a divine right to beat teams.
No no one has a divine right to win and divine right doesn’t win you football matches. Football matches are won by skill, method, hardwork and more effort than the opposition.
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No I wouldn’t. I just think this forum overreacts every time we don’t win.
Maybe so but our record against the better sides in the league, particularly away from home, is becoming a bit of a concern.
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Got on a plane at ten to three with high spirits. Landed at 6.30pm switched on phone, still optimistic and had my hopes smashed like a cheap fackin vase. I take it we didn’t play well? How did Jack play?
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It was not our worst performance but we never looked like we would score.
I thought Jack was the best player on the pitch, looked a class above in my opinion.
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Got on a plane at ten to three with high spirits. Landed at 6.30pm switched on phone, still optimistic and had my hopes smashed like a cheap fackin vase. I take it we didn’t play well? How did Jack play?
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It was not our worst performance but we never looked like we would score.
I thought Jack was the best player on the pitch, looked a class above in my opinion.
Thanks for the info. UTV.
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Not many positives tonight. I guess the best we can say is this is the first game we have lost since Terry got injured (not including that game obviously). I think we really miss his leadership, passing and drive. If we can get through the next couple of games unscathed, then when he is back the results will improve.
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Lowlights (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11173808/derby-2-0-aston-villa)
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Not many positives tonight. I guess the best we can say is this is the first game we have lost since Terry got injured (not including that game obviously). I think we really miss his leadership, passing and drive. If we can get through the next couple of games unscathed, then when he is back the results will improve.
They probably will because the acting like a boxer who's waiting for the opposition to punch himself out relies on having the best defence you can get. The problem with it is that once you come up against someone that has the firepower to hurt you any mistake you make can be the opening they need to beat you.
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I didnt think we played that bad to be honest but we didn't look like scoring. We seemed to try and walk it in at times instead of shooting. Disapointed but we're still amongst it.
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The major concern for me is that now sides outsides of playoff spots have closed the gap. A few weeks back we had a decent cushion. So it’s not just that we are losing ground around and above us, but below us. We’re not scoring, so conceding even once puts us under immense pressure. And outside of QPR we’ve been terrible when going behind.
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Still think we will scrape play-offs. Just.
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The points gap between us and second is the same as between us and 16th. Doesn't strike me as much of an overreaction to not be overly happy tonight.
But no worries we will turn in go jetters pretty soon and zap the baddies and zoom up into the stars on our jet pads.
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As predictable as an English batting collapse. Our form against the top sides is a big concern but we've players coming back and the window to come so we'll improve again I reckon.
Still expecting a play off spot but after today i think automatic is gone.
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Losing Kodjia is proving to be massive. Particularly with no fit strikers on from the start. Albert has done really well, but losing a 19 goal striker is huge. Too many injuries to key players has caught up...
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Giving away goals like the first is unacceptable at this level.....or any fuckin level for that matter.
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I didnt think we played that bad to be honest
Of course you didn't.
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How about everyone knocks off the petty point scoring. Debate and disagree with each other as much as you want, but this petty shite stops now.
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Giving away goals like the first is unacceptable at this level.....or any fuckin level for that matter.
It really is awful. The other thing that upsets me in those highlights, and plenty of other times this season, is the amount of times our players struggle with basic technique, for example, first derby chance Taylor tackles with completely the wrong foot, then later there's a fucking horrible shot from Snodgrass. These are technical skills which professional footballers should know and that they should do often enough in training that they're just natural. Onomah (I think) planting his feet trying to head away a corner is pretty poor as well.
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It’s not just under Bruce we can’t do the basics. It’s been years since we have looked like competent footballing side.
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I didnt think we played that bad to be honest
Of course you didn't.
And your point is?
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How about everyone knocks off the petty point scoring. Debate and disagree with each other as much as you want, but this petty shite stops now.
Get her. Joke by the way.
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First away since Cardiff.
Record against the team's above us....Wolves away lost, Cardiff away Lost, Bristol City away Draw, Derby away Lost. Not great is it?
Observations....Grealish was the best player on the pitch. Whelan played well until his mistake. Looked fairly solid at the back but Taylor was abysmal going forward. When we got near the box the midfielders were looking for a striker who wasn't there. Never looked like scoring although Hogan looked sharp to be fair.
What has happened to our away support? Good numbers as always but not that noisy. Limited songs, reminding me of Everton, two songs.....come on youngsters get it sorted!!!!
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I didnt think we played that bad to be honest but we didn't look like scoring. We seemed to try and walk it in at times instead of shooting. Disapointed but we're still amongst it.
The play offs.
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I didnt think we played that bad to be honest but we didn't look like scoring. We seemed to try and walk it in at times instead of shooting. Disapointed but we're still amongst it.
I get the point, but I think it's close to an oxymoron in the context of what our ambition/should be. If we don't look like scoring we are by definition playing badly given what we're trying to achieve this season.
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Always looked like a loss with Davis out.
Would like to see O’Hare playing more in this situation. Hogan seems a waste of space.
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Always looked like a loss with Davis out.
Would like to see O’Hare playing more in this situation. Hogan seems a waste of space.
Hogan is a waste of space in a Bruce team. There's a player there, but as we're currently constituted I'd rather see Dave Lee Travis play Macbeth.
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Always looked like a loss with Davis out.
Would like to see O’Hare playing more in this situation. Hogan seems a waste of space.
Hogan is a waste of space in a Bruce team. There's a player there, but as we're currently constituted I'd rather see Dave Lee Travis play Macbeth.
I take your point SE, but I would rather see Clodagh Rodgers play Goneril.
I was there today, and I would have to say that we were not up to much. Not quite ghastly but erring on the side of mediocrity.
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We have some players who should be more than good enough for that division.
We have a manager who knows to the players strengths. Davis was taken ill overnight, so we will put Onomah, who I think will be a fine centre midfielder but not an attacking one, gets chosen to be centre forward. His response must have been WTF, and many she people would have thought WTF themselves. However, it gives the manager a chance to involve the supposed best trainer Jack Grealish, who also happens to be a very good player.
I just hope the manager can realise he has decent players and tries to be more offensive
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I spent the afternoon consulting NF C 15-100, the French electricity wiring regulations. I then rewired our bedroom to add 6 plugs. I completely forgot about the game. I wasn't shocked at the result though.
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What a toothless,gutless, poor performance that was.If we didn’t have the best keeper in the league it could have been five or six. Just depressing.
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What a toothless,gutless, poor performance that was.If we didn’t have the best keeper in the league it could have been five or six. Just depressing.
Why are you reviewing the Millwall game from last week?
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Always looked like a loss with Davis out.
Would like to see O’Hare playing more in this situation. Hogan seems a waste of space.
Hogan is a waste of space in a Bruce team. There's a player there, but as we're currently constituted I'd rather see Dave Lee Travis play Macbeth.
Agree that our youngsters should be given more gametime, preferably ahead of Onomah.
Hogan actually had a really good headed effort that perhaps should have done better, and his movement up front made a bit of a difference.
But, crumbs of comfort for what was a poor performance.
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Always looked like a loss with Davis out.
Would like to see O’Hare playing more in this situation. Hogan seems a waste of space.
Hogan is a waste of space in a Bruce team. There's a player there, but as we're currently constituted I'd rather see Dave Lee Travis play Macbeth.
One thing’s for sure - Whelan had shit shoes on, the shitty shoe’d bastard
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Went to Derby yesterday; very poor from Villa; clearly we are limited up front The error from Whelan was of schoolboy proportions and sucked the air from the lungs of Villa and energised Derby. The problem with playing Grealish is that much of his work is wasted because there is a lack of understanding from his team mates(essentially they are not sharp enough). Our attacks are very very slow and hence the opposition cannot fail to have large numbers of men behindthe ball.
Bruce has been unlucky with injuries but even if Villa were to get promoted it is abundantly clear that most of the team would not be suitable for a high level.
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If Dr X wants automatic promotion, Bruce should be sacked. Whenever we come up against a side in form we struggle, lacklustre, fail to create anything, same old problem. If Dr X is happy to scrape into the play offs, then Bruce will stay.
A season that could fizzle could out in the next few weeks.
No we will win our next game.
We will be five points off autos by the new Year, and will close that gap when our injured players come back.
It's not that bad guys.
We are doing OK.
We will go up. Please believe it.
I'm with you on this! Half a season gone and were in the top 6. In previous years its often the teams who put a good run together after Xmas in the final straight go up. We will get key players back in the New Year too so keep the faith!
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What a toothless,gutless, poor performance that was.If we didn’t have the best keeper in the league it could have been five or six. Just depressing.
Why are you reviewing the Millwall game from last week?
Possibly predicting my post after the Sheffield United game as well ...
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I spent the afternoon consulting NF C 15-100, the French electricity wiring regulations. I then rewired our bedroom to add 6 plugs. I completely forgot about the game. I wasn't shocked at the result though.
I am scratching my head thinking why does BE needs 6 more plugs in his bedroom and it has helped me to take my mind off the game.
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Christ we are mostly a glass half full lot. That was not a Cardiff like performance. 2-0 was not a true reflection of the game. Derby were not very good and to be honest after our stuttering start I think there is only one team better than us at the moment and having watched them somehow scrape a win on Friday night I’m not even sure about that. We’ve been unfortunate with injuries in key areas, but we are only a Kodjia away from pissing this league now. I am nothing like as depressed as I have been by some of the defeats of the last 4 years. Rome wasn’t built in a day
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Whether 2-0 was a reflection of the game or not, it's the score. We also failed to beat Millwall last week. We simply do not score enough goals, so to say we're one player away from pissing the league is a bit of a stretch.
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I spent the afternoon consulting NF C 15-100, the French electricity wiring regulations. I then rewired our bedroom to add 6 plugs. I completely forgot about the game. I wasn't shocked at the result though.
I am scratching my head thinking why does BE needs 6 more plugs in his bedroom and it has helped me to take my mind off the game.
Sorry but this is getting on my nerves now. It's sockets not plugs. Bruce needs to be replaced. We need a moment of inspiration from someone at the club. Someone at Wolves identified Santo, someone at Huddersfield identified Wagner someone at Villa Park desperately needs to step up and have a similar moment of inspiration. I suggested on Friday that we could surprise Derby by going for a. Grealish /Hogan /O'hare combination and I wasn't joking. But no. Old stick in the mud Bruce reverts to type and we go there with no recognised strikers and 5 in midfield. Rowett and his players must have lit up a cigar once they saw the villa team sheet. We have a big injury list for sure but we have spent a fucking relative fortune in this league to be able to cope. It's just not fucking good enough.
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I spent the afternoon consulting NF C 15-100, the French electricity wiring regulations. I then rewired our bedroom to add 6 plugs. I completely forgot about the game. I wasn't shocked at the result though.
I am scratching my head thinking why does BE needs 6 more plugs in his bedroom and it has helped me to take my mind off the game.
Sorry but this is getting on my nerves now. It's sockets not plugs. Bruce needs to be replaced. We need a moment of inspiration from someone at the club. Someone at Wolves identified Santo, someone at Huddersfield identified Warner, someone at Villa Park desperately needs to step up and have a similar moment of inspiration. I suggested on Friday that we could surprise Derby by going for a. Grealish /Hogan /O'hare combination and I wasn't joking. But no. Old stick in the mud Bruce reverts to type and we go there with no recognised strikers and 5 in midfield. Rowett and his players must have lit up a cigar once they saw the villa team sheet. We have a big injury list for sure but we have spent a fucking relative fortune in this league to be able to cope. It's just not fucking good enough.
yep, he's just too tactically safe to cope with this league. Everyone knows what Bruce is going to bring to the table even when he hasn't got the players to do it!
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I'm getting tired of the Jekyl & Hyde performances with injuries or not
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I spent the afternoon consulting NF C 15-100, the French electricity wiring regulations. I then rewired our bedroom to add 6 plugs. I completely forgot about the game. I wasn't shocked at the result though.
I am scratching my head thinking why does BE needs 6 more plugs in his bedroom and it has helped me to take my mind off the game.
Sorry but this is getting on my nerves now. It's sockets not plugs. Bruce needs to be replaced. We need a moment of inspiration from someone at the club. Someone at Wolves identified Santo, someone at Huddersfield identified Warner, someone at Villa Park desperately needs to step up and have a similar moment of inspiration. I suggested on Friday that we could surprise Derby by going for a. Grealish /Hogan /O'hare combination and I wasn't joking. But no. Old stick in the mud Bruce reverts to type and we go there with no recognised strikers and 5 in midfield. Rowett and his players must have lit up a cigar once they saw the villa team sheet. We have a big injury list for sure but we have spent a fucking relative fortune in this league to be able to cope. It's just not fucking good enough.
yep, he's just too tactically safe to cope with this league. Everyone knows what Bruce is going to bring to the table even when he hasn't got the players to do it!
#Wagner. I fkn hate predictive texting!
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Christ we are mostly a glass half full lot. That was not a Cardiff like performance. 2-0 was not a true reflection of the game. Derby were not very good and to be honest after our stuttering start I think there is only one team better than us at the moment and having watched them somehow scrape a win on Friday night I’m not even sure about that. We’ve been unfortunate with injuries in key areas, but we are only a Kodjia away from pissing this league now. I am nothing like as depressed as I have been by some of the defeats of the last 4 years. Rome wasn’t built in a day
Glass half full, or empty? - I'm not sure you know which is which.
I don't know whether you were at the game yesterday but one feature of our performance worried the crap out of me: our 6 midfield players (yes, there were six in the starting line-up) - with the exception of Adomah and Grealish - are not very good. Their passing is poor, they are too slow to distribute the ball, they lack energy and they are not very good at tracking back and closing down. This manager seems to have sucked the lifeblood out of Hourihane; the Whelan we saw in the pre-season games has long gone AWOL; Onomah is a liability throughout; and Snodgrass is so far up himself that no wonder he cannot see the obvious passes.
We'll be in this division for another season if it stays like this.
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Whether 2-0 was a reflection of the game or not, it's the score. We also failed to beat Millwall last week. We simply do not score enough goals, so to say we're one player away from pissing the league is a bit of a stretch.
I think we're one decent manager away from pissing this league and staying up if we get promoted
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I spent the afternoon consulting NF C 15-100, the French electricity wiring regulations. I then rewired our bedroom to add 6 plugs. I completely forgot about the game. I wasn't shocked at the result though.
I am scratching my head thinking why does BE needs 6 more plugs in his bedroom and it has helped me to take my mind off the game.
The shock at the end of his post was brilliantly judged. When added to his back catalogue (cf. Off Topic's poo thread), he's up there with Woodhall as H&V's finest writer, for me.
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Extended highlights..
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Turgid.
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Sam Johnstone had a great game again. It could have been 5 or 6.
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Lad I was with yesterday summed it up perfectly as we walked back to the car - watching us trying to attack without a striker was ‘like watching my Nan trying to eat steak’
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Sam Johnstone had a great game again. It could have been 5 or 6.
He did make sone good saves but 5 or 6 stretching it a bit
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Christ we are mostly a glass half full lot. That was not a Cardiff like performance. 2-0 was not a true reflection of the game. Derby were not very good and to be honest after our stuttering start I think there is only one team better than us at the moment and having watched them somehow scrape a win on Friday night I’m not even sure about that. We’ve been unfortunate with injuries in key areas, but we are only a Kodjia away from pissing this league now. I am nothing like as depressed as I have been by some of the defeats of the last 4 years. Rome wasn’t built in a day
The proof isnt there that we would ever do this
I watched a bit of the Cardiff game last night. No great shakes but they dug out a result. It struck me that I know virtually none of their players and this applies to most championship clubs, However, probably half of our squad are very well known to other champsionship fans simply because they have had careers elsehwere. Conclusion, we are poor at finding up and coming, but unknown, bargains from the lower reaches. We would rather pay big wages and fees to well known mediocre prem players at the end of their careers such as Elphick, Jedinak, Whelan, Elmo, Taylor etc
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Sam Johnstone had a great game again. It could have been 5 or 6.
He did make sone good saves but 5 or 6 stretching it a bit
Nugent x 2 - First half
Forsyth x 1 2nd half
Johnson x 1 2nd half
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There are various online media outlets that gather the news from official sources eg Football Insider etc. At least one of them has the headline ‘Bruce Delivers Brutally Honest Assessment of Villa’s Performance’ each week.
Another emerging theme is his tendency to say he should’ve played ‘x’ or ‘y’ this week. Well why didn’t you play them then.
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I'll deliver a brutal assessment of Bruce's reign.
FUCKING SHIT.
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Sam Johnstone had a great game again. It could have been 5 or 6.
He did make sone good saves but 5 or 6 stretching it a bit
Nugent x 2 - First half
Forsyth x 1 2nd half
Johnson x 1 2nd half
I make that 4.
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4 + 2 = 6
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4 + 2 = 6
Of course. Mind you, thats what a keeper is there for I suppose.
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He's had a great season. Did Carson have to make a save?
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He's had a great season. Did Carson have to make a save?
Not of any note, but we were the better team though :-X
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He's had a great season. Did Carson have to make a save?
Now that’s the bit that fucks me off the most. Playing for us any shot taken from as far back as Lichfield Road had a chance of going in. We don’t take shots.
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He's had a great season. Did Carson have to make a save?
Not of any note, but we were the better team though :-X
Who said we were better team? I've not seen anyone say that I don't think.
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He's had a great season. Did Carson have to make a save?
Not of any note, but we were the better team though :-X
He made one very good save and was lucky to a defender on the line after being beaten by Snoddy's daisy cutter.
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He's had a great season. Did Carson have to make a save?
Not of any note, but we were the better team though :-X
He made one very good save and was lucky to a defender on the line after being beaten by Snoddy's daisy cutter.
Sorry I remember that now, Snoddy should have buried it.
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Didn't want Bruce when he came to B6 and despite his lucky streak to get us into the top 6, we are not going to get in the top 2 or stop in the top 6 with Bruce's management of the team.
Totally lacking any panache, this team is not going to score enough goals to be promoted and if they somehow were struck by lightening and we were, we'd be straight back down with this manager, his style of play and the squad he's assembled.
I love this lucky when we go on a good run but we lose 1 match and it's because Bruce is awful.
Saturday wasn't great but had Whelan not made a ridiculous error it would have been a different game (Bruce can't do anything if our midfielder does that). Even so had Snodgrass hit his shot with any sort of power then he'd have equalised just after half time, and then we had one cleared off the line.
Starting with no strikers was strange but Gabby and Hogan have only just came back from injury and Davis being ill means picking who to play up top was far from ideal and would have been a gamble whoever he picked.
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But we never really win too many games convincingly, so I understand why people think he's a bit lucky when we have a winning streak. Wolves have been turning out some wins by the odd goal recently, but they also play some great stuff and score lots of goals. We're so far behind that, we just don't score enough goals to push us towards the top two. His record against the top teams in the league also confirms this for me.
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Didn't want Bruce when he came to B6 and despite his lucky streak to get us into the top 6, we are not going to get in the top 2 or stop in the top 6 with Bruce's management of the team.
Totally lacking any panache, this team is not going to score enough goals to be promoted and if they somehow were struck by lightening and we were, we'd be straight back down with this manager, his style of play and the squad he's assembled.
I love this lucky when we go on a good run but we lose 1 match and it's because Bruce is awful.
Saturday wasn't great but had Whelan not made a ridiculous error it would have been a different game (Bruce can't do anything if our midfielder does that). Even so had Snodgrass hit his shot with any sort of power then he'd have equalised just after half time, and then we had one cleared off the line.
Starting with no strikers was strange but Gabby and Hogan have only just came back from injury and Davis being ill means picking who to play up top was far from ideal and would have been a gamble whoever he picked.
If Bruce can do nothing to fix things when we go a goal behind (irrespective of how that goal is conceded) then what is the point of paying him a weekly wage that many people on here make in a year? If Snodgrass can't volley a ball properly why aren't our coaches working on it in training? I'd give him the 'excuse' of no strikers if his solution had been anything other than sticking a midfielder up front and crossing his fingers. He's known that Davis was struggling for weeks, not working on another way of playing that lets the attacking midfielders function in a way that can cover things if Davis is injured is poor planning.
Poor planning sums up everything Bruce does really, getting from week to week by beating the poor teams and trying not to lose to the good ones can get you so far, but eventually you get found out.
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Didn't want Bruce when he came to B6 and despite his lucky streak to get us into the top 6, we are not going to get in the top 2 or stop in the top 6 with Bruce's management of the team.
Totally lacking any panache, this team is not going to score enough goals to be promoted and if they somehow were struck by lightening and we were, we'd be straight back down with this manager, his style of play and the squad he's assembled.
I love this lucky when we go on a good run but we lose 1 match and it's because Bruce is awful.
Saturday wasn't great but had Whelan not made a ridiculous error it would have been a different game (Bruce can't do anything if our midfielder does that). Even so had Snodgrass hit his shot with any sort of power then he'd have equalised just after half time, and then we had one cleared off the line.
Starting with no strikers was strange but Gabby and Hogan have only just came back from injury and Davis being ill means picking who to play up top was far from ideal and would have been a gamble whoever he picked.
If Bruce can do nothing to fix things when we go a goal behind (irrespective of how that goal is conceded) then what is the point of paying him a weekly wage that many people on here make in a year? If Snodgrass can't volley a ball properly why aren't our coaches working on it in training? I'd give him the 'excuse' of no strikers if his solution had been anything other than sticking a midfielder up front and crossing his fingers. He's known that Davis was struggling for weeks, not working on another way of playing that lets the attacking midfielders function in a way that can cover things if Davis is injured is poor planning.
Poor planning sums up everything Bruce does really, getting from week to week by beating the poor teams and trying not to lose to the good ones can get you so far, but eventually you get found out.
Oh dear maybe you need to read what I said again we came out after half time and could have equalised had Snodgrass put any power in the shot (was that down to Bruce) and we'd had one cleared off the line (was it down to Bruce that it didn't cross the line).
You really need to take those anti Bruce blinkers off but from someone who has said he didn't want Bruce because of the way he gains his success I doubt that will ever happen.
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Didn't want Bruce when he came to B6 and despite his lucky streak to get us into the top 6, we are not going to get in the top 2 or stop in the top 6 with Bruce's management of the team.
Totally lacking any panache, this team is not going to score enough goals to be promoted and if they somehow were struck by lightening and we were, we'd be straight back down with this manager, his style of play and the squad he's assembled.
I love this lucky when we go on a good run but we lose 1 match and it's because Bruce is awful.
Saturday wasn't great but had Whelan not made a ridiculous error it would have been a different game (Bruce can't do anything if our midfielder does that). Even so had Snodgrass hit his shot with any sort of power then he'd have equalised just after half time, and then we had one cleared off the line.
Starting with no strikers was strange but Gabby and Hogan have only just came back from injury and Davis being ill means picking who to play up top was far from ideal and would have been a gamble whoever he picked.
If Bruce can do nothing to fix things when we go a goal behind (irrespective of how that goal is conceded) then what is the point of paying him a weekly wage that many people on here make in a year? If Snodgrass can't volley a ball properly why aren't our coaches working on it in training? I'd give him the 'excuse' of no strikers if his solution had been anything other than sticking a midfielder up front and crossing his fingers. He's known that Davis was struggling for weeks, not working on another way of playing that lets the attacking midfielders function in a way that can cover things if Davis is injured is poor planning.
Poor planning sums up everything Bruce does really, getting from week to week by beating the poor teams and trying not to lose to the good ones can get you so far, but eventually you get found out.
Oh dear maybe you need to read what I said again we came out after half time and could have equalised had Snodgrass put any power in the shot (was that down to Bruce) and we'd had one cleared off the line (was it down to Bruce that it didn't cross the line).
You really need to take those anti Bruce blinkers off but from someone who has said he didn't want Bruce because of the way he gains his success I doubt that will ever happen.
This is so fucking tedious.
Just saying, like.
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Oh dear maybe you need to read what I said again we came out after half time and could have equalised had Snodgrass put any power in the shot (was that down to Bruce) and we'd had one cleared off the line (was it down to Bruce that it didn't cross the line).
Erm, the Snodgrass shot was the one cleared off the line.
Just saying, like.
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I spent the afternoon consulting NF C 15-100, the French electricity wiring regulations. I then rewired our bedroom to add 6 plugs. I completely forgot about the game. I wasn't shocked at the result though.
I am scratching my head thinking why does BE needs 6 more plugs in his bedroom and it has helped me to take my mind off the game.
First of all apologies to The Edge for not writing sockets. To be fair, English is now my second language.
You can never have too many sockets (unless you have more than 12 on one 16A circuit with 2.5mm wires) I put 3 sockets on each side of the bed. 2 phone chargers, 2 lamps, an alarm clock, one free for another device.
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Oh dear maybe you need to read what I said again we came out after half time and could have equalised had Snodgrass put any power in the shot (was that down to Bruce) and we'd had one cleared off the line (was it down to Bruce that it didn't cross the line).
You really need to take those anti Bruce blinkers off but from someone who has said he didn't want Bruce because of the way he gains his success I doubt that will ever happen.
This is so fucking tedious.
Just saying, like.
Indeed it is, especially seeing as he's now repeated the bold bit 3 times despite me telling him who actually wrote that.
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Oh dear maybe you need to read what I said again we came out after half time and could have equalised had Snodgrass put any power in the shot (was that down to Bruce) and we'd had one cleared off the line (was it down to Bruce that it didn't cross the line).
You really need to take those anti Bruce blinkers off but from someone who has said he didn't want Bruce because of the way he gains his success I doubt that will ever happen.
This is so fucking tedious.
Just saying, like.
Indeed it is, especially seeing as he's now repeated the bold bit 3 times despite me telling him who actually wrote that.
At least he did not acuse you of buying up the bar after the mighty rams won.
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I spent the afternoon consulting NF C 15-100, the French electricity wiring regulations. I then rewired our bedroom to add 6 plugs. I completely forgot about the game. I wasn't shocked at the result though.
I am scratching my head thinking why does BE needs 6 more plugs in his bedroom and it has helped me to take my mind off the game.
First of all apologies to The Edge for not writing sockets. To be fair, English is now my second language.
You can never have too many sockets (unless you have more than 12 on one 16A circuit with 2.5mm wires) I put 3 sockets on each side of the bed. 2 phone chargers, 2 lamps, an alarm clock, one free for another device.
Number of outlets is irrelevant. Radial or Ring main is more relevant protected by an Rccd. I've been an electrician for 20 years. UTV
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Yes but despite your experience, French domestic housebuilding and renovation regulations do stipulate a maximum of 12 sockets on one circuit with 2.5mm section (or 8 on 1.5mm section since 2015).
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'Sorry for being OT! It'll take your mind off the task that now faces us.
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Yes but despite your experience, French domestic housebuilding and renovation regulations do stipulate a maximum of 12 sockets on one circuit with 2.5mm section (or 8 on 1.5mm section since 2015).
Say that again, but slowly this time.
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Grealish was excellent; a shame some of the other players can't put some of Jack's gluey stuff on their feet.
Does anyone know what's happened to Callum O'Hare? Bearing in mind the alternatives at Derby, I would have started him, as I really rate him for his skill and attitude.
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Callum O'Hare was mentioned by Bruce in his press conference today but it seems he's down the pecking order for the '10' role. He's a fan.