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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Tuscans on August 12, 2017, 02:08:59 PM
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Happy with that
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I'll be happy with a win. I have no idea what team will get us there, so I just hope it is this one today.
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Lansbury. Doh!
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Apart from Kodjia coming in for either Gabby or Scott then I think that's our strongest line up which we'll see most of the season.
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Apart from Kodjia coming in for either Gabby or Scott then I think that's our strongest line up which we'll see most of the season.
Jedinak?
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Would like to have seen a striker on the bench. Unless Samba is to be unleashed late on again....
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Apart from Kodjia coming in for either Gabby or Scott then I think that's our strongest line up which we'll see most of the season.
Jedinak?
Would he play Whelan and Jedinak or are you thinking Jed instead of Whelan? I'm not sure on that one.
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Would have had Bree and O'Hare in for Hutton and Lansbury, and a fit Kodjia for Agbonlahor, but that's a decent team.
Think Steer deserved a start after midweek, too, but anyway, come on Villa!
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Rather have Samba up top than Gabby, other than that, not bad.
Oh, ditch bun head too.
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It looks like 4132, and Hutton shouldn't have to get too involved with anything beyond the halfway line. Come on Villa! When is Russon starting up the Soundtrack to Saturday again?
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Apart from Kodjia coming in for either Gabby or Scott then I think that's our strongest line up which we'll see most of the season.
Jedinak?
If whelan is fit he will start ahead of jedinak, you cant play them both together
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Apart from Kodjia coming in for either Gabby or Scott then I think that's our strongest line up which we'll see most of the season.
Jedinak?
If whelan is fit he will start ahead of jedinak, you cant play them both together
Part of me would quite like to see the destruction those two in tandem would cause, though
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Pretty good starting line up but no real options to change things from the bench. Still going for 1-1
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Apart from Kodjia coming in for either Gabby or Scott then I think that's our strongest line up which we'll see most of the season.
Jedinak?
If whelan is fit he will start ahead of jedinak, you cant play them both together
You know he would though hey!
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Apart from Kodjia coming in for either Gabby or Scott then I think that's our strongest line up which we'll see most of the season.
Jedinak?
If whelan is fit he will start ahead of jedinak, you cant play them both together
Part of me would quite like to see the destruction those two in tandem would cause, though
Masochist
Just check any footage of any game that Paul Green and Whelan played together in. Awful stuff altogether.
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I don't suppose its televised at all or radio streams
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i'm presenting my footie show with the obligatory heavy Villa bias 3-5pm today if you wanna listen in, song requests gratefully received provided there's no naughty words in the lyrics....http://www.mearnsfm.org.uk/listen-live
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Well it's not a WTF line up however depends on where Lansbury plays?
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I'm guessing 4-2-3-1
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Well it's not a WTF line up however depends on where Lansbury plays?
Would think it is going to be 4-4-2 and Lansbury is either going to partner Whelan in central midfield with Onomah in the 'number 10' position or vice versa.
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i'm presenting my footie show with the obligatory heavy Villa bias 3-5pm today if you wanna listen in, song requests gratefully received provided there's no naughty words in the lyrics....http://www.mearnsfm.org.uk/listen-live
Legend! hope you had a nice summer!
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Is it on any radio station?
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It's live on RadioWM if you can stomach it.
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Apart from hourihane instead of Henri that's a decent line up.
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Well it's not a WTF line up however depends on where Lansbury plays?
Would think it is going to be 4-4-2 and Lansbury is either going to partner Whelan in central midfield with Onomah in the 'number 10' position or vice versa.
Yes I would like that. That is Onomah at number 10.
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WM, but not on BBC Radio Player as they don't have the rights.
There were some commentary streams on periscope last season, but I can't find one today.
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Apart from hourihane instead of Henri that's a decent line up.
It's not good for Hourihane that a loanee kid has pushed him further out.
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LiveScore have us as 4411
Maybe
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It's live on RadioWM if you can stomach it.
Thanks
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WM, but not on BBC Radio Player as they don't have the rights.
There were some commentary streams on periscope last season, but I can't find one today.
WM have different matches on online, FM and DAB.
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Online radio stream...
http://www.internetradiouk.com/bbc-warwick/
Delete, doesn't work.
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Stream here
https://www.facebook.com/darren.woodley.54/videos/10210152132820506/
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Villa fans in good voice.
Bristol City go 1-0 up at Blose inside the first minute!
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Baker?
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Where's that foxymegan these days.
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Nearly scored - Hogan
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Good chance for hogan
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Then they nearly scored - Johnstone cock-up
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Hogan needs a goal, doesn't look anything like a £9+ player, looks worth about £3m. Johnstone has competition now, if he doesn't do the business theirs no need to keep him in goal.
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We 'nearly' score quite a lot.
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Hogan needs a goal, doesn't look anything like a £9+ player, looks worth about £3m. Johnstone has competition now, if he doesn't do the business theirs no need to keep him in goal.
Relax
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Brizzle City beating the shit.
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Have they stopped free audio stream for ST holders on the club website?
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Have they stopped free audio stream for ST holders on the club website?
Yes.
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Is anyone watching on AVTV? I can't seem to get this thing working.
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Have they stopped free audio stream for ST holders on the club website?
Yes.
Nice. There was me thinking we'd be able to get more video this season and instead there isn't even audio.
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Have they stopped free audio stream for ST holders on the club website?
Yes.
Yup. Commentary used to be free but now £3 per game, or £6 a month/£45 a season.
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Is anyone watching on AVTV? I can't seem to get this thing working.
Mine is working really well. I had to sign in to some HD account thing, using my regular avtv sign in and password.
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Zahore causing lots of trouble to our back 4.
Hutton being targeted time and again.
Whelan sloppy in possession aswell.
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Is anyone watching on AVTV? I can't seem to get this thing working.
Someone is streaming it second hand on facebook
https://www.facebook.com/darren.woodley.54/videos/10210152132820506/
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Shit
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Fuck sake. 1-0 Cardiff.
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Goal Cardiff
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Hutton having a shocker by the sounds of things.
1-0.Mendez-Laing.
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ffs
hutton
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Bollocks
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Bollox!
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Bolx.
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fucking hutton
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Fucking bollocks! Terrible defending.
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Hutton is utterly shocking. He has the odd moment but overall he isn't fucking shit. Works hard my arse. He's been turned inside out all game and looks like he was on the lash last night. Defence is at sixes and sevens. Crap. Just crap.
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Turd of a player. Keeps getting in the side again and again, not going over old ground but he's fucking wank. Painfully slow shit side we've assembled at huge cost to finish about 10th in a terrible division.
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Hutton at fault again - he lost his man for Hull's goal last week as well. Time for Bree or de Laet to step up
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fuckin rubbish defending again
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So game over anyway, might as well fuck off out then waste time watching the inevitable go a goal down defeat.
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what a pile of Shite! Come on Villa!
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Hutton useless, the rest is a faking shambles.
No idea what they are trying to do.
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Ah well there are few errands to be done. See you later all.
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Time for Bruce to show his tactical brilliance...whens Samba going up front?
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Time for Bruce to fuck off the boring potato ******.
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If you are going down the shops Aftab, bring me twenty packets of Paracetamol please.
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Another breathtaking delivery from a free kick
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Not sure if I have made my feelings on Hutton clear. But if not, we'll he's shit. End.
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We don't half fuck about and over complicate things when we attack.
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de laet isnt even on the bench is he
he is so much better than hutton .. I never get this love for Hutton . He cant defend and his Positioning his awful and hardly creates .
Lansbury is wank too
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Adomah coming on.
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teenage fanclub now playing on my footie show to soothe the pain....http://www.mearnsfm.org.uk/listen-live
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Just paid for avtv audio commentary and I can't see to find???!
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Elmo off injured?
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Is the Scottish SNAFU still on the pitch?
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What the fuck do we work on during the week? We have no semblance of a game plan. 3/4 of a season, a pre season and couple of games. Lucky to hold on vs Hull. Squeezed past fucking Colchester and now losing to Neil Fucking Warnock's Mighty Cardiff City. Fuck me.
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de laet isnt even on the bench is he
he is so much better than hutton .. I never get this love for Hutton . He cant defend and his Positioning his awful and hardly creates .
Lansbury is wank too
add Hogan to that list
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Elmo is shit. Whelan is absolute shit, in fact everyone Bruce has bought in is next to fucking useless.
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Another shit free kick
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If you are going down the shops Aftab, bring me twenty packets of Paracetamol please.
Yes will do but I think something much stronger like morphine is required for our pain.
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Elmo off injured?
Went down again behind the goal. Now on a stretcher
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We don't half fuck about and over complicate things when we attack.
What's annoying is when we do put the ball into the box, it's just aimlessly punted in there with nobody in mind.
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Elmo is shit. Whelan is absolute shit, in fact everyone Bruce has bought in is next to fucking useless.
Bruce is the problem
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How come it is the same shit every time? And Elmo probably out for a while if we follow protocol
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Who was deluded enough to think that a garbage side that couldn't score who flopped over the line and finished 14th would get promoted after adding a few old tired old men to the side on their way down whilst not addressing the problems of being unable to score, create or gain control in midfield because ball retention was so bad.
It's delusion to think this side will get promoted.
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I think you sum it up perfectly Mr Underhill.
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Can't keep or move the ball efficiently in midfield, standfast a hopeful punt over the top.They've managed to isolate Hutton at every opportunity,and he's been totally lacking.It's going to be a long afternoon now with them looking to get it to their quick front 3 at every opportunity.
Do we ever do any sort of crossing exercises at BMH..Not one has looked remotely dangerous
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Elmo off injured?
Went down again behind the goal. Now on a stretcher
He spent the last half hour jumping out of challenges so ironic really.
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Blues now drawing 1-1.
Wolves winning 1-0.
Baggies winning 1-0.
...Villa losing 1-0.
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How come it is the same shit every time? And Elmo probably out for a while if we follow protocol
What have we done different to last season to make this season any better?
A 36 yr old centre back and a 33 yr old center mid who can't pass? Where is the improvement supposed to come from?
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Off the line by Neil to prevent a second
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We are absolutely fucking boring and clueless. What the fuck do we work on during the week? Bruce has had 3/4 of one season, a pre season and couple of games. We luckily held on vs Hull, squeezed past the Mighty Colchester United, and now are losing to Pep Warnocks Real Cardiff. Utter, utter shit
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We are absolutely shite.
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Henri's bun has come unravelled, do that can only help
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how embarrassing clinging on against a Neil Warnock team.
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How long will Bruce get before Dr X realises his investment is under serious threat of another season in the Championship with performances like this?
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I'm just wondering how many years we've been saying "what on earth do they do during the week"?
Bodymoor Heath. The place footballers go to lose any skill, desire and fitness they once had.
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Bruce can fuck off now. Absolutely terrible and in a whole year under him
(Almost) we have not had 1 decent 90 minute showing.
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Getting my full time 2-0 defeat boo in early.
We are the slowest dullest most rigid team i've ever seen. Like watching turtles have sex. Absolutely garbage. Spud face will be out by Octobers end.
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How long will Bruce get before Dr X realises his investment is under serious threat of another season in the Championship with performances like this?
He should have gone in May
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How we playing or is that too obvious?
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I must admit I thought Bruce was the perfect fit for us for where we were/are. I was wrong
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the good Dr should sack the fucker tonight - why delay the inevitable?
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Another meeting with Dr Tony looming.
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Bruce can fuck off now. Absolutely terrible and in a whole year under him
(Almost) we have not had 1 decent 90 minute showing.
No point keeping him. More dullard transfers of ageing one paced players or paint by number transfers thrown together with no semblance of an idea how to put them together, more midfielders to replace the midfielders from January who all have turned to turd.
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How we playing or is that too obvious?
We are playing just like you would expect a Steve Bruce Aston Villa side to be playing.
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Yay a corner!
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How we playing or is that too obvious?
They are all over the place, just nocking it forward hopefully then look at sea when attacked.
Shambles
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Same old Villa.
It's disgusting how shit we have been over the past few years.
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Is this still last season?
We have had a closed season? Right ?
Same shit...same manager, simple as.
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Angela's passing is utter shit
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the good Dr should sack the fucker tonight - why delay the inevitable?
The patience excuse that for too long kept a twat like Lambert in a job.
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But Newcastle lost their first 2 games last season...
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Cardiff just look so much more fluid than us. Everything we do looks forced and uncomfortable
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But Newcastle lost their first 2 games last season...
We are only 5 points off automatic promotion.
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But Newcastle lost their first 2 games last season...
Yes, but they weren't shite. We seem to be.
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Another meeting with Dr Tony looming.
Xia must carry the blame as well. Two bad appointments a massive waste of cash which leave us up shit streak in 12 months time
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I know people are going to argue its early days, but there is nothing to suggest we have improved from last season or will improve.
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Cardiff just look so much more fluid than us. Everything we do looks forced and uncomfortable
The lack of any kind of playing style in almost a year is sackable in itself. Big big week coming up. Say we have No wins v reading and Norwich then how can he stay?
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is Terry playing well?
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But Newcastle lost their first 2 games last season...
We are only 5 points off automatic promotion.
Yep, that's the way it's going. It was crucial in my opinion that we got off to a good start and built momentum. The feeling of negativity is coming back now.
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Have Gabby or Hogan even touched the ball since the first early chance?
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Cardiff Every other team we play just look so much more fluid than us. Everything we do looks forced and uncomfortable
FTFY
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Chelsea 3-0 down at home (small comfort)
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Angela, Hourihane and possibly even Whelan might look better under a manager that does tactics. Or even a midfield.
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Lansbury off and Hutton off.
Two players we already knew were going to be ballbags were. Week in week out same mistakes.
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But Newcastle lost their first 2 games last season...
yes, but they have a manager who knows what he's doing :(
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is Terry playing well?
Messi couldnt play well in this side.
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Same old Villa.
It's disgusting how shit we have been over the past few years.
Galling when you consider the cash that has been spunked on managers and players
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Fucking hell. I thought it was bad for us. Chelsea are losing 3-0 at home to Burnley at HT
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well we normally have one decent half
second half hopefully
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Cardiff look organized and that's enough to unravel a Bruce team
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I hope that was our poor half.
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Chelsea 3-0 down at home (small comfort)
Whats going on in the premier league.
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is Terry playing well?
Messi couldnt play well in this side.
He'd be unfit and look clueless within weeks of hitting BMH
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Cardiff just look so much more fluid than us.
Sorry is this a Neil Warnock team we are talking about? That has to be the biggest condemnation of Bruce as a coach.
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H-T. Time for Bruce to work his magic and turn the tide round with his tactical genius
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Lansbury off and Hutton off.
Two players we already knew were going to be ballbags were. Week in week out same mistakes.
So is that all our subs used by half time?
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is Terry playing well?
Messi couldnt play well in this side.
He'd be unfit and look clueless within weeks of hitting BMH
His partnership with Samba would not come to much.
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Out come the boos
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We sound awful.
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H-T. Time for Bruce to work his magic and turn the tide round with his tactical genius
LMFAO as the kids would say
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I know people are going to argue its early days, but there is nothing to suggest we have improved from last season or will improve.
Precisely.
I too have made the same point. He has not/will not have had some kind of footballing epiphany over the summer that means that he turns this team into a footballing force.
It will be more of the same boring, turgid shite.
Fuck, this 'style' is not even effective, let alone entertaining.
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We sound awful.
We look even worse.
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To the two arseholes who thought it was funny to abuse the catering staff at half time I was the one you shit yourselves from when I confronted you.
More than happy to discuss with you next week about why telling people "To get on with their fucking job" and saying "Fuck off" to them is wrong. When you're not hiding behind the police of course dipshits.😉
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Angela's passing is utter shit
It's not that good. Stevie Wonder with Abu Hamza's hook on his foot would be better.
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On the bright side, Chelsea are 3 down to Burnley, at home, and with 10 men. Chuckle .....
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Samba will save us!!!!
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Sounds awful but the stats suggest otherwise? 63% possession, 8 shots to their 6 with 1 on target to their 4. The problem is obvious
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Seems the people that were saying the team wouldn't even get near the playoff were right. Which is deeply sadband frustrating. How can so much have been spent and the team be so clueless and inept.
Oh well at least we won't go down! :O
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Was that our "bad half"?
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It's just incredibly laboured, bordering on boring. What else would a Bruce team serve up really.
Onomah is a pleasure to watch.
Whelen and Lansbury are appallingly uncreative in the centre. I feel for Hogan, stuck up front with that lazy fucker.
Need a bit more speed going forward second half and some sort of decent crossing.
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Angela's passing is utter shit
It's not that good. Stevie Wonder with Abu Hamza's hook on his foot would be better.
He's embarrassing, what a shit player
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what is it with Villa
buy one of the players of the championship hourinane - ends up wank
decent midfielder at forest -ends up wank
good scorer at Brentford - ends up wank
a player stoke fans loved - ends up wank
a goalscorer called Ross - ends up wank
and carries on playing Hutton and Gabby who we know are already wank ( and even wanky BAcuna had a game )
Bruce is making Villa wank
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Fuck off Villa team, unlikeable, shit, boring,bastards. Not a single player in that side with any nous or anything to get excited about.
Bruce, get your coat, taxi is here.
Any predictions on when Samba gets thrown up front to become long ball magnet? Mine is 80th minute.
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Hutton had made 2 fuck ups before he contrived to help them score.
I have no idea what is going on in midfield, Higan is a sausage roll in a Football kit. Him and Gabby want to make the same runs.
They are all over the place, I feel sorry for Onamah, he looks decent in a sea of shit.
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No end product but when we're relying on out of date goods like Gabby and Hutton it's no surprise.
Only person out there with any real creative skill isn't even our player.
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what is it with Villa
buy one of the players of the championship hourinane - ends up wank
decent midfielder at forest -ends up wank
good scorer at Brentford - ends up wank
a player stoke fans loved - ends up wank
a goalscorer called Ross - ends up wank
and carries on playing Hutton and Gabby who we know are already wank ( and even wanky BAcuna had a game )
Bruce is making Villa wank
No we've been shit for years it's just we try to kid ourselves that all the decisions we make are right and make up a reasoning behind them rather than face the slice of shit pie we've baked for ourselves.
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We have learnt nothing in 7 months.
This game is going the same way as January 2nd 2017.
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Bruce does realise that to have a chance of going up, we'll have to occasionally attack when we're away from home?
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Sounds awful but the stats suggest otherwise? 63% possession, 8 shots to their 6 with 1 on target to their 4. The problem is obvious
But how much of the possession is in our own half, when Cardiff don't care?
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You'll all regret it when we've won 1-4. Mark my words.
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Like watching turtles have sex.
Haha!
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The only time we look as though we might win or score more than one is when Kodjia plays. It was the same when he went to the AFCON last season - eye-wateringly boring, turgid and pedestrian. Things may improve when we get him back but that's just papering over the ever widening cracks. What's the betting that if Dr T sacks Bruce, the pay-off will take us over FFP and the FA will be all over us like an STD rash
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I'm going to start supporting Burnley. Play in something like our colours. Traditional side, and a manager who has a definite style and takes it to every team trying to win. I'll just need eat more pies and get used to dating hairy women.
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0 (zero) shots on target. What a waste of a summer. Nothing in the bench, apart from O'Hare, who did enough on Wednesday to warrant a start, as did Bree. Bruce sticks with the old boys club though... No pace, no imagination, no leadership.
Time to earn your money Bruce.
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Fucking clueless at the moment Bruce
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You'll all regret it when we've won 1-4. Mark my words.
Can I have some of what you're on please?
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Bruce will now doubt be bombarding them with encouraging words of wisdom as we 'speak'.
What's the betting we'll be 0-2 within 10 minutes of second half kick off?
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I'm going to start supporting Burnley. Play in something like our colours. Traditional side, and a manager who has a definite style and takes it to every team trying to win. I'll just need eat more pies and get used to dating hairy women.
Its a small penance to pay for bit of optimism.
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Sounds awful but the stats suggest otherwise? 63% possession, 8 shots to their 6 with 1 on target to their 4. The problem is obvious
We have had chances. Hogan had one early on and yet again he couldn't take it.
Just sounds like a standard away game to me, we have a bit of pressure early on, can't score, concede a sloppy goal and then offer next to nothing for the rest of the game.
You don't get promoted only turning up for home games.
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Keep the faith. Be the 12th man. Part of the pride. We go again. Yaddayaddayadda.
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Maybe we need the orange dot
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Bruce will now doubt be bombarding them with encouraging words of wisdom as we 'speak'.
What's the betting we'll be 0-2 within 10 minutes of second half kick off?
Significantly lower odds than us turning this around.
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No changes for second half
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Maybe we need the orange dot
It was replaced by the Admiral's Pie.
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I'm going to start supporting Burnley. Play in something like our colours. Traditional side, and a manager who has a definite style and takes it to every team trying to win. I'll just need eat more pies and get used to dating hairy women.
And drinking Benedictine.
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Sadly it seems Bruce thinks huff and puff is enough to get us out of this division. Run around chasing the ball and when you get it, put it in the box. At this rate he'll be lucky to last the month. He really should have gone in May. It would have been a big call but at least we would have had plenty to choose from to replace him. Now, the strongest line of defence for keeping him will be who can we bring in now the season has started.
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TV do they have pies in Canada? Come to that do they have hairy women in Canada? Where's my passport.
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No fear, team of 2 halves.
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Johnstone saves again, could've easily been 2-0. Quick Cardiff break from our corner.
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Yet again the opposition nearly score after our corner
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We should have been 2-0 down
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Whelan is awlful
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TV do they have pies in Canada? Come to that do they have hairy women in Canada? Where's my passport.
Yes on both Brian. The pies aren't as good. The women aren't as hairy. In a way both a good thing.
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The AVTV commentary is totally rubbish!, the crowd noise is loud and the bloke is hopeless!
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Johnstone MOM
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Like watching turtles have sex.
Haha!
I reckon that's more entertaining than watching Villa!
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No fear, team of 2 halves.
One problem there,that was our good half.
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Johnstone MOTM, same as Steer against Colchester
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WE ARE FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!
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We're getting torn a new one
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3 minutes of the second half and we could be 3-0 down. Fuck me
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Cardiff got a Bamba in defence.
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FUCK OFF VILLA.
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Chester hits bar from corner.
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FFS hit the bar
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Fuck off the bar
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Bollocks, off the bar
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Hit the crossbar
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I like my hairy women strong and hot. Or is that the pies. I forget.
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You know it's bad when the CAPS come out.
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I like my hairy women strong and hot. Or is that the pies. I forget.
Why limit yourself? Go for both!
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I like my hairy women strong and hot. Or is that the pies. I forget.
I like them moist and crusty. And the pies.
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At least our Dutch cap is on his way out.
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Almost everything about this club is austere and fucking miserable.
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We've been outfought and outwitted. Warnock took over a relegation threatened side with next to no resources and as it stands has created a much better side than Steve Bruce with a fortune at his disposal.
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Almost everything about this club is austere and fucking miserable.
Yet out Squad cost a fortune....#planning
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The fans are ace. What other reason to be here.
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No other strikers coming in as we are 'on the cusp' of ffp. So it's this squad or bust. I know where my money is.
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Yep, more proof that we haven't improved.
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O'Hare coming on
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At least our Dutch cap is on his way out.
And the French letter has gone. (J)
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Get Warnock in now.
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I like my hairy women strong and hot. Or is that the pies. I forget.
I like them moist and crusty. And the pies.
This is worse than waking up to a hairy woman who acknowledging her luck, serves you a pie. You find a hair in it.
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O'Hare on.
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Thank fuck for that. Lansbury off.
Big chance for O'Hare now.
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O'Hare on.
Let's hope his career takes off
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2
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Aside from Sam, Onamah has been our best player. I'll give him a 6/10 so far
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fucking ell 2 0
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2-0 game over,like it wasn't already
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Oh dear, oh dear. 2-0 Cardiff.
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Fuck me 2-0
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How easy was that. Strolled past JT
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2-0.
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And that is game over. Wankers.
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Absolutely fucking diabolical
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Chester has been garbage today. Well, maybe not garbage, but he's looked slow, and has been beaten far too easily a few times.
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It was coming.
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Well I wasn't expecting that.
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#promotion
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This isn't going to end well
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Get that ****** out now
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Bruce. Out.
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I think we'll stay up.
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game over, what a pile of shite!
It is so hard being a villa fan!
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Rowlocks
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I'm baby sitting, sounds like I'm not missing much.
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Meltdown is imminent Mr Bruce's 'Bolton game' is close if not already upon us.
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Boy oh Boy do we miss our own Zahore.
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Well I wasn't expecting that.
We finished 14th last season, were you really optimistic?
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Pack your bags Bruce.
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I think Bruce will be wintering in in Portugal
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Dinosaur manager with a pedestrian team.
A marriage made in hell.
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Woke up in the early hours, just checked the score, same old same old, fuck me will this ever end.
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I think Bruce will be wintering in in Portugal
He can fuck off somewhere else.
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Pack your bags Bruce.
Fuck that Brian. Toss his suitcase and clothes into the street and kick his arse out of the door.
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Cheerio Bruce
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I feel sorry for Hogan, he can't score goals
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Our loss is the literary world's gain. He can concentrate on his *hysterical laughter* writing.
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Difficult position for the owner this. Invested heavily in Bruce. Go and find Allardyce and pay him what he wants.
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I feel sorry for Hogan, he can't score goals
And looked like bloody Aguero for Brentford.
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Once again, the keeper hasn't even had to make a save. Just shit
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Oh well. That's the shape of this season made depressingly clear in the first three matches.
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Has anybody got a stream for the turtles?
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Comedy defending again
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I feel sorry for Hogan, he can't score goals
And looked like bloody Aguero for Brentford.
And he could somewhere else and do it again. We don't even create chances.
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We keep on very nearly conceding.
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Defence has been a joke today.
Cardiff could easily have scored 5. Shocking.
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I don't know how any can think he needs time.
This mythical 10 game period where we can see if the team will challenge or not.
It has always been obvious, he is incapable of change.
The run in last season proved it.
Pre season proved it.
The first three games of this season have proved it.
This is what we will get if we stick with Bruce.
He should have gone at the end of last season.
He surely needs to go now.
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This literally is horrific to watch
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What a cock up
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Suspect we will be seeing a 'Not impressed' headline tomorrow.
I suggested Warnock when RDM went, and got pelters for it. He is a very good manager at this level and can get a tune out of poor players and work with what he has. Bruce always buys a shed load of players and bumbles his way to a team that clicks.
I know it is early days, but I can't see him improving things and want him gone. That squad is good enough to at least be competitive.
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I feel sorry for Hogan, he can't score goals
And looked like bloody Aguero for Brentford.
And he could somewhere else and do it again. We don't even create chances.
I agree, easy, simple forward passes into space aren't happening.
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I don't know how any can think he needs time.
This mythical 10 game period where we can see if the team will challenge or not.
It has always been obvious, he is incapable of change.
The run in last season proved it.
Pre season proved it.
The first three games of this season have proved it.
This is what we will get if we stick with Bruce.
He should have gone at the end of last season.
He surely needs to go now.
100% agree.
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3-0.
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Its going to be 3-0 soon
Edit: LOL fucking hell
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3-0 Shut the door on your way out Steve
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We're losing 3-0 to Cardiff in the second tier. This is absolute shit.
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Difficult position for the owner this. Invested heavily in Bruce. Go and find Allardyce and pay him what he wants.
Think I'll give up
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3-0
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Fuck me. Warley Sunday teams would have defended that better.
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I don't know how any can think he needs time.
This mythical 10 game period where we can see if the team will challenge or not.
It has always been obvious, he is incapable of change.
The run in last season proved it.
Pre season proved it.
The first three games of this season have proved it.
This is what we will get if we stick with Bruce.
He should have gone at the end of last season.
He surely needs to go now.
100% agree.
We need stability.
Let's get a new manager first.
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utter shite!
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Difficult position for the owner this. Invested heavily in Bruce. Go and find Allardyce and pay him what he wants.
Think I'll give up
Anything but Bruce right now
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That's it. Bruce out. No taxi, let the fucker walk.
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Difficult position for the owner this. Invested heavily in Bruce. Go and find Allardyce and pay him what he wants.
I'm afraid he needs to cut his losses as difficult as it may be. He cannot wait and hope things will improve or we will be always chasing those above us and with this squad, not catching them.
Not sure Allardyce is the right choice though except to steady the ship, hardly a manager for the future.
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Out out out
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No seriously, he has to go tonight.
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I feel really sorry for our loyal away supporters.
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How long before we hear 'You don't know what you're doing'?
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Jokanovic at Fulham has more recent pedigree than Fat Sam in this division.
Automatic promotion and play-offs secured under two different oddball owners. Without being able to throw unlimited shekels at the thing either. We might still (just about) offer something approximating career progression.
Fat Sam would be just more of the same -though perhaps a tad more effective. Would have to question his motivation after retiring so recently though. Does he really need getting battered v Brentford away on a miserable Tues night in the Chumpionship.
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Corner to us. Time for them to score a fourth
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It's absolutely disgusting to be honest. Wankers.
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Dross
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Sean Dyche would be my choice. He's sold Andre Gray for £18.5M and they're still winning 3-0 at Chelsea!!
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TBH we looked stronger last season.
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This team is looking 'damaged goods' again (already).
Change needs to happen quickly if we are to move forward.
Another season in this division will be catastrophic.
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When will this pain go away!
I expect to see fatty Samba on any minute!
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TBH we looked better under Sherwood.
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TBH we looked better under Sherwood.
Better team then
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We know we stunk out the Premier, it takes some doing to do that in the championship but we look like achieving it.
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the Villa story in recent time is beyond parody
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Hourihane coming on to get his appearance fee.
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See what happens when Bacuna doesn't play? We all ought to be ashamed of ourselves.
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Oh great. Conor Hourihane to come on. I really dislike our entire first team.
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We should be careful what we wish for - Bruce out, Terry in does not fill me with optimism.
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TBH we looked better under Sherwood.
And Tommy Cummings
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TBH we looked better under Sherwood.
Well we did, genuinely, look better under him than anyone since M'ON, until the Southampton away tonking.
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Good job the boys had that team meeting.
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And now he takes off one of the few players doing any good
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We really are going to do a Forest and stay down here aren't we......
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And now he takes off one of the few players doing any good
He was bad today
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We've sold all our young sellable assets for next to nothing and replaced them players that are past it. Dont see how we can get out this division if we don't do it this year.
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And just look at the coaching team. Clemence and Calderwood. Where is their pedigree and experience? Utter tosh
My son is at the game and says its worse than Blackburn last season
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TBH we looked better under Sherwood.
Bar Southampton and Arsenal I can't disagree. Don't want him back mind. My wife having watched Blues for years told me i't be miserable even if we did go up with the odd exception. I'm still waiting for the exception.
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We really are going to do a Forest and stay down here aren't we......
Yep, looks it.
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Reading next game, should be secure in the bottom three by Wednesday
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And Vic Crowe
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We should be careful what we wish for - Bruce out, Terry in does not fill me with optimism.
No chance.
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Abel Hernandez hat-trick for Hull. Maybe we should have bought him after all.
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can we have Basil Fawlty as manaher next, at least he from Swanage!
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Blues are winning
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Taking off Onomah now. Weird. Get Hutton or the fat shit up front off. Nothing will ever be won with those pair in the team.
Shit defensively today. Shit.
Worryingly, I don't think Wyness, Round and the Doctor know how to appoint a progressive manager with tactical nous and a knowledge of flexible, attractive football.
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I'm convinced every other team in the 4 leagues plays better football than us.
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We really are going to do a Forest and stay down here aren't we......
Yep, looks it.
Can't see anything else at this point.
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Good job we got that bloke from Chelsea in to inspire and motivate the players and tighten up the defence.
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Oh for fuck sake
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I'm convinced every other team in the 4 leagues plays better football than us.
Been like that for the last 5 years.
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We're lucky it's not 5 or 6-0 here. Dreadful.
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Boro win later and we are in the bottom 3 :-/
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Just to cheer everyone up Wolves are beating Derby 2-0 away.
That's two top 6 rivals they've beaten in a week, that's the sort of setting out your stall that seems beyond us as a club.
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We're lucky it's still only 3
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You wouldn't bet against a 4th
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Cardiff 13 shots, 11 on target. Villa 10, 1 on target, says it all.
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Should have been 4. Whelan made to look stupid again.
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Hogan is like a little boy lost up front. Honestly we've been an embarrassment to the club here.
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Blues winning as well.
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Good job we got that bloke from Chelsea in to inspire and motivate the players and tighten up the defence.
I expected to see him raving and motivating players. He looks shell shocked and rubbish.
The summer had been so nice without Villa ruining the weekend.
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Hogan is like a little boy lost up front. Honestly we've been an embarrassment to the club here.
Why are you being so positive?
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It's no exaggeration to say Cardiff should be 6 up, Johnstone has been excellent.
SB simply can't come out and remark what he said after 10 away games last season.
Something has to change and I've lost confidence in him to do that given our poor start to this season in terms of performance.
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I'm convinced every other team in the 4 leagues plays better football than us.
I always think that when I see us play too. Every other team seems to have a system of play, and players who know how to fit into it. One example: Cowley brothers and Lincoln City last season.
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We should have sacked the fist-faced arse well before the end of last season. This start was entirely predictable, and there's no way we're going up under Bruce. Sack him tonight.
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We should have sacked the fist-faced arse well before the end of last season. This start was entirely predictable, and there's no way we're going up under Bruce. Sack him tonight.
Correct.
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Taking off Onomah now. Weird. Get Hutton or the fat shit up front off. Nothing will ever be won with those pair in the team.
Shit defensively today. Shit.
Worryingly, I don't think Wyness, Round and the Doctor know how to appoint a progressive manager with tactical nous and a knowledge of flexible, attractive football.
that's my biggest worry to,
A short list of Sam, Warnock and Moyes would be as far as they look
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If we left this game 6-0 down we wouldn't have any complaints. We've been utterly embarrassing.
There's just no spark whatsoever.
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We should have sacked the fist-faced arse well before the end of last season. This start was entirely predictable, and there's no way we're going up under Bruce. Sack him tonight.
Correct.
Count me in. Tatty bye tater head.
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We really are looking at an extended spell in the lower league.
The consistent inability to even look like we are trying to put together some sort of shape is shocking.
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We should have sacked the fist-faced arse well before the end of last season. This start was entirely predictable, and there's no way we're going up under Bruce. Sack him tonight.
It doesn't happen often, but I'm agreeing with Risso here.
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We really are looking at an extended spell in the lower league.
The consistent inability to even look like we are trying to put together some sort of shape is shocking.
I think you're right you know.
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Disgusting. If he doesn't go tonight then we're going to be 4 games without a win after Reading and Norwich...and potentially at least 6pts behind the playoff spots already.
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Dear oh dear. Is the season nearly over yet?
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Good job we got that bloke from Chelsea in to inspire and motivate the players and tighten up the defence.
I expected to see him raving and motivating players. He looks shell shocked and rubbish.
The summer had been so nice without Villa ruining the weekend.
He's only a kid and he probably wants to go back to Chelsea after this experience and Chelsea would probably want him back after today.
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We should have sacked the fist-faced arse well before the end of last season. This start was entirely predictable, and there's no way we're going up under Bruce. Sack him tonight.
Correct.
I don't think Bruce can get us going to the extend needed to gain promotion. We haven't and don't look good enough.
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fuck off bruce season over
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Bruce, Wyness and Round are straight out of Shoot! Total lack of innovative thinking. Big summer story. Villa sign ex England captain. That's the ticket skipper.
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Taking off Onomah now. Weird. Get Hutton or the fat shit up front off. Nothing will ever be won with those pair in the team.
Shit defensively today. Shit.
Worryingly, I don't think Wyness, Round and the Doctor know how to appoint a progressive manager with tactical nous and a knowledge of flexible, attractive football.
that's my biggest worry to,
A short list of Sam, Warnock and Moyes would be as far as they look
I'd be amazed if it went any further than Moyes.
Given his previous with Round and Wyness.
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Disgusting. If he doesn't go tonight then we're going to be 4 games without a win after Reading and Norwich...and potentially at least 6pts behind the playoff spots already.
He's not going anywhere. They're never going to sack someone after 2 games. If it does happen it won't be until late Sep/ Oct.
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The forced penury next season should we not go up might force us to get smart. Maybe.
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We should have sacked the fist-faced arse well before the end of last season. This start was entirely predictable, and there's no way we're going up under Bruce. Sack him tonight.
It doesn't happen often, but I'm agreeing with Risso here.
I don't want to hear about another team meeting. Or any more fucking heart to hearts. This is enough. It's shit and getting much worse by the minute. He needs to be fired by tomorrow. He talks so glowingly about this being a once in a lifetime opportunity. Well you've massively fucked it up Steve.
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It's ok 2-3 people will be along later to tell us how we're all wrong and to look at what Bruce did in the past.
He was a shit appointment at the time and has done nothing to suggest he was ever likely to be anything else.
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Disgusting. If he doesn't go tonight then we're going to be 4 games without a win after Reading and Norwich...and potentially at least 6pts behind the playoff spots already.
He's not going anywhere. They're never going to sack someone after 2 games. If it does happen it won't be until late Sep/ Oct.
Its not 2 games though its 30 plus
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Taking off Onomah now. Weird. Get Hutton or the fat shit up front off. Nothing will ever be won with those pair in the team.
Shit defensively today. Shit.
Worryingly, I don't think Wyness, Round and the Doctor know how to appoint a progressive manager with tactical nous and a knowledge of flexible, attractive football.
that's my biggest worry to,
A short list of Sam, Warnock and Moyes would be as far as they look
I'd be amazed if it went any further than Moyes.
Given his previous with Round and Wyness.
Please not Moyes
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We should nevet have appointed Bruce, he should go tonight. But....who do we choose to replace him? I do not have any confidence in how we would go about it.
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Taking off Onomah now. Weird. Get Hutton or the fat shit up front off. Nothing will ever be won with those pair in the team.
Shit defensively today. Shit.
Worryingly, I don't think Wyness, Round and the Doctor know how to appoint a progressive manager with tactical nous and a knowledge of flexible, attractive football.
that's my biggest worry to,
A short list of Sam, Warnock and Moyes would be as far as they look
I'd be amazed if it went any further than Moyes.
Given his previous with Round and Wyness.
Can you imagine the uproar if they appointed Moyes? 7 years ago, ok. I think now he's finished as a decent manager.
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We're #partoftheslide.
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Last season we had a reasonably secure defence. Now with Terry, we are looking worse.
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I said last week all he's done since May is make us even older and even more immobile as a team. that's not how you win promotion.
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Taking off Onomah now. Weird. Get Hutton or the fat shit up front off. Nothing will ever be won with those pair in the team.
Shit defensively today. Shit.
Worryingly, I don't think Wyness, Round and the Doctor know how to appoint a progressive manager with tactical nous and a knowledge of flexible, attractive football.
that's my biggest worry to,
A short list of Sam, Warnock and Moyes would be as far as they look
I'd be amazed if it went any further than Moyes.
Given his previous with Round and Wyness.
It's laughably inevitable isn't it? Kill me now
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Relief. It's over. Until Tuesday
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It's not our job to appoint the next one.
There are enough useless fuckers at the club who can fuck that up without our input.
However, I'd go for Dean Jones.
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We really are looking at an extended spell in the lower league.
The consistent inability to even look like we are trying to put together some sort of shape is shocking.
I think you're right you know.
Make it a super extended spell. We've gambled our future on expensive dirge.
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I'd love warnock right now - he's just pissed on us without having a pot to piss in
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Bruce made a big deal about referencing our bad start to last season. Plus our away record. He has had almost a full season in charge and he's not changed a single thing. We would be no worse off under RDM. At least under him we created a ton of chances. Get shot now. Jokanovic, Dean Smith - either for me and get them in place to take charge Saturday
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Taking off Onomah now. Weird. Get Hutton or the fat shit up front off. Nothing will ever be won with those pair in the team.
Shit defensively today. Shit.
Worryingly, I don't think Wyness, Round and the Doctor know how to appoint a progressive manager with tactical nous and a knowledge of flexible, attractive football.
that's my biggest worry to,
A short list of Sam, Warnock and Moyes would be as far as they look
I'd be amazed if it went any further than Moyes.
Given his previous with Round and Wyness.
The one who is out there who would tempt me to roll the dice is Aitor Karanka. We've got to look at something different.
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Taking off Onomah now. Weird. Get Hutton or the fat shit up front off. Nothing will ever be won with those pair in the team.
Shit defensively today. Shit.
Worryingly, I don't think Wyness, Round and the Doctor know how to appoint a progressive manager with tactical nous and a knowledge of flexible, attractive football.
JT
that's my biggest worry to,
A short list of Sam, Warnock and Moyes would be as far as they look
I'd be amazed if it went any further than Moyes.
Given his previous with Round and Wyness.
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We really are looking at an extended spell in the lower league.
The consistent inability to even look like we are trying to put together some sort of shape is shocking.
Get a better manager in and we will challenge for promotion
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Taking off Onomah now. Weird. Get Hutton or the fat shit up front off. Nothing will ever be won with those pair in the team.
Shit defensively today. Shit.
Worryingly, I don't think Wyness, Round and the Doctor know how to appoint a progressive manager with tactical nous and a knowledge of flexible, attractive football.
that's my biggest worry to,
A short list of Sam, Warnock and Moyes would be as far as they look
I'd be amazed if it went any further than Moyes.
Given his previous with Round and Wyness.
It's laughably inevitable isn't it? Kill me now
I can't stand Moyes. Never have.
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Taking off Onomah now. Weird. Get Hutton or the fat shit up front off. Nothing will ever be won with those pair in the team.
Shit defensively today. Shit.
Worryingly, I don't think Wyness, Round and the Doctor know how to appoint a progressive manager with tactical nous and a knowledge of flexible, attractive football.
that's my biggest worry to,
A short list of Sam, Warnock and Moyes would be as far as they look
I'd be amazed if it went any further than Moyes.
Given his previous with Round and Wyness.
Please not Moyes
I don't think I could handle having another dour jock in control. The place stinks of apathy and desperately needs someone enthusiastic and knows what the fuck he is doing.
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No excuses
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Taking off Onomah now. Weird. Get Hutton or the fat shit up front off. Nothing will ever be won with those pair in the team.
Shit defensively today. Shit.
Worryingly, I don't think Wyness, Round and the Doctor know how to appoint a progressive manager with tactical nous and a knowledge of flexible, attractive football.
that's my biggest worry to,
A short list of Sam, Warnock and Moyes would be as far as they look
I'd be amazed if it went any further than Moyes.
Given his previous with Round and Wyness.
Please not Moyes
I don't think I could handle having another dour jock in control. The place stinks of apathy and desperately needs someone enthusiastic and knows what the fuck he is doing.
We should of ram raided Huddersfield when we had a chance.