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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on February 14, 2017, 09:31:28 PM
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Bruce out?
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Yes.
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And he can take that dimwit Calderwood with him.
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Bacuna has just passed the ball to Houlihane who at the time was off the pitch?!?
Wtf?!
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Yes. But can I just ask why anyone thinks that will make it better. We've changed everything, including the fucking owner and we're apparently as bad as ever. That makes no sense, or am I missing something?
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Shit result great thread title.
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We might need to bulldoze Villa Park at this point. Everything else is different except the ground. Or maybe it's the fucking badge. I'm lost for why it's so shit.
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Let's hear what he has to say about this pile of shit tonight.
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Bruce out. Fucking shambles.
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A new low.
Until Monday night...
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The bell tolls for thee, Brucey minus.
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Let's hear what he has to say about this pile of shit tonight.
"It's another horrible one".
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Another chancer shithouse. We do pick 'em.
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Five to six years of absolute rubbish. We're becoming the new Leeds.
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Sorry, Bruce out.
I hate the merry go round but he's not going to get this squad firing. Looks to be out of ideas. I don't know what it will take, but RDM could've gotten us 6 points above the drop at the point in the season.
BURN IT DOWN. This club is rotten.
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Well, which was the worse Valentine's Day Massacre? Last season's 6-0 humping by Liverpool when they were playing at walking pace or this year's atrocious defeat to a Barnsley team we ransacked for their best players?
It's almost impossible to be this shit. I am actually beginning to believe in a curse.
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We might need to bulldoze Villa Park at this point. Everything else is different except the ground. Or maybe it's the fucking badge. I'm lost for why it's so shit.
It's definitely the badge, I said the same to my Dad at the Preston game. Bring back the circular badge and lift the curse.
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Attrocious run of results now. We've got nothing to be hopeful about after that. No where near good enough for Aston Villa FC.
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We might need to bulldoze Villa Park at this point. Everything else is different except the ground. Or maybe it's the fucking badge. I'm lost for why it's so shit.
It's obvious, no Doug Ellis
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They've drained me....I just couldn't be bothered tonight. A good decision to miss it. No way I'll bother with a season-ticket again on that showing.
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This football club is just a pile of pissy shit. A trillion different players, a million new managers and a couple of owners and not one single thing changes.
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For me personally this is my darkest day as a villa fan
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Speechless. ...and let's be honest this us relegation form. Oh I forgot we're too good to go down
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When did Calderwood get the job? Seems very close to start of our demise since Boxing Day.
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Yes. But can I just ask why anyone thinks that will make it better. We've changed everything, including the fucking owner and we're apparently as bad as ever. That makes no sense, or am I missing something?
I really want to support Bruce but can we honestly do any worse than we are currently?
We could actually put a pork pie in charge and probably get a draw every now and then
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Fucking garbage (again)
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OI Bruce, FUCK OFF NOW.
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Load of cock. Usual second half shit, usual garbage substitutions, usual garbage formation, usual defensive lapses, usual half hearted clearances, usual defeat.
Fuck off Potato head.
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This football club is just a pile of pissy shit. A trillion different players, a million new managers and a couple of owners and not one single thing changes.
Yes it has. We are playing different teams.
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Down again?
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We might need to bulldoze Villa Park at this point. Everything else is different except the ground. Or maybe it's the fucking badge. I'm lost for why it's so shit.
Wait, we could and should bulldoze BMH first. All it does is make players worse.
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Well beaten by Paul Heckingbottom's Barnsley, Paul Fucking Heckingbottom.
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The team should be running out to embarrassment by Madness.
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Certain relegation.
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Not sure why he took Lansbury off.
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We are now in another fight, with a team who shows no fight. Brilliant.
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I hope Dr X has the receipt because its over 30 days and he'll be wanting a full refund. I don't even think distance "over the web" selling rules will save him here...
I wanted Bruce to work out, but he seems he hasn't a rashers. We can't even eeek out a cheeky 0-0.
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Fuck off Aston Villa.
You've worn me down I couldn't give a fuck any more after 55 years support.
Turn off the lights.
Welcome to the Third Division
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Banish the Lerner badge. Stage a Nordic-style human sacrifice ritual involving Bruce and Hutton in the North Stand car park. Get half man, half biscuit brain Agbonlahor to piss in all four corners of the ground. Anything is worth a stab at this point.
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Is this going to end up being another three manager season? How utterly fucking depressing.
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A new low.
Until Monday night...
I think that's wrong, probably the only game I predict we will win. They hate us with a passion.
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He's a dinosaur - and you know what happened to them - extinct.
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I would like to say embarrassing but i doubt other teams/fans give a shit about us these days. We are an absolute basket case
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When did Calderwood get the job? Seems very close to start of our demise since Boxing Day.
Absolutely, was he Bruce's choice or club chosen ?
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It's never worked. Even when we were winning, we didn't look like we were comfortable with it. Bruce can take a fat pay-off and build up his baby weight in the local kebab house, because it's past time he was gone.
As an aside, how many people think we're at rock bottom yet?
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Different owners
Different managers
Different coaches
Different players
Different formations
Different kits
Same fans.....putting up with the same shite!!
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We're shit.
Bruce has lost the fans.
We're going down.
We're shit.
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Yes. But can I just ask why anyone thinks that will make it better. We've changed everything, including the fucking owner and we're apparently as bad as ever. That makes no sense, or am I missing something?
This. Completely. I just don't know what to think any more. The scary thing for me is that Bruce, whatever you think of him (and I totally get why some people were not enamoured with him) was the logical choice for where we were. Decent track record, if a little dour and pragmatic. He seemed a safe pair of hands, as low risk an option as we had. And even he's falling apart. So where on earth do we go from here?
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I caught some manager calling one of his championship players a warrior the other day, thats what we need right this second.
WARRIORS. WERE COMING TO GET YOU!!!
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We've had over 40 shots in the last 2 games and scored once? Are we shooting from our own half every time or has everyone turned into Jordan Bowery?
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Maybe aliens will come and destroy the Earth ?
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It's not so much if we have hit rock bottom but more if teams below us start winning and cheerfully wave to us as they overtake us in the league.
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We are fucked
We'll be bankrupt in two seasons when xia fucks off
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I thought we played well first half. Second was a bit more huff and puff, but it sums it up that they have 3 shots and score them all.
Never a penalty in a million years and it gave them an avenue into the game they didn't deserve.
Second half things were a bit more stretched but we got the ball into their box on countless occasions and didn't punish them.
Final ball lacked quality when we were in good positions. Third goal we had three opportunities to clear and panicked.
We're in a real rut and need something in our favour like that dubious penalty.
Missing Jedinak perhaps. 9 goals in four games without him shielding the back four.
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We need a new poll.
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Get Dean Smith in. Bruce has completely lost the plot!
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No, rock bottom will be a complete shoeing by someone 5-0 ish including comedy errors and the team looking like it can't be arsed, like the Liverpool beat down last season. Possibly Monday against Newcastle.
So after nearly 5 months at the club he's managed a couple of decent 45 minutes of football and apart from that, tripe. Bruce is on borrowed time, 2/3 more defeats and he will be gone.
Aston Villa, having spent the best part of £60m Gross, in the Championship, quite simply cannot tolerate losing 8/9 out of 10 games. We cannot give up and accept that kind of shit as acceptable under any circumstances.
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Who was the last team to get relegated in sucessive seasons starting in prem ?
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We are a boring, inept team heading nowhere fast, we play utterly dire football mixed with a load of below average players made out to be actual footballers, when in fact most of them are clueless morons that have no fucking idea how to play football.
Make no mistake.. we will be in League One next season and rightly so.
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Is there a more perfect summation of the club?
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Maybe aliens will come and destroy the Earth ?
No need. Ever the optimist I'm hoping Trump does it to put us out our misery.
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Who was the last team to get relegated in sucessive seasons starting in prem ?
Wolves?
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Who was the last team to get relegated in sucessive seasons starting in prem ?
Wolves
Came straight back up mind
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One day someone will mention to me that the Villa played a game the day before and I will be oblivious to the fact, and whatever the result it won't trigger any sort of emotion other than indifference. I reckon that day's not far off.
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Some said that we needed to get relegated to rebuild and bounce back. That was from the Premiership! Suddenly, it looks like we've not hit the floor yet. This run is dangerous. We are clueless and are getting worse. Relegation is realistic.
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One day someone will mention to me that the Villa played a game the day before and I will be oblivious to the fact, and whatever the result it won't trigger any sort of emotion other than indifference. I reckon that day's not far off.
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I saw an AVFC post on Facebook earlier of one of our great performances. We looked vibrant, energetic, enthusiastic, passionate and dare I say it quite good.
It was 7 years ago. WTF has happened.
We are THAT club that other fans think "I remember when they were good."
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As soon as the official site came out with the stat that we'd not lost to Barnsley in 12 games I knew we were about to get twatted.
I blame the OS for everything.
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I'm no fan of Bruce but I thought on this occasion he picked the best XI players in a formation to suit them and whisper it but we played pretty well first half. The players have to take the lions share of the blame for melting when they were up against it after the goals.
We dont deserve much on the way of luck but fuck me we got none again tonight
I'll give Bruce a pass on this one.
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Time for a New Manger Poll?..
fuck sake, this is soul destroying.
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"Well if we get relegated then at least we can look forward to winning games and enjoying our football again." Again.
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I'm with you PeterWitheand saw it much the same.
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The anniversary of having our pants pulled down at home by Liverpool 0-6. This is as bad if not worse, fucking cunty Barnsley at home you bunch of fucking fucks.
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He's a dinosaur - and you know what happened to them - extinct.
So's Neil Warnock, but look what he's done/doing at Cardiff. That's who we should have gone for - although of course we never would have because we're far too good for him, eh? But when he took over Cardiff were looking doomed, and now they're 12th on 42 points - and he hasn't spent gazillions either. At this rate we'll be lucky to get 42 points by the end of the fucking season.
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Where are the angry young men lead by a hard man, that many of us remember from seasons gone bye ? They're all out for a lads day out and a kick about. We need some desire, passion and effort ( didn't we all say that last season though ? ) Hmmmm?
I don't see any drive or desire in our way of playing through this bad spell. So that doesn't auger well, does it ?!
Have to get the basics right ...and Calderwood seems to be just there to pick up his pay cheque from an easy drive up from Northampton.
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Bruce is a Dinosaur. He is no more than a jobbing manager who has benefited from the Managerial merry go round for many years as one of Fergie's mates. No more. After inheriting the squad of players he did and having spent as much as he has; to have a run of results and performances like he has is abysmal. There has got to be a better way?
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You look around at the other games in our division tonight and there's a comeback or late goal in nearly every match. Teams willing to battle for everything, bust their gut for 90 plus minutes.
Then you see our meek shower of dumb cretins managed by someone who needs to take his rolling contract and be rolled out of the club.
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I'm no fan of Bruce but I thought on this occasion he picked the best XI players in a formation to suit them and whisper it but we played pretty well first half. The players have to take the lions share of the blame for melting when they were up against it after the goals.
We dont deserve much on the way of luck but fuck me we got none again tonight
I'll give Bruce a pass on this one.
No pass from me, no game plan, no idea and no changes when needed. Gruffnuts.
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So's Neil Warnock, but look what he's done/doing at Cardiff. That's who we should have gone for - although of course we never would have because we're far too good for him, eh? But when he took over Cardiff were looking doomed, and now they're 12th on 42 points - and he hasn't spent gazillions either. At this rate we'll be lucky to get 42 points by the end of the fucking season.
We said the same about Hughton and Schteve McClaren...
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I think it was Dave W who said the job was too big for Dean Smith when RDM was sacked, and I think mentioned Graham Turner as a comparison (apologies if I'm wrong about that, Dave). I took it on board at the time and thought it sensible.
However, we haven't recently been European champions. We're facing relegation to Division 3. I think it's worth the gamble. We need a miracle worker or a stroke of luck and we won't attract a miracle worker.
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The midlands as a whole is just a shite area for football isn't it. Listening to radio WM now and no fucker is ever happy on there. Every club in the midlands is proper pants, they're relegated consistently, they're bland to watch and have problems on and off the pitch. Take away Leicesters one off last year, how can a region that contains so many professional football clubs be so bad of late.
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Time for a New Manger Poll?..
fuck sake, this is soul destroying.
I want him gone, but it's completely pointless getting rid of him at this point. I don't think we'll go down, simply because the bottom three are horrific and at some point we'll start getting some results. But unless he wins a bare minimum of 8 games before the season finishes, he can fuck right off in May and wile away his days in the kebab shop of his choice.
The most frustrating thing though, is that on paper Bruce was exactly the appointment we needed. He started off well. I cannot fathom what happen. Furthermore, I have no idea who will come in who can improve things. We genuinely seem cursed.
We shit money out on average players. Why not spend the big money on getting a really top manager. If Rafa is happy to slum at at Newcastle in the Championship, we could get someone similar. You just have to pay them. We can't get by on just motivation now. We need someone tactically astute. Because if the motivator can't motivate, you're buggered.
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Just in having left after an hour. Words fail to convey my utter disenchantment with this total clusterfuck
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Turn the lights off, I'm done.
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If we think tonight is bad, wait until Monday night for everyone to watch live on Sky. That will be an absolute tonking.
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If spud goes then why can't we for once think outside the box instead of the dusty, mundane crap we always seem to bring in. Reading did it in the summer, Wednesday, Fulham etc.
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Barnsley. ..fuckin Barnsley..
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Now with added poll!
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People say we need stability. Well, a steep slide is not stability. This is not a small bump in form, this is how it will be under Bruce. We were crap in most of our wins and were worse when we were conceding to draw from winning positions. As for the last two HOME games? Fucking abysmal. He cannot come back from those, surely?
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Ah another shameful humiliation.
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Has there ever been a team assembled for so much money that are so poor.
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The midlands as a whole is just a shite area for football isn't it. Listening to radio WM now and no fucker is ever happy on there. Every club in the midlands is proper pants, they're relegated consistently, they're bland to watch and have problems on and off the pitch. Take away Leicesters one off last year, how can a region that contains so many professional football clubs be so bad of late.
Baggies fans might argue with you
Imagine if we had beaten them to Pulis before Tactics was appointed
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Now with added poll!
Add another option: All of the above.
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Now with added poll!
All 5?
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We've changed owners, managers, back room teams, directors, players many times in last few years and still not found winning formula..... our most passion and success seems to come from this with club backgrounds in first place....RON, GREGORY , sir BRIAN etc.
Who would best fit this bill now if we changed mgr again ?
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I didn't go, probably my only good decision this year. I like bruce, but he don't see whats happening, reacts to slowly apparently he had two subs stripped down in the second half and held them for 5 or 6 minutes before introducing them,
the grealish thing (he aint good enough) if your going to use him best brought on late, he does nothing when he starts. the subbing of Lansbury the one player ive seen who seems to work.
I'm worried.
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Yes, hello...is this Steve Bruce? Good...
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Thing is when I saw the result I wasn't even surprised. It's just an endless unrelenting stream of rubbish.
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I have never walked out early not even when we were losing 4-0 to Spurs and 6-0 to 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' but tonight I did straight after his stupid substitutions. My season tickets will rest in cupboards till he is gone.
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Thought it was poor with the booing second half. It just makes it harder for the players operating with low confidence and being expected to perform to a counsel of perfection.
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I'm stunned. Every week you just think how low can we go - and then they show you. We're actually in relegation trouble if any of them start picking up points regularly - and Wigan have won tonight I believe. Just cant believe it.
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We are fucked
We'll be bankrupt in two seasons when xia fucks off
This.
From now on it's about survival of the club, let alone our league standing.
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All Villa on Talksport tonight.
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We've played far worse but that is an utter humiliation, they were very comfortable at the end when we should have been throwing the kitchen sink at them.
Just so disjointed and so few players with the nous to up the tempo.
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Dr.T isn't like Lerner. He is a credible businessman. I'm certain he will be having some lengthy discussions with Round and Wyness trying to assess what the fuck is going on.
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On the plus side we are going to tear Division 3 a new one
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I have never walked out early not even when we were losing 4-0 to Spurs and 6-0 to 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' but tonight I did straight after his stupid substitutions. My season tickets will rest in cupboards till he is gone.
the Lansbury one?
I thought that was baffling.
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Bruce should've made only one or two changes in the January window. We were ok with the players he inherited and got a decent run together and got to the fringe of the play-offs. He's made a complete mess of it since January 1st.
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Dr.T isn't like Lerner. He is a credible businessman. I'm certain he will be having some lengthy discussions with Round and Wyness trying to assess what the fuck is going on.
Let's hope so. Being a savvy character, I'd be surprised if he's not doing this.
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His post match interview was just full of ifs, if this, if that, excuse after excuse, not good enough.
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Lansbury MUST have had a knock.
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All Villa on Talksport tonight.
Pundits or fans phone in ? What's being said ?
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Well done to anyone who goes week in week out, you're stronger people than me.
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He's a dinosaur - and you know what happened to them - extinct.
That's exactly what he is.
I can't help thinking of Dean Smiths Brentford and wondering, what if?
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Lansbury hasn't finished a game yet has he, another one lacking the required level of fitness but I like him. One of the few who goes into a tackle appearing to expect to win it. And that is where the problem lies, simple as that.
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On the plus side we are going to tear Division 3 a new one
Hutton will be quality in Division 3. Better give him a new contract.
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Hutton was fine, showed more fight than almost all of the others. We need more characters like him.
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I knew it wouldn't be plain sailing, and I never thought I'd have to bring this back, but:
Boot.
Human face.
Forever.
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Well that was the all out attacking formation you all requested....
For 20 minutes we were the better team.....Barnsley barely got out of their half and we have plenty of decent chances with Lansbury influential.
The problem I have is pretty much all season we concede the first goal, go to pot and lose.
It's a bit like what John e was saying yesterday. I too don't think it's all about tactics as we played what most fans would want to see tonight and still lost.
It's mentality. All these good players come to the club and shrink in the shirt....where was the fighting spirit and discipline when we go a goal down as even in this league we pretty much lose when we go a goal down.
As much as I try to defend SB and don't want yet another managerial change....6 defeats in 7 games is a total embarrassment. It was at premier league level and it certainly is in this league.
I just don't think there's any quick fit though given everything we've tried in the last 12 months.
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Just got home, I can't even put my finger on exactly what the fuck is wrong with us, theres a deep fundamental issue that turns good players at previous clubs into absolute cloggers at Villa.
That is not a team at all, 11 individuals, nobody knows what anybody in claret and blue is going to do with the ball, other than Baker will always knock it long, our movement is non existent but it has been for years.
We were actually controlling the game for the first 20 minutes but then we conceed and as ever we start to panic and nobody wants to take control of the ball after that, its a deep psychological issue at Villa, ill be fucked if i know how to solve it.
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44 shots in 180 mins is not bad (1 every 4 mins). Much as i would question his tactics its pretty clear the players have to take a lot of the blame, and I don't just mean the crappy defenders
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Just watched the goals. That muppet has to be the worst keeper we've ever had.
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He's a dinosaur - and you know what happened to them - extinct.
That's exactly what he is.
I can't help thinking of Dean Smiths Brentford and wondering, what if?
Totally this..his era has gone. Go get Rowett..
LLDLLLL in the championship with this group of players is sackable...he's panicking with formations just as others have done, he sets up too deep, messes about with formations and players positions. Not exactly the stance of a man who has confidence it will come good.
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Time for a New Manger Poll?..
fuck sake, this is soul destroying.
I want him gone, but it's completely pointless getting rid of him at this point. I don't think we'll go down, simply because the bottom three are horrific and at some point we'll start getting some results. But unless he wins a bare minimum of 8 games before the season finishes, he can fuck right off in May and wile away his days in the kebab shop of his choice.
The most frustrating thing though, is that on paper Bruce was exactly the appointment we needed. He started off well. I cannot fathom what happen. Furthermore, I have no idea who will come in who can improve things. We genuinely seem cursed.
We shit money out on average players. Why not spend the big money on getting a really top manager. If Rafa is happy to slum at at Newcastle in the Championship, we could get someone similar. You just have to pay them. We can't get by on just motivation now. We need someone tactically astute. Because if the motivator can't motivate, you're buggered.
Oh FFS!!
We won't go down because there are 3 teams worse than us is true enough.
But we have been here all too often, we shouldn't be ANYWHERE NEAR having to contemplate using those words again, but here we are again.
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Bring in a seriously good Sports (football) Psychologist ?
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Just watched the goals. That muppet has to be the worst keeper we've ever had.
You do wonder whether part of the problem is that the defence have no confidence in him.
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Just watched the goals. That muppet has to be the worst keeper we've ever had.
Sadly I think your correct and the sub is worse. I still can't understand how we could make what was a completely inept job of finding a decent championship keeper.
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Dr.T isn't like Lerner. He is a credible businessman. I'm certain he will be having some lengthy discussions with Round and Wyness trying to assess what the fuck is going on.
Nah. He'll be on twitter spouting some random nonsense. He's made very poor decisions in last 9 months
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No more ex Birmingham city agents please.
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We are quickly becoming irrelevant. If we are losing interest, chances are everyone else already has.
They aren't even showing our game in the 'selected results' from the championship on Sportsday In the BBC news channel.
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Can't keep sacking managers
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All Villa on Talksport tonight.
Pundits or fans phone in ? What's being said ?
Mostly Villa fans calling in to say their point. Split opinions on the players, the manager and our arrogant fans. A few Wolves and Leeds on now.
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Thought it was poor with the booing second half. It just makes it harder for the players operating with low confidence and being expected to perform to a counsel of perfection.
I agree on the Johnstone one. He's not great but he's hardly letting them in on purpose.
Lansbury was the best of the rabble and shouldn't have been subbed....could understand the booing on that one.
Jack's stock is falling every week....thought he'd be a standout player at this level.
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Just watched the goals. That muppet has to be the worst keeper we've ever had.
Sadly I think your correct and the sub is worse. I still can't understand how we could make what was a completely inept job of finding a decent championship keeper.
So true. Spend 50m and first choice keeper is inexperienced loanee. Its that stupid it makes you wonder if Bruce is doing it on purpose
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The defeat cannot be attributed just to the goalkeeper but he looked anything but convincing for the 2nd & 3rd Barnsley goals.
The Villa defence had ample opportunity to clear the ball before the 3rd goal.
Clearly, yet again a failure to come to terms with what is required to avoid defeat (never mind winning) a game in the Championship.
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Looking like two relegations in two seasons.
Terrific.
We are doing a Leeds/Portsmouth
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It's been said dozens of times already, .....but " the game at Villa Park is their CupFinal " they are mega wound-up....and we're not !
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Two positives tonight - it wasn't as cold as Saturday, and by staying right to the end I missed the traffic - the rest of the evening veered from tragic to almost comical. Again 11 expensively assembled individuals playing against a less expensively assembled team. I said it last week, but there's something rotten at Villa that turns previously good players in this division into poor ones at Villa - and that now seems to extend to the manager as well. Currently the only way we're going to get out of this Division is dropping to the one below. And it's got to the point where it doesn't even hurt any more.
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I was right behind the 3rd goal....it was very well place from Bradshaw past a group of defenders. Johnstone had no chance.
I did think though he did seem to dive very slowly for what was a decently placed shot for the 2nd.
He's not great though....every shot on target seems to be flying past him atm although I wouldn't say he's at fault for all of them.
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Two positives tonight - it wasn't as cold as Saturday, and by staying right to the end I missed the traffic - the rest of the evening veered from tragic to almost comical. Again 11 expensively assembled individuals playing against a less expensively assembled team. I said it last week, but there's something rotten at Villa that turns previously good players in this division into poor ones at Villa - and that now seems to extend to the manager as well. Currently the only way we're going to get out of this Division is dropping to the one below.
No it is not, that will consign us to oblivion.
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Someone is going to have to explain to me how Gollini is a worse goalkeeper than Sam Johnstone
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My brother called me to ask what the f*ck was going on (he lives in London and couldn't get here tonight), and at that precise moment, Bacuna played a pass to Hourihane (I think), who was stood off the pitch. I didn't need to say any more.
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I do take issue with the "toxic fanbase" thing I've seen a number of times. At this stage I personally am not asking for anything other than a bit of fight and a lot more work. Of course I want to see us batter teams but I wouldn't care right now if we scored with our first chance and then bored the crap out of everyone for 89 minutes. The players are being barracked not just because they panic, but because nobody can tell what they are supposed to be doing. We get confused by what we're seeing so that frustration is inevitable. Bruce's non-existent tactics don't keep the ball from going in the opposition net but they make it harder to take those rued chances on the chin.
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I think we should ban those you tube player montages from now on as they are all clearly fabricated. Hogan is a player from the festival league isn't he? Hourihane has never set foot in Yorkshire let alone Barnsley. The Icelandic chap mended fishing nets before he came to us and the keeper is a paint Sales Rep.
I'm sick to death of all our new signings being constantly so shit as soon as they put the shirt on.
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Two positives tonight - it wasn't as cold as Saturday, and by staying right to the end I missed the traffic - the rest of the evening veered from tragic to almost comical. Again 11 expensively assembled individuals playing against a less expensively assembled team. I said it last week, but there's something rotten at Villa that turns previously good players in this division into poor ones at Villa - and that now seems to extend to the manager as well. Currently the only way we're going to get out of this Division is dropping to the one below.
No it is not, that will consign us to oblivion.
We've taken 2 points from the last 8 league games - that is relegation form in my book and it seems beyond Bruce to change our current trajectory
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Having started well, we let the game slip but fortunately we got one back just before the break. I would have thought Bruce would have seen enough in the last 20 minutes of the half to realise that he had to make a change at the break so that we would take the initiative at the start of the 2nd half. As it was, more of the same which turned even worse before he made a change.
I watched England play on Saturday and Jones saw that Wales were slightly edging it just after half time as they raised the intensity and he made a strong call to counter it with substitutions earlier than he would have liked to make. I know it is a different sport but that is strong decisive management.
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We are fucked
We'll be bankrupt in two seasons when xia fucks off
This.
From now on it's about survival of the club, let alone our league standing.
This!! Genuine fear
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Gone to shit since calderwood came in as assistant! Coincidence? Probably, but just a thought
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Someone is going to have to explain to me how Gollini is a worse goalkeeper than Sam Johnstone
Agree completely.
Gollini had grown into his position from his early season errors and clearly the defence had more faith in him than Johnstone.
If anything, Johnstone should have come in for Bunn and be backup for Gollini.
Another fuck up!
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Having started well, we let the game slip but fortunately we got one back just before the break. I would have thought Bruce would have seen enough in the last 20 minutes of the half to realise that he had to make a change at the break so that we would take the initiative at the start of the 2nd half. As it was, more of the same which turned even worse before he made a change.
Was at the game and posted at half time that although we were 2-1 down, we had looked OK and at least had some shape. Cue usual second half collapse where yet another team of jobbing second tier players are made to look like a Champions League outfit. The back four and the goalkeeper looked jittery and we offered next to nothing going forward. We're back at the point where we don't look capable of winning football matches again.
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My brother called me to ask what the f*ck was going on (he lives in London and couldn't get here tonight), and at that precise moment, Bacuna played a pass to Hourihane (I think), who was stood off the pitch. I didn't need to say any more.
Did it reach the target?
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Gone to shit since calderwood came in as assistant! Coincidence? Probably, but just a thought
Said this earlier.
Results since Bruce came in, until Calderwood started was DWWDWD.
Results since Calderwood became assistant was WLWLWWDLLLDLLLL.
You can't exactly pinpoint it on Calderwood, but he could be part of problem coupled with 'gate gate', AFCON, mid season squad change..
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I have supported Villa for 45 years and this is the worst I have ever seen. There is no confidence and no cohesion because there are no leaders and no leadership. But these players are certainly good enough at least for this league. A bit of patience is required.
Panic got the club into the current mess. Sacking managers constantly will just deepen the mire.
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Maybe it's something to do with that awful song that the players come out to... sounds like something you would hear at a circus and the players then proceed to act like clowns for 90 minutes.
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Gone to shit since calderwood came in as assistant! Coincidence? Probably, but just a thought
Said this earlier.
Results since Bruce came in, until Calderwood started was DWWDWD.
Results since Calderwood became assistant was WLWLWWDLLLDLLLL.
You can't exactly pinpoint it on Calderwood, but he could be part of problem coupled with 'gate gate', AFCON, mid season squad change..
Ok, what about since we changed keepers?
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I stuck it out as usual to the bitter end, but that is probably the nadir of my time as a Villa supporter.
No cohesion, no link up play of any note, a woeful lack of drive and seemingly effort.
Amavi's shocking performances are just not shocking any more, but nobody came out with credit.
If the players we have recently signed were the best at their former clubs, what on earth are we doing to them or in training?!
Scott Hogan must have something about him to have scored 14 goals this season, but he already resembles a poorer version of Gary Penrice.
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Not the best result, but hoping for a good showing at Newcastle in our next fixture
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Just watched the goals. That muppet has to be the worst keeper we've ever had.
You do wonder whether part of the problem is that the defence have no confidence in him.
The defence would rather belt the ball away rather than let him have it.
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We are going to give someone a good thrashing soon.
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All I hope is that tonight is as bad as it gets.
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Gone to shit since calderwood came in as assistant! Coincidence? Probably, but just a thought
Said this earlier.
Results since Bruce came in, until Calderwood started was DWWDWD.
Results since Calderwood became assistant was WLWLWWDLLLDLLLL.
You can't exactly pinpoint it on Calderwood, but he could be part of problem coupled with 'gate gate', AFCON, mid season squad change..
Ok, what about since we changed keepers?
Ok so Gollini last played against Norwich which from Bruce starting was:
DWWDWDWLWL
Then Bunn started next four:
WWDL
Then Johnstone since:
LLDLLLL
Speaks for itself really.
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We are going to give someone get a good thrashing from someone soon.
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All I hope is that tonight is as bad as it gets.
Can't see it Des. Watching that tonight, I honestly can't see us winning a game at the moment.
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Gone to shit since calderwood came in as assistant! Coincidence? Probably, but just a thought
Said this earlier.
Results since Bruce came in, until Calderwood started was DWWDWD.
Results since Calderwood became assistant was WLWLWWDLLLDLLLL.
You can't exactly pinpoint it on Calderwood, but he could be part of problem coupled with 'gate gate', AFCON, mid season squad change..
Ok, what about since we changed keepers?
Ok so Gollini last played against Norwich which from Bruce starting was:
DWWDWDWLWL
Then Bunn started next four:
WWDL
Then Johnstone since:
LLDLLLL
Speaks for itself really.
Surely part of the problem? Bruce helped make us more solid at the back when he arrived now we're as bad as ever. Drop him and let Man Utd develop their own players FFS. I'm not a fan
Of Bunn but he's got to be better.
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Gone to shit since calderwood came in as assistant! Coincidence? Probably, but just a thought
Said this earlier.
Results since Bruce came in, until Calderwood started was DWWDWD.
Results since Calderwood became assistant was WLWLWWDLLLDLLLL.
You can't exactly pinpoint it on Calderwood, but he could be part of problem coupled with 'gate gate', AFCON, mid season squad change..
Ok, what about since we changed keepers?
Ok so Gollini last played against Norwich which from Bruce starting was:
DWWDWDWLWL
Then Bunn started next four:
WWDL
Then Johnstone since:
LLDLLLL
Speaks for itself really.
Surely part of the problem? Bruce helped make us more solid at the back when he arrived now we're as bad as ever. Drop him and let Man Utd develop their own players FFS. I'm not a fan
Of Bunn but he's got to be better.
Surely the management team are capable of this type of simple analysis?
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Gone to shit since calderwood came in as assistant! Coincidence? Probably, but just a thought
Said this earlier.
Results since Bruce came in, until Calderwood started was DWWDWD.
Results since Calderwood became assistant was WLWLWWDLLLDLLLL.
You can't exactly pinpoint it on Calderwood, but he could be part of problem coupled with 'gate gate', AFCON, mid season squad change..
Ok, what about since we changed keepers?
Ok so Gollini last played against Norwich which from Bruce starting was:
DWWDWDWLWL
Then Bunn started next four:
WWDL
Then Johnstone since:
LLDLLLL
Speaks for itself really.
couldn't agree more in terms of having a boss as your goalkeeper. All winning teams start with a decent keeper.
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It's often quoted, mainly by me on Twitter, that Brian Clough said a decent keeper will win you ten points a season. That's why he bought Peter Shilton. By my reckoning, shite keepers have cost us more than that in six months.
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It's often quoted, mainly by me on Twitter, that Brian Clough said a decent keeper will win you ten points a season. That's why he bought Peter Shilton. By my reckoning, shite keepers have cost us more than that in six months.
the problem we will have in the summer is trying to attract decent players to the club. They will look at us as a spent item.
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I bailed with 5 to go and walking down Witton Lane to go to the train station and hearing Barnsley fans, fucking Barnsley, "oleing" as they leave VP with 3 points is a pretty fucking good low.
As for the game, we played well at times yet again, and yet again we lost. Hogan and Amavi were shit, so is football.
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The keeper is just dreadful. I've rewatched the goals, and even allowing for the defensive fuck ups in front of him, he does really badly. He goes down in installments for the second which was just a tame shot from a random swing of the leg, and is beaten far too easily at his near post for the third. Absolutely horrendous, and I think his lack of ability is making the defence panic.
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Another dismal night if your a Villa fan .I am starting to think maybe there is a curse on the club When you think of the money spent on McCormack and Hogan alone and then see Bent (another two tonight to add to his two Saturday) and Robinson scoring regularly and we gave them away it makes you wonder
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Gone to shit since calderwood came in as assistant! Coincidence? Probably, but just a thought
Said this earlier.
Results since Bruce came in, until Calderwood started was DWWDWD.
Results since Calderwood became assistant was WLWLWWDLLLDLLLL.
You can't exactly pinpoint it on Calderwood, but he could be part of problem coupled with 'gate gate', AFCON, mid season squad change..
Ok, what about since we changed keepers?
Ok so Gollini last played against Norwich which from Bruce starting was:
DWWDWDWLWL
Then Bunn started next four:
WWDL
Then Johnstone since:
LLDLLLL
Speaks for itself really.
Surely part of the problem? Bruce helped make us more solid at the back when he arrived now we're as bad as ever. Drop him and let Man Utd develop their own players FFS. I'm not a fan
Of Bunn but he's got to be better.
Surely the management team are capable of this type of simple analysis?
I suspect that's the current problem at all levels within the club. Bernstein in his resignation letter spoke about the complete review and overhaul required, which was rejected by Lerner. It looks to me that the review was never done by the current owner given the chaotic chopping and changing that has gone on this season.Nothing structured just the continual throwing away of money.
There is something fundamentally wrong at our club.
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The bus ride to the the train station was ghastly.
The train journey was even ghastlier.
The so called football was ghastly beyond belief.
The train ride back was so ghastly that we disembarked at a station which left us with a 3 mile walk.
A person can only take so much ghastliness, and I shall be spending no more money or emotional energy on this unmitigated shower of shit this season. Thank The Almighty that the cricket season starts earlier each year.
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Predictable result (ish) & completely unacceptable.
Bruce OUT (unless Scunthorpe on a Tuesday night is on your 'must do' list in 2017).
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I was about to say. Isn't it about time we had a 'Taylor Report' type investigation to try and get to the root cause of the issues engulfing the club?
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I wonder when the last time was that so few were in VP for a league game? I reckon there was around 22-23K actually in the ground tonight.
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I wonder when the last time was that so few were in VP for a league game? I reckon there was around 22-23K actually in the ground tonight.
86/87 ?
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We were still getting some sub 20K attendances into at least 92/93.
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Early 92/93 under BFR I think we had some sub 23k crowds in the league. Unbelieveable isn't it as those really were halcyon days
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We had less than 20K when we stuffed Boro to go top in 92/93.
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A quick check at the records and we had 22,310 against Bradford in 2000. A few 22-23K in 1994/95. Our last sub 20K seems to Man City in 93/94 19,254. Although the lowest that season was 16,180 v Saints. Our lowest in 92/93 was 17,120 v Palace.
I bet you're all very excited!
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A quick check at the records and we had 22,310 against Bradford in 2000. A few 22-23K in 1994/95. Our last sub 20K seems to Man City in 93/94 19,254. Although the lowest that season was 16,180 v Saints. Our lowest in 92/93 was 17,120 v Palace.
I bet you're all very excited!
Will be interesting to see what crowds we get next year even if we're fortunate enough to stay in this division. Can't see as many STs being sold as the novelty has well and truly worn off
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At least it wasn't six nil..........
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Someone's due a thrashin...
What's the point
We buy poorly
We choose managers poorly
2-6k a week go to away games
30-40k watch home games
We have great owner
Idiots like me sit and listen on the radio hoping
So many of our ex players are playing well elsewhere
Who was the last manager to go on to a better job?
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The only consolation I have is that I'm a long way from Brum and don't have to endure the humiliation of turning up for work tomorrow morning and enduring the latest taunts from my colleagues.
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Did not kick off here till 23.45hrs, so decided I would give it a miss, as work this morning, then you wake up and are just not surprised to see the scoreline 1-3, to Barnsley, not Bournemouth, Burnley, god forbid Barcelona, No fing Barnsley. It is a long way back from where we are presently going and have we reached the bottom yet, with Mr. Bruce at the helm I think not.
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Like everyone else I'm somewhat nonplussed about what's happening. And like others, I come on here with the solution, be it at club level, management level or indeed on the pitch. But that's been done. A lot.
So what to do? Nothing. No managerial change. Stick with it. Have faith and be brave. For example, Norwich went through an horrific run of form with only 2 wins in 12 with 5 straight losses. Everyone said Neil was for the chop but they stuck with him and have recovered somewhat.
The initial reaction is to weep and wail but now is the time for calm. Yes I'm concerned about a further relegation, no, I have no idea what the manager is doing but having given in some serious thought, I can't think of another path to go down that we haven't already trodden and not ended up scraping our shoe on the grass verge.
Close your eyes, cross your fingers and hope for the best.
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Like everyone else I'm somewhat nonplussed about what's happening. And like others, I come on here with the solution, be it at club level, management level or indeed on the pitch. But that's been done. A lot.
So what to do? Nothing. No managerial change. Stick with it. Have faith and be brave. For example, Norwich went through an horrific run of form with only 2 wins in 12 with 5 straight losses. Everyone said Neil was for the chop but they stuck with him and have recovered somewhat.
The initial reaction is to weep and wail but now is the time for calm. Yes I'm concerned about a further relegation, no, I have no idea what the manager is doing but having given in some serious thought, I can't think of another path to go down that we haven't already trodden and not ended up scraping our shoe on the grass verge.
Close your eyes, cross your fingers and hope for the best.
Yep it's called faith, sometimes it's all you have as a supporter.
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A quick check at the records and we had 22,310 against Bradford in 2000. A few 22-23K in 1994/95. Our last sub 20K seems to Man City in 93/94 19,254. Although the lowest that season was 16,180 v Saints. Our lowest in 92/93 was 17,120 v Palace.
I bet you're all very excited!
"WHERE WERE WE, WHERE WERE WE,
WHERE WERE WE, WHEN WE WERE GOOD?"
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A quick check at the records and we had 22,310 against Bradford in 2000. A few 22-23K in 1994/95. Our last sub 20K seems to Man City in 93/94 19,254. Although the lowest that season was 16,180 v Saints. Our lowest in 92/93 was 17,120 v Palace.
I bet you're all very excited!
Will be interesting to see what crowds we get next year even if we're fortunate enough to stay in this division. Can't see as many STs being sold as the novelty has well and truly worn off
Maybe, but Villa fans always turn up to watch a winning team, so if we have a decent season next year the fans will do their bit. If only it was that easy though...
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I thought there were around 25k last night. On the way home I couldn't help but recall some (amended) Neil Young lyrics - Aston Villa were left to die on the pitch, and in the stands, the home crowd scattered, for the turnstiles.
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The alternative, Nev, to crossing your fingers and hoping for the best is to walk away. There is going to be a lot of walking away.
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The only consolation I have is that I'm a long way from Brum and don't have to endure the humiliation of turning up for work tomorrow morning and enduring the latest taunts from my colleagues.
I had Noses at work trying to take the piss and they lost as well.
That just about sums them up really.
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The only consolation I have is that I'm a long way from Brum and don't have to endure the humiliation of turning up for work tomorrow morning and enduring the latest taunts from my colleagues.
Work in sunny Bilston, the 3 Albion twats who work there will be lying in wait when I arrive about 10 am, smirking giggling horrible fuckers who never let it go, thanks Villa.
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We had patches (albeit very few) where we didn't play too badly but overall there was no belief, not a lot of fight and a massive lack of confidence. It might just take a win to give us the lift we need but at the moment, you just can't see that coming.
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Thought it was poor with the booing second half. It just makes it harder for the players operating with low confidence and being expected to perform to a counsel of perfection.
Responding out of sheer frustration to 2 points in 8 games and shocking lack of desire and execution seems perfectly reasonable to me. Or should we sit there and applaud politely as every defeat unfolds?
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The alternative, Nev, to crossing your fingers and hoping for the best is to walk away. There is going to be a lot of walking away.
Not by you Brian, you are in too deep.
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Thought it was poor with the booing second half. It just makes it harder for the players operating with low confidence and being expected to perform to a counsel of perfection.
Responding out of sheer frustration to 2 points in 8 games and shocking lack of desire and execution seems perfectly reasonable to me. Or should we sit there and applaud politely as every defeat unfolds?
I think that would be better yes or singing a few Villa songs and getting behind them during the 90. Booing does make it worse.
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I agree with you there, Ads. If one of your colleagues at work is underperforming, go and stand behind their seat and boo at them. I bet they don't get any better. The booing is part of the spiral of failure. It only makes it twist downwards quicker.
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We look like the most mentally fragile team ever.
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Surely the management team are capable of this type of simple analysis?
It's post-fact world now
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Did not kick off here till 23.45hrs, so decided I would give it a miss, as work this morning, then you wake up and are just not surprised to see the scoreline 1-3, to Barnsley, not Bournemouth, Burnley, god forbid Barcelona, No fing Barnsley. It is a long way back from where we are presently going and have we reached the bottom yet, with Mr. Bruce at the helm I think not.
Considering how Barcelona played last night, even Villa might have beat them
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The dithering over the substitutions was strange. Bjork and Green were ready to come on, then they were told to put the bibs back on but then told to take them off again.
Why take off McCafu when he was one of the few attacking threats and actually putting some good crosses in ? Switching Adomah to right-back only to almost immediately bring Bacuna on to play right back wasted a substitution.
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Thought it was poor with the booing second half. It just makes it harder for the players operating with low confidence and being expected to perform to a counsel of perfection.
Responding out of sheer frustration to 2 points in 8 games and shocking lack of desire and execution seems perfectly reasonable to me. Or should we sit there and applaud politely as every defeat unfolds?
I thought the crowd were remarkably positive for the larger part of the game.
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The post match discussion in the pub has reached the point where no one can figure out what the fuck is going on. Someone even put forward that the only thing we haven't changed is the back room staff. He thought maybe the kit man or the groundsman is a nose and is somehow managing to sabotage the club. He was fucking serious!!!
Desperate times indeed. I said someone is due a thrashing when we start to gel. Well he started it.
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I listened to Paul Merson on Talk Sport this morning.
He was saying that we had plucked players from lower league / smaller championship clubs who were used to playing in front of smaller crowds with lower pressures. And then they come to us and have to play in front of 30,000 + crowds and simply can't hack it.
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Which is all well and good and Merson maybe right about the new guys but what about the batch before? And the batch before that?
We are a palimpsest of players from several managers. Why it never works out only the universe knows, because I am out of answers.
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It's often quoted, mainly by me on Twitter, that Brian Clough said a decent keeper will win you ten points a season. That's why he bought Peter Shilton. By my reckoning, shite keepers have cost us more than that in six months.
and that was probably in the days of 2 pts for a win, so by his logic it's probably more than that now - maybe 13-15?
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Which is all well and good and Merson maybe right about the new guys but what about the batch before? And the batch before that?
We are a palimpsest of players from several managers. Why it never works out only the universe knows, because I am out of answers.
Word of the day award!!
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Which is all well and good and Merson maybe right about the new guys but what about the batch before? And the batch before that?
We are a palimpsest of players from several managers. Why it never works out only the universe knows, because I am out of answers.
Word of the day award!!
I wonder how many people had to Google that one!
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i'm looking forward to monday night...
sutton v arsenal.
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At least being waterboarded gives you a chance to breathe (hope)
But it's the hope that kills you
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Anyone know where Bree was last night?
You'd have though even if he had a broken leg he'd have wanted to get out there against his old club.
I can already see where this one is going....another massively hyped young player when the reality is he's pretty injury prone.
Alan Hutton must be one of the luckiest player alive...any player we sign to replace him gets injured within a week.
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My latest theory as to why we have been in decline for a number of years.
Bodymoor Heath.
Since we built this state of the art facility we have been going down the dip.
Does this place make players feel that they 'have made it'. That they have reached their pinnacle and can coast ?
Or did we bulldoze an ancient Indian burial ground in preparation for the new swimming pool.
Marry the training ground with Villa Park, and players must feel like superstars, without actually needing to perform like one.
Of course, its clutching a straws and can't be the real reason....but there must be some deep, entrenched reason why the club is like it is?
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Anyone know where Bree was last night?
You'd have though even if he had a broken leg he'd have wanted to get out there against his old club.
I can already see where this one is going....another massively hyped young player when the reality is he's pretty injury prone.
Alan Hutton must be one of the luckiest player alive...any player we sign to replace him gets injured within a week.
Infected knee.
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I listened to Paul Merson on Talk Sport this morning.
He was saying that we had plucked players from lower league / smaller championship clubs who were used to playing in front of smaller crowds with lower pressures. And then they come to us and have to play in front of 30,000 + crowds and simply can't hack it.
Somebody on Twitter posts regular videos of Merson spouting his moronic bullshit. The best i've seen was when him and Phil Thompson were tearing into Marco Silva when he was appointed Hull manager. Nobody had heard of him, he's a joke and why didn't they persevere with Phelan or appoint an English manager with knowledge of the Premier League etc. These people are paid to spout such ill informed bullshit, it does make you wonder whether he's been advising Aston Villa for a few years now.
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The dithering over the substitutions was strange. Bjork and Green were ready to come on, then they were told to put the bibs back on but then told to take them off again.
Why take off McCafu when he was one of the few attacking threats and actually putting some good crosses in ? Switching Adomah to right-back only to almost immediately bring Bacuna on to play right back wasted a substitution.
This was the straw that broke my back and I walked out I am ashamed to say. Say what we like about Hutton but last night he was our most effective player and Lansbury was best midfielder. He should have subbed Grealish and Hourihane. It was piss poor decision based on nothing but "oh I have to be seen to be doing something".
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The post match discussion in the pub has reached the point where no one can figure out what the fuck is going on. Someone even put forward that the only thing we haven't changed is the back room staff. He thought maybe the kit man or the groundsman is a nose and is somehow managing to sabotage the club. He was fucking serious!!!
The kit man might not be a nose, but our social media dickhead is. https://twitter.com/jeavons24
He hasn't even bothered to delete old tweets. https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=from%3Ajeavons24%20villa&src=typd
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We need a Graham Taylor type to come in a completely obliterate the malaise from top to bottom. The players need to realise they're playing for Aston f*cking Villa and anything less than 100% application along with the ability to pass a ball 3 yards and stick in a decent cross will not be tolerated. I have absolutely zero hard evidence for this but from the outside looking in it seems as if players come to the come in order to collect a healthy pay check while putting in the minimum of effort. I really feel we need a ruthless dictator who will control of every aspect of the playing side of the club from top to bottom. Someone who will play the kids if the senior pros aren't pulling their weight. Someone who will talk the club up as the giant of English football that it is. Someone who cares as much as the fans do and won't accept losing to (no disrespect) tin-pot clubs such as Barnsley at home on a Tuesday night.
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I do not want to read this thread!
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The post match discussion in the pub has reached the point where no one can figure out what the fuck is going on. Someone even put forward that the only thing we haven't changed is the back room staff. He thought maybe the kit man or the groundsman is a nose and is somehow managing to sabotage the club. He was fucking serious!!!
The kit man might not be a nose, but our social media dickhead is. https://twitter.com/jeavons24
He hasn't even bothered to delete old tweets. https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=from%3Ajeavons24%20villa&src=typd
Christ in heaven.
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If you're going to employ a social media dickhead, wouldn't it be an idea to, y'know, have a look at his social media?
For the sake of fuck.
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So our Social Media Executive has tweeted things like "Despite hating the villa" "#shitonthevilla" "Praying di canio can help send the villa down tonight #rivals #hatewithapassion" "Always good seeing the villa lose" in the past.
Fuck me.
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How is that acceptable?
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Oh my, that is....well....extraordinary.
Fucking hell.
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If you're going to employ a social media dickhead, wouldn't it be an idea to, y'know, have a look at his social media?
For the sake of fuck.
And just when you think we might be getting our act together off the pitch at least. You have to laugh or you'd cry.....................,
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When employing a new social media expert you'd like to think that a) we'd check his social media and b) as he's an expert he'd delete all his posts slagging off his soon to be new employers.
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And people still think there isn't a problem at the club beyond the manager?
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The Meaning Evil will be wiping jizz off the walls in anticipation at rubbing our noses (pardon the pun) in this one,
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I don't give a shite if employees at the club are Villa fans or not. I do care if they admit they hate us with a passion, especially when the job is communication with the people he hates.
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He can keep Brucey company in the taxi out of BMH
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The post match discussion in the pub has reached the point where no one can figure out what the fuck is going on. Someone even put forward that the only thing we haven't changed is the back room staff. He thought maybe the kit man or the groundsman is a nose and is somehow managing to sabotage the club. He was fucking serious!!!
The kit man might not be a nose, but our social media dickhead is. https://twitter.com/jeavons24
He hasn't even bothered to delete old tweets. https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=from%3Ajeavons24%20villa&src=typd
Christ in heaven.
Times like this is when the retweet button comes in handy. Which one should we all retweet?
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Maybe start by taking a screen shot, informing the club and waving him goodbye with the same meme gif he used to wave us out the PL with.
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It's now on our FB Page and my Twatter feed.
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It's now on our FB Page and my Twatter feed.
I'd be careful, its discrimination.
Webbed feet f**ckers.
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A screenshot is a good idea.
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I don't ever want people to lose their jobs but when you really take the piss you fucking deserve it.
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TBF he does state "views are my own and not those of the club" in his bio
He's still a ****** though
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TBF he does state "views are my own and not those of the club" in his bio
He's still a c*** though
As an employee and representative of the club then he's not entitled to spout his opinion about his employer that are considered inflammatory or offensive. Standard use of IT/social media policy that many organisations have.
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He's deleted most of the tweets now, he said those things before he was employed by us so I doubt there is anything against any club policy.
It's that the club either didn't check his social media or if they did they didn't care. Both strike me as unacceptable when employing someone whose job is communicating with fans, fans he hates.
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How on earth can a football club employ somebody to work in social media without checking their social media beforehand? And if they did why didn't they suggest he deleted all his previous tweets or better still give the job to somebody who doesn't hate Villa?
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I hope this has been bought to the attention of the club.
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I worked at a firm who used to check your twitter / face book messages before you were offered a job, and I know that 1 potential employee was not offered a job because what they had previously stated on social media
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If I'd been a 'social media executive' for less than six months, and my employer got wind I hated them, and I'd already published the fact in the public domain for all the world to see - on social media - I think I could expect not to see out my probationary period.
But yes, one word sums all this up on Villa's part: complacency. That's been the story at the club for years and years, and the whole organisation will continue to sink until it's stamped out.
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I listened to Paul Merson on Talk Sport this morning.
He was saying that we had plucked players from lower league / smaller championship clubs who were used to playing in front of smaller crowds with lower pressures. And then they come to us and have to play in front of 30,000 + crowds and simply can't hack it.
Somebody on Twitter posts regular videos of Merson spouting his moronic bullshit. The best i've seen was when him and Phil Thompson were tearing into Marco Silva when he was appointed Hull manager. Nobody had heard of him, he's a joke and why didn't they persevere with Phelan or appoint an English manager with knowledge of the Premier League etc. These people are paid to spout such ill informed bullshit, it does make you wonder whether he's been advising Aston Villa for a few years now.
Yep it's the typical xenophobic nonsense you hear from football pundits.
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Let's hope a few more checks are made before filling the Club archivist post that's currently being advertised. There's a few sad Noses who'd love the job of wiping away our history.
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Let's hope a few more checks are made before filling the Club archivist post that's currently being advertised. There's a few sad Noses who'd live the job of wiping away our history.
Good point.
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We need a Graham Taylor type to come in a completely obliterate the malaise from top to bottom. The players need to realise they're playing for Aston f*cking Villa and anything less than 100% application along with the ability to pass a ball 3 yards and stick in a decent cross will not be tolerated. I have absolutely zero hard evidence for this but from the outside looking in it seems as if players come to the come in order to collect a healthy pay check while putting in the minimum of effort. I really feel we need a ruthless dictator who will control of every aspect of the playing side of the club from top to bottom. Someone who will play the kids if the senior pros aren't pulling their weight. Someone who will talk the club up as the giant of English football that it is. Someone who cares as much as the fans do and won't accept losing to (no disrespect) tin-pot clubs such as Barnsley at home on a Tuesday night.
Bruce was brought in as that type of appointment though and he is being dragged into the downwards spiral as well. I don't see another Graham Taylor out there at the minute to be honest.
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We are only getting in a tizz about the media bloke because we got walloped last night.
Ordinarily, we'd have laughed it off or remained in the dark about it (as most were until a couple of hours ago).
Big deal - there are much bigger things to get irate and upset about.
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We are only getting in a tizz about the media bloke because we got walloped last night.
Ordinarily, we'd have laughed it off
Of course we would.
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I always thought that a 'nadir' was supposed to the lowest point, from where you again rise. Not something to be experienced on a fucking continuous basis.
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I always thought that a 'nadir' was supposed to the lowest point, from where you again rise. Not something to be experienced on a fucking continuous basis.
We WILL rise again - possibly not in this lifetime but we will one day.
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Let's hope a few more checks are made before filling the Club archivist post that's currently being advertised. There's a few sad Noses who'd love the job of wiping away our history.
The best archivist we had was one of them. It doesn't matter as long as they do the job properly.
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The dithering over the substitutions was strange. Bjork and Green were ready to come on, then they were told to put the bibs back on but then told to take them off again.
Why take off McCafu when he was one of the few attacking threats and actually putting some good crosses in ? Switching Adomah to right-back only to almost immediately bring Bacuna on to play right back wasted a substitution.
This was the straw that broke my back and I walked out I am ashamed to say. Say what we like about Hutton but last night he was our most effective player and Lansbury was best midfielder. He should have subbed Grealish and Hourihane. It was piss poor decision based on nothing but "oh I have to be seen to be doing something".
This was the same point when I walked out, I was fuming substituting our best two players on the night! Was I watching a totally different game to Bruce?
Absolutely clueless, Green for Grealish should have been the first sub after 60 minutes (or earlier) and access the situation after another 10 minutes.
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We’d usually publish highlights around now, but these are hard times. So while you can watch those over on our official YouTube channel, we wanted to thank our fans for your continued support and let John Flanner remind us why we’ll always be ‘Villa Till We Die....’
That's the heading to a video the club have put up on facebook. I can't decide if it's taking the piss out of the performances or asking for patience, seems to slip neatly between the 2.
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Green should have started instead of Grealish. At this present moment Jack doesn't deserve to be in the squad at the moment. Substitutions were strange. I thought Hutton and Lansbury were the best players on the pitch. Adomah needs to run on he too often cuts back to the halfway line which is where Hutton is and it gets bottle knecked. If he runs on space opens up for one of them or releases a midfielder.
Bruce needs to see this because if we can and he can't then we're in bigger trouble than we realise.
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Should have offered wagner
The job.3 million his squad cost
Now 3rd in the league
But no we all know best
Bruce is a typical English manager fucking Dinosaur
Piss head, kebab eaters,gamblers, talk sport lovers
Will be asking for big Sam next
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Is this guy freelance or actually solely employed by the club?
You'd have thought him retweeting SHA news and promoting some of their schemes like Gardner would've made the club act.
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The one good thing about last night was Morley and Sid in the Holte Suite before the game taking part in a pre-match build up chat. It was a good idea, whoever thought of it.
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Which is all well and good and Merson maybe right about the new guys but what about the batch before? And the batch before that?
We are a palimpsest of players from several managers. Why it never works out only the universe knows, because I am out of answers.
Word of the day award!!
I first saw it as the title of a Gore Vidal book. I recommend the word. The book is more of an acquired taste.
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Just looked at the stats for Reading v Brentford from yesterday as i live in Reading. Reading 12 shots Brentford 23 and 50-50 possession. All adds to the fucking mystery. There is definitely some greater power at play
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Just seen the Barnsley 'goals' First was never a penalty, second was a mishit shot and the third should've been cleared at least twice before Bradshaw got the shot away. A joke. Parks footballers could do better....
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I suspect that's the current problem at all levels within the club. Bernstein in his resignation letter spoke about the complete review and overhaul required, which was rejected by Lerner. It looks to me that the review was never done by the current owner given the chaotic chopping and changing that has gone on this season.Nothing structured just the continual throwing away of money.
There is something fundamentally wrong at our club.
Maybe we should ask Bernstein to send that review to Dr Tony Xia.
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Just seen a replay of the 'penalty' for the first time. Thought it was a really bad decision at the time. Seeing it again it borders on outrageous.
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Fake football. So sad.
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Should have offered wagner
The job.3 million his squad cost
Now 3rd in the league
But no we all know best
Bruce is a typical English manager fucking Dinosaur
Piss head, kebab eaters,gamblers, talk sport lovers
Will be asking for big Sam next
Do you do the social media for the club?
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Should have offered wagner
The job.3 million his squad cost
Now 3rd in the league
But no we all know best
Bruce is a typical English manager fucking Dinosaur
Piss head, kebab eaters,gamblers, talk sport lovers
Will be asking for big Sam next
Do you do the social media for the club?
Our social media is ran by a bluenose.
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Should have offered wagner
The job.3 million his squad cost
Now 3rd in the league
But no we all know best
Bruce is a typical English manager fucking Dinosaur
Piss head, kebab eaters,gamblers, talk sport lovers
Will be asking for big Sam next
Do you do the social media for the club?
Our social media is ran by a bluenose.
I'm trying to work out what tune to sing it to.
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It's the new Sleaford Mods one isn't it?
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Should have offered wagner
The job.3 million his squad cost
Now 3rd in the league
But no we all know best
Bruce is a typical English manager fucking Dinosaur
Piss head, kebab eaters,gamblers, talk sport lovers
Will be asking for big Sam next
Do you do the social media for the club?
Our social media is ran by a bluenose.
I'm trying to work out what tune to sing it to.
There's 'My old Man' or Madness's 'Our House', but I reckon it would be better served shouted out over Marshall Jefferson's 'Move Your Body'
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You can also get it to work with Should I Stay Or Should I Go. Needs a chorus.
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I agree with you there, Ads. If one of your colleagues at work is underperforming, go and stand behind their seat and boo at them. I bet they don't get any better. The booing is part of the spiral of failure. It only makes it twist downwards quicker.
If anything booing makes you take less risks because it engenders fear in the players. The fewer risks you take, the more square balls we play or more we become static.
Lansbury seems immune to this mind which is why I'd like him 15 to 20 yards higher up the pitch.
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Doesn't all this go to say that it is not the manager, nor the team we should change.......but the crowd !?
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I agree with you there, Ads. If one of your colleagues at work is underperforming, go and stand behind their seat and boo at them. I bet they don't get any better. The booing is part of the spiral of failure. It only makes it twist downwards quicker.
If anything booing makes you take less risks because it engenders fear in the players. The fewer risks you take, the more square balls we play or more we become static.
Lansbury seems immune to this mind which is why I'd like him 15 to 20 yards higher up the pitch.
Frankly, with respect, that's load of bollocks analogies. Part of all of us paying money and giving up family time to go and watch the Villa is to be entertained. We are supposed to be watching professionals perform who are paid the sort of money we can only dream about. I never resort to booing but defend the right of those who choose to do so. I bet it was painful for lot of fans to shell out for two home matches within 4 days and witness awful awful performances.
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I don't think there's necessarily a correlation between wages and the effects of a negative atmosphere. Singing pro-Villa songs at three options of your voice may not have any negligible effect. It won't make it worse though.
Booing does. It doesn't matter how much players earn, a chorus of white hanky's and whistles at the Bernabeu and suddenly very good players feel even more pressure.
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We all like to be entertained - with a positive outcome. But we know by now, surely, that can't and doesn't happen all the time.
We all want the exciting days of the MON era back....but that's not coming soon and our expectations should no longer be that if Man U or Chelski come next week, we'll give 'em a run for their money.
We now have to cut our cloth to suit and hope we can silence BarCode Park next Monday and do a trick or two in the matches that are yet to come.
We have to be ready to support these guys and if a bad atmosphere is created that is too negative for them to cope with.
Time for the Psycho, I say.
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Norman Bates?
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Can't see us re-creating the same expanse with such a big shower, somehow !
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Norman Bates?
He'd slash the wage bill.
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.... wrote " suspense " no idea where expense came from.
Anyway, slash as you might, it would take a long time to get everyone !
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I agree with you there, Ads. If one of your colleagues at work is underperforming, go and stand behind their seat and boo at them. I bet they don't get any better. The booing is part of the spiral of failure. It only makes it twist downwards quicker.
If anything booing makes you take less risks because it engenders fear in the players. The fewer risks you take, the more square balls we play or more we become static.
Lansbury seems immune to this mind which is why I'd like him 15 to 20 yards higher up the pitch.
Frankly, with respect, that's load of bollocks analogies. Part of all of us paying money and giving up family time to go and watch the Villa is to be entertained. We are supposed to be watching professionals perform who are paid the sort of money we can only dream about. I never resort to booing but defend the right of those who choose to do so. I bet it was painful for lot of fans to shell out for two home matches within 4 days and witness awful awful performances.
Nobody said it wasn't the right of supporters to boo. But it doesn't make a consistently struggling team perform better. There's clearly a deep-seated, ongoing problem at Villa Park that all the booing in the world won't fix.
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I agree with you there, Ads. If one of your colleagues at work is underperforming, go and stand behind their seat and boo at them. I bet they don't get any better. The booing is part of the spiral of failure. It only makes it twist downwards quicker.
If anything booing makes you take less risks because it engenders fear in the players. The fewer risks you take, the more square balls we play or more we become static.
Lansbury seems immune to this mind which is why I'd like him 15 to 20 yards higher up the pitch.
Frankly, with respect, that's load of bollocks analogies. Part of all of us paying money and giving up family time to go and watch the Villa is to be entertained. We are supposed to be watching professionals perform who are paid the sort of money we can only dream about. I never resort to booing but defend the right of those who choose to do so. I bet it was painful for lot of fans to shell out for two home matches within 4 days and witness awful awful performances.
Just because you have a right to something does not mean it is the right thing to do.
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I'm not a fan of booing but can understand why it happens. We've won 11 of our last 71 league games. Folks have spent a lot of time and money watching us during that time, patience isn't always going to be there.
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Just seen a replay of the 'penalty' for the first time. Thought it was a really bad decision at the time. Seeing it again it borders on outrageous.
The only one in the ground who thought it was a penalty was the ref, only Barnsley player appealing was the fucker who slipped / dived. Never a penalty.
Hogan looks worryingly average.
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I'm not a fan of booing but can understand why it happens. We've won 11 of our last 71 league games. Folks have spent a lot of time and money watching us during that time, patience isn't always going to be there.
That is pretty much my view on this, too.
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I'm not a fan of booing but can understand why it happens. We've won 11 of our last 71 league games. Folks have spent a lot of time and money watching us during that time, patience isn't always going to be there.
Yep, our form is wretched (again), we're not in the premier league any longer, in a league where there should be many more winnable games and yet we're on another terrible run despite spending millions on the squad (again).
I can understand why patience is wearing thin...it's not like there's booing at 0-0. It started at 0-2.
Completely different era but I always remember a game in one of the MON 6th seasons v Portsmouth. A game we dominated but Pompey scored two goals from 30 yards and won 3-1 and there were boos at half and full time.
That's when I don't get booing, not now.
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Someone's due a thrashin...
What's the point
We buy poorly
We choose managers poorly
2-6k a week go to away games
30-40k watch home games
We have great owner
Idiots like me sit and listen on the radio hoping
So many of our ex players are playing well elsewhere
Who was the last manager to go on to a better job?
The owner may be a part of the problem. Maybe he doesn't understand the game and thinks that money solves everything. All of this constant change will see Villa in League One.
Let the current players build an understanding and some confidence and things will improve. What happened to Jed Steer?
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Just seen a replay of the 'penalty' for the first time. Thought it was a really bad decision at the time. Seeing it again it borders on outrageous.
The only one in the ground who thought it was a penalty was the ref, only Barnsley player appealing was the fucker who slipped / dived. Never a penalty.
Hogan looks worryingly average.
Hogan and Kodija don't seem to enjoy playing together which is worrying. Kodija is too selfish and Hogan spent most of the match looking perplexed.
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IIRC at one stage Portsmouth had 3 goals and 2 shots.
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Just seen a replay of the 'penalty' for the first time. Thought it was a really bad decision at the time. Seeing it again it borders on outrageous.
The only one in the ground who thought it was a penalty was the ref, only Barnsley player appealing was the fucker who slipped / dived. Never a penalty.
Hogan looks worryingly average.
Hogan and Kodija don't seem to enjoy playing together which is worrying. Kodija is too selfish and Hogan spent most of the match looking perplexed.
Spot on. Feel for hogan that they seem to fancy lumping long balls up to his head
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Someone's due a thrashin...
What's the point
We buy poorly
We choose managers poorly
2-6k a week go to away games
30-40k watch home games
We have great owner
Idiots like me sit and listen on the radio hoping
So many of our ex players are playing well elsewhere
Who was the last manager to go on to a better job?
The owner may be a part of the problem. Maybe he doesn't understand the game and thinks that money solves everything. All of this constant change will see Villa in League One.
Let the current players build an understanding and some confidence and things will improve. What happened to Jed Steer?
So many of our ex youth team appear to be doing decent jobs (and our ex recruits too).
We smack a little bit of the New York Yankees out here. Too fat and rich to care at times
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Steer is out injured.
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I could never boo Aston Villa nor any of our players or managers.
But I understand why other fans have reached the point where they do.
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I could never boo Aston Villa nor any of our players or managers.
But I understand why other fans have reached the point where they do.
To stop myself booing I didn't go...
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I could never boo Aston Villa nor any of our players or managers.
But I understand why other fans have reached the point where they do.
To stop myself booing I didn't go...
I heard one bloke leaving in the 82nd minute opining that he was so disenchanted he couldn't be bothered to stay to boo.
The boo was very short lived on this occasion at the final whistle in my view a real FFS Villa which quickly descended into a low murmuring and shuffle for the exits with some light applause for those players who approached the Holte.
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I left after their third and didn't feel as though I was selling AV short by doing so.
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Just because you have a right to something does not mean it is the right thing to do.
Can't argue with that however it's the natural and only way fans can express their disappointment in an arena.