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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: VillaAlways on January 14, 2017, 04:42:18 PM
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442?
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4-4-2
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4411 I reckon. Ross behind fatso.
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4411 I reckon. Fatso behind fatso.
Fixed
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4411 I reckon. Ross behind fatso.
Fatty behind fatter.
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I'd worry if it is 4-4-2. Jedi struggles in a 2.
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Win please Villa.
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433?
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That will do.
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two fat lazies
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Sheffield winning has potentially opened up a 5 point gap between 6th and 7th. A defeat for us would mean 10 points to 6th. Need a win and some signing double quick.
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4411 I reckon. Ross behind fatso.
Fatty behind fatter.
There is very slim chance of winning with that line up.
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We go again
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Not a very good team is it? Thankfully we went down last season.
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I bet Lambert is amused that we're still stuck with Agbonlahor thanks to him.
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Could be various formations but hoping it's Adomah and Agbonlahor wide with Ross in the centre - need 3 in the middle behind them today.
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Captain anonymous upfront again...ye gods.
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Not a very good team is it? Thankfully we went down last season.
no pace,
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Gabby and Bacuna start and Grealish left on the bench. We're not giving ourselves a chance.
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Grealish has been a disappointment every time he's started recently. Might be more effective off the bench - hopefully anyway
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I agree with Jack being on the bench. I just don't agree with Gabriel starting. But who else is there.
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Grealish has been shit the last few.
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I agree with Jack being on the bench. I just don't agree with Gabriel starting. But who else is there.
RHM
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I agree with Jack being on the bench. I just don't agree with Gabriel starting. But who else is there.
RHM
Injured isn't he?
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Quite an uninspiring line-up, but then we have uninspiring players.
Oddly hard to think too much about the football today though.
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Well obviously but what can you do there...
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I agree with Jack being on the bench. I just don't agree with Gabriel starting. But who else is there.
RHM
Who's presently on the naughty step
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With Mr and Mrs Golightly up front, how can we possibly fail? Er, quite easily, actually.
Anyhow, never let 'fuck the fuckers' be unsaid.
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Decent side given the limited options upfront and the fact that SB has boxed himself in on the issue of RHM.
I hope Green, Grealish and Davis get more gametime than the subs normally seem to. Give 'em 20-25 minutes to make an impact against a Lambert side that's bound to tire.
Just donlt lose against him.
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Stunned he's picked Gabby yet again. How often does he need to see him to realise he contributes absolutely nothing for us?
Need RMC to be really involved today for us to have a chance of winning.
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10 points off the playoffs going into this?
Until we can put a winning run together we are not going to make any headway.
Really, REALLY need to get something today.
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RHM is injured. Posted on his Twitter after the U23 game the other day. So forget that option.
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RHM is injured. Posted on his Twitter after the U23 game the other day. So forget that option.
Ta. Was not aware.
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He wouldn't have played anyway.
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Good to see Tish getting the nod ahead of Westwood and Gardner, but shame we're having to rely on Flabby up top. Roll on Ivory Coast getting knocked out of the ACON so we can get Kodjia back.
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Any stream or link to audio?? Not on over here!!!! Grrrrrrr
thank you in advance and up the Mighty Villa Boys!!!!
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I know Gestede is pretty average at best, but to sell him without getting anyone in first seems very short sighted, as it leaves us with just Gab to use and i'd even prefer to have Gestede in over him.
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FFS. Gabby must have one incriminating pictures of somebody.
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I know Gestede is pretty average at best, but to sell him without getting anyone in first seems very short sighted, as it leaves us with just Gab to use and i'd even prefer to have Gestede in over him.
I long for the days of Grant Holt...
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Crickey, even with a win we're still seven points adrift.
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We simply have to play closer together. If there is a massive gap between the midfield and forwards as there has been in recent weeks it won't matter who is up front. The midfielders have to support the forwards. The forwards have to come back and ensure the gap isn't too large because chasing long balls won't work.
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I don't understand why people are shocked gabby is playing
McCormack really can't lead the line
We don't have anyone else except Davis
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Flabby is in there partly 'cos we don't have many options, and partly - I think - to close down the oppo back four ... he does do 'running around like a blue-arsed fly' okay, I suppose.
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Is Kozak dead then ? I don't get it, not even on the bench.
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I don't understand why people are shocked gabby is playing
McCormack really can't lead the line
We don't have anyone else except Davis
So why not Davis?
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I know Gestede is pretty average at best, but to sell him without getting anyone in first seems very short sighted, as it leaves us with just Gab to use and i'd even prefer to have Gestede in over him.
I long for the days of Grant Holt...
And Frank McAvennies brief Villa career.
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Crickey, even with a win we're still seven points adrift.
It's going to be tough and I'd be surprised if we make it
Would rather concentrate on building a genuinely good team to go up automatically next year. We're miles off premier league quality at the moment. If in doing so we can sneak in then great
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That's a mid table second division squad if I ever saw one.
Midfield four won't be out fought anyway but Bacuna left wing looks very negative. Piss all options mind and Jackie boy can have no complaints about being dropped. Then again McCormack has beyond awful lately but gets a recall next to his burger buddy.
ACN or not, 50m spent this summer and this is the best we can put out in a critical derby game
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No gardner or westwood, think we will win this.
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I don't understand why people are shocked gabby is playing
McCormack really can't lead the line
We don't have anyone else except Davis
So why not Davis?
Because he's completely unproven and I'm not sure he's meant to be THAT good? Happy to give him a chance off the bench but he's not even our best young striker
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Bruce has just confirmed it's 4-4-2.
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God Paul lambert looks about fifteen years younger doesn't he?
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SB confirms 442
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Lambert looks 20 years younger.
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Baker not playing?
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Yes it does look a poor team so I think we need to forget about play offs this season and concentrate on sorting the team and system for next season.
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Baker not playing?
You mean the Baker named in the team sheet for today?
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Any links to audio please lads??
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Anyone got the goods? Much appreciated!
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Baker not playing?
You mean the Baker named in the team sheet for today?
Ticker tape on sky showed Elphick.
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Crickey, even with a win we're still seven points adrift.
It's going to be tough and I'd be surprised if we make it
Would rather concentrate on building a genuinely good team to go up automatically next year. We're miles off premier league quality at the moment. If in doing so we can sneak in then great
The thing is its going to be harder next year:
The teams coming down will be stronger than us when we came down
they will have a shit load of parachute money than us
our parachute money will be less
Less gate revenue
Less commercial revenue
Our better players will be off
We start with 3 points tonight
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Like the idea of two up top, perhaps not those two together but options are very limited. Bacuna at left wing is a little bit shite, perhaps Amavi there with Cissokho at left back would be worth a try. Oh well let's get behind them, come on Villa FTF'S!
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Is Kozak dead then ? I don't get it, not even on the bench.
in footballing terms, yes.
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PM any suggestions for keeping in touch with the game, pls (in addition to being on here).
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Baker injured in the warm up ?
Fucking hell
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He is made of glass.
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PM any suggestions for keeping in touch with the game, pls (in addition to being on here).
Me too x
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Christ that's a shit bench, hope we are 3 up at half time because very little choice as far as game changers go there, jack excluded.
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Tony Daley looks young enough to get in the team.
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Elphick?
Ffs
No defenders at all on bench
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The old Norwich link appears to be fucked
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Ephick in for Baker. We cant do 4-4-2 then. Jedi-Elphick makes us very vulnerable if they got any kind of pace in the attack.
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That was nicely done
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Blimey, Brian Little has turned into Emperor Palpatine!
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Need to sign a CB for cover in this window.
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Be really really surprised if we win this
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just logged in and Gabby starts! what the hell?
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Gabby has made a nice busy start
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Baker hamstring in training so looks like Elphick for a couple of games
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Jedinak - not sure I've ever seen a worse passer of the ball in our midfield
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Tish already gives us more presence in midfield than Westwood and Gardner put together.
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Press is better here.
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Tish already gives us more presence in midfield than Westwood and Gardner put together.
Yep. It was really odd he was so ostracised. Does make you think Bruce didn't like his attitude or something
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Jedinak - not sure I've ever seen a worse passer of the ball in our midfield
Really??
I like the way he is always looking for the first-time pass - trouble is, the people around him are not always on his wavelength
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Amavi should be playing left mid in this formation, especially as we've got a right footer playing there today. Elphick started very well but I know I shouldn't speak too soon.
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Very much on the back foot here
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Hanging on - just
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Wolves move them ball around so much better than we do.
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Well, this is poor.
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Shit
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Pathetic
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Game over.
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We are just a bit shit these days arent we
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New goalie ffs
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We are fcuked.
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We look like we play football from 20 years ago.
So many other team look progressive compared to us.
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Fucking shit all over the place.
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Far too much space between midfield and attack.
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there's no threat up front, so it was just a matter of when they scored
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Getting cut to bloody ribbons by a fucking Lambert side!!
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Terrible goal to give away but it was coming.
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Absolute garbage from minute 1. Awful.
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We look like we play football from 20 years ago.
So many other team look progressive compared to us.
We play football?
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An absolute fucking shambles in the build up to that.
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We look piss poor down the left, and that's game over now, I mean there's fuck all chance of us scoring.
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That was predictable.
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Someone needs to get their foot on it and slow the friggin' game down.
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Bollocks.
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Christ, I hope this is our bad half!
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awful goalkeeping but its been coming, predictably rancid from the Villa so far
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Shit so far
And there it is
No way we'll get two so let's hope we can equalise at least
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Gabby has made a nice busy start
Please tell me that was you being sarcastic
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Just don't understand why the club are so complacent....look at our bench ffs.
Look how far we're going to be off the play offs if we lose...
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Our centre 3 letting the wolves midfield walk on by ... too easy, too slow.
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My optimism meter is practically at zero yet again.
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Awful, really awful and that's probably game over. What the fuck was Johnstone doing.
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Gollini anyone?
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Bollocks! Fuck! Wank!
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All looks very last ditch, long ball from us.
A Paul Lambert team looking much sharper and menacing than us. Deary me.
And there it is. We aren't a very good team under Bruce. At all.
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If Amavi isn't going to take the free kick why waste a man standing there??
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long way to go, I'm not giving up hope just yet
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I can't even find a bloody stream today. WTF.
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Add this one to; leeds, Norwich, Blose and Cardiff etc
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We'll piss this league.........next year.
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There is no way this lot are getting into the playoff's I can't believe how much money we have pissed away and we're still bloody dreadful.
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When is someone going to sort this team out? We've been in transition for seven years now.
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I can't even find a bloody stream today. WTF.
Lucky you
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I wonder what level we have to drop to before we can start to look even remotely convincing on a regular basis?
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But as always, when the poll gets put up for next match, the majority will still have us down for a win. I wish I could see what others see in us at the moment. Frankly we never look like scoring!!
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I can't even find a bloody stream today. WTF.
If you're using an Android phone mate, the app Mobdro is pretty good.
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Wolves seem to be targeting Amavi.
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wtf no card?
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Has there been a fatter forward line in recent history? We are chuffing awful.
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We just carry absolutely no threat.
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And for the first time Im not convinced Bruce is the answer. He hasnt improved us one iota
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I can't even find a bloody stream today. WTF.
PM sent
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Why would the chairman waste any more money this season.
There is no point bringing anyone in for a meaningless run in to the end of this season.
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Anyone who still thinks we can make the playoffs is deluded we will struggle to make top ten
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I'm convinced we are cursed. We have an owner spending millions and have a manager who has become somewhat of an expert at promotions and we are still just massively shit. Maybe Lambert was right about seeing Lerner's ghost and he is still haunting the place.
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Please someone explain what is the point of Amavi?
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I know we need new players but it doesn't look like we have an established shape or pattern of play at all does it?
Passing so bad
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ffs Amavi
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Wolves seem to be targeting Amavi.
And why wouldn't you?
He has been very poor for weeks.
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Anyone who still thinks we can make the playoffs is deluded we will struggle to make top ten
I gave up after the pathetic display at Cardiff
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gbp50M spent - where?
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What on earth do people see in Amavi?
He's fucking terrible. If he was a Scottish skinhead he'd be getting slaughtered.
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I can't even find a bloody stream today. WTF.
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Me too please and thank you :)
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We just haven't got good enough players.
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Need a left back desperately
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We look utterly hopeless at the minute. No threat up front at all.
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Our centre 3 letting the wolves midfield walk on by ... too easy, too slow.
I think the problem is that we're not playing a central three isn't it?
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Anyone who still thinks we can make the playoffs is deluded we will struggle to make top ten
I gave up after the pathetic display at Cardiff
Leeds away me
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What is that shit slow song everyone is now singing?
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Hutton our best player so far. Says it all. Just long ball.
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God we're just pumping it long aren't we?
Utter gash
How many of Bruce's performances have actually been good? Brighton away?
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Hutton our best player so far. Says it all. Just long ball.
I have toagree
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The BBC sport reporting on the game has this: Villa have a playmaker in Jack Grealish and the calming influence of Ashley Westwood on the bench
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We look utterly hopeless at the minute. No threat up front at all.
Not sure why anyone is shocked....McCormack just looks a player who won't work out for us...I've seen nothing from him to suggest he's going to score 20 like at Fulham.
Gabby is Gabby.
Bacuna I think has been o.k this season but he's a long way from being top quality even in this league.
We miss Kodjia's unpredictability up there.
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God we're just pumping it long aren't we?
Utter gash
How many of Bruce's performances have actually been good? Brighton away?
And the Reading game.
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fuckin sitter, McCormack.
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Superb from amavi, wank from fat boy
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Should have scored. Great run and ball in by Amavi
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McCormack should've buried that.
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We look utterly hopeless at the minute. No threat up front at all.
Not sure why anyone is shocked....McCormack just looks a player who won't work out for us...I've seen nothing from him to suggest he's going to score 20 like at Fulham.
Gabby is Gabby.
Bacuna I think has been o.k this season but he's a long way from being top quality even in this league.
We miss Kodjia's unpredictability up there.
And Amavi? You always stand up for him.
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Fuck off McCormack
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Shit. Again. Off out for a meal. Not expecting a goal.
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Got to score that.
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Should have fuckin scored there!
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That reason right there is why I and others like Amavi.
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How the f*** did he miss that
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Fat fucking twat. Fuck off
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hows he miss that
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What on earth do people see in Amavi?
He's fucking terrible. If he was a Scottish skinhead he'd be getting slaughtered.
I think that run and cross answers it for you.
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Fattie #2 just can't get his lardy arse high enough off the ground for an easy nod in.
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A quality cross. We don't do many of those.
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Anyone else starting to think Bruce is useless?
I know players are shit but lack of shape and constant line up changes a day shit football raise my concerns.
Especially as the shit performances are not in isoltation
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We look utterly hopeless at the minute. No threat up front at all.
Not sure why anyone is shocked....McCormack just looks a player who won't work out for us...I've seen nothing from him to suggest he's going to score 20 like at Fulham.
Gabby is Gabby.
Bacuna I think has been o.k this season but he's a long way from being top quality even in this league.
We miss Kodjia's unpredictability up there.
And Amavi? You always stand up for him.
He's a good player going through poor form....France under 21s still call him up.
Still rather have him than Cissokho giving away a penalty a game.
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Really good Amavi, rubbish Ross.
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Need a left back desperately
to be fair he showed outstanding quality there going forward for that chance, sitter missed cheers McCormack
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This is as bad a half as I have seen from us all season. Mind you I didn't see Preston or Cardiff.
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The BBC sport reporting on the game has this: Villa have a playmaker in Jack Grealish and the calming influence of Ashley Westwood on the bench
So calm he does fuck all. Can't stand the sight of hom. Pure shit stealing a loving.
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Great cross from Amavi though. Still time to get something from this game.
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What on earth do people see in Amavi?
He's fucking terrible. If he was a Scottish skinhead he'd be getting slaughtered.
I think that run and cross answers it for you.
Needs to do it more than once per season though.
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Hutton our best player so far. Says it all. Just long ball.
They are targetting him for his attacking prowess
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If Ross is the two stone lighter like he should be then he probably scores that.
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Where's the friggin yellow card, ref?!
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Let's be honest, unless you use the match as the centre piece of a wider day's entertainment (away trips, pub visits before and after, chance to catch up with mates), as a leisure pursuit, I reckon Villa have done enough to make us happy on about 5 occasions in the last 5 years.
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What on earth do people see in Amavi?
He's fucking terrible. If he was a Scottish skinhead he'd be getting slaughtered.
I don't think Hutton's ever won the ball, ran half the length of the pitch, beaten two more players and put a dangerous cross in, all inside ten seconds.
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Terrible pass Jedinak
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The move from avami shows EXACTLY what we don't do.
Play at pace and move the ball quickly.
Tippy tippy, whack is fucking shit.
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Fuck me, Jedinak, who was that even meant for?
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I repeat, Amavi should be playing left midfield in this formation, but as for dross McCorm cack, words fail me.
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What on earth do people see in Amavi?
He's fucking terrible. If he was a Scottish skinhead he'd be getting slaughtered.
I don't think Hutton's ever won the ball, ran half the length of the pitch, beaten two more players and put a dangerous cross in, all inside ten seconds.
Amavi hardly does it on a regular basis either
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I honestly think I'm a better passer of a ball than Jedinak
I mean that wasn't under pressure and I haven't got a fucking clue who he was passing to
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As soon as someone realises Amavi is a left winger and not a full back tbe better
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We just carry absolutely no threat.
Business as usual then.
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Anyone else starting to think Bruce is useless?
I know players are shit but lack of shape and constant line up changes a day shit football raise my concerns.
Especially as the shit performances are not in isoltation
It's for the SB thread but is his football really that far off what MON got us playing....it sounds bizarre but think about it.....we had quality players back then who could execute the game plan when we hit it early for Gabby to run onto and start counter attacks.
For all the money we've spent we have far too many mediocre and luxury players...we need ones in their prime in their division like Lansbury and Hourihane so please get them in next week for Preston as that will be another very tough game.
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What on earth do people see in Amavi?
He's fucking terrible. If he was a Scottish skinhead he'd be getting slaughtered.
I don't think Hutton's ever won the ball, ran half the length of the pitch, beaten two more players and put a dangerous cross in, all inside ten seconds.
You had towait until nearly 30 mins in to be able to pick anything good from Amavi tonight
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what do they actually do at Bodymoor from Mon - Fri? It aint fitness work looking at our front two and neither is it tactics
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I don't think we will lose this match
I think we are rubbish, I think the managers rubbish, but I still think we will get something out of this game
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Bit better in the last five minutes. McCormack's chance was a sitter and he should have scored.
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Bossing game now.
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I can't even find a bloody stream today. WTF.
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Is it possible to send to me as well ? thanks in advance !
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Besides Kodjia and Chester, we were sold some pretty shit players in the summer, weren't we.
Enough of this nonsense. Time for bed. Bruce and his fucking anti football, having the audacity to play that fat shit up front.
About time some of our players started earning their wages-abysmal.
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What on earth do people see in Amavi?
He's fucking terrible. If he was a Scottish skinhead he'd be getting slaughtered.
I don't think Hutton's ever won the ball, ran half the length of the pitch, beaten two more players and put a dangerous cross in, all inside ten seconds.
You had towait until nearly 30 mins in to be able to pick anything good from Amavi tonight
The going forward bit, that I like.
It's the defending part. It's awful.
And just to be clear, Hutton is even worse.
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We will boss the game as we are doing until we don't score and they do again.
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I'm just praying Amavi is about to become Gareth Bale, because he is struggling as a defender.
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Dicko is getting in behind a lot
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Was that the first time Flabby has touched the ball?
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What on earth do people see in Amavi?
He's fucking terrible. If he was a Scottish skinhead he'd be getting slaughtered.
I don't think Hutton's ever won the ball, ran half the length of the pitch, beaten two more players and put a dangerous cross in, all inside ten seconds.
You had towait until nearly 30 mins in to be able to pick anything good from Amavi tonight
The going forward bit, that I like.
It's the defending part. It's awful.
And just to be clear, Hutton is even worse.
How many left backs can really defend nowadays though going forward...the emphasis is very much on going forward.
People raving about Van Anholt at Sunderland....he's even more hopeless at defending than Amavi.
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Fucking Hutton...I really fucking despair
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Fucking Hutton...I really fucking despair
He is utterly fucking shit. I have no idea how he has maintained a career as a professional footballer.
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Still shit at throw ins I see
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The move from avami shows EXACTLY what we don't do.
Play at pace and move the ball quickly.
Tippy tippy, whack is fucking shit.
Exactly the probolem, if we play to the strengths of our players and actually work on things in training we'd see Amavi do that a lot more often and we'd actually create a decent number of chances.
This is why I've been so hard on Bruce because I just see no attempt to make the players we have into an attacking unit and good form from Kodjia was masking just how little effect he was having on us going forward. Yes the defence is a little better but not good enough that we can rely on clean sheets and it's not worth the cost for me.
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This is just terrible. We are in fact, how we are playing, a mid table, going nowhere Championship club.
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What on earth do people see in Amavi?
He's fucking terrible. If he was a Scottish skinhead he'd be getting slaughtered.
I don't think Hutton's ever won the ball, ran half the length of the pitch, beaten two more players and put a dangerous cross in, all inside ten seconds.
You had towait until nearly 30 mins in to be able to pick anything good from Amavi tonight
Better than waiting five years, like in Hutton's case.
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McCormack's decision to retire from football is surely premature given that the next production of Mother Goose is at least ten months away.
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Fucking Hutton...I really fucking despair
The worst full back at this club by a million miles.
We will never have any decent success while he's on our teamsheet.
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Aaron Tishbola is absolutely awful - he takes a week to pass the ball and plays with zero tempo what is wrong with him. He can join gardner and westwood on the get rid list a total joke.
Adomah is simply coasting through the game.
McCormack should be holding his cock after that miss - total an utter joker
What is wrong with these players do they actually give a toss.
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Agbonlahor you useless sack of shit.
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I can't even find a bloody stream today. WTF.
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You utter, utter b*****d!!! :)
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Agbonlahor....jeez
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gabby's touch there, yikes
in fairness, we have dominated since conceding
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gabby traps it further than i can hit it
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Aaron Tishbola is absolutely awful - he takes a week to pass the ball and plays with zero tempo what is wrong with him. He can join gardner and westwood on the get rid list a total joke.
Adomah is simply coasting through the game.
McCormack should be holding his cock after that miss - total an utter joker
What is wrong with these players do they actually give a toss.
I think Tshibola is playing ok.
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This is just terrible. We are in fact, how we are playing, a mid table, going nowhere Championship club.
We should build a proper side for next season. That means replacing Jedinak. Playing RHM ahead of gabby. And trying to do some effing coaching
Touch gabby lad
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McCormack you fat wank.
You started in an offside position and made no effort to get onside.
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Lazy by McCormack - should have got himself onside
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Hutton at least tries yes he is crap but he tries more than some of the other jokers who simply are so thick between the ears and just hide when the chips are down
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Your belly was playing you offside, you fat fuck.
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I can't even find a bloody stream today. WTF.
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You utter, utter b*****d!!! :)
Welp, if i gotta suffer it I dont see why I should do it alone ;)
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gabby's touch there, yikes
in fairness, we have dominated since conceding
Not sure what he was smiling at, the gormless grinning bastard.
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Here we go.
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It's all well and good criticizing Bruce but how do you create an attacking team with no midfield. I can totally understand moans about gabby but are people really suggesting we get a new manager again?
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I agree Tish is doing ok
McCormack too miss apart. Good movement
Gabby not so much
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AEV - watch how long it takes him to pass the ball. He needs a week - he kills any tempo we have
He is so slow on the ball
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I don't think McCormack is very good at football.
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For fcuk sake we are just so bastard pedestrian.
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Fucking hell Elphick
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Adomah hould have done miles better these.
Looks very half soaked
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If one more commentator utters the Phrase "Agbonlahor has certainly worked hard getting back to fitness".
Well I don't know what ill actually do but its an annoying and pathetic comment.
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I don't think McCormack is very good at football.
Amazing to think he's scored about 80 goals at this level!
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Our midfield is dreadful.
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Why didn't Adomah dink it over the keeper there?!
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Gabby's attempts to control the ball are ridiculous
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I reckon an exhumed Boon aka Michael Elphick would be better than our version.
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If one more commentator utters the Phrase "Agbonlahor has certainly worked hard getting back to fitness".
Well I don't know what ill actually do but its an annoying and pathetic comment.
It amazes me that none of them think to question just why he needed to get back to fitness.
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The day we get a lucky deflection, own goal or goalkeeper error in our favour - the day we move forward.
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After very careful consideration I have come to the conclusion that Ross McCormac is shite
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Great ball from Bacuna.
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AEV - watch how long it takes him to pass the ball. He needs a week - he kills any tempo we have
He is so slow on the ball
I think he gets his head up and tries to do something positive. We never have any movement so inevitably it takes time.
All about opinions...
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Lazy from Adomah, should have done a lot better with that chip.
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Well said Andy H - he is infuriating. He doesn't seem to give a shit
Where is the desire and bravery. Gutless idiot
Another total joke signing from RDM
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My 7 old year daughter just said they need to move around more in front of goal.
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We're never scoring here.
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At least the last twenty minutes we have improved - a little more hope
But why does it take us to go behind to actually try
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If one more commentator utters the Phrase "Agbonlahor has certainly worked hard getting back to fitness".
Well I don't know what ill actually do but its an annoying and pathetic comment.
Agreed. I was thinking exactly the same...like he should be applauded.
Our front two would not look out of place if they turned out for the Lad in the Lane tomorrow morning!
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Why didn't Adomah dink it over the keeper there?!
showed no composure at all, keeper made it easy enough for him too
playing well enough though, Tshibola and Bacuna getting on the ball a lot and McCormack at least dropping off pretty well to get on the ball
Gabby offering zero and Elphick looks as if his boots are filled with concrete
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Our midfield is dreadful.
This should be our new club motto. Maybe in Latin.
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We're just bobbins away and getting worse.
Had two early good results on the road under SB at Reading and Brighton but since then it's been a car crash in terms of performance at Leeds, Cardiff and and Norwich and increasingly looking like today will follow the same trend.
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Tshibloa looks fucked..
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I'd rather stick one of the kids up front instead of Agbonlahor.
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Pretty poor first half, yet again. Should be 1-1 though. McCormack hang your head in shame.
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There is zero creativity in this side, zero.
Unless he changes this at half time, we won't score if we play till midnight.
Fuck it, I've seen enough. I'm going to enjoy a bit of saturday night instead.
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Ghastly.
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Pity we never got going for the first 20 minutes, if we had a decent midfield the forwards would be more of a threat.
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Our midfield is dreadful.
This should be our new club motto. Maybe in Latin.
Centrum Campus Cunting Cackum
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I'd rather stick one of the kids up front instead of Agbonlahor.
Yep. At least it would be interesting to see what they can do. We all know what Agbonlahor can('t) do.
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Shite. We've got no chance playing like this.
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Is this Davis bloke a forward?
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There is zero creativity in this side, zero.
Unless he changes this at half time, we won't score if we play till midnight.
Fuck it, I've seen enough. I'm going to enjoy a bit of saturday night instead.
Agreed there's no chance of us scoring unless something major changes. Fucking rubbish.
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Our midfield is dreadful.
This should be our new club motto. Maybe in Latin.
horribile aequor nostrum spectat,
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"A great game" that commentator has just said. I must be watching something completely different.
The front two are pathetic. The fact that Bruce persists with Gabby worries me immensely. He offers nothing. He's offered nothing for fucking years. Yet he's still playing.
Don't see how we get back into this.
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We just look weak everywhere, second to the ball, weak in possession, sloppy passing and defending, and apart from the McCormack chance we've yet again created nothing really. Let's face it we're an average Championship side, and if we don't considerably strengthen this January we could be in this for longer than we thought. Terrible.
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We could have the greatest midfield in the world and gabby would still be a useless fat fuck
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Did Davis touch the ball when he came on last week?
Tough opposition but I think it's a big ask to demand he rescues the game.
Jack on at half time is the safe sub and obvious one.
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Bring on Grealish second half.
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We have got a bit better
But gabby's touch is so bad he's just a nuisance
The structure of our play is so bad you have to ask questions about the coaching. There's just no pattern. It all looks off the hoof
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Dire
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Bring on Grealish second half.
This.
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Get Davis and Green on.
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Mid table dross from us. Nowhere near good enough
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Yep, Grealish for me too, need someone you can retain the ball. I worry about our slow build up though
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We've been poor. Lambert has been there less time than Bruce has been with us, but - and I don't like saying it - they played much neater, watchable football than us. The only times we looked decent was when Mccormack dropped deeper to create a link with midfield. We won't get better until we have the players. That said, I live in hope. We still had two decent chances. Come on Villa.
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Think is needs Grealish for Bacuna or Albert. We have little invention and Wolves look like hitting us every time we give the ball away. Only positive is the score. It could've been 2 or 3. Hopefully, we can come out a different proposition.
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Our midfield is dreadful.
This should be our new club motto. Maybe in Latin.
Centrum Campus Cunting Cackum
Barba tenus sapientes
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Each time we leave the massive comfort zones known as Villa Park and Bodymoor Heath, it all falls apart.
Our only hope of scoring here is if Jack comes on in the second half and gets us a penalty. Otherwise, I'd back a passing sparrow to head one in mid-flight over any of our comfort-loving rabble.
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I assume it's microphone positioning as all I can hear are the Wolves fans.
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Grealish for bacuna please
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Our bad away days continue we really need to improve in the second half I would get Jack on.
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Yep, Grealish for me too, need someone you can retain the ball. I worry about our slow build up though
[/quoteExactly, Grealish, for all his pluses, isnt going to inject energy into our attacks.
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At least the last twenty minutes we have improved - a little more hope
But why does it take us to go behind to actually try
Yeah, better side in the last twenty of that half, but still very little in the way of creativity. Elphick looks a liability at the back so we look vulnerable. McCormack off and Grealish on for me.
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Yes, Jedinak and Tshibola are better than Gardner and Westwood but not that much better, and still nowhere near good enough. Trouble is, the front 2 look piss poor as well, Elphick for Baker weakens us, Bacuna is out of position and half arsed, Amavi is wasted trying to defend rather than probing inside the opposition half and Adomah lacks the quality for a promotion side. Chesters good though.
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Our bad away days continue we really need to improve in the second half I would get Jack on.
Looking at the subs that's just about the only realistic option in our position.
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McCormack and Agbonlahor both look like ex players waddling about at a charity match.
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That was poor! Major effort required in the transfer window. We seem to be getting worse as every week goes by. We need a replacement centre half for Elphick, who just looks shite and Baker who is injury prone. We might as well not bother with midfield. Jedinak is garbage, Tishbola looks poor and as for our forward line: Crap. Gabby is past it, and McCormack looks like a Sunday league player. Sort it out Bruce!
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Sorry, but we have not acted quickly enough in this window especially with Kodjia and Ayew away. I'm disappointed and this is what I expected with lack of reinforcements nearly half way through January.
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oh no, they've only gone and come out for the second half
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Yes, Jedinak and Tshibola are better than Gardner and Westwood but not that much better, and still nowhere near good enough. Trouble is, the front 2 look piss poor as well, Elphick for Baker weakens us, Bacuna is out of position and half arsed, Amavi is wasted trying to defend rather than probing inside the opposition half and Adomah lacks the quality for a promotion side. Chesters good though.
The midfield is just horrible. This must be the worst era for Villa midfields ever. I can't remember there ever being a time in my lifetime we've continually had a shit midfield for 6 or 7 years on the trot. It's ridiculous.
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I find it ironic that the first time a left back has burst forward and crossed the ball since September 2015, Rudy Gestede is in Watford boarding the team bus.
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Sorry, but we have not acted quickly enough in this window especially with Kodjia and Ayew away. I'm disappointed and this is what I expected with lack of reinforcements nearly half way through January.
I agree. Very disappointed, yet again from Villa.
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Lazy from Adomah, should have done a lot better with that chip.
shouldnt have tried to chip it, their keeper had lost his bearings. just needed to pass it by him
options are limited on the bench, Grealish for Adamoah maybe, 4312
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I might be off the mark but I have a theory that if they don't win here, we are near as done for in the play off race. They might decide not to strengthen until the summer in that case.
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No subs yet.
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Good start
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Elphick looks a liability at the back so we look vulnerable.
Yes, unfortunately he's incredibly unconvincing - he doesn't give me any confidence at all. His positioning isn't great, and he keeps doing the same backing-off like he has done in previous games. When his clearance rebounded back towards goal he just looked on as Johnstone and Chester dealt with it. I would have expected him to be looking for a spare man, or trying to get back onto the line.
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Great start to second half that is.
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Our only hope. Them being down to ten men for a few minutes.
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Arms out, in front of goal? I thought that was a handball ...
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Why isn't that a yellow??
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some of them can bearly control the ball, so there is never any forward momentum
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Adomah doesn't do enough for me, just runs into brick walls and loses the ball.
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For fcuk sake Hutton.
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Ref not booked 2 of theirs now for challenges that should have been.
I would love to see us actually play well.
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I feel like I've watched this game ten times this season. We lose 1-0.
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Some good effort to get the ball forward but it's like peeing in the wind when we have Gabby and McCormack there.
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Get Bacuna off for Grealish.
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Ref not booked 2 of theirs now for challenges that should have been.
I would love to see us actually play well.
when was the last time we actually put together a really good performance? I'm genuinely struggling to remember. There have been patches in the games we've won but even in those we looked very poor at times. I'm thinking Rotherham at home? Fucking Rotherham.
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Same old, same old, just in a lower division.
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£50m spent only QPR scored less than us.
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Just heard our lot singing 'Villa...' so it's not the microphones. I think we're having a 40-minute silence.
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Christ almighty this is dire.
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We are mediocre, at very best, from 1 to 11. Dog shit v Horse shit.
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No pace from McCormack.
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How embarrassing to get beaten in a race by Richard Fcukin Stearman.
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I'm drinking Champagne. Nothing to do with the game. Just fancied a bit of fizz.
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Really look like a side who knows it has no chance. Disjointed and clueless.
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Should have been 2
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Amavi shit out of that like a fucking wuss
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McCormack outpaced shock.
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We really are going to get embarrassingly humped here.
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I'm drinking Champagne. Nothing to do with the game. Just fancied a bit of fizz.
That reminds me - it's 10 minutes past G&T o'clock
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I feel sorry for Chester. Having to bail us out time and again.
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Amavi showing his liabilitienes there again.
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Fuck sake, Bruce, make a change.
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McCormack outpaced shock.
The fat little bastard.
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Comedic defending there, both centre halves done by Dicko moving.
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I feel sorry for Chester. Having to bail us out time and again.
Only Top Tier player we have
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I'm drinking Champagne. Nothing to do with the game. Just fancied a bit of fizz.
That reminds me - it's 10 minutes past G&T o'clock
Dry January is a real pisser.
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Celebrity Pointless , is starting to look like a better use of time!
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Fuck sake, Bruce, make a change.
Your prayers are answered.
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Make a fucking change. Can't you see it's not working.
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Utter wank
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Jedinak has been useless.
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Get bloody Green on for Bacuna!
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What the hell
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Harsh on Tish.
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Tish has done ok. We now have no midfield.
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I feel sorry for Chester. Having to bail us out time and again.
Only Top Tier player we have
By far out best player this season. We've been robbed with most of our other signings.
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Jedinak is useless at times.
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It's a Lambert formation.
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Shit ball from Adomah into Hutton.
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I'm sorry to say that Steve Bruce is looking increasingly clueless.
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This is going to finish 2 nil
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It's got to the point where we look out of our depth at this level. That we are one of those plodding along Championship sides that will stay at this level for many years to come. At least that's how it feels right now.
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How do the poor bastards who pay for this week in week out stomach it.
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What's the score?
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Jedinak has been useless.
Since he arrived.
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I'm sorry to say that Steve Bruce is looking increasingly clueless.
What complete bollocks
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Jedinak has been useless.
Agreed, he can be a substitute once we've got some new midfielders. McCormack on the other hand can be a £12m footstool.
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Fucking hell Grealish! You should have your fucking collar and button choices sorted before you get on the pitch. Fucking amateurish!
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This is going to finish 2 nil
Nailed on
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When was the last time we showed a bit of imagination? Just wandering..
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How many away games without scoring?
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I'm sorry to say that Steve Bruce is looking increasingly clueless.
Sad, but true. Losing to fucking mumbles.
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Tshibola off?? Stupid decision! Gabby should be off, he's done nothing.
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I'm sorry to say that Steve Bruce is looking increasingly clueless.
What complete bollocks
How has he improved us?
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Jedinak has been useless.
Since he arrived.
I thought he was looking better at one stage but Christ he's become awful. His passing and control is dreadful. The only thing he's decent at his heading the ball.
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Yet again Adomah's control of the ball is woeful.
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Is it in Grealish's contract not to contest headers?
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Get bloody Green on for Bacuna!
Exactly. Why delay?
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What a shambles we are.
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Shots on target: none
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I'm sorry to say that Steve Bruce is looking increasingly clueless.
What complete bollocks
How has he improved us?
Course he has - with someone else's players and 5 years of utter shit. He ain't Jesus
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Where's Green? I thought he was coming on.
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when they get in the final third, they have no idea what to do
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Adomah has been awful.
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We stomach it because we're Villa Fans it's what we do..
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The thing is yet another game where the opposition look bang average. Yet we conspire to look totally fcukin useless and make them look like world beaters in the process. How many fcukin times have we got to put up with this bollocks.
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How do the poor bastards who pay for this week in week out stomach it.
Like my niece they start in Weatherspoons 7 hours before kick off
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Tshibola off?? Stupid decision! Gabby should be off, he's done nothing.
He was blowing out of his arse towards the end of the 1st half.
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when they get in the final third, they have no idea what to do
Width (or the lack of it) is a massive problem to us.
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And Flabby is still on the pitch, offering nothing besides a passable imitation of the Road Runner
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Fucking hell Amavi.
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Yeah let's sack Steve Bruce and search for our 345th manager in 2 years
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Adomah has been awful.
Thought it was just me who didn't get him. Never liked him since day one.
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Amavi!! - what a shocking pass; should have released the kid early.
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Come the summer Dr Tony will be wielding his axe
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It's like watching a Butlins Beaver Club XI play a combined Redcoats/Dads XI on a Sunday after afternoon closing.
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Yeah let's sack Steve Bruce and search for our 345th manager in 2 years
Nobody has suggested that you arse.
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I'm sorry to say that Steve Bruce is looking increasingly clueless.
What complete bollocks
How has he improved us?
Course he has - with someone else's players and 5 years of utter shit. He ain't Jesus
No Jesus it as Leeds with someone else's players and 10 years of utter shit. We've got Brian.
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Why is it for the past 2 seasons the only Villa player that actually gets the ball and has chance to do something with it is Alan Hutton.....the worst possible player you could pick to be in that situation.
It's like some cruel joke.
Agbonlahor NO NO NO.
Why sell Gestede knowing Kodjia is gone for a while without having a front man in first.
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£25m for Amavi.
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Why the fuck sell Gestede so early in the month. We literally have no presence up front at all.
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Come the summer Dr Tony will be wielding his axe
Yeah what a great idea that is, because that tactic has worked so well
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£25m for Amavi.
Yes please, where do we sign and drop him off?
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Yeah let's sack Steve Bruce and search for our 345th manager in 2 years
Nobody has suggested that you arse.
Leave the insults in the playground yeah
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It's totally pointless giving Hutton the ball.
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It's true, Amavi can cross the ball occasionally, but when he isn't doing that he's a liability and every team we play seems to know it.
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Horrible, just horrible.
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Why the fuck sell Gestede so early in the month. We literally have no presence up front at all.
Ridiculous to sell him so early in the month when we could have done with him. Especially when every other club seems to be playing hard ball with our targets.
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Oh for even a shot on target, or to be in possession in an area for a shot on target, or to have some control in midfield, the mearest suggestion that they are professional footballers would be an improvement.
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Why the fuck sell Gestede so early in the month. We literally have no presence up front at all.
Steve Round should answer that. Mind boggling.
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We have so many fucking wimps or can't or won't tackle.
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Feck me our set pieces have been absolutely woeful.
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McCormack is a total waste of money.
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Come the summer Dr Tony will be wielding his axe
Yeah what a great idea that is, because that tactic has worked so well
I didnt say I wanted it to happen its what the Dr will do if we dont drastically improve. I doubt he is a patient man
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I don't want it to, but things are going to get ugly for Bruce before too much longer.
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72 minutes applause for SGT. Seem to have a speck of dust in my eye
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It's true, Amavi can cross the ball occasionally, but when he isn't doing that he's a liability and every team we play seems to know it.
Exactly right
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Fuck off Bacuna just fuck off.
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Clueless.. five minute curse doesn't apply. Has grealish been on the gas again?
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Graham Taylor's claret and blue army!
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Horrible, just horrible.
Isn't it just.
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Fuck me he took off Tish and left Bacuna on.
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Bacuna is an atrocious excuse for a footballer.
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they need so much time to get the ball under control and then seem surprised to see a wolves player on top of them
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Why the fuck sell Gestede so early in the month. We literally have no presence up front at all.
Ridiculous to sell him so early in the month when we could have done with him. Especially when every other club seems to be playing hard ball with our targets.
Clue less decision
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Bacuna is an atrocious excuse for a footballer.
Isn't he just. How the hell is this waste of space still at the Villa?
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Utter sodding garbage.
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Oh for even a shot on target,
let's not ask too much of them, start with a shot even if off target and build from there
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is bacuna a footballer?
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McCormack is a total waste of money.
See also Elphick.
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We are not going to score.
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Lambert will dine out on this result for years.
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We are now very clearly an ordinary Championship team.
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We have no chance of making the playoffs
Shocking performance. We will never score
with Fatty & fatter up front. We need another
forward Dr Tony.
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Lambert will lap this up. He looks so healthy these days
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This is like having your backside widened by a big thing and having a hungry leopard let loose up it. I imagine.
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We literally cannot pass a ball three yards to a team mate.
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Bacuna is an atrocious excuse for a footballer.
Isn't he just. How the hell is this waste of space still at the Villa?
Same reason all of the atrocious non-footballers like Westwood are. Who else would want them?
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McCormack is a total waste of money.
See also Elphick.
In the cold light of day as a 3m reserve from Bournemouth he's probably performed to ability....e.g he's not very good.
Edit: With McCormack I really did think he just picked him out of a list of regular championship goalscorers and just assumed he'd do the same here without thinking how on earth he'd fit into the system.
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Hutton's pass then was dreadful
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DO THEY NOT PASS THE FUCKING BALL IN TRAINING?!?
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Lambert will lap this up. He looks so healthy these days
I'm not surprised after the nice pay-off we gave him.
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Absolutely no shape to us what-so-ever. Pointless.
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I have literally never heard of over half of the Wolves team and they are comfortably shitting on us.
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Has Lambert forgotten his glasses. He seems to be blinking a lot
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My first vocal expletive of the game for that, I think I've done very well to last.
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We are down to the bare bones here. This transfer window is massive for us.
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Please remove Jack from the pitch.
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I'd take a draw now.
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Why not give the lad 15 minutes? Not 4 at the end.
At least Gabby has worked hard.
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We are down to the bare bones here. This transfer window is massive for us.
I wouldn't waste a penny on a run in that means nothing.
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Great ball from Green, but only two players in the box. It's the 89th minute and we are losing. FFS.
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Shit, shit, everywhere, and all the players stink. Shit, shit, everywhere, we're fucking shit, I think.
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Please remove Jack from the pitch.
What?
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McCormack is just a fat waste of fucking space.
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Just dreadful
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We are down to the bare bones here. This transfer window is massive for us.
I wouldn't waste a penny on a run in that means nothing.
Me neither. We shouldn't spend a penny this window. Need to put together a proper plan for next season including manager.
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Good god, we are so shit.
This is going to take years to put right.
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Heaven help us.. no wonder Lansbury is holding off.
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Good god, we are so shit.
This is going to take years to put right.
The rot is so fucking deep. No idea where its roots are and how to eradicate it.
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Remind me, have we had a fucking shot?
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Shit, shit, everywhere, and all the players stink. Shit, shit, everywhere, we're fucking shit, I think.
I don't think we are. Plenty of effort and most of the defending has been good.
What we lack is a couple of decent midfielders and a couple of strikers. The latter are in Africa; the former need to be acquired.
Yes, we could do with another right back and a CB but the priority is in midfield.
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Shit, shit, everywhere, and all the players stink. Shit, shit, everywhere, we're fucking shit, I think.
I think you're right, James.
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You have to say how low are we going to get? It might not be Bruce's team, but it's not Lamberts either.
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Shit, shit, everywhere, and all the players stink. Shit, shit, everywhere, we're fucking shit, I think.
I don't think we are. Plenty of effort and most of the defending has been good.
What we lack is a couple of decent midfielders and a couple of strikers. The latter are in Africa; the former need to be acquired.
Yes, we could do with another right back and a CB but the priority is in midfield.
Only QPR have less goals than us. We spent a fortune and are pathetic. Most of them bar Chester have been very poor.
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Shit, shit, everywhere, and all the players stink. Shit, shit, everywhere, we're fucking shit, I think.
Could catch on - just need a tune to go with it
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We easily dominated some of the last ten minutes.
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Good god, we are so shit.
This is going to take years to put right.
The rot is so fucking deep. No idea where its roots are and how to eradicate it.
Doing the basics right would be a bloody start. Useless, the lot of them.
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How our midfield has been left to rot for years is criminal and even now there's complacency....yeah let's target a midfielder of a club that is taking months to get a takeover...let's offer Barnsley a derisory bid for Hourihane.
Can we not get these deals done....we seemed to have little issue in the summer so bit bemused by what's going on currently tbh. We worked hard before xmas to get back in the mix for top 6 and it's now all going to waste which is really disappointing.
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Gary Thompson just said he was embarrassed by that performance. I have him about right. Abysmal.
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Our sales of players go through quickly and easily, our our purchases of players are chaotic.
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Gary Thompson just said he was embarrassed by that performance. I have him about right. Abysmal.
It's not the first time is it?
Norwich was really poor, Cardiff was little better.
I'll be more in shock when we actually dominate and play well away from home.