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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave on December 18, 2016, 01:58:33 PM
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Probably to be merged with one already started...
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Needed that, fair result.
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Get in. Ole ole ole ole
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I say! 3 points.
Agbonlahor. Fuck off!
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Fuckers fucked.
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have a Jolly Christmas
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So thats why were keeping hold of Rudi.
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Phew, Made harder work of it than we should be a win is a win!
Baker excellent, Ross garbage. Hutton did well, Bunn as well. We look better with Bacuna in the side. Awful subs though imo. We lost all momentum.
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Yay, we squeaked it against a terrible championship side and we're in 13th. Go us.
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Christ we needed that. Not a lot of quality at all, but it's nice to grudge out a win when we really needed to.
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A mixture of the terrible and the competent.
Fortunately that seems to be enough to win matches in this league.
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Just 2 words.
Thank fuck!
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Great stuff. Well done lads. Gabby ran around which wasnt too bad. Some fellas still not good enough. Jedinak without doubt tries the hardest and never stops running.
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Jedinak looked gutted handing the MOM over.
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Thank fuck for Kodjia
Yeah, he missed the pen, but he was ridiculously persistent and our only strategy was really to lob it in his general direction, and he made it work more often than not
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A win is a win, but that was garbage.
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I thought we were decent second half. Baker and kodjia the stand outs for me. Bunn was good.
Burton at home next. Great chance to get closer to the play offs
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Strange interview with Rudy translating for Kodjia. How long do you have to live in a country before learning the lingo? I forgive him though.
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Hello, Bunn between the sticks, certainly helped.
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A win is a win, but that was garbage.
We had half a dozen decent chances, I can't remember one for them.
The first half may have been garbage, but the overall performance wasn't.
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Bunn Bacuna Baker and Hutton good, Chester is a given, rest a mixed bag but win on Boxing Day and things look pretty good again. First win there since BFR first season!
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A mixture of the terrible and the competent.
Fortunately that seems to be enough to win matches in this league.
You don't need a lot of quality to win games. But you do need a bit of chemistry and we seem so disjointed most of the time. As much as Bruce has said he doesn't want to make wholesale changes he is going to get in a couple more in my opinion outside the 1 or 2 he's already seemingly nailed down. Westwood/Gardner offer very little. Jedinak needs help. A couple of solid midfielders would make the world of difference.
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Fuckers fucked.
;D 8)
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That will do nicely. Still annoyed that Flabby and Westwood got a game. Bacuna instead of Westwood in future please Mr Bruce, at least until we hopefully get an upgrade on both in January
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Probably the most complete centre forward display by a Villa man since Benteke.
Why on earth Bruce starts him on the left every game I don't know.
All of the back four were excellent today.
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Bacuna gives us that bit more energy and hard work. Don't like him left mid though.
Good to see kodjia playing better at centre forward again today. Would rather he played there
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Hardly convincing, but a much needed win. Positives were Chester and Baker looked a solid partnership again and Kodjia was a threat throughout. On the downside, we continually gave the ball away again. We've seen nearly half a season of him now and I think it is becoming clear that Gardner isn't good enough.
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If we manage to scrape promotion this season, we will be back down here again the following season with this lot.
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Anyone want to guess the last time we could enjoy Christmas having won the previous game?
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very relieved that we won to keep in touch with the play off places. We really need to beat Burton and Leeds at home.
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If we manage to scrape promotion this season, we will be back down here again the following season with this lot.
We wouldn't be picking all of "this lot" if we got promoted.
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Agree with the comments about Bunn - thought he did well today and, unlike Gollini, he wasn't surgically attached to his goal line - got out quickly a couple of times to snuff out danger.
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Great three points. Unforgivable substitutions.
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Get in! I knew it! Important win.
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In years to come, when Sir Gareth Mouthgate finally harnesses the awesome power of his Ingerlund DNA theory, they will replay this game to remind us how bad football used to be.
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Fair play to Bunn, that was as solid as I've seen him in a Villa shirt. A crucial win that could be the springboard for a great 2017.
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Never had any doubt😟
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Woeful game. Kodjia was the only difference between two utterly skidmark sides. No quality whatsoever. We've tried flair in this league, but it doesn't work (when you load too many in the same side). Ayew and Grealish come out the side but the result is we're far too ordinary in midfield, but thankfully a bit of spark from Kodjia was still enough to win the game.
Jedinak and the backline did well. They kept QPR (easily) at bay.
Still, we can't expect great quality in this division. We have to be a bit realistic. We'll probably look fairly decent at home in games, but most games we're going to look ordinary. We're going to be involved in shite games because there's just no quality in the division. It's tortuous to watch on the most part so results are paramount. With that in mind, I'm pleased today. But lets not start expecting to win in style. It's unlikely.
Gabby further proved how wrecked he is as a player. The effort is actually there but he's done for. No touch, no quality. He never had a brain. Get him out ASAP. It's too little too late. I honestly think he'd struggle in L2 he's that fucked as a player now.
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As ugly wins go, that was pig ugly. Three points though even if we still show very few signs of looking like a team.
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Anyone want to guess the last time we could enjoy Christmas having won the previous game?
2010 v the Baggies.
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Gabby further proved how wrecked he is as a player. The effort is actually there but he's done for. No touch, no quality. He never had a brain. Get him out ASAP. It's too little too late. I honestly think he'd struggle in L2 he's that fucked as a player now.
Why would we want him in The Holte?
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Anyone want to guess the last time we could enjoy Christmas having won the previous game?
I never enjoy Christmas though
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Deserved win but not a commanding performance. Good day for Bruce, those he brought in all played well and his tactical change to 442 after about 20 mins was crucial. Kodjia, missed peno aside was outstanding thereafter. Baker was particularly good at the back and Gardner had a solid game as a number 8 before tiring.
Gabby was a very unpopular sub but made a decent impact. Bringing on Gestede as a loan centre forward is never a good idea, then again he did have a great chance to make it 2-0. McCormack looked lost.
Still struggling to put away rank sides like QPR but an important three points.
Bunn 7, Hutton 6, Chester 6, Baker 8, Amavi 7, Adamoah 6, Jedinak 5, Gardner 7, Bacuna 7, McCormack 4, Kodjia 8. Gabby 7, Westie and Rudy 6
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Can't believe how important baker has become to the team. Fair play to the lad always give it his all.
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Anyone want to guess the last time we could enjoy Christmas having won the previous game?
2010 v the Baggies.
Well looked up! :P
So long ago sodding Heskey scored!
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Gabby can't even take a throw-in! Technically his feet were over the touch line in the build up to the goal. Why ignore Grealish?
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I thought we played fairly well. Considering the shite we were served up in the last offering this was a much improved performance.
Bacuna and Amavi linked up very well together, Baker and Chester looked as solid as ever and Kodjia came ready to work hard. We looked like we were capable of putting a few away today which is encouraging.
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Anyone want to guess the last time we could enjoy Christmas having won the previous game?
2010 v the Baggies.
Well looked up! :P
So long ago sodding Heskey scored!
:)
Yo be honest I started from the 2000 season and worked forward, and was amazed it was as recent as that!
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One worry is losing Kod soon. Concerns me that no other strikers look much like scoring.
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One worry is losing Kod soon. Concerns me that no other strikers look much like scoring.
Is he a definite?
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Fair play to Bunn, that was as solid as I've seen him in a Villa shirt. A crucial win that could be the springboard for a great 2017.
I don't remember him making a save, but at least he was assertive cutting out crosses.
I thought Chester and Baker have become a quality partnership, and on top of that I was impressed with Hutton. Amavi had a typical game, enough speed to take risks and comfortably recover.. hope our back four can keep it up.
It looks like a no brainer that Bacuna has to be involved now. He has plenty of energy, is comfortable defending and has a bit of skill going forward. I think he would do okay in the middle of the park. From the off I thought he would do really well in a Bruce side, I'm surprised it's taken this long for him to be involved.
I was really disappointed with Ross. I don't see anything even remotely showing his ability in years past. No trickery, no short bursts or runs into space, he's not turning defenders.. Idk I'm just not convinced he feels like he has a big enough role here so he's not bothered.
On the other hand Kodjia and Adomah couldn't be more effective. Barring the missed pen, those two are loose cannons. They'll run by you, through you and around you. Love having them in the squad.
Still can't believe Gabby, Gary and Westwood have roles here. No offense to them but on a professional level I don't see what they bring. Hopefully January brings in some proper talent.
On the whole, I was very pleased with the first 35 minutes of the second hand.. and that was enough to take all three points.
Oh, and piss of Holloway.
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I'm not expecting us to play much better than that but the difference is we are getting some results now
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Yo be honest I started from the 2000 season and worked forward, and was amazed it was as recent as that!
I worked backwards when looking it up. Seeing the 8-0 still hurts.
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Bacuna and Amavi linked up very well together, Baker and Chester looked as solid as ever and Kodjia came ready to work hard. We looked like we were capable of putting a few away today which is encouraging.
Aye. As much as we were trying to out-shite QPR at times by giving the ball away under little pressure, we didn't have the Elphick handicap to contend with.
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Bringing on Gestede as a loan centre forward is never a good idea.....
Unfortunately Tonto, he's not on loan. He's ours.
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One worry is losing Kod soon. Concerns me that no other strikers look much like scoring.
Is he a definite?
You'd assume so for the squad at least, probably as a starter.
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Kodjia - work rate was 12/10. Amavi, Jedinak, Baker, Chester ... very good
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Can't believe how important baker has become to the team. Fair play to the lad always give it his all.
By my reckoning, since Bruce came in:
Baker starts - WWDWDWW
Elphick starts - DLWL
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Can't believe how important baker has become to the team. Fair play to the lad always give it his all.
Is he now 100% correlated with Bruce's wins?
He didn't play against Wigan.
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Can't believe how important baker has become to the team. Fair play to the lad always give it his all.
Is he now 100% correlated with Bruce's wins?
He didn't play against Wigan.
You're right, updated while you were posting. A pattern though for sure.
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Been saying it after every game lately - surely that must be Agbonlahor's last game for us.
Absolute crap.
Amavi had a decent game today although he had to do little in the way of defending. Even Hutton had an ok game, but Agbonlahor has got to go or be frozen out
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My Brother was out and about and asked to be updated. I messaged him to say we had scored, he asked who the scorer was and I said Gabby, to which he instantly replied ..who really scored? I think he would have believed me more if Id said Bunn.
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Re Baker... to put it another way, in the Bruce era it's 2.4 points a game when he starts, 1 point a game when Elphick starts.
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Thought second half we were actually pretty good, very solid at the back and created a few chances. Bacuna a definite upgrade on other mid options at the moment, and Baker's looking indispensable. Hutton and amavi good too
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QPR really are bad, very bad. If we have any intent of promotion sides like them need putting to the sword. We did it with 10 men in effect as McCormack offers zilch.
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We're playing with half a midfield. That we have as many points as we do is a miracle in light of that.
Judging by the way he and Grealish were pinging the ball to each other at half time, Gollini would be a better bet to play ahead of Gardner.
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Also, there was an ovation, rather than an egging, for Tim F. Sherwood from our fans. Baffling.
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Thought Baker, Chester and Jedinak were great.
Kodj reminded me of Dean Saunders today with all the channel running. RMC was woeful and I'll be interested to see how many times Steve Bruce has to see Gabby run around to realise he's finished at this, and probably most levels?
Very important win.
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Re Baker... to put it another way, in the Bruce era it's 2.4 points a game when he starts, 1 point a game when Elphick starts.
True and he's better
Though elphick started two of our three hardest away games plus wolves before Bruce had made any impact
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Last win on Sky since December 2014, Can't be right
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No , it was the first win since then
👌😎
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Re Baker... to put it another way, in the Bruce era it's 2.4 points a game when he starts, 1 point a game when Elphick starts.
True and he's better
Though elphick started two of our three hardest away games plus wolves before Bruce had made any impact
Fair point. Also, against wolves he was in a back 4 with Richards so probably harsh to single him out as the decisive factor in our shitness. Although, on the other hand, you could also say we deserved absolutely nothing from his only win!
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Ross apart (was it him that missed the open goal rebound after the botched penalty?), the starting team did well. Hell of difference from Norwich game!
Was worried Bacuna wouldn't perform like he can in that makeshift left mid. But he was comfortable cutting across mid and helping Jedi and Gardner mid. He was even combining with AA and Hutton several times. With his energy he was always quick to get back and linking with Amavi on the left as required. Havn't seen distance covered numbers but figure he i up there. Didn't miss Grealish or Ayew out left since Bacuna had such a good game but we could had used either one instead of RMC beside Kodjia instead.
Gardner had a couple of terrible games but played mid beside Jedinak where Westwood have been the last 3 games and outdid him by a mile. 60% more passes, 5 times as much aerials and tackles and even 3 shots (1 on target, 1 miss and one blocked). Only Kodjia had more with 6. He is one of those players that never going to be great but improve a lot when Westwood isn't within pointing distance.
Back 4 flawless until Bruce figured he shore up the defensive and introduced Westwood and Rudy. Baker and Chester didnt have to work that hard today cause our midfield actually broke up most of the attacks. When called upon they where clinical... Baker looks like a different player than that awkward defender Lambert introduced beside Clark. Always been brave but there is something else about him and clicks well with Chester. Even Hutton deserves some accolade today.
3 points away from home and in good mood on Sunday. Figure that!
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Look much better with Baker at the back
Midfield still an issue as no one can control game from there , Jedinek breaks up play well but his passing is limited and whilst he is deep breaking up play nothing going on ahead of him.Gardner better ball winner than Westwood but gives ball away alot.
If I turned on tv midmatch and watched us I would suspect we were down to 10 men as we always look rushed on ball and no one really find space.
Kodjia wins it for us and will be huge loss in Jan.
Ross had one good turn and pass in FH but after that was not involved , looks down on confidence but the mf don't help him.Bacuna did well but we could do with some natural left footed players in MF as we look unbalanced
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Baker was back and solid. He's looking a very, very useful player in this division. Hopefully he can stay fit for most of it.
As for us, a million times better than against Norwich (though it was a help QPR are a million times worse than Norwich).
Kodjia got the goal he deserved. My one criticism of him is that he needs to learn that he has to pass the ball much more than he does. He tries to do too much on his own too often. But his effort was good.
Bacuna was ok, but our midfield still looks weak. I'm sure we're all hoping for a couple of signings of midfielders to help with this situation.
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Special mention for the portable barbed wire fence they still roll out around the away entrance. And you won't see more bored looking coppers on horses all season. Not quite sure what they were expecting.
And, for the first time ever, I had a seat where I could almost see both goals. A true Christmas miracle.
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Much needed 3 points
win the next 3 and get two central midfielders in jan and we could be in business
Had a quick look at the table and of the 12 teams above us we have played 3 at home and 9 away so a positive is 9 have got to come to vp
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What a pathetic excuse for a football ground.
My seat was unrestricted.... I beg to fucking differ! Couldn't see the left corner flag and didn't see the ball cross the line for the goal.
I pity the poor buggers who had a restricted view, they must have been essentially blindfolded!
3 points but there was some turgid stuff.
Kodija had some real joy down the channels but we only put the ball there 3 times all bloody game.
Hutton for the first 20 mins must have been confused between claret and blue and white!
I have a 100% win record at away games this season! Go me!
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Saw the second half round and thought we could have had another couple of goals for an easy win without being particularly good. Thought the Kodger's turn for the goal was very good outmuscling his marker and not fouling him. He chased a couple of lost causes and created a load of problems for the QPR defence. Lot of love going out to the Baker boy - get in there 50p head!
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I'm at a wedding and was thrilled to see we won. We badly needed that.
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After the results yesterday, we needed that just to stand still.
What are we going to do without Kodija!
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After the results yesterday, we needed that just to stand still.
What are we going to do without Kodija!
I think this is why Bruce keeps playing Gabby, a forlorn hope that he can lead the line in the new year. Hopefully he sees how incapable he is and buys someone else.
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After the results yesterday, we needed that just to stand still.
What are we going to do without Kodija!
I think this is why Bruce keeps playing Gabby, a forlorn hope that he can lead the line in the new year. Hopefully he sees how incapable he is and buys someone else.
Or hes keeping him in the shop window for january?
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After the results yesterday, we needed that just to stand still.
What are we going to do without Kodija!
I think this is why Bruce keeps playing Gabby, a forlorn hope that he can lead the line in the new year. Hopefully he sees how incapable he is and buys someone else.
Or hes keeping him in the shop window for january?
In cash convertors window we would be lucky to get a cracked fish tank and a mismatched suit where the previous owner shat himself
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After the results yesterday, we needed that just to stand still.
What are we going to do without Kodija!
I think this is why Bruce keeps playing Gabby, a forlorn hope that he can lead the line in the new year. Hopefully he sees how incapable he is and buys someone else.
Or hes keeping him in the shop window for january?
If you're inclined to shop at Lidl.
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How else are we going to get rid?
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How else are we going to get rid?
We're not
He is going to sit on his fat arse til his contract expires
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How else are we going to get rid?
We're not
He is going to sit on his fat arse til his contract expires
Or his arse explodes
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How else are we going to get rid?
We're not
He is going to sit on his fat arse til his contract expires
Or his arse explodes
Dont know which would give me more pleasure. Its the hope that kills you.Cliche included for effect only.
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/football/qpr-vs-a-villa/report/358371)
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Special mention for the portable barbed wire fence they still roll out around the away entrance. And you won't see more bored looking coppers on horses all season. Not quite sure what they were expecting.
And, for the first time ever, I had a seat where I could almost see both goals. A true Christmas miracle.
Special mention for the portable barbed wire fence they still roll out around the away entrance. And you won't see more bored looking coppers on horses all season. Not quite sure what they were expecting.
And, for the first time ever, I had a seat where I could almost see both goals. A true Christmas miracle.
It is the 1980's you know.
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Well dug out and deserved win in the end. We don't half make hard work out of this though.
Baker staying fit to partner Chester is crucial for us. Soooo much stronger defensively. We could do with a new centre half in Jan as Elphick is a liability and our only backup
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Also, there was an ovation, rather than an egging, for Tim F. Sherwood from our fans. Baffling.
That is very, very worrying.
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To be fair i thought Gabby made a difference when he came on. Zero impact on our striking ability but at least their defenders were more troubled than when McCormack was on e.g. no easy headers
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As others have said, Jedinak, Baker, Kodjia and Chester were the pick.
We need to calm down a bit and start finding people with passes, rather than aiming it long at the earliest opportunity. McCormack had a poor game, but jumping for half balls is never his game.
I'm never happy with the mentality when we go up either - slowing the game down too much and taking our foot off the pedal will see many leads lost
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I thought Hutton Gardener McCormick were awful.
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It wasn't pretty but neither is the Championship; needs must.
Loved the Kodjia attitude - he was absolutely determined to go and win the game.
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Woohooo!
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Also, there was an ovation, rather than an egging, for Tim F. Sherwood from our fans. Baffling.
That is very, very worrying.
Why? He saved us from relegation and took us to a cup final including the memorable semi final win so well done to our away supporters.
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Chester is such a solid player. Week after week.
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/football/qpr-vs-a-villa/report/358371)
Shame Ross missed an open goal from the penalty rebound.
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Chester is such a solid player. Week after week.
Whereas Elphick is such a fluid player weak after weak.
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Also, there was an ovation, rather than an egging, for Tim F. Sherwood from our fans. Baffling.
That is very, very worrying.
Why? He saved us from relegation and took us to a cup final including the memorable semi final win so well done to our away supporters.
He didn't save us from relegation, he set us up beautifully for it.
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Olaftab
Well said
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Sherwood is a cock but he gave me two of the best Villa days i've had.
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Also, there was an ovation, rather than an egging, for Tim F. Sherwood from our fans. Baffling.
That is very, very worrying.
Why? He saved us from relegation and took us to a cup final including the memorable semi final win so well done to our away supporters.
He didn't save us from relegation, he set us up beautifully for it.
The blame for that should be laid entirely at Randy Lerner's door. Sherwood was a symptom not a cause.
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Also, there was an ovation, rather than an egging, for Tim F. Sherwood from our fans. Baffling.
That is very, very worrying.
Y6... Our row gave him pelters.... 'Its partly your fault we are here you squirrel faced cock!'.. end quote
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Brilliant support to lost my voice left Essex at 9-30 then took
Brilliant support to
For all of those that was in the lower stand to left of goal the banter with the qpr fan was so funny
"Do you shop at jacamo"
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Pritty poor for the most part I thought,surely we have to improve our performances with the players we have in our squad!? Still a big 3 points after the results yesterday. UTV!
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Brilliant support to lost my voice left Essex at 9-30 then took
Brilliant support to
For all of those that was in the lower stand to left of goal the banter with the qpr fan was so funny
"Do you shop at jacamo"
If it was towards the fella in the sombrero, I thought 'paedo' and 'build the wall' were a bit strong.
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Also, there was an ovation, rather than an egging, for Tim F. Sherwood from our fans. Baffling.
That is very, very worrying.
Why? He saved us from relegation and took us to a cup final including the memorable semi final win so well done to our away supporters.
He didn't save us from relegation, he set us up beautifully for it.
He did both in truth, showing what we suspected - he has a short-term ability to lift and motivate a team but clueless in the day-to-day, longer-term running of it. Personally I'd neither boo nor give an ovation for those reasons. He does, in all honesty, seem a kind of a bellend though.
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Also, there was an ovation, rather than an egging, for Tim F. Sherwood from our fans. Baffling.
That is very, very worrying.
Why? He saved us from relegation and took us to a cup final including the memorable semi final win so well done to our away supporters.
He didn't save us from relegation, he set us up beautifully for it.
The blame for that should be laid entirely at Randy Lerner's door. Sherwood was a symptom not a cause.
Lerner was ultimately responsible, but blaming him entirely lets an awful lot of incompetent chancers off the hook. Sherwood was an inept gobshite who left a demoralised, unfit and divided squad behind him. I don't see why his massive contribution to our demise should be overlooked.
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QPR really were shocking today, their keeper made some great saves but should have done better for the goal. But their outfield players, you couldn't pick out one that was any way decent. Holloway seems a terrible appointment
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Sherwood is a cock but he gave me two of the best Villa days i've had.
yep i'll go with that as well
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QPR really were shocking today, their keeper made some great saves but should have done better for the goal. But their outfield players, you couldn't pick out one that was any way decent. Holloway seems a terrible appointment
He is a joke manager who has no idea what he is doing. QPR fans are deluded if they expect anything from him. They need to get a real manager in as quickly as possible.
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Sherwood is a cock but he gave me two of the best Villa days i've had.
yep i'll go with that as well
I see where you're both coming from but I think the latter part of his spell with us suggests that it was Benteke, Grealish, Sinclair et al who gave us those days rather than the gobshite himself.
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Sherwood is a cock but he gave me two of the best Villa days i've had.
yep i'll go with that as well
Yeah and he talks well of the club and the fans, so no hard feelings from me. He was a symptom not the cause.
As for the game, always good to get a win and we deserved it too. Can't wait for Boxing Day now!
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Sherwood is a cock but he gave me two of the best Villa days i've had.
yep i'll go with that as well
I see where you're both coming from but I think the latter part of his spell with us suggests that it was Benteke, Grealish, Sinclair et al who gave us those days rather than the gobshite himself.
they were all there before he came and playing shit, he got them playing the best football we have seen for a few years,
Didn't last but he still did it even if for a short time
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Sherwood is a cock but he gave me two of the best Villa days i've had.
yep i'll go with that as well
I see where you're both coming from but I think the latter part of his spell with us suggests that it was Benteke, Grealish, Sinclair et al who gave us those days rather than the gobshite himself.
they were all there before he came and playing shit, he got them playing the best football we have seen for a few years,
Didn't last but he still did it even if for a short time
Fair enough John.
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Just home and the missus aint happy, though made sure the lad was home first. Great day, was in the pub before ten and a few beers. Thought Baker and Jedinak were immense but we were chatting in pub after and discussing how James Chester gets on with his job without it being obvious. Out of the three of them, will go for Baker.
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QPR are poor and you have to beat what's put in front of you. We played ok though and were comfortable rather than spectacular. If we can get suitable replacements in for Gardner, Bacuna and a centre forward, who knows where we might end up. Bacuna did ok today to be fair but we need a left winger.
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Anyone want to guess the last time we could enjoy Christmas having won the previous game?
Was it the last time there was such a thing as a white Christmas?
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Anyone want to guess the last time we could enjoy Christmas having won the previous game?
Was it the last time there was such a thing as a white Christmas?
That was when we lost 8-0 to Chelsea!
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We seem to be making hard work of every game. We are still generally playing as a team of individuals. Kodjia was pulling their defence all over the place but so often nobody was running through into the space. I always look for players playing in groups of three in different parts of the pitch so that they can play themselves out of trouble and set up openings at the other end. This is not happening and, in my opinion, is why we are struggling.
Some good individual performances and was pleased with Baker. At this level he can use his strength to look solid, without having to be a ball player. Don't think I can remember Bunn making a save but did well with a couple of crosses. Bacuna is showing the right attitude and gave the midfield some energy.
Will be interesting to see who we bring in in January. Midfield is a must and considering how many forwards we have, nobody is strong enough in the air when the ball is played up to them. Having spent a lot of money on forwards, I am starting to think we need to spend some more and, in which case, I would look to offload one or two. A couple of loans might be the answer.
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Anyone want to guess the last time we could enjoy Christmas having won the previous game?
Was it the last time there was such a thing as a white Christmas?
That was when we lost 8-0 to Chelsea!
Oh, the magic of a perfect white Christmas.
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Not long back and at least we got the 3 points. I must confess our performances of late haven't been really convincing when you consider the level of opposition we have faced. Yep I agree you can only beat what's in front of you but the games we are winning are hardly easy wins....they all seem on a knife edge... I think Bruce really does have his work cut out to get us up this season. We have improved since he took the helm but it isn't a week by week improvement. Suppose it's a case of what January brings.
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It's odd as our performance against Brighton was so good and deserved 3 points. Since then we do look very unconvincing.
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I think he needs to make sure he knows the difference between GHD and GHB.
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Anyone want to guess the last time we could enjoy Christmas having won the previous game?
Was it the last time there was such a thing as a white Christmas?
That was when we lost 8-0 to Chelsea!
Oh, the magic of a perfect white Christmas.
Ahh what a magical Christmas. Didn't we continue the Christmas spirit by losing 4-0 to Spurs and 3-0 to Wigan?
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I think he needs to make sure he knows the difference between GHD and GHB.
Totes wrong thread.
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I think he needs to make sure he knows the difference between GHD and GHB.
Totes wrong thread.
Take some time to mullet over.
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I think he needs to make sure he knows the difference between GHD and GHB.
Totes wrong thread.
Take some time to mullet over.
I thought you might have been suggesting Bruce has been on some kind of legal high. Might explain his persistence with Gabby. Should be a fringe player at best.
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Do beehive.
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Poor game. We looked very championship
Not playing jack is a bad decision as he has something no one else does
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Poor game. We looked very championship
Not playing jack is a bad decision as he has something no one else does
Yes his gas-withdrawal happens at an altitude about 100 cm above the rest of us....
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Poor game. We looked very championship
Not playing jack is a bad decision as he has something no one else does
Far from poor. We won away on sky for the first time in donkeys, kept them out for 95 minutes resulting in them having zero shots on target. We were the better side and deserved to win.
A truer reflection of the game was it should of ended 0-3.
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QPR are poor and you have to beat what's put in front of you. We played ok though and were comfortable rather than spectacular. If we can get suitable replacements in for Gardner, Bacuna and a centre forward, who knows where we might end up. Bacuna did ok today to be fair but we need a left winger.
We could always try Green and Hepburn-Murphy.
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We were awful first half, slightly better second half. Our tempo is far too slow and pedestrian and our passing is woeful. Luckily for us QPR are on par with Rotherham as the worst team I've seen this season. Not once did I think they would score.
Burton are also poor and beating them won't make anyone take notice. Beating Leeds will make me and a few others start to believe we could go on a run.
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Average performance at best, against a crap team, missed penalty, cracking goal, Merry Christmas Villa family one and all.
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Like others have said, we made hard work of it but I thought we deserved it without playing that well. It looks like we've found a decent centre half pairing in Baker and Chester and Bunn is nowhere near as poor as some make him out to be although he didn't have a great deal to do. We also need to take Kodjia off penalties. Keepers know where he's going to put them and besides, we have Jedinak who takes them for his country.
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Well done Villa, we did what we had to do. I needed that result after a particularly shit week.
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Jingle bells, jingle bells. Jingle all the way. Oh what fun it is to see the Villa win away. Merry Christmas everyone.
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We definitely deserved the win
QPR were very poor as is this league generally
Our passing is woeful still. Hutton, Jedinak, Gardner, Bacuna particular culprits
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I've only seen the highlights but from what I've seen we created a lot of chances and should have won 3 or 4-0.
After creating nothing at Norwich at least we created lots of chances today.
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What made it more enjoyable was hearing Gollum lookalike Holloway bleating in his post match interview. What a ******.
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What made it more enjoyable was hearing Gollum lookalike Holloway bleating in his post match interview. What a c***.
Yes I agree about that idiot Holloway. Why has he got a random dislike of all things Villa? Fucking tosser!
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Shit in the first half, absolutely rubbish, but a bit more steady in the second. Felt sorry for the Rangers fan in the sombrero with the rattle and the vuvuzela who was getting some unnecessary stick in front of his family. At one point he was standing up shouting "chips and gravy" in a poor Brummie accent. The fat fella near the touchline deserved all the abuse he received though.
Feeling a bit rough this morning, must've been something I ate....
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I've only seen the highlights but from what I've seen we created a lot of chances and should have won 3 or 4-0.
After creating nothing at Norwich at least we created lots of chances today.
We should have had three penalties alright but more for daft QPR defending rather than good attacking play.
Two good shots in quick succession from Kodjia and Bacuna forced good saves, Gestede butchered his chance late on. Still concerning that were are unable to play through teams, can't seem to get Amavi in behind either.
Nearly all our good play came from Kodjia getting a ball in one of the channels, turning his man and running with it. We won't get away with that against most teams in this division. Was good to see Gardner breaking forward well yesterday in the no.8 role, should have had a pen and was very close to a cracking Amavi cross.
The quality of the opposition has to be taken into account though, don't think we would have got away with that team v Leeds or Norwich either.
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Good result we deserved the win could have won by more got to meet John Gregory before the match which was nice I'm just pleased with the win.
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Brilliant support to lost my voice left Essex at 9-30 then took
Brilliant support to
For all of those that was in the lower stand to left of goal the banter with the qpr fan was so funny
"Do you shop at jacamo"
We were all chanting " build the wall, build the wall"
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I thought Hutton Gardener McCormick were awful.
Hutton had a good game as many people have mentioned. I realise for some it will never be enough.
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Shit in the first half, absolutely rubbish, but a bit more steady in the second. Felt sorry for the Rangers fan in the sombrero with the rattle and the vuvuzela who was getting some unnecessary stick in front of his family. At one point he was standing up shouting "chips and gravy" in a poor Brummie accent. The fat fella near the touchline deserved all the abuse he received though.
Feeling a bit rough this morning, must've been something I ate....
I'm surprised you can type, have seen the pictures of us all yet?
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Shit in the first half, absolutely rubbish, but a bit more steady in the second. Felt sorry for the Rangers fan in the sombrero with the rattle and the vuvuzela who was getting some unnecessary stick in front of his family. At one point he was standing up shouting "chips and gravy" in a poor Brummie accent. The fat fella near the touchline deserved all the abuse he received though.
Feeling a bit rough this morning, must've been something I ate....
I'm surprised you can type, have seen the pictures of us all yet?
The last pub we went to - can't even remember where it was - I seem to remember having to climb through a serving hatch every time I went to the toilet.
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Just go round to seeing the match, as I was out all day yesterday. Improved second half after a pretty poor first. Apart from Kodija, was very impressed with Chester and Baker, could be the new 'McGrath & Teale', well perhaps not!
Impressed with Rudy translating for Jonathan in the post match interviews, considering his football talents, perhaps he went into the wrong profession!
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Shit in the first half, absolutely rubbish, but a bit more steady in the second. Felt sorry for the Rangers fan in the sombrero with the rattle and the vuvuzela who was getting some unnecessary stick in front of his family. At one point he was standing up shouting "chips and gravy" in a poor Brummie accent. The fat fella near the touchline deserved all the abuse he received though.
Feeling a bit rough this morning, must've been something I ate....
I'm surprised you can type, have seen the pictures of us all yet?
The last pub we went to - can't even remember where it was - I seem to remember having to climb through a serving hatch every time I went to the toilet.
It defiantly wasn't built with Andy in mind.
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It could only get better after the disgrace of Norwich away, and it did. Managers team selection and tactics acknowledged the fact he royally fucked up Tuesday night thus at least giving us a chance and decent performance from the majority of the starting XI duly delivered a deserved 3 points against a dreadful R's team.
We'll miss Jonny Todger big time in Jan/Feb.
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Shit in the first half, absolutely rubbish, but a bit more steady in the second. Felt sorry for the Rangers fan in the sombrero with the rattle and the vuvuzela who was getting some unnecessary stick in front of his family. At one point he was standing up shouting "chips and gravy" in a poor Brummie accent. The fat fella near the touchline deserved all the abuse he received though.
Feeling a bit rough this morning, must've been something I ate....
hmm... sombrero, rattle, vuvuzela... unenecessary stick you say?
OK...guess you had to be there?
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Shit in the first half, absolutely rubbish, but a bit more steady in the second. Felt sorry for the Rangers fan in the sombrero with the rattle and the vuvuzela who was getting some unnecessary stick in front of his family. At one point he was standing up shouting "chips and gravy" in a poor Brummie accent. The fat fella near the touchline deserved all the abuse he received though.
Feeling a bit rough this morning, must've been something I ate....
hmm... sombrero, rattle, vuvuzela... unenecessary stick you say?
OK...guess you had to be there?
Yep. Chanting 'paedo' at him in front of his kids, for example.
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The same bloke was in that seat in his sombrero only a few years back (the 1-1 game) when there was a bit more humour in the Villa chanting and it was "does your donkey know you're here?". In keeping with the levels of Villa away this season it was chants of "peado", which not surprisingly only the sheep joined in with.
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Shit in the first half, absolutely rubbish, but a bit more steady in the second. Felt sorry for the Rangers fan in the sombrero with the rattle and the vuvuzela who was getting some unnecessary stick in front of his family. At one point he was standing up shouting "chips and gravy" in a poor Brummie accent. The fat fella near the touchline deserved all the abuse he received though.
Feeling a bit rough this morning, must've been something I ate....
I'm surprised you can type, have seen the pictures of us all yet?
The last pub we went to - can't even remember where it was - I seem to remember having to climb through a serving hatch every time I went to the toilet.
It defiantly wasn't built with Andy in mind.
The Windsor Castle in Notting Hill. A quaint pub but not designed for a group of a dozen football fans standing together. One of the waitresses was getting very irate. We should have unfurled the flag in there, she wold have gone batshit.
Your below par state must be due to that sandwich you had from Pret.
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Shit in the first half, absolutely rubbish, but a bit more steady in the second. Felt sorry for the Rangers fan in the sombrero with the rattle and the vuvuzela who was getting some unnecessary stick in front of his family. At one point he was standing up shouting "chips and gravy" in a poor Brummie accent. The fat fella near the touchline deserved all the abuse he received though.
Feeling a bit rough this morning, must've been something I ate....
hmm... sombrero, rattle, vuvuzela... unenecessary stick you say?
OK...guess you had to be there?
He was just a passionate bloke having a laugh, Rob. I didn't like the paedo chants either as he had his young daughter with him. He left 2-3 minutes before the end and was applauding the Villa fans. Most reciprocated.
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I liked the fat, half bald bloke in the lower tier that was giving it the come on then! in his silver jacket. What a tit.
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I liked the fat, half bald bloke in the lower tier that was giving it the come on then! in his silver jacket. What a tit.
He kept pulling his hood over his bald head whenever he gave the wanker signals.
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Yeah I noticed that too. He had quite the dome forming on his bonce.
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I love the London away days when the Cockney Villa are out. I like hearing the "fackin he'll McCormack you fat cant" warms the cockles of yer heart Tom and reminds you that we're a huge clubs with hma massive support base.
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I like this fella. I think Dave Cooper would too
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I thought Hutton Gardener McCormick were awful.
Hutton had a good game as many people have mentioned. I realise for some it will never be enough.
He did. Best I've seen him in a while
He is one of those players, like Westwood, that some fans will never give any credit to
I thought Gardner was shocking to begin with but got better. Although you do wonder what he's thinking with some of his "passing"
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I like this fella. I think Dave Cooper would too
Superb scenes after the goal and FT. Thanks for posting that peter w.
Brilliant away support and so loud. 3000 + Sunday noon kick off live on the box, amazing.
What's the song they're singing? " everywhere we go"...
Fair play to all that went on here.
UTV
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I thought Hutton Gardener McCormick were awful.
Hutton had a good game as many people have mentioned. I realise for some it will never be enough.
He did. Best I've seen him in a while
He is one of those players, like Westwood, that some fans will never give any credit to
I thought Gardner was shocking to begin with but got better. Although you do wonder what he's thinking with some of his "passing"
I'm getting the vibe of Gardner being a poor man's Jedinak - good at winning the ball in a physical contest, but even worse at the passing side of things.
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Gardner was breaking into the box well. But he's so sloppy in possession
I was watching the Merseyside Derby yday. It was a poor game with lots of giving the ball away
But i was still comparing the pace and accuracy of the passing with ours on Sunday, with a bit of a shudder. We're so far off that
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I thought Hutton Gardener McCormick were awful.
Hutton had a good game as many people have mentioned. I realise for some it will never be enough.
He did. Best I've seen him in a while
He is one of those players, like Westwood, that some fans will never give any credit to
I'm not a fan of Hutton at all, never have been. I would say though that I think he's been ok since Bruce has been here.
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Nice awayday vid. What was the one minute's applause for pre-match?
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Nice awayday vid. What was the one minute's applause for pre-match?
Dead people.