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Title: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 25, 2016, 04:15:10 PM: Tuesday 27.9.16 KO 7.45pm

0-2 away win.

Ayew
Kodjia
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VinnieChase84 on September 25, 2016, 04:19:29 PM: 3-1 - Kodjia x3
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on September 25, 2016, 04:22:50 PM: 2-0 to us
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sickbeggar on September 25, 2016, 04:23:19 PM: hmmm. Doing ok Barnsley... think we'll nick it but if i was a betting man and given they're playing us, DRAW
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on September 25, 2016, 04:59:36 PM: I've literally got no idea about Barnsley or any of their players.

I really think it should be 433 or 4312. Wonder if McCormack will be fit? I'm guessing might be a bit early

I'd play baker for elphick. A decision about the third man in midfield and up front.

Gollini

Bacuna Chester baker cissokho

Tshibola Jedinak grealish

Kodjia gestede ayew
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on September 25, 2016, 05:00:51 PM: Of course, we are due to gel soon and give somebody an almighty spanking.

1-1

(Although it is Barsnley who have handed out a couple of spankings this season. Yes, I'm talking to you Dingles. And Rotherham).
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KRS on September 25, 2016, 05:02:36 PM: I think it's fair to say that we're due a win...by the Power of McGrath, so it shalt be done.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nev on September 25, 2016, 05:20:20 PM: First away game since The Scottish Managers first match at Fulham over 5 years ago. I've been to Oakwell a couple of times, I wonder if they still play that funny little song before the teams come out?

Anyway, no idea what sort of performance or indeed result to expect after yesterday but law of averages dictates that we are due a win.

1-0.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on September 25, 2016, 05:51:14 PM: We will win this one, I've never felt more confident of a result, 1-3 Kodjia, Ayew, Adomah.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mr underhill on September 25, 2016, 05:52:38 PM: the law of averages dictates we will win in 2017.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on September 25, 2016, 05:53:00 PM: I know there's no such thing as a must win game but this is a must win game. Hopefully the 3-5-2 experiment has been well and truly binned after two awful outings and RdM will set us up like yesterday's second half. If we play like we did for the first 60 minutes yesterday we'll lose, play like we did for the last 20 minutes yesterday and we'll win. Carry forward the confidence of getting a late result - Villa to win 2-1
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 25, 2016, 05:55:50 PM: A draw as usual.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 25, 2016, 05:57:21 PM: A win a win a win... we peasants demand nothing less!
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on September 25, 2016, 06:14:46 PM: Another draw. We shouldn't be boring with the attack we have but draws make you boring.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 25, 2016, 06:15:42 PM: And we'll hit the woodwork as usual.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on September 25, 2016, 06:33:32 PM: I think we are due a win. 0-2. Would be nice if McCormack was declared fit and working behind Kodjia and Ayew on the left.

Jack on the subs bench.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: berneboy on September 25, 2016, 07:26:11 PM: 1-3

Jack back with a brace
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on September 25, 2016, 07:31:44 PM: this I believe is the one.

we finished well against new castle and saw that if there the bench mark, then we must start being more arrogant and dismissing these piss ant teams, and that's all Barnsley are.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on September 25, 2016, 07:56:52 PM: 2-0 Yorke and Saunders
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on September 25, 2016, 08:24:47 PM: 3-1 villa

Gollini

Westwood Chester baker Amavi

Tshibola Jedinak grealish

Kodjia gestede ayew

Westwood never gets dropped and hes a very below average midfielder , so just shove him RB

I prefer Rudy to come on to be honest but depends on RM being fit , would like to see H-M getting 30 minutes as well.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on September 25, 2016, 08:31:38 PM: Win it. Just win it.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: preston28 on September 25, 2016, 08:41:24 PM: 1-3 to the Villa. I've got a good feeling about this one.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on September 25, 2016, 08:45:24 PM: Quote from: JUAN PABLO on September 25, 2016, 08:24:47 PM
3-1 villa

Gollini

Westwood Chester baker Amavi

Tshibola Jedinak grealish

Kodjia gestede ayew

Westwood never gets dropped and hes a very below average midfielder , so just shove him RB

I prefer Rudy to come on to be honest but depends on RM being fit , would like to see H-M getting 30 minutes as well.

Don't full backs have to tackle?
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on September 25, 2016, 08:47:02 PM: Quote from: Bren'd on September 25, 2016, 08:31:38 PM
Win it. Just win it.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on September 25, 2016, 09:26:51 PM: 0-4
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on September 25, 2016, 09:32:50 PM: PS4 predicts a 1-0 defeat, with Ashley Westwood getting a straight red in the first half for an absolute horror tackle.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on September 25, 2016, 10:08:38 PM: Quote from: Richard E on September 25, 2016, 09:32:50 PM
PS4 predicts a 1-0 defeat, with Ashley Westwood getting a straight red in the first half for an absolute horror tackle.

Ha Ha Ha Ha.

You should find a pub with open mike comedy nights with material like that.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 25, 2016, 11:20:57 PM: I reckon this will be the night when it clicks into place over 90 minutes....as long as there's a sensible starting team selection.

Barnsley are good going forward but leave a lot of space at the back so their games have plenty of goals at both ends.

Show them respect by playing three CMs...but surely Adomah-Kodjia-Ayew as a front trio would cause chaos on the counter attack. That's what I'd go for personally. Keep McCormack on the bench.

1-3 win.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on September 25, 2016, 11:57:23 PM: Gollini
Bacuna Elphick Chester Cissokho

Westwood Jedinak Tshibola

Ayew Adomah

Kodija

A feking hiding for Barnsley
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on September 26, 2016, 12:23:29 AM: It's tempting to say that away from home might be more easier.

The onus is generally on the home side to attack, so they should come at us more.

Problem is, when sides come at us -whether they be Luton, Bristol, Brentford or whoever- we generally fold. Forest didn't even need to have any sustained period of possession and still bagged two goals.

With our attacking threat, we should be on the front foot at home or away. If we do that, and go 2-0 up, we might have a chance.

As well as the rousing 20 minutes at the end of the Newcastle game, we also seemed to get a bit of luck defensively for the first time in ages. Earlier in the season or last year that daft clearance from Bacuna gets put away. Would be nice if we've turned a corner there n'all.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on September 26, 2016, 02:43:15 AM: They score first, draw in the end 2-2. Pressure on RDM grows.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on September 26, 2016, 07:24:13 AM: 1-1
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on September 26, 2016, 08:33:30 AM: 2-1 villa.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 26, 2016, 08:55:54 AM: Does anyone know if you can buy in the away end at the stadium. I am working in Manchester and really fancy going
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on September 26, 2016, 09:40:49 AM: Another draw 1-1.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on September 26, 2016, 09:44:41 AM: Tshibola makes a huge difference in midfield - hopefully he can stay fit for the two games this week before his suspension kicks in for the Wolves game.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on September 26, 2016, 10:18:58 AM: Quote from: Hookeysmith on September 26, 2016, 08:55:54 AM
Does anyone know if you can buy in the away end at the stadium. I am working in Manchester and really fancy going

Ring the ticket office and ask to pick up at Barnsley?
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: West Derby Villan on September 26, 2016, 11:05:04 AM: 3-1 to Aston Villa FC
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on September 26, 2016, 11:39:32 AM: Gollini

Bacuna Elphick Chester Amavi

Westwood Jedinak
Tshibola

Kodjia McCormack Ayew

Subs: Bunn, Cissokho, Baker, Gardner, Grealish, Adoma, Gestede
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 26, 2016, 12:29:37 PM: Quote from: hoyle87 on September 26, 2016, 11:39:32 AM
Gollini

Bacuna Elphick Chester Amavi

Westwood Jedinak
Tshibola

Kodjia McCormack Ayew

Subs: Bunn, Cissokho, Baker, Gardner, Grealish, Adoma, Gestede
I like this however I think Kodjia should be central.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mr underhill on September 26, 2016, 12:33:54 PM: so do I, presumably we bought him to play centrally. I just don't get why players aren't played in their recognised position.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bottom Right 89 on September 26, 2016, 12:36:00 PM: They're 3 wins out of 4 at home this season, seem to have no problems scoring but have lost their last 2 games to Brighton and Reading. This will be no easy game but if we start as we finished Saturday should be more than capable.

Just need to stop messing about in defence and clear our lines rather than looking to play it out from the back all the time. I'd be giving Adoma another start, drop a defender and put Tshibola in.

Up front is the difficult one - I really think Gestede should play, he causes chaos in the opposition box and something always drops for us from corners and crosses with him in there but then who do take out? If it was me Kodja would be main striker and I'd start Ayew and Gestede up with him tomorrow. McCormack/Hepburn/Grealish to come off the bench if it's not going to plan.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 26, 2016, 12:40:43 PM: Quote from: AV82EC on September 26, 2016, 10:18:58 AM
Quote from: Hookeysmith on September 26, 2016, 08:55:54 AM
Does anyone know if you can buy in the away end at the stadium. I am working in Manchester and really fancy going

Ring the ticket office and ask to pick up at Barnsley?

That's what the official site says.

When you call up Hookey, ask them how many we've sold. You'll make Quinton Villa's day!
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 26, 2016, 12:59:19 PM: Venue: Oakwell Stadium, Barnsley
Ticket Allocation: 5,500 Tickets - TICKETS FOR THIS FIXTURE ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE ONLINE. TICKETS CAN BE PURCHASED THROUGH THE TICKET OFFICE EITHER IN PERSON OR OVER THE PHONE. ALL TICKETS SOLD THROUGH ASTON VILLA MUST BE COLLECTED FROM VILLA PARK PRIOR TO TRAVELLING TO BARNSLEY. TICKETS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO PURCHASE ON THE NIGHT OF THE GAME. JUNIOR PRICE CLASSES WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE ON THE NIGHT AND ALL TICKETS WILL COST AND ADDITIONAL £2

Do you think they mean at VP rather than Oakwell?
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 26, 2016, 01:03:02 PM: Just called Barnsley ticket office direct

Villa fans can buy on the night @ £32.50 cash only

The stand holds 6000 and we have sold 3500 so far so a good few left ;)
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on September 26, 2016, 01:37:49 PM: Quote from: Villa in Denmark on September 25, 2016, 10:08:38 PM
Quote from: Richard E on September 25, 2016, 09:32:50 PM
PS4 predicts a 1-0 defeat, with Ashley Westwood getting a straight red in the first half for an absolute horror tackle.

Ha Ha Ha Ha.

You should find a pub with open mike comedy nights with material like that.

You may mock, but FIFA Whateveryearitwasthen predicted we would lose to Bradford over 2 legs.*

*Perhaps I am just not much cop on FIFA.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 26, 2016, 02:15:20 PM: Quote from: Hookeysmith on September 26, 2016, 01:03:02 PM
Just called Barnsley ticket office direct

Villa fans can buy on the night @ £32.50 cash only

The stand holds 6000 and we have sold 3500 so far so a good few left ;)

Who the hell was saying we'd sold 5.5k for this game a few weeks ago on the tickets and travel site?!
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on September 26, 2016, 02:34:20 PM: It must have been taken as gospel as in his weekly article Dave mentions nearly 10k tickets having been sold for this and the Preston game.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nelson Lodge on September 26, 2016, 02:41:27 PM: Newcastle had not drawn a league before last Saturday.

Barnsley have yet to draw a league game this season.

Preston have yet to draw a league game this season.

Villa have drawn 6; far more than any other club in the division.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mr underhill on September 26, 2016, 02:51:58 PM: So we might draw then?
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nelson Lodge on September 26, 2016, 02:55:25 PM: Possibly!
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: levico on September 26, 2016, 02:56:17 PM: Has to be a draw. Isn't it?
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bottom Right 89 on September 26, 2016, 03:55:25 PM: Quote from: SoccerHQ on September 26, 2016, 02:15:20 PM
Quote from: Hookeysmith on September 26, 2016, 01:03:02 PM
Just called Barnsley ticket office direct

Villa fans can buy on the night @ £32.50 cash only

The stand holds 6000 and we have sold 3500 so far so a good few left ;)

Who the hell was saying we'd sold 5.5k for this game a few weeks ago on the tickets and travel site?!
We've sold out at Preston and every other away this season. Looks like Barnsley is going to end the run - only 4k for a Tuesday night in Yorkshire? the phoning dead will be all over this on WM. "Franksy the Blues took 45 thousand to Oakwell last season"
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 26, 2016, 04:03:52 PM: But most of them couldn't find it which is why there were so few in Oakwell for the game.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 26, 2016, 04:04:14 PM: Quote from: SoccerHQ on September 26, 2016, 02:15:20 PM
Quote from: Hookeysmith on September 26, 2016, 01:03:02 PM
Just called Barnsley ticket office direct

Villa fans can buy on the night @ £32.50 cash only

The stand holds 6000 and we have sold 3500 so far so a good few left ;)

Who the hell was saying we'd sold 5.5k for this game a few weeks ago on the tickets and travel site?!

That was a photshop thing on Twitter I believe. Somebody had basically copied the sold out from the travel and shopped it into the icon above.

I was told when I got a couple of extras about 2 or 3 weeks ago that there were 500 left! Must have meant of the first batch
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 26, 2016, 04:07:07 PM: 3K+ is still an amazing effort on a Tuesday night for a side that haven't won away for over a year and have only won 4 leagues games out of the last 49 going back to May 2015.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 26, 2016, 04:30:51 PM: Aye. Me and our kid will be there to see us win, so I'm not arsed.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on September 26, 2016, 04:31:12 PM: Quote from: Bottom Right 89 on September 26, 2016, 03:55:25 PM
Quote from: SoccerHQ on September 26, 2016, 02:15:20 PM
Quote from: Hookeysmith on September 26, 2016, 01:03:02 PM
Just called Barnsley ticket office direct

Villa fans can buy on the night @ £32.50 cash only

The stand holds 6000 and we have sold 3500 so far so a good few left ;)

Who the hell was saying we'd sold 5.5k for this game a few weeks ago on the tickets and travel site?!
We've sold out at Preston and every other away this season. Looks like Barnsley is going to end the run - only 4k for a Tuesday night in Yorkshire? the phoning dead will be all over this on WM. "Franksy the Blues took 45 ~~thousand~~ to Oakwell last season"

fixed
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on September 26, 2016, 05:19:20 PM: Last time we played at Barnsley was in a kit similar to what we'll wear tomorrow, wasn't it (light blue and white with claret streak) ?
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on September 26, 2016, 05:49:19 PM: Quote from: Nelson Lodge on September 26, 2016, 02:41:27 PM
Newcastle had not drawn a league before last Saturday.

Barnsley have yet to draw a league game this season.

Preston have yet to draw a league game this season.

Villa have drawn 6; far more than any other club in the division.

Far more than any club in the World!!
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on September 26, 2016, 06:07:41 PM: Barnsley are shit defensively. They also break quickly from midfield and have some very confident attacking players. I would play four at the back and bring Cissokho back in for solidity.

Jedinak could be very important in breaking up play and we desperately need the legs of Tish to both counter quick breaks and to get us on the front foot.

Whisper it quietly but Westwood might be useful in the midfield 3 (do you hear me Bobby, 3 in midfield) in this one as well.

They will have a go and leave lots of space. If he can quickly move it ten yards to the wing we could have a field day on the break. That's why Gestede cannot start. Adomah and Ayew flitting between midfield and attack with Kodjia up top.

We should absolutely fuck them on the break if we set up like that.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on September 26, 2016, 06:08:54 PM: I thought Cissokho was a bit unlucky to get the drop, he's been pretty solid so far this season.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on September 26, 2016, 06:30:50 PM: The momentum from the late goal against the barcodes should not be underestimated.

Our season starts here: 0-3 to the Mighty Villa!!!

Let's have it!!!!
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: oldtimernow on September 26, 2016, 08:09:47 PM: bang on 1-1 draw, lousy refereeing decisions costs us the extra points with Villa down to 10 men for second half and they get a last minute equaliser just after we hit their post.

Sort of sums up our season to date really.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nunkin1965 on September 26, 2016, 08:19:44 PM: I just think we start tomorrow night. We'll get the breaks and get the long awaited win. Can't explain why but just have a feeling. Really looking forward to this game.

Or is it the alcohol?

Oh feck 3-1 Villa. Ayew, Kodjia, Adomah.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on September 26, 2016, 08:27:58 PM: Quote from: VancouverLion on September 26, 2016, 06:30:50 PM
The momentum from the late goal against the barcodes should not be underestimated.

Our season starts here: 0-3 to the Mighty Villa!!!

Let's have it!!!!

I have never known so many season restarts , hope you are right though
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: maigrait on September 26, 2016, 08:30:49 PM: Surely a win??!! 2-1
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on September 26, 2016, 10:07:19 PM: Last minute winner, 2-1
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 26, 2016, 10:32:55 PM: Think we'll beat T'Barnsley. It has to click sooner or later. Someone is going to get twatted by our front line.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on September 26, 2016, 11:15:16 PM: Quote from: aj2k77 on September 26, 2016, 06:08:54 PM
I thought Cissokho was a bit unlucky to get the drop, he's been pretty solid so far this season.

I thought he was injured, I didn't realise he'd been dropped. You're right about him this season though, he's been one of the better players so far.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 26, 2016, 11:52:07 PM: Quote from: Ads on September 26, 2016, 04:04:14 PM
Quote from: SoccerHQ on September 26, 2016, 02:15:20 PM
Quote from: Hookeysmith on September 26, 2016, 01:03:02 PM
Just called Barnsley ticket office direct

Villa fans can buy on the night @ £32.50 cash only

The stand holds 6000 and we have sold 3500 so far so a good few left ;)

Who the hell was saying we'd sold 5.5k for this game a few weeks ago on the tickets and travel site?!

That was a photshop thing on Twitter I believe. Somebody had basically copied the sold out from the travel and shopped it into the icon above.

I was told when I got a couple of extras about 2 or 3 weeks ago that there were 500 left! Must have meant of the first batch

Yeah that's probably where I got that idea from.

I'm not criticising anyone btw...4k is still a great turnout for a Tuesday night and end will still look packed as would imagine Barsnley will section off the first few rows.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on September 26, 2016, 11:54:32 PM: £32.50 for a midweek championship match at Barnsley? Bloody rob dogs.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on September 26, 2016, 11:55:41 PM: Quote from: cheltenhamlion on September 26, 2016, 06:07:41 PM
Barnsley are shit defensively. They also break quickly from midfield and have some very confident attacking players. I would play four at the back and bring Cissokho back in for solidity.

Jedinak could be very important in breaking up play and we desperately need the legs of Tish to both counter quick breaks and to get us on the front foot.

Whisper it quietly but Westwood might be useful in the midfield 3 (do you hear me Bobby, 3 in midfield) in this one as well.

They will have a go and leave lots of space. If he can quickly move it ten yards to the wing we could have a field day on the break. That's why Gestede cannot start. Adomah and Ayew flitting between midfield and attack with Kodjia up top.

We should absolutely fuck them on the break if we set up like that.

Yeah, would go with (assuming McCormack is not fit):

Gollini

Bacuna Elphick Chester Cissokho

Jedinak

Tshibola Westwood

Adomah Kodjia Ayew

Bench - Bunn, Baker, Richards, Amavi, Gardner, Grealish, Gestede

Westwood starts simply because the only other real option is Gardner.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 26, 2016, 11:56:27 PM: Quote from: saunders_heroes on September 26, 2016, 11:54:32 PM
£32.50 for a midweek championship match at Barnsley? Bloody rob dogs.

I can just imagine the chaos at the turnstiles trying to deal with that load of change.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 26, 2016, 11:57:23 PM: Saw Barnsley a fair bit last season as they ruthlessly demolished any chance Walsall had of joining everyone else in the championship over two legs in the play offs.

They've carried the momentum they've had for pretty much a year now (this time last year they were actually bottom of league one) and just try to outscore teams.

Their team last year had quite a few loanees who went back like Lloyld Isgrove and Ashley Fletcher. They also sold their best defender to Swansea, Alfie Mawson.

That said they still have some talented players we need to watch otherwise it will be yet more dropped points....Connor Hourihane is a very good attacking midfielder, won't be long before he's in the Ireland squad imo and upfront they've got Sam Winnall (from Willenhall) who scored 20 last season and has already scored a few this season. Keeping Tom Bradshaw on the bench.

Where I reckon this game will play into our hands is I reckon Barnsley will attack us from the off as that's what they know. So an early goal for us on the break and I reckon it will be a good night for us for once.,
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on September 27, 2016, 12:05:28 AM: Quote from: dave.woodhall on September 26, 2016, 11:56:27 PM
Quote from: saunders_heroes on September 26, 2016, 11:54:32 PM
£32.50 for a midweek championship match at Barnsley? Bloody rob dogs.

I can just imagine the chaos at the turnstiles trying to deal with that load of change.

Cash only as well.
2016 prices with 1970s cash till technology.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on September 27, 2016, 05:31:39 AM: Quote from: saunders_heroes on September 26, 2016, 11:15:16 PM
Quote from: aj2k77 on September 26, 2016, 06:08:54 PM
I thought Cissokho was a bit unlucky to get the drop, he's been pretty solid so far this season.

I thought he was injured, I didn't realise he'd been dropped. You're right about him this season though, he's been one of the better players so far.

It's because amavi is in theory more suited to the wing back role
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MonsXI on September 27, 2016, 06:43:17 AM: Quote from: tomd2103 on September 26, 2016, 11:55:41 PM
Quote from: cheltenhamlion on September 26, 2016, 06:07:41 PM
Barnsley are shit defensively. They also break quickly from midfield and have some very confident attacking players. I would play four at the back and bring Cissokho back in for solidity.

Jedinak could be very important in breaking up play and we desperately need the legs of Tish to both counter quick breaks and to get us on the front foot.

Whisper it quietly but Westwood might be useful in the midfield 3 (do you hear me Bobby, 3 in midfield) in this one as well.

They will have a go and leave lots of space. If he can quickly move it ten yards to the wing we could have a field day on the break. That's why Gestede cannot start. Adomah and Ayew flitting between midfield and attack with Kodjia up top.

We should absolutely fuck them on the break if we set up like that.

Yeah, would go with (assuming McCormack is not fit):

Gollini

Bacuna Elphick Chester Cissokho

Jedinak

Tshibola Westwood

Adomah Kodjia Ayew

Bench - Bunn, Baker, Richards, Amavi, Gardner, Grealish, Gestede

Westwood starts simply because the only other real option is Gardner.

That would be my preferred line up unless of course Ross is fit.

Villa 2-1
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on September 27, 2016, 07:08:17 AM: Quote from: Matt Collins on September 27, 2016, 05:31:39 AM
Quote from: saunders_heroes on September 26, 2016, 11:15:16 PM
Quote from: aj2k77 on September 26, 2016, 06:08:54 PM
I thought Cissokho was a bit unlucky to get the drop, he's been pretty solid so far this season.

I thought he was injured, I didn't realise he'd been dropped. You're right about him this season though, he's been one of the better players so far.

It's because amavi is in theory more suited to the wing back role

the only snag being he cant actually defend

a left sided midfielder all day long for me
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villabear on September 27, 2016, 07:56:45 AM: Kodjia as centre forward please. Not on the wing. Get balls into him and he'll score.

No idea what RDM, Clarke et al see to think he should be playing out wide.

0-2
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gareth on September 27, 2016, 08:15:04 AM: Quote from: Richard E on September 25, 2016, 09:32:50 PM
PS4 predicts a 1-0 defeat, with Ashley Westwood getting a straight red in the first half for an absolute horror tackle.

That'll be 3 game ban....collateral damage :-)

Have to admit when he fouled one of the stripeys on Saturday I shouted for a straight red card
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on September 27, 2016, 09:42:46 AM: Not been to Barnsley before so looking forward to it. We need to start picking up a few wins to move us up the table and I think tonight we will. 1-3 to us.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nev on September 27, 2016, 10:17:09 AM: Quote from: Clampy on September 27, 2016, 09:42:46 AM
Not been to Barnsley before so looking forward to it. We need to start picking up a few wins to move us up the table and I think tonight we will. 1-3 to us.

Think Alum Rock minus the glamour.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sid1964 on September 27, 2016, 10:19:55 AM: I am looking forward to going to Barnsley, hopefully the journey will be worth it!

0 - 2 to us and finally we start to get our season going!
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: stubbsyandy on September 27, 2016, 10:35:53 AM: It's my birthday and I WANT A WIN!
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on September 27, 2016, 10:41:35 AM: Quote from: stubbsyandy on September 27, 2016, 10:35:53 AM
It's my birthday and I WANT A WIN!

No problem.

Can't guarantee it will be a Villa one, though.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 27, 2016, 11:50:34 AM: This is going to sound like I've been drinking or sucking on a balloon but I think Westwood could be dropped tonight for Tshibola.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: castlefields_villan on September 27, 2016, 11:51:57 AM: It's got to happen sometime and wins in the next two games will make the table look a lot better.

2-1 Villa

Anyone know if it's on WM /FM/DAB etc... (up here in Stafford) I can only get it on FM on one radio and the DAB is from Wolverhampton & the black country, so I always end up with the Wolves game when on DAB :-[
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on September 27, 2016, 11:59:22 AM: Quote from: sid1964 on September 27, 2016, 10:19:55 AM
I am looking forward to going to Barnsley

First time anybody has ever said those words.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 27, 2016, 12:17:04 PM: Anyone know where to drink prior to game - I intend to park close to the ground and remember to remove Villa badge from car ;)
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 27, 2016, 12:20:32 PM: The Dove Inn is about 5 minutes from the ground on the Doncaster Road.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on September 27, 2016, 12:44:11 PM: 3-1 win.

Gollini
Bacuna Elphick Chester Cissokho
Jedinak Tshibola
Ayew McCormack Grealish
Kodjia

That's if McCormack is fit and Grealish is forgiven.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 27, 2016, 12:44:13 PM: Quote from: Ads on September 27, 2016, 12:20:32 PM
The Dove Inn is about 5 minutes from the ground on the Doncaster Road.

So do you think it will be Villa in there?
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on September 27, 2016, 12:54:06 PM: Quote from: Matt Collins on September 27, 2016, 05:31:39 AM
Quote from: saunders_heroes on September 26, 2016, 11:15:16 PM
Quote from: aj2k77 on September 26, 2016, 06:08:54 PM
I thought Cissokho was a bit unlucky to get the drop, he's been pretty solid so far this season.

I thought he was injured, I didn't realise he'd been dropped. You're right about him this season though, he's been one of the better players so far.

It's because amavi is in theory more suited to the wing back role

Yes I agree, but why we've tried playing wing backs I have no idea? I'm sure when we spent tens of millions in the Summer wingbacks weren't at the forefront of any thinking.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 27, 2016, 01:00:12 PM: Big test for the defence tonight as Barnsley are the leagues top scorers with 19 goals. They've conceded 13 so their defence isn't great. We desperately need a win and I think we'll get it.

2-0 Villa
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on September 27, 2016, 01:13:28 PM: Barnsley have beaten

Derby 22nd
Qpr 16th
Rotherham 23rd
Preston 19th
Wolves 8th

And lost to

Reading 4th
Brighton 3rd
Ipswich 14th
Huddersfield 2nd

So it should give us a decent idea of where we are seeing as they've so far lost in general to the better sides and beaten the clubs that will struggle. Lose tonight and I think RDM will be gone, 1 win in 10 would be appalling, especially as a lot of the results can be laid at his feet directly.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on September 27, 2016, 01:49:20 PM: Don't think it's televised live but it is on various radio
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: selly park trinity on September 27, 2016, 01:49:49 PM: Trying to double check regarding paying on the door at Barnsley before going up. Anyone else going up there looking to pay on the gate?
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on September 27, 2016, 01:54:19 PM: Quote from: selly park trinity on September 27, 2016, 01:49:49 PM
Trying to double check regarding paying on the door at Barnsley before going up. Anyone else going up there looking to pay on the gate?
You can pay on the gate.

1-4 to us.
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Daleys Shorts on September 27, 2016, 02:12:39 PM: I think we have further to sink yet.

I hear Barnsley are playing a back three of Darren Gough, Michael Parkinson and Dicky Bird.

Barnsley 2 Aston Villa 1
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: simon ward 50 on September 27, 2016, 02:38:02 PM: I've given up predicting the results never mind the scores!
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 27, 2016, 03:52:07 PM: Quote from: selly park trinity on September 27, 2016, 01:49:49 PM
Trying to double check regarding paying on the door at Barnsley before going up. Anyone else going up there looking to pay on the gate?

Just called Barnsley ticket office direct

Villa fans can buy on the night @ £32.50 cash only

The stand holds 6000 and we have sold 3500 so far so a good few left
Title: Re: Barnsley v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on September 27, 2016, 05:05:33 PM: This is the kind of game where we need a George Curtis in defence .Elphick needs to have a very solid performance tonight!