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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave on September 12, 2016, 01:30:16 PM
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Villa Park, Wednesday 14th September, 19.45
3-0
Couple for Kodjia and one from Ayew.
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Let's hope so, we really need to win this game and several in the next month of so.
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Can I be the first person on this thread to say that I think we are going to give someone a hiding soon.
A win and we get to within a point of Brentford, lose and we're 7 points behind them. I'll go 2 nil to us. Fuck a lead up though and there will be murmers
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Could really do with a win, I think this game will suit us better than the Forest game, Brentford try and play football, Forest had no intentions of doing anything other than slowing the game down. 2-1 Kodjia and Grealish.
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Fuck the fuckers 3-1
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1 each, until we get a settled midfield we look we are going to concide Brentford like to attack.
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Come on lads... should be 2-1... confidence building win.
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Its a tricky match. They had a good win at Brighton and look a solid Championship side. Things could get a bit edgy at VP if we have a slow start. I do hope we pick up but I'm going for another draw 1-1. Chester for us.
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Going to this, my first game of the season. Well overdue a win, surely we have to get some luck at some point?
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Fuck the fuckers 3-1
This.
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We will be 9-0 up at half time. Just after half time we will concede a corner, panic will set in and it will finish 9 all.
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We cant keep on missing chances like we have forever, ill say 4-1 to the mighty claret and blue.
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It has to be a win. Nothing else is acceptable. Said I about Forest...
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Think I only know one of their players; Judge.
Otherwise they are a bit of an unknown quantity.
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4-0. A brace each for Westwood & Gardner.
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4-0. A brace each for Westwood & Gardner.
This.
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Think I only know one of their players; Judge.
Otherwise they are a bit of an unknown quantity.
Judge is currently out with a broken leg.
They are an inconsistent, young team who have tightened it up defensively this season while still playing good football. They have a good striker in Scott Hogan and don't really have any obvious weak links throughout the side.
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2-0.
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Someone is in for an imminent battering from us. Might as well be them. 5 -1.
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Surely a win. Hopefully Jedinak and tshibola Coke into midfield. 2-1 win.
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Can't see anything other than a thrashing for Bford even if they did twat Brighton.
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Straight-forward Villa victory...2-0 and so the inevitable rise begins...
- music starts around 12 secs.
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Straight-forward Villa victory...2-0 and so the inevitable rise begins...
- music starts around 12 secs.
Ha! That's a blast from the past. I still know all the words but the intro took me by surprise which isn't strange considering I haven't heard it for over 40 years. It's one 7" in my box that stays there. Maybe/hopefully I'll dig it out again in May 2017.
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3 points, however we get them but we just need that win to kick start us off.
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I saw Bromsgrove win 13-0 on Saturday, I expect to be watching Villa do the same.
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I'll be happy with another good performance as long as it's a win
1-0
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Straight-forward Villa victory...2-0 and so the inevitable rise begins...
- music starts around 12 secs.
Ha! That's a blast from the past. I still know all the words but the intro took me by surprise which isn't strange considering I haven't heard it for over 40 years. It's one 7" in my box that stays there. Maybe/hopefully I'll dig it out again in May 2017.
Marvellous. I've got that somewhere, as well!
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I just can't be optimistic about the result anymore.Villa have drained any optimism I once had over these last few years. Hope for a win but I'm afraid if I were to get it would be on a draw. FFS Villa please pleasantly surprised me.
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A close game but I think we'll snatch it either 2-1 or 3-2.
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Any win will do. Looks like good injury news - but I can't see us bringing all three into the midfield in one go
I'm really undecided who I'd play. I think there's a good case for gestede as a physical threat at home in these sort of games. He's done well in them this season so far.
Maybe as follows - but depends on training really which we can't be privy to
Gollini / bunn
De laet elphick Chester cissokho
Adomah Jedi / Tish westy ayew
Gestede kodjia
Subs: steer / bunn baker bacuna baker Tish / Jedi grealish McCormack
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3-1 Villa
Gestede, Kodjia, Grealish
I would go 3-5-2, with Baker coming in at the back, Jedinak and Tshibola into midfield if fit, Amavi and De Laet out wide and a front 3 of Ayew, Gestede and Kodjia, bringing Jack and McCormack on when they tire.
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An easy win, please. Make sure a couple of those agonising misses end up over the line this time.
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A win. Don't care how.
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Both teams will score, we will do one more than them. The run begins.
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Straight-forward Villa victory...2-0 and so the inevitable rise begins...
- music starts around 12 secs.
Ha! That's a blast from the past. I still know all the words but the intro took me by surprise which isn't strange considering I haven't heard it for over 40 years. It's one 7" in my box that stays there. Maybe/hopefully I'll dig it out again in May 2017.
Marvellous. I've got that somewhere, as well!
Anyone got a copy of 'Play Aston Villa' (early 80s)?
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3-1 Villa
Gestede, Kodjia, Grealish
I would go 3-5-2, with Baker coming in at the back, Jedinak and Tshibola into midfield if fit, Amavi and De Laet out wide and a front 3 of Ayew, Gestede and Kodjia, bringing Jack and McCormack on when they tire.
352 with a front 3
Wouldn't that be 343? 🤔🤔🤔
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4-0
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Straight-forward Villa victory...2-0 and so the inevitable rise begins...
- music starts around 12 secs.
Ha! That's a blast from the past. I still know all the words but the intro took me by surprise which isn't strange considering I haven't heard it for over 40 years. It's one 7" in my box that stays there. Maybe/hopefully I'll dig it out again in May 2017.
7" in your box you say?
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Someone is due a tonking and I fucking hope we don't hit the bloody woodwork again. Early days it may be but I think this is must win. If we want to stay within sniffing distance of the top 6 we need to win. In our position, with our fragility, lagging too far behind would be a disaster.
3-1.
Kodija
Ayew
Big Rudy.
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Not so confident after their result at Brighton but then the Seagulls were poor. 3-1 Villa I hope.
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Not so confident after their result at Brighton but then the Seagulls were poor. 3-1 Villa I hope.
Once we start believing in ourselves, take our chances and make the most of our periods of dominence we will shit on most of this league I feel. Newcastle likely will too. Cut the sloppiness and just try and make things easier for ourselves. That extends to RDM too, who showed a lot of naivity once we went 2-1 up. He took a big gamble leaving just one CM on the pitch. It paid off in turning the game round but at that point we should have put someone else in there, either Jed or Leandro to provide more presence without having to necessarily lose the front foot. He won't make that mistake again.
And lets get ruthless now.
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Hoping for a win but, when teams are announced and I hear those two terrible words, Westwood & Gardner, my heart will sink once again. Don't you think it has the same effect on the other players in the team? If those two start displaying any Italian tendencies, we will know there's more to it than meets the eye!!!
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Quite incredible that many of us, including myself, aren't confident of a home win against Brentford.
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I've added a poll as Dave was too slack to do it!
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A bigger demolition you'll not see this season. Aston Villa 7 (seven) Brentford 0
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3-1 Villa
Gestede, Kodjia, Grealish
I would go 3-5-2, with Baker coming in at the back, Jedinak and Tshibola into midfield if fit, Amavi and De Laet out wide and a front 3 of Ayew, Gestede and Kodjia, bringing Jack and McCormack on when they tire.
352 with a front 3
Wouldn't that be 343? 🤔🤔🤔
Ayew would be kind of advanced midfield ;-)
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Another close game that could go either way and that's what I like about this division.
Brentford like to play so it should be worth seeing and I'm looking forward to it.
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Think we could do with a bit of a change to shake things up a bit. Any news on Tshibola, Jedinak and Adomah?
I know Ayew has had a bit of criticism on here recently, but he does add that big of spark when he gets into central areas. I would quite like to see him play behind a front two of Kodjia and either McCormack or Gestede on Wednesday and maybe have an extra body in midfield, with a Jedinak sitting just in front of the defence if fit.
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Think things will come good finally. 2-0
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2-0 the march up the league begins Wednesday.
UTV!
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Couple of changes in midfield and things will start to take shape. 2-0.
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Quite incredible that many of us, including myself, aren't confident of a home win against Brentford.
Not really, Sky's "expert" also predicts an away win
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We just need to win a game, I don't care if we play well. We've been doing that. Now we have to grind something out before this gets away from us.
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With the same midfield as Sunday it's squeaky bum time - one of the proper players there and we win by 2 goals - this prediction lark is easy!
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Will Gollini be fit for Wednesday? I would feel far less confident if Bunn was in goal.
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Think I only know one of their players; Judge.
Otherwise they are a bit of an unknown quantity.
Judge is currently out with a broken leg.
They are an inconsistent, young team who have tightened it up defensively this season while still playing good football. They have a good striker in Scott Hogan and don't really have any obvious weak links throughout the side.
Ta Badminton.
Had a quick look at their squad and the odd name sounds familiar. In particular McEachran; ex-Chelsea tiny midfielder.
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I think we are due a decent win given the amount of chances we created against Forest, so a 4-0 home win.
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I hope we win but I'm going for a 1-1 draw.
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I think we're going to be surprised by Brentford. They're a better away side than Forest but if we put our chances away then they won't live with us. By no means confident though.
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2-1 to the Villla
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I'm hoping it all clicks for us and we give them a pasting. Depends on availability of a few such as Jedinak and Grealish, but if we have our best players available then we've a good chance of seeing a few goals.
I'll go 3-1.
I know things are different these days, but we've completely overhauled the side and its Brentford we're talking about here.
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Think I only know one of their players; Judge.
Otherwise they are a bit of an unknown quantity.
Judge is currently out with a broken leg.
They are an inconsistent, young team who have tightened it up defensively this season while still playing good football. They have a good striker in Scott Hogan and don't really have any obvious weak links throughout the side.
Ta Badminton.
Had a quick look at their squad and the odd name sounds familiar. In particular McEachran; ex-Chelsea tiny midfielder.
McEachran doesn't get a kick in this side at the minute. They play Woods and Yennaris as their two central midfielders and both are dynamic and able to pass the ball. McEachran is lightweight and unlikely to ever flourish, particularly in the Championship.
It's likely they will give a first start to Sullay Kaikai on loan from Palace. I think the way they are likely to score is by Villa pushing their full-backs up the pitch and becoming exposed in transition. Macleod and Sawyers are clever players and Hogan doesn't need many chances to make the opposition pay.
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Need a win and we will get it 3 - 1.
Gollini, De Laet, Elphick, Chester, Cissokho. Ayew, Westwood, Jedinak, Grealish, Mccormack, Kodija
Bunn, Baker, Amavi , Gardner, Bacuna, Tshibola, Adamoah, Gestede
Serious competition for places now in the attacking 4 particularly. Bacuna and Gestede have played well this season but can't get in and we haven't seen enough of Amavi, Tshibola and Adamoah just yet. The worry is that Jedinak and Westwood aren't the most mobile and will have to cover a lot of ground. Still it's the strongest squad we have had since the MON days I reckon.
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5-2
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Brentford Nylons
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Villa win, has to be, away form is patchy, I ain't been that convinced by Brighton this year
Villa 4-0
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We look bang average in the middle of the park with either Westwood and Gardner in there (never mind both of them!) so would want to see Jedinak and Tshibola in there if fit.
Other than that I wouldn't be looking to make any changes from the side that started against Forest.
Strengthen the midfield and I can see us coming out comfortable winners; I'll go 3-1 McCormack, Kdojia and Ayew.
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Brentford Nylons
There was a Birmingham band called Brent Ford and the Nylons. Lead Singer John Mostyn is credited with discovering Inner City which is ace, and Ocean Colour Scene, which isn't.
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4-0
It's time.
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These fucker is gonna get fucked, 5 1 cos I don't think we'll keep a clean sheet anytime soon!
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Will Gollini be fit for Wednesday? I would feel far less confident if Bunn was in goal.
At the match I thought Bunn could have done better for their first, I saw it again today for the first time. He couldn't have done, it was a great goal.
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I refuse to look at the league table at the moment for two reasons. Firstly it's disappointing and secondly it in no way reflects the quality of our team. It's time to start getting results that reflect the talent we have, beginning with a win tomorrow.
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Dean Smith's a Villa fan isn't he?
Did a really good job at Walsall and after a dodgy spell has got Brentford just outside the play offs where they'll probably finish the season.
Brentford will come and attack and play football so I reckon that's good opponents for us to get an overdue win as we'll have more space to work with in the final third then Forest game.
3-1 win.
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the table will probably look even worse for us later tonight so I'm definitely not looking
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Simple, any win will do, we need the season kick starting
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Start of our season 4-0
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Jedinak is back. Tshibola might be too, as could Adomah.
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Good.
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I had a dream we lose this one 1-5. But then again I've also had a dream about a night of wild abandon with Penelope Cruz so my track record is a bit rubbish.
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After last night's results we do really need to get on with it and if our midfield includes the Jedi or Tish I think we have enough quality up front to start a run.
2-0 Villa.
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I didn't realise quite how good brentford's form has been - won 10 out of the last 15, w 3 defeats
Don't think this is the game we steam roller someone
Any sort of win will do - and please god some luck wouldn't go amiss. Genuinely can't think of much we've had this season at all
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I don't think we will steamroller anybody until confidence is flowing.
I fully expect us to create 15/16 chances and enough to batter Brentford, but we won't put them away.
2-0 or 2-1 win. Which is perfectly fine by me.
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Just read the above stats for Brentford - now not so confident 1-1 draw for me
if we don't win tonight then the pressure on RDM will start to mount for him
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Might take my lad to his first game tonight. He's 8 now and I didn't want to expose him to the atmosphere last season.
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Dean Smith, Villa fan managing the opposition. What could possibly go wrong......??
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I don't think we will steamroller anybody until confidence is flowing.
I fully expect us to create 15/16 chances and enough to batter Brentford, but we won't put them away.
2-0 or 2-1 win. Which is perfectly fine by me.
Any win will do here, we just need to win.
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Not only do we need to get in the habit of grinding out a win, any win, but we must also get in the habit of doing it week after week. I actually think we'll get the win tonight. 2-1.
The next step is consistency, and that will also take time to achieve. Our new midfield pairing of Jedinak and Tshibola haven't played a single game together yet. That's not going to click immediately. Which is why I don't expect us to go flying up the table any time soon.
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We play like we did Sunday with a stronger midfield and I can see only one outcome. Slaughter!
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Crowd looks very similar to the Forest game on the online seating plan. However Forest sold out 2800, I doubt Brentford will bring that many.
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If the weather is as promised I can see a lot of spur of the moment attendees.
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Might take my lad to his first game tonight. He's 8 now and I didn't want to expose him to the atmosphere last season.
Was about the same age when I went to my first game. Evening matches are a good choice. Will never forget the feeling of seeing the pitch under the floodlights for the first time 8)
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Crowd looks very similar to the Forest game on the online seating plan. However Forest sold out 2800, I doubt Brentford will bring that many.
30,000 on a midweek night aint bad, apart from the Geordies no other team in the division will get that many for a midweek game this season.
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Home win. 3-0.
Jonny Todger hat-trick.
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Win - and we could go 15th
15th!
So let's bloody win it!
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3-2 to Villa with a few nails bitten in the last few minutes.
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sadly cannot make tonight due to work commitments :(
so I will go for a routine 2 nil win for the Villa
J.Ayew 11mins and R.McCormack 59mins
UTV
The Doc
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This will not be on telly I assume. Any ideas on where to listen?
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Win - and we could go 15th
15th!
So let's bloody win it!
Win tonight and we're just one win outside the play-offs.
(You'd never know I work in advertising)
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This will not be on telly I assume. Any ideas on where to listen?
there will be full commentary on radio 5 live sports extra.
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This will not be on telly I assume. Any ideas on where to listen?
there will be full commentary on radio 5 live sports extra.
Thanks
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This will not be on telly I assume. Any ideas on where to listen?
there will be full commentary on radio 5 live sports extra.
Thanks
And thanks from me !
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This will not be on telly I assume. Any ideas on where to listen?
there will be full commentary on radio 5 live sports extra.
Thanks
And thanks from me !
And from me!
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This will not be on telly I assume. Any ideas on where to listen?
there will be full commentary on radio 5 live sports extra.
Don't want to worry anyone but the Forest match was on national radio on Sunday!
Thanks
And thanks from me !
And from me!
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Not a ST holder this season but have just decided to get tickets for tonight to go up after work, with the attacking options we have we will put a few past someone soon! 3-1 or 3-2 Villa tonight (conceding a 2nd late on to make it nervy would be true Villa style).
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We need to keep pace with Newcastle, 9 points behind them already need to cut it back to 6 tonight. They have a new team too pretty much but have settled much faster.
Same level of performance as Forest in the second half and we beat Brentford handy.
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Crowd looks very similar to the Forest game on the online seating plan. However Forest sold out 2800, I doubt Brentford will bring that many.
30,000 on a midweek night aint bad, apart from the Geordies no other team in the division will get that many for a midweek game this season.
People bang on about how many Leeds get, 19K last night.
Brentford have sold just under 2000 tickets apparently.
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Crowd looks very similar to the Forest game on the online seating plan. However Forest sold out 2800, I doubt Brentford will bring that many.
30,000 on a midweek night aint bad, apart from the Geordies no other team in the division will get that many for a midweek game this season.
People bang on about how many Leeds get, 19K last night.
Brentford have sold just under 2000 tickets apparently.
Ticket prices are crucial in that regard.. I didn't think 20 quid for adults was too bad for tonight - with >£15 for concessions and minors. A Norwich-supporting friend of mine said their base category adult tickets are minimum £30 this season!
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Offer more cheap tickets and we will come. That said, offering big discounts once people have forked out for season tickets will always cause problems
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Tickets aren't discounted though. It's just the match day prices. Only the Lower North is £20 tonight.
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Holte is too, I've got an adult kid combo that came up as £20 and £10
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That might be a combo offer, single tickets for Lower Holte are £23 wings and £25 the rest. Dunno about the Upper as didn't check those.
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Yes, just checked it's under the "offers and packages" tab.
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Stuck in Birkenhead waiting for a 2 o clock hearing. Getting nervous about being late!
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Stuck in Birkenhead waiting for a 2 o clock hearing. Getting nervous about being late!
Easier run down the M56 though, I always found it quicker leaving Liverpool through the tunnel and out that way.
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Just checked the match odds. H/T F/T Villa Draw at 13/1 is tempting.
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Just checked the match odds. H/T F/T Villa Draw at 13/1 is tempting.
That's a good shout, happened against Huddersfield and we do have a habit of coming out first half and then being made to pay for missed chances by the end. Just had a couple of quid on this at 14/1 on B365.
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I have been trying to get out of town for about an hour now. Bloody traffic.
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Me and the lad are going in the Witton wings by the Holte, was not able to get seats a fancied in the Holte itself. Hopefully he enjoys it enough to go again. And again.... and of course that he's a lucky charm!!!
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Banking at every betting-site that we going to destroy them!!
This is the day that Villa stops letting us down after years of abuse and shape up, shed the losing culture and start marching back to where they belong! The line is here...today! 18th in the Championship. That's a far as it goes. It ends now! Brentford will suffer the wrath for Sunday, for the poor start, for last year, for last years! and they will cover in fear of that Villa Juggernaut onslaught that starts rolling tonight!
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Banking at every betting-site that we going to destroy them!!
This is the day that Villa stops letting us down after years of abuse and shape up, shed the losing culture and start marching back to where they belong! The line is here...today! 18th in the Championship. That's a far as it goes. It ends now! Brentford will suffer the wrath for Sunday, for the poor start, for last year, for last years! and they will cover in fear of that Villa Juggernaut onslaught that starts rolling tonight!
I am going to lose my shirt tonight, right? :-\
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Enjoy, Ozzjim. My first game was a Division II game where we won 2-1. My son's first game was a 2-1 win too.
My prediction for tonight; a 2-1 Villa win.
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Good luck to you and your lad Ozzjim. Need a win tonight!
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We all know we've been desperately unlucky to not have picked up more than just the 1 win at home so far this season. We must win tonight and I feel like we win.
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Crowd looks very similar to the Forest game on the online seating plan. However Forest sold out 2800, I doubt Brentford will bring that many.
30,000 on a midweek night aint bad, apart from the Geordies no other team in the division will get that many for a midweek game this season.
People bang on about how many Leeds get, 19K last night.
Brentford have sold just under 2000 tickets apparently.
Ticket prices are crucial in that regard.. I didn't think 20 quid for adults was too bad for tonight - with >£15 for concessions and minors. A Norwich-supporting friend of mine said their base category adult tickets are minimum £30 this season!
I agree with you there, our ticket prices are still great relative to the norm for English football at this level.
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Any news on Adomah/Tish injuries? As much as I think we could win with the same central midfield we played at the weekend, I'd rather not have to risk it.
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Gestede, Kodjia, Ayew and McCormack start, Jedinal and Westwood in midfield, fuxk knows what formation that is.
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Banking at every betting-site that we going to destroy them!!
This is the day that Villa stops letting us down after years of abuse and shape up, shed the losing culture and start marching back to where they belong! The line is here...today! 18th in the Championship. That's a far as it goes. It ends now! Brentford will suffer the wrath for Sunday, for the poor start, for last year, for last years! and they will cover in fear of that Villa Juggernaut onslaught that starts rolling tonight!
I am going to lose my shirt tonight, right? :-\
No mate. We'll do 'em.