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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on March 05, 2016, 04:34:17 PM
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I think we might be in a little bit of trouble...
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Don't forget to snap up your tickets for Spurs at home!
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A little surprised how poor City have been. Not a great side.
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same old, same old
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We were lucky it was only 4.
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Does it really matter any more?
It's just become routine.
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What a pathetic group we've got.
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gana did ok, the rest did nothing
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LTA not appeared yet?
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Boot. Human face. Forever.
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Need to win our next twelve games............
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We've got a lovely bunch of useless ******
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It's early March and the maximum points we can get this season is 43.
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Need to win our next twelve games............
I wouldn't bet on us to complete 12 consecutive passes, let alone victories.
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I still cannot believe how Bacuna got on the pitch. It's a bit like coming home to find your house on fire and phoning the RSPCA.
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I said I'd take 4-0 in the pre match thread so on that basis not too humiliating.
I think we'll end up With the record amount of goals conceded in the prem.
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Need to win our next twelve games............
I wouldn't bet on us to complete 12 consecutive passes, let alone victories.
Oh so negative!
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Another match day, another humiliation. Fuck off Lerner.
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"We're keeping season tickets at the same price so YOU the fans can help US in our victorious return to the Premier League"
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I still cannot believe how Bacuna got on the pitch. It's a bit like coming home to find your house on fire and phoning the RSPCA.
and saying "And bring some fire with you"
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Last desperate act should be sack Garde now and appoint Pearson.
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there are no words anymore
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David Ginola is making a passionate speech live on Canal +. He is speaking as one of us. He says that the players are to blame, this great club doesn't deserve this. He says he will not congratulate Citeh for beating Aston Villa 4-0 because the players are not doing their jobs. He feels for Rémi who came to accomplish something but has not been backed.
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They took it easy on us, I predicted 5-0 so a moral victory for us.
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I'm so sick of wasting time watching this utter shower and have literally no idea how some people actually pay money for the privilege.
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I still cannot believe how Bacuna got on the pitch. It's a bit like coming home to find your house on fire and phoning the RSPCA.
We didn't concede after he came on. #brilliantbacuna #bacunatosaveus
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Id like to see an updated table of league team's points per game over last 5 years. It must be the worst football team to support in history over this period
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I still cannot believe how Bacuna got on the pitch. It's a bit like coming home to find your house on fire and phoning the RSPCA.
and saying "And bring some fire with you"
"Hello, is that Shell... ?"
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Boot. Human face. Forever.
If you want a vision of Aston Villa... Orwell loves the Villa, Orwell loves the Villa!
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Disappointed. I think we might be going down this season.
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Last desperate act should be sack Garde now and appoint Pearson.
McClaren will be available tomorrow.
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Abject and utter shite*.
*Are names of players we should've picked up in the January window.
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About what i was expecting.
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Could we be any worse if didn't have a manager for the rest of the season?
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Has any established premiership club ever gone into a nose dive like this?
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9 cup finals
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Disappointed. I think we might be going down this season.
Get a grip!
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The only feint, tiny spark of something maybe to be happy about - the possibility of dragging the geordies down with us on the last day of the season.
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Bloody Aguero and his missed penalty - I had him captained in my Fantasy Footie team!
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We've lost 4 in a row and taken 3 points out of 18, and are still only 9 points from safety. Considering how gash the 3 above us are it's taking a special level of shitness to be in this position.
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The only feint, tiny spark of something maybe to be happy about - the possibility of dragging the geordies down with us on the last day of the season.
Oh they're going. They are every bit a shambles as we are. And that's on top of lashing out £30m in the window. They will fire McLaren tomorrow I imagine but that dressing room is every bit as split as ours with absolutely no leadership at the top. When the club is filled with finger pointers you get Aston Villa and Newcastle.
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what a time to be alive!!
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If the Geordies's need 3 points in the last game of the season to stay up then they can breathe easily.
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I couldn't help but glance at the table at half time, and was surprised to see we were still only & points from safety. It shows that if we had just fluked a win and a draw from somewhere earlier this season we'd still be in it. It shows that in a season with 3 of the worst teams in memory in Newcastle, Sunderland and Norwich we will be cut adrift at the bottom. Embarrassing.
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The only feint, tiny spark of something maybe to be happy about - the possibility of dragging the geordies down with us on the last day of the season.
That's what I'm clinging to. It'll be like when psychopath prisoners smear themselves in their own shit before attacking the warders.
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Piss poor 2nd half with Keystone Cop defending. Sell them all.
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The only feint, tiny spark of something maybe to be happy about - the possibility of dragging the geordies down with us on the last day of the season.
Last home game you mean?
Last game is Arsenal away. Kind of fitting as that was the first game under Lerner, when we thought it would be so different.
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Gana had completely given up by the end. Was just strolling round not even pretending to try.
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MON would no doubt comment, "I thought we played some scintillating football at times and feel unlucky to come away without our share of the points".
The reality is we are useless and deserved nothing. Worse than that, we went out of our way to make it easier for them. It's incredible to think we spent £50m last summer. We'd be lucky to get £25m for the whole squad today.
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The only feint, tiny spark of something maybe to be happy about - the possibility of dragging the geordies down with us on the last day of the season.
Last home game you mean?
Last game is Arsenal away. Kind of fitting as that was the first game under Lerner, when we thought it would be so different.
I remember being in the away end that day, chanting "Villa are back, Villa are back" as M.O.N and the players came over at the end. Bright future....
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The only feint, tiny spark of something maybe to be happy about - the possibility of dragging the geordies down with us on the last day of the season.
That's what I'm clinging to. It'll be like when psychopath prisoners smear themselves in their own shit before attacking the warders.
That's the best post Villa match post in a while
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Who cares?
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9 cup finals
We'll lose 36-0 on aggregate based on our last cup final.
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Bloody hell 19 defeats in 29 league games. Jesus wept.
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Nice message on Twitter from Man City about how good our supporters were today.
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Nice message on Twitter from Man City about how good our supporters were today.
89. Credit to the @AVFCOfficial fans who've not stopped singing all afternoon. Not easy for them, as #mcfc fans of a certain age will know!
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Bloody hell 19 defeats in 29 league games. Jesus wept.
If you include last season, it's 21 defeats in 31 league games 😳
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6 fucking years notice you have had Mr Lerner.... SIX years .... for you to get it right and you have still fucked it up. How could you do that ....
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Gana had completely given up by the end. Was just strolling round not even pretending to try.
I noticed that. Fucking disgusting, but a reflection of the club. It can't be arsed.
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Oh they're going. They are every bit a shambles as we are. And that's on top of lashing out £30m in the window. They will fire McLaren tomorrow I imagine but that dressing room is every bit as split as ours with absolutely no leadership at the top. When the club is filled with finger pointers you get Aston Villa and Newcastle.
Both clubs with transfer committees. Both clubs with the brainwave of "lets concentrate on Ligue 1 - they're cheap and they have great value players". Genius.
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Defeated before a ball was kicked. No psychological strength at all. The team, management, board and owner have all given up. The fans I hope will never give up.
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The only feint, tiny spark of something maybe to be happy about - the possibility of dragging the geordies down with us on the last day of the season.
Which would instantly decrease our chances of coming back up.
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Defeated before a ball was kicked. No psychological strength at all. The team, management, board and owner have all given up. The fans I hope will never give up.
The fans are the only positive about our club still left. I really feel for all those that made the effort to go today.
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Gana aside that was just shit. As expected. really struggling to see where the next point is coming from.
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Just checked the score and felt relieved it was just 4-0
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The only feint, tiny spark of something maybe to be happy about - the possibility of dragging the geordies down with us on the last day of the season.
Which would instantly decrease our chances of coming back up.
We'll have much bigger problems than Newcastle to contend with in the Championship. Most of them within B6.
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The only feint, tiny spark of something maybe to be happy about - the possibility of dragging the geordies down with us on the last day of the season.
Which would instantly decrease our chances of coming back up.
We'll have much bigger problems than Newcastle to contend with in the Championship. Most of them within B6.
He's been much maligned since his arrival, but it is time for Hollis to start acting. He needs to be proactive and making changes ASAP.
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The only feint, tiny spark of something maybe to be happy about - the possibility of dragging the geordies down with us on the last day of the season.
Which would instantly decrease our chances of coming back up.
This club has NO CHANCE of comming back up anytime soon. Losing is too ingrained in these players, especially those who've been here for years. And if/when we did/do get back and Lerner is still here, we will be exactly back where we are now, pretending we shop at Harrods but actually shopping at Poundland.
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Totally numb to the whole thing now. The only point I now look out for is to see how many goals the other side have scored - the rest is sadly predictable.
Anyway, I'm just about to watch Watford vs Leicester - two poxy clubs with mediocre players who are both doing very well. Good organisation on and off the pitch, great team ethic and players who aren't scared of their own shadows. Unlike watching Villa, it's nice to start a match without knowing that it will be a humiliating trouncing.
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This proves how much of a donkey Bacuna really is.
(http://i66.tinypic.com/svnzgi.jpg)
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This proves how much of a donkey Bacuna really is.
(http://i66.tinypic.com/svnzgi.jpg)
Is he on meth?
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Totally numb to the whole thing now. The only point I now look out for is to see how many goals the other side have scored - the rest is sadly predictable.
Anyway, I'm just about to watch Watford vs Leicester - two poxy clubs with mediocre players who are both doing very well. Good organisation on and off the pitch, great team ethic and players who aren't scared of their own shadows. Unlike watching Villa, it's nice to start a match without knowing that it will be a humiliating trouncing.
Yep, I'm watching Dortmund v Bayern. It's just nice to see a game where either side is actually capable of winning.
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This proves how much of a donkey Bacuna really is.
(http://i66.tinypic.com/svnzgi.jpg)
Beautiful example of how they can't even get the very basic things right, AFVC...
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Meh.
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What continues to make this worse for me is that the teams around us keep losing as well. It makes our January surrender even more galling. If we'd have picked up two or three more wins since the window closed we could be out of the bottom three. It's unforgivable.
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Thought we did ok first half but the first goal killed us like it was always going to. Predictable in the way it turned out.
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The only feint, tiny spark of something maybe to be happy about - the possibility of dragging the geordies down with us on the last day of the season.
That's what I'm clinging to. It'll be like when psychopath prisoners smear themselves in their own shit before attacking the warders.
No wonder Bobby Sands MP was a Villa fan.
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I note with interest that Micah Richards featured prominently in all 4 goals. You have to admit that he doesn't do things by halves.
On the other hand, it all happened in the second half. Oh well.
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The thing is, it's all too easy for the club and the players now.
Everyone knows we are down.
The club knows we are down.
The players know we are down.
No one expects us to get anything from ANY game so the players have got an easy ride.
They don't have to even bother going through the motions of trying to win a game, and fuck me aren't they good at it?
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What continues to make this worse for me is that the teams around us keep losing as well. It makes our January surrender even more galling. If we'd have picked up two or three more wins since the window closed we could be out of the bottom three. It's unforgivable.
Completely agree.
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The villa badge should be removed from the shirt for the rest of the remaining games they have just given up
I can't think of a worse team since I started going in 68
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Only 2 things annoyed me today. Firstly Richards was picked ( note I didn't say play) and secondly Bacuna came on. Jimmy Armfield said that there is already a division between these 2 clubs and he is right. Look at the cost of their squad and ours. Realistically we didn't have a chance. However other teams 'realistically ' should have had no chance against them but through better management and commitment they have got results against them.
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Going back to their first goal, was it going out for a corner before Gabby kicked it into the stand or a goal kick?
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What continues to make this worse for me is that the teams around us keep losing as well. It makes our January surrender even more galling. If we'd have picked up two or three more wins since the window closed we could be out of the bottom three. It's unforgivable.
Completely agree.
Just shows how naive our Chairman, CEO etc are
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What continues to make this worse for me is that the teams around us keep losing as well. It makes our January surrender even more galling. If we'd have picked up two or three more wins since the window closed we could be out of the bottom three. It's unforgivable.
Completely agree.
Yup maddening.
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What continues to make this worse for me is that the teams around us keep losing as well. It makes our January surrender even more galling. If we'd have picked up two or three more wins since the window closed we could be out of the bottom three. It's unforgivable.
Completely agree.
Yes this is my view as well.
Despite our appalling form, we're still not much further adrift than we were in January.
The owner shows a continuing unforgivable dereliction of duty, the board are unforgivable, the players are unforgivable (albeit untalented), and in the last month the manager as well ..unforgivable.
I don't want to see any of them at the club next season.
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Apparantly Richards has a £5mil release clause , frankly if anyone watching him this season thinks he is worth that then good fucking luck.He is ab absolute liability I have no clue , not at all why he continues to be picked he offers the sweet FA.
Gana again ran himself into the ground but had zero help.The midfield as it has been for years is far to lightweight as as ever is always bullied off the ball.Sanchez is only player in there with strength so despite is dwaddling on the ball at times is a big miss.
Lescott gets abuse but again he is the one defender holding it all together the rest of them were all over the show.Clark produced his usual poor tackling giving away a pen.
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In the eyes of the board any money we spend on players going forward will resemble a gamble. The problem is none of them are gamblers. They only understand spreadsheets and cash flow forecasts. Putting forward a business plan to spend money on players will be beyond their understanding. Like any business you do have to balance the books long term but football is not like a lot of businesses and therefore you need to employ people who know how football works. That could well be where we are going wrong perhaps.
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there are no words anymore
Last desperate act should be sack Garde now and appoint Pearson.
I agree but not his fault at all. Clutching at straws saying Pearson too as don't particularly like him but who else knows the championship in detail that is also available !?
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I don't understand why any manager 'has to know the Championship'?
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there are no words anymore
Last desperate act should be sack Garde now and appoint Pearson.
I agree but not his fault at all. Clutching at straws saying Pearson too as don't particularly like him but who else knows the championship in detail that is also available !?
If ever a squad is deserving of the Pearson touch it's this shower. If I didn't care i'd take a peverse pleasure in it. I could daydream about him screaming into Flabby or Bacuna's grid daily.
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Players may deserve Pearson, but the fans don't deserve having that absolute tool in charge of Aston Villa.
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Indeed, we've had more than our fair share of tools these last 10 years.
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Players may deserve Pearson, but the fans don't deserve having that absolute tool in charge of Aston Villa.
We have a massive box to fit all our tools in ( Pat Mustard).
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Players may deserve Pearson, but the fans don't deserve having that absolute tool in charge of Aston Villa.
The more desperate the club's position gets the more desperate the fans get, so I find it understandable some call for Pearson.
If we had anything about us we'd go cap in hand to Moyes in the summer, but I'm dreaming with that one. It ain't gonna happen and we'll end up with another nobody who is willing to work under Lerner's austerity.
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I'd rather Pearson than Moyes. At least it'd be interesting. I'm still hoping Remi will stay and rebuild in his own way.
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I note with interest that Micah Richards featured prominently in all 4 goals. You have to admit that he doesn't do things by halves.
On the other hand, it all happened in the second half. Oh well.
Brilliant.
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Pearson or Pulis are 2 of the very few managers that could make me stop going to games.
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Well Pulis has stopped quite a few albion fans going to games and they are used to shit.
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Not sure what fans expect. This is just desserts for years of mis-management at the top. Keep firing managers in the hope the "next" one will reverse fortunes, and we shall keep dropping like a stone. Pearson, Pulis ..... Guardiola, Mourinho - they will all fail under this regime.
The ONLY solution to our ails is a change of ownership. That isn't going to happen soon, which is why we are in a whole world of trouble irrespective who the manager is.
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I really don't get the outpouring of contempt for Bacuna. he is severely limited, yes, but that is his only fault. He does try and does put in a shift. But is just out of his depth. My contempt would be saved for those I expect better from but are constantly letting us down by cheating. Richards, Lescott, Gabby etc I like Bacuna but he isn't good enough for this nor the next division. That alone doesn't warrant an outburst of hate.
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Pearson or Pulis are 2 of the very few managers that could make me stop going to games.
I honestly don't mind Pearson that much. He went a bit loopy last season but he's done a decent job wherever else he's been I think. Pulis would be horrible.
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Only Sunderland would be dumb enough to pay £5m for Richards after this season of horror but they might be going down as well so....
If we recoup his £3.1m wages in the summer, I'd count that as good business.
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Pearson or Pulis are 2 of the very few managers that could make me stop going to games.
I honestly don't mind Pearson that much. He went a bit loopy last season but he's done a decent job wherever else he's been I think. Pulis would be horrible.
I don't think he's a bad manager, I just think he's a nasty piece of work. As shit as we are, I expect us to be better than employing a walking timebomb as manager. Let's not forget he told his own fans to fuck off and die, a number of press bust ups including calling a reporter a prick, grabbing an opposition player by the neck.
It's a firm no from me to that scumbag.
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I really don't get the outpouring of contempt for Bacuna. he is severely limited, yes, but that is his only fault. He does try and does put in a shift. But is just out of his depth. My contempt would be saved for those I expect better from but are constantly letting us down by cheating. Richards, Lescott, Gabby etc I like Bacuna but he isn't good enough for this nor the next division. That alone doesn't warrant an outburst of hate.
Alan Hutton is a limited footballer who puts in a shift, Bacuna on the other hand I've never seen break into a sprint and comes off the field with cleaner shorts than he starts with.
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There was a moment in the second half where Ayew broke and that fat waste of space Gabby was waddling forwards 30 yards behind the play. I nearly shouted up a kidney in anger.
I hope I never have to endure Gabby, Westwood, Clark or Bacuna in a Villa shirt again.
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Don't understand why Pullis and Pearson are always the only names mentioned as future manager's. Have i missed something?
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Don't understand why Pullis and Pearson are always the only names mentioned as future manager's. Have i missed something?
We'll manage to employ someone worse than the above that's for sure.
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Pearson or Pulis are 2 of the very few managers that could make me stop going to games.
I honestly don't mind Pearson that much. He went a bit loopy last season but he's done a decent job wherever else he's been I think. Pulis would be horrible.
I don't think he's a bad manager, I just think he's a nasty piece of work. As shit as we are, I expect us to be better than employing a walking timebomb as manager. Let's not forget he told his own fans to fuck off and die, a number of press bust ups including calling a reporter a prick, grabbing an opposition player by the neck.
It's a firm no from me to that scumbag.
I dunno, I'd like to see Villa have a bit of mongrel for a change. I'm sick of us being the super-nice, super-accommodating, "more tea, vicar?" pushovers that we are.
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Shit, even this message board is showing me "GO DOWN" every time I try to move to another page...:(
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Talking to a City fan in the Piccadilly tavern before the game who said this is his last season he's not renewing he is fed up with it all being about money no passion the stadiums shit the fans are soulless and he's of to watch Atrincham
so stop moaning you miserable bastards it could be worse we could be City
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The only feint, tiny spark of something maybe to be happy about - the possibility of dragging the geordies down with us on the last day of the season.
That's what I'm clinging to. It'll be like when psychopath prisoners smear themselves in their own shit before attacking the warders.
Made my day reading that. Genuinely spat some tea out.
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The only feint, tiny spark of something maybe to be happy about - the possibility of dragging the geordies down with us on the last day of the season.
That's what I'm clinging to. It'll be like when psychopath prisoners smear themselves in their own shit before attacking the warders.
Made my day reading that. Genuinely spat some tea out.
Or is that some posters going way over the top.
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Talking to a City fan in the Piccadilly tavern before the game who said this is his last season he's not renewing he is fed up with it all being about money no passion the stadiums shit the fans are soulless and he's of to watch Atrincham
so stop moaning you miserable bastards it could be worse we could be City
Yes please!
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Players may deserve Pearson, but the fans don't deserve having that absolute tool in charge of Aston Villa.
I don't think Pearson would come anyway with this regime in charge. He is not a 'yes' man (like Lambert & Garde) and would probably have walked after not being backed in January.
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Talking to a City fan in the Piccadilly tavern before the game who said this is his last season he's not renewing he is fed up with it all being about money no passion the stadiums shit the fans are soulless and he's of to watch Atrincham
so stop moaning you miserable bastards it could be worse we could be City
Joking aside, something like what's happened to City would be far more likely to kill me as a supporter, not our current crapness or a relegation or three.
Probably
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Pearson or Pulis are 2 of the very few managers that could make me stop going to games.
I honestly don't mind Pearson that much. He went a bit loopy last season but he's done a decent job wherever else he's been I think. Pulis would be horrible.
I don't think he's a bad manager, I just think he's a nasty piece of work. As shit as we are, I expect us to be better than employing a walking timebomb as manager. Let's not forget he told his own fans to fuck off and die, a number of press bust ups including calling a reporter a prick, grabbing an opposition player by the neck.
It's a firm no from me to that scumbag.
Yeah and Remi's a gentleman and look where that's got us. We'd be lucky to find a manager better qualified than Pearson to take us back up.
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Pearson or Pulis are 2 of the very few managers that could make me stop going to games.
I honestly don't mind Pearson that much. He went a bit loopy last season but he's done a decent job wherever else he's been I think. Pulis would be horrible.
I don't think he's a bad manager, I just think he's a nasty piece of work. As shit as we are, I expect us to be better than employing a walking timebomb as manager. Let's not forget he told his own fans to fuck off and die, a number of press bust ups including calling a reporter a prick, grabbing an opposition player by the neck.
It's a firm no from me to that scumbag.
Yeah and Remi's a gentleman and look where that's got us. We'd be lucky to find a manager better qualified than Pearson to take us back up.
I suppose you'd have Adam Johnson in the team as well.
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Pearson or Pulis are 2 of the very few managers that could make me stop going to games.
I honestly don't mind Pearson that much. He went a bit loopy last season but he's done a decent job wherever else he's been I think. Pulis would be horrible.
I don't think he's a bad manager, I just think he's a nasty piece of work. As shit as we are, I expect us to be better than employing a walking timebomb as manager. Let's not forget he told his own fans to fuck off and die, a number of press bust ups including calling a reporter a prick, grabbing an opposition player by the neck.
It's a firm no from me to that scumbag.
Yeah and Remi's a gentleman and look where that's got us. We'd be lucky to find a manager better qualified than Pearson to take us back up.
I suppose you'd have Adam Johnson in the team as well.
What's that supposed to mean?
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Pearson or Pulis are 2 of the very few managers that could make me stop going to games.
I honestly don't mind Pearson that much. He went a bit loopy last season but he's done a decent job wherever else he's been I think. Pulis would be horrible.
I don't think he's a bad manager, I just think he's a nasty piece of work. As shit as we are, I expect us to be better than employing a walking timebomb as manager. Let's not forget he told his own fans to fuck off and die, a number of press bust ups including calling a reporter a prick, grabbing an opposition player by the neck.
It's a firm no from me to that scumbag.
Yeah and Remi's a gentleman and look where that's got us. We'd be lucky to find a manager better qualified than Pearson to take us back up.
I suppose you'd have Adam Johnson in the team as well.
What's that supposed to mean?
Pearson is a racist thug who should've been dealt with by the police. Johnson is another knob, currently being dealt with by the police.
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Villa covieniently available to boost another team who was in poor form. Please let this purgatory end.
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David Ginola is making a passionate speech live on Canal +. He is speaking as one of us. He says that the players are to blame, this great club doesn't deserve this. He says he will not congratulate Citeh for beating Aston Villa 4-0 because the players are not doing their jobs. He feels for Rémi who came to accomplish something but has not been backed.
Good lad David, he always speaks quite well of us.
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Sweet Jesus, when will this end...?
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He seemed genuinely cut up. He interrupted the usual post-match banalities and said he wanted to say a word about Aston Villa. Good stuff!
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Good lad.
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Sweet Jesus, when will this end...?
If we knew that...
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I honestly don't know who could manage our 'professional 'players and get decent results. Many players we have had in the past have looked like they would die for the cause but none of the ones we have now give me that impression.
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Got there early this morning to watch City's U18s v Chelsea at the new Academy Stadium just over the footbridge. There's a little Spanish lad in midfield for City, Briham Diaz, who really did look something special. £3 to get in and a good game (4-3) with some decent young players as you'd expect. But Diaz looked a class above everyone. Loan him to a Championship side next season is my advice!
Nothing to say about the afternoon game though, all pretty much as expected. Is there any other ground where Villa have been so consistently bad at? Away ground I mean.
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He seemed genuinely cut up. He interrupted the usual post-match banalities and said he wanted to say a word about Aston Villa. Good stuff!
He and Alan Pardew have both been removed from my shitlist this season. Most of those added are currently on our payroll
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It seems more ex employees are concerned about us than any present employees.
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He seemed genuinely cut up. He interrupted the usual post-match banalities and said he wanted to say a word about Aston Villa. Good stuff!
given the quota of French players that we have is there a higher level of interest in how we are doing?
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He seemed genuinely cut up. He interrupted the usual post-match banalities and said he wanted to say a word about Aston Villa. Good stuff!
He and Alan Pardew have both been removed from my shitlist this season. Most of those added are currently on our payroll
Has Pardew said nice things about is then ?
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He seemed genuinely cut up. He interrupted the usual post-match banalities and said he wanted to say a word about Aston Villa. Good stuff!
He and Alan Pardew have both been removed from my shitlist this season. Most of those added are currently on our payroll
Has Pardew said nice things about is then ?
When we beat them. Talked of a great club that would be a huge loss to league, when he didn't have to.
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He seemed genuinely cut up. He interrupted the usual post-match banalities and said he wanted to say a word about Aston Villa. Good stuff!
given the quota of French players that we have is there a higher level of interest in how we are doing?
Naturally.
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told you it would be at least four....put us out of our misery now, please
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told you it would be at least four....put us out of our misery now, please
No you didn't ;)
we held them to a draw back in november but cant see us doing the same today. At least 3 goals to man city
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I said I'd take 4-0 in the pre match thread so on that basis not too humiliating.
I think we'll end up With the record amount of goals conceded in the prem.
I am no mathematician, but since the 7-1 drubbing at Chelsea in MON's last season, we have been on the receiving end of some absolute thrashings. The alarming thing has been the regularity with which they have occurred. We must be averaging about three 5 or 6 nil thrashings a season since 2010 (not to mention the 8-1 away at Chelsea), and that's a really conservative estimate.
To cut to the chase, have we ever had such a poor defensive record, over a sustained period, before in our history? Genuine question.
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I honestly don't know who could manage our 'professional 'players and get decent results. Many players we have had in the past have looked like they would die for the cause but none of the ones we have now give me that impression.
They get paid. They are not Professional.
I'd like our 3 club captains to be subject to 2 minutes in a ring with Carl Frampton in a make of break situation. Try or fucking die. They can put their car or gold studs on the line.
On top of those 3 we have Guzan, Clark, Bacuna, Westwood who all need to be binned. Hutton too. Oh and Sinclair. Richardson will be.
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told you it would be at least four....put us out of our misery now, please
No you didn't ;)
we held them to a draw back in november but cant see us doing the same today. At least 3 goals to man city
Lol, its late, I've had beer! I forgot and other such excuses... :-[ :-[
On the plus side, I smashed the bejeezus out of my poundland radio that kept zoning out of the match and every time I got a signal we seem to have shipped another goal. In hindsight, it was the radios way of a) warning me against listening to that shite and b) a good way to avoid the cretins on WM.
Seriously pissed off but numb to it all. However, I feel we will survive the championship, I really do if Garde is backed and we get rid of the cardboard cutouts masquerading as villa players. I would keep Gestede the Ent and get players who can cross or better still, get in the oppositions half. I doubt we will get more than 20 points this season though. Shocking and shameful
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I said I'd take 4-0 in the pre match thread so on that basis not too humiliating.
I think we'll end up With the record amount of goals conceded in the prem.
I am no mathematician, but since the 7-1 drubbing at Chelsea in MON's last season, we have been on the receiving end of some absolute thrashings. The alarming thing has been the regularity with which they have occurred. We must be averaging about three 5 or 6 nil thrashings a season since 2010 (not to mention the 8-1 away at Chelsea), and that's a really conservative estimate.
To cut to the chase, have we ever had such a poor defensive record, over a sustained period, before in our history? Genuine question.
Or an overestimate as the average is once a season.
10/11: 1, 6-0.
11/12: 0.
12/13: 2. 5-0, 8-0
13/14: 0.
14/15: 2. 5-0, 6-1
15/16: 1. 6-0
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Decided to watch MOTD as i'd only listened to the commentary on the radio. They showed a clip of Gabby that summed up all that is wrong with too many players at the club. Lazy fucker just stood there and made no attempt to close down players on the ball. That's nothing to do with tactics, coaching etc, it's just being a lazy fucker that can't be arsed to move your fat arse.
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I said I'd take 4-0 in the pre match thread so on that basis not too humiliating.
I think we'll end up With the record amount of goals conceded in the prem.
I think that's one record we'll miss out on, well unless those bunch of muppets really go all out. Swindon have the record - 100 goals in 42 games, Derby 89 in 38 games.
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At last, a plausible explanation (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/mar/05/air-pollution-football-performance)
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I honestly don't know who could manage our 'professional 'players and get decent results. Many players we have had in the past have looked like they would die for the cause but none of the ones we have now give me that impression.
They get paid. They are not Professional.
I'd like our 3 club captains to be subject to 2 minutes in a ring with Carl Frampton in a make of break situation. Try or fucking die. They can put their car or gold studs on the line.
On top of those 3 we have Guzan, Clark, Bacuna, Westwood who all need to be binned. Hutton too. Oh and Sinclair. Richardson will be.
Can I swap Frampton out for David Haye please. At least he would have the power to knock the 3 of em into next fucking week.
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Despite not conceding in the first half, we still played poorly. The players really don't care, no professional pride at all.
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Went to bed at half time, scoreless, but I could see what what was in the post for the second half. Very angry at that point. However, I woke up with an attitude change. It's now reality. We're fucked, it's happened, and it's here. The anxiety and dread has gone, to be replaced by a numb acceptance, and an idle curiosity of just how pathetic and embarrassing it could get. There's nothing to salvage from this uberklusterfik of a season, so I hope the lads continue to go about their pursuit of crapness records in a truly professional manner. Another 8-0, or more, thrashing perhaps? Three sent off in one game? A new record for consecutive 5-0 defeats? If we're gonna hit rock bottom, let's do it in a geologically subterranean quality way.
Come on guys, you know you can do it.
You're starting to give me belly-laughs.
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One more game away without a win and we equal another club record. 15 away games without Victory. Very soon we shall run out of records.
Worst team in our history.
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I had the pleasure of watching today's game in San Diego at The Bluefoot Bar & Grille with the San Diego Lions Club.
In our bar was the Villa game, in the other bar was the Wet Spam game, they managed to do 3 goals against Everton and sounded like a great game, we didn't manage a shot on target and have let 14 in for 1 in return in or last 4 games.
Please make it stop.
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Once they scored the first, I turned to the Mrs and said within 5 minutes it will be two" my god they even proved that wrong it was within 2 minutes.
Remi if you ever let that lazy, no good arsehole that sums up AVFC this year, by someone within the organisation who has allowed him to have the honor of wearing the captains arm band, Richards, backed up on the same pitch by that fat overweight useless piece of shit Flabby that still remains as club captain, if you allow them to play please do not come out with crap that they are not trying enough, they are not listening to me in training, etc, etc, because you are the person who names 11 players to go on the pitch and represent Aston Villa, no one else but you, you also allow them to remain in the honored position of being captain and club captain of Aston Villa, this sums you and them up perfectly, you could not give a fuck.
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It's hard to believe that if the incompetent management had invested in two or three decent players in January we may have got away with it because all of our nearest rivals are going just as bad. We do not have one genuine leader at the club all we have are weak pricks who surrender after the first shot is fired.
I normally wouldn't dream of playing youngsters in a situation like this but Garde has to make a stand and let the non triers stay away completely, at the very least if the kids put the effort in the crowd will get behind them.
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Decided to watch MOTD as i'd only listened to the commentary on the radio. They showed a clip of Gabby that summed up all that is wrong with too many players at the club. Lazy fucker just stood there and made no attempt to close down players on the ball. That's nothing to do with tactics, coaching etc, it's just being a lazy fucker that can't be arsed to move your fat arse.
I made a point of watching what he was doing until I switched off.As Pws says he stayed about 6ft away from whoever was designated to mark him and made no attempt to close down anyone.He did however spread his arms to show his concern at his colleagues failure to deliver the ball to his feet several times!
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Pearson or Pulis are 2 of the very few managers that could make me stop going to games.
I honestly don't mind Pearson that much. He went a bit loopy last season but he's done a decent job wherever else he's been I think. Pulis would be horrible.
I don't think he's a bad manager, I just think he's a nasty piece of work. As shit as we are, I expect us to be better than employing a walking timebomb as manager. Let's not forget he told his own fans to fuck off and die, a number of press bust ups including calling a reporter a prick, grabbing an opposition player by the neck.
It's a firm no from me to that scumbag.
Yeah and Remi's a gentleman and look where that's got us. We'd be lucky to find a manager better qualified than Pearson to take us back up.
I suppose you'd have Adam Johnson in the team as well.
What an idiotic comment
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Wow. Just watched MOTD and hutton at fault for almost every goal. He was strolling for each and the fourth was the worst of lot. Dont want to see him richards or lescott again. Time for garde to do something about these slags
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Decided to watch MOTD as i'd only listened to the commentary on the radio. They showed a clip of Gabby that summed up all that is wrong with too many players at the club. Lazy fucker just stood there and made no attempt to close down players on the ball. That's nothing to do with tactics, coaching etc, it's just being a lazy fucker that can't be arsed to move your fat arse.
I made a point of watching what he was doing until I switched off.As Pws says he stayed about 6ft away from whoever was designated to mark him and made no attempt to close down anyone.He did however spread his arms to show his concern at his colleagues failure to deliver the ball to his feet several times!
I hate the fucker. I used to love Gabby. Now, I'd love to see his contract torn up. He is the ringleader, the creator of cliques,the poster boy for our demise. Fuck him, the lazy, miserable fat shit.
He was appallingly woeful yesterday. Moaning, arms out, stupid gormless moustached face. Fuck off Gabby, you utter utter c***. His post match interview against Norwich summed him up. Dogs abuse for him versus Spurs, please. Absolute dogs abuse. He's nearly as bad as Lerner and Fox. He is a reincarnation of them on the pitch. Get rid. Now.
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The best this team can do is desperately hold on to a goalless first half with two centre forwards playing halfway inside our own half before capitulating as soon as the inevitable happens. They really are the most pathetic collections of has-beens, incompetents and lazy arses I have ever seen.
Special mention to a few though. Richards for surely being responsible for more goals conceded in a season than any other player in history. Gabby for strolling around the same 20 yards of space, making no attempt to support our attack when we broke (as exemplified by Hutton's burst in the first half, which could have led to a chance if Gabby had broken with him). And then Westwood, who at times in his time at Villa has taken disproportionate amounts of stick but put in one of the most pathetic performances I have seen from any player in my time as a fan. He needs to be taken out, he has no confidence left.
You know the team is shit when Hutton looks like the best player every week. The 'upturn' in form over the winter was down to Ayew, Gana, Veretout, Lescott and Okore improving. They have all reverted to shit now as well. Just a woeful, cowardly and incompetent bunch of no-marks who are exactly where they deserve to be.
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We need to get rid of the following before we ever think about winning:
Guzan
Hutton
Richards, unless he agrees to be coached into becoming a proper right back
Westwood
Bacuna
Gabby
Clark
I'd also throw Baker in to the mix, as I do not want to see him in the Championship next year. He's rubbish,must because he makes foolish, blood and thunder tackles doesn't mean he's a good player.
The capitulation yesterday was appalling, as a Villa fan I was actually happy that we only lost by four which really is a damning indictment if what we've become.
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Well I spent the afternoon watching Birmingham's finest exponents of their art putting on a mesmerising, passionate and memorable display in front of a packed audience in Manchester. Every sinew was stretched and bodies put on the line by every member of the team. A superb performance!
The Royal Ballet have now finished their run at The Lowry, but if you get the opportunity to see their current production of Romeo and Juliet elsewhere on its tour, I'd highly recommend it.
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Decided to watch MOTD as i'd only listened to the commentary on the radio. They showed a clip of Gabby that summed up all that is wrong with too many players at the club. Lazy fucker just stood there and made no attempt to close down players on the ball. That's nothing to doDecided to watch MOTD as i'd only listened to the commentary on the radio. They showed a clip of Gabby that summed up all that is wrong with too many players at the club. Lazy fucker just stood there and made no attempt to close down players on the ball. That's nothing to do with tactics, coaching etc, it's just being a lazy fucker that can't be arsed to move your fat arse.
I made a point of watching what he was doing until I switched off.As Pws says he stayed about 6ft away from whoever was designated to mark him and made no attempt to close down anyone.He did however spread his arms to show his concern at his colleagues failure to deliver the ball to his feet several times!
I hate the fucker. I used to love Gabby. Now, I'd love to see his contract torn up. He is the ringleader, the creator of cliques,the poster boy for our demise. Fuck him, the lazy, miserable fat shit.
He was appallingly woeful yesterday. Moaning, arms out, stupid gormless moustached face. Fuck off Gabby, you utter utter c***. His post match interview against Norwich summed him up. Dogs abuse for him versus Spurs, please. Absolute dogs abuse. He's nearly as bad as Lerner and Fox. He is a reincarnation of them on the pitch. Get rid. Now.
I hate the fucker. I used to love Gabby. Now, I'd love to see his contract torn up. He is the ringleader, the creator of cliques,the poster boy for our demise. Fuck him, the lazy, miserable fat shit.
He was appallingly woeful yesterday. Moaning, arms out, stupid gormless moustached face. Fuck off Gabby, you utter utter c***. His post match interview against Norwich summed him up. Dogs abuse for him versus Spurs, please. Absolute dogs abuse. He's nearly as bad as Lerner and Fox. He is a reincarnation of them on the pitch. Get rid. Now.
Decided to watch MOTD as i'd only listened to the commentary on the radio. They showed a clip of Gabby that summed up all that is wrong with too many players at the club. Lazy fucker just stood there and made no attempt to close down players on the ball. That's nothing to do with tactics, coaching etc, it's just being a lazy fucker that can't be arsed to move your fat arse.
I made a point of watching what he was doing until I switched off.As Pws says he stayed about 6ft away from whoever was designated to mark him and made no attempt to close down anyone.He did however spread his arms to show his concern at his colleagues failure to deliver the ball to his feet several times!
I hate the fucker. I used to love Gabby. Now, I'd love to see his contract torn up. He is the ringleader, the creator of cliques,the poster boy for our demise. Fuck him, the lazy, miserable fat shit.
He was appallingly woeful yesterday. Moaning, arms out, stupid gormless moustached face. Fuck off Gabby, you utter utter c***. His post match interview against Norwich summed him up. Dogs abuse for him versus Spurs, please. Absolute dogs abuse. He's nearly as bad as Lerner and Fox. He is a reincarnation of them on the pitch. Get rid. Now.
This is exactly how I feel too. I've never been one for booing a Villa player, ever. But I think with Gabby and Micah Richards I can make an exception. I hate the pair of them. They are an absolute disgrace to the shirt.
Once the cull starts, they need to be the first two out the door.
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From the Observer match report:
"...watching the almost comical ineptitude Joleon Lescott and Alan Hutton demonstrated in failing to cut out a Jesus Navas cross...". Also "stricken Aston Villa", "such limited ambition", "like a training ground exercise" and I thought Paul Wilson went easy on us.
I don't remember ever hating any Villa player as much as I do Richards or Agbonlahor and yes, I do remember Hodge.
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Pearson or Pulis are 2 of the very few managers that could make me stop going to games.
I honestly don't mind Pearson that much. He went a bit loopy last season but he's done a decent job wherever else he's been I think. Pulis would be horrible.
I don't think he's a bad manager, I just think he's a nasty piece of work. As shit as we are, I expect us to be better than employing a walking timebomb as manager. Let's not forget he told his own fans to fuck off and die, a number of press bust ups including calling a reporter a prick, grabbing an opposition player by the neck.
It's a firm no from me to that scumbag.
Yeah and Remi's a gentleman and look where that's got us. We'd be lucky to find a manager better qualified than Pearson to take us back up.
I suppose you'd have Adam Johnson in the team as well.
What an idiotic comment
I should've used the tongue-in-cheek emoticon to go with it.
Clearly you don't want Adam Johnson, my point was that Pearson is a racist thug who should've been dealt with by the Police. A crime is a crime is a crime, and, as far as I can see, he committed one (maybe more).
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From the Observer match report:
"...watching the almost comical ineptitude Joleon Lescott and Alan Hutton demonstrated in failing to cut out a Jesus Navas cross...". Also "stricken Aston Villa", "such limited ambition", "like a training ground exercise" and I thought Paul Wilson went easy on us.
I don't remember ever hating any Villa player as much as I do Richards or Agbonlahor and yes, I do remember Hodge.
If you watch the 4th goal again, Hutton leaves two players unmarked just to his right. Like I said in another post, Hutton and Richards in the same defence is asking for trouble.
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Pearson or Pulis are 2 of the very few managers that could make me stop going to games.
I honestly don't mind Pearson that much. He went a bit loopy last season but he's done a decent job wherever else he's been I think. Pulis would be horrible.
I don't think he's a bad manager, I just think he's a nasty piece of work. As shit as we are, I expect us to be better than employing a walking timebomb as manager. Let's not forget he told his own fans to fuck off and die, a number of press bust ups including calling a reporter a prick, grabbing an opposition player by the neck.
It's a firm no from me to that scumbag.
Yeah and Remi's a gentleman and look where that's got us. We'd be lucky to find a manager better qualified than Pearson to take us back up.
I suppose you'd have Adam Johnson in the team as well.
What an idiotic comment
I should've used the tongue-in-cheek emoticon to go with it.
Clearly you don't want Adam Johnson, my point was that Pearson is a racist thug who should've been dealt with by the Police. A crime is a crime is a crime, and, as far as I can see, he committed one (maybe more).
Ok apology accepted.
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I have just seen the goals for the first time.
Christ on a bike!!!
What a shambolic bunch of fucktards.
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Yep..shocking defending..almost comical. If you want to score against us just wander into our box and wait for the ball. No villa player will bother you but after you have scored someone might point at you.
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Doug looked a forlorn figure yesterday.A sad end to his Aston Villa years, no matter how bad some of his decisions and penny pinching were, he doesn't deserve this.
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Doug looked a forlorn figure yesterday.A sad end to his Aston Villa years, no matter how bad some of his decisions and penny pinching were, he doesn't deserve this.
I saw him get out of his Rolls on Tuesday, which took him an age. I'm surprised he still does away matches.
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Doug looked a forlorn figure yesterday.A sad end to his Aston Villa years, no matter how bad some of his decisions and penny pinching were, he doesn't deserve this.
I saw him get out of his Rolls on Tuesday, which took him an age. I'm surprised he still does away matches.
Indeed, for all his 'faults' he is a fan.
I wonder if Randy knows about Dougs commitment ?
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Good article on our plight even though it's the Daily Mail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3478194/Aston-Villa-shambolic-Manchester-City-stopped-fighting-Remi-Garde-looks-enough.html
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Good to see Flabby called out on MOTD last night. Neville had him right at the Spurs away game pointing out that Flabby had touched the ball 8 times - including 2 kick-offs. Now he's been exposed on national TV as a lazy, fat slug with no professional pride, not even going through the motions. Happy to pick up his money for doing fuck all and probably undermining the manager in the process. God knows how we'll shift this slob onto someone else
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I long for the day that Abgonlahor gets shown the door. He's a parasite.
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Doug looked a forlorn figure yesterday.A sad end to his Aston Villa years, no matter how bad some of his decisions and penny pinching were, he doesn't deserve this.
I saw him get out of his Rolls on Tuesday, which took him an age. I'm surprised he still does away matches.
Indeed, for all his 'faults' he is a fan.
I wonder if Randy knows about Dougs commitment ?
Every single supporter that shells out from their own pocket gets my sympathy before him.
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An earlier post mentioned the only solution is a change of owner. It would help but first on the agenda has to be the clearing of the decks of those that are masquerading as footballers in the Villa squad.
We have to take relegation as an opportunity to start again and get it right so that we do not end up in this situation again. Quick fixes to satisfy impatience is not the way to go. A methodical rebuilding of a balanced squad is the only solution.
I would rather see us spending a bit less on transfers and use it to get rid of the wasters in the squad.
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I long for the day that Abgonlahor gets shown the door. He's a parasite.
I don't think it's fair to describe Gabby in the same way as you'd describe normal people and their attributes and motivations.
I think that if you were somehow able to get into Gabby's head it would be like looking down the wrong end of a really big telescope. He is so dumb, he is only a conscious being in the sense that dogs or monkeys are.
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One more game away without a win and we equal another club record. 15 away games without Victory. Very soon we shall run out of records.
Worst team in our history.
I assume that is since football was invented by Sky as we went an entire 42 game season without winning away when we came up in '75 I think
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Richards and Lescott-cant they be put down? Calamitous smegma clumps.
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Not much animation when we left the pitch.In fact they were more bothered swapping shirts and fist pumping.Disgrace.
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I actually think our only chance of pulling off some results is dumping out every sack of piss player we have, which is a lot of them and putting kids in. At least they'll provide a bit of energy and thrive at the opportunity given to them. Our youth and reserve sides have been pretty decent over the years, so we might as well play a few of them now that we're all but down.
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not sure why we just cant sack a lot of those cruds "by mutual consent"
take the fourth goal for example, Cissokho fails to block cross, both Lescott and Richards pull out of attempting to block the cross, Hutton has no idea where Sterling is.
We have 10 players inside or on the edge of our box, City have three and walk the ball into the net.
For their third goal, four of our players are done by a simple flick over the top by Silva, not one tracks the run by Aguero. Lescott half heartedly comes across, Guzan beaten easily at his near post.
genuinely shameful efforts from players with Villa shirts on
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Richards and Lescott-cant they be put down? Calamitous smegma clumps.
What did they do wrong?
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Doug looked a forlorn figure yesterday.A sad end to his Aston Villa years, no matter how bad some of his decisions and penny pinching were, he doesn't deserve this.
I saw him get out of his Rolls on Tuesday, which took him an age. I'm surprised he still does away matches.
Indeed, for all his 'faults' he is a fan.
I wonder if Randy knows about Dougs commitment ?
Every single supporter that shells out from their own pocket gets my sympathy before him.
Brilliant reply!!!
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Agbonlahor was that rubbish yesterday, he tripped over my stuttering Internet stream at one point.
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Its a very interesting clip, but I am not quite sure what to make of it. One thing that struck me was how down to earth the City players seem to be despite all the money that is flying round. None of this walking past support staff as if they weren't there, which in truth is what I would have expected.
I have no hard reason for believing so, but I suspect that Richards and Lescott detest each other. We have scored something like 23 goals so far this season, compared to just 15 at the same stage last time out. Contrary to what seems sensible, we have yet to miss Benteke's goals. We are where we are because our ability to defend has well and truly gone down the shitter. 8 goals better than last season should mean a comfortable place well clear of the third from bottom we were last time out.
Having Richards play alongside Lescott has more likely as not cost us more than anything else this season.
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For me it's a nothing clip. Ex Man City players see someone they recognize on returning to the club. City players who see them all the time just walk past. That clip is hardly an indication of the players dedication to the game on either side. We are just a shit and have no team chemistry or spirit. That's why we lost.
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Richards and Lescott-cant they be put down? Calamitous smegma clumps.
What did they do wrong?
How long have you got?
In this video, they seem far too happy. If I was doing such an appalling job at work and my company was tumbling to lower depths, I'd probably look a little bit more sheepish than they do. That pair look like they've just walked onto the balcony of a Tuscan villa after a stroll in a vineyard.
On the pitch? They've both been shit.
Off the pitch? They've been ****** on Twitter.
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Do you honestly think they are ever going to feel the same as fans? And even then they are not allowed to smile or laugh? I hope you still laugh and smile despite us being bottom of the table because it's not THAT important compared to lots of things in life. And they were just being polite to someone they obviously knew. They would have been bigger wankers just ignoring that lady for example. There's lot of things to smash this lot for without having to manufacture content.
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Richards and Lescott-cant they be put down? Calamitous smegma clumps.
What did they do wrong?
How long have you got?
In this video, they seem far too happy. If I was doing such an appalling job at work and my company was tumbling to lower depths, I'd probably look a little bit more sheepish than they do. That pair look like they've just walked onto the balcony of a Tuscan villa after a stroll in a vineyard.
On the pitch? They've both been shit.
Off the pitch? They've been c***s on Twitter.
Like TV has said, they were both back at a club where they know people. Have a go at their performances on the pitch, not for acknowledging old friends and teammates.
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Richards and Lescott-cant they be put down? Calamitous smegma clumps.
What did they do wrong?
How long have you got?
In this video, they seem far too happy. If I was doing such an appalling job at work and my company was tumbling to lower depths, I'd probably look a little bit more sheepish than they do. That pair look like they've just walked onto the balcony of a Tuscan villa after a stroll in a vineyard.
On the pitch? They've both been shit.
Off the pitch? They've been c***s on Twitter.
Like TV has said, they were both back at a club where they know people. Have a go at their performances on the pitch, not for acknowledging old friends and teammates.
That's fair enough.
I'm just longing for the back of them.
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Agbonlahor was that rubbish yesterday, he tripped over my stuttering Internet stream at one point.
Nice one - not much Villa related can make me chuckle
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I long for the day that Abgonlahor gets shown the door. He's a parasite.
This.
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I long for the day that Abgonlahor gets shown the door. He's a parasite.
This.
Yep - totally agree. Should have been shot of him in the 2013-14 close season.
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Just to remind everyone, the brief and extended highlights of the Citeh game are now available on the official website.
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Just to remind everyone, the brief and extended highlights of the Citeh game are now available on the official website.
I'll wait for the DVD.
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I long for the day that Abgonlahor gets shown the door. He's a parasite.
This.
Yep - totally agree. Should have shot him in the 2013-14 close season.
Fixed