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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on January 30, 2016, 05:30:52 PM
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The thread you've all been waiting for!
It was okayish, well for us, until the third. That third goal is one of the worst you will see any team concede at any level. I'd be fucked off if Brosmgrove conceded a goal like that. The 4th wasn't much better either.
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I'm starting to plan for a post Villa world. moribund doesn't begin to describe the state of the club
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Getting to be a familiar scoreline to these bunch of lucky bastards. And gifting them goals is a habit I hope we break while we're out of the division.
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Dammit.
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So no improvement on our last FA Cup defeat.
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I'm starting to look forward to the championship and some winnable games with every passing week (we'll probably fucking beat west ham now midweek...its the hope that kills ya).
Only the FA Cup anyway...not like we're winning it.
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Just back, another afternoon I'll never get back. It was embarrassing and I'm sick of it.
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A non-league team would have given City more of a game. No fight, no urgency, and in Richards case, no interest.
Positives: Jores looks better with each and every game.
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Obviously dismal, Villa board how about you start funding the improvement of the playing squad properly.
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I understand why people get hooked on drugs. Villa is my drug but I wish to hell I could get off it. They make me so angry, they care so little. Pathetic today, regardless of the opposition. Glad it wasn't a league game with that hammering. Richards needs to lose the captaincy. His attitude is shit. Bacuna, Westwood, just why Remi?
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I'd disagree with lack of fight, we weren't holding back in tackles etc and won most 50/50s, with some full blooded challenges. We were just hapless in the final third. And not much better in defence.
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Sounds like a good one to miss
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I'd stick with Agbonlahor up front from now on. He can't be any worse than anyone else.
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Oh well that is cup out of way
We can concentrate on the unmentionable now. Seriously concentrate. New players? Tomorrow last day
..ooh fuck. Ooh fuck. We still got great crowds when we were last out of the top divisions..dim and distant when ..oh fuck my brother in HK says he wouldn't play for them now and he is nearly 60!
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City noticeably had loads of players behind the ball when we had possession and fast, skilful players on the break. We couldn't create chances and demonstrated our worst at defending yet again. If we were to play without goalposts we might get a win on points for our play in the middle third. I thought Sinclair was totally anonymous as an attacking threat.
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Sounds like a good one to miss
Without a doubt. Although it was almost worth it for 3rd. I'm struggling to think of a worse goal i've seen us concede in my 40 odd years of watching us.
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I'd disagree with lack of fight, we weren't holding back in tackles etc and won most 50/50s, with some full blooded challenges. We were just hapless in the final third. And not much better in defence.
think about how much pressure not having any kind of attacking presence puts on the entire team. And it's not just the forwards who are at fault. The one thing Sherwood did do early on is get our midfielders into the box which led to the emergence of Tom Cleverley at the end of the season. We don't just need new strikers who actually move and create space, we need midfielders whop want to score goals. It's maddening when you just know that we'll knock it around the box for ages until we concede possession. There is no penetration or killer intent in the side at all.
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Now we can concentrate on getting quietly relegated and a summer of guff from the brains trust. There is no composure, very little technical ability, no height, no tenacity and no pace in the team. Somehow we've assembled 20 odd players who can't actually do much. This is probably the slowest Villa team I've ever seen.
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Sounds like a good one to miss
Without a doubt. Although it was almost worth it for 3rd. I'm struggling to think of a worse goal i've seen us concede in my 40 odd years of watching us.
The kind of pass Delph can only dream of providing.
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So it's about quarter to six on FA Cup Round 4 day and we've just limped on to page 2 of the post match thread. What the bloody hell is happening to us? The club is in such a mess it's unbelievable.
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So it's about quarter to six on FA Cup Round 4 day and we've just limped on to page 2 of the post match thread. What the bloody hell is happening to us? The club is in such a mess it's unbelievable.
What is there to say that hasn't been said with increasing regularity over the past 5 years though? There's only so many ways you can say Westwood is wank, we go again or everything will be alright.
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Well I can't argue with that.
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Out of the cup and I doubt anyone at the club really gives too much of a shit.
I'm aware how tough it is to sign players when you are bottom of the league but I refuse to believe there is not a player out two out there to bring in and give us a better chance of staying up.
The total lack of transfer incomings, the defeatist, meekly doomed tone of the board at the trust AGM... it's like they don't care about our disintegration. I can put up with defeats like today, especially when they are so predictable, but I fucking hate the meek acceptance of shitness
This is just another page in their growing book of "couldn't give a fuck".
That is something that trickles down from the top, from the bored rich kid who decided he didn't give a shit five years ago. This is just a moribund basket case of a club.
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The thread you've all been waiting for!
It was okayish, well for us, until the third. That third goal is one of the worst you will see any team concede at any level. I'd be fucked off if Brosmgrove conceded a goal like that. The 4th wasn't much better either.
Yep it was okayish in parts, but even then we hardly created anything. Our crosses and set pieces are atrocious and never beat the first man. The third goal was genuinely awful and it was the sign for us to give up altogether.
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Westwood is one of a team and I will argue with such ridiculous scapegoating of an individual who doesn't deserve it.
Last time I looked, the midfield performances today were being identified as 'better than City's' and he's hardly to be held accountable for the lack of fire power up front.
He's supposed to be playing a less than glamorous linking role; by all accounts in most weekly match reports and stats, he does that. He's provided assists to forwards who then don't make the most of them ( usually) for weeks, now.
Slag off the team, the manager, the strikers, the defence, even the coaches by all means because they share culpability but please, lay off Westwood!
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If Gabby is fit I'd play him from now on. Even with his pace having greatly diminished he's still quicker than Gestede or Kozak. I was watching his movement off the ball and although not the most intelligent (!) there was at least movement off the ball.
We are so slow it is unbelievable. To think of our fast counter attacking team of six years or so ago it's incredible what we've allowed to happen to our squad. The game is more and more about pace on the attack and we've got barely any.
If we do actually have a recruitment policy I hope its focused on getting some nippy six footers in.
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Black out.
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It saves having another thread on who we'll play in the next round of the FA cup, I don't think I will ever see them win the cup in my lifetime.
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I couldn't go today (despite having our season ticket seats) as the wife isn't too well, so listened to it on radio until I couldn't stand any more after about 50 mins.
What was the atmosphere like?
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I didn't give a fig about the game before k-o. I feel no different now its finished. Hiding to nothing game.
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The usual - hooting at delph and villa fans fighting amongst themselves .
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No Aguero, no Silva, no Yaya, no problem!
You've got to laugh when you look on some of our players social media and see the words "Professional footballer"
Letting some 19 year old rookie score a hat-trick, sums up why we are going down.
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I couldn't go today (despite having our season ticket seats) as the wife isn't too well, so listened to it on radio until I couldn't stand any more after about 50 mins.
What was the atmosphere like?
It wasn't that bad until the third. We were having fun in L2, well as much as you can when two down and it's obvious we'll lose, up until that point. That and the 4th led to folks leaving and some booing etc, can't say there was a mass exodus as there wasn't a mass to begin with!
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Thanks
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What a shambles. Dodgy penalty decision YET AGAIN apparently but couldn't really tell from the Upper Holte - killed the game but in reality we were and are pretty poor and never looked like scoring. Side to side just to make sure Citeh were all in their positions to pounce when we lost possession. Poor back passes to gift goals. I never,ever want to see Guzan play for us again - hesitant, flappy and just all round shit. And Sterling is just a girly cheat. And can we please stop winning the toss and changing ends. We attack the Holte in the second half not the first - it's just the way it is. I just want this season to end now.
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The usual - hooting at delph and villa fans fighting amongst themselves .
Was that what was going on in the far right side of the Lower Holte?
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Westwood is one of a team and I will argue with such ridiculous scapegoating of an individual who doesn't deserve it.
Slag off the team, the manager, the strikers, the defence, even the coaches by all means because they share culpability but please, lay off Westwood!
I do partly agree, and it's difficult sometimes when some players seem to get all the stick, but this is the fifth season of Westwood at the club and I'm struggling to think of him doing anything extrodinary in that time. He keeps things ticking sometimes without fucking anything up, but that's never going to get him much credit in the bank.
To be honest I could say the same about Gana, Sanchez, Veretout, it's just that they've been anonymous for a shorter period so the frustrations haven't had as long to build up. In similar circumstances Westwood got quite a lot of praise when in his first season or so, but that goodwill evaporates over successive seasons of disappointing performances.
Grealish, Gil, Bacuna have at least given us a few fleeting moments of something exceptional which have stood out. But they are in their own way just as disappointing as Westwood.
Jesus I'm depressing myself.
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I'd disagree with lack of fight, we weren't holding back in tackles etc and won most 50/50s, with some full blooded challenges. We were just hapless in the final third. And not much better in defence.
How were we hapless? Extremely poor I'd put it.
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The usual - hooting at delph and villa fans fighting amongst themselves .
Was that what was going on in the far right side of the Lower Holte?
I saw that but couldn't tell if it Villa arguing with themselves or some Man City intruders. A couple of people got pulled by stewards and that was it. Just seemed to be arguing no actual fighting.
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Sounds like a good one to miss
Without a doubt. Although it was almost worth it for 3rd. I'm struggling to think of a worse goal i've seen us concede in my 40 odd years of watching us.
Worse than Sunderland's 3rd? I haven't seen the goal so genuine question.
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Depressing , humiliating, embarrassing and pointless. What a waste of time that wad and it was freezing to.
Had that feeling that we had coming home from the cup final, same score line and same gulf in class.
Thank you Lerner for killing our club , 23,000 and at least 6,000 were their fans
Death of a once proud club.
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Sounds like a good one to miss
Without a doubt. Although it was almost worth it for 3rd. I'm struggling to think of a worse goal i've seen us concede in my 40 odd years of watching us.
Worse than Sunderland's 3rd? I haven't seen the goal so genuine question.
I'd say so. Our usual corner that doesn't beat their first man, a woeful pass by Ghana (I think it was) sets them up perfectly for a one on one without them having to do anything. Must have been within 20 seconds of our corner that they scored.
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Sounds like a good one to miss
Without a doubt. Although it was almost worth it for 3rd. I'm struggling to think of a worse goal i've seen us concede in my 40 odd years of watching us.
Worse than Sunderland's 3rd? I haven't seen the goal so genuine question.
The goals are on the BBC website if you want to suffer them
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Warning: you may not yet have had enough to drink to stomach this penalty decision; and you're certainly not drunk enough to tolerate this backpass.
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Here you go, for those that want misery. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35389138
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Well that was one hell of a back pass
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Fuckin hell that was comical defending. Also thought Guzan should have done better with the first goal.
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When you see that defensive line up including Guzan, it is hard to work out what any one including Garde could expect.
We threw that game with that selection.
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First goal - Clark caught ball watching as his man peels away from him round to the back post, forward shows more desire to slide in and put the ball home. Shit defending.
Second goal - Full back caught out of position, defender done for pace. Goon commits blatant push at the back post. Shit defending and also the midfield very slow to close down the player playing the through ball. Guzan does his usual flop to the floor the wrong way on a penalty. Have we ever had a keeper worse at saving penalties than this shiny domed gimp?
Third goal - Sums up 99% of the corners we've taken for years. Bloke who kicks a ball like a child can barely get the ball off the ground. It's headed out to Gana who turns and plays a backpass that barely reaches our own half nevermind the goal keeper. Guzan as per is beaten in a simple one on one.
Fourth goal - Terrible pass in the first place from Clark go Gana who is under pressure, he panics and can't control a sack of cement. Midfield are lazy and no one tracks the runner who goes through and Guzan makes a save. The ball is in the air and someone pulls out of the challenge, might be Veretout with his hands pulled in like a girl afraid of spiders. Chance is missed, ball falls to 2 Man City players who are fighting each other to put in the coup de grace. No Villa players have tracked back or are contesting it.
All round bollocks from all 11 on the pitch. The midfield don't escape either, for the money we've paid for 2 of them the effort is fucking shocking.
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Jeez. That 3rd.
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Those final two goals, oh my days.
The white flag really has gone up from the top to botoom of this club.
Said it before, just play kids from now on - the can't be any worse and surely they can't have the poisonous attitude that some of our so-called "stars" have.
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The goals look like when the bigger kids play the little kids at school and just steam roll through them whilst the little kids try their hardest to not get hurt or bring any attention to themselves. Pathetic.
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Just watched the goals, fucking embarrassing. Stats say we had 57% possession bizarrely?!?
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Sounds like a good one to miss
Without a doubt. Although it was almost worth it for 3rd. I'm struggling to think of a worse goal i've seen us concede in my 40 odd years of watching us.
Worse than Sunderland's 3rd? I haven't seen the goal so genuine question.
The goals are on the BBC website if you want to suffer them
Fuck me there was some poor goals there. First one, why was it Ayew closest to Kelechi when he scored? Second I didn't think was a pen. Third, terrible pass from Gana but why did it take Cissokho so long to react? 4th, just all over the place.
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Just watched the goals, fucking embarrassing. Stats say we had 57% possession bizarrely?!?
For large parts we were the much better side in the middle third. The problem was how bad we were in the other two. When they won the penalty i'd be surprised if we weren't close to 80% possession at the time.
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Words fail me for their third goal.
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Obviously dismal, Villa board how about you start funding the improvement of the playing squad properly.
Not going to happen unless we sell. Sadly, we've sold our one big money asset and bought a few on the back of that who might leave when we're relegated. I wouldn't expect any significant investment from here on in.
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A lot of possession in non threatening areas, and a midfield that cannot create or make runs. You could permutate any out of Westwood , Gana, Veretout, Gil, Sanchez, Bacuna and Grealish and the net effect would typically be the same.
I don't think any of the team are good enough for getting us out of the championship either in terms of ability or application and none of them demonstrated much of either today.
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Well the third goal was just a mistake nothing more. We played very well in patches but it was men against boys most of the game I am afraid.
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Obviously dismal, Villa board how about you start funding the improvement of the playing squad properly.
Not going to happen unless we sell. Sadly, we've sold our one big money asset and bought a few on the back of that who might leave when we're relegated. I wouldn't expect any significant investment from here on in.
The only one that will garner any attention I would expect to be Ayew, who himself has only been average to good. All the other buys have had many more poor games than they've had decent ones and wouldn't get anything like what we've paid for them.
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Not long been back I was expecting a loss but they just have to go and embarrass themselves don't they? That third goal is one of the worst you'll ever see and the fourth wasn't much better. It's painful watching that team they literally have no idea how to create chances and if Lescott and Okore aren't our centre half pairing our defence goes to shit, especially with bloody Guzan playing as well.
I would rather just play the kids now at least they will have some pride, I would be quite happy never have to watch Westwood, Bacuna, Clark, Guzan, Sinclair, Gana and Richards again. Not good enough any of them can't wait for the summer I really hope we have a major cull and fuck them all off.
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Two positives from that game.
1) confirmation that Guzan is appalling. Could have done better for three if not all of the goals. Hopefully that is his last appearance in a Villa shirt.
2) Confirmation Westwood is dire. No attacking nouse or desire. Being hooked at ht hopefully means that is his last appearance in a Villa shirt.
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Two positives from that game.
1) confirmation that Guzan is appalling. Could have done better for three if not all of the goals. Hopefully that is his last appearance in a Villa shirt.
2) Confirmation Westwood is dire. No attacking nouse or desire. Being hooked at ht hopefully means that is his last appearance in a Villa shirt.
Agree completely I hope we never have to see either of them again.
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Two positives from that game.
1) confirmation that Guzan is appalling. Could have done better for three if not all of the goals. Hopefully that is his last appearance in a Villa shirt.
2) Confirmation Westwood is dire. No attacking nouse or desire. Being hooked at ht hopefully means that is his last appearance in a Villa shirt.
Agree completely I hope we never have to see either of them again.
Probably resting Westwood for Tuesday (runs and hides)
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Two positives from that game.
1) confirmation that Guzan is appalling. Could have done better for three if not all of the goals. Hopefully that is his last appearance in a Villa shirt.
2) Confirmation Westwood is dire. No attacking nouse or desire. Being hooked at ht hopefully means that is his last appearance in a Villa shirt.
Agree completely I hope we never have to see either of them again.
And despite that back pass proof that Gana is a very good player.
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Wasn't able to go today and, in truth, had I not had another obligation I probably wouldn't have been sufficiently motivated to do so anyway.
Looks like the cup run ended in a similar vein to last season.
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Words fail me for their third goal.
I can think of plenty of words for it, but sadly none of them are repeatable.
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So it's about quarter to six on FA Cup Round 4 day and we've just limped on to page 2 of the post match thread. What the bloody hell is happening to us? The club is in such a mess it's unbelievable.
What is there to say that hasn't been said with increasing regularity over the past 5 years though? There's only so many ways you can say Westwood is wank, we go again or everything will be alright.
If you made a sound cloud of phrases I've uttered over the last 4 years, I reckon "FFS Westwood" would have the largest font size.
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Played ok in patches but Man City didn't really have to try too be honest. The 3rd and 4th goals were a bit of a mess. I just hope it hasn't killed any confidence they had built up in the previous games.
Oh and it was feckin freezing.
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Thanks Mr.Lerner for producing one of the worst Villa sides I have ever seen. Not just one of the worst in technical terms but one of the most fkin gutless teams ever to pull on the beautiful shirt. You were born with a silver spoon in your mouth unlike many of us. YOU found a toy that was a treasure, a love,a way of life to some of us. With your total ineptitude, lack of caring, total lack of responsibility, total lack of ownership and total lack of love for this club you have reduced us to a backpack daily newspaper comic strip. You are a complete and utter arse hole. BRIGHT future my fkin arse...Villa till I die...that's me ..how about you ?
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There's probably about 10-15 players who just want out now so this nightmare can end for them. They know they aren't good enough for this level.
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Thanks Mr.Lerner for producing one of the worst Villa sides I have ever seen. Not just one of the worst in technical terms but one of the most fkin gutless teams ever to pull on the beautiful shirt. You were born with a silver spoon in your mouth unlike many of us. YOU found a toy that was a treasure, a love,a way of life to some of us. With your total ineptitude, lack of caring, total lack of responsibility, total lack of ownership and total lack of love for this club you have reduced us to a backpack daily newspaper comic strip. You are a complete and utter arse hole. BRIGHT future my fkin arse...Villa till I die...that's me ..how about you ?
Great rant.
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Thanks Mr.Lerner for producing one of the worst Villa sides I have ever seen. Not just one of the worst in technical terms but one of the most fkin gutless teams ever to pull on the beautiful shirt. You were born with a silver spoon in your mouth unlike many of us. YOU found a toy that was a treasure, a love,a way of life to some of us. With your total ineptitude, lack of caring, total lack of responsibility, total lack of ownership and total lack of love for this club you have reduced us to a backpack daily newspaper comic strip. You are a complete and utter arse hole. BRIGHT future my fkin arse...Villa till I die...that's me ..how about you ?
Great rant.
Aye, spot on.
I honestly think we're gonna struggle in the Championship with this gutless shower, and I don't just mean the players.
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We're almost certainly down so we might just as well field our strongest team in the cup just to show that we still have pride and determination. Playing Guzan is the strongest sign that we're not taking the competition seriously. What has Sinclair done to merit a starting place? Why replace central defenders who were solid last week? Westwood is a slightly different case. I would normally agree with those who say he should never play for Villa again, but he did actually play well against W Brom and probably deserved his place.
We don't expect to avoid relegation but let's at least play our best team and show some fight.
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Men vs boys
$176m (their starting 11) against $40m (our starting 11). Its a money game these days.
No real drama.
We know what the problem is - we have 5 genuine PL level players - Amavi, Okore, Veretout, Gueye, and Ayew (not surprising these are the most valuable players in our squad) - the rest need to be sold or retired. We need to build a new team around Remi and those 5 (& pray they stick around at the end of the season).
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It was all a bit Lambert today, lots of pointless and blunt possession. Mainly down to a severe lack of confidence, it's easy to take the simple option of a sideways, short or back pass (unless you are Gana)
Not sure we will get out of this rut unless we get a nice big slice from the lucky cake or a couple of genius signings.
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Just watched highlights. Looked odd seeing away fans behind the goal. Witton looked almost empty.
it seems that will be the last time we entertain the mancs at least until late 2017. Hopefully, the next time one of them visits VP will be more of a fortress and we'll give one them a game rather than a guaranteed fun away day
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That must be the first time since 1967 that I have left a few minutes early,no matter if it was the cup or the league the basics mistakes etc just seem to be continually there.
Surely there must be some young kids we can blood in these games even if it's man city or Wycombe then the pain wouldn't be so bad but these are seasoned pros
Aaahhh well
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First of all I think the 23,000 crowd with 6 thousand of them being Mancs tells you something is drastically wrong as if any of us needed telling.
As to the match itself, all four goals were preventable and that was the biggest let down on the day. One decent shot on goal (second half free kick) is all we mustered unless we threw a barrage at them last 5 minutes which I missed.
Daft as it may seem I am so disappointed having departed our Holy Grail in such a lacklustre way this afternoon.
And why bring on Fat Gaby he offers nothing to top class football anymore.
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It was all a bit Lambert today, lots of pointless and blunt possession. Mainly down to a severe lack of confidence, it's easy to take the simple option of a sideways, short or back pass (unless you are Gana)
Not sure we will get out of this rut unless we get a nice big slice from the lucky cake or a couple of genius signings.
It shouldn't be a lack of confidence surely, we've been unbeaten for 5 games which might not be much but is our longest unbeaten run in ages.
I didn't go but looks like we just got punished by a quality clinical team. Remember Wycombe had chances at 0-0 but couldn't score.
What's clear is under no circumstances should Clark and Richards ever be tried again as a defensive partnership. That and we can't score goals but that's hardly enlightened statement of the year.
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Out of the cup means now means we can concentrate on relegation.
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That today is why I said we may aswell have lost the replay against Wycombe. It was always going to be embarrassing on and off the pitch.
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I know it's chalk and cheese, but I've played Sunday league football and it's equivalent in the UK, Australia, the Balkans, and East Africa. I was relatively crap, and I knew it, quite often I even had to pay for the privilege of wearing the shirt.
But we had pride.
There were times we won matches that we really shouldn't have done.
Effort and pride.
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And why bring on Fat Gaby he offers nothing to top class football anymore.
If that was the criteria we'd only be sending out five-a-side teams.
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Men vs boys
$176m (their starting 11) against $40m (our starting 11). Its a money game these days.
No real drama.
We know what the problem is - we have 5 genuine PL level players - Amavi, Okore, Veretout, Gueye, and Ayew (not surprising these are the most valuable players in our squad) - the rest need to be sold or retired. We need to build a new team around Remi and those 5 (& pray they stick around at the end of the season).
It was largely their reserves, but gulf in class in the final third was very apparent. When they got in good positions, their final ball whether it be a cross or pass was good. We just cannot seem to be able to beat the first man with our balls into the box.
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Sat in the upper Holte with my little lad and felt like the place was sucking the life out of me
half empty stadium, hardly any atmosphere, football that Billy smarts would be proud of,
And to top the shit sandwich of with a shity tasting sauce I got home and my wife had bought my lad a Barca hoodie...oh ffs
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losers, boozers and jacuzzi users every man jack of them
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Men vs boys
$176m (their starting 11) against $40m (our starting 11). Its a money game these days.
No real drama.
We know what the problem is - we have 5 genuine PL level players - Amavi, Okore, Veretout, Gueye, and Ayew (not surprising these are the most valuable players in our squad) - the rest need to be sold or retired. We need to build a new team around Remi and those 5 (& pray they stick around at the end of the season).
Thanks for pointing that out Tom - Got to say the Snake was outstanding for them - hate The Villa at 20:47pm right now.
It was largely their reserves, but gulf in class in the final third was very apparent. When they got in good positions, their final ball whether it god a cross or shot was good. We just cannot seem to be able to beat the first man with our balls into the box.
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On the plus side we haven't got to fork out for another expensive Wembley trip...no match of the day tonight, I think it's the 92/93 season on VHS tonight..UTV
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Men vs boys
$176m (their starting 11) against $40m (our starting 11). Its a money game these days.
No real drama.
We know what the problem is - we have 5 genuine PL level players - Amavi, Okore, Veretout, Gueye, and Ayew (not surprising these are the most valuable players in our squad) - the rest need to be sold or retired. We need to build a new team around Remi and those 5 (& pray they stick around at the end of the season).
Thanks for pointing that out Tom - Got to say the Snake was outstanding for them - hate The Villa at 20:47pm right now.
It was largely their reserves, but gulf in class in the final third was very apparent. When they got in good positions, their final ball whether it god a cross or shot was good. We just cannot seem to be able to beat the first man with our balls into the box.
Yep, as I say it was mainly their second string, but the reality is that every single one of them would walk into our side.
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Men vs boys
$176m (their starting 11) against $40m (our starting 11). Its a money game these days.
No real drama.
We know what the problem is - we have 5 genuine PL level players - Amavi, Okore, Veretout, Gueye, and Ayew (not surprising these are the most valuable players in our squad) - the rest need to be sold or retired. We need to build a new team around Remi and those 5 (& pray they stick around at the end of the season).
If it's just a money game we will be alright for coming straight back up then
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Fuckin hell that was comical defending. Also thought Guzan should have done better with the first goal.
He wasnt alone though. Type of effort he would have tipped over 2-3 years ago in his sleep.
Farcical all of it.
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I couldn't go today (despite having our season ticket seats) as the wife isn't too well, so listened to it on radio until I couldn't stand any more after about 50 mins.
What was the atmosphere like?
Not great, pretty quiet in the Holte upper where we were and most of the singing was abusing Delph which is fine but it was the worst atmosphere at a game I've been to for a long time. 23k. Terrible attendance but I don't blame anyone for not going.
Good to see Gabby back. I know he's been shit recently but hopefully he'll understand that he now has a responsibility to really put in a shift and take the opportunity to redeem himself. I think he will he start on Tuesday. Perhaps make him Captain? Don't have much choice with Sinclair looking like he can't be arsed.
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First time poster.
Personally I would have liked a cup run. If certainly helped our league form last season, even though the final was a let down.
The reality is that we struggle to compete with our first choice side, let alone make any changes. For a club of our size to have this situation as scandalous and negligent.
I feel really sorry for Remi Garde. He's clearly a decent guy, very calm and composed and definitely a very intelligent guy who knows the game well. But you have to wonder how long he will be prepared to bang his head against a brick wall.
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I hope Gabby starts on Tuesday, and I never thought I'd be saying that. He's a better option than Sinclair and who knows one might bounce off his big fat arse and go in.
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I hope Gabby starts on Tuesday, and I never thought I'd be saying that. He's a better option than Sinclair and who knows one might bounce off his big fat arse and go in.
Is Kozak injured?
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I hope Gabby starts on Tuesday, and I never thought I'd be saying that. He's a better option than Sinclair and who knows one might bounce off his big fat arse and go in.
Is Kozak injured?
Kozak and Gestede were both injured for today.
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I somehow managed to last 87 mins before i walked out in utter disgust. Another humiliation So depressing to be a Villa supporter these days.Sadly i fear it will get a lot worse before it gets better
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I'm not even gutted or depressed.
Just resigned.
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From a MK piece (5 Things ...) in the Meaning Evil.
Aston Villa's demise is taking its toll on the patience and pockets of the supporters. Today's attendance was 23,636.
Considering almost 6,000 of them were Manchester City's away army, then that means just over 17,500 Villa fans thought this tie was worth the effort and expense.
The stay-awayers were proved right as it eventually became a procession for Manuel Pellegrini's team, but it is a telling sign of where this fanbase is at.
Besides today's tie there have been plenty of home games this month - against Crystal Palace and Leicester City in the Premier League and Wycombe in the FA Cup so fans can be excused not forking out again.
Villa did reduce ticket prices for this fourth round tie, but the gate shows that an increasing number of supporters believe there is more fun to be had elsewhere.
It should make the powers that be think very carefully indeed about their pricing structure for what will almost certainly be Championship football next season.
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I somehow managed to last 87 mins before i walked out in utter disgust. Another humiliation So depressing to be a Villa supporter these days.Sadly i fear it will get a lot worse before it gets better
The fact that it is even theoretically possible that it could get worse than how toss it is already is an unbelievably depressing thought.
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First time poster.
Personally I would have liked a cup run. If certainly helped our league form last season, even though the final was a let down.
The reality is that we struggle to compete with our first choice side, let alone make any changes. For a club of our size to have this situation as scandalous and negligent.
I feel really sorry for Remi Garde. He's clearly a decent guy, very calm and composed and definitely a very intelligent guy who knows the game well. But you have to wonder how long he will be prepared to bang his head against a brick wall.
Yes. That's right.
Still being a big club has its ups and downs. Our rivals know we are bigger and have a wider reach than they would ever have, or could ever have combined together. Every now and then there's a blip. A little blip that we recover from. for them its what they are and who they are. And they know it. It's difficult but let them have their moment because you see, again, they have to wait for the mighty Aston Villa to fail, to trip up, to claim superiority over us. Its never anything that they have done over anyone meaningful period that allows them to think, well I'm not sure that they even really think it, that they even have any parity with us never mind supremacy.
We know, and they know, that they have to crow about it now because fast forward a few seasons and it'll be back to normal.
its painful first-timer but the mighty Aston villa have been here before and usually come back stronger than before. We're surrounded by a sea of shite and as ever the shite around us can't be the standard bearers for the area, for the Midlands. No, that's Aston Villa. Even from the Championship we'll still be the important name that the media will be talking about. That's why we're not just important for Villa fans, but for the Midlands as a whole. The Midlands needs us and the national media only care long-term about us.
Stick in there first-timer. It'll be shit this season. But we are who we are and they are who they are. And they know it. Lords of all around us. And they hate it. You have to laugh, eh?
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BBC reported VP as "near empty". I actually think 23k is fairly decent considering the current situation and the fact this result was a virtual foregone conclusion.
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Well the third goal was just a mistake nothing more. We played very well in patches but it was men against boys most of the game I am afraid.
This sums it up very well. Just so.
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I'm not even gutted or depressed.
Just resigned.
I am gutted and depressed.
But not resigned!
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Yes, not resigned here either. Angry, downbeat, shocked and frustrated. This season is all the chickens of the sea of bad decisions coming home to roost. We just have to suck it up, there's no avoiding it, and learn the dozens of lessons of the last 5 years on the pitch and 10 years off it.
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BBC reported VP as "near empty". I actually think 23k is fairly decent considering the current situation and the fact this result was a virtual foregone conclusion.
It was shocking, but I don't blame any fans for staying away. £10-£20 against one of the best teams in the country and we had around 17,000 home fans, we got similar for a midweek replay against League Two Wycombe. Tells you everything about what Lerner and co have done to this club, apathy reigns. To put into perspective, Albion had more home fans against Peterborough today than we had.
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BBC reported VP as "near empty". I actually think 23k is fairly decent considering the current situation and the fact this result was a virtual foregone conclusion.
23K was ok and probably much more than Smethwick had down the road however believe me it looked empty on three sides. The Witton End was packed to the rafters by City but Witton Lane looked like 1/3 full, the Holte had a few in centre but vast empty spaces on sides and top tier and top tier in Trinity was closed. So not a brilliant sight. We basically had 16K in space for 36K.
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Absolute woeful. Tippy tappy football with lots of possession but no penetration and mistakes a plentiful. Just please don't keep blaming Guzan, Clark, Westwood as scapegoats. Veretout, Gil, Gana and Ayew are just as poor; they may be new signings and somehow they have more credibility with quite a few posters on here but I just don't understand why.
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Gana has been missing for months, put a shift in for a couple of games towards the end of this month and that has been it. Ayew has a few tricks but little end product. Gil is a nothing player. Veretout is tidy but another one who doesn't track back well. For nearly £30m or whatever it's been the end product is very poor.
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Absolute woeful. Tippy tappy football with lots of possession but no penetration and mistakes a plentiful. Just please don't keep blaming Guzan, Clark, Westwood as scapegoats. Veretout, Gil, Gana and Ayew are just as poor; they may be new signings and somehow they have more credibility with quite a few posters on here but I just don't understand why.
Shows how crap everyone has been. Ayew, for instance, has shown the odd glimmer of quality but I agree he's hardly lit up the place and when we are in the Championship I'm not sure a player who was at Lorient and then the team finishing bottom of the Prem will have clubs falling over themselves to sign him up.
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First time poster.
Personally I would have liked a cup run. If certainly helped our league form last season, even though the final was a let down.
The reality is that we struggle to compete with our first choice side, let alone make any changes. For a club of our size to have this situation as scandalous and negligent.
I feel really sorry for Remi Garde. He's clearly a decent guy, very calm and composed and definitely a very intelligent guy who knows the game well. But you have to wonder how long he will be prepared to bang his head against a brick wall.
Yes. That's right.
Still being a big club has its ups and downs. Our rivals know we are bigger and have a wider reach than they would ever have, or could ever have combined together. Every now and then there's a blip. A little blip that we recover from. for them its what they are and who they are. And they know it. It's difficult but let them have their moment because you see, again, they have to wait for the mighty Aston Villa to fail, to trip up, to claim superiority over us. Its never anything that they have done over anyone meaningful period that allows them to think, well I'm not sure that they even really think it, that they even have any parity with us never mind supremacy.
We know, and they know, that they have to crow about it now because fast forward a few seasons and it'll be back to normal.
its painful first-timer but the mighty Aston villa have been here before and usually come back stronger than before. We're surrounded by a sea of shite and as ever the shite around us can't be the standard bearers for the area, for the Midlands. No, that's Aston Villa. Even from the Championship we'll still be the important name that the media will be talking about. That's why we're not just important for Villa fans, but for the Midlands as a whole. The Midlands needs us and the national media only care long-term about us.
Stick in there first-timer. It'll be shit this season. But we are who we are and they are who they are. And they know it. Lords of all around us. And they hate it. You have to laugh, eh?
You have to laugh too when the best username it can come up with begins BC! It ought to be a private investigator with such ingenuity.
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BBC reported VP as "near empty". I actually think 23k is fairly decent considering the current situation and the fact this result was a virtual foregone conclusion.
23K was ok and probably much more than Smethwick had down the road however believe me it looked empty on three sides. The Witton End was packed to the rafters by City but Witton Lane looked like 1/3 full, the Holte had a few in centre but vast empty spaces on sides and top tier and top tier in Trinity was closed. So not a brilliant sight. We basically had 16K in space for 36K.
Albion had 22k+ with 4k Peterborough fans so they had more home fans than us. That's what Lerner has done to us, less home fans than the fecking Albion.
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Maybe it's Black Country? Maybe it's not a first time poster? May the force be with you. Maybe baby.
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BBC reported VP as "near empty". I actually think 23k is fairly decent considering the current situation and the fact this result was a virtual foregone conclusion.
23K was ok and probably much more than Smethwick had down the road however believe me it looked empty on three sides. The Witton End was packed to the rafters by City but Witton Lane looked like 1/3 full, the Holte had a few in centre but vast empty spaces on sides and top tier and top tier in Trinity was closed. So not a brilliant sight. We basically had 16K in space for 36K.
Albion had 22k+ with 4k Peterborough fans so they had more home fans than us. That's what Lerner has done to us, less home fans than the fecking Albion.
Congratulations. You have just scraped the bottom of the barrel.
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Bizarrely we'd probably have had more turn up if we'd been playing Peterborough.
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BC is short for Black Country ☺
It's at the point where we have to have gallows humour though. I think it's pretty clear we won't dig ourselves out of it this time.
The worry I have is can you trust the current board to sort out the mess they've got us into.
Rather like getting a plumber to sort out your plumbing and then asking him to put it right after he's buggered up and flooded the kitchen.
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BBC reported VP as "near empty". I actually think 23k is fairly decent considering the current situation and the fact this result was a virtual foregone conclusion.
23K was ok and probably much more than Smethwick had down the road however believe me it looked empty on three sides. The Witton End was packed to the rafters by City but Witton Lane looked like 1/3 full, the Holte had a few in centre but vast empty spaces on sides and top tier and top tier in Trinity was closed. So not a brilliant sight. We basically had 16K in space for 36K.
Albion had 22k+ with 4k Peterborough fans so they had more home fans than us. That's what Lerner has done to us, less home fans than the fecking Albion.
There are a couple of caveats that you have to bear in mind; a) The Tesco Bags tickets were cheaper than ours i.e £10:00 for an adult and there's went to general sale which ours didn't due to the potential of Citeh fans getting in the home seats
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BBC reported VP as "near empty". I actually think 23k is fairly decent considering the current situation and the fact this result was a virtual foregone conclusion.
23K was ok and probably much more than Smethwick had down the road however believe me it looked empty on three sides. The Witton End was packed to the rafters by City but Witton Lane looked like 1/3 full, the Holte had a few in centre but vast empty spaces on sides and top tier and top tier in Trinity was closed. So not a brilliant sight. We basically had 16K in space for 36K.
Albion had 22k+ with 4k Peterborough fans so they had more home fans than us. That's what Lerner has done to us, less home fans than the fecking Albion.
There are a couple of caveats that you have to bear in mind; a) The Tesco Bags tickets were cheaper than ours i.e £10:00 for an adult and there's went to general sale which ours didn't due to the potential of Citeh fans getting in the home seats
At the same time £10 is a lot for them, you can buy a house in Smethwick for that.
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Not bizarrely really. Fans didn't turn up today because they thought we will get thrashed and .....
Against a lower league club with a good chance of winning yes I agree we would have had 26/27K.
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Albion had 22k+ with 4k Peterborough fans so they had more home fans than us. That's what Lerner has done to us, less home fans than the fecking Albion.
On a bit of a tangent, at eight pages this thread seems rather light compared to its equivalent for other games.
Edit - nine pages still seems light.
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BBC reported VP as "near empty". I actually think 23k is fairly decent considering the current situation and the fact this result was a virtual foregone conclusion.
23K was ok and probably much more than Smethwick had down the road however believe me it looked empty on three sides. The Witton End was packed to the rafters by City but Witton Lane looked like 1/3 full, the Holte had a few in centre but vast empty spaces on sides and top tier and top tier in Trinity was closed. So not a brilliant sight. We basically had 16K in space for 36K.
Albion had 22k+ with 4k Peterborough fans so they had more home fans than us. That's what Lerner has done to us, less home fans than the fecking Albion.
Who gives a fuck? They'll probably have it on a banner.
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BBC reported VP as "near empty". I actually think 23k is fairly decent considering the current situation and the fact this result was a virtual foregone conclusion.
23K was ok and probably much more than Smethwick had down the road however believe me it looked empty on three sides. The Witton End was packed to the rafters by City but Witton Lane looked like 1/3 full, the Holte had a few in centre but vast empty spaces on sides and top tier and top tier in Trinity was closed. So not a brilliant sight. We basically had 16K in space for 36K.
Albion had 22k+ with 4k Peterborough fans so they had more home fans than us. That's what Lerner has done to us, less home fans than the fecking Albion.
Congratulations. You have just scraped the bottom of the barrel.
Excuse me? Olaf said probably much more than Albion had, I merely pointed out that wasn't the case, which is criminal for a club of our size. As I said though I don't blame the fans at all.
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BBC reported VP as "near empty". I actually think 23k is fairly decent considering the current situation and the fact this result was a virtual foregone conclusion.
23K was ok and probably much more than Smethwick had down the road however believe me it looked empty on three sides. The Witton End was packed to the rafters by City but Witton Lane looked like 1/3 full, the Holte had a few in centre but vast empty spaces on sides and top tier and top tier in Trinity was closed. So not a brilliant sight. We basically had 16K in space for 36K.
Albion had 22k+ with 4k Peterborough fans so they had more home fans than us. That's what Lerner has done to us, less home fans than the fecking Albion.
There are a couple of caveats that you have to bear in mind; a) The Tesco Bags tickets were cheaper than ours i.e £10:00 for an adult and there's went to general sale which ours didn't due to the potential of Citeh fans getting in the home seats
At the same time £10 is a lot for them, you can buy a house in Smethwick for that.
Good point well made...........
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BBC reported VP as "near empty". I actually think 23k is fairly decent considering the current situation and the fact this result was a virtual foregone conclusion.
23K was ok and probably much more than Smethwick had down the road however believe me it looked empty on three sides. The Witton End was packed to the rafters by City but Witton Lane looked like 1/3 full, the Holte had a few in centre but vast empty spaces on sides and top tier and top tier in Trinity was closed. So not a brilliant sight. We basically had 16K in space for 36K.
Albion had 22k+ with 4k Peterborough fans so they had more home fans than us. That's what Lerner has done to us, less home fans than the fecking Albion.
Congratulations. You have just scraped the bottom of the barrel.
Excuse me? Olaf said probably much more than Albion had, I merely pointed out that wasn't the case, which is criminal for a club of our size. As I said though I don't blame the fans at all.
One match, possibly, for a number of reasons. Still, if it makes you happy.
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Let's be honest - if you can afford a tenner you can afford £15. It's hardly expensive. 17k home fans for a first team game is shit.
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I'm old enough to remember when 17K was a decent crowd :(
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Albion had 22k+ with 4k Peterborough fans so they had more home fans than us. That's what Lerner has done to us, less home fans than the fecking Albion.
On a bit of a tangent, at eight pages this thread seems rather light compared to its equivalent for other games.
Edit - nine pages still seems light.
Give it time there is lot of traffic around the Internet tonight!
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Albion had 22k+ with 4k Peterborough fans so they had more home fans than us. That's what Lerner has done to us, less home fans than the fecking Albion.
On a bit of a tangent, at eight pages this thread seems rather light compared to its equivalent for other games.
Edit - nine pages still seems light.
Sorry Chris, I guess we're just not as popular as we used to be.
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Let's be honest - if you can afford a tenner you can afford £15. It's hardly expensive. 17k home fans for a first team game is shit.
Our average of 30000+ in the PL is excellent when you consider the crap we've had to watch over the last 5 seasons.
Something was always going to give eventually.
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I'm old enough to remember when 17K was a decent crowd :(
I am old enough to remember when the opposition filled up the Witton End we had 50K in the other 3!
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BBC reported VP as "near empty". I actually think 23k is fairly decent considering the current situation and the fact this result was a virtual foregone conclusion.
23K was ok and probably much more than Smethwick had down the road however believe me it looked empty on three sides. The Witton End was packed to the rafters by City but Witton Lane looked like 1/3 full, the Holte had a few in centre but vast empty spaces on sides and top tier and top tier in Trinity was closed. So not a brilliant sight. We basically had 16K in space for 36K.
Albion had 22k+ with 4k Peterborough fans so they had more home fans than us. That's what Lerner has done to us, less home fans than the fecking Albion.
Who gives a fuck? They'll probably have it on a banner.
They'll erect a statue of the match ticket and have a commemorative dinner on 30th January 2051
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Sinclair made Gabby look brilliant!
And why bring on Fat Gaby he offers nothing to top class football anymore.
If that was the criteria we'd only be sending out five-a-side teams.
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Albion had 22k+ with 4k Peterborough fans so they had more home fans than us. That's what Lerner has done to us, less home fans than the fecking Albion.
On a bit of a tangent, at eight pages this thread seems rather light compared to its equivalent for other games.
Edit - nine pages still seems light.
Sorry Chris, I guess we're just not as popular as we used to be.
I'm not suggesting its about the popularity of this site. But rather the lack of interest in the fixture. In the same way that the gate was light, clearly people aren't as interested in this fixture hence the (seemingly) lower than normal post count.
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BBC reported VP as "near empty". I actually think 23k is fairly decent considering the current situation and the fact this result was a virtual foregone conclusion.
23K was ok and probably much more than Smethwick had down the road however believe me it looked empty on three sides. The Witton End was packed to the rafters by City but Witton Lane looked like 1/3 full, the Holte had a few in centre but vast empty spaces on sides and top tier and top tier in Trinity was closed. So not a brilliant sight. We basically had 16K in space for 36K.
Albion had 22k+ with 4k Peterborough fans so they had more home fans than us. That's what Lerner has done to us, less home fans than the fecking Albion.
Thats a frightening thought, what a state of affairs.
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Let's be honest - if you can afford a tenner you can afford £15. It's hardly expensive. 17k home fans for a first team game is shit.
£15? £20 muggins here paid and just before I had handed my money over they had scored! Several walked out of the ticket office at that time and I must say I was judgemental.
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And we'll average more than them next season despite almost certainly being in the division below. Fuck 'em, bitter twats.
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And we'll average more than them next season despite almost certainly being in the division below. Fuck 'em, bitter twats.
...is the right answer.
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Let's be honest - if you can afford a tenner you can afford £15. It's hardly expensive. 17k home fans for a first team game is shit.
£15? £20 muggins here paid and just before I had handed my money over they had scored! Several walked out of the ticket office at that time and I must say I was judgemental.
Think it was only £15 for the Holte and £20 in the Trinity and Witton Lane. I noticed loads still in the ticket office as walked through the car park 10 mins or so before KO.
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Albion had 22k+ with 4k Peterborough fans so they had more home fans than us. That's what Lerner has done to us, less home fans than the fecking Albion.
They held us to a draw last week. That is always going to add 3/4000 to their next gate, regardless of who they are playing.
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Albion had 22k+ with 4k Peterborough fans so they had more home fans than us. That's what Lerner has done to us, less home fans than the fecking Albion.
On a bit of a tangent, at eight pages this thread seems rather light compared to its equivalent for other games.
Edit - nine pages still seems light.
Sorry Chris, I guess we're just not as popular as we used to be.
I'm not suggesting its about the popularity of this site. But rather the lack of interest in the fixture. In the same way that the gate was light, clearly people aren't as interested in this fixture hence the (seemingly) lower than normal post count.
On top of the team we were playing its the resignation and general malaise running through the fans. I bet there has been less foot traffic on H&V and probably less posts compared to similar stages of the past few seasons.
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Albion had 22k+ with 4k Peterborough fans so they had more home fans than us. That's what Lerner has done to us, less home fans than the fecking Albion.
On a bit of a tangent, at eight pages this thread seems rather light compared to its equivalent for other games.
Edit - nine pages still seems light.
Sorry Chris, I guess we're just not as popular as we used to be.
I'm not suggesting its about the popularity of this site. But rather the lack of interest in the fixture. In the same way that the gate was light, clearly people aren't as interested in this fixture hence the (seemingly) lower than normal post count.
On top of the team we were playing its the resignation and general malaise running through the fans. I bet there has been less foot traffic on H&V and probably less posts compared to similar stages of the past few seasons.
just as likely is were all still here but don't know what the fck to say, its all been said before and is twisting everyones melons man
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Albion had 22k+ with 4k Peterborough fans so they had more home fans than us. That's what Lerner has done to us, less home fans than the fecking Albion.
On a bit of a tangent, at eight pages this thread seems rather light compared to its equivalent for other games.
Edit - nine pages still seems light.
Sorry Chris, I guess we're just not as popular as we used to be.
I'm not suggesting its about the popularity of this site. But rather the lack of interest in the fixture. In the same way that the gate was light, clearly people aren't as interested in this fixture hence the (seemingly) lower than normal post count.
On top of the team we were playing its the resignation and general malaise running through the fans. I bet there has been less foot traffic on H&V and probably less posts compared to similar stages of the past few seasons.
just as likely is were all still here but don't know what the fck to say, its all been said before and is twisting everyones melons man
Maybe that's it as well.
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First time poster.
Personally I would have liked a cup run. If certainly helped our league form last season, even though the final was a let down.
The reality is that we struggle to compete with our first choice side, let alone make any changes. For a club of our size to have this situation as scandalous and negligent.
I feel really sorry for Remi Garde. He's clearly a decent guy, very calm and composed and definitely a very intelligent guy who knows the game well. But you have to wonder how long he will be prepared to bang his head against a brick wall.
You're very brave. Give yaself a round of applause for such wordsmith.
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Well we'll soon be on page 11 and we can put all this behind us.
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Will someone start a West ham thread? May as well pretend to be optimistic.
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Will someone start a West ham thread? May as well pretend to be optimistic.
or we could remenisce 77-83
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And so the wait goes into the 60th year. I refuse to drop dead until I see us win this poxy, over-hyped bloody cup.
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And so the wait goes into the 60th year. I refuse to drop dead until I see us win this poxy, over-hyped bloody cup.
to realistically remember it yiu need to be 70 years young, step forward please
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Well that defending was pathetic! Than you Raheem Sterling though for stealing Delphs tap in for the 4th
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Will someone start a West ham thread? May as well pretend to be optimistic.
No one's got the energy right now.
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And so the wait goes into the 60th year. I refuse to drop dead until I see us win this poxy, over-hyped bloody cup.
I'm living to 100. We gave 57 more stabs left.
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Let's be honest - if you can afford a tenner you can afford £15. It's hardly expensive. 17k home fans for a first team game is shit.
£15? £20 muggins here paid and just before I had handed my money over they had scored! Several walked out of the ticket office at that time and I must say I was judgemental.
Yeah where I sit it would have been 20 notes. I didn't want to go and blew it on a cracking Cantonese earlier instead. Money well spent 8)
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tony morley,peter withe,paul McGrath, brian little,chris nicholl, jimmy rimmer, allan evans,gary shaw shaw shaw ,dennis Mortimer, where are you,where are you
Sidney cowans oooops
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Let's be honest - if you can afford a tenner you can afford £15. It's hardly expensive. 17k home fans for a first team game is shit.
it is if youre taking a family, and many would have been put off by the prospect of getting smashed by citeh, which turned out to be the case
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fuck Delph the snake.
/that is all.
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Maybe you should rename yourself Villa
Delph? ;)
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Maybe you should rename yourself VillaDelph? ;)
I really should change my name
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Maybe you should rename yourself VillaDelph? ;)
I really should change my name
That would be Fab.
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Maybe you should rename yourself VillaDelph? ;)
I really should change my name
That would be Fab.
I just assumed he lived in Philadelphia.
:)
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Concern is that we have maybe and I say maybe 5 or 6 players that if we rest a number of them, the whole shape, desire and basic ability goes completely out of the window, we are left with the likes of Richards, Bacuna, Clark, Westwood, Sinclair, Guzan, subs like Gabby, Richardson god forbid CNZ, all players who have time and time again let down Aston Villa, there is a disease running through the club, how this has happened has been debated to hell and back, but until the disease is removed and ruthlessly as a football club we will not be able to compete at any decent level befitting AVFC.
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You might well be right, but can you see any owner sanctioning the paying off of so many contracts to remove it ? There is a monumental task ahead - keeping hold of the few who are worth it, weeding out the ones that have to go either through paying them off or hoping some mug punter might fancy one or two of them, and then attracting new blood who both want to play for us and improve us, without plunging the club into fiscal suicide. Those conditions would test the most understanding of owners and a manager of SAF's quality in his pomp.
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Apathy everywhere, this could takes years to put right.
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Mr. Underhill totally agree with you, what I am trying to highlight is the fact as a functioning football club, we are not and have not for far to long functioned and those that think a season in the chumpionship is the answer maybe in for a rude awakening.
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Villa, though... they've given up as a club. their fans did no more than shrug and trudge out after our fourth. no remonstrating, no anger, just passive. They're resigned to the Championship and will do nothing to stop themselves, it seems.
A post from Bluemoon forum. Sums it up. Apathy everywhere.
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Villa, though... they've given up as a club. their fans did no more than shrug and trudge out after our fourth. no remonstrating, no anger, just passive. They're resigned to the Championship and will do nothing to stop themselves, it seems.
A post from Bluemoon forum. Sums it up. Apathy everywhere.
Wonder if this person did the same when Man City were shit and went down?
Or did they not even bother going because they were shit.
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There's no excuses this time chaps
Saturday 3 o'clock kick off, FA Cup tie against title chasing City, tickets at £15 and £10
fans have just had enough, who can blame them
There is a whole generation of kids who we will find it difficult to engage,
my own lad (eight) has only ever seen us being rubbish, he thinks that's what we are, he knows and has seen nothing else, he's living in a TV world of Messi and Ronaldo
He was more interested in seeing Aguero and Silva yesterday, I know they didn't play but the fact is he wasn't excited about anyone playing for Villa, Benteke was his first footballing hero and Delph, both gone
I'm taking him to games and he's still struggling with supporting Villa, any brummie kid or otherwise left to there own devices isn't going to be picking us, they are an absolute embarrassment
I can look back and remember us being league champions and European cup winners young school kids today look back and remember the dizzy heights of finishing 9th
It's a bad thing that's happened
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Villa, though... they've given up as a club. their fans did no more than shrug and trudge out after our fourth. no remonstrating, no anger, just passive. They're resigned to the Championship and will do nothing to stop themselves, it seems.
A post from Bluemoon forum. Sums it up. Apathy everywhere.
Wonder if this person did the same when Man City were shit and went down?
Or did they not even bother going because they were shit.
Citeh are second only to Blose when it comes to embarressing relegations so I wouldn't be taking too many lectures from them. Infact, they were heading for the Championship and thought that the Thai bloke was their Chinesse hairdresser before the oil money turned up and turned them from panel beaters to world beaters. *
Copyright Big Ron.
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Villa, though... they've given up as a club. their fans did no more than shrug and trudge out after our fourth. no remonstrating, no anger, just passive. They're resigned to the Championship and will do nothing to stop themselves, it seems.
A post from Bluemoon forum. Sums it up. Apathy everywhere.
Wonder if this person did the same when Man City were shit and went down?
Or did they not even bother going because they were shit.
Citeh are second only to Blose when it comes to embarressing relegations so I wouldn't be taking too many lectures from them. Infact, they were heading for the Championship and thought that the Thai bloke was their Chinesse hairdresser before the oil money turned up and turned them from panel beaters to world beaters. *
Copyright Big Ron.
It doesn't seem long ago when we beat them 4-2 (Gabby hat trick) and with their Thai owner a wanted man they looked in serious trouble. Jammy bastards.
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Villa, though... they've given up as a club. their fans did no more than shrug and trudge out after our fourth. no remonstrating, no anger, just passive. They're resigned to the Championship and will do nothing to stop themselves, it seems.
A post from Bluemoon forum. Sums it up. Apathy everywhere.
Wonder if this person did the same when Man City were shit and went down?
Or did they not even bother going because they were shit.
Citeh are second only to Blose when it comes to embarressing relegations so I wouldn't be taking too many lectures from them. Infact, they were heading for the Championship and thought that the Thai bloke was their Chinesse hairdresser before the oil money turned up and turned them from panel beaters to world beaters. *
Copyright Big Ron.
It doesn't seem long ago when we beat them 4-2 (Gabby hat trick) and with their Thai owner a wanted man they looked in serious trouble. Jammy bastards.
We beat them twice under Lambert 4-2 at the Ethiad in the Cup and 3-2 in the league at home Comes to something when you start looking back at Lamberts reign with fondness because we were capable of pulling off a shock result against the big boys. Now we can' beat barely anybody
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There's no excuses this time chaps
Saturday 3 o'clock kick off, FA Cup tie against title chasing City, tickets at £15 and £10
fans have just had enough, who can blame them
There is a whole generation of kids who we will find it difficult to engage,
my own lad (eight) has only ever seen us being rubbish, he thinks that's what we are, he knows and has seen nothing else, he's living in a TV world of Messi and Ronaldo
He was more interested in seeing Aguero and Silva yesterday, I know they didn't play but the fact is he wasn't excited about anyone playing for Villa, Benteke was his first footballing hero and Delph, both gone
I'm taking him to games and he's still struggling with supporting Villa, any brummie kid or otherwise left to there own devices isn't going to be picking us, they are an absolute embarrassment
I can look back and remember us being league champions and European cup winners young school kids today look back and remember the dizzy heights of finishing 9th
It's a bad thing that's happened
Yes john e quite right it's tough turning our youngsters into Villa fans in the world they live in and current situation and not being in the Premier next season will turn another Brummie generation in the wrong direction.
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Villa, though... they've given up as a club. their fans did no more than shrug and trudge out after our fourth. no remonstrating, no anger, just passive. They're resigned to the Championship and will do nothing to stop themselves, it seems.
A post from Bluemoon forum. Sums it up. Apathy everywhere.
To a certain extent he's right. We gave a master class in ineptitude yesterday. We conceded early, gave away a penalty and then gave them a third from a woeful attempt at a back pass. That in between times we passed the ball neatly counts for nothing.
I know we conceded a fourth but after the third I decided I no longer wanted to spend by time having my seat kicked by the little rugrat behind me so left, along with hundreds of others. Just I got to the top of the steps down to the concourse and an old bloke started ranting at everyone for leaving and not to bother coming back, all I could do was laugh at the futility of it - and then as I turned they scored again.There were so many people on Witton Lane as we walked to the pub it felt like a normal full time.
Where he hasn't got a point is that his club are a massive part of the problem. Their fans act as though they are in a fair fight when the truth is they can leave players out and still field a side costing many times more than our entire squad. We leave out a few and get the Keystone Cops.
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I have been going "down the Villa" since the late sixties and have had a season ticket since they introduced standing season tickets in the late 70s(?). I've kept this going despite moving to North Yorkshire 20 years ago. Enjoyment of home performances started to decline when MON made us into a counter-attacking team - we'd get a goal and then sit back and let the opposition attack us and try and hit them on the break. Far too often this wouldn't work and we' drop points unnecessarily.
Since then it has only got worse. This season I have only been to VP twice to date - the last being the thriller 😴 against Stoke. When you can watch the game without leaving home why waste 5 hours in travel plus petrol costs to watch crap.
I will use my season ticket again vs Norwich mainly because I'm seeing friends in Brum for the weekend. Reluctantly, if relegation means we can see winning attacking football back at Villa Park then it might not be all bad.
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BBC reported VP as "near empty". I actually think 23k is fairly decent considering the current situation and the fact this result was a virtual foregone conclusion.
And was more than turned up at Tescos Smethwick Branch
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The AVTV audio was so poor, I ended up listening to a City feed on their website.
What I found interesting was the commentators had this kind of genuine sympathy for us. The could not believe how easy it was for them or how fat Gabby was. The players, the fans and the club have all given up.
Sucks to be us at the moment
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I was hoping my "he's fat as fuck" version would catch on.
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Last time we were terrible in the FA Cup we responded with a decent league performance against Crystal Palace the following Tuesday. Am hoping it happens again.
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There's no excuses this time chaps
Saturday 3 o'clock kick off, FA Cup tie against title chasing City, tickets at £15 and £10
fans have just had enough, who can blame them
There is a whole generation of kids who we will find it difficult to engage,
my own lad (eight) has only ever seen us being rubbish, he thinks that's what we are, he knows and has seen nothing else, he's living in a TV world of Messi and Ronaldo
He was more interested in seeing Aguero and Silva yesterday, I know they didn't play but the fact is he wasn't excited about anyone playing for Villa, Benteke was his first footballing hero and Delph, both gone
I'm taking him to games and he's still struggling with supporting Villa, any brummie kid or otherwise left to there own devices isn't going to be picking us, they are an absolute embarrassment
I can look back and remember us being league champions and European cup winners young school kids today look back and remember the dizzy heights of finishing 9th
It's a bad thing that's happened
At the game yesterday there was a little lad sat not far from me I overheard his dad talking to him about how his son hadn't even seen a win yet. Felt really sorry for them must be hard taking your kid, trying to get them interested in watching the Villa and then having that garbage served up every week.
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Statistically being the worst team across all divisions over the last 4 years (I think) is bad enough but to do it in this age of the glory hunting, reflected gratification, I want it now, era could royally fuck us up in ways we've just not realized yet.
I'd hate to know how our fan base of under 16's is going these days. And that's just local, you can forget across the world.
Another master stroke of timing from Randy and his band of chancers and dullards.
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Villa, though... they've given up as a club. their fans did no more than shrug and trudge out after our fourth. no remonstrating, no anger, just passive. They're resigned to the Championship and will do nothing to stop themselves, it seems.
A post from Bluemoon forum. Sums it up. Apathy everywhere.
Wonder if this person did the same when Man City were shit and went down?
Or did they not even bother going because they were shit.
Citeh are second only to Blose when it comes to embarressing relegations so I wouldn't be taking too many lectures from them. Infact, they were heading for the Championship and thought that the Thai bloke was their Chinesse hairdresser before the oil money turned up and turned them from panel beaters to world beaters. *
Copyright Big Ron.
Those years never happened. They slipped into the same Mancunian black hole that wiped the memory of 1968-93 from their brothers-in-arrogance.
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There's no excuses this time chaps
Saturday 3 o'clock kick off, FA Cup tie against title chasing City, tickets at £15 and £10
fans have just had enough, who can blame them
There is a whole generation of kids who we will find it difficult to engage,
my own lad (eight) has only ever seen us being rubbish, he thinks that's what we are, he knows and has seen nothing else, he's living in a TV world of Messi and Ronaldo
He was more interested in seeing Aguero and Silva yesterday, I know they didn't play but the fact is he wasn't excited about anyone playing for Villa, Benteke was his first footballing hero and Delph, both gone
I'm taking him to games and he's still struggling with supporting Villa, any brummie kid or otherwise left to there own devices isn't going to be picking us, they are an absolute embarrassment
I can look back and remember us being league champions and European cup winners young school kids today look back and remember the dizzy heights of finishing 9th
It's a bad thing that's happened
Yes john e quite right it's tough turning our youngsters into Villa fans in the world they live in and current situation and not being in the Premier next season will turn another Brummie generation in the wrong direction.
I was taken to my first Villa game when we were in the old Division 3. I was too young to remember what happened late sixties but many people say it was the worst time to be a Villa fan. You can't turn the youngsters into Villa fans, they either see the light or they go and support someone else.
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Last time we were terrible in the FA Cup we responded with a decent league performance against Crystal Palace the following Tuesday. Am hoping it happens again.
We won't be playing Palace for the next 5 years.
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As I queued in the 'season ticket lane' in the ticket office yesterday, a steward told us to cheer up because we had more home games to look forward to next season. Sad times.
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Villa, though... they've given up as a club. their fans did no more than shrug and trudge out after our fourth. no remonstrating, no anger, just passive. They're resigned to the Championship and will do nothing to stop themselves, it seems.
A post from Bluemoon forum. Sums it up. Apathy everywhere.
Truth hurts and it's entirely accurate IMO.
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Villa, though... they've given up as a club. their fans did no more than shrug and trudge out after our fourth. no remonstrating, no anger, just passive. They're resigned to the Championship and will do nothing to stop themselves, it seems.
A post from Bluemoon forum. Sums it up. Apathy everywhere.
It's not wrong, is it? In the match thread I suggested a change of club motto. "Prepared" is inaccurate in every way, except that we're prepared for failure. We're set up perfectly for getting beaten. A more fitting motto would be "Passive".
We've completely given up. From our feckless, half-soaked owner down to the wasters on the pitch, nobody can be arsed. It's little wonder the fans are beginning to feel the same way.
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Villa, though... they've given up as a club. their fans did no more than shrug and trudge out after our fourth. no remonstrating, no anger, just passive. They're resigned to the Championship and will do nothing to stop themselves, it seems.
A post from Bluemoon forum. Sums it up. Apathy everywhere.
It's not wrong, is it? In the match thread I suggested a change of club motto. "Prepared" is inaccurate in every way, except that we're prepared for failure. We're set up perfectly for getting beaten. A more fitting motto would be "Passive".
We've completely given up. From our feckless, half-soaked owner down to the wasters on the pitch, nobody can be arsed. It's little wonder the fans are beginning to feel the same way.
Well I must be one of the few who are still fuming about the fucking pathetic collection of overpaid tossers who let us & themselves down so badly again yesterday. I was in a fowl mood as I switched off the radio after the latest debacle, & the day after I feel just as angry and vengeful. No doubt I'll join the ranks of the passive, beaten majority shortly: but in the meantime I'll respect my anger as being the product of my life-long love for this club; and my disgust at those responsible for its decimation. May the Fleas of a thousand Camels infest their pubic hair.
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This was always a write off for me. We knew what was coming. We knew the only hope of a result rested entirely on the opposition. If Man City showed up in anything above 2nd gear we'd getting utterly fucked. That happened. We're a million miles from then.
The only hope now, is that this result doesn't dent the little bit of confidence we managed to claw back. It's also particularly evident that the only reasonable CH pairing we have at the club is Lescott and Okore. Every other formula seems to result in nothing but shit and Richards for me is actually the weakest link of all. He may on occasion play well as an individual but he's a c**ting awful team player. Probably one of the worst team players we've ever had. He has no awareness of others. No awareness of how his positioning effects others games. He's a fucking abomination with a reputation he doesn't deserve. He has every physical and skil attribute required but unfortunately he's got a steaming pile of cow dung where his bloody brain should be.
The sad part is, and I go back to this again, is O Neills last season. We're above City in the table. John Carew puts us 1-0 up against them. I think it's a March or April game IIRC. In the end they won 3-1 and the ended the season above us. It was probably the first year it looked like their money would begin to show dividends in trophies. The turnaround in both clubs since has been astonishing frankly. If a game every represented such a tragic foreboding shift, it was probably losing that one 3-1 almost 6 years ago. Okay we've never had the best record against them but we've always been on a par, or above them at least, until the last, thoroughly depressing 5 years. We're heading to shitsville and they're winning trophies.
Fuck the fuckers.
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Villa, though... they've given up as a club. their fans did no more than shrug and trudge out after our fourth. no remonstrating, no anger, just passive. They're resigned to the Championship and will do nothing to stop themselves, it seems.
A post from Bluemoon forum. Sums it up. Apathy everywhere.
Truth hurts and it's entirely accurate IMO.
Agree 100%. Apathy rules.
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Apathy Rules OK.
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The first team squad were all at BMH this morning.
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As I queued in the 'season ticket lane' in the ticket office yesterday, a steward told us to cheer up because we had more home games to look forward to next season. Sad times.
And we'll have less stewards working for us too so perhaps not everything is positive
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The first team squad were all at BMH this morning.
I think this is normal practice to prepare for a Tuesday game
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Watching the goals again ( yes that hurt) why do our defenders just stand still and watch ? They seem to be in a different world. It's almost unreal when you watch closely. You wouldn't stand there like that in a Sunday league match..If you can't get to the ball first in your own penalty area then it's time to give up...fkin shocking defending..saying it was amateurish is a slight on all amateur footballers the world over.
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The third goal - It's shockingly bad - probably the zenith of comical, awful goals we've conceded - and there's been hundreds over the last 5 years alone . The corner doesn't even reach the 6 yard box - not one villa player makes a run to near post anyway - overloaded at back post & corner played nowhere near there anyway - ball falls to gana - doesn't try to look / play forward , plays blindly back (under hit / half hearted) , Cissokho (only covering player) positionally is on left touch line - no where near centre of pitch where he can cover both sides equally - and when he does finally react it is too slow - pathetic . Under 11s 9 a side footballers have more tactical nous . Fucking pathetic
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And if Bacuna can defend then I'm an astronaut that can reach the far flung places of the universe without a spacecraft.
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The first team squad were all at BMH this morning.
Learning how to cross a ball hopefully.
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The first team squad were all at BMH this morning.
I heard they were at BHX on a one way ticket to Palookaville
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Have said it for ages that we play just like Barcelona
Only thing is they just seem to everything 30 seconds before us
Yesterday was prime examle
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The third goal - It's shockingly bad - probably the zenith of comical, awful goals we've conceded - and there's been hundreds over the last 5 years alone . The corner doesn't even reach the 6 yard box - not one villa player makes a run to near post anyway - overloaded at back post & corner played nowhere near there anyway - ball falls to gana - doesn't try to look / play forward , plays blindly back (under hit / half hearted) , Cissokho (only covering player) positionally is on left touch line - no where near centre of pitch where he can cover both sides equally - and when he does finally react it is too slow - pathetic . Under 11s 9 a side footballers have more tactical nous . Fucking pathetic
I feel your anger and pain mate.
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I still think the 3rd is the worst goal i've ever seen us concede.
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The first team squad were all at BMH this morning.
Learning how to cross a ball hopefully.
Being introduced to each other
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There's no excuses this time chaps
Saturday 3 o'clock kick off, FA Cup tie against title chasing City, tickets at £15 and £10
fans have just had enough, who can blame them
There is a whole generation of kids who we will find it difficult to engage,
my own lad (eight) has only ever seen us being rubbish, he thinks that's what we are, he knows and has seen nothing else, he's living in a TV world of Messi and Ronaldo
He was more interested in seeing Aguero and Silva yesterday, I know they didn't play but the fact is he wasn't excited about anyone playing for Villa, Benteke was his first footballing hero and Delph, both gone
I'm taking him to games and he's still struggling with supporting Villa, any brummie kid or otherwise left to there own devices isn't going to be picking us, they are an absolute embarrassment
I can look back and remember us being league champions and European cup winners young school kids today look back and remember the dizzy heights of finishing 9th
It's a bad thing that's happened
At the game yesterday there was a little lad sat not far from me I overheard his dad talking to him about how his son hadn't even seen a win yet. Felt really sorry for them must be hard taking your kid, trying to get them interested in watching the Villa and then having that garbage served up every week.
I took my 7 year old son yesterday for about the 6th time this season and we've not even looked like winning any of them.
In total he's been to about 12 Villa games and seen us win once. He's just accepted that us losing is part of the normal match day experience. I actually feel a bit sorry for him as I had so much fun going to games at his age.
I'm actually in two minds whether to take him to games these days in case I put him off for life. There's just no fun at all.
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At least our new Chairman the Man City fan will be happy.
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Maybe you should rename yourself VillaDelph? ;)
I really should change my name
That would be Fab.
I just assumed he lived in Philadelphia.
:)
VillaPhila
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We know what the problem is - we have 5 genuine PL level players - Amavi, Okore, Veretout, Gueye, and Ayew (not surprising these are the most valuable players in our squad) - the rest need to be sold or retired. We need to build a new team around Remi and those 5 (& pray they stick around at the end of the season).
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I agree with the named five...... interestingly our 'committee' purchased 4 of them this summer so maybe all isn't lost and they are going to impress us tomorrow ? 8)
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I still think the 3rd is the worst goal i've ever seen us concede.
The one at Sunderland this season still tops it for me. That was a catalogue of errors and only missing the comedy music in the background.
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I still think the 3rd is the worst goal i've ever seen us concede.
its right up there with Enkelmann and Guzan that's for sure
although Enkelmann was pure unadulterated farce on a different planet
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What makes it the worst for me is the same as FFD said.
2-0 down in a cup match and we have a corner, a chance to get back in the game possibly. Not for us. In typical Villa fashion a professional footballer is unable to get a corner past the first man. That is such a basic 'skill', even I could do it 6/10 and i'm nearly 46 and haven't kicked a ball for years. I'd still back me to put a better corner in.
Anyway, back the story, gather round.
Basic clearance goes to Villa player. Does he think "2-0 down, we have a load of players in attack, i'll get it forward while we have the numbers up." No, he thinks "i'll pass it backwards, that's a good way to score." He does yet another error so basic i'd be pissed off if a school U10 side did it. He passed it back blindly.
I doubt it was even 20 seconds after our corner that the ball was in our net. Not because of some fantastic counter-attacking by Citeh, but because of sheer incompetence by professional footballers paid a small fortune who were incapable of the most basic requirements of a footballer at any level. I'd be livid if Bromsgrove conceded a goal like that and their players are lucky if they get paid expenses at that level.
And that is why it's the worst goal i've seen us concede. Can you tell i'm still really fucked off by it?
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We know what the problem is - we have 5 genuine PL level players - Amavi, Okore, Veretout, Gueye, and Ayew (not surprising these are the most valuable players in our squad) - the rest need to be sold or retired. We need to build a new team around Remi and those 5 (& pray they stick around at the end of the season).
I agree with the named five...... interestingly our 'committee' purchased 4 of them this summer so maybe all isn't lost and they are going to impress us tomorrow ? 8)
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We'll have to replace Gueye because he's going to Manchester United
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Quote fail shame
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Don't knock Gueye, his through ball for the third goal yesterday was sensational.
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What makes it the worst for me is the same as FFD said.
2-0 down in a cup match and we have a corner, a chance to get back in the game possibly. Not for us. In typical Villa fashion a professional footballer is unable to get a corner past the first man. That is such a basic 'skill', even I could do it 6/10 and i'm nearly 46 and haven't kicked a ball for years. I'd still back me to put a better corner in.
Anyway, back the story, gather round.
Basic clearance goes to Villa player. Does he think "2-0 down, we have a load of players in attack, i'll get it forward while we have the numbers up." No, he thinks "i'll pass it backwards, that's a good way to score." He does yet another error so basic i'd be pissed off if a school U10 side did it. He passed it back blindly.
I doubt it was even 20 seconds after our corner that the ball was in our net. Not because of some fantastic counter-attacking by Citeh, but because of sheer incompetence by professional footballers paid a small fortune who were incapable of the most basic requirements of a footballer at any level. I'd be livid if Bromsgrove conceded a goal like that and their players are lucky if they get paid expenses at that level.
And that is why it's the worst goal i've seen us concede. Can you tell i'm still really fucked off by it?
What continues to amaze me I'd that we don't try anything different on corners, if the first few are terrible (which they normally are), why not try something different and try a short corner instead? It's been an issue for years now, bug managers and players seem content to watch awful attempt after another fail to trouble the opposition.
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We know what the problem is - we have 5 genuine PL level players - Amavi, Okore, Veretout, Gueye, and Ayew (not surprising these are the most valuable players in our squad) - the rest need to be sold or retired. We need to build a new team around Remi and those 5 (& pray they stick around at the end of the season).
I agree with the named five...... interestingly our 'committee' purchased 4 of them this summer so maybe all isn't lost and they are going to impress us tomorrow ? 8)
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You've got to laugh.
You're talking about a left back who can't defend, a central midfield pairing who can't create and a forward who tries hard but can't score. They might have had their moments but that doesn't put them in the category of building a team around them.
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Oldhill spot on, this 5 players of genuine Prem quality and we still have won only two games in the league all season, if this was the unwashed tossers from down the road spouting this crap we would be pissing ourselves. The table does not lie.
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To lighten the mood a little. My mate at the match Saturday shouting "Al Wilson" every time Delph got the ball and only me around us getting the northern soul reference.
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http://metro.co.uk/2016/02/01/aston-villa-fans-will-love-this-mascots-reaction-when-fabian-delph-offers-to-shake-his-hand-before-man-city-match-5655742/
good lad ;D
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What makes it the worst for me is the same as FFD said.
2-0 down in a cup match and we have a corner, a chance to get back in the game possibly. Not for us. In typical Villa fashion a professional footballer is unable to get a corner past the first man. That is such a basic 'skill', even I could do it 6/10 and i'm nearly 46 and haven't kicked a ball for years. I'd still back me to put a better corner in.
Anyway, back the story, gather round.
Basic clearance goes to Villa player. Does he think "2-0 down, we have a load of players in attack, i'll get it forward while we have the numbers up." No, he thinks "i'll pass it backwards, that's a good way to score." He does yet another error so basic i'd be pissed off if a school U10 side did it. He passed it back blindly.
I doubt it was even 20 seconds after our corner that the ball was in our net. Not because of some fantastic counter-attacking by Citeh, but because of sheer incompetence by professional footballers paid a small fortune who were incapable of the most basic requirements of a footballer at any level. I'd be livid if Bromsgrove conceded a goal like that and their players are lucky if they get paid expenses at that level.
And that is why it's the worst goal i've seen us concede. Can you tell i'm still really fucked off by it?
What continues to amaze me I'd that we don't try anything different on corners, if the first few are terrible (which they normally are), why not try something different and try a short corner instead? It's been an issue for years now, bug managers and players seem content to watch awful attempt after another fail to trouble the opposition.
I've been assuming they work on things like corners at BMH.
Someone please tell me I'm wrong...they can't possibly work on anything that turns out to be so shit so regularly and consistently.
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One of our corners in the second half led to a goal, don't know what you're all moaning about. Granted it was for Man City, but you can't have everything.
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The ultimate Cornalty.
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One of our corners in the second half led to a goal, don't know what you're all moaning about. Granted it was for Man City, but you can't have everything.
That reminds me of several seasons ago I had managed to get a ticket in the Main stand at the Sty and sat right in the middle of smelly bastards when they played us. The whole match was ultra amusing listening to their shrieks every time we got over the halfway line. They had a corner in the second half it was their first and a chap two rows in front stood up shouting 'McLeish FFS do something Vile are going to score from this"