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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on August 28, 2015, 08:55:53 PM
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May as well start one of these seeing as evidence is mounting this is about to happen. I like it. He's what we need right now at CB, and versatile enough in a pinch to play LB. Left sided CB's give us so much more balance. Throw in experience and the ability to get the odd goal, he'll give us much needed depth at that position for a year or two.
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I wish it had been ten years ago, but I'll give him a chance. An extra left-footed defender, to compete with Clark, makes sense.
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And before they say he's shit and past it they voted him player of the season and we're banging on about him getting an England call up again the dim-witted yokels.
Million quid up front isn't it? Nice little deal for us, gives us better cover at the back, another experienced head.
They're paying £8m for Johnny Evans in the last year of his contract, fools. Berahino is definitely off in that case.
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He's 33.
Do we really need a 33 year old squad player?
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He's 33.
Do we really need a 33 year old squad player?
Why not? A very young side can always use an old head or two around the place, the guy still has it to some degree, it's not like we're signing another Joe Cole who hasn't done bugger all for years. He had a good season last year and will be pushing for a place.
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I have to admit that watching his performance against us in the quarter final has coloured my opinion somewhat as I had been an admirer of his talents before that. Watching him trying to get back to a defensive position after a foray up the pitch was hilarious to watch and there was considerable mirth made where I sit in the Upper Witton Lane.
Nonetheless, an experienced specialist central defender may well be useful in organizing the line.
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He's 33.
Do we really need a 33 year old squad player?
Agreed. Dont see the point. He is way, way past it
I would rather us have signed Jonny Evans
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I'm looking forward to seeing him line up against Small Heath as well. Another Brummie Villa fan who knows what it means.
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He's 33.
Do we really need a 33 year old squad player?
Agreed. Dont see the point. He is way, way past it
I would rather us have signed Jonny Evans
If he was as past it as you claim he wouldn't be plying his trade in the PL still. Let's not forget he was player of the year at Albion last season as well.
Plus it's good to have some experience in team as well.
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He is passed it, had a chance to come before but chose money and his silly gesticulations at the Holte End last season.
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He's 33.
Do we really need a 33 year old squad player?
Agreed. Dont see the point. He is way, way past it
I would rather us have signed Jonny Evans
If he was as past it as you claim he wouldn't be plying his trade in the PL still. Let's not forget he was player of the year at Albion last season as well.
Plus it's good to have some experience in team as well.
Not sure POTY at Albion is any indication of how good he is.classy player at his peak but not now
'Plying his trade'? I think being under a big contract is the reason he is still in the prem.
Daft signing. Similar to Joe cole, rich, injury prone and past it
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Anyone who says he's past it could perhaps come up with their own alternative, good enough to be in the team but equally happy to be third or fourth choice, and available for a couple of million.
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You nay sayers are ridiculous. He's a covering CB. We have a bunch of them now, good.
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Astute signing.
Edit: POTY in a team that finished above us if I recall correctly.
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Anyone who says he's past it could perhaps come up with their own alternative, good enough to be in the team but equally happy to be third or fourth choice, and available for a couple of million.
That's for the manager to do, not those thinking he's past it. And I'm still not convinced he's good enough to be in our team.
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Anyone who says he's past it could perhaps come up with their own alternative, good enough to be in the team but equally happy to be third or fourth choice, and available for a couple of million.
Jonny Evans
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Get him on board.
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POTY doesn't always mean much. Beye was Newcastle's before we signed him, Ireland was once ours.
That said as long as it's only a 2 year contract, I don't mind. Decent cover, can actually score a few and his experience will be a help.
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Anyone who says he's past it could perhaps come up with their own alternative, good enough to be in the team but equally happy to be third or fourth choice, and available for a couple of million.
Jonny Evans
Ruomured to be £6m plus a few million in add ons. No thanks, he's shit.
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Anyone who says he's past it could perhaps come up with their own alternative, good enough to be in the team but equally happy to be third or fourth choice, and available for a couple of million.
That's for the manager to do, not those thinking he's past it. And I'm still not convinced he's good enough to be in our team.
The good old "It's not up to me to say who we should sign" reply/cliche. You're quick enough to say we shouldn't sign him, so why so shy about who we should be getting?
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Good signing if it happens.
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Anyone who says he's past it could perhaps come up with their own alternative, good enough to be in the team but equally happy to be third or fourth choice, and available for a couple of million.
Jonny Evans
Ruomured to be £6m plus a few million in add ons. No thanks, he's shit.
Didn't realise he was that much.
I think Evans is ok at the price
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Anyone who says he's past it could perhaps come up with their own alternative, good enough to be in the team but equally happy to be third or fourth choice, and available for a couple of million.
Jonny Evans
I would prefer to sign a player who is moving up to Aston Villa at the end of his career, rather than a player who is moving down to Aston Villa in the middle of his career.
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Good signing this , welcome joleyn.
Jonny Evans is a dreadful player, £6m + £2m add ons , that is a hilariously bad idea.
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He's 33.
Do we really need a 33 year old squad player?
Agreed. Dont see the point. He is way, way past it
I would rather us have signed Jonny Evans
If he was as past it as you claim he wouldn't be plying his trade in the PL still. Let's not forget he was player of the year at Albion last season as well.
Plus it's good to have some experience in team as well.
Not sure POTY at Albion is any indication of how good he is.classy player at his peak but not now
'Plying his trade'? I think being under a big contract is the reason he is still in the prem.
Daft signing. Similar to Joe cole, rich, injury prone and past it
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hardly one for the future a bit like 'senderos will be a good signing if he can stay fit' a bit like if nzogbia regains his one good half season form, a bit like joe cole can do a job, a bit like if jermaine jenas doesnt get injured
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He's 33.
Do we really need a 33 year old squad player?
Agreed. Dont see the point. He is way, way past it
I would rather us have signed Jonny Evans
If he was as past it as you claim he wouldn't be plying his trade in the PL still. Let's not forget he was player of the year at Albion last season as well.
Plus it's good to have some experience in team as well.
Not sure POTY at Albion is any indication of how good he is.classy player at his peak but not now
'Plying his trade'? I think being under a big contract is the reason he is still in the prem.
Daft signing. Similar to Joe cole, rich, injury prone and past it
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hardly one for the future a bit like 'senderos will be a good signing if he can stay fit' a bit like if nzogbia regains his one good half season form, a bit like joe cole can do a job, a bit like if jermaine jenas doesnt get injured
No-one has said 'if' so it's not like any of those at all. It's not one for the future, it's one for now. It's an experienced head in a young squad for a relative pittance.
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Anyone who says he's past it could perhaps come up with their own alternative, good enough to be in the team but equally happy to be third or fourth choice, and available for a couple of million.
That's for the manager to do, not those thinking he's past it. And I'm still not convinced he's good enough to be in our team.
The good old "It's not up to me to say who we should sign" reply/cliche. You're quick enough to say we shouldn't sign him, so why so shy about who we should be getting?
You started with the clichés. I just have a different opinion. One that I'm entitled to, as is everyone else theirs.
As for your question, I suspect that we are already sufficiently stronger at the back than we were last season. I don't see Lescott as an improvement.
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Our defence has been shite for years . Lescott will improve things and he will be a first choice player. Anyone doubting that hasn't been paying attention.
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I have a funny feeling he's going to move Richards to right back to accommodate him.
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Anyone who says he's past it could perhaps come up with their own alternative, good enough to be in the team but equally happy to be third or fourth choice, and available for a couple of million.
That's for the manager to do, not those thinking he's past it. And I'm still not convinced he's good enough to be in our team.
The good old "It's not up to me to say who we should sign" reply/cliche. You're quick enough to say we shouldn't sign him, so why so shy about who we should be getting?
We have one 'has been' in the squad in Senderos. Why sign another?
If we want experience why not get Evans in. Another £4m is nothing in comparison for a player who is younger, experienced and will have a resale value.
What about Jason Denayer?
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Excellent. What a fantastic summer of signings. Now we just new to gel them together a bit.
Great news.
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Our defence has been shite for years . Lescott will improve things and he will be a first choice player. Anyone doubting that hasn't been paying attention.
With him, Richards, Okore and Clark we would have a really good choice of centre halves. This will be a good signing.
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A little underwhelming but hopefully not the last signing of the window.
What I will say is he is good, experienced cover if the experiment with Richards at CH doesn't come off or Clark reverts to headless chicken mode
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I'll give him a chance but I'm hardly bowled over.
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Anyone who says he's past it could perhaps come up with their own alternative, good enough to be in the team but equally happy to be third or fourth choice, and available for a couple of million.
That's for the manager to do, not those thinking he's past it. And I'm still not convinced he's good enough to be in our team.
The good old "It's not up to me to say who we should sign" reply/cliche. You're quick enough to say we shouldn't sign him, so why so shy about who we should be getting?
You started with the clichés. I just have a different opinion. One that I'm entitled to, as is everyone else theirs.
As for your question, I suspect that we are already sufficiently stronger at the back than we were last season. I don't see Lescott as an improvement.
If you mean centre of defence, Richards over a fit Vlaar marginal, Richards over an in/out injured Vlaar then yes. The others remain the same and overall lacking experience. Baker will never make it at Villa if he is going to remain back up to Clark and I would not risk him as first choice. I want to see if Clark can step up over this season but we need cover for him and Lescott fits the bill for me. If Clark does not improve with another years experience, we will be looking to replace him with better next year and either he is back up or we sell him.
We cannot afford to go out and buy new players for every position. We need to buy ourselves a bit of time for a season and he is a cheap option with experience. He could also be a useful player to come off the bench to tighten the game up at the back. When have we had that option before.
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Might be useful support to the defence.
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Anyone who says he's past it could perhaps come up with their own alternative, good enough to be in the team but equally happy to be third or fourth choice, and available for a couple of million.
That's for the manager to do, not those thinking he's past it. And I'm still not convinced he's good enough to be in our team.
The good old "It's not up to me to say who we should sign" reply/cliche. You're quick enough to say we shouldn't sign him, so why so shy about who we should be getting?
We have one 'has been' in the squad in Senderos. Why sign another?
If we want experience why not get Evans in. Another £4m is nothing in comparison for a player who is younger, experienced and will have a resale value.
What about Jason Denayer?
Senderos is finished, is Evans going to be happy as a squad player, for the amount of games either will play why pay the extra four million and is Denayer going to give us any more than Lescott?
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ITSOTP
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I despair at some of these armchair comments
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If we want experience why not get Evans in. Another £4m is nothing in comparison for a player who is younger, experienced and will have a resale value.
If we do that we could probably just spend fifty quid on a large piece of lumber and save the £6m altogether.
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MK Dons 4-0 Yanited.
Captain and centre back - Jonny Evans
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MK Dons 4-0 Yanited.
Captain and centre back - Jonny Evans
Goalkeeper - David de Gea.
Presumably you wouldn't want him either?
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I despair at some of these armchair comments
As opposed to what.....your opinions?
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I'm happy enough with it although it will leave us with 5 center backs so it'll be interesting to see what happens.
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MK Dons 4-0 Yanited.
Captain and centre back - Jonny Evans
West Brom 1 QPR 4
Centre back - Lescott
Out paced, yes out paced by Bobby Zamorra.
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Anyone who says he's past it could perhaps come up with their own alternative, good enough to be in the team but equally happy to be third or fourth choice, and available for a couple of million.
That's for the manager to do, not those thinking he's past it. And I'm still not convinced he's good enough to be in our team.
The good old "It's not up to me to say who we should sign" reply/cliche. You're quick enough to say we shouldn't sign him, so why so shy about who we should be getting?
You started with the clichés. I just have a different opinion. One that I'm entitled to, as is everyone else theirs.
As for your question, I suspect that we are already sufficiently stronger at the back than we were last season. I don't see Lescott as an improvement.
Well said Chris, I agree with you completely. The first part of your statement that is!
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Anyone who says he's past it could perhaps come up with their own alternative, good enough to be in the team but equally happy to be third or fourth choice, and available for a couple of million.
That's for the manager to do, not those thinking he's past it. And I'm still not convinced he's good enough to be in our team.
The good old "It's not up to me to say who we should sign" reply/cliche. You're quick enough to say we shouldn't sign him, so why so shy about who we should be getting?
You started with the clichés. I just have a different opinion. One that I'm entitled to, as is everyone else theirs.
As for your question, I suspect that we are already sufficiently stronger at the back than we were last season. I don't see Lescott as an improvement.
Well said Chris, I agree with you completely.
I take it you'll not be complaining about our defence for the rest of the season then.
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I'm pleased with this. I've said before, this is a young team...we need experience to guide us through this season. Not next year, this season. Lescott brings this at relatively low cost and minimal risk. He won't play every week, but he'll be coming in to help us keep leads and close out games. It's a no brainer as far as in concerned.
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Lescott will improve us massively
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I'll see how it goes Dave. Might do, might not. If I do, I'll be sure to come up with some alternatives just for you
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I don't think he'll improve us massively, but he'll be a decent signing. Sometimes what you need is a cheap experienced player in the squad. Like we had Regis, Johnsen etc, a player only here for a year or so. Not just as an on the pitch squad player, but useful off it as well. Will also mean that with Okore out, if anything happened to Richards we won't be back to Baker & Clark. And at times we can play Lescott and stick Micah to RB, or even play Lescott at LB if need be.
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Anyone who says he's past it could perhaps come up with their own alternative, good enough to be in the team but equally happy to be third or fourth choice, and available for a couple of million.
That's for the manager to do, not those thinking he's past it. And I'm still not convinced he's good enough to be in our team.
The good old "It's not up to me to say who we should sign" reply/cliche. You're quick enough to say we shouldn't sign him, so why so shy about who we should be getting?
You started with the clichés. I just have a different opinion. One that I'm entitled to, as is everyone else theirs.
As for your question, I suspect that we are already sufficiently stronger at the back than we were last season. I don't see Lescott as an improvement.
Well said Chris, I agree with you completely.
I take it you'll not be complaining about our defence for the rest of the season then.
I think you are missing the point. Most of us agree that the defence needs improving but, in my view, Lescott isn't the answer.
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And Evans is? Really?
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Roy Keane raved about Jonny Evans in his book. £6m sounds a lot for him.
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Evans would improve our back line, he's not a bad player just not good enough for Man Utd
I'm not sure Lescot does, a lot of the same things were being said about Sendeross on here when he signed, so I hope it turns out better
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I reckon Evans will do a Brown/O'Shea. Look quite shit as soon as he is away from the better players of Man Utd. I don't see him as a long term CB for us.
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And Evans is? Really?
Better than Lescott
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He's a decent player beside better defenders. Nothing more.
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Love this signing (assuming it happens).
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Talking to my Boggies mates they would prefer to keep him than sign Evans as his replacement. Glad if he signs, Richards won't last all season and he is good cover.
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I reckon Evans will do a Brown/O'Shea. Look quite shit as soon as he is away from the better players of Man Utd. I don't see him as a long term CB for us.
O'Shay and Brown are right up there with Titus Bramble , they have got to be the worst in the league, Evans isn't as bad as that
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He'll come in with the ability to start when needed, the ability to act as a solid alternative for Clark as required, and very importantly with a mountain of experience and professionalism. He'll be the consummate pro and be a really important positive influence in the dressing room. He isn't the player he once was but he won't let us down when asked to do a job.
Sherwood wanted a winning mentality at the club and he is slowly but surely mixing in that with new players who don't stench of the old and comfortable despair and losing mindset. This is a zero risk signing. We've made a good number of other promising now for the future signings so I don't get why anyone would see their blood pressure go up over this one. An experienced player with a couple of good years left. But each to their own.
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Based on our recent record with centre half injuries five should just about be enough.
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I reckon Evans will do a Brown/O'Shea. Look quite shit as soon as he is away from the better players of Man Utd. I don't see him as a long term CB for us.
O'Shay and Brown are right up there with Titus Bramble , they have got to be the worst in the league, Evans isn't as bad as that
Yet they were both perfectly fine as squad players at Man Utd when surrounded by better. Just like Evans has been.
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I can't see what can possibly be wrong with this signing. Put it another way. How much would you pay for three centre halves of the quality of Clark, Richards and Lescott at today's prices if they were all attached to clubs with time on their contracts? These three we will have picked up for a combined £2.5m in transfer fees not bad I don't think.
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I can't see what can possibly be wrong with this signing. Put it another way. How much would you pay for three centre halves of the quality of Clark, Richards and Lescott at today's prices if they were all attached to clubs with time on their contracts? These three we will have picked up for a combined £2.5m in transfer fees not bad I don't think.
Throw in Okore and Senderos for another £4m, so that's yer lot for about £6.5m
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I had a quick scoot over to RedCafe to read their threads about Evans back when we were linked and they basically say that in Fergie's final two seasons, he was often the first-choice CB whenever healthy and he looked the part in his own right, and plenty thought he would be a long-term option for them. So I think it's a confidence rather than an ability thing with him.
Don't think I would've paid 6 million for him though.
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I think if he comes he'll be first choice for this season at least. Clark is still not quite there yet, although he's not too bad to fall back on if Lescott doesn't cut the mustard (which i very much doubt). Albion fans telling me he's far classier than any other defenders they have or have had in recent years. We have the pace with Richards, Lescott will give ud the steady head. Quality siging and my only complaint is that he hasn't cone sooner.
Johnny Evans for four times as much. Fuck that. I'd sooner Lescott for 12-18 months and then put Clark back in.
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Don't see a down side to this at all. We need experience now and he fits the bill.
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Johnny Evans is pish, he looks Ok in a side that spends most of the time attacking and dominating possession, in the exact same way people used to rave on about Brown, O'Shea etc, they're protected in very good teams. The guy will struggle at West Brom, we've seen it all before.
Very good deal for Man Utd, good money for another average player in his final year.
Lescott, even now, he's the better player.
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I have never rated Johnny Evans. Nor O'Shea although he has been a better player over his career than Evans. Brown could have been a great player if it wasn't for his injury problems. United let him go at the right time I think. I don't think Evans or O'Shea can be talked about in the same class as Brown or Lescott. If we were pinning all our hopes on Lescott at this stage in his career I would be worried but as a defensive option I would be glad to sign him.
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You really can't go wrong for £2m. I can't see him being first choice but Lescott will provide some much needed experience in this team, and will provide cover across the back four...surely a better option than the likes of Baker and Senderos.
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You really can't go wrong for £2m. I can't see him being first choice but Lescott will provide some much needed experience in this team, and will provide cover across the back four...surely a better option than the likes of Baker and Senderos.
In Lescott's case I totally agree. But after Lambert's signings I'm not sure we should use the phrase 'you can't go wrong for £2m.'
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Very pleased with this. He can fight Clark for the LCB spot and provide general cover. Having him on board will provide assurance and some tactical nous, and it also means Baker will probably play 3-4 league games as cover (hopefully less) as opposed to 10-15.
If you were Amavi, who would you prefer to play inside you, Lescott or Baker?
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If I were Amavi I would be quite chuffed that I play left back for Aston Villa.
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Anyone who says he's past it could perhaps come up with their own alternative, good enough to be in the team but equally happy to be third or fourth choice, and available for a couple of million.
That's for the manager to do, not those thinking he's past it.
Yes exactly. We pay a bloke a million pounds plus to do that.
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I'm a bit gutted we are getting Lescott and Albion are getting Evans. Evans is younger and better in my opinion. Baggies getting the better deal, but he's a Villa fan so not that bad a signing.
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All about opinions I guess.
For me Evans is right up there with O'shea and Wes Brown.
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I agree with what others have said about Evans being decent enough in a good side, who do less defending than most and with a significantly better midfield in front of him. Taken out of that environment, then you've got a John O'Shea.
Lescott is a quality player and will add some good experience.
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Evans is distinctly average.
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Thing with Lescott is he reads the game very well, which buys him a bit more time and years in the game. Strong and good with his feet and in the air too.
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I think Lescott will immediately start next to Richards. He had a full season last year with 35 appearances, was player of the year for West Brom and provides must needed experience in the back four, especially next to Amavi. He might be a bit slow at 33, but he has Amavi and Richards next to him. I have seen this player put his head at places that other centre backs don't even think about. He is/was a Villa fan and Sherwood might get the best out of him. And for 1,5m I am very happy with this signing
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The more I think of it the more I could see Lescott starting next to Richards. Two physical centre backs who are good in the air, neither will be dominated. Lescott would be the better of the two in the air with Richards pace covering Lescott who isn't the quickest anymore. If there's one thing Clark lacks, it's a physical prescence, he's beaten too often in the air for my liking and it does undoubtedly cost us goals.
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He's also going to provide much needed guidance to players like Clark and Baker. Also ge can give us an option to move Richards to the right if we need to.
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Anyone who says he's past it could perhaps come up with their own alternative, good enough to be in the team but equally happy to be third or fourth choice, and available for a couple of million.
That's for the manager to do, not those thinking he's past it.
Yes exactly. We pay a bloke a million pounds plus to do that.
We pay a manager to do most of the things that get debated on here but it doesn't stop us talking about them.
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Let's not forget Lescott can do an o.k job at LB aswell if Amavi misses a game so we could keep Clark in and move him to LB.
We've made worse signings, get this one wrapped up over the weekend and then scan deadline day for a decent loan striker from somewhere as we need one.
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Once Lescott comes in I wouldn't be surprised if Baker goes out on loan for a while.
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Yep, that's another good point.
If we do get in a decent striker and I'm sure we will, this summers transfer dealings have been excellent. We just need the manager to bring it all together and we'll have a decent season and hopefully surprise a few teams, pundits and other fans.
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All about opinions I guess.
For me Evans is right up there with O'shea and Wes Brown.
Totally agree, all three of those players are distinctly average and live off the back of being ex Man Utd players. I would take Lescott over any or all three put together.
Evans for the amount that is being reported is hilarious.
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Better late than never I suppose.
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Better late than never I suppose.
It's true. Just like Robbie Keane, a player I always expected to play for us but about 5 years later than I imagined.
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The way I see it is that allowing for football hyper-inflation we're probably not paying more than we did for Colin Calderwood, or even Ronnie Johnsen's signing-on fee, and I expect he'll have the same effect - in years to come his name will crop up occasionally and we'll agree that he did the job we bought him for, he never let us down and it was a pity we couldn't have got him five years earlier.
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A wise old head to settle down the back four. Perfect.
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I'm speaking fairly here to suggest that lescott is at Senderos, Joe Cole level perhaps with a bit of Kevin richardson. I've been advocating Evans but lescott is reasonable. Dominant in air and reasonable on ground positionally improved and great attitude on and off pitch. Would likely see Richards go to right back where he belongs or dove tail with Clark as cb
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I just don't get people talking about bringing in Lescott will allow Richards to move to fullback.
Lescott has never played right side of defence so why do people think it would be no problem. Also, I think Richards came to Villa so he could play centre of defence and Sherwood sold this to him as being his main position.
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Anyone who says he's past it could perhaps come up with their own alternative, good enough to be in the team but equally happy to be third or fourth choice, and available for a couple of million.
Personally I don't think there is the need for the role. We have Baker, Okore and Senderos as reserve CBs. How many do we need?
It will make sense if we can shift Senderos as that well help equalise the extra wages, then I think we need to loan Baker so when Lescott does retire he is ready to step up.
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I'm speaking fairly here to suggest that lescott is at Senderos, Joe Cole level perhaps with a bit of Kevin richardson. I've been advocating Evans but lescott is reasonable. Dominant in air and reasonable on ground positionally improved and great attitude on and off pitch. Would likely see Richards go to right back where he belongs or dove tail with Clark as cb
.?. Kevin Richardson was a great player for us over numerous seasons.
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Anyone who says he's past it could perhaps come up with their own alternative, good enough to be in the team but equally happy to be third or fourth choice, and available for a couple of million.
Personally I don't think there is the need for the role. We have Baker, Okore and Senderos as reserve CBs. How many do we need?
It will make sense if we can shift Senderos as that well help equalise the extra wages, then I think we need to loan Baker so when Lescott does retire he is ready to step up.
All of which have had recent injury problems as has Richards. Who says we need to equalise the wages???
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Two of the reserve CB are currently injured. Which is why we need another one.
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Definitely need both cover and experience, Baker impressed me at times last year but he looks like he has gone backwards from what I saw Tuesday.
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Two of the reserve CB are currently injured. Which is why we need another one.
And seem to be persistently injured.
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Definitely need both cover and experience, Baker impressed me at times last year but he looks like he has gone backwards from what I saw Tuesday.
That's a bit harsh after only 1st team match for a long while.
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I've always liked him, strong, determined and hates losing. At least he won't be scoring against us anymore (unless it's an own goal).
Plus he's related to two of my favourite posters on here, he's not coming for one last pay day, he'll give his all, that's for sure. It's just a shame we're only getting him now.
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Agreed Rudy.
We were close to signing him when he was at Wolves, and O'Neill was keen back in 2008 too.
In the season that Martin Laursen scored six goals, Lescott wasn't far behind either.
A wee bit concerned about where this leaves Clark, but maybe the writing was on the wall when Richards was made captain and Gabby club captain.
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Agreed Rudy.
We were close to signing him when he was at Wolves, and O'Neill was keen back in 2008 too.
In the season that Martin Laursen scored six goals, Lescott wasn't far behind either.
A wee bit concerned about where this leaves Clark, but maybe the writing was on the wall when Richards was made captain and Gabby club captain.
Lescott is not the future but Clark could be. Gabby club captain may have been Sherwood's idea to try and give Gabby a lift out of his slump into mediocrity.
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He's starting for Albion today. Might that be viewed as an indication of something contrary to what everyone is expecting; or simply that they're short of CBs so they can't really afford to sit him even light of an impending transfer?
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Really want to see Lescott signed. Still look weak at the back. He'll add experience and is a good reader of the game.
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WM just said Lescott is 99.9% certain to join Villa on Monday. Medicals, terms etc., to be sorted over the weekend.
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Would probably have done a better job for their second goal than what Clark did.
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Happy with that.
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Funny how Clark has started to look weak again just confirms my belief lescott needs to come in.
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I haven't seen a lot of him recently but sounds exactly what we need, an experienced left sided centre half. Straight into the first eleven for me.
Just need a striker now to take some of the pressure of Gestede and Ayew.
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Sensible signing. Won't cost the earth and will provide some much needed experience and a cool head at the back.
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Funny how Clark has started to look weak again just confirms my belief lescott needs to come in.
I'll give Clark the benefit of doubt that he'll it's early season ringrust. I think he'll get back up to form. He was injured through part of pre-season too, or recovering.
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Sky Sports News breaking news: West Brom sign Jonny Evans from Man Utd on 4 year deal......pretty certain now Lescott will join Villa....
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Funny how Clark has started to look weak again just confirms my belief lescott needs to come in.
I'll give Clark the benefit of doubt that he'll it's early season ringrust. I think he'll get back up to form. He was injured through part of pre-season too, or recovering.
I'd rather take the opinion of experienced international managers such as Trapattoni and O'Neill who rate footballing heavyweights such as Sean St Ledger and Richard Keogh ahead of Clark. Not to mention the literal heavyweights of Richard Dunne and John O'Shea, who many on here seem to consider comically bad defenders.
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Sky Sports News breaking news: West Brom sign Jonny Evans from Man Utd on 4 year deal......pretty certain now Lescott will join Villa....
Could be as early as tomorrow
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I haven't seen a lot of him recently but sounds exactly what we need, an experienced left sided centre half. Straight into the first eleven for me.
Just need a striker now to take some of the pressure of Gestede and Ayew.
Spot on
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For fucks sake - if Lescotts the answer it shows just how low our expectations are right now and how poor the existing CB`s are (even allowing for injuries). Yes, he adds experience and may form a partnership with Richards but it leaves me totally underwhelmed , unless he bags the winners against Small Heath and the Bitters of course ;)
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Two of the reserve CB are currently injured. Which is why we need another one.
And seem to be persistently injured.
Bit unfair on Okore that.
1st injury was when he did his cruciate which is hardly indicative of being injury prone and he's currently recovering from an operation to repair the damage caused by playing the last 4-5 weeks of the season with the sort of niggles and minor strains where he'd normally be rested for a game to get over.
Senderos however is like a bald Vlaar.
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Why would signing an experienced quality player represent low expectations?
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I think Lescott will be great alongside Richards. Experience is vital for the defence. FFS £1.5 - £2M is peanuts in this league - is hardly a gamble at all.
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I wish we'd signed him years ago but can't get excited about signing him now. Just have to wonder how much he has left in the tank. Other players around the same age are starting to struggle (John Terry for one). I suppose it can't do much harm to get him in now though.
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Funny how Clark has started to look weak again just confirms my belief lescott needs to come in.
Made one, costly, mistake today. Other than that he was pretty good. You gonna slate Amavi in the same way? Whilst he had a good game, he also made a few mistakes today that could've led to conceding, like he did last week.
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My concern is that WBA don't want him. If they don't want him, why should we? They're signing Johnny Evans to play instead of him. In my mind, we should be really worried, because Johnny Evans is awful.
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Why would signing an experienced quality player represent low expectations?
Totally agree - experience is important. Might well organise the defence and cut out the stupid errors.
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He was their fans player of the season in May but Pulis obviously doesn't rate him though. As long as he stays fit then it's a decent signing for me.
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Clark was at fault for Palace's first last week as well.
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He is 33, getting slower by the game and he is only going to get slower. Yes he was quality and has experience but his best days are behind him - if we are now into signing ageing centre backs to cover for our long line of crocked existing centre backs I suggest that our expectations are hardly those of a club attempting to get back into the top 10.
I appreciate that it is essentially a short term measure and at low cost but i still consider that we are now happy to scrape along the bottom and merely survive each season ......... unless Sherwood can pull another quality player in from the French League or Blackburn. Its now obviously a struggle to match the ambition of big clubs like Palace, Swansea and Southampton ;) 8)
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For fucks sake - if Lescotts the answer it shows just how low our expectations are right now and how poor the existing CB`s are (even allowing for injuries). Yes, he adds experience and may form a partnership with Richards but it leaves me totally underwhelmed , unless he bags the winners against Small Heath and the Bitters of course ;)
For fuck's sake - it's a squad player for peanuts, not the big signing of the summer. All it shows is how we need a bit of experience and calm head at times.
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My concern is that WBA don't want him. If they don't want him, why should we? They're signing Johnny Evans to play instead of him. In my mind, we should be really worried, because Johnny Evans is awful.
Maybe he just doesn't want them. It's not hard to believe.
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Funny how Clark has started to look weak again just confirms my belief lescott needs to come in.
Made one, costly, mistake today. Other than that he was pretty good. You gonna slate Amavi in the same way? Whilst he had a good game, he also made a few mistakes today that could've led to conceding, like he did last week.
Just been confirmed on wm about lescottFunny how Clark has started to look weak again just confirms my belief lescott needs to come in.
Made one, costly, mistake today. Other than that he was pretty good. You gonna slate Amavi in the same way? Whilst he had a good game, he also made a few mistakes today that could've led to conceding, like he did last week.
He was weak for Dann's goals last week also. I'll criticise Amavi if it makes you feel better yes he was at fault. We're hardly awash with quality left backs however.
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My concern is that WBA don't want him. If they don't want him, why should we? They're signing Johnny Evans to play instead of him. In my mind, we should be really worried, because Johnny Evans is awful.
From what I've been told Pulis thinks he's too slow and there is a major contractual fallout going on.
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Its now obviously a struggle to match the ambition of big clubs like Palace, Swansea and Southampton ;) 8)
Yeah, you'd never get somebody like Palace bringing in say, 34 year old Brede Hangeland as cover for their central defenders.
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For fucks sake - if Lescotts the answer it shows just how low our expectations are right now and how poor the existing CB`s are (even allowing for injuries). Yes, he adds experience and may form a partnership with Richards but it leaves me totally underwhelmed , unless he bags the winners against Small Heath and the Bitters of course ;)
For fuck's sake - it's a squad player for peanuts, not the big signing of the summer. All it shows is how we need a bit of experience and calm head at times.
My bad.... quality signing who will reinforce our shaky defence when called upon ... yet another stroke of genius from Sherwood
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I'm fairly sure that if social media would've been around at the time that more than a few would've been criticising us signing a 'useless, unfit pisshead' from manure all those years ago. But he didn't turn out to be too bad did he?
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For fucks sake - if Lescotts the answer it shows just how low our expectations are right now and how poor the existing CB`s are (even allowing for injuries). Yes, he adds experience and may form a partnership with Richards but it leaves me totally underwhelmed , unless he bags the winners against Small Heath and the Bitters of course ;)
For fuck's sake - it's a squad player for peanuts, not the big signing of the summer. All it shows is how we need a bit of experience and calm head at times.
My bad.... quality signing who will reinforce our shaky defence when called upon ... yet another stroke of genius from Sherwood
You said it.
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Big question is can we sign him for more than his release clause?
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For fucks sake - if Lescotts the answer it shows just how low our expectations are right now and how poor the existing CB`s are (even allowing for injuries). Yes, he adds experience and may form a partnership with Richards but it leaves me totally underwhelmed , unless he bags the winners against Small Heath and the Bitters of course ;)
For fuck's sake - it's a squad player for peanuts, not the big signing of the summer. All it shows is how we need a bit of experience and calm head at times.
My bad.... quality signing who will reinforce our shaky defence when called upon ... yet another stroke of genius from Sherwood
You said it.
If he is half as good as Richard Dunne we will all be delighted ;)
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Yeah a backup defender who won't need to get up to pace of the league and can come straight in when needed. You bastard Timmy!
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The emoticons add such gravitas and insight.
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The emoticons add such gravitas and insight.
???
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The emoticons add such gravitas and insight.
Glad you like them
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After seeing Clark defend like a school girl twice in the last week I am warming to Lescott coming.
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Some valuable experience at the back is very welcome.
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Two years ago we are signing a hot prospect in Okore, snatched from Chelsea. So be it he's injured, we need a little help back there. A bit of experience in Lescott along with Richards is good business surely? We don't half have some dramatic quotes on here at the moment.
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Richards, Okore, Lescott and Clark gives us some good options at centre back. Presumably Baker out on loan to get regular first team football and experience to make him more accomplished - something that he and Clark should have done several years ago.
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If we'd got him five years ago he'd have improved the team but as it is, if it happens, he'll improve the squad.
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Richards, Okore, Lescott and Clark gives us some good options at centre back. Presumably Baker out on loan to get regular first team football and experience to make him more accomplished - something that he and Clark should have done several years ago.
I think they're maybe past the loan stage. They'd end up at some lower league team which may not help them to get any better. Baker did some loans at Lincoln and Millwall.
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I'm pretty sure that Lescott will go straight into the team and would, in my opinion, still represent an upgrade on Clark.
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I don't really see much reason for concern here.
This time last summer, we were buying preparing-for-championship dross like Cole, Richardson and Senderos. That was reason for concern.
This summer we've spent money on significantly more promising players.
What we do need, though, as is pretty obvious from the quickest of looks at our options, is to have a bit of experience / utility spread around the squad.
It's like the people moaning about Crespo. These are players who are brought in to improve the squad. They are not our headline signings of this window, they're being brought in to give us more options where we need them.
If we hadn't bought players of sufficient quality to replace previous guaranteed starters, I'd be as worried as the next man, but we have, haven't we?
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My concern is that WBA don't want him. If they don't want him, why should we? They're signing Johnny Evans to play instead of him. In my mind, we should be really worried, because Johnny Evans is awful.
It really is dominoes that wba wanted Clark for 2 mil and then villa sign lescott after I was championing Evans and Evans has gone to wba allowing wba move to happen. Now I hope we get Hernandez at man u as he's been told he can leave.
Lescott played left back so maybe he'll just be cover for amavi though he could play Richards and him in middle
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Apparently part of the fall out at Baggies has been due to Lescott being used at RB and LB when he's clearly their best CB as opposed to Olsson and McAuley. Pulls decided to pick that pair ahead of Lescott for some reason and its not been a popular decision amongst Baggies fans. If we get Lescott for a short term fix (as suggested by the 2 year deal) for a cheap price then it can only add much needed quality, experience and cover to the squad.
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Olson is a cart horse - there has been a fall out. When we bid for him a few weeks ago, he wanted the opportunity to talk to us - Pulis said no. Why would you drop your player of the year and best central defender according to some baggies fans?
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I agree. My understanding is that its all stemmed from failed contract negotiations and Pulis playing him out of position.
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Not sure we really need lescott. I'd have had him a few years ago, definitely. But you don't end up at albion for no reason. Sooner we got a tried and tested striker in.
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Not sure we really need lescott. I'd have had him a few years ago, definitely. But you don't end up at albion for no reason. Sooner we got a tried and tested striker in.
I'd say we need both. Clark has cost us points in the last two games.
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Clark seems unable to leave the hoof it and hope years behind. You get the impression that the last ditch style of football perpetrated by past managers has destroyed any creativity he might have had. Worth persevering with though.
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Clark seems unable to leave the hoof it and hope years behind. You get the impression that the last ditch style of football perpetrated by past managers has destroyed any creativity he might have had. Worth persevering with though.
I don't mind that so much, it's the committing himself when twice out of position that bothered me.
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Richards, Okore, Lescott and Clark gives us some good options at centre back. Presumably Baker out on loan to get regular first team football and experience to make him more accomplished.
I think that is the key thing. Plus selling Senderos. Otherwise I think it is a bit of a luxury having a 6th CB.
Lescott signing might allow us to loan Bennet out again too.
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I was surprised to see him playing for the bitters yesterday.
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I like Clark but he hasn't started well at all. I don't think having Lescott does us any harm at all.
Can't help but think of the 3-2 game at Goodison when I think of Lescott. When he equalised late on and he "pretended" to throw his shirt into the Villa fans.
He wasnt laughing 2 minutes later!!
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I like Clark but he hasn't started well at all. I don't think having Lescott does us any harm at all.
Can't help but think of the 3-2 game at Goodison when I think of Lescott. When he equalised late on and he "pretended" to throw his shirt into the Villa fans.
He wasnt laughing 2 minutes later!!
Lescott's face when that happened is one if the funniest things I've seen on televised football for ages.
He always used to give it large when scoring against us.
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I like Clark but he hasn't started well at all. I don't think having Lescott does us any harm at all.
Can't help but think of the 3-2 game at Goodison when I think of Lescott. When he equalised late on and he "pretended" to throw his shirt into the Villa fans.
He wasnt laughing 2 minutes later!!
Lescott's face when that happened is one if the funniest things I've seen on televised football for ages.
He always used to give it large when scoring against us.
that's partly why I'm glad he didn't sign for us earlier, because that "what the fuck just happened there?", I'm looking around for anything to blame face was magical. Especially after he gave it the big one in front of the Villa fans after he scored. Moments like that are brilliant.
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I like Clark but he hasn't started well at all. I don't think having Lescott does us any harm at all.
Can't help but think of the 3-2 game at Goodison when I think of Lescott. When he equalised late on and he "pretended" to throw his shirt into the Villa fans.
He wasnt laughing 2 minutes later!!
Lescott's face when that happened is one if the funniest things I've seen on televised football for ages.
He always used to give it large when scoring against us.
He ran directly in my direction sitting in the front row at Goodison and I was that pissed off I left the ground only to hear the roar of the Villa fans cheering the winner just seconds after I left. Would the Everton steward let me back in to celebrate? Not a chance, and I deserved it.
Never leave a game early.
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I wonder what his brother Aaron thinks of it all. He was out original Lescott.
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Lescott and Richards are big mates and travel down to training together each day. I imagine Micah is getting fed up having to come off the M6 at Great Barr when he could come down the toll road quicker to Bodymoor and has been giving Joleon some earache over it. No doubt the toll will be part of the contract.
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Not sure we really need lescott. I'd have had him a few years ago, definitely. But you don't end up at albion for no reason. Sooner we got a tried and tested striker in.
I'd say we need both. Clark has cost us points in the last two games.
As has amavi ! so a left sided defender makes sense.
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I like Clark but he hasn't started well at all. I don't think having Lescott does us any harm at all.
Can't help but think of the 3-2 game at Goodison when I think of Lescott. When he equalised late on and he "pretended" to throw his shirt into the Villa fans.
He wasnt laughing 2 minutes later!!
Lescott's face when that happened is one if the funniest things I've seen on televised football for ages.
He always used to give it large when scoring against us.
He ran directly in my direction sitting in the front row at Goodison and I was that pissed off I left the ground only to hear the roar of the Villa fans cheering the winner just seconds after I left. Would the Everton steward let me back in to celebrate? Not a chance, and I deserved it.
Never leave a game early.
Fully agree. Only weak minded bumders leave early.
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He gets some interesting tweets.
callactico
callactico – @callactico
Fair do's on winning medals, but you're still a money grabbing ******. https://twitter.com/joleonlescott/status/636607897804369920 …
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Not sure we really need lescott. I'd have had him a few years ago, definitely. But you don't end up at albion for no reason. Sooner we got a tried and tested striker in.
I'd say we need both. Clark has cost us points in the last two games.
As has amavi ! so a left sided defender makes sense.
But Amavi has only just come into the team from overseas so deserves a bit of time. He also balances it out by offering plenty going forwards ( like the cross to Sinclair for the second goal yesterday). Clark has been fucking it up regularly for 3 or 4 years, and if he can't be relied upon by now he probably never will. He's good enough for the squad but not as first choice. Lescott is definately required.
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Any updates on this? Looked all but dome on Saturday night - Collymore tweeted: ''Lescott deal, all but done'' Or is Peace playing this out?
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imagine Julian and Gervinho in the same side - Kilinon wars!
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scrub that keyboard needs a new battery
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Klingon Wars. !
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Klingon Wars. !
Still sick.
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imagine Julian and Gervinho in the same side - Kilinon wars!
Gervinho is in some kind of race with Nasser Hussain to see who's fringe can back peddle fastest.
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Lescot will make mistakes just like Clark and every other defender from time to time
Anyone thinking Lescott is going to come in and be the perfect CB will be very disappointed
Yes he will do some good things and improve us at certain times but will probably make just as many bloopers if not more than Clark especially considering his age and the fact he won't be getting any faster/better/younger
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Any updates on this? Looked all but dome on Saturday night - Collymore tweeted: ''Lescott deal, all but done'' Or is Peace playing this out?
I reckon they will keep us waiting till the last minute. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't let him join after all.
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Bank holiday isn't it. Everywheres closed.
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Bank holiday isn't it. Everywheres closed.
Thomasland isn't. Unfortunately.
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Oh dear that sounds horrendous in this weather.
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We haven't set out yet but it shuts at five so we can't put it off much longer.
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I did it in the pissing rain the first time I took the boy, and we had a great time as no other fucker bothered.
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I did it in the pissing rain the first time I took the boy, and we had a great time as no other fucker bothered.
Bank holiday isn't it. Everywheres closed.
Thomasland isn't. Unfortunately.
down the hills and round the bends
Thomas and his Friends
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I did it in the pissing rain the first time I took the boy, and we had a great time as no other fucker bothered.
Bank holiday isn't it. Everywheres closed.
Thomasland isn't. Unfortunately.
down the hills and round the bends
Thomas and his Friends
I live near Thomas Land
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I did it in the pissing rain the first time I took the boy, and we had a great time as no other fucker bothered.
Bank holiday isn't it. Everywheres closed.
Thomasland isn't. Unfortunately.
down the hills and round the bends
Thomas and his Friends
I live near Thomas Land
Just sat down for a cup of tea, having a great time.
Back on topic - Messi just checked in to the Drayton Manor Hotel.
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isn't he a bit old for the teacups?
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I did it in the pissing rain the first time I took the boy, and we had a great time as no other fucker bothered.
Bank holiday isn't it. Everywheres closed.
Thomasland isn't. Unfortunately.
down the hills and round the bends
Thomas and his Friends
I live near Thomas Land
Just sat down for a cup of tea, having a great time.
Back on topic - Messi just checked in to the Drayton Manor Hotel.
That's a smart move by Tom Fox, who'd think of looking there to see who it is we're going to sign before tomorrow night.
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Bank holiday isn't it. Everywheres closed.
Thomasland isn't. Unfortunately.
Post Office Vaults is open had a bottle of René Cuvee Ould Guezue and Gauden Carolus Classic.
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For some reason my clueless Baggies supporting mate reckons we'll end up with Olsson not Lescott.
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For some reason my clueless Baggies supporting mate reckons we'll end up with Olsson not Lescott.
You don't need people like that in your life.
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I did it in the pissing rain the first time I took the boy, and we had a great time as no other fucker bothered.
Bank holiday isn't it. Everywheres closed.
Thomasland isn't. Unfortunately.
down the hills and round the bends
Thomas and his Friends
I live near Thomas Land
Just sat down for a cup of tea, having a great time.
Back on topic - Messi just checked in to the Drayton Manor Hotel.
MK Museum for me, which was great on a rainy day
Now in wetherspoons eating chicken nuggets and chips... Not great if I'm honest
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Get yourself on those Troublesome Trucks Percy!!
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Pretty pleased with the song I've chosen for him, might need to change one or two or the lyrics but should be ok...
"Joleon, Joleon, Joleon, Joleon
I'm begging of you please don't take my man
Joleon, Joleon, Joleon, Joleon
Please don't take him just because you can
Your beauty is beyond compare
With flaming locks of auburn hair
With ivory skin and eyes of emerald green
Your smile is like a breath of spring
Your voice is soft like summer rain
And I cannot compete with you, Joleon
He talks about you in his sleep
There's nothing I can do to keep
From crying when he calls your name, Joleon
And I can easily understand
How you could easily take my man
But you don't know what he means to me, Joleon
Joleon, Joleon, Joleon, Joleon
I'm begging of you please don't take my man
Joleon, Joleon, Joleon, Joleon
Please don't take him just because you can
You could have your choice of men
But I could never love again
He's the only one for me, Joleon
I had to have this talk with you
My happiness depends on you
And whatever you decide to do, Joleon
Joleon, Joleon, Joleon, Joleon
I'm begging of you please don't take my man
Joleon, Joleon, Joleon, Joleon
Please don't take him even though you can
Joleon, Joleon"
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Catchy.
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Pretty pleased with the song I've chosen for him, might need to change one or two or the lyrics but should be ok...
And must be sung by Dolly.
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Pretty pleased with the song I've chosen for him, might need to change one or two or the lyrics but should be ok...
And must be sung by Dolly.
I don't know - cdvillafan is a big enough tit to get away with it.
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Pretty pleased with the song I've chosen for him, might need to change one or two or the lyrics but should be ok...
"Joleon, Joleon, Joleon, Joleon
I'm begging of you please don't take my man
Joleon, Joleon, Joleon, Joleon
Please don't take him just because you can
Your beauty is beyond compare
With flaming locks of auburn hair
With ivory skin and eyes of emerald green
Your smile is like a breath of spring
Your voice is soft like summer rain
And I cannot compete with you, Joleon
He talks about you in his sleep
There's nothing I can do to keep
From crying when he calls your name, Joleon
And I can easily understand
How you could easily take my man
But you don't know what he means to me, Joleon
Joleon, Joleon, Joleon, Joleon
I'm begging of you please don't take my man
Joleon, Joleon, Joleon, Joleon
Please don't take him just because you can
You could have your choice of men
But I could never love again
He's the only one for me, Joleon
I had to have this talk with you
My happiness depends on you
And whatever you decide to do, Joleon
Joleon, Joleon, Joleon, Joleon
I'm begging of you please don't take my man
Joleon, Joleon, Joleon, Joleon
Please don't take him even though you can
Joleon, Joleon"
Are you Paul Franks in disguise?
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Pretty pleased with the song I've chosen for him, might need to change one or two or the lyrics but should be ok...
And must be sung by Dolly.
Please, we don't need that fucknugget back in any way , shape or form.
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Get yourself on those Troublesome Trucks Percy!!
Ha! I did!
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Back on topic, nothing at all on this deal today??
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Nothing will happen until tomorrow. Everyone from the Albion are at Weston-Super-Mare today.
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Nothing will happen until tomorrow. Everyone from the Albion are at Weston-Super-Mare today.
Stourport.
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I saw their bus turn into Drayton Manor Park earlier today and there was no sign of Berahino who is waiting outside the gates at White Hart Lane.
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Nothing will happen until tomorrow. Everyone from the Albion are at Weston-Super-Mare today.
Stourport.
That must explain all the Ford Cortinas on the A449 when I came up earlier today.
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Nothing will happen until tomorrow. Everyone from the Albion are at Weston-Super-Mare today.
Sourport.
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Nothing will happen until tomorrow. Everyone from the Albion are at Weston-Super-Mare today.
Stourport.
That must explain all the Ford Cortinas on the A449 when I came up earlier today.
So they've ditched their hoss-n-carts then?
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Not sure how he will cope at yourselves personally.
At our place where attacking is frowned upon he excels because we're compact, organised and very rarely stretched so he is able to defend deep and defend well. From that point he is a good defender.
I look at the Villa backline and the way I think Sherwood will set you up and then raise questions about whether he is suitable. You're going to be more open, not as well organised and probably further up the pitch than we are. When Lescott is exposed you have a problem because his legs are going with his age - bloody Zamora out-sprinted him last season! Your new left-back looks a more attacking full back and that is going to leave Lescott exposed down the channels and at that point you will have problems. If Sherwood sets you up similar to ourselves then you have a good defender on your hands.
He's our highest earner and now 33 years of age - getting him off the books will appeal - especially when he has been replaced by a good defender who is younger than him.
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Great post Liam, thanks. Until replaced by a good defender lol!
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Not sure how he will cope at yourselves personally.
At our place where attacking is frowned upon he excels because we're compact, organised and very rarely stretched so he is able to defend deep and defend well. From that point he is a good defender.
I look at the Villa backline and the way I think Sherwood will set you up and then raise questions about whether he is suitable. You're going to be more open, not as well organised and probably further up the pitch than we are. When Lescott is exposed you have a problem because his legs are going with his age - bloody Zamora out-sprinted him last season! Your new left-back looks a more attacking full back and that is going to leave Lescott exposed down the channels and at that point you will have problems. If Sherwood sets you up similar to ourselves then you have a good defender on your hands.
He's our highest earner and now 33 years of age - getting him off the books will appeal - especially when he has been replaced by a good defender who is younger than him.
True,but I thought you were signing Johnny Evans.
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True,but I thought you were signing Johnny Evans.
We have. A very good signing he is too.
Will fit the Pulis mould very well in my view.
Had Lescott been five years or more younger and a bit more mobile then I imagine we would have put up more of a fight to keep him.
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Had he been five years younger, he'd be at a club better than either of us.
The stuff you put about him having lost his pace is a bit of a worry as it backs up what I thought based on the few times I saw him last year.
I suppose Sherwood thinks Richards will have enough pace to cover and that Joleon's experience and positioning will negate the effects of his diminishing speed.
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Sorry but Evans is very poor, back in the mould of O'Shea, Brown etc. I would have been gutted if we had bought him. I don't think Lescott will be the saviour of our defence, but Evans is not the answer to yours.
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Is Evans a good signing Liam because he'll be good at flick ons and running on to long throw ins?
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Had he been five years younger, he'd be at a club better than either of us.
The stuff you put about him having lost his pace is a bit of a worry as it backs up what I thought based on the few times I saw him last year.
I suppose Sherwood thinks Richards will have enough pace to cover and that Joleon's experience and positioning will negate the effects of his diminishing speed.
His biggest asset was his experience and leadership that he gave to the others - especially Chris Brunt who is relatively new to playing at full-back. Those qualities alone make him stand out. Unfortunately we saw at times towards the back end of last season where those legs were starting to fade away and uncharacteristic mistakes started appearing in his game. He played on Saturday at full-back however and was very good although the fact we were facing 9 men might have aided that.
I think he will be good for the likes of Kieren Clark and the lad Baker if he is still with yourselves. His art of defending will be good for them to learn from. I think Clark is a bit rash and sometimes reckless in his decision making - Lescott strikes me as the type of character who will guide somebody through that.
We played Tottenham last year and Dawson went flying into a tackle which he missed. Lescott had words with him during a break of play and it became noticeable throughout that game and as the season progressed that Dawson started jockeying more rather than going full-bloodied into tackle.
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Is Evans a good signing Liam because he'll be good at flick ons and running on to long throw ins?
Loffin. ;D
Good defender Jonny Evans - had a tough time recently with injuries which have knocked him back. He will suit what Pulis wants - an experienced, no-nonsense, tough defender in a tight, organised back four. He's also a much better footballer than anything else we have at the back but I don't think that's a trait we will utilise very well.
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Seriously?? Tough? Not sure you and I have watched the same Evans. As a second centre half he is ok, but won't he end up as a full back in the Pulis centre half formation?
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I get that Lescott is slow but Olson is a bloody donkey
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Seriously?? Tough? Not sure you and I have watched the same Evans. As a second centre half he is ok, but won't he end up as a full back in the Pulis centre half formation?
He's from Norn Iron.
We're all tough from there ;D
And yes, he will end up at full back no doubt ;D
I get that Lescott is slow but Olson is a bloody donkey
I agree with this too.
D'ya want him? ;D
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Seriously?? Tough? Not sure you and I have watched the same Evans. As a second centre half he is ok, but won't he end up as a full back in the Pulis centre half formation?
He's from Norn Iron.
We're all tough from there ;D
And yes, he will end up at full back no doubt ;D
I get that Lescott is slow but Olson is a bloody donkey
I agree with this too.
D'ya want him? ;D
No Ta, we like our Vikings real, Melberg, Neilsen, Laursen types.
How do you like the Anti English Norn Iron Looney?
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To be fair you don't go to The Albion after Man U if you are any good at this level. He may just do a job but that says more about Pulis and his anti-football approach than Evans. How long you going to give Pulis before you start thinking as a fan base (no sniggering at the back) that you want more for and from your team and club? Surely living to exist isn't anything to enjoy?
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Not sure how he will cope at yourselves personally.
At our place where attacking is frowned upon he excels because we're compact, organised and very rarely stretched so he is able to defend deep and defend well. From that point he is a good defender.
I look at the Villa backline and the way I think Sherwood will set you up and then raise questions about whether he is suitable. You're going to be more open, not as well organised and probably further up the pitch than we are. When Lescott is exposed you have a problem because his legs are going with his age - bloody Zamora out-sprinted him last season! Your new left-back looks a more attacking full back and that is going to leave Lescott exposed down the channels and at that point you will have problems. If Sherwood sets you up similar to ourselves then you have a good defender on your hands.
He's our highest earner and now 33 years of age - getting him off the books will appeal - especially when he has been replaced by a good defender who is younger than him.
Exactly how I see it too, his legs are gone and if we defend high up the pitch he will struggle, especially with the gaps Amavi leaves.
Clark had a shocker against Sunderland and needs to cut out his dirty tackles but is 8 years younger.
We have just given two left sided centre halves new contracts, bringing in another one at 33 yrs of age on big wages is MON type thinking that got us in trouble.
Hope this signing doesn't happen. Victor Valdez though...
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Surely if Lescott comes to Villa then he'd be second choice behind Clark and assist with advising/coaching our younger players to make them a more organised unit? Our inexperienced defensive unit could do with a wise head to organise and manage them correctly so I think (and hope) this is where Lescott will prove invaluable in addition to appearances in cup games.
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We have just given two left sided centre halves new contracts, bringing in another one at 33 yrs of age on big wages is MON type thinking that got us in trouble.
Well let's see when the window finally closes, including loans, whether Sherwood has been strategic or scatter gun. Time will tell but if he does get it wrong he'll only have himself to blame. We currently have 5 centre forwards realistically fighting for one shirt so I'm not going to hold my breath.
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I am not against the signing of Lescott, but I feel that the signing of a real commanding type keeper who marshalls the defence would have the same effect. If the defence do not have a great deal of confidence in the keeper it shows in rash decision making. Put a dominating keeper in there and the defence looks more solid because the rash challenges are cut out.
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5x CFs?...or are you counting Sinclair?
Gabby
Gestede
Ayew
Kozak
Sinclair?
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I am not against the signing of Lescott, but I feel that the signing of a real commanding type keeper who marshalls the defence would have the same effect. If the defence do not have a great deal of confidence in the keeper it shows in rash decision making. Put a dominating keeper in there and the defence looks more solid because the rash challenges are cut out.
Thats a good shout. When was the last time we had a truly confident and dominating goalkeeper? Schmeichel?
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5x CFs?...or are you counting Sinclair?
Gabby
Gestede
Ayew
Kozak
Sinclair?
Of course. He's no winger and the centre forward role seems to suit his talents.
The only way I could understand bringing in Lescott is if we send Baker out on loan to one of the richer Championship clubs with the hope he does well and we sell them to him next summer.
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Not sure how he will cope at yourselves personally.
At our place where attacking is frowned upon he excels because we're compact, organised and very rarely stretched so he is able to defend deep and defend well. From that point he is a good defender.
I look at the Villa backline and the way I think Sherwood will set you up and then raise questions about whether he is suitable. You're going to be more open, not as well organised and probably further up the pitch than we are. When Lescott is exposed you have a problem because his legs are going with his age - bloody Zamora out-sprinted him last season! Your new left-back looks a more attacking full back and that is going to leave Lescott exposed down the channels and at that point you will have problems. If Sherwood sets you up similar to ourselves then you have a good defender on your hands.
He's our highest earner and now 33 years of age - getting him off the books will appeal - especially when he has been replaced by a good defender who is younger than him.
Exactly how I see it too, his legs are gone and if we defend high up the pitch he will struggle, especially with the gaps Amavi leaves.
Clark had a shocker against Sunderland and needs to cut out his dirty tackles but is 8 years younger.
We have just given two left sided centre halves new contracts, bringing in another one at 33 yrs of age on big wages is MON type thinking that got us in trouble.
Hope this signing doesn't happen. Victor Valdez though...
Although you're right mostly where I think he is worthwhile is that he'll be a talker. If he can see trouble he'll be able to shout to Sanchez and/or Westwood or whoever to hold tight, to cover a run, or to his captain to cover a run behind him with his speed. And remember Clark is no speed merchant either. Lescott for Clark in that respect is no serious giveaway.
It's not that long ago he was an England international and whilst his legs have gone I think we need an organiser, a talker, and someone who is vastly experienced. It's a risk, yes, but at the moment not a huge one. Where Clark came on last season he seems to have gone back as much at the start of this season. He is definitely an upgrade on the 2015-16 Clark and he can pass a ball too. As well as being a threat for set-pieces at the other end. I think he is a start not the end solution so how small an upgrade he may be I think we've got more to win if he works out that we stand to lose should it not.
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Well the key to success for an ageing CB is speed of mind rather than speed of movement...Lescott isn't on the same level of God by any stretch of the imagination but if he can use his experience to his and the teams advantage then lets hope he doesn't find himself compromised by being caught out of position. Hopefully he'll help instil that discipline, communication and organisation we're missing at the back...and hopefully that will reduce the number of goals conceded due to stupid mistakes and lack of concentration at the end of a game.
Of course. He's no winger and the centre forward role seems to suit his talents.
I agree. He's not a natural CF but he's definitely the best of a bad bunch at the moment so deserves his place, and he's better off utilised in that role with Traore, Grealish and Gil to accommodate in the team.
I'd like us to sign another CF, which would mean that Sinclair is likely to be one of the 3 rotating midfielders, but to be fair to TS, even if we dont sign another CF, at least we have half decent player and formation change options coming from the bench if we need to make changes during a game (which we haven't been able to say for a good while).
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Sky Sports (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11677/9974482/joleon-lescott-set-for-aston-villa-after-fee-agreed-with-west-brom?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
Joleon Lescott set for Aston Villa after fee agreed with West Brom
Last Updated: 01/09/15 12:10am
Aston Villa have agreed a fee with West Brom for central defender Joleon Lescott, according to Sky sources.
Lescott will undergo a medical with Aston Villa on Tuesday and, all going well, will then complete his transfer for a fee of £1m, which could rise to £2m.
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As long as the contract isn't too long (two years is ideal; three is a little dicey but no problem if he stays healthy; four would be MON territory but I've got enough faith that they won't be that stupid), it's a very handy piece of business.
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I see this as a great season defensive strenghthener.
This guy ain't no mug, voted fans player last year, all baggies friends I have are gutted to be losing him.
I'm hoping okore can get back soon and partner Lescott, moving Richards to a much needed RB.
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Not sure how he will cope at yourselves personally.
At our place where attacking is frowned upon he excels because we're compact, organised and very rarely stretched so he is able to defend deep and defend well. From that point he is a good defender.
I look at the Villa backline and the way I think Sherwood will set you up and then raise questions about whether he is suitable. You're going to be more open, not as well organised and probably further up the pitch than we are. When Lescott is exposed you have a problem because his legs are going with his age - bloody Zamora out-sprinted him last season! Your new left-back looks a more attacking full back and that is going to leave Lescott exposed down the channels and at that point you will have problems. If Sherwood sets you up similar to ourselves then you have a good defender on your hands.
He's our highest earner and now 33 years of age - getting him off the books will appeal - especially when he has been replaced by a good defender who is younger than him.
Exactly how I see it too, his legs are gone and if we defend high up the pitch he will struggle, especially with the gaps Amavi leaves.
Clark had a shocker against Sunderland and needs to cut out his dirty tackles but is 8 years younger.
We have just given two left sided centre halves new contracts, bringing in another one at 33 yrs of age on big wages is MON type thinking that got us in trouble.
Hope this signing doesn't happen. Victor Valdez though...
Although you're right mostly where I think he is worthwhile is that he'll be a talker. If he can see trouble he'll be able to shout to Sanchez and/or Westwood or whoever to hold tight, to cover a run, or to his captain to cover a run behind him with his speed. And remember Clark is no speed merchant either. Lescott for Clark in that respect is no serious giveaway.
It's not that long ago he was an England international and whilst his legs have gone I think we need an organiser, a talker, and someone who is vastly experienced. It's a risk, yes, but at the moment not a huge one. Where Clark came on last season he seems to have gone back as much at the start of this season. He is definitely an upgrade on the 2015-16 Clark and he can pass a ball too. As well as being a threat for set-pieces at the other end. I think he is a start not the end solution so how small an upgrade he may be I think we've got more to win if he works out that we stand to lose should it not.
To be fair Clark was probably our best player in the first two games which has been quickly forgotten. His errors have cost us 2 of the last 3 goals but if he can cut out his dirty tackles and constant yellow cards, he can come good again.
If Lescott isn't going to offer more pace than Clark then he is a bit of a pointless signing. Lescott never struck me as much of an organizer to be honest either and this lifelong Villa fan lark should be irrelevant.
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Albion fan in 'Lescott is a bit shit now' shocker after their Player of the Year moves to the big club up the road.
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In fairness, Liam's usually a good lad.
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In fairness, Liam's usually a good lad.
And it seemed like a pretty reasonable analysis to me.
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Completed his medical according to Sky.
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I hope we get this deal over the line soon another experienced defender coming in.
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Completed his medical according to Sky.
and passed? At his age :o
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Completed his medical according to Sky.
and passed? At his age :o
bet it was free as well, medical cost me £99 to renew my HGV license
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£1m fee on 2 year deal apparently.
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Good signing. Our best centre-half.
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Welcome Joleon.
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Good signing. Our 3rd best centre-half.
I think that is what you meant to type.
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Welcome Joleon.
Home debut will be against the Baggies on the 19th Sept!
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I hope we get this deal over the line soon another experienced defender coming in.
this
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Official.
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Dunne. Given. Ireland. Sinclair. Richards. Lescott.
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Deal completed now - welcome Joleon better late than never.
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Good man, welcome Joleon.
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majQa' Joleon.
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And clearly what both Stan Collymore and Ian Taylor were referring to in their tweets. Must have been a long time in the pipeline.
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So would you put him straight in against Leicester?
And when fit where does this leave Jores?
And as much as I like him Clark still "switches off" in key parts of the game so I see this as a good opportunity to learn
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welcome Joleon!
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Pleased with this one. Welcome Joleon, better late than never.
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Welcome Villa-fanatic J Lescott
First job at Bodymoor Heath - tell them how to beat Manchester-bloody-United!
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Welcome Joleon. Make a name for yourself!!
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good back-up given the injuries Okore et al have. I'd still say that Richards and Okore are the first choice centre-back pairing
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Welcome Mr. Lescott, do us proud
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No problem with that. Experienced and an upgrade on Vlaar. He's also liable to play more than Senderos, Baker (were he not out on loan) and possibly Okore and most certainly he should managed to be fit a lot more often than Vlaar.
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Great move this. Looking forward to some cohesion at the back.
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Currently an upgrade on Baker so can't complain
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i'm not sure he's an upgrade on Vlaar to be honest, maybe about the same
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He played 35 times last year, that's a huge upgrade on Vlaar.
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I'm liking the amount of Brummies in our team at the moment.
Just need to nick Berahino now.
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i'm not sure he's an upgrade on Vlaar to be honest, maybe about the same
Speaking of whom....I know he's injured so won't be going anywhere that soon but his 'step up' ambition isn't looking that good with Southampton having signed Van Djik. I'd imagine our offer on the table is on it's way to the bin as well with Lescott signed.
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You leave our club at your peril - sometimes the grass isn't always greener.
Benteke - 1 offside goal in 4 games.
Delph - 23 minutes game time and three weeks of injuries.
Cleverley - 8 weeks out injured.
Vlaar - injured and in oblivion.
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has Lescott left already then?
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i'm not sure he's an upgrade on Vlaar to be honest, maybe about the same
Speaking of whom....I know he's injured so won't be going anywhere that soon but his 'step up' ambition isn't looking that good with Southampton having signed Van Djik. I'd imagine our offer on the table is on it's way to the bin as well with Lescott signed.
I actually feel sorry for Vlaar.
I know he's still set for life, and will get a club eventually, but if you look at not much more than a year ago, he was about to become a free agent and having a brilliant world cup. His stock couldn't have been higher.
Only to have a horrible course of events pan out for him.
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has Lescott left already then?
Yes, he has signed for us but we have immediately farmed him out on loan to Bristol Rovers.
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i'm not sure he's an upgrade on Vlaar to be honest, maybe about the same
Speaking of whom....I know he's injured so won't be going anywhere that soon but his 'step up' ambition isn't looking that good with Southampton having signed Van Djik. I'd imagine our offer on the table is on it's way to the bin as well with Lescott signed.
I actually feel sorry for Vlaar.
I know he's still set for life, and will get a club eventually, but if you look at not much more than a year ago, he was about to become a free agent and having a brilliant world cup. His stock couldn't have been higher.
Only to have a horrible an inevitable course of events pan out for him.
fixed
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Welcome Joleon.
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Welcome Joleon.
relax Darren. It's not that exciting a signing.
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Forget Dolly, play Strawberry Switchblade.
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i'm not sure he's an upgrade on Vlaar to be honest, maybe about the same
Speaking of whom....I know he's injured so won't be going anywhere that soon but his 'step up' ambition isn't looking that good with Southampton having signed Van Djik. I'd imagine our offer on the table is on it's way to the bin as well with Lescott signed.
I actually feel sorry for Vlaar.
I know he's still set for life, and will get a club eventually, but if you look at not much more than a year ago, he was about to become a free agent and having a brilliant world cup. His stock couldn't have been higher.
Only to have a horrible course of events pan out for him.
Fuck him. Rarely fit, often shit, thought he could do better than the Villa.
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Welcome Joleon.
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Have we signed him as JoLeon was the nearest name we could find to Jordan?
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With Lescott, Richards and Gestede are we a threat from set pieces yet?
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We got a penalty from a set piece on Saturday, didn't we? And scored from one in the first game.
So, yes.
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With Lescott, Richards and Gestede are we a threat from set pieces yet?
Just imagine of someone can whip corners into dangerous areas with pace rather than just floating them up.
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We were putting more pacey corners in on Saturday, which is nice, I never liked those floaty ones.
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Just seen the pictures, he has fucking awful tattoos.
Welcome and may you be great.
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We were putting more pacey corners in on Saturday, which is nice, I never liked those floaty ones.
Floaty ones are always difficult to get down
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i'm not sure he's an upgrade on Vlaar to be honest, maybe about the same
Speaking of whom....I know he's injured so won't be going anywhere that soon but his 'step up' ambition isn't looking that good with Southampton having signed Van Djik. I'd imagine our offer on the table is on it's way to the bin as well with Lescott signed.
I actually feel sorry for Vlaar.
I know he's still set for life, and will get a club eventually, but if you look at not much more than a year ago, he was about to become a free agent and having a brilliant world cup. His stock couldn't have been higher.
Only to have a horrible course of events pan out for him.
Fuck him. Rarely fit, often shit, thought he could do better than the Villa.
He tried to play this system and lost. Hard cheese.
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Yep. I've no sympathy. He's just another Alpay. Decent, but hardly spectacular, defender who did well at a World Cup and decided he was better than the Villa.
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i'm not sure he's an upgrade on Vlaar to be honest, maybe about the same
Speaking of whom....I know he's injured so won't be going anywhere that soon but his 'step up' ambition isn't looking that good with Southampton having signed Van Djik. I'd imagine our offer on the table is on it's way to the bin as well with Lescott signed.
I actually feel sorry for Vlaar.
I know he's still set for life, and will get a club eventually, but if you look at not much more than a year ago, he was about to become a free agent and having a brilliant world cup. His stock couldn't have been higher.
Only to have a horrible course of events pan out for him.
The main thing that panned out for him was not signing the contract extension he was offered, which obviously is entirely his own fault. And given his injury record, he should have grabbed our more than generous offer with both hands. He twisted, and bust, the greedy shit bastard.
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say it like it is! I like that Risso; Ron you venal greedy crook bastard. Nice.
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They all think the grass is greener away from villa park
Tough shit to em all
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Very pleased with this. Should have signed him 10 years ago, mind!
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My baggies supporting mate said that Lescott was a solid enoug player but tried to "play the ball out of defence" far too often instead of keeping it simple and getting the ball clear. Still said he can't understand why they have paid 8m for James Chester and 6m plus add ons for Evans when they could have kept Lescott.
I think he will add some much needed experience to the back line and hopefully link up well with Richards. Always helps the younger players to have someone of his experience playing alongside them too.
Welcome Joleon!
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Apparently Rondon is going to skin him when they play us according to my inbred Baggies supporting mate.
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Apparently Rondon is going to skin him when they play us according to my inbred Baggies supporting mate.
He might until amavi takes the ball off him.
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I'm genuinely looking forward to watching Amavi and Traore tearing Brunt and Dawson new arseholes on 19th September. I suspect we'll get at least one penalty and at least one of them will be sent off.
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Apparently Rondon is going to skin him when they play us according to my inbred Baggies supporting mate.
He's probably been watching too many Sky Atlantic programs such as True Detective, Hannibal and Game of Thrones. Flaying is all the rage these days.
That reminds me of a bizarre chant from the very old days:
Animals!
Cannibals!
Grab his balls!
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To be fair, he's actually watched the Game of Thrones series at least 3 times...best thing on television ever apparently!
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I note with interest that Christian has suffered a thigh injury on international duty.
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Can we get him and Micah to recreate this video
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You leave our club at your peril - sometimes the grass isn't always greener.
Benteke - 1 offside goal in 4 games.
Delph - 23 minutes game time and three weeks of injuries.
Cleverley - 8 weeks out injured.
Vlaar - injured and in oblivion.
Beneteke brilliant who can rip a defence apart half the time. The other half remains to be seen.
Delph looked good in a shit team. Will look average in an excellent team
Cleverley utter bag of shite. Over rated overpaid. We did another James Beattie to Everton on him.
Vlaar. Like Jamie Redknapp nice player when fit and on his game. The other 80% of the time unfotnpr ineffective.
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Looking forward to seeing Lescott and Richards paired at the heart of our defence, two very good CB's . It's been a while.
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You leave our club at your peril - sometimes the grass isn't always greener.
Benteke - 1 offside goal in 4 games.
Delph - 23 minutes game time and three weeks of injuries.
Cleverley - 8 weeks out injured.
Vlaar - injured and in oblivion.
Beneteke brilliant who can rip a defence apart half the time. The other half remains to be seen.
Delph looked good in a shit team. Will look average in an excellent team
Cleverley utter bag of shite. Over rated overpaid. We did another James Beattie to Everton on him.
Vlaar. Like Jamie Redknapp nice player when fit and on his game. The other 80% of the time unfotnpr ineffective.
Excellent summation Rob, made me smile!
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Welcome Joleon, prove your experience to be invaluable please.
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Looking forward to seeing Lescott and Richards paired at the heart of our defence, two very good CB's . It's been a while.
How long until he takes Clark's spot?
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Looking forward to seeing Lescott and Richards paired at the heart of our defence, two very good CB's . It's been a while.
How long until he takes Clark's spot?
Given Clark's shaky start I'd say it's immediate . Clark will be on bench at Leicester I reckon.
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How many Brummies do we have in the FT squad?
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How many Brummies do we have in the FT squad?
Taking into account that Micah Richards was only born in Birmingham as his mom was visiting at the time, and never lived here, of course.
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Changing gears I tried my best to watch the AVTV interview with Lescott. I gave up after a minute or so because of our fucking numpty interviewer, the ever loveable scrotum Jack W. My fucking goodness what utterly atrocious questions. I wanted to smash my fist through my laptop and throttle him into stopping. How on earth is he still employed by us?
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How many Brummies do we have in the FT squad?
I reckon 1. 2 if we're stretching it and including Richards. 4 if we include Richards and Solihull (Grealish and Gardner). I don't think i've missed anyone, assuming we aren't including any U21 players.
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Changing gears I tried my best to watch the AVTV interview with Lescott. I gave up after a minute or so because of our fucking numpty interviewer, the ever loveable scrotum Jack W. My fucking goodness what utterly atrocious questions. I wanted to smash my fist through my laptop and throttle him into stopping. How on earth is he still employed by us?
Let me guess. Patronising asides about the great training facilities, world class Villa Park and bringing the good times back?
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Changing gears I tried my best to watch the AVTV interview with Lescott. I gave up after a minute or so because of our fucking numpty interviewer, the ever loveable scrotum Jack W. My fucking goodness what utterly atrocious questions. I wanted to smash my fist through my laptop and throttle him into stopping. How on earth is he still employed by us?
Yeah every time I convince myself he "isn't that bad" or "he means well" he comes up with some new shite and puts himself back in the "twat who should not be here" bucket.
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Every new signing must be sat there opposite JW thinking "who's this clown" "what are they doing to me"
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How many Brummies do we have in the FT squad?
I reckon 1. 2 if we're stretching it and including Richards. 4 if we include Richards and Solihull (Grealish and Gardner). I don't think i've missed anyone, assuming we aren't including any U21 players.
Did you include Gabby?
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Looking forward to seeing Lescott and Richards paired at the heart of our defence, two very good CB's . It's been a while.
How long until he takes Clark's spot?
Given Clark's shaky start I'd say it's immediate . Clark will be on bench at Leicester I reckon.
Yep straight in. The arrival of Lescott does not bode well for Clark.
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Good signing. Our best centre-half.
I think so too. Straight into the first team with Richards.
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How many Brummies do we have in the FT squad?
I reckon 1. 2 if we're stretching it and including Richards. 4 if we include Richards and Solihull (Grealish and Gardner). I don't think i've missed anyone, assuming we aren't including any U21 players.
Did you include Gabby?
Gabby is the 1.
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I thought he was quite funny about scoring against Villa "Hopefully I won't score any more against Villa" and when pressed about the Everton goal and celebration <laughs> "Yeah lets not mention any of them again , its all in the past."
Also very respectful about West Brom and Pulis. Good for him. Looks like he will be an asset.
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How many Brummies do we have in the FT squad?
I reckon 1. 2 if we're stretching it and including Richards. 4 if we include Richards and Solihull (Grealish and Gardner). I don't think i've missed anyone, assuming we aren't including any U21 players.
Did you include Gabby?
Gabby is the 1.
So you're not including the guy who this thread is about? Isn't he from Harborne or Quinton, I'm pretty sure he went to Four Dwellings so he must be from nearby.
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How many Brummies do we have in the FT squad?
Taking into account that Micah Richards was only born in Birmingham as his mom was visiting at the time, and never lived here, of course.
Who visits a City when she's about to pop? All too convenient for me, she wanted her little Micah to be a Brummie!
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He's playing for us
he's playing for us
Joleon Lescott
he's playing for us.
Now doesn't that sound better.
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How many players do we have from the WMCA?
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I'm not sure but my dyslexic friend told me it's fun to stay there.
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Gotta say I'm a little bit underwhelmed by Lescott signing! Hope I am proved wrong however.
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Gotta say I'm a little bit underwhelmed by Lescott signing! Hope I am proved wrong however.
Underwhelmed or not I'd still feel more confident with our defence with Lescott rather than Clark or Baker.
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I'm very pleased with Lescott. I think he'll be much more reliable than Clark, and should form a nice partnership with both Richards in the centre, and Amavi to the left of him. Clark needs to up his game and realise he's now far too old to be making the mistakes you'd expect a youth player to be making.
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I think he has signed as cover for Clark rather than being Clark's replacement and he also gives Sherwood the option of going with 3 at the back with Amarvi and Bacuna as wing backs. For the money I don't think we can moan. Yes he's past his best, but at his best he was playing in a title winning side and trousering £100k a week. He's definitely an improvement to our squad.
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I'm very pleased with Lescott. I think he'll be much more reliable than Clark, and should form a nice partnership with both Richards in the centre, and Amavi to the left of him. Clark needs to up his game and realise he's now far too old to be making the mistakes you'd expect a youth player to be making.
Clark has genuine competition for his position. He has to get going again in his career which was coming along nicely prior to his injury. I like Clark but he'll need to stay on his toes and Lescott will help him to do that but also support him in his development.
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I think he has signed as cover for Clark rather than being Clark's replacement and he also gives Sherwood the option of going with 3 at the back with Amarvi and Bacuna as wing backs. For the money I don't think we can moan. Yes he's past his best, but at his best he was playing in a title winning side and trousering £100k a week. He's definitely an improvement to our squad.
The 3 at the back is definitely an option, but Lescott being signed as cover for Clark? Not a chance. If anything Clark will now be cover for Lescott and rightly so.
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It's a subject that's been broached before, during the dark days of yesteryear, in regards to training with and against better players. Coaches can only impart so much; our younger players now being able to practice what (I hope) they're learning in a more testing environment away from the magnifying goldfish bowl of the league has to be a good thing. Lescott's a winner, he's somewhere that he really wants to be, and he'll be desperate to do well. I think he's an excellent signing, and as long as we don't set up so's were relying on his pace, I see him making a big difference, on and off the field.
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How many Brummies do we have in the FT squad?
I reckon 1. 2 if we're stretching it and including Richards. 4 if we include Richards and Solihull (Grealish and Gardner). I don't think i've missed anyone, assuming we aren't including any U21 players.
Gardner's from Yardley. He may have been born in Solihull but that's only because we don't have a hospital here.
Gardner, Grealish, Lescott, Agbonlahor.
Four Brummies in the squad.
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Lescott has not come here to keep the bench warm
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Someone correctly mentioned early, Clark is getting too old for these basic defensive errors, he has racked up a lot of games now in his career, so strong competition can only help him.
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I like Clark but he'll need to stay on his toes and Lescott will help him to do that but also support him in his development.
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That is one thing that has always troubled me about Clark. He always seems to be on his heels so that his weight is backwards, never up on his toes anticipating and moving forward naturally. This seems to me to make him slower than he should be in his decision making/movement. If he had been more alert on Saturday and aware that the Sunderland player had so much space, he could have been moving towards him earlier which may have helped him make the challenge before the opponent had it fully under control.
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Bit of a schoolboy error forgetting to count Lescott!
When the football-mad five-year-old was involved in a freak accident as he walked home from a Birmingham school his family feared he might not live to kick a ball again.
But, fortunately Aston Villa's new signing Joleon Lescott refused to be beaten and he has now added a claret and blue chapter to his battle against adversity by signing for his boyhood club.
Lescott not only recovered from his horrific childhood accident, but kickstarted a career which is still going strong in the Premier League at the age of 33.
It's an amazing success story for the former pupil of World’s End Infant and Four Dwellings High School, in Quinton, who won his brave battle for survival almost three decades ago.
Lescott suffered severe brain injuries when he was struck in the head by a manhole cover that flew off the back of a truck as he walked home from school.
Since then the central defender has enjoyed a glittering career which reached a pinnacle with his Premier League winners medals at Manchester City in 2012 and 2014.
Lescott, who boasts 26 England caps and scored his for the Three Lions at Euro 2012, also won the FA Cup in 2011 and the League Cup in 2014 at City.
He started his career with Wolves, coming through the ranks at Molineux, before moving to Everton, Manchester City and then West Bromwich Albion, were he was fans' player of the year last season.
oining Villa finally brings him to the club he supported all those years ago and he mentioned Dalian Atkinson, Muller-sponsored shirts and his Bodymoor Heath graduate brother Aaron, in his first interview as a Villa player.
Ian Trevethick is a friend of the Lescott family and as a teacher at Four Dwellings taught Joleon's footballing big brother Aaron, mother Debbie and younger sister Hope.
Lescott still bears the scars of the traumatic accident and Mr Trevethick says his family regularly thank their lucky stars that the footballer has recovered to excel in the sport he loves.
“I’m told he was only five years old and it could have killed him,” said Mr Trevethick .
“He was very lucky to surivive.
“He was at junior school just down the road. There was a council wagon or something like that and a man hole cover flew off the back and hit him in the head.
“He suffered severe swelling of the brain, so he was very lucky to live.
“For a kid of that age to even live after something like that, let alone go on to achieve what he has achieved in football, is phenomenal.
“But he’s grown up to be a big, strong guy, so he is clearly very durable.
“I know his family are so, so proud of him, as are we all here at Four Dwellings, immensely proud.”
Lescott is a boyhood Villa fan and boss Tim Sherwood is delighted to welcome his to Villa Park on a two-year deal.
His first home matches are set to be against former club Albion in the Premier League and Birmingham City in the Capital One Cup.
Sherwood said: "I'm delighted to bring Joleon on board. He's a player who has great Premier League experience and he'll be a huge help to the younger members of our squad."
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I thought it was funny that he has been in contact with Moin Younis - the kid who gave him a hard time when the Smethwick players went to the Children's Hospital before the derby game in December last year.
http://mobile.avfc.co.uk/default.aspx?s=news-display&aid=4975071
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It's a subject that's been broached before, during the dark days of yesteryear, in regards to training with and against better players. Coaches can only impart so much; our younger players now being able to practice what (I hope) they're learning in a more testing environment away from the magnifying goldfish bowl of the league has to be a good thing. Lescott's a winner, he's somewhere that he really wants to be, and he'll be desperate to do well. I think he's an excellent signing, and as long as we don't set up so's were relying on his pace, I see him making a big difference, on and off the field.
There's probably some truth in that. Whilst an expensive coach, the players can probably learn more from the 'right' experienced pros than they ever could from coaches or Richard Dunne. I don't know a huge amount about Lescott's personality but having a few key characters about which dictate the work ethic could be very useful.
I recall interviews in the past - one specific one from Guzan - which seemed to question the player's commitment so a change of culture is probably over due.
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Fordies was a very handy school. The Milwall of the local secondaries.
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Did we overlook or reject Joleon as a kid ? I know he's a mad villa fan but recall the goals he scored for Everton vs us and the one he really celebrated wildly as if he was getting some stuff of his chest ?
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Fordies was a very handy school. The Milwall of the local secondaries.
Yeah, they were near to my school and they did have a bit of a reputation.
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May be a little bit too sentimental or OTT considering his goal celebrations against us, but considering he'll be lining up against the Stripy Filth and the Blue Scum for his first home games, then may be we can put the past behind us with a rendition of...
He's coming home,
He's coming home,
He's coming,
Lescotts coming home.
...or may be not! :D
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His first 3 games are 3 derbies (tenuous link to Leicester game)
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Post edited ;)
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Welcome home
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Did we overlook or reject Joleon as a kid ? I know he's a mad villa fan but recall the goals he scored for Everton vs us and the one he really celebrated wildly as if he was getting some stuff of his chest ?
According to Peter Withe the other day, who was involved on Villas coaching staff at the time, Lescotts brother was already here signed up, Lescott came along and trained, we wanted him but his parents wanted him to go to Wolves, Withe didn't know why they didn't want both at Villa.
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According to Joleon he was rejected, I saw it in some interview he did the other day.
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Joleon Lescott admits his move to Aston Villa is ‘about 17 years overdue’ after he joined from rivals Albion earlier today.
The 33-year-old, who grew up supporting the club, penned a two-year deal which could eventually be worth as much as £2million.
Lescott, who revealed he failed to impress the claret and blues during a trial as a kid, said: “It’s a special occasion for me and my family.
“It’s 17 years overdue!
“I remember coming on a trial and I was told that I wasn’t up to the grade.”
In an interview with AVTV, the centre-half also spoke of his first memories following the club.
Brother Aaron, who now acts as the former England international’s agent, used to play for the Villa as a youth which encouraged the ex-Manchester City star to take a keen interest.
“He was the main reason why I fell in love with Aston Villa at such a young age," Lescott added.
“He was at the club at schoolboy age and it’s quite strange to see some of the guys he played with like Mark Delaney and Ben Petty here as coaches now.
“I remember Dalian Atkinson and Andy Townsend, players like that were in the team then. Muller was on the front of the shirt, too.
“Back then I was actually a goalkeeper! My brother was a striker.
“To move to a club of this size is great but it’s an added bonus that I grew up supporting this club as a kid.”
Lescott also thanked Albion boss Tony Pulis for allowing the move to go through and added:
"I gave 100 per-cent when I was there and hopefully those who saw me play realised that."
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From Peter Withe on Twitter.
I have read a few articles about J Lescott saying he did not impress on trail at the Villa when I was DOY at Villa we had his brother Aaron
I tried in vane to get him to sign for the club his parents wanted him to go to Wolves not sure they wanted both at Villa.
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You'd think one of the reporters would ask the question of why he seemed to take more delight in scoring against us than anyone else then.
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There were some horrible songs sung about Lescott back then too.
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There were some horrible songs sung about Lescott back then too.
Yes, it would appear they were inaccurate as well. Presumably 'he got hit by a man-hole cover' was a bit difficult to find a tune for.
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Well if he was rejected it would explain the goal celebrations. Anyway, I don't really like this nonsense of not celebrating if you score a goal against a former team, you've scored you should be happy. Admittedly wildly gesticulating in front of the Holte is taking it a bit far.
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Well if he was rejected it would explain the goal celebrations. Anyway, I don't really like this nonsense of not celebrating if you score a goal against a former team, you've scored you should be happy. Admittedly wildly gesticulating in front of the Holte is taking it a bit far.
As is doing a mock "throw your shirt into the fans" thing in front of away fans at Goodison.
Still, fuck it, who cares about that any more.
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Well if he was rejected it would explain the goal celebrations. Anyway, I don't really like this nonsense of not celebrating if you score a goal against a former team, you've scored you should be happy. Admittedly wildly gesticulating in front of the Holte is taking it a bit far.
Yes he's done it more than once as well
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Well if he was rejected it would explain the goal celebrations. Anyway, I don't really like this nonsense of not celebrating if you score a goal against a former team, you've scored you should be happy. Admittedly wildly gesticulating in front of the Holte is taking it a bit far.
As is doing a mock "throw your shirt into the fans" thing in front of away fans at Goodison.
Still, fuck it, who cares about that any more.
PWS he's still not forgiven Collymore
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well let's hope he gets the opportunity to reprise such antics, but this time celebrating with Villa fans having just scored a goal...for us
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Certainly a player with a winning mentality which is what Sherwood identified quickly as a problem at the club.
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Well if he was rejected it would explain the goal celebrations. Anyway, I don't really like this nonsense of not celebrating if you score a goal against a former team, you've scored you should be happy. Admittedly wildly gesticulating in front of the Holte is taking it a bit far.
Yes he's done it more than once as well
Not bothered, he's one of us now.
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Certainly a player with a winning mentality which is what Sherwood identified quickly as a problem at the club.
Exactamundo - was only thinking this when he signed
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Well if he was rejected it would explain the goal celebrations. Anyway, I don't really like this nonsense of not celebrating if you score a goal against a former team, you've scored you should be happy. Admittedly wildly gesticulating in front of the Holte is taking it a bit far.
As is doing a mock "throw your shirt into the fans" thing in front of away fans at Goodison.
Still, fuck it, who cares about that any more.
Agreed it's time to move on now. I hope he does brilliantly for us.
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Certainly a player with a winning mentality which is what Sherwood identified quickly as a problem at the club.
Exactamundo - was only thinking this when he signed
Winning attitude or happened to be in the Man City squad? No suggesting otherwise just wondering how you have to make the call?
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Certainly a player with a winning mentality which is what Sherwood identified quickly as a problem at the club.
Exactamundo - was only thinking this when he signed
Winning attitude or happened to be in the Man City squad? No suggesting otherwise just wondering how you have to make the call?
Chicken and egg isn't is but you don't get to play a part in a league winning side by 'happening to be' there.
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Certainly a player with a winning mentality which is what Sherwood identified quickly as a problem at the club.
Exactamundo - was only thinking this when he signed
Winning attitude or happened to be in the Man City squad? No suggesting otherwise just wondering how you have to make the call?
Well he wasn't just a squad filler , he was a core member of the first team.
I'd also add anyone who gets hit by a flying manhole cover as a toddler who then goes on to be pro footballer at the highest level is a "winner"
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Certainly a player with a winning mentality which is what Sherwood identified quickly as a problem at the club.
Exactamundo - was only thinking this when he signed
Winning attitude or happened to be in the Man City squad? No suggesting otherwise just wondering how you have to make the call?
To nit-pick your nit-picking, he said "mentality", not "attitude". He's won stuff, has the medals to prove it, and always seemed unfazed by peers, opponents, surroundings or occasion. Allied to ability, qualities no doubt spotted by Everton and City. To me, that's a winner's mentality. Something we could've done with in May.
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Certainly a player with a winning mentality which is what Sherwood identified quickly as a problem at the club.
Exactamundo - was only thinking this when he signed
Winning attitude or happened to be in the Man City squad? No suggesting otherwise just wondering how you have to make the call?
Chicken and egg isn't is but you don't get to play a part in a league winning side by 'happening to be' there.
Well done to Paul Lambert then for signing those proven winners Joe Cole and Kieran Richardson then.
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Kieran Richardson was only really a fringe player in a title winning side. Joe Cole played a big part in Chelsea's success and would have been a good signing if he was still in his prime. Lescott is also in the twilight of his career but he plays in a position where his experience can be an asset and should be capable of playing the majority of games.
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Lescott isn't good enough for Ci£y anymore , but, for our level - mid table (hopefully) he's a big improvement on Clark and when paired with Richards will make us more solid and organised .
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He got horrible abuse in the games where he celebrated wildly against us. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.
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He got horrible abuse in the games where he celebrated wildly against us. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.
Move on now, he's back with the club he loved as a kid. Life's too short etc. Can't wait to see him in the claret n blue playing for us !
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Looking forward to him, Gestede and Richards attacking the ball at corners. It is a genuine threat. Also looking forward to his first goal celebration in our colours. Smart signing in my opinion. As for the winners argument, Cole and Richardson have been retained in the squad and were clearly available but not pushed aside. I think their experience and help is already recognised from comments Sherwood has made previously. It gives us a few players who do know what it takes though to win regularly which is a good thing.
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I cant understand the logic of people thinking he will not be an asset to us. As for the abuse, he said in his interview the other day he has had stick,he had a job to do. I am sure many will see him visiting the hospital before the games last season and the banter with the young Asian lad, it was superb and he has remained friends with the lad and will be bringing him.
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Even if it's only for a year or two, I reckon lescott and Richards will being some respect back to our central defence, probably the best pairing since Larsen and Mellberg
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I can't think of anything better than for Lescott to grab a couple of goals against the Baggies and Blue Scum. As a Villa fan himself, I wonder if he'd actually celebrate scoring against Baggies having only just left them.
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I doubt he would against the Baggies but if he manages to score against the blues I fully expect him to do a double-handed Stephen Carr at their fans.
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He ought to celebrate if he scores against the Albion, he's a Villa player now. I would also expect Benteke to celebrate when he inevitably gets goals for Liverpool against us.
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He ought to celebrate if he scores against the Albion, he's a Villa player now. I would also expect Benteke to celebrate when he inevitably gets goals for Liverpool against us.
Bloody right, can't stand this 'respect my old club' bollocks.
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He ought to celebrate if he scores against the Albion, he's a Villa player now. I would also expect Benteke to celebrate when he inevitably gets goals for Liverpool against us.
Bloody right, can't stand this 'respect my old club' bollocks.
The absolute best was Wes Hoolahan scoring against us but not celebrating because he wanted to join us and Norwich wouldn't let him. Not celebrating out of respect for a club who wanted to buy you.
The whole thing is bollocks. So long as there's no Adebayor style taking it way over the top, there's no reason for it.
It is a bit cringey. Not quite up there with Ian Wright referring to Hoddle as "gaffer" when they do tv punditry together because he used to play for him - which is the most cringemaking thing in the game at the moment - but pretty shit all the same
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I'd fully expect lescott to celebrate against wba and blues if he scores. I get it that, say if you played for someone like Everton for 10 years and moved to somewhere like Watford or Bournemouth and scored and didn't celebrate out of respect. But how long's he been at baggies? And he's a villa fan. Break out the streamers and party poppers.
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Is it more cringeworthy than Bafetimbi Gomis pretending to be a lion when he scores? My arsehole puckers up with shame just to think about that
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He ought to celebrate if he scores against the Albion, he's a Villa player now. I would also expect Benteke to celebrate when he inevitably gets goals for Liverpool against us.
Bloody right, can't stand this 'respect my old club' bollocks.
The absolute best was Wes Hoolahan scoring against us but not celebrating because he wanted to join us and Norwich wouldn't let him. Not celebrating out of respect for a club who wanted to buy you.
The whole thing is bollocks. So long as there's no Adebayor style taking it way over the top, there's no reason for it.
It is a bit cringey. Not quite up there with Ian Wright referring to Hoddle as "gaffer" when they do tv punditry together because he used to play for him - which is the most cringemaking thing in the game at the moment - but pretty shit all the same
that does sound bad- haven't seen it, but is he not doing it (wright) as a pisstake?
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The absolute best was Wes Hoolahan scoring against us but not celebrating because he wanted to join us and Norwich wouldn't let him. Not celebrating out of respect for a club who wanted to buy you.
Didn't we just assume that that's why he wasn't celebrating? I don't think he made any comment on his reasons.
In hindsight I'd guess that it was less likely out of 'respect for us' and more out of disinterest at celebrating a goal for a club he wasn't happy at and had described as a 'shithole' a few days previously...
Or to put it another way, his lack of celebration had little to do with his potential future relationship with Villa and much more to do with the state of his then relationship with Norwich.
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The debate about celebrating goals against your former team is arguably worse than players doing/not doing it itself. Let them do whatever the fuck they want - it's a goal celebration, there's basically no hidden meaning to it to anyone except armchair psychologists.
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Is it more cringeworthy than Bafetimbi Gomis pretending to be a lion when he scores? My arsehole puckers up with shame just to think about that
He is known as "The Panther" apparently
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I hope Lescott buries a header into the bottom corner and then steams over their lot, rips his shirt off and pretends to throw into the crowd.
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Is it more cringeworthy than Bafetimbi Gomis pretending to be a lion when he scores? My arsehole puckers up with shame just to think about that
That's a good point. That is truly horrific.
In fact, at the time I first saw it, I wondered whether for the first time in years we had a celebration to contend with this one.
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/04f45ba3b4e6bb140340038bf7ca72e5/tumblr_mqaez2AgHK1sbxo7qo1_500.gif)
Or that horrible Chelsea "posing for a team photo" one. That's so bad, I can't face googling it in case i find it.
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I hope Lescott buries a header into the bottom corner and then steams over their lot, rips his shirt off and pretends to throw into the crowd.
I hope he runs towards their lot, pisses on a baby throstle, then stamps it to death.
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Is it more cringeworthy than Bafetimbi Gomis pretending to be a lion when he scores? My arsehole puckers up with shame just to think about that
He is known as "The Panther" apparently
It's toe curlingly bad, whatever they call him
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Is it more cringeworthy than Bafetimbi Gomis pretending to be a lion when he scores? My arsehole puckers up with shame just to think about that
He is known as "The Panther" apparently
It's toe curlingly bad, whatever they call him
It is like something out of the WWE.
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Is it more cringeworthy than Bafetimbi Gomis pretending to be a lion when he scores? My arsehole puckers up with shame just to think about that
That's a good point. That is truly horrific.
In fact, at the time I first saw it, I wondered whether for the first time in years we had a celebration to contend with this one.
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/04f45ba3b4e6bb140340038bf7ca72e5/tumblr_mqaez2AgHK1sbxo7qo1_500.gif)
Or that horrible Chelsea "posing for a team photo" one. That's so bad, I can't face googling it in case i find it.
A sobering thought - the 1994 World Cup seems like yesterday ( I went and saw half of the Villa team get knocked out by Holland) and Bebeto was celebrating the birth of his son in that famous clip. That means his son is now 21.....
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Little did they know that in 21 yrs time, they'd fully need all three players to recreate that goal celebration with his actual son. Unless of course he's a fat ****** and then they might need more.
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Is it more cringeworthy than Bafetimbi Gomis pretending to be a lion when he scores? My arsehole puckers up with shame just to think about that
That's a good point. That is truly horrific.
In fact, at the time I first saw it, I wondered whether for the first time in years we had a celebration to contend with this one.
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/04f45ba3b4e6bb140340038bf7ca72e5/tumblr_mqaez2AgHK1sbxo7qo1_500.gif)
Or that horrible Chelsea "posing for a team photo" one. That's so bad, I can't face googling it in case i find it.
A sobering thought - the 1994 World Cup seems like yesterday ( I went and saw half of the Villa team get knocked out by Holland) and Bebeto was celebrating the birth of his son in that famous clip. That means his son is now 21.....
.... and plays for Flamengo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mattheus_Oliveira
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I'd like to see this more often...
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Certainly a player with a winning mentality which is what Sherwood identified quickly as a problem at the club.
Exactamundo - was only thinking this when he signed
Winning attitude or happened to be in the Man City squad? No suggesting otherwise just wondering how you have to make the call?
Lescott was largely a disappointment at City, big money move from Everton but had luminaries like Demechelis taking his place regularly.
Not a fan of the winners and losers tags, we had players in dire Villa sides (Delph, Benteke) that could easily hold their own against these supposedly superior medal winners.
Djimi Traore having a CL medal comes to mind, also remember how bad Ferdinand and Park were at QPR?
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Certainly a player with a winning mentality which is what Sherwood identified quickly as a problem at the club.
Exactamundo - was only thinking this when he signed
Winning attitude or happened to be in the Man City squad? No suggesting otherwise just wondering how you have to make the call?
Lescott was largely a disappointment at City, big money move from Everton but had luminaries like Demechelis taking his place regularly.
Playing the majority of matches in both years that they won the league and playing 90 minutes when they won the FA Cup. It's hardly not contributing to their success.
And when you start adding up the money that Man City have spent, Lescott definitely goes down as one of their better signings.
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He only made 10 league appearances, 8 starts, in 2013/14. I agree with the rest though, he was a decent signing for them and certainly made a healthy contribution to their first title win and the FA Cup.
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I wonder if Sherwood will use the "he's played two tough games in a week" reason to rest Clark and start Lescott with Richards on Saturday.
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He only made 10 league appearances, 8 starts, in 2013/14. I agree with the rest though, he was a decent signing for them and certainly made a healthy contribution to their first title win and the FA Cup.
You're quite right - I was looking at the previous year.
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He was never worth £23m or whatever they paid. But he's definitely proven pedigree at this level.
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He was never worth £23m or whatever they paid. But he's definitely proven pedigree at this level.
How often are players really worth what gets paid for them? Occasionally but probably in the minority.
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from Four Four Two
Sherwood impressed by Lescott impact
Tim Sherwood has paid tribute to Joleon Lescott's impact at Aston Villa ahead of his potential debut this weekend.
Aston Villa boss Tim Sherwood believes Joleon Lescott's quality and experience will serve the club well this season as he prepares to make his debut against Leicester City on Sunday.
Lescott made the move across the Midlands on deadline day from West Brom and is in line to make his Villa debut at the King Power Stadium this weekend.
Villa were among the most active sides in the transfer window, bringing in a host of young players from overseas, and Sherwood has high hopes for Lescott's impact.
Discussing the former Manchester City man's time with the club, Sherwood added: "He's walked in here like he's played here all his life.
"He's going to be a great signing for the club, he has that immense experience and game know-how.
"We're not getting Joleon Lescott in his prime, we know that, but we're getting a player who was player of the year at West Brom last year.
"He missed the first four games [with West Brom last season] but played the other 34. He's certainly an influence on the pitch and in the dressing room.
"The dressing room needed someone with experience. We've signed a lot of young, footballers from different countries so Joleon will help knit that group together.
"He's fit to start and has an opportunity to start."
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Am going to come out with something positive. I think before the ridiculous capitulation and pathetic subs from Sherwood, he looked one half of a very good defensive partnership. I know that looks stupid having just let in 3 but as with most goals we've conceded this last few years, they normally come from getting overrun in midfield, and/or having shit fullbacks.
Thought Micah was excellent too most of the game.
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He played very well apart from when he and Bacuna conspired to fuck about with it and I really think that got them back into it. We were well on top and that second had taken the wind out of their sails
I think we've got good CB options now tho
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Always been a Lescott fan and I think its a big plus that he will make things happen in the other penalty area. The only issue I have is his fitness and the fact that Richards and Clark seemed to have a good partnship forming and I think to suddernly change that is a bit of a risk. Thought he made a decent debut yesterday.
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He played very well apart from when he and Bacuna conspired to fuck about with it and I really think that got them back into it. We were well on top and that second had taken the wind out of their sails
I think we've got good CB options now tho
I agree about the fuck up between him and Bacuna. Bloody hell we do love to help teams out, it was the most ridiculous bit of sloppy play you'll ever see. We seem to do that a lot at the moment, firing passes at people's shins then losing the ball and letting the team back into it. A bit of composure and game management would do wonders.
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I thought he played really well for the first 60 minutes, but fell aware with everyone else.
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Yup, he got turned and left for dead a couple of times, pretty much as BaggieLiam predicted he would. Great defending deep but defend higher up the pitch he can be a liability.
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I'll probably get slated for saying it but I thought he was pretty poor
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Like the team as a whole, pleased with his first 60 minutes...but the advantage of having an experienced head in there means that he doesn't make fu*k ups like he and Bacuna did for their first.
The whole world knows he's not quick, so we should set up with that in mind if we are going to play him regularly. (Richards and Okore are both quick)
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What was Lescott's fuck up that led to their first goal?
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He dribbled the ball along the back line, drawing pressure, having had three opportunities to clear, we conspire to give it away. They score from the resulting corner, where De Laet runs off his man too.
Piss poor.
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Thanks. I did look back at the corner but still couldn't work out what it was.
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De Lart runs off and loses Bacuna from the corner for goal 1
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Before the collapse, I found myself thinking that with Lescott and Richards at the back, it was as if we'd moved on to playing a pair of "adults" in those positions, rather than an "adult" babysitting a "kid", or a couple of kids, which we've seen in recent seasons.
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Before the collapse, I found myself thinking that with Lescott and Richards at the back, it was as if we'd moved on to playing a pair of "adults" in those positions, rather than an "adult" babysitting a "kid", or a couple of kids, which we've seen in recent seasons.
I agree completely with this. Thought we looked really solid.
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Lescott and Richards looked very much in control and it appeared that Lescott took up a natural leadership role communicating to defenders, midfielders and leading the line. There was no cause for concern until we completely lost it in midfield.
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Lescott is good but he will make just as many mistakes as Clark
Clark is a good CB and can improve, Lescott had experience but will not get any better
I think both are good options, but anyone thinking either will be error free will be disappointed
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Lescott is good but he will make just as many mistakes as Clark
Clark is a good CB and can improve, Lescott had experience but will not get any better
I think both are good options, but anyone thinking either will be error free will be disappointed
Worth quoting as the last post on this thread. His passing was very bad today.
He's only two games into his Villa career, but from games against Leicester and West Brom I've not seen anything that Clark wouldn't have done either as well or better. He's not been disastrous, but I don't think Clark would have been either.
Some of the passes he sent sailing out of play reminded me of James Collins' glory days, and Rondon beat him to pretty much everything that they send forward.
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Lescott is good but he will make just as many mistakes as Clark
Clark is a good CB and can improve, Lescott had experience but will not get any better
I think both are good options, but anyone thinking either will be error free will be disappointed
Worth quoting as the last post on this thread. His passing was very bad today.
He's only two games into his Villa career, but from games against Leicester and West Brom I've not seen anything that Clark wouldn't have done either as well or better. He's not been disastrous, but I don't think Clark would have been either.
Some of the passes he sent sailing out of play reminded me of James Collins' glory days, and Rondon beat him to pretty much everything that they send forward.
His legs are gone, completely gone at that
As much as WBA may have overpaid for Jonny Evans, they are a much better defence without Lescott in it
Clark had a poor game v Sunderland but Id have him ahead of Lescott all day
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Will TS play Lescott or Clark on Tuesday?
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Never thought I'd say it but i hope he plays Clark. I've seen milk turn quicker than Lescott, him and Richards got bullied today by an average striker. Those two and Amavi, who can't defend or tackle, are a disaster waiting to happen.
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Amavi is the one. His first few games at the Villa has a worryingly striking parallel to that of Antonio Luna's.
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Lescott is good but he will make just as many mistakes as Clark
Clark is a good CB and can improve, Lescott had experience but will not get any better
I think both are good options, but anyone thinking either will be error free will be disappointed
Worth quoting as the last post on this thread. His passing was very bad today.
He's only two games into his Villa career, but from games against Leicester and West Brom I've not seen anything that Clark wouldn't have done either as well or better. He's not been disastrous, but I don't think Clark would have been either.
Some of the passes he sent sailing out of play reminded me of James Collins' glory days, and Rondon beat him to pretty much everything that they send forward.
His legs are gone, completely gone at that
As much as WBA may have overpaid for Jonny Evans, they are a much better defence without Lescott in it
Clark had a poor game v Sunderland but Id have him ahead of Lescott all day
His legs have not gone and he has improved Villa
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Lescott is good but he will make just as many mistakes as Clark
Clark is a good CB and can improve, Lescott had experience but will not get any better
I think both are good options, but anyone thinking either will be error free will be disappointed
Worth quoting as the last post on this thread. His passing was very bad today.
He's only two games into his Villa career, but from games against Leicester and West Brom I've not seen anything that Clark wouldn't have done either as well or better. He's not been disastrous, but I don't think Clark would have been either.
Some of the passes he sent sailing out of play reminded me of James Collins' glory days, and Rondon beat him to pretty much everything that they send forward.
I completely agree Dave. He reminded me of Southgate - whose passing was abysmal for a former midfielder - but I had forgotten the Collins sand wedge.
I thought the writing was on the wall defensively when he was beaten to a cross from the left after 1m where Rondon flashed in a header despite starting behind Lescott.
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While the rest of the defence pushed out as a unit lescott ran back n the line and this meant berahino goal stood
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He's said on Twitter that there is no time to mope with the biggest game of the season coming up.
I thought we had a championship side in the league cup?
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I'll probably get slated for saying it but I thought he was pretty poor
Two games running.
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He's said on Twitter that there is no time to mope with the biggest game of the season coming up.
I thought we had a championship side in the league cup?
For the players and Sherwood it is the biggest game. Lose this and the fans will turn.
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When's okore back ?
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To be honest I don't think Lescott and the rest of the defence are the main problem. Midfield and especially up front are where we're weak.
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I didn't think we defended too badly on Saturday. Rondon got the run on him for the header early on, but there wasn't a great deal of pressure exerted on either centre half.
I'm certainly not reach for the tired cliche's just yet about legs and their disappearance.
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Amavi is the one. His first few games at the Villa has a worryingly striking parallel to that of Antonio Luna's.
Rubbish!!
Luna scored ;)
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When's okore back ?
According to physioroom.com, 24th October
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When's okore back ?
According to physioroom.com, 24th October
What year?
/baddumtish
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When's okore back ?
According to physioroom.com, 24th October
I'm sure it said on the OS last week that he is back in full training, will take a few weeks to get his fitness up though I assume
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I'll probably get slated for saying it but I thought he was pretty poor
Two games running.
Three games running
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I'll probably get slated for saying it but I thought he was pretty poor
Two games running.
Three games running
I bloody told you all he was finished before we signed him!!!!
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Pretty poor today.
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Gave the ball away much too often again.
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I'll probably get slated for saying it but I thought he was pretty poor
Two games running.
Three games running
I bloody told you all he was finished before we signed him!!!!
I see Lescott replaces Ayew for being no good. Give him a chance for God's sake! Not a single clue about the game.
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Really struggling to fit into our defensive system.
Liam the Baggie did say he'd struggle in a back 4 that plays a high line as obviously Pulis parks his on the 6 yard box.
Early days I suppose.
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He was very poor tonight. Hopefully he just needs settling in.
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I said I wasn't interested seen nothing to change my mind yet
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Think it's just a villa fan living his boyhood dream and being nervous. Class will prevail.
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He's never been good on the ball so that won't improve, his distribution was poor at City when they were signing him for 20 odd million.
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Really struggling to fit into our defensive system.
Liam the Baggie did say he'd struggle in a back 4 that plays a high line as obviously Pulis parks his on the 6 yard box.
Early days I suppose.
Since when did we have a defensive system.
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He was gash tonight.
Clark was gash in centre mid, then great at centre half.
Micah Richards is the best CB we have had since Martin Laursen. Absolutely immense tonight
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I really think Richards has been fantastic to date
I was sceptical on him at centre back but he's been great
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In addition to being extremely competent, Micah has been inspirational to the team and supporters.
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I really think Richards has been fantastic to date
I was sceptical on him at centre back but he's been great
My thoughts exactly.
He was outstanding tonight.
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Richards is and should be an inspiration to the rest of the players...he's immense and a great choice as captain.
Re: Lescott...part way through the first half he cleared a ball into the Trinity with one of their players closing him down. I'm still trying to work out if he was jogging or sprinting...he was proper slow so if he was sprinting then it's not a good sign (I'll update once I've watched the game back).
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Turns out it was a slightly faster than normal jog rather than a sprint.
Having watched the game back, Lescott didn't cover himself in glory tonight...far too many mistakes, giving away possession cheaply, passing back to Guzan far too much, rushing forward and getting caught out of position, and failing to make a decent challenge. TS said that he intended to bring Lescott off at half time, and Clark was a rock in comparison in the second half.
Clark deserves his starting place against Liverpool and I'd have Lescott as back up...he may be half way to the knackers yard but we're going to need him with the way Clark is clocking up all these yellow cards (4 already this season).
Worryingly TS did mention that he thinks Clark can play in midfield based on the fact that he used to play there, but he showed tonight that he's not good enough on the ball and his best position is CB. I'd like to think that TS only really played him in midfield in the first half just to give him some game time as we have much better options available.
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Can't believe how poor he was. It's as if he was overawed by the occasion. Strange for a guy who has played at top level.
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Lescott started the game with a heavily wrapped right leg. He ran towards the end of the first half like he was in treacle so I think he was not fully fit and the bench looked to take him off at that point. I think TS is playing games suggesting it was a tactic
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I'll probably get slated for saying it but I thought he was pretty poor
Two games running.
Three games running
I bloody told you all he was finished before we signed him!!!!
I see Lescott replaces Ayew for being no good. Give him a chance for God's sake! Not a single clue about the game.
When have I said Ayew was no good?
The simple fact is, Lescot has been poor in his three games
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Clearly injured...he was playing on one leg. We need Okore back to give us more chance to rest Lescott because he won't play every game.
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Clearly injured...he was playing on one leg. We need Okore back to give us more chance to rest Lescott because he won't play every game.
Surely Clark is a more natural replacement with Okore for Richard?
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How bad is he? I thought he was awful at Leeicester, but he was worse last night. Clark at CB on Saturday please.
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Can see no reason for Lescott to start ahead of Clark on Saturday. Clark was very good towards the end of last season and I hope Lescott will be back up from now on.
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I'm another that felt Lescott was poor last night.
There were multiple occasions where he would make clearing headers under minimal pressure that went straight back to the opposition. This would be forgivible if not for the fact there were often other unhindered Villa players nearby that could have received a cushioned header and thus retained possession. This isn't a matter of ability or fitness. More about a lack of applying his experience.
If he's not going to apply his experience then I have to wonder why we signed him at all.
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In addition to being extremely competent, Micah has been inspirational to the team and supporters.
a good captain
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First proper captain since Laursen.
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Love a bit raw emotional fist pumping from our new captain in front of the Holte after a good win...albeit that sounds completely wrong, but welcome to Villa Micah...may you earn legendary status amongst us.
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Richards has been superb since he came.
He's not a hugely naturally gifted player on the ball but he has an amazing will to win challenges.
At times on Tuesday he'd go into challenges and virtually barge through the opposition player to get, and come away with, the ball.
He is also clearly a born on-pitch leader, too
I've been massively impressed with him.
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Richards has been superb since he came.
He's not a hugely naturally gifted player on the ball but he has an amazing will to win challenges.
At times on Tuesday he'd go into challenges and virtually barge through the opposition player to get, and come away with, the ball.
He is also clearly a born on-pitch leader, too
I've been massively impressed with him.
I like the fact that he was having a "word" with the opposition players after they had fouled one of ours and also having words with the ref, something we haven't tended to do - we have always been too nice
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Love a bit raw emotional fist pumping from our new captain in front of the Holte after a good win...albeit that sounds completely wrong, but welcome to Villa Micah...may you earn legendary status amongst us.
Wasn't he doing the same when he scored against us for Citeh not a million years ago?
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Love a bit raw emotional fist pumping from our new captain in front of the Holte after a good win...albeit that sounds completely wrong, but welcome to Villa Micah...may you earn legendary status amongst us.
Wasn't he doing the same when he scored against us for Citeh not a million years ago?
Nothing wrong with that. Just shows that he's enthusiastic for whichever team he's playing for.
There's no reason that such emotion should be confined to playing for your home town team
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Well, I have to say that this bloke has been a complete disaster so far. Almost as bad as Guzan for handing games on a plate to the opposition.
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Was he one of Sherwood's picks? He doesn't fit the profile of what Reilly was allegedly picking so I presume so?
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Is Clark injured?
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The first goal yesterday was appalling from Guzan but fuck me Lescott showed all the touch of Peter Sutcliffe. He's been awful for us and I didn't expect that.
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Well, I have to say that this bloke has been a complete disaster so far. Almost as bad as Guzan for handing games on a plate to the opposition.
This season I've backed Guzan, wanted Sherwood to have more time and welcomed the signing of Lescott.
I'm worried about my judgement!
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There are no two ways about it Lescott has been a vast dissapointment in every game he has played. I would like to see a central pairing of Clark and Senderos given a chance with Richards at right back.
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Did we give Lescott a 2 or 3 year deal?
I'm struggling to think of a worse centre half I've seen at the club.
Woeful and unnecessary signing.
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Richards and Lescott together look worse than Okore and Clark. Get Okore and Clark back together, push Micah right back, him and Amavi getting forward add a threat.
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Richards and Lescott together look worse than Okore and Clark. Get Okore and Clark back together, push Micah right back, him and Amavi getting forward add a threat.
A million times this. I'm hoping Ilori can get a run too.
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Lescott on his own has been responsible for at least 2 defeats and has had a hand in at least 3 more.
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Is Clark injured?
Yes with Gabby
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It's pretty much agreed that we now have a squad of a decent size but how often do we see players dropped for poor performances? Westwood, shit week in week out, we might as well plant a scarecrow with it's arm pointing towards it's own area and only move it for the second half for all the good he does. Lescott, clangers left, right and centre. Guzan, cannot use his feet, as soon as the ball is passed back he's an accident waiting to happen. Hutton, ok he was solidish yesterday, he's asked to get forward and he had two great chances to get the ball in to the danger area yesterday and completely fluffed them. Gestede, no crosses so offered nothing. These are poor performances and have been going on for weeks, where is the competition for places? We only seem to make changes for fucking wacky, tactical, tim nice but dim reasons. If the players are not performing, send them a message, get them out the team and get some other useless bastard in until he messes up.
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How times have changed, we normally got rid of our hasbeens to Albion, now the shoe is on the other foot
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Been utter shite , Sendaros is resigned to the stiff's for this sack of shit ...
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How times have changed, we normally got rid of our hasbeens to Albion, now the shoe is on the other foot
He was their player of the season. Most of them were pissed off he was sold to us at the time.
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Whatever he was last year this year he looks finished. Touch and concentration of a 2 yr old.
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We were warned that at this stage of his career, unless everything was organised properly so that things happened in front of him rather than all around, he would struggle; but if you were successful in doing that, he'd be very handy. He's been guilty of some unforced errors as well, but given our complete lack of structure it's not very surprising that the former has occurred.
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Seems like a signing we didn't need. Has looked very poor so far, can't believe Senderos is any worse?
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Whatever he was last year this year he looks finished. Touch and concentration of a 2 yr old.
To be fair, it happens to far better players than him. Just look at Ivanovic for Chelsea. Mainstay and vital component of their back 4 for years. This year dropped after 5 games of being utterly shit and a liability. If only we'd got a proper manager instead of someone who thinks that he's playing FIFA 15.
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Been utter shite , Sendaros is resigned to the stiff's for this sack of shit ...
Serious question but does Senderos still show up or does he dial it in like Bogarde did at Chelsea?
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He probably facetimes from his lakeside villa in Zurich.
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Thought Swiss Phil had gone out on loan
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Hopefully Ilori and Okore are back soon.
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Thought Swiss Phil had gone out on loan
Not as far as I know. He wasn't give a squad number so can't play for us until mid Jan when you can make changes to your 25 player squad.
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Thought Swiss Phil had gone out on loan
Not as far as I know. He wasn't give a squad number so can't play for us until mid Jan when you can make changes to your 25 player squad.
Was he given number 14 after the 25 man squad submission?
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Lescott has been poor so far, but that pass to him yesterday was a disgrace.
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Nope, the club still list him as 14 but he isn't part of our 25 player squad.
1] Brad Guzan
2] Tiago Ilori
4] Micah Richards
5] Jores Okore
6] Ciaran Clark
7] Leandro Bacuna
8] Idrissa Gueye
9] Scott Sinclair
11] Gabby Agbonlahor
12] Joe Cole
13] Jed Steer
15] Ashley Westwood
16] Joleon Lescott
17] Jordan Veretout
18] Kieran Richardson
19] Jordan Ayew
21] Alan Hutton
22] Gary Gardner
24] Carlos Sanchez
25] Carles Gil
27] Libor Kozak
28] Charles N'Zogbia
31] Mark Bunn
33] Jose Angel Crespo
39] Rudy Gestede
U21 players
20] Adama Traore
23] Jordan Amavi
40] Jack Grealish
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How times have changed, we normally got rid of our hasbeens to Albion, now the shoe is on the other foot
He was their player of the season. Most of them were pissed off he was sold to us at the time.
I was told by a Baggies season ticket holder (who knows his footie to be fair) before Lescott had even kicked a ball for us that he's completely lost his pace which is why Pulis let him go.
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How times have changed, we normally got rid of our hasbeens to Albion, now the shoe is on the other foot
He was their player of the season. Most of them were pissed off he was sold to us at the time.
I was told by a Baggies season ticket holder (who knows his footie to be fair) before Lescott had even kicked a ball for us that he's completely lost his pace which is why Pulis let him go.
Well Pullis should be managing England as the Baggie fans voted him their best player last season.
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We voted Stephen Ireland player of the season in the past, didn't mean he was that good.
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Yes, but for a defender to win it you'd imagine that was based on consistent performances over nine months at the heart of a decent defence.
A flair player like Ireland is/was/should have been, can light up a game or two and in a shit season make it stand-out amongst long-suffering supporters.
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Potential to be shown up again on Saturday against the swans quick passing game
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He's worse than I ever imagined he could be.
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I bumped into one of my childhood friends who I'd not seen since the start of the century at the Brum half marathon and he put it quite eloquenty: Pullis would not have let him go unless Lescott was going to fall off a cliff football wise sometime soon.
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To cheer myself up earlier I watched Young's last ditch winner against Everton again. Who got rinsed at the end? Lescott. 8 years younger Lescott.
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lescott for me was just a shit desperate lazy signing
he is going to play for one season tops and in that time clark isnt playing so it doesnt do him any good
same with joe cole we may as well just have set fire to two million quid.
laughable
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Thought Swiss Phil had gone out on loan
Not as far as I know. He wasn't give a squad number so can't play for us until mid Jan when you can make changes to your 25 player squad.
Was he given number 14 after the 25 man squad submission?
Now we've loaned out Steer and Cole doesn't that reduce our 25 man squad? Can we add the likes of Swiss Phil?
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Unfortunatey, Lescott is playing for his boyhood club, 10 yrs too late.
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lescott for me was just a shit desperate lazy signing
he is going to play for one season tops and in that time clark isnt playing so it doesnt do him any good
same with joe cole we may as well just have set fire to two million quid.
laughable
just keep on repeating the same mistakes...
the lescott signing just had a bad vibe about. Always gave it the massive one against us and an albion reject
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I bumped into one of my childhood friends who I'd not seen since the start of the century at the Brum half marathon and he put it quite eloquenty: Pullis would not have let him go unless Lescott was going to fall off a cliff football wise sometime soon.
And yet Tiny Penis wanted him to stay and offered him a contract extension.
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Way too old, way over paid, way to go Tim
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Way too old, way over paid, way to go Tim
There's a definite stink about this signing. Much the same as Rio Ferdinand at QPR. The legs have gone and the motivation doesn't seem to be the same as it was either. Well, well past his prime. And to be honest, Lescott was never that brilliant in the first place. The fact he scored goals really papered over a lot of cracks in his game.
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Defensively awful since he joined, & mysteriously undroppable. As Tim hs to sadly go, the new manager will hopefully never play Lescott again.
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what a waste of money
nail the receipt to his back stick him in the post, and get our money back.
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he was a fucking disgrace today
i wouldnt even have him on the bench
but according to that c*** sherwood he is better than clark and okore
that tells you everything you need to know about our wanker of a manager
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It really was pretty awful from him today. He looks finished.
Where the fuck is Okore? How can he still be unfit?
And what is wrong with Clark?
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I think whoever it was on here or elsewhere who said he was our Rio Ferdinand signing is spot on. Can't think of a better analogy than that expect QPR quickly realised Rio was finished and took him out of the team around this time last season.
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Drops a bollock every time he plays, today it was three or four.
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It really was pretty awful from him today. He looks finished.
Where the fuck is Okore? How can he still be unfit?
And what is wrong with Clark?
He is so obviously the weakest of the weak links in the defence. Basic stuff is beyond him.
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I'm guessing, and hoping, that it was decided today was too soon for either Okore or Clark as they are only recently back in training. If Sherwood genuinely believes Lescott is better than either of them then he truly doesn't have even the most basic clue.
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I'm guessing, and hoping, that it was decided today was too soon for either Okore or Clark as they are only recently back in training. If Sherwood genuinely believes Lescott is better than either of them then he truly doesn't have even the most basic clue.
But he's chucked Gabby straight back in after weeks out.
Clark and Okore must be in a poor state of fitness - I'd rather have an has asthmatic pit-pony than Lescott.
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It's sensible not to throw Okore straight back in...he's been out for a few months and has already had a long term injury here. You'll probably see him at Southampton.
Clark I thought just had a knock but seems to have disappered for weeks so no idea.
And where the fcuk is Tiago Ilori, what a waste of a loan fee that looks like now.
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We need more experience well Lescott is the experience Sherwood wanted and he has been utter shite...so maybe not allowing to spank millions on Spurs bench warmers was for the best...
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I bumped into one of my childhood friends who I'd not seen since the start of the century at the Brum half marathon and he put it quite eloquenty: Pullis would not have let him go unless Lescott was going to fall off a cliff football wise sometime soon.
And yet Tiny Penis wanted him to stay and offered him a contract extension.
We actually went back on taking up the option in our favour. His stats post Feb this year were a big concern and it was pretty clear to the medical staff that he was beginning to struggle.
JL was unhappy at us backtracking on contract talks and there was talk of taking things to the PFA at the time.
As someone else said earlier, TP would not have released him if he thought he could still do it at this level.
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legs: gone.
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Legs definitely gone. There were 3 or 4 occasions in the 2nd half yday when he was beaten by a simple ball through the channel from Shelvey to Gomis. He was so slow he made Gestede look like Usain Bolt. He has been utter shite since his first game. Clark needs to come back in asap.
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Problem is I think he was brought in as some experience and to play now and again or come on as a sub if needed. Thanks to our usual injury problems he's had to start every game since he arrived. Hopefully with Clark and Okore close to a return he'll be on the bench soon.
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yep Lescott would be fine as a back up to Clark. Not a replacement for him. And I'd also like the new bloke to give Richards a run at RB once Okore is fit. He's well used to playing there, and a back four of Richards, Okore, Clark and Amavi just feels more secure
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Just hope I never hear that " he's one of our own song " as long as I live utter garbage if pulls didn't want him what does that say to you.
How the hell he gets in the team before Clark and okore is beyond me.
We get no song about ken mcnaught or Allan Evans or mellberg but he gets one.
Or how about
" his heads in the clouds the whole 90 minutes his heads in the clouds"
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How the hell he gets in the team before Clark and okore is beyond me.
I think Okore is still crocked, isn't he?
Hopefully the new manager will have his eyes open and shitcan Lescott.
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How the hell he gets in the team before Clark and okore is beyond me.
I think Okore is still crocked, isn't he?
He was on the bench for our last match.
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How the hell he gets in the team before Clark and okore is beyond me.
I think Okore is still crocked, isn't he?
He was on the bench for our last match.
Fair enough, I missed that.
Let's hope the new manager can see what we do.
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He needs to see a lot more than Tim did at the end and quickly
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Another clearance straight to an opponent for Spurs 2nd goal tonight.
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He really is terrible!
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Get him out.
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Was it a two year deal? Jesus wept
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Pay him off and send him home.
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The scary thing is, that was possibly his best performance for us.
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He's absolutely finished at this level.
He's had a great career and whatnot, but fuck me, week after week he looks awful for us.
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I read on Twitter that Joleon Lescott has lost every game he's played for Villa. Is that true?
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I read on Twitter that Joleon Lescott has lost every game he's played for Villa. Is that true?
He started the small heath game. Although he was hooked at HT with the score 0-0.
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Must be league games then. Common denominator.
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well let's hope the record stands by never playing the half-arsed fuckwit again.
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Had real doubts about him, but I think he has been solid over the past few weeks. Has struck up a decent partnership with Okore as well.
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Yes he's been good of late. He seems to aid Okore too with his constant talking.
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I liked his response to scoring. No faff, just very up-for-the-fight fist-pumping.
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Villa in Denmark has probably been coaching Joleon. Useful things to say in Danish. Jores pull your finger out. Jores put it in Row Z. Jores you can pass the ball back, that's Bunn. Jores follow me it's half time.
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he's been excellent since the Wycombe incident. Sometimes you need a little reminder of your duties even if it came from unconventional means. Him and Okore are significantly better than Richards being any part of the CB pairing. In fact, Richards was getting to be a bit of liability at RB today.
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He's been excellent of late and could be of great use next year.
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Yep, he's been very good when partnered with Okore. I hope both are still here next season.
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He also scores which given our record in that dept is worth its weight in gold.
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Jores follow me it's half time.
LOL. I love Joresy but he does look a bit confused at times. Noticed Joleon coaching him today and thought this might be helping.
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Joleon is doing exactly what we'd have hoped and his legs are holding up. If he stays fit he's a key player. I think since he's actually had a bit of a run in the side he's done well, and certainly, he seems to do well with Okore. As others say, he's constantly talking to Jores, and perhaps given that Jores is young and more inclined to listen than Richards, it suits Lescott to have a padawan next to him. The sad part is, Richards could really benefit from learning from an experienced CH because he plays like he's still 18 and wet behind his ears.
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There were signs of improvement with Lescott and an understanding with Okore as far back as Arsenal at home but they seem to be getting better still. This has to be the first choice pairing for the rest of this season and next season provided we can keep them fit.
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Joleon
I didn't think you was up to it but with every game you are showing your worth
But then again I didn't think ken mcnaught was up to it after seeing his first few games
I hope you end up with the same medals as him
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Must say in recent weeks Lescott has won me over...now wait for a stinker of a game against the scouse !
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He's doing now what I hoped when we signed him, he also strikes me as the perfect partner for Okore. He's recovered well from a stinker of a start, that first half against sha would be up there with some of the worst performances i've seen from a player.
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He's doing now what I hoped when we signed him, he also strikes me as the perfect partner for Okore. He's recovered well from a stinker of a start, that first half against sha would be up there with some of the worst performances i've seen from a player.
I do wonder how much playing alongside Richards played into that? Richards isn't exactly your stay at home defender and when you have a partner who is always abandoning his duties it just adds pressure to the defenders left behind. Not saying Lescott didn't make his own mistakes because he did, but he seems more assured now having a better and more responsive playing partner.
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If Lescott keeps up the form and stays next season and can still perform, he's a cult figure in the making here I feel. He's getting there. 3 months ago I thought he was destined to be another "remember when we signed .... and he was pish."
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I think the second half at Newcastle where we got the draw was when he really started to grow. He was terrific in that one, and since then pretty much every game he has started with Okore the have looked really strong, with Lescott noticeably talking Jores through games. 3-4 times they panned in on the pair of them at the weekend and Lescott was talking away. He is becoming the player I thought we were getting. I do think Richards at centre half has contributed hugely to our position, but also on the flip side of that the injury to Okore that kept him out for so long at the start of the season.
I would love Lescott to be one who stays in the summer, takes the armband and leads us back up. Sadly I think he will head to the MLS. If he does stay though, we need to get a centre half in to cover Okore. Clark/ Baker cover Lescott on the left but are an awful pair together.
The other thing he is doing of course, which we knew he might, is scoring the odd goal. When was the last time we had a centre half look like getting 5-6 goals a season. Hell he will have more than Gabby in the last 2 if he keeps it up.
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He has benefitted as much as anyone from actually being fit. When he first joined he looked like he was running in treacle.
Sherwood should be ashamed of himself on how poorly the squad was prepared during pre season - not one of them looked fit
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He has benefitted as much as anyone from actually being fit. When he first joined he looked like he was running in treacle.
Sherwood should be ashamed of himself on how poorly the squad was prepared during pre season - not one of them looked fit
How can a man with no shame be ashamed of himself?
Just posted on the Remi Garde thread, the combination of Lescott and Okore reaching proper match fitness and swapping Guzan for Bunn all around the same time have all conspired to give us a defence worthy of the name. Add in the return of Cissokho and it's no wonder we look so much better defensively.
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The PL goal panel have changed his Norwich goal to an own goal. So that's 2 he's lost so far this season.
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Random thought - when players have these goals taken away from them, would the club take back any goal bonus that they had been paid?
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Random thought - when players have these goals taken away from them, would the club take back any goal bonus that they had been paid?
Non-random thought: What purpose does it serve who gets credited with a goal? Why does this panel exist?
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Random thought - when players have these goals taken away from them, would the club take back any goal bonus that they had been paid?
more importantly, what about the points that have already been awarded on fantasy footy? :-)
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Random thought - when players have these goals taken away from them, would the club take back any goal bonus that they had been paid?
Maybe all bonuses due are paid at the end of the season? In this case as the game was only 5 days I doubt any bonuses would have been paid yet. Interesting thought though, the PL tweeted this after they announced it was an OG
Premier League @premierleague 2h2 hours ago
And a reminder: rulings by the Goal Accreditation Panel DO NOT affect points already awarded in Fantasy Premier League
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The PL goal panel have changed his Norwich goal to an own goal. So that's 2 he's lost so far this season.
That is absolute bollocks. I've only ever known a goal taken away before if the shot/header was off target before the deflection. The Palace one fair enough, the keeper stopped it then bundled it into the net.
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The PL goal panel have changed his Norwich goal to an own goal. So that's 2 he's lost so far this season.
Who have they credited the goal to?
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Random thought - when players have these goals taken away from them, would the club take back any goal bonus that they had been paid?
Non-random thought: What purpose does it serve who gets credited with a goal? Why does this panel exist?
You have to do a century less in purgatory in the world to come for each goal you score during your life.
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Random thought - when players have these goals taken away from them, would the club take back any goal bonus that they had been paid?
Non-random thought: What purpose does it serve who gets credited with a goal? Why does this panel exist?
Logic would say that it would be linked to bookmakers who are paying out on goals scored. However with instant payouts nowadays, a panel that judges 5 days later isn't really up with the times...
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The PL goal panel have changed his Norwich goal to an own goal. So that's 2 he's lost so far this season.
Who have they credited the goal to?
Timm Klose.
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Random thought - when players have these goals taken away from them, would the club take back any goal bonus that they had been paid?
Non-random thought: What purpose does it serve who gets credited with a goal? Why does this panel exist?
I presume it's because they have an award for highest goal scorer each season.
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Random thought - when players have these goals taken away from them, would the club take back any goal bonus that they had been paid?
Non-random thought: What purpose does it serve who gets credited with a goal? Why does this panel exist?
I presume it's because they have an award for highest goal scorer each season.
So why are they even bothering to look at Villa games?
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Struggling to see why his Norwich goal was chalked off. From what I saw his header was on target and took a flick under the keeper. Certainly not enough to make it an og.
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The PL goal panel have changed his Norwich goal to an own goal. So that's 2 he's lost so far this season.
That is absolute bollocks. I've only ever known a goal taken away before if the shot/header was off target before the deflection. The Palace one fair enough, the keeper stopped it then bundled it into the net.
Let's hope they don't start going through Pele's goals for his sake.
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What a vital function this goals panel have.
People talk about the ills of the modern game, but the biggest concern for most fans has always been differentiating between a deflection and an own goal.
It's good knowin' they are out there. Takin' her easy for all us sinners.
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Mellin Abides, man.
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All The Lescott ever wanted was his goal back.
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Amazingly, he's just tweeted this a few minutes ago.
(http://i.imgur.com/v46kRJG.jpg)
https://twitter.com/JoleonLescott/status/698916338148995072
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Was just about to post this. Shows that some footballers are not very bright.
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Oh dear
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WTF is he posting that for ,,,
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What's required there is a Great Dane with the runs and a heat gun. Speaking hypothetically and not wishing to be seen to condone vandalism in any way, of course.
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Is it really possible that he is that stupid and insensitive?
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Let's hope he does a Brian Harvey in it, the cock.
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He's been another shambles of a signing, completed mugged off by Penis with this cart horse.
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Amazingly, he's just tweeted this a few minutes ago.
(http://i.imgur.com/v46kRJG.jpg)
https://twitter.com/JoleonLescott/status/698916338148995072
Nice. What's it's 0-6 time?
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Is it really possible that he is that stupid and insensitive?
Yes.
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Amazingly, he's just tweeted this a few minutes ago.
(http://i.imgur.com/v46kRJG.jpg)
https://twitter.com/JoleonLescott/status/698916338148995072
Nice. What's it's 0-6 time?
90 minutes.
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I'm used to players these days showing themselves up to be completely self absorbed ****** but he just took it to a new level.
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He's deleted it now. What an absolute twat of the very highest order. Time to start playing youth players who actually give a shit for the rest of the season.
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He's deleted it now. What an absolute twat of the very highest order. Time to start playing youth players who actually give a shit for the rest of the season.
I can still see it.
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Shouldn't laugh, but ...
Gary Derbyshire @Gaz1668 35m35 minutes ago
@JoleonLescott you've just been walloped 6-0 and you're arsed about a car that won't even fit your fucking forehead in
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He's deleted it now. What an absolute twat of the very highest order. Time to start playing youth players who actually give a shit for the rest of the season.
That would be a sure fire way to ruin young players. No, let the current 'senior' players go through the motions and get absolute fucking pelters from the fans, if they themselves can muster the spirit.
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We should go an flick chewing gum at it and giggle like girls
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I dread to think what he'd be doing if he wasn't Villa through and through.
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I mentioned earlier that as a club and a business we are not fit for purpose ,bordering on illegal ,surely what lescott has done there is also bordering the same!!!im sure incitement is an offence, prosecute the fkr and sack the twt please AVFC
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I like the registration number 1matnuc
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I don't do Twitter, but this can't be genuine, surely?
The second message about telling fans to get stuffed and counting his money, he can't be that thick?
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I don't do Twitter, but this can't be genuine, surely?
The second message about telling fans to get stuffed and counting his money, he can't be that thick?
It is genuine as it's a tick account meaning it's been verified that it's him. Can't see that counting money post though.
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I don't do Twitter, but this can't be genuine, surely?
The second message about telling fans to get stuffed and counting his money, he can't be that thick?
me neither but I saw that too
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(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/12715321_1242204915807064_1692470843150497877_n.jpg?oh=adee63f6212fb8d6b5b2fb3e607c95f5&oe=576B06E4)
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Now I never saw this one so don't know for sure it's true. It seems far too stupid and crass even for a footballer to post.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbMRmPDWIAECj1h.jpg:large)
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100% eh? You're as stupid as the board.
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This is why we're in the state we're in I think, we've got a squad of players who don't really care for anything other than their lifestyle.
Us, Newcastle, Sunderland, QPR, we've all signed exactly this type of shit for brains footballer who has enough talent to get paid a shit load of money, but lacks the integrity to remember why they are getting paid the huge salary. If going down means we can rid the club of some of these ****** then i'm all for it.
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Well his model wife didn't go for looks did she.
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Well his model wife didn't go for looks did she.
Sympathy vote
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Well his model wife didn't go for looks did she.
Sympathy vote
but she only models shoes anyway ;)
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It's starting to be reported in general press, I have a feeling we could be hearing more about this.
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If these quotes - tweets are genuine then I would expect him to be the least popular Villa fan player in the history of the club.
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May he be fired and sued for the contract - that is what I WISH for him - utter utter fucking idiot.
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Quotes are fake, car pic was genuine.
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It's starting to be reported in general press, I have a feeling we could be hearing more about this.
Not very good over paid footballer in Twitter storm.
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Now I never saw this one so don't know for sure it's true. It seems far too stupid and crass even for a footballer to post.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbMRmPDWIAECj1h.jpg:large)
The car's still there but can't see this. Maybe faked?
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Just waiting on Bacuna now to tweet a picture of one of his unflushed turds to round off a shite day.
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nicholl evans mcnaught McGrath melberg ehiogu teale ,hope he bumps into this lot in the corridors of VP sometime soon
if not just sack the twt
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Now I never saw this one so don't know for sure it's true. It seems far too stupid and crass even for a footballer to post.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbMRmPDWIAECj1h.jpg:large)
The car's still there but can't see this. Maybe faked?
The car is still there but this one was deleted is what folks are saying. As I never saw it I can't verify if it was ever up.
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They are genuine and he's getting a hammering from fans of loads of different clubs.
But he doesn't care does he? He's made that clear, maybe it getting picked up by former pros in the media might embarrass him briefly but he's right he'll go back to his big mock tudor mansion and his fleet of twats cars and count his money, up to 10 anyway.
No wonder the manager can't motivate these clueless idiots.
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Did you see the quote tweet yourself on his feed?
I really, really can't see even the dumbest of footballer posting something like that.
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Did you see the quote tweet yourself on his feed?
I really, really can't see even the dumbest of footballer posting something like that.
Calling Lescott a footballer was a bit uncalled for.
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Did you see the quote tweet yourself on his feed?
I really, really can't see even the dumbest of footballer posting something like that.
The car is still there but this one was deleted is what folks are saying. As I never saw it I can't verify if it was ever up.
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Now I never saw this one so don't know for sure it's true. It seems far too stupid and crass even for a footballer to post.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbMRmPDWIAECj1h.jpg:large)
The car's still there but can't see this. Maybe faked?
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The car is still there but this one was deleted is what folks are saying. As I never saw it I can't verify if it was ever up.
The thing that makes me think this is a fake is that the time (5:06) is the time of the car picture tweet. There's no time for any abuse to happen in between the car tweet and this one. Therefore I call bullshit on this bit. Doesn't excuse the car though.
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I don't understand this twittering
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Surely surely surely he cannot genuinely have posted this? I really hope these are fake posts because if they are genuine he has outdone Steve Hodge
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God almighty.
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nicholl evans mcnaught McGrath melberg ehiogu teale ,hope he bumps into this lot in the corridors of VP sometime soon
if not just sack the twt
He doesn't deserve being mentioned in the same breath as those
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I don't think the get stuffed bit is real. The car maybe but not the first bit
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The car one is on his Twitter account as has been said. Maybe it was Grealish or Richards who got hold of his phone and posted it but it is/was on there. I clicked on it to check ;-)
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So we have one Villa fan playing his heart out at The Emirates and another Villa fan not playing his heart out at Villa Park. Its hard to take in.
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The get stuffed tweet is there but in replies to Lescott, so that might be fake I suppose. The picture and his performance speaks a thousand words though.
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To be clear, the car one is genuine and is still up on his verified account https://twitter.com/JoleonLescott
The "count my money" one may well be fake as I never saw it up on his account and haven't seen anyone else I trust say it was either.
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The car tweet is timed 9.06 AM so providing the other one is false I don't see much wrong here.
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The telling part, if the tweets are not fake, is that everything he has is status based and unreal. When a normal, well adjusted man goes home he would say "to my marvellous wife" not that she is a "model". Likewise he refers to his "big house" not his "fine comfortable home" and his "cars" as though he can drive them several at a time. Then "count his money" like Ebeneezer Scrooge prising up the floorboards to count his hoard. Thick footballer tries to put down his betters.
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The car tweet is timed 9.06 AM so providing the other one is false I don't see much wrong here.
No it isn't, it's from 5:06 PM.
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The car tweet is timed 9.06 AM so providing the other one is false I don't see much wrong here.
I was under the impression he tweeted just after the game,shows how much I know,not too much to worry about then, hes still a ****** though
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It actually says both times which is confusing. On my laptop when I look at his account it shows it as 2hrs ago. When I go to that post it shows 9.06am. Same for everyone else? https://twitter.com/JoleonLescott/status/698916338148995072
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Have you watched him play this season? That tells you everything you need to know about this final pay day oaf.
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9:06am
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His Twitter has been hacked according to his brother.
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9:06am
Is that what time he's expected to get in to position for the first goal? Legs completely gone.
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9:06am
Is that what time he's expected to get in to position for the first goal? Legs completely gone.
My twitter says 5.06 PM
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His Twitter has been hacked according to his brother.
can he play
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9:06am
Is that what time he's expected to get in to position for the first goal? Legs completely gone.
My twitter says 5.06 PM
You're twitter is optimistic, he's not that quick.
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Car tweet was "accidental", apparently, according to his latest tweet.
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Car tweet was "accidental", apparently, according to his latest tweet.
He accidentally leant on his phone and uploaded a picture of a car?
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Shouldn't laugh, but ...
Gary Derbyshire @Gaz1668 35m35 minutes ago
@JoleonLescott you've just been walloped 6-0 and you're arsed about a car that won't even fit your fucking forehead in
It is a lovely looking car though.
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Apparently his phone unlocks itself, loads a Twitter app, finds a link to an image or adds an image from his photos application, then sends a tweet... all by itself from his pocket.
Even Apple couldn't create a phone that does that.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/JoleonLescott/status/698945192662077441/photo/1
And I'm the happy fairy,
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbMm8dAWIAAvrL4.jpg)
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Someone tell this prick that his head resembles the coin he's probably worth and he can stick his words up his arse the bullshitter.
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Yeah, yeah, whatever.
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So, so far it was posted this morning, his account was hacked, it was posted by accident. Seems legit.
I do think the "money" one was almost certainly a fake.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/JoleonLescott/status/698945192662077441/photo/1
And I'm the happy fairy,
and im john holmes,porn star
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Adam Johnson's lawyer has new defence ploy!
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Why can't he just man the fuck up and say 'sorry everyone, it was an error of judgement' everyone would think far more of you. As it is, just fuck off.
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The phone in pocket excuse is worse than the picture itself ..FFS
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It's just another shining example of how the modern footballer perceives the average football supporter. To think that the Villa support will swallow that feeble excuse of 'accidental' tweeting says it all. If he had another brain cell it would be lonely.
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To be fair, I've accidentally sent a handful of text messages like this before now.
Nothing will excuse the lack of commitment on the pitch, however. Perhaps Mr Lescott would care to explain why this was the case?
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That he admits he had a lack of commitment during the game is the most damning thing.
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"How can we be sure the apology wasn't uploaded accidentally?"
@paddypower
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What's he tweeting a picture of a Passat for anyway?
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What's he tweeting a picture of a Passat for anyway?
At least it wasn't a Defender.
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What's he tweeting a picture of a Passat for anyway?
At least it wasn't a Defender.
his villa future is in a right e-state tonight
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Notice he hasn't managed to accidentally delete the photo as yet.
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What's he tweeting a picture of a Passat for anyway?
At least it wasn't a Defender.
Maybe he meant a Polo
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Forget it, it's the least of our worries.
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he needs an escort as far away from villa as possible
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What's he tweeting a picture of a Passat for anyway?
At least it wasn't a Defender.
Maybe he meant a Polo
It certainly wasn't a Triumph.
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What's he tweeting a picture of a Passat for anyway?
At least it wasn't a Defender.
Maybe he meant a Polo
It certainly wasn't a Triumph.
no, it was a di-fiesta
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How do you accidentally tweet a picture of a car? It's hardly the same as pocket dialing is it? What a load of bollocks.
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It's trivial bullshit but it sums up a lot of things that ail us in one incident. Lack of commitment and focus on your job, lack of caring enough, obsession with the trappings of being a footballer rather than concentrating on being a footballer, lack of respect for the fans, being removed from reality and now failing to take responsibility for mistakes.
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The Liverpool players have nice cars too. Clyne has a Bentley but he still got in front of Veretout.
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If it's not pouring it's raining Datsun cogs.
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Has he just confessed to texting and driving now?
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If it's not pouring it's raining Datsun cogs.
That's the CHERRY on the cake
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He tweets very occaisionally by the looks of it. The MI5 need to get hold of whatever phone Lescott has if it can manage to all this without any manual intervention.
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I wouldn't normally condone booing our players but I might have to join in if this bloke plays for us again. Idiot
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All this on top of the chewing gum episode.
He really is a cock.
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Villa can't afFord to be Reliant on Lescott any more. If Remi could, I'm sure he'd sell the player now
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One or two might have to think about that one UKR.
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If it does nothing else this debacle shows that Lescott was and probably remains at the core of the dressing room rebellion against managerial authority. Dave Woodhall in his excellent piece 'Over the Press-ipice' suggests that something has happened in recent days to destroy the green shoots of better organisation and better morale. Could it be the flare up of the old anti-european, pro-Sherwood battles?
Wycombe and the chewinggumgate offered some clues, as did the laughing hyenas Christmas message and the alleged French only on the team bus back from Newcastle. The dressing room malcontents appear to have Lescott, Richards, Guzan and Agbonlahor as their leaders. Did Gabby's return out of the cold and his collector's piece goal last week put Remi on the back foot and give new heart to the dressing room rebels? Lescott's fan goading tweets within minutes of a horrendous defeat for which he was jointly culpable seem to suggest that the spirit of Sherwood in the dressing room is alive and well.
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That santa video did it for me regarding Guzan and Richards. Richards came across as a fucking tit of the highest order. Wanker. Guzan came across as a chavvy twat...woeful.
Gabby too. Twat.
Fuck the lot of them. The only players I feel remotely sorry for are Gueye,Bunn,Veretout,Amavi,Ayew...the rest can fucking rot. I feel for Gil,Kozak,Cissohko and any untried youngster,too.
What a sorry state of affairs. Lescott....deary me. Okore....sigh. please just disappear. I thought Okore was diabolical yesterday. His comments beforehand. I hope he leaves. Crap
Shit
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I have been up for hours, I have sat on my phone, lay on it, danced around it, but all to no avail, if I want to post something I have to press the buttons myself.
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Agree Axi. If one moment sums up the tragic ineptitude of that game it was Okore trying to shepherd a static ball over the line for a goal kick. Every brain cell of every Villa spectator was screaming at him to put the ball out for a throw. His brain cell first told him that the static ball might start rolling again then when it didn't he decided to try to dribble it and lost possession. We have filled an aircraft hangar sized Hall of Shame of Soft Goals but that one gets a special podium of its own.
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Kuwait, you must fill your pocket with cash, pictures of your model wife, the keys to your big house and the keys to your cars. Then, and only then, insert your phone in your pocket, give high fives to Richards, Gabby, Guzan, laugh loudly, slap your thigh with mirth and the assembled accoutrements of your wealth lodged in your pocket will fortuitously press your phone keys and send your Fuck You message.
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if only all these brain dead fuckers had chosen an alternative career path - like politics or something - we'd be fine.
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Will two pence peices do it Brian if not I'm fuuuucckkkeeddd
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2p or not 2p. That is the question.
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well, now is the winter of our discontent and it shows no sign of turning into a glorious summer
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what a bellend.
what a mess the club is in.
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If it does nothing else this debacle shows that Lescott was and probably remains at the core of the dressing room rebellion against managerial authority. Dave Woodhall in his excellent piece 'Over the Press-ipice' suggests that something has happened in recent days to destroy the green shoots of better organisation and better morale. Could it be the flare up of the old anti-european, pro-Sherwood battles?
Wycombe and the chewinggumgate offered some clues, as did the laughing hyenas Christmas message and the alleged French only on the team bus back from Newcastle. The dressing room malcontents appear to have Lescott, Richards, Guzan and Agbonlahor as their leaders. Did Gabby's return out of the cold and his collector's piece goal last week put Remi on the back foot and give new heart to the dressing room rebels? Lescott's fan goading tweets within minutes of a horrendous defeat for which he was jointly culpable seem to suggest that the spirit of Sherwood in the dressing room is alive and well.
They were no doubt told that last weeks performance wasn't good enough despite the win (Garde said so after the match and in Friday's press conference), and no doubt this irked one or two of them for not getting the credit they deserved, or a new contract.
So I think you might be onto something.
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If one moment sums up the tragic ineptitude of that game it was Okore trying to shepherd a static ball over the line for a goal kick. Every brain cell of every Villa spectator was screaming at him to put the ball out for a throw. His brain cell first told him that the static ball might start rolling again then when it didn't he decided to try to dribble it and lost possession.
Is it wrong to admit I laughed when I saw him doing that.
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If he was going to post a picture of something he would never have got near too if he hadn't been a footballer he could have at least posted a picture of his model wife.
At least then we could have had a wank.
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The other thing that summed up yesterday was Bunn rolling the ball out through the middle of the penalty area (he could have kicked it up field) to Westwood who then proceeded to try and take on 3 Liverpool players and ended up losing the ball. It was just ridiculous.
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So he managed to select a picture then send a word perfect message by mistake from a phone in his pocket?
Yeah, right!
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'so Mrs Lescott, what first attracted you to your multi-millionaire Klingon'?
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I've said it all along; His appointment just didn't feel right from the off - all those years of chest thumping and badge kissing at Everton when he scored/beat us.
Surely he will be finished after this twitter post. I'd sooner see a youngster given some experience for next season.
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'so Mrs Lescott, what first attracted you to your multi-millionaire Klingon'?
If his missus really is a model, then each to his own and all that, but she looks to me like she must model gloves or shoes or something. I wouldn't push my other half out of the way to reach her.
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Its just typical of us this year. A player finally gets back on side with fans and finds some form, - then goes and gets embroiled in something as stupid as this (whether true or not)
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To have accidentally sent it, he must have had it lined up to send anyway.
Just shows what a bubble footballers live in these days, even a 6-0 defeat at home doesn't bother them.
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If he was going to post a picture of something he would never have got near too if he hadn't been a footballer he could have at least posted a picture of his model wife.
At least then we could have had a wank.
She's a bit rough looking if you ask me, wouldn't like to meet her in a dark alley without her make up on.
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If he was going to post a picture of something he would never have got near too if he hadn't been a footballer he could have at least posted a picture of his model wife.
She's a bit rough looking if you ask me, wouldn't like to meet her in a dark alley without her make up on.
Her make up wouldn't suit you. I'd put your own on if you are going to meet her in a dark alley.
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If he was going to post a picture of something he would never have got near too if he hadn't been a footballer he could have at least posted a picture of his model wife.
She's a bit rough looking if you ask me, wouldn't like to meet her in a dark alley without her make up on.
Her make up wouldn't suit you. I'd put your own on if you are going to meet her in a dark alley.
*snigger*
We want photos.
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To be fair, Jurgen Klopp understands more about the Villa than the likes of Lescott, Richards and Gabby (all of whom have been Captain this season - that says it all).
...and quite a few of the other players too.
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I've said it all along; His appointment just didn't feel right from the off - all those years of chest thumping and badge kissing at Everton when he scored/beat us.
Surely he will be finished after this twitter post. I'd sooner see a youngster given some experience for next season.
I find this desire to throw youngsters into to our current situation quite odd. If we have any hope for these youngsters we shouldn't want them anywhere near the team at the moment. They need to be protected from what is to come.
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To be fair, Jurgen Klopp understands more about the Villa than the likes of Lescott, Richards and Gabby (all of whom have been Captain this season - that says it all).
...and quite a few of the other players too.
Both Jurgen Klopp and Alan Pardew have shown more respect for the club than most of the doughnuts paid to play for it.
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To be fair, Jurgen Klopp understands more about the Villa than the likes of Lescott, Richards and Gabby (all of whom have been Captain this season - that says it all).
...and quite a few of the other players too.
I like Klopp, so it annoys me he's the manager of Liverpool.
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What did Klopp say?
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What did Klopp say?
Something along the lines of 'today is not a day to sing songs. Aston Villa are a great football club going through a difficult time' or words to that effect.
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I've said it all along; His appointment just didn't feel right from the off - all those years of chest thumping and badge kissing at Everton when he scored/beat us.
Surely he will be finished after this twitter post. I'd sooner see a youngster given some experience for next season.
I find this desire to throw youngsters into to our current situation quite odd. If we have any hope for these youngsters we shouldn't want them anywhere near the team at the moment. They need to be protected from what is to come.
If we want to protect the kids I think we should make N'Zogbia play just so he does something for all the money he is getting.
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I've said it all along; His appointment just didn't feel right from the off - all those years of chest thumping and badge kissing at Everton when he scored/beat us.
Surely he will be finished after this twitter post. I'd sooner see a youngster given some experience for next season.
I find this desire to throw youngsters into to our current situation quite odd. If we have any hope for these youngsters we shouldn't want them anywhere near the team at the moment. They need to be protected from what is to come.
If we want to protect the kids I think we should make N'Zogbia play just so he does something for all the money he is getting.
Make him play in goal or better still he can be a ball boy.
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What did Klopp say?
Something along the lines of 'today is not a day to sing songs. Aston Villa are a great football club going through a difficult time' or words to that effect.
Or in other words, having been involved in English football for two minutes he has more of a handle on what the name Aston Villa means than do the club's owner, most of his executive appointments and certainly many of the itinerant millionaires who have disgraced the colours in recent years.
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What did Klopp say?
Something along the lines of 'today is not a day to sing songs. Aston Villa are a great football club going through a difficult time' or words to that effect.
I heard that Klopp clip and I thought to myself "Is he on a horse?"
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it's the way you tell 'em your reverence
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Reluctant as I am to defend the daft Klingon, could it be a scenario where he has aimed to share that image to friend on a smartphone, and rather than sharing it via gmail or viber or whatever, he selected twitter.
I could see it happening, if his hand/eye coordination are anything like the rest of his general lack of coordination.
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Baker, Bennett, Robinson and Gardner may be not be prem class but I dont think we would ever argue with their committment. Are any of these available for recall? Would be good prep for next year as well.
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It's trivial bullshit but it sums up a lot of things that ail us in one incident. Lack of commitment and focus on your job, lack of caring enough, obsession with the trappings of being a footballer rather than concentrating on being a footballer, lack of respect for the fans, being removed from reality and now failing to take responsibility for mistakes.
Heard it being discussed on Talksport earlier. The cynic in me, says it was a response to all the 'haterz' for daring to criticise his performance. If that is the case, it just goes to show the mentality of that type of footballer. Instead of posting pictures of his league title medal or his England caps in response to criticism, he posts a picture of a car.
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I've said it all along; His appointment just didn't feel right from the off - all those years of chest thumping and badge kissing at Everton when he scored/beat us.
Surely he will be finished after this twitter post. I'd sooner see a youngster given some experience for next season.
I find this desire to throw youngsters into to our current situation quite odd. If we have any hope for these youngsters we shouldn't want them anywhere near the team at the moment. They need to be protected from what is to come.
If we want to protect the kids I think we should make N'Zogbia play just so he does something for all the money he is getting.
Make him play in goal or better still he can be a ball boy.
Sidwell's theorem of the linear relationship between footballing ability and game time being inversely proportional to positive interventions as a ball boy?
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Joleon, Joleon, don't take your love to town
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Professional footballer in pisses supporters off because he just does not give a shit, well there's a surprise.
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VID, Sidwell's Theorem regrettably cannot function in isolation without factoring in Kozak's First Law of Active Duration. N'Zogbia's yield of physical presence benefit can only be measured when the number of functions as a ball boy are defined against durations between those functions.
In the layman's language of Woodhall's observation to whit, the less something is done the better it appears to be being done.
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Shouldn't this thread be renamed "Joleon Lescott - CONDEMNED"?
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Shouldn't this thread be renamed "Joleon Lescott - CONDEMNED"?
"Joleon Lescott - UNCONCERNED"?
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Joleon Lescott - Come back Steve Hodge all is forgiven.
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Joleon Lescott - lets see where your girlfriend is in ten years time.
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not with a bald broke Klingon. I mean, have you ever seen a bald broke Klingon?
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Shouldn't this thread be renamed "Joleon Lescott - CONDEMNED"?
"Joleon Lescott - UNCONCERNED"?
CONFIRMED DICKHEAD
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Brian, we both forgot to allow for Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.
The very act of making an observation changes the state of the observed system, hence the uncertainty of the validity of the observation.
Or to put it in layman's terms. That's why every time you look at him he looks like he hasn't got a bleeding clue.
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You put me in a quandry VID. Heisenberg is a brilliant chemist but he confused looking after his family with taking all kinds of shit from his goofy wife. She should have been the one in the bathtub of hydrofluoric acid IMHO.
The uncertainty of my observation is predicated on my total lack of any kind of meaningful education. I only know about the Sidwell Theorem because it was actually what was written on the blackboard in the corridor of MIT in Good Will Hunting.
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You put me in a quandry VID. Heisenberg is a brilliant chemist but he confused looking after his family with taking all kinds of shit from his goofy wife. She should have been the one in the bathtub of hydrofluoric acid IMHO.
Brilliant Brian. You've cheered me up.
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do we know with any authority yet what tweets he definitely sent and what were fake ?
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The car one was 'accidental'. His mealy-mouthed apology was genuine. The other one was a spoof. I think.
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You put me in a quandry VID. Heisenberg is a brilliant chemist but he confused looking after his family with taking all kinds of shit from his goofy wife. She should have been the one in the bathtub of hydrofluoric acid IMHO.
Hydrofluoric acid would have been strong enough to eat the calcium in her bones, and would have caused her a long, painful death had she not been already, but it wouldn't have destroyed the corpse.
Back on Lescott, he was dumb enough to tweet that image. Does anything think he'll be dumb enough to park it in view of the public?
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The car one was 'accidental'. His mealy-mouthed apology was genuine. The other one was a spoof. I think.
so we basicaly have to decide whether the car photo was accidental or a fingers up to the fans
it all depends which way we fall on that question as to how much of a baddie he is
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The car one was 'accidental'. His mealy-mouthed apology was genuine. The other one was a spoof. I think.
so we basicaly have to decide whether the car photo was accidental or a fingers up to the fans
it all depends which way we fall on that question as to how much of a baddie he is
I reckon he did the car one as a big F you to everyone. Then came the backlash and his excuse a three year old wouldn't believe.
I'd hate to think what he would do if he wasn't such a staunch Villa man through and through.
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I reckon he did the car one as a big F you to everyone.
That's my take on it too.
We have such classy players at our club...
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The car one was 'accidental'. His mealy-mouthed apology was genuine. The other one was a spoof. I think.
so we basicaly have to decide whether the car photo was accidental or a fingers up to the fans
it all depends which way we fall on that question as to how much of a baddie he is
Regardless of how big a baddie he is, he's a king size twat.
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Joleon Lescott - Come back Steve Hodge all is forgiven.
That is harsh.
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He meant the car one, no doubt. His "accident" excuse holds no water.
Scumbag.
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Even if it was an accident, and I really can't see how it was, he could delete the photo but has chosen not to.
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Joleon Lescott - Come back Steve Hodge all is forgiven.
That is harsh.
To be honest based on general performances and can't be f**king arsedness Richards is closer to winning the full set of O level, A level and HNC. (Ordinary level, Arsehole level and Hodge Near Certificate.)
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I actually think it probably was an accident, but his explanation was ridiculous. He needed to expand much more on how it happened to ensure people believe it and say how horrified he was that people would think he was being so flippant and disrespectful after a loss.
But from what I have seen of Lescott (and granted it appears he let himself down at Wycombe), I don't think he would have been so crass. It makes no sense, he is an experienced enough player to realise that a 6-0 defeat is really quite awful and that the reaction of the supporters to it was if anything mild. He had no reason to lash out, especially in such a bizarre way. So I think in it was in some way a mistake but he should have been much more detailed in his explanation, and should have clarified further once he realised that his explanation had been ridiculed.
The club in general has been very quiet since Monday. There has been pretty much nothing on the OS - from the board, manager or players. I hope they are busy creating a siege mentality that will produce a reaction of some sort against Stoke.
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Joleon Lescott - Come back Steve Hodge all is forgiven.
That is harsh.
To be honest based on general performances and can't be f**king arsedness Richards is closer to winning the full set of O level, A level and HNC. (Ordinary level, Arsehole level and Hodge Near Certificate.)
No never close to Hodge. In any case Lescott has won two matches for us with winning goals.
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Even if it was an accident, and I really can't see how it was, he could delete the photo but has chosen not to.
It's his car and as he was depressed about the match he just wanted to cheer himself up. I don't see anything wrong other than may be a bit ill advised.
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Not sure about the Hodge comparison either. He was just stupid and his explantion tweet made him look even stupider. It's a shame because he's being playing ok of late.
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Joleon Lescott - Come back Steve Hodge all is forgiven.
That is harsh.
To be honest based on general performances and can't be f**king arsedness Richards is closer to winning the full set of O level, A level and HNC. (Ordinary level, Arsehole level and Hodge Near Certificate.)
No never close to Hodge. In any case Lescott has won two matches for us with winning goals.
I was pointing at Richards being closer than Lescott, but no, they've both got a hell of a way to go before they get that far.
To be fair, they've both passed the first 2 exams with flying colours.
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I reckon he did the car one as a big F you to everyone.
That's my take on it too.
We have such classy players at our club...
My take too. As I put in an earlier post, very telling that instead of posting his achievements in the game as a response to his critics, he posted a picture of a car.
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Even if it was an accident, and I really can't see how it was, he could delete the photo but has chosen not to.
It's his car and as he was depressed about the match he just wanted to cheer himself up. I don't see anything wrong other than may be a bit ill advised.
I'm not sure if you're being serious.
He should marry his car, that would cheer the poor thing up.
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I was pointing at Richards being closer than Lescott, but no, they've both got a hell of a way to go before they get that far.
To be fair, they've both passed the first 2 exams with flying colours.
Ooops...sorry.
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I was pointing at Richards being closer than Lescott, but no, they've both got a hell of a way to go before they get that far.
To be fair, they've both passed the first 2 exams with flying colours.
Ooops...sorry.
No worries. Unfortunately we've got a squad plenty of gutless wankers, so it's easy to lose track of which one we're slagging off. >:(
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Are these players still here?
I'm trying to pick a team for the Stoke match. It's hard. Some players may need to be magically recalled from loans. If not, either play nobody in that position, a supporter or use a pot plant. (I'd go with a Venus flytrap
4,1,3,2 formation
Bunn
Whole defence-youth players.
Gueye in front of the back four and Lyden central ahead of him.
Our two most talented youth players either side of Lyden.
Sellars and Robinson up front.
Bench.
Veretout, Grealish, Steer, Cissohko, Clark, youth players.
Fuck the rest.
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Are these players still here?
I'm trying to pick a team for the Stoke match. It's hard. Some players may need to be magically recalled from loans. If not, either play nobody in that position, a supporter or use a pot plant. (I'd go with a Venus flytrap
4,1,3,2 formation
Bunn
Whole defence-youth players.
Gueye in front of the back four and Lyden central ahead of him.
Our two most talented youth players either side of Lyden.
Sellars and Robinson up front.
Bench.
Veretout, Grealish, Steer, Cissohko, Clark, youth players.
Fuck the rest.
Bunn
Calder Okore Clark Cissokho
Gana Green
Grealish Keinan Davis Veretout
Agbonlahor
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Quite frankly the season is over . It really doesn't matter who plays as we continue our relegation procession.
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For someone who is apparently Villa and loves the club he has a strange way of showing it at times. I get the impression he is both oblivious to the potential outcome of his actions and just flat out thick.
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Quite frankly the season is over . It really doesn't matter who plays as we continue our relegation procession.
4 quick wins and we're right back in it
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Are these players still here?
I'm trying to pick a team for the Stoke match. It's hard. Some players may need to be magically recalled from loans. If not, either play nobody in that position, a supporter or use a pot plant. (I'd go with a Venus flytrap
4,1,3,2 formation
Bunn
Whole defence-youth players.
Gueye in front of the back four and Lyden central ahead of him.
Our two most talented youth players either side of Lyden.
Sellars and Robinson up front.
Bench.
Veretout, Grealish, Steer, Cissohko, Clark, youth players.
Fuck the rest.
Bunn
Calder Okore Clark Cissokho
Gana Green
Grealish Keinan Davis Veretout
Agbonlahor
Your playing Calder and Davis out of position there I think.
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Now challenging fans to meet him at Bodymoor... He really is an idiot...
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Now challenging fans to meet him at Bodymoor... He really is an idiot...
He should stay off twitter for a while I think.
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Now challenging fans to meet him at Bodymoor... He really is an idiot...
please concentrate on challenging your counterpart striker ! never mind fans
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Now challenging fans to meet him at Bodymoor... He really is an idiot...
What a fuckwit.
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Utter numpty.
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Now challenging fans to meet him at Bodymoor... He really is an idiot...
He should stay off twitter for a while I think.
Her hasn't tweeted since Sunday.
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Now challenging fans to meet him at Bodymoor... He really is an idiot...
He should stay off twitter for a while I think.
Her hasn't tweeted since Sunday.
So I take it in typical Daily Mirror fashion, they're continuing to dig up stories? Can't say I'm surprised.
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Now challenging fans to meet him at Bodymoor... He really is an idiot...
He should stay off twitter for a while I think.
Her hasn't tweeted since Sunday.
So I take it in typical Daily Mirror fashion, they're continuing to dig up stories? Can't say I'm surprised.
It was on something else - Instagram or suchlike.
He's no Villa fan.
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Now challenging fans to meet him at Bodymoor... He really is an idiot...
He should stay off twitter for a while I think.
Her hasn't tweeted since Sunday.
So I take it in typical Daily Mirror fashion, they're continuing to dig up stories? Can't say I'm surprised.
It was on something else - Instagram or suchlike.
He's no Villa fan.
I've never been on Instagram. Is it all the rage?
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It's ace! I get followed by skimpily-dressed Russian birds almost every day.
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It's ace! I get followed by skimpily-dressed Russian birds almost every day.
I Moscow on it then.
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It's ace! I get followed by skimpily-dressed Russian birds almost every day.
I Moscow on it then.
He's certainly pushkin his luck
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They all seem to have few photos on their accounts but links to their websites, which one can only assume contain their family photos...
Instagram is also great for photos of your dinner. Or your car if you are a footballer.
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Aston Villa defender Joleon Lescott has hit the headlines again today after seemingly daring a fan to meet him at the club's training ground.
The former Albion defender caused controversy at the weekend after his side's hammering at home to Liverpool when he tweeted a picture of a flash Mercedes only to later apologise that it was 'accidentally' posted while he was driving with his phone in his pocket.
Now the former England defender, 33, has responded to a personal threat on his j.p.lescott Instagram account, by telling a fan to confront him face-to-face at Bodymoor Heath.
A message told @oward98 : “I'm at the training ground tomorrow. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE come down and try. FACT YOU WONT.”
Lescott is thought to have been angered at the personal slur which included threatening references.
He could even alert the police, but that is unlikely.
The star has embroiled himself in controversy lately after a verbal spat with Villa fans at League Two Wycombe in the FA Cup last month.
The defender, signed from Albion last summer for £2million, was linked with a January move to USA to link up with pal Robbie Keane at LA Galaxy, who were offering him a three-year deal.
It's thought he will look at his options in the summer with a move to the States an appealing option.
After growing up a Villa fan, Lescott initially expressed his delight at finally joining his boyhood club last summer.
But the move has turned sour with Villa doomed to relegation under boss Remi Garde.
Lescott was widely criticised and ridiculed for his car tweet after Villa's biggest home loss in 81 years with pundits like striker Stan Collymore weighing in.
he Mirror reports that the defender added on Instagram: “That Tweet got more press than our performance. That div Stan Collymore getting involved like he never made a mistake, he's a complete tool.”
Lescott was asked why he hasn't deleted the picture of the Mercedes from his Twitter account.
He replied: “Why delete it? It happened so I've gotta deal with it. Shall I just delete Sunday's game No it happened so I have gotta deal with it.”
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Lescott at the training ground? No evidence of that this season.
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That bit about Collymore has actually made me laugh out loud.
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yet another legacy of the sky tv era: Aston Villa players (no longer) drive Austin Rover.
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The man is a prick and despite playing well of late, I hope we never see him in a Villa shirt again
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yet another legacy of the sky tv era: Aston Villa players (no longer) drive Austin Rover.
True. But if he'd posted a picture of his MG Montego, he'd have been accused of going after the sympathy vote.
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Knowing how mouthy some twats are when safely hiding behind a phone/computer I don't blame him for that. Not the brightest thing to do but some people think it's okay to say whatever they want and to keep pushing at someone thinking there will be no comeback.
"Lescott is thought to have been angered at the personal slur which included threatening references."
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Nice to see that he also uses FACT to underline the point that he's won the argument.
Either that his autocorrect has been set to avoid spelling TWAT.
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Knowing how mouthy some twats are when safely hiding behind a phone/computer I don't blame him for that. Not the brightest thing to do but some people think it's okay to say whatever they want and to keep pushing at someone thinking there will be no comeback.
"Lescott is thought to have been angered at the personal slur which included threatening references."
I'n sure anybody remotely famous with a Twitter account will get abuse from idiots at some point. Surely the best thing is to just ignore them, especially the day after you've just been thrashed at home and caught posting a photo of a twatty car.
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Depends what was said to him, just because he's famous and had a shit game doesn't mean it should be open season for people to say what they want to him. I'm a believer that if you mouth off to someone don't be surprised if they hit back, regardless of who they are.
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Didn't Remi Garde say something like "I will now find 11 players ready to fight....." post match Sunday? Well looks like he has one volunteer in Lescott so just another ten to find.
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It's ace! I get followed by skimpily-dressed Russian birds almost every day.
I Moscow on it then.
He's certainly pushkin his luck
To be fair to Lescott, his problems in defence would be a lot less obvious if we'd just started the season with a good pair o' strikers.
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Joleon Lescott - Come back Steve Hodge all is forgiven.
Just in case you're reading this Steve, no it fucking isn't.
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Depends what was said to him, just because he's famous and had a shit game doesn't mean it should be open season for people to say what they want to him. I'm a believer that if you mouth off to someone don't be surprised if they hit back, regardless of who they are.
Someone should direct him to James Blunt's twitter feed, there is a man who dispatches internet trolls with consummate ease. If Lescott has offered someone out on twitter, he's making himself look a proper boneheaded fool. Daft Klingon...
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He could regret posting that. He could be late for training tomorrow because he was unable to get through a crowd of twenty-five thousand blokes queuing up waiting to punch his fucking lights out.
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He could regret posting that. He could be late for training tomorrow because he was unable to get through a crowd of twenty-five thousand blokes queuing up waiting to punch his fucking lights out.
That really made me smile 😊. Cheers
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Lescott was asked why he hasn't deleted the picture of the Mercedes from his Twitter account.
He replied: “Why delete it? It happened so I've gotta deal with it. Shall I just delete Sunday's game No it happened so I have gotta deal with it.”
That's fair enough. Of course the dickhead threatening him online will never turn up at Bodymoor Heath, that kind of behavior is typical of the keyboard warriors as PWS rightly points out. What the hell is the fella thinking? Of course he's run to his mates and tell them he's been deleted from Lescott's twitter followers and see it as some kind of badge of honour. Obviously he cares more about the Villa than the rest of us.
The whole thing has gone way over the top. On Sunday lunchtime we were all happy he was lining up along side Jores, now suddenly he's Public Enemy Nº1. Now it seems okay to call him a "klingon". Some people are no better than our players. The reality is he's been one of our better performers, not saying much I know but I'd rather have him lining up against Stoke than Clark. He's got 12 more games to prove his point, show his love for the club he says he supports, give his all before he moves on to other pastures.
My money is on him delivering the goods or at least giving it his best shot. Whether after this circus of kicking the scapegoat the fans give him a chance, is another matter. Things are shit enough without kicking ourselves in the goolies just to show how much more care than the players.
There are far more concerning matters at the Club than a bloody tweet from somebody that obviously doesn't fully understand the rules of social media. Time to move on.
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The car tweet made him look a crass indiscreet, insensitive tool, then he compounds that error with a shite excuse of my phone was in my pocket. He then rises to the bait of a twitter troll by offering him out playground style, he shouldn't be allowed a phone, he's clearly too immature
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Personally, I can't understand for the life of me why players have Twitter accounts. It's simply asking for trouble.
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It's ace! I get followed by skimpily-dressed Russian birds almost every day.
I Moscow on it then.
He's certainly pushkin his luck
To be fair to Lescott, his problems in defence would be a lot less obvious if we'd just started the season with a good pair o' strikers.
*Applauds*
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Very, very clever indeed. Standing ovation required there.
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Personally, I can't understand for the life of me why players have Twitter accounts. It's simply asking for trouble.
As someone who was once roundly bollocked at work for moaning about my employers on social media, I can only concur that professionals as high profile as footballers must be fucking nuts to have social media accounts, that aren't vetted by their employers, especially people as crass and stupid as most footballers tend to be...
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In the grand scheme of things, a twat of a footballer posting a picture of a twattish car wouldn't be that that big of a deal.
His timing was a bit lousy, but that's been the case for him most of the season, TBF.
Soon after the furore kicked off at the weekend, I thought it was something and nothing. That perhaps some ropey work experience PR was manning his twitter account or that he had selected the wrong share option with his big Klingon sausage fingers.
His reaction since that has been pretty shit, mind. Not deleting the photo and then offering supporters out.
We really need more negative publicity, so well played.
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What a gobby chav that bloke must be who sent that tweet to him. (Awful I know).
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In the grand scheme of things, a twat of a footballer posting a picture of a twattish car wouldn't be that that big of a deal.
His timing was a bit lousy, but that's been the case for him most of the season, TBF.
Soon after the furore kicked off at the weekend, I thought it was something and nothing. That perhaps some ropey work experience PR was manning his twitter account or that he had selected the wrong share option with his big Klingon sausage fingers.
His reaction since that has been pretty shit, mind. Not deleting the photo and then offering supporters out.
We really need more negative publicity, so well played.
Big Klingon sausage fingers, very funny, bravo! 😁
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Bit of a dick isn't he?
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This is why I don't possess a Twatter or Facefcuk account :)
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This is why I don't possess a Twatter or Facefcuk account :)
Twitter is so 2013 and Facebook bah, that's for your mum and dad. Instagram is where it's at, get with the program daddio...
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Just been watching The Great Sport Relief Bake Off. Lescott's £120K car would buy 48,000 malaria nets. Bet
he won't!!! He's too self obsessed and intent at swearing at Villa fans and offering them out for a fight.
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Are these players still here?
I'm trying to pick a team for the Stoke match. It's hard. Some players may need to be magically recalled from loans. If not, either play nobody in that position, a supporter or use a pot plant. (I'd go with a Venus flytrap
4,1,3,2 formation
Bunn
Whole defence-youth players.
Gueye in front of the back four and Lyden central ahead of him.
Our two most talented youth players either side of Lyden.
Sellars and Robinson up front.
Bench.
Veretout, Grealish, Steer, Cissohko, Clark, youth players.
Fuck the rest.
Bunn
Calder Okore Clark Cissokho
Gana Green
Grealish Keinan Davis Veretout
Agbonlahor
Your playing Calder and Davis out of position there I think.
I am unfortunately. I couldn't find eleven other players that weren't either really shit or not prepared to fight.
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In 50 years of supporting villa I can't ever remember the relationship between players and supporters being so poor. Yep there have been players who got stick in the past but there were always players that were well loved by supporters. There just seems no love lost these days between the two camps. Sad.
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Im just ashamed of my football team - the snake parts 1 & 2, jack grealish what i did last summer, war of the gum and escape from wycombe, n'zogbia the turd that won't flush and now rocky bal-lescott. I wish the whole lot of them would just fuck off.
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Gumgate sticks in the craw. Fucking flobbing fuckers.
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What has annoyed me, is the total silence from the club, do we not have a PR department or media advisers within the club, Players should be told "Feelings are a bit raw at the moment with the supporters, please stay of your social media sites, I am sure we can all afford a phone call or a private sms if we need to contact someone, or show them what we have availed ourselves of this week, especially after a 6-0 defeat and what you are flashing up on your pages, probably most of those guys will take a couple of years wages to earn that much, never mind spend it on a vehicle, no pictures of you flat on your back because you have been sucking some form of gas, or because you can't stand up for the amount of vodka you have drunk, please use your portable devices to have a look at the league table, take a breathe a for once in your life fucking think"
A statement from the club that the players have been advised of media use, easy , piss of piss.
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I am afraid Kuwait that our PR department has been told that Mr Lerner has made his instructions quite clear on communications with the media. Hide under the table.
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This is what annoys me Brian about the whole set up and to me, will if it continues leave us rotting for a very long long time.
Understand a financial cut back to an extent, easy not to understand when it is not your money, but a lot of what is wrong would cost nothing to repair, supporters feel shit at the moment and it appears, no it is a fact, Randy Lerner F.C does not give a shit about us.
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Lescott was asked why he hasn't deleted the picture of the Mercedes from his Twitter account.
He replied: “Why delete it? It happened so I've gotta deal with it. Shall I just delete Sunday's game No it happened so I have gotta deal with it.”
That's fair enough. Of course the dickhead threatening him online will never turn up at Bodymoor Heath, that kind of behavior is typical of the keyboard warriors as PWS rightly points out. What the hell is the fella thinking? Of course he's run to his mates and tell them he's been deleted from Lescott's twitter followers and see it as some kind of badge of honour. Obviously he cares more about the Villa than the rest of us.
The whole thing has gone way over the top. On Sunday lunchtime we were all happy he was lining up along side Jores, now suddenly he's Public Enemy Nº1. Now it seems okay to call him a "klingon". Some people are no better than our players. The reality is he's been one of our better performers, not saying much I know but I'd rather have him lining up against Stoke than Clark. He's got 12 more games to prove his point, show his love for the club he says he supports, give his all before he moves on to other pastures.
My money is on him delivering the goods or at least giving it his best shot. Whether after this circus of kicking the scapegoat the fans give him a chance, is another matter. Things are shit enough without kicking ourselves in the goolies just to show how much more care than the players.
There are far more concerning matters at the Club than a bloody tweet from somebody that obviously doesn't fully understand the rules of social media. Time to move on.
I agree I think it's all gone way over the top.
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Yes Kuwait, I have had a similar bee in my bonnet ever since Randy took over. There has formed around the club, whether by plan or neglect I have no idea, a policy of attempting to manage and control news from the club. This is all well and good if it manages well a free and frank flow of information to those most interested in the club but has the absolute opposite of the effect intended if the recipients of the information are treated without respect.
The fall back position was and still remains to say nothing, whether it is MON's flounce, the alleged bullying, the slithering of a snake, the January transfer window that never was, gumgate or Joleon's magic trouserphone.
This is why Remi Garde is so important to us and why it would be the final unmitigated disaster if we should drive him out. He speaks openly and honestly regardless of the impossibility of the tasks heaped on him by a cowardly board and cowardly players.
His three immediate predecessors spoke in red top tabloid cliches and the board speaks marketing junkspeak like "false narratives" "building something great" "I did not really consider fans to be customers" and "wasting a good crisis" while the owner is down the rabbit hole with Alice looking for his tribe.
Lescott and Richards and Agbonlahor and Guzan and all the others who have no real regard for who pays them their inflated wages should be told a real and simple truth. Namely that they should stop behaving like teenagers playing with their phones and try to behave with some maturity and some personal dignity.
The club for its part should make it known that that message has been got across to the players but don't hold your breath.
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Im just ashamed of my football team - the snake parts 1 & 2, jack grealish what i did last summer, war of the gum and escape from wycombe, n'zogbia the turd that won't flush and now rocky bal-lescott. I wish the whole lot of them would just fuck off.
They're a laughing stock as well as an embarrassment to the supporters. Perfect summing up of their antics over the last twelve months.
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It saddens me to say that there is no bond between any of the players and the support.
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Im just ashamed of my football team - the snake parts 1 & 2, jack grealish what i did last summer, war of the gum and escape from wycombe, n'zogbia the turd that won't flush and now rocky bal-lescott. I wish the whole lot of them would just fuck off.
They're a laughing stock as well as an embarrassment to the supporters. Perfect summing up of their antics over the last twelve months.
Yes, an excellent summary which leads to a necessary redefining of the phrase ' Professional Footballer'. For sure in the past there have been some absolute wasters wearing the famous shirt but in all my time of supporting Villa I have never known so many poor excuses of the term 'professional' collectively dragging this great Club into disrepute. My love of the institution that is Aston Villa Football Club will never waver but some of its constituent parts I am really beginning to loath.
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Yes Kuwait, I have had a similar bee in my bonnet ever since Randy took over. There has formed around the club, whether by plan or neglect I have no idea, a policy of attempting to manage and control news from the club. This is all well and good if it manages well a free and frank flow of information to those most interested in the club but has the absolute opposite of the effect intended if the recipients of the information are treated without respect.
The fall back position was and still remains to say nothing, whether it is MON's flounce, the alleged bullying, the slithering of a snake, the January transfer window that never was, gumgate or Joleon's magic trouserphone.
This is why Remi Garde is so important to us and why it would be the final unmitigated disaster if we should drive him out. He speaks openly and honestly regardless of the impossibility of the tasks heaped on him by a cowardly board and cowardly players.
His three immediate predecessors spoke in red top tabloid cliches and the board speaks marketing junkspeak like "false narratives" "building something great" "I did not really consider fans to be customers" and "wasting a good crisis" while the owner is down the rabbit hole with Alice looking for his tribe.
Lescott and Richards and Agbonlahor and Guzan and all the others who have no real regard for who pays them their inflated wages should be told a real and simple truth. Namely that they should stop behaving like teenagers playing with their phones and try to behave with some maturity and some personal dignity.
The club for its part should make it known that that message has been got across to the players but don't hold your breath.
The thing is Brian that it shouldn't be the manager's job to do all this communication work. It adds a whole load of stress to his workload and unfairly leaves him to be the total fall guy for all the problems at the club. It's a piss poor way to manage communication and it inevitably leaves a vacuum that gets filled with mindless Tweets, press speculation and various levels of shit-stirring.
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I am afraid Kuwait that our PR department has been told that Mr Lerner has made his instructions quite clear on communications with the media. Hide under the table.
Duck and Cover
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"Joleon's Magic Trouserphone are pleased to announce that they will be supporting African Car Reverser on their upcoming tour"
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Billy agree totally, but I think Brian does as well, the only verbal communications out of Villa Park is that of Remi Garde and the only thing he should and to be fair mostly is talking about is the football.
There have been incidents aplenty that should have caused some reaction from the club, to let supporters know that these issues are being dealt with and that these actions are not acceptable from representatives of Aston Villa at any time, I do not expect to hear that this player or that player has been fined, that's internal club disciplinary measures and as such should stay internal.
But if there is a media adviser within the ranks of Villa Park, to allow a player to make a statement that the picture appeared because I had the phone in my pocket and then regardless of the abuse received within a couple of days the same player coming to verbal fisticuffs with a person, not even sure if the person was a supporter and saying come to Bodymoor and I will sort you out, it stinks of a total lack of discipline within the squad, basically not giving a dam what the club may do to the individual because they know that will be nothing and even more so a total lack of respect for the supporters of this club.
Holis may be a bean counter, but if he does not get a grip of many many other issues at the club, he might not have many beans to count.
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Offering a
fan customer out on twitter would be gross misconduct in most businesses. Not sure that the club can comment though - these days journos are cut and paste media trolls desperate for traffic to serve ads on their websites e.g:
Villa say "We have reminded players to act responsibly on social media"
Media troll/journo "Villa slam Lescott for fan fight tweet #avfc #klingon"
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It goes back to what has been asked on here before, who is our head of media and PR these days? Do we actually have one since Brian Doogan left? I know there is a Scottish bloke who sometimes sits next to Remi in his press conferences at at Bodymoor Heath, is he a scaled-down version of Doogan?
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just to clarify is he a Scottish midget?
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I am afraid Kuwait that our PR department has been told that Mr Lerner has made his instructions quite clear on communications with the media. Hide under the table.
Or if possible behind the sofa at least an ocean away...
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This is what annoys me Brian about the whole set up and to me, will if it continues leave us rotting for a very long long time.
Understand a financial cut back to an extent, easy not to understand when it is not your money, but a lot of what is wrong would cost nothing to repair,
This is so true.
I worry that Hollis and Fox are excellent numbers men, but poor at the nuances of what makes those numbers spin at a football club.
There seems to be a lack of will, and know-how at he club, not a lack of money.
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It goes back to what has been asked on here before, who is our head of media and PR these days? Do we actually have one since Brian Doogan left? I know there is a Scottish bloke who sometimes sits next to Remi in his press conferences at at Bodymoor Heath, is he a scaled-down version of Doogan?
Tommy Jordan. No, me neither.
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Lescott was asked why he hasn't deleted the picture of the Mercedes from his Twitter account.
He replied: “Why delete it? It happened so I've gotta deal with it. Shall I just delete Sunday's game No it happened so I have gotta deal with it.”
That's fair enough. Of course the dickhead threatening him online will never turn up at Bodymoor Heath, that kind of behavior is typical of the keyboard warriors as PWS rightly points out. What the hell is the fella thinking? Of course he's run to his mates and tell them he's been deleted from Lescott's twitter followers and see it as some kind of badge of honour. Obviously he cares more about the Villa than the rest of us.
The whole thing has gone way over the top. On Sunday lunchtime we were all happy he was lining up along side Jores, now suddenly he's Public Enemy Nº1. Now it seems okay to call him a "klingon". Some people are no better than our players. The reality is he's been one of our better performers, not saying much I know but I'd rather have him lining up against Stoke than Clark. He's got 12 more games to prove his point, show his love for the club he says he supports, give his all before he moves on to other pastures.
My money is on him delivering the goods or at least giving it his best shot. Whether after this circus of kicking the scapegoat the fans give him a chance, is another matter. Things are shit enough without kicking ourselves in the goolies just to show how much more care than the players.
There are far more concerning matters at the Club than a bloody tweet from somebody that obviously doesn't fully understand the rules of social media. Time to move on.
Well said Mark.
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Lescott interview with Henry Winter.
Does anyone have a subscription to The Times? Could you paste the interview here?
I'm interested to see what shit he's came out with now
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/article4695215.ece
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Lescott interview with Henry Winter.
Does anyone have a subscription to The Times? Could you paste the interview here?
I'm interested to see what shit he's came out with now
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/article4695215.ece
I've got a Times subscription. I will post it when I'm on my laptop, lazing in bed on my IPad at the moment.
It's all from the "you've had a tough week and I'm your mate in the media" school of journalism.
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Lescott interview with Henry Winter.
Does anyone have a subscription to The Times? Could you paste the interview here?
I'm interested to see what shit he's came out with now
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/article4695215.ece
I've got a Times subscription. I will post it when I'm on my laptop, lazing in bed on my IPad at the moment.
It's all from the "you've had a tough week and I'm your mate in the media" school of journalism.
What time are you getting up? If you wouldn't mind hurrying up a bit I'd like to read the Lescott interview before I go out.
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Lescott interview with Henry Winter.
Does anyone have a subscription to The Times? Could you paste the interview here?
I'm interested to see what shit he's came out with now
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/article4695215.ece
I've got a Times subscription. I will post it when I'm on my laptop, lazing in bed on my IPad at the moment.
It's all from the "you've had a tough week and I'm your mate in the media" school of journalism.
What time are you getting up? If you wouldn't mind hurrying up a bit I'd like to read the Lescott interview before I go out.
What time you going out?
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Lescott interview with Henry Winter.
Does anyone have a subscription to The Times? Could you paste the interview here?
I'm interested to see what shit he's came out with now
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/article4695215.ece
I've got a Times subscription. I will post it when I'm on my laptop, lazing in bed on my IPad at the moment.
It's all from the "you've had a tough week and I'm your mate in the media" school of journalism.
What time are you getting up? If you wouldn't mind hurrying up a bit I'd like to read the Lescott interview before I go out.
What time you going out?
10.15, could delay the missus until 10.30 at the latest.
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You made me leave my warm and comfortable bed........just firing up the laptop
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Joleon Lescott opens his heart to Henry Winter in a searingly honest interview at the end of a tumultous week for the defender at Aston Villa
A lover of the quiet life, Joleon Lescott is having an unwelcome noisy month or two. So much has been said and written about the Aston Villa defender, who first fell out with fans during an FA Cup tie away to Wycombe Wanderers and then enraged more when a photograph of a £120,000 Mercedes was posted on his Twitter feed moments after the 6-0 thrashing by Liverpool on Sunday, that it is sometimes difficult to separate fact from fiction.
So it’s best that the 33-year-old tells the story. Sitting in a coffee shop near his home yesterday afternoon, Lescott prefaces his narrative with the words: “I’m a Villa fan, and defeats and bad performances are hard to take — it hurts.” He had offers to leave Villa last month but stayed on to fight against relegation.
“There was some genuine interest from LA Galaxy in January. But for me to jump ship . . . I don’t want that to be my legacy. I’d prefer us to go down and me be a part of that than, ‘Oh, he left in January, spent six months and felt it was not his responsibility.’ There’s the possibility of staying up. We could go from being one of the worst teams in Aston Villa’s history to one of the greatest if we stay up.”
Anyway, back to recent events. “Wycombe was a strange one. I was on the bench with Brad Guzan, talking about the game, things, and I must have smiled at some point. When Wycombe scored, our fans got upset, and banged on the back of the dug-out, shouting and swearing at us, saying: ‘You don’t care.’ I said: ‘I’m on the bench, what do you want me to do?’ It escalated from that.
“Getting on the coach afterwards was quite intense. Security said we had to walk straight through and not stop. Some of the Villa fans, not all, were shouting abuse and it’s a shame because kids were there wanting autographs. Fans are entitled to get angry but they’ve got to respect families have travelled down from Birmingham. We weren’t allowed to sign autographs because fans were being aggressive.
“I was made a scapegoat for a result I wasn’t involved in. For the next game against Crystal Palace, when my name was read out, I was booed and I was captain! Why was I booed? I didn’t play against Wycombe. If I can’t smile on the bench, then there’s a problem. The goal was taken away from me but I headed the winner against Palace. It was a subdued celebration because of the fans booing me, and we hadn’t won in a while.
“Last weekend we came up against a very good team in Liverpool. With Daniel Sturridge and [Philippe] Coutinho back in there it was going to be difficult. I remember playing with Dean Sturridge at Wolves and him telling me about his nephew Daniel, who is blessed with great feet and the ability to do things most players can’t.
“Six-nil is very embarrassing, and it’s hard to take. Our confidence is low anyway and when you go 1-0 down, it’s harder to pick yourself up. It doesn’t excuse the second-half performance, which was outrageous, one of the worst I’ve been involved in. We weren’t even out there. They had four shots in the space of 15 minutes and scored four goals.
“What happened afterwards was an honest mistake. I was driving home and got a call from my brother [Aaron, his agent and a former Bristol Rovers defender], saying: ‘What have you done? Have you just sent out a tweet?’ ‘No, I’m driving home.’ I was on my phone in the changing room, said goodbye to my family, put the phone into my pocket, got in the car, I didn’t lock my phone. It must have accidentally gone off, I don’t know how, whether you believe it or not. It’s not the first time I’ve put my phone in my pocket and accidentally dialled someone.
“I don’t own that car. I wouldn’t tweet that picture. A young player, a friend of mine said: ‘I’m thinking of getting this car, what do you think?’ ‘Yes,’ I said, ‘it’s a nice car but be careful because the insurance might be high.’ That was the only reason the picture was on my phone. Whether things have gone well or not, I’d never tweeted [after a game]. There was no comment on the tweet. Just a picture. I don’t see why people don’t believe it was a genuine mistake.
“My brother said: ‘It’s been retweeted and the fans are going off. It doesn’t look good.’ I said: ‘I’ll be home in an hour and I’ll address it then.’ By that time because I hadn’t deleted it straight away or commented straight away, everyone had blown it out of all proportion. With results and the performance it wasn’t great timing.
“I can take the criticism of on the field. I’m a grown man. I can look in the mirror and know I’ve worked hard in my career. I don’t get carried away by criticism or praise. But the reaction was intense. People had a lot to say. Pundits, critics — these people act like they’ve never made a mistake before.
“That was frustrating when people who’ve been in the industry like Stan [Collymore, the broadcaster and former Villa striker] comment. I don’t know him personally, but we’re from Birmingham way, so we have respect for each other. There was an issue with Stan in the Euros [2012]. He used to direct message me and ask me for the [England] team [line-up] before it was out. ‘I can’t do that Stan. That’s not my style.’ ‘But players have done it before.’ ‘That’s not my style, I wouldn’t do it anyway, but, no disrespect, I don’t know you.’
“A lot of older pros, [who] I have a lot of respect for, who don’t feel the need to jump on it [his mistake]. Not everyone has got a clean record. For me to accidentally tweet a picture is not the biggest crime that a footballer has ever committed. But I can understand the feeling of the fans who feel let down.”
It escalated. “Something happened on Instagram. There’s a young fan who’s ill, in with Acorns [the West Midlands hospice], that I’ve done a lot of charity work with. I follow him on Instagram. He’s in a bad way. He put a post on his Instagram saying people to lay off me. I tweeted him, saying: ‘Don’t worry about me, mate, you’ve got enough to worry about than fighting my battles, so let it go.’ Fans who follow him messaged me. We were debating the game. So I tried to answer as many questions as I could, some not very pleasant, some very negative. It’s part of the game — I deal with that.
“There was one aggressive person, who sent a few messages. He said: ‘I’m going to come down to the training ground and carve you a new scar in your forehead.’ I replied: ‘I would love you to come down, please, please try that.’ I’ve had these scars since I was five. It’s not new to me to get this abuse. My parents, my kids and my wife don’t like to hear these things. So that’s upsetting to them, and that’s when I get wound up and so I replied to that.
“I’ve then seen in the press that I’ve offered a fan down to the training ground to fight him. It wasn’t like that at all. The paper’s not posting the message he put to me about wanting to carve me a new scar on my face, so just pick and choose what you want to print then. He sent a few more posts. I said: ‘Yeah, mate, whatever you want to do, I’m at Bodymoor Heath every day training. If you feel the need to come down there, not a problem.’
“I’d like to see what would have happened. I told the club. They were aware of the situation. I’ve got a lot of friends in Birmingham, friends from school, and they get upset. My family gets upset. So I have to defuse the situation. I tell them: ‘They’re not going to come. I’ve had it before. It’s not the first time and it won’t be the last time.’ ”
Lescott gets abuse about the scars at matches. “What can I do? I can’t go and jump in the crowd. My mum stopped coming to certain fixtures with certain teams because they used to give me abuse. She couldn’t deal with it. My dad as well stopped going to certain grounds.”
Lescott was coming out of primary school, only five, when he was struck by a car and dragged down the road. “I was run over. My mum was picking me up. She saw it. We never talk about that. I’ve got kids now and I know how upset I get when they fall over. To see that happen must have been hard for her. I am lucky to be here — and I am grateful.
“When I was in the hospital, recovering, there was a boy next to me, no scars, nothing, just a bandage round his head, a little scar above his eyebrow, and he had brain damage. He was on the curb and a wing mirror hit him. I got run over, and had scars and survived, and was mentally and physically OK. I’ve got the scars to show for it. Wow I was the lucky one. What happened has definitely driven me on. I have received a lot of stick in and out of football. But I enjoy what I do.”
It is why he privately raises funds for Birmingham Children’s Hospital. “They helped me out a lot when I was younger, when I was in the Burns Unit. They were a big part of me getting me through my situation. I give them donations. I don’t do it for the publicity. I am thankful for what they did for me and if I can help out, great. I’ve not [been front-page] — not before this week! I enjoy what I do. I know I am privileged to do it.”
That’s why he’s fighting hard to keep Villa up. He likes Rémi Garde, the manager. “He’s calm. He’s lost it a couple of times. He’s trying to create a non-French-speaking environment, the reason why he hasn’t lost it as much as he wants is because he doesn’t know enough bad words in English. It [dressing-room language] is an issue but it’s not the reason why we are bottom. There’s something wrong with the whole foundations, team, players. Is it one person’s fault? No. It’s unfair that fans chant they want the chairman [owner Randy Lerner] out. We’re the ones playing. He’s very calm, a very nice man. It’s a shame.”
He is used to meeting and overcoming adversity. He was rejected by Villa after a trial as a kid. He suffered a bad cruciate injury at Wolverhampton Wanderers. “There were players who had the same operation as mine who had to retire. I got through. I’ve had to work hard. I don’t think people realise the sacrifices footballers make. They just assume we get paid a lot of money so who couldn’t do it? If it was that easy we would all be doing it.
“People are made famous in life for not doing anything. I don’t really feel famous, no. I have enough people around me, who have been around me for 20 years, I could never act famous. My wife has been there since before I started playing, it’s coming up 18 years now, and it [him being famous] wouldn’t go down well with her.”
Joleon Lescott opens his heart to Henry Winter in a searingly honest interview at the end of a tumultous week for the defender at Aston Villa
A lover of the quiet life, Joleon Lescott is having an unwelcome noisy month or two. So much has been said and written about the Aston Villa defender, who first fell out with fans during an FA Cup tie away to Wycombe Wanderers and then enraged more when a photograph of a £120,000 Mercedes was posted on his Twitter feed moments after the 6-0 thrashing by Liverpool on Sunday, that it is sometimes difficult to separate fact from fiction.
So it’s best that the 33-year-old tells the story. Sitting in a coffee shop near his home yesterday afternoon, Lescott prefaces his narrative with the words: “I’m a Villa fan, and defeats and bad performances are hard to take — it hurts.” He had offers to leave Villa last month but stayed on to fight against relegation.
“There was some genuine interest from LA Galaxy in January. But for me to jump ship . . . I don’t want that to be my legacy. I’d prefer us to go down and me be a part of that than, ‘Oh, he left in January, spent six months and felt it was not his responsibility.’ There’s the possibility of staying up. We could go from being one of the worst teams in Aston Villa’s history to one of the greatest if we stay up.”
Anyway, back to recent events. “Wycombe was a strange one. I was on the bench with Brad Guzan, talking about the game, things, and I must have smiled at some point. When Wycombe scored, our fans got upset, and banged on the back of the dug-out, shouting and swearing at us, saying: ‘You don’t care.’ I said: ‘I’m on the bench, what do you want me to do?’ It escalated from that.
“Getting on the coach afterwards was quite intense. Security said we had to walk straight through and not stop. Some of the Villa fans, not all, were shouting abuse and it’s a shame because kids were there wanting autographs. Fans are entitled to get angry but they’ve got to respect families have travelled down from Birmingham. We weren’t allowed to sign autographs because fans were being aggressive.
“I was made a scapegoat for a result I wasn’t involved in. For the next game against Crystal Palace, when my name was read out, I was booed and I was captain! Why was I booed? I didn’t play against Wycombe. If I can’t smile on the bench, then there’s a problem. The goal was taken away from me but I headed the winner against Palace. It was a subdued celebration because of the fans booing me, and we hadn’t won in a while.
“Last weekend we came up against a very good team in Liverpool. With Daniel Sturridge and [Philippe] Coutinho back in there it was going to be difficult. I remember playing with Dean Sturridge at Wolves and him telling me about his nephew Daniel, who is blessed with great feet and the ability to do things most players can’t.
“Six-nil is very embarrassing, and it’s hard to take. Our confidence is low anyway and when you go 1-0 down, it’s harder to pick yourself up. It doesn’t excuse the second-half performance, which was outrageous, one of the worst I’ve been involved in. We weren’t even out there. They had four shots in the space of 15 minutes and scored four goals.
“What happened afterwards was an honest mistake. I was driving home and got a call from my brother [Aaron, his agent and a former Bristol Rovers defender], saying: ‘What have you done? Have you just sent out a tweet?’ ‘No, I’m driving home.’ I was on my phone in the changing room, said goodbye to my family, put the phone into my pocket, got in the car, I didn’t lock my phone. It must have accidentally gone off, I don’t know how, whether you believe it or not. It’s not the first time I’ve put my phone in my pocket and accidentally dialled someone.
“I don’t own that car. I wouldn’t tweet that picture. A young player, a friend of mine said: ‘I’m thinking of getting this car, what do you think?’ ‘Yes,’ I said, ‘it’s a nice car but be careful because the insurance might be high.’ That was the only reason the picture was on my phone. Whether things have gone well or not, I’d never tweeted [after a game]. There was no comment on the tweet. Just a picture. I don’t see why people don’t believe it was a genuine mistake.
“My brother said: ‘It’s been retweeted and the fans are going off. It doesn’t look good.’ I said: ‘I’ll be home in an hour and I’ll address it then.’ By that time because I hadn’t deleted it straight away or commented straight away, everyone had blown it out of all proportion. With results and the performance it wasn’t great timing.
“I can take the criticism of on the field. I’m a grown man. I can look in the mirror and know I’ve worked hard in my career. I don’t get carried away by criticism or praise. But the reaction was intense. People had a lot to say. Pundits, critics — these people act like they’ve never made a mistake before.
“That was frustrating when people who’ve been in the industry like Stan [Collymore, the broadcaster and former Villa striker] comment. I don’t know him personally, but we’re from Birmingham way, so we have respect for each other. There was an issue with Stan in the Euros [2012]. He used to direct message me and ask me for the [England] team [line-up] before it was out. ‘I can’t do that Stan. That’s not my style.’ ‘But players have done it before.’ ‘That’s not my style, I wouldn’t do it anyway, but, no disrespect, I don’t know you.’
“A lot of older pros, [who] I have a lot of respect for, who don’t feel the need to jump on it [his mistake]. Not everyone has got a clean record. For me to accidentally tweet a picture is not the biggest crime that a footballer has ever committed. But I can understand the feeling of the fans who feel let down.”
It escalated. “Something happened on Instagram. There’s a young fan who’s ill, in with Acorns [the West Midlands hospice], that I’ve done a lot of charity work with. I follow him on Instagram. He’s in a bad way. He put a post on his Instagram saying people to lay off me. I tweeted him, saying: ‘Don’t worry about me, mate, you’ve got enough to worry about than fighting my battles, so let it go.’ Fans who follow him messaged me. We were debating the game. So I tried to answer as many questions as I could, some not very pleasant, some very negative. It’s part of the game — I deal with that.
“There was one aggressive person, who sent a few messages. He said: ‘I’m going to come down to the training ground and carve you a new scar in your forehead.’ I replied: ‘I would love you to come down, please, please try that.’ I’ve had these scars since I was five. It’s not new to me to get this abuse. My parents, my kids and my wife don’t like to hear these things. So that’s upsetting to them, and that’s when I get wound up and so I replied to that.
“I’ve then seen in the press that I’ve offered a fan down to the training ground to fight him. It wasn’t like that at all. The paper’s not posting the message he put to me about wanting to carve me a new scar on my face, so just pick and choose what you want to print then. He sent a few more posts. I said: ‘Yeah, mate, whatever you want to do, I’m at Bodymoor Heath every day training. If you feel the need to come down there, not a problem.’
“I’d like to see what would have happened. I told the club. They were aware of the situation. I’ve got a lot of friends in Birmingham, friends from school, and they get upset. My family gets upset. So I have to defuse the situation. I tell them: ‘They’re not going to come. I’ve had it before. It’s not the first time and it won’t be the last time.’ ”
Lescott gets abuse about the scars at matches. “What can I do? I can’t go and jump in the crowd. My mum stopped coming to certain fixtures with certain teams because they used to give me abuse. She couldn’t deal with it. My dad as well stopped going to certain grounds.”
Lescott was coming out of primary school, only five, when he was struck by a car and dragged down the road. “I was run over. My mum was picking me up. She saw it. We never talk about that. I’ve got kids now and I know how upset I get when they fall over. To see that happen must have been hard for her. I am lucky to be here — and I am grateful.
“When I was in the hospital, recovering, there was a boy next to me, no scars, nothing, just a bandage round his head, a little scar above his eyebrow, and he had brain damage. He was on the curb and a wing mirror hit him. I got run over, and had scars and survived, and was mentally and physically OK. I’ve got the scars to show for it. Wow I was the lucky one. What happened has definitely driven me on. I have received a lot of stick in and out of football. But I enjoy what I do.”
It is why he privately raises funds for Birmingham Children’s Hospital. “They helped me out a lot when I was younger, when I was in the Burns Unit. They were a big part of me getting me through my situation. I give them donations. I don’t do it for the publicity. I am thankful for what they did for me and if I can help out, great. I’ve not [been front-page] — not before this week! I enjoy what I do. I know I am privileged to do it.”
That’s why he’s fighting hard to keep Villa up. He likes Rémi Garde, the manager. “He’s calm. He’s lost it a couple of times. He’s trying to create a non-French-speaking environment, the reason why he hasn’t lost it as much as he wants is because he doesn’t know enough bad words in English. It [dressing-room language] is an issue but it’s not the reason why we are bottom. There’s something wrong with the whole foundations, team, players. Is it one person’s fault? No. It’s unfair that fans chant they want the chairman [owner Randy Lerner] out. We’re the ones playing. He’s very calm, a very nice man. It’s a shame.”
He is used to meeting and overcoming adversity. He was rejected by Villa after a trial as a kid. He suffered a bad cruciate injury at Wolverhampton Wanderers. “There were players who had the same operation as mine who had to retire. I got through. I’ve had to work hard. I don’t think people realise the sacrifices footballers make. They just assume we get paid a lot of money so who couldn’t do it? If it was that easy we would all be doing it.
“People are made famous in life for not doing anything. I don’t really feel famous, no. I have enough people around me, who have been around me for 20 years, I could never act famous. My wife has been there since before I started playing, it’s coming up 18 years now, and it [him being famous] wouldn’t go down well with her.”
He was with his wife flying to New York, along with Lee Naylor, then a Celtic player, when there was an incident on the plane. “That was surreal,’’ he recalls. “It was not long after 9/11. All of a sudden, the pilot comes on and says: ‘I’ve accidentally pressed the hijack button and can’t land’. Wow. A minute or so later, fighter planes are outside and guiding us down to Nova Scotia where Swat teams came on running up and down the aisle, machine guns, we all had to sit there with hands up and then they said all clear. It was only later that I thought, ‘what if someone was really on the plane?’ ’’
It’s getting late in the afternoon, and Lescott gets up to join his family. What will he do if Villa are relegated? “I’d stay. I’m not going to leave.”
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He must have a really shit phone!
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Thanks. You can go back to bed now if you like.
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He must have a really shit phone!
Never underestimate a footballer's stupidity.
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Article not too bad in fairness.
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Nice one mate! Sleep in as long as you want tomorrow.
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He does a lot of talking but doesn't really say a lot.
I get the feeling he doesn't like Gardes management style.
I still don't buy the whole Twitter thing.
He should move on and talk about how the team are going to bust a gut to win every game.
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As suspected the commented which lead to him calling out the fan to BMH was highly scummy.
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How does he manage to get a feel good article like this on the back of what he did last week? Did his agent/ brother write it himself? Fuck off Lescott
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How does he manage to get a feel good article like this on the back of what he did last week? Did his agent/ brother write it himself? Fuck off Lescott
They're all pissing into the same pot, players, agents, the majority of the media. When someone speaks out, such as Mathew Syed (sic) did against Chelsea on SSN a while ago, it's as rare as rocking horse shit. That's why Lambert was being treated as some sort of fuckin' sage on 5Live last night.
It's a world built on an endless foundation of bullshit where vested interest comes above anything else, particularly the truth.
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How does he manage to get a feel good article like this on the back of what he did last week? Did his agent/ brother write it himself? Fuck off Lescott
They're all pissing into the same pot, players, agents, the majority of the media. When someone speaks out, such as Mathew Syed (sic) did against Chelsea on SSN a while ago, it's as rare as rocking horse shit. That's why Lambert was being treated as some sort of fuckin' sage on 5Live last night.
It's a world built on an endless foundation of bullshit where vested interest comes above anything else, particularly the truth.
Well said, Nev. And the fans should just comply, behave and keep spending their money. Yet they're the only ones actually paying to watch it.
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We could go from being one of the worst teams in Aston Villa’s history to one of the greatest if we stay up
He can't be much of a Villa fan if he thinks that's the case. I'm looking back misty-eyed at O'Dreary's 2005-6 team, we're that fucking bad.
Even if this mob somehow pulled off the miracle I'd still think they're a shower of talentless arseholes.
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As suspected the commented which lead to him calling out the fan to BMH was highly scummy.
And that's where the club if they had any kind of PR would come out in defence of the player. No wonder the players don't give a shit when the club doesn't have their back. The whole thing works in both directions. The "fan" tweet is nasty and deplorable.
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See, even that is no defence.
Sadcase says something on the internet to get attention So what? Just look at some of the appalling comments left after fairly innocuous videos on youtube.
Sascase says something sad on the internet isn't news. Premiership footballer offering sadcase the chance to meet is news (or were they going to settle their differences with a spirited debate over a cup of coffee?)
It's one thing if someone says something like that to you face to face when you are out with your family and is genuinely threatening, quite another if you are offering an oddball out in front of an internet audience of however many thousands. If Lescott is too thick to see the difference he's even more of a plank than I thought.
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The whole thing is sad. Media perpetuated bollocks aimed at further ridiculing of 'bottom club Aston Villa'. I bet those 'spoof twitter posts' were probably believed by a few people too and probably helped stoke the flames. The problem with social media is the only people that will be heard are the assholes who can be asked to write something on the first place, with nothing better to do. Like me now.
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I will cut you new scars in your head? This was said by a Villa fan? Utterly disgraceful if true.
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Lescott or Clark for CB at Stoke? Lescott for me.
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Lescott.
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Speaking as someone who occasionally dials up friends and family via my phone in my back pocket and have also posted on the internet using the arse cheek method, I tend to believe him.
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I will say that more than once i've received pocket phone calls. None from sickbeggar though.
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I will say that more than once i've received pocket phone calls. None from sickbeggar though.
No, just pictures of his cock.
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We've all done the accidentally phoning somebody but it's the first time I've heard of a phone that can upload a photo to Twitter and then post it.
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I will say that more than once i've received pocket phone calls. None from sickbeggar though.
No, just pictures of his cock.
Have you been hacking my phone again?
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There's no doubt at all in my mind that he'll be leaving the club in the summer. He claims to have not wanted to leave a sinking ship in January, but at soon as the ship is sunk he'll be off. I don't blame him mind you if he has the choice of B6 and Championship football and MLS with LA Galaxy (as was rumoured)
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So Lescott is the victim in all of this? We are clearly totally heartless, given his various struggles in life, to think he is capable of nothing but selfless sacrafice in the cause of AVFC.
Henry your work is done.
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There's no doubt at all in my mind that he'll be leaving the club in the summer. He claims to have not wanted to leave a sinking ship in January, but at soon as the ship is sunk he'll be off. I don't blame him mind you if he has the choice of B6 and Championship football and MLS with LA Galaxy (as was rumoured)
But we'll probably tell him he can leave just so we can remove him from the wage bill. Reducing our wage bill has been the priority since 2010 and the cause of our horrible decline.
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He's this relegation's Andy Gray, the willingness is there but the body's gone. He's 33 and should never have been bought as anymore than back-up, if that. He's the least of our problems really
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There's no doubt at all in my mind that he'll be leaving the club in the summer. He claims to have not wanted to leave a sinking ship in January, but at soon as the ship is sunk he'll be off. I don't blame him mind you if he has the choice of B6 and Championship football and MLS with LA Galaxy (as was rumoured)
But we'll probably tell him he can leave just so we can remove him from the wage bill. Reducing our wage bill has been the priority since 2010 and the cause of our horrible decline.
If we can pick up a million and lose his wages at Championship level it's not a bad thing. Reducing the wage bill that was inflated beyond reason has been a priority since it got out of control. It's not like we are the lowest spenders is it? And I really don't want to get into this all over again on the bloody Joleon Lescott thread.
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There's no doubt at all in my mind that he'll be leaving the club in the summer. He claims to have not wanted to leave a sinking ship in January, but at soon as the ship is sunk he'll be off. I don't blame him mind you if he has the choice of B6 and Championship football and MLS with LA Galaxy (as was rumoured)
But we'll probably tell him he can leave just so we can remove him from the wage bill. Reducing our wage bill has been the priority since 2010 and the cause of our horrible decline.
If we can pick up a million and lose his wages at Championship level it's not a bad thing. Reducing the wage bill that was inflated beyond reason has been a priority since it got out of control. It's not like we are the lowest spenders is it? And I really don't want to get into this all over again on the bloody Joleon Lescott thread.
Great. I'm sure we've now reached the wage bill Randy finds acceptable after 6 years of cost cutting, and the Championship awaits.
Talk about a false economy!
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Honest to God, talk about a broken record.
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Honest to God, talk about a broken record.
Same could be said about you and your tiresome "it ain't all that bad" routine.
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Honest to God, talk about a broken record.
It's 'Now that's what I Call Austerity 678' I believe.
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Lescott or Clark for CB at Stoke? Lescott for me.
Clark for me, Okore/Clark for rest of season.
Lescott wont be at the club next season so no point in playing him imo
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Lescott or Clark for CB at Stoke? Lescott for me.
Clark for me, Okore/Clark for rest of season.
Lescott wont be at the club next season so no point in playing him imo
Clark is like a bomb scare. No thanks, I'd rather stick with Lescott.
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Lescott has been doing ok recently, it wasn't only him that was awful last Sunday
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Honest to God, talk about a broken record.
Same could be said about you and your tiresome "it ain't all that bad" routine.
Where have I said that exactly? Specific to the recent discussion on this thread where have I said things aren't bad? You can't seem to go a few posts without repeating how Lerner has slashed the wage bill. Do you mutter it under your breath as you brush your teeth in the morning or pour milk over your cornflakes?
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Any chance you two can give it a sodding rest for a few days. Or at least take it to PM.
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Lescott has been doing ok recently, it wasn't only him that was awful last Sunday
Yeah, that's why I'd stick with him. He's far better than the nightmare that is Clark.
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Lescott has been doing ok recently, it wasn't only him that was awful last Sunday
Yeah, that's why I'd stick with him. He's far better than the nightmare that is Clark.
Also, regardless of the fact that he isn't the player he was and that he seems to be a Grade A twat, he was once a very good player and is hopefully teaching Okore a thing or two which will help him in seasons to come.
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Okore will be off in the summer too, so not sure his learning curve is our number 1 concern either.
However, Lescott and Okore should play. In fact I would be tempted to go to a back 3 for a few weeks, we are so narrow anyway it would at least let the full backs get forward more, and Richards would not have to run playing the right side of the 3.
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Okore will be off in the summer too, so not sure his learning curve is our number 1 concern either.
I'm not sure it should be our number 1 concern but a factor. If he stays, he will have learned something. If he goes, he will have become a better player and in theory will rate a higher fee.
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I think we have to play our best side until we are gone and Lescott would be in my team. Was pist off when heard about him threatening a "fan" until it was in response to giving him another scar. That is sick.
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There's no doubt at all in my mind that he'll be leaving the club in the summer. He claims to have not wanted to leave a sinking ship in January, but at soon as the ship is sunk he'll be off. I don't blame him mind you if he has the choice of B6 and Championship football and MLS with LA Galaxy (as was rumoured)
But we'll probably tell him he can leave just so we can remove him from the wage bill. Reducing our wage bill has been the priority since 2010 and the cause of our horrible decline.
If we can pick up a million and lose his wages at Championship level it's not a bad thing. Reducing the wage bill that was inflated beyond reason has been a priority since it got out of control. It's not like we are the lowest spenders is it? And I really don't want to get into this all over again on the bloody Joleon Lescott thread.
Great. I'm sure we've now reached the wage bill Randy finds acceptable after 6 years of cost cutting, and the Championship awaits.
Talk about a false economy!
The problem has always been that at no point, including under the blessed saint Martin of Kilrea, have we actually got value for money out of what we have spent, always overpaying by a level for what we actually got.
Based on the wages data accessible on various sites:
MON. Top 4 budget. Highest finish 6th three times.
Houllier. Still at top 6 budget. Finished mid table.
McLeish. Upper mid table budget. Bottom 6 finish.
Lambert. Mid table budget. Bottom 6 finishes.
Sherwood/Garde Lower mid table budget Finishing bottom.
At no point have we actually punched our weight. We've been badly managed from day 1, and there I will agree with you that there's only one person to blame, but not throwing enough money at it isn't the root cause.
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I would only play players that give a shit. Garde will know who they are, I have no idea if that includes Lescott.
The rest can get lost as soon as possible.
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Fair points made Villa in Denmark.
Where does that stem from though do you think? Houllier didn't have long to change things, wasn't sure of him after the Liverpool comments but hey. Didn't want McLeish, did want Lambert and was quite positive about Sherwood and Garde. The budgets they are working within were from the first manager who seemed to have the total trust of the owner
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If I'd got to guess, I'd say it's because the whole organisation has been lackadaisical from day 1. The whole thing has been run as another philanthropic venture and no drive for excellence.
Was there ever any real pressure on O'Neill other than what he put on himself? The first time there was any expectation to achieve par with his squad he bailed.
I think Houllier had the same professional self drive, it was just a few years too late and like Garde up against it with a chunk of the squad not wanting to know and another manager's players, albeit players reasonably well suited to the style he wanted to play. That ridiculous run with injuries plus his attempt to soft soap Young into staying by indulging his wish to play as a no 10 "as Lambert likes to call them" pulled us down. People rightly point to us only being safe with 2 games left, but think of the points dropped when we playing teams with an average age of about 12, the most obvious being the 2-2 against Man Utd.
I think Garde has that determination and professionalism as well and will show it given the chance.
McLeish was undone by his own brand of footballing nihilism. He could have spent 50p and achieved the same.
Lambert just got overwhelmed. I'm convinced he tried to be too clever with the cut backs. Instead of all of the low cost gambles, if he'd gone out and signed 2 or 3 more of the Vlaar / Benteke quality, he could have saved even more, because he'd have had a decent environment to bring more academy players through.
Instead we've probably limited the careers of Clark, Baker and Weimann from our own ranks, plus Bennett and Helenius because of the games they've been involved in (or not in Helenius' case, we were just setting him up for clinical depression.)
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Follow up random thought.
What if Doug had dialled Houllier's number back in 2006 instead of O'Neill's?
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We would have finished top 4. Although even then Houllier bought badly and was basically blessed with the best years of Owen and Gerard at Liverpool.
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Follow up random thought.
What if Doug had dialled Houllier's number back in 2006 instead of O'Neill's?
Was that Dougs call though?
I loved the appointment of MON but your comment if it had been Houllier is a good shout. He could have started things with his own theories and a nice budget
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Follow up random thought.
What if Doug had dialled Houllier's number back in 2006 instead of O'Neill's?
Was that Dougs call though?
I loved the appointment of MON but your comment if it had been Houllier is a good shout. He could have started things with his own theories and a nice budget
I thought perceived wisdom was that Doug recruited MON and Lerner signed off on the deal.
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Follow up random thought.
What if Doug had dialled Houllier's number back in 2006 instead of O'Neill's?
Was that Dougs call though?
I loved the appointment of MON but your comment if it had been Houllier is a good shout. He could have started things with his own theories and a nice budget
I thought perceived wisdom was that Doug recruited MON and Lerner signed off on the deal.
Doug asked him to join. He agreed as the Lerner deal was all but final.
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Follow up random thought.
What if Doug had dialled Houllier's number back in 2006 instead of O'Neill's?
Was that Dougs call though?
I loved the appointment of MON but your comment if it had been Houllier is a good shout. He could have started things with his own theories and a nice budget
I thought perceived wisdom was that Doug recruited MON and Lerner signed off on the deal.
Doug asked him to join. He agreed as the Lerner deal was all but final.
As you know I am not a Doug lover and do find it hard to believe Lerner would have had no influence on that appointment. If I am wrong, willingly hold my hands up
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As you know I am not a Doug lover and do find it hard to believe Lerner would have had no influence on that appointment. If I am wrong, willingly hold my hands up
It was pretty obvious that Lerner was arriving, there was money to spend and O'Neill was the popular choice. I'm sure Doug was liaising closely with Randy at this point and they agreed on who should get the job.
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Put it another way, think of how MON spends money, then of all the stuff coming out that summer about how the club was so skint players were having to pay for stuff at BH, and then think if there is any way he'd have joined if Doug was staying. I'd say there was zero chance he'd have joined unless it was all but guaranteed Lerner was taking over and there was a very big pot of cash to spend.
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As you know I am not a Doug lover and do find it hard to believe Lerner would have had no influence on that appointment. If I am wrong, willingly hold my hands up
It was pretty obvious that Lerner was arriving, there was money to spend and O'Neill was the popular choice. I'm sure Doug was liaising closely with Randy at this point and they agreed on who should get the job.
That is all I was saying
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As you know I am not a Doug lover and do find it hard to believe Lerner would have had no influence on that appointment. If I am wrong, willingly hold my hands up
It was pretty obvious that Lerner was arriving, there was money to spend and O'Neill was the popular choice. I'm sure Doug was liaising closely with Randy at this point and they agreed on who should get the job.
That is all I was saying
There's a story I was told that after the opening game at the Emirates, when Doug was still in charge, he asked O'Neill why Martin Laursen had come on in stoppage time.
"To waste a bit of time and put another body at the back," said the manager.
"WHAT!!! Don't you realise he'll get £5,000 appearance money now?" was the reply.
O'Neill apparently then silently beseeched the Gods to hurry the sale up.
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Oh no it will only be a matter of time before someone posts the cumulative cost if MONs late substitutions and correlates the cost to our subsequent years of decline.
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Can't see this anywhere else but the following quote is being attributed on twitter to our wonderful, former international, committed centre half.
"It's a relief to finally be relegated, it's been looming over us for weeks. The fans negativity hasn't helped this season. It's been a major factor. But, we'll have a good drink tonight then have a go at the last few games".
Is this genuine? Because if so, and frankly even if not:
Not half as big a relief as the day when you and your lazy, waste of space mates Gabby, N'Zogbia and Richards leave the club, Joleon. 'The fans negativity didn't help'? Which part were we meant to be positive about? The three wins all season? You messing around laughing and spitting gum while your team was losing? Your 'accidental' tweets of your new car to show how little you cared about your abject failure to be even vaguely competent at your job? Celebratory trips to Dubai because you've had such a tiring season? The club captain being so unfit in April he has to have a special fitness programme designed? The absolute epitome of why footballers today are universally despised. Just sod off Lescott and take most of our 'senior pros' with you. Twat.
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What a ******.
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To be fair, I'm not sure yet whether he did actually say it or it's a mickey take. He definitely made the 'weight of our shoulders' comment though.
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Can't see this anywhere else but the following quote is being attributed on twitter to our wonderful, former international, committed centre half.
"It's a relief to finally be relegated, it's been looming over us for weeks. The fans negativity hasn't helped this season. It's been a major factor. But, we'll have a good drink tonight then have a go at the last few games".
Is this genuine? Because if so, and frankly even if not:
Not half as big a relief as the day when you and your lazy, waste of space mates Gabby, N'Zogbia and Richards leave the club, Joleon. 'The fans negativity didn't help'? Which part were we meant to be positive about? The three wins all season? You messing around laughing and spitting gum while your team was losing? Your 'accidental' tweets of your new car to show how little you cared about your abject failure to be even vaguely competent at your job? Celebratory trips to Dubai because you've had such a tiring season? The club captain being so unfit in April he has to have a special fitness programme designed? The absolute epitome of why footballers today are universally despised. Just sod off Lescott and take most of our 'senior pros' with you. Twat.
Couldn't see it on his "official" account.
It better not be true. That said I'd not be surprised at all. I suspect Richards will have plenty to say in the coming weeks too.
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Can't see this anywhere else but the following quote is being attributed on twitter to our wonderful, former international, committed centre half.
"It's a relief to finally be relegated, it's been looming over us for weeks. The fans negativity hasn't helped this season. It's been a major factor. But, we'll have a good drink tonight then have a go at the last few games".
Is this genuine? Because if so, and frankly even if not:
Not half as big a relief as the day when you and your lazy, waste of space mates Gabby, N'Zogbia and Richards leave the club, Joleon. 'The fans negativity didn't help'? Which part were we meant to be positive about? The three wins all season? You messing around laughing and spitting gum while your team was losing? Your 'accidental' tweets of your new car to show how little you cared about your abject failure to be even vaguely competent at your job? Celebratory trips to Dubai because you've had such a tiring season? The club captain being so unfit in April he has to have a special fitness programme designed? The absolute epitome of why footballers today are universally despised. Just sod off Lescott and take most of our 'senior pros' with you. Twat.
Couldn't see it on his "official" account.
It better not be true. That said I'd not be surprised at all. I suspect Richards will have plenty to say in the coming weeks too.
I don't think it was a tweet, it was an interview.
He'll probably just claim his mouth was in his pocket and it accidentally went off anyway.
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It's a wind up surely. His post match interview wasn't much better mind
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It's a wind up, move along nothing to see here. His sky interview with everything in context is fair enough.
Still crap though isn't he.
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Do you know what really irritated me about his interview? It was his constant reference to criticism being 'part and part' of football. It's fucking part and parcel. Petty I know, but it just grated on me.
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He can fuck right off. Never should he play again for us.
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Yeah it's a wind up
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Yeah it's a wind up
The quote or Lescott being so shit?
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One thing I will say is, and this is the smallest defence, at least he spoke. Where the fuck was our captain?
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One thing I will say is, and this is the smallest defence, at least he spoke. Where the fuck was our captain?
He was captain today.
Our club captain was probably in a burger bar.
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One thing I will say is, and this is the smallest defence, at least he spoke. Where the fuck was our captain?
Our club captain was probably in a burger bar.
Not likely, he wouldn't fit.
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Regardless of whether this latest one is him or not, he is the first one out of the door for me. He hasn't got it anymore and his attitude is cancerous. Problem is going to be finding someone to buy him and Bacuna, Nzogbia, Veretout, Cissokho etc.
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Zog leaves on a free in the summer.
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Regardless of whether this latest one is him or not, he is the first one out of the door for me. He hasn't got it anymore and his attitude is cancerous. Problem is going to be finding someone to buy him and Bacuna, Nzogbia, Veretout, Cissokho etc.
I'd pay someone to take Richards and Agbonlahor off our hands before I worried about that lot.
For what it's worth I think Veretout and Cissokho wil be here next season and do OK.
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Regardless of whether this latest one is him or not, he is the first one out of the door for me. He hasn't got it anymore and his attitude is cancerous. Problem is going to be finding someone to buy him and Bacuna, Nzogbia, Veretout, Cissokho etc.
I'd pay someone to take Richards and Agbonlahor off our hands before I worried about that lot.
For what it's worth I think Veretout and Cissokho wil be here next season and do OK.
Apparently Cissokho's agent has been chatting to Trabzonspor
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Veretout has disappeared since Garde left. Fuck knows where he is or quite why Black thinks Richardson and Bacuna are better players!
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Regardless of whether this latest one is him or not, he is the first one out of the door for me. He hasn't got it anymore and his attitude is cancerous. Problem is going to be finding someone to buy him and Bacuna, Nzogbia, Veretout, Cissokho etc.
I'd pay someone to take Richards and Agbonlahor off our hands before I worried about that lot.
For what it's worth I think Veretout and Cissokho wil be here next season and do OK.
Apparently Cissokho's agent has been chatting to Trabzonspor
Nothing like having ambition, is there? Mind you, I heard they beat a big club once upon a time.
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The Lord has now added his thoughts
Lesscott came to Villa for money nothing more, he got what he wanted and can laugh it off , You are a slime bag son . Ur a disgrace !
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The Lord has now added his thoughts
Lesscott came to Villa for money nothing more, he got what he wanted and can laugh it off , You are a slime bag son . Ur a disgrace !
Where is this?
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The Lord has now added his thoughts
Lesscott came to Villa for money nothing more, he got what he wanted and can laugh it off , You are a slime bag son . Ur a disgrace !
Where is this?
He tweeted it a short time ago
Edit: this too
Lescotts hit Aston Villa twice now without thinking . Give the fans a chance to at lease understand what's happened to their Club # Div !
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God has laid into him on twitter. Said he came for the money and is a slime bag and disgrace.
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God has laid into him on twitter. Said he came for the money and is a slime bag and disgrace.
god has never spoken a truer word
lescott was the epitomy of a lazy signing
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Praise the Lord, means so much more when it comes from a man who never gave less than 100% to the cause. Lescott and co not fit to lace his boots, bet he wont give a shitty reply to him!
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The Lord has now added his thoughts
Lesscott came to Villa for money nothing more, he got what he wanted and can laugh it off , You are a slime bag son . Ur a disgrace !
Where is this?
He tweeted it a short time ago
Edit: this too
Lescotts hit Aston Villa twice now without thinking . Give the fans a chance to at lease understand what's happened to their Club # Div !
I couldn't see the tweet when I checked. Crickey! That's as critical and arguably as personal as it can get.
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God has laid into him on twitter. Said he came for the money and is a slime bag and disgrace.
god has never spoken a truer word
lescott was the epitomy of a lazy signing
What's worse is we paid albion £2m to take him. Great business by pulis. He probably gets appearance money every time he turns out as well.
C4at understand why Richards has been bombed but black persists with the rest of the charlatans. The selection of defenders is astounding when you watch back highlights from games. Hutton is another one: 27 games without a win!
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Gods latest
Paul McGrath @Paulmcgrath5 7m7 minutes ago
Lescott shout stop this spat with Stan , il step in for Stan !
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I'd love to see God v Lescott in the ring.
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I'd love to see God v Lescott in the ring.
Winner gets the car.
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I'm sure I read years ago that Lescott grew up admiring McGrath at the Villa, so those barbs will probably carry a bit more sting than a bluffer like Collywobbles accusing you of lack of effort.
To be honest, I don't think it is a case of Lescott not trying, I just think his legs have gone.
Even at his best, he wasn't a centre half who could read the game exceptionally well. But he had a turn of pace to get him out of trouble. He doesn't have that now.
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If I never see Lescott in a Villa shirt again, I will be a happy man. A total, utter, and complete bell end with an ego to go with it.
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He can't get picked again this season, surely? We wouldn't be so fucking stubborn and stupid, or have totally missed the mood of the public to pick him again, not us...
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I hope him, Richards, Agbonlahor, N'Zogbia and Bacuna play in every game they are available for and get mocked and abused for every single minute they are on the pitch. They deserve nothing less.
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He can't get picked again this season, surely? We wouldn't be so fucking stubborn and stupid, or have totally missed the mood of the public to pick him again, not us...
I'd say that about quite a few of them, yet they still get picked.
Makes Black's post match comments about trying to reconnect with the fans even more bizarre. If you want to do that, stop playing the players we hate. The booing is a good clue.
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Lescotts football career is finished in my opinion. Not that the fat ****** needs any more fucking money anyway. Disgusting money grabbing fuck.
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Lescotts football career is finished in my opinion. Not that the fat c*** needs any more fucking money anyway. Disgusting money grabbing fuck.
He'll have a couple of years in the MLS or China to top up the pension pot. I don't think anyone can doubt that he was a decent player in his day - he's got the caps and medals to prove it, but his day had long gone when he rocked up here though. Also probably fortunate that he played alongside leaders, as he doesn't seem to be one himself.
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just fuck the turd surfer off
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I hope him, Richards, Agbonlahor, N'Zogbia and Bacuna play in every game they are available for and get mocked and abused for every single minute they are on the pitch. They deserve nothing less.
I was talking with N'Zogbia on twitter last night into the early hours. Apparently we would be fine if he had played 10 games. I mentioned he had talent but effort was also needed and he made a nonchalant comment. I suggested Leicester were role models so he said I should support them. Amazing
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Modern day footballers, who think money demands respect.
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I hope him, Richards, Agbonlahor, N'Zogbia and Bacuna play in every game they are available for and get mocked and abused for every single minute they are on the pitch. They deserve nothing less.
Black should stick them all on the bench – with some of the kids playing – and make them warm up in front of the Holte for 90 minutes.
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Lescott was the Baggies player of the year but Pullis got him out.I wonder why?
I think we have found out.
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Lescott was the Baggies player of the year but Pullis got him out.I wonder why?
I think we have found out.
I think his legs have gone. Pullis realised that and got rid. I think he's trying but he's too slow now.
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Fight fight fight
https://amp.twimg.com/v/78a82f7c-105d-4808-b6c9-9a0e1eaade50
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Fight fight fight
https://amp.twimg.com/v/78a82f7c-105d-4808-b6c9-9a0e1eaade50
oh dear, bit of a toe curler that
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Fight fight fight
https://amp.twimg.com/v/78a82f7c-105d-4808-b6c9-9a0e1eaade50
I can't really see Joleon quaking in his boots there...
That said if Joleon did start quaking the strain would be too much for his rickety old legs. They'd crumble to fucking dust.
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Fight fight fight
https://amp.twimg.com/v/78a82f7c-105d-4808-b6c9-9a0e1eaade50
oh dear, bit of a toe curler that
Careful what you say. He's been going down the gym you know.
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Fight fight fight
https://amp.twimg.com/v/78a82f7c-105d-4808-b6c9-9a0e1eaade50
He should be on to his landlord if it's raining inside
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Remember the time before Facebook when people could be complete idiots and everyone else was entirely ignorant of the fact?
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Fight fight fight
https://amp.twimg.com/v/78a82f7c-105d-4808-b6c9-9a0e1eaade50
oh dear, bit of a toe curler that
Careful what you say. He's been going down the gym you know.
3 raw eggs for breakfast? I bet he's got a lovely glossy coat.
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Yeah it's lovely , he wears it indoors too
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I'm sure I read years ago that Lescott grew up admiring McGrath at the Villa, so those barbs will probably carry a bit more sting than a bluffer like Collywobbles accusing you of lack of effort.
To be honest, I don't think it is a case of Lescott not trying, I just think his legs have gone.
Even at his best, he wasn't a centre half who could read the game exceptionally well. But he had a turn of pace to get him out of trouble. He doesn't have that now.
Whether his legs have gone or not ... doesnt mean he has to be a massive bell end about it. Retire with grace or find your level ... that said he probably tried that joining us.
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Sorry that was bloody brilliant.
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Sorry that was bloody brilliant.
I know, I don't think everyone took it as the joke it was meant to be, I thought it was hilarious.
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Sorry that was bloody brilliant.
I know, I don't think everyone took it as the joke it was meant to be, I thought it was hilarious.
Yeah I liked it, and it is always good to put a name to a face.
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Sorry that was bloody brilliant.
I know, I don't think everyone took it as the joke it was meant to be, I thought it was hilarious.
He's my mate, he's funny as fuck, and he follows the Villa everywhere.
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He sounds like the mad brother in peaky blinders
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Fight fight fight
https://amp.twimg.com/v/78a82f7c-105d-4808-b6c9-9a0e1eaade50
oh dear, bit of a toe curler that
I know Lescott is a tool, but a regular bloke publicly calling a professional athlete out for a fight is fucking embarrassing. And professional athletes are just physically strong, especially at the elite level.
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The Internet has a lot to answer for.
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Fight fight fight
https://amp.twimg.com/v/78a82f7c-105d-4808-b6c9-9a0e1eaade50
oh dear, bit of a toe curler that
I know Lescott is a tool, but a regular bloke publicly calling a professional athlete out for a fight is fucking embarrassing. And professional athletes are just physically strong, especially at the elite level.
i know who I would have my money on
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Fight fight fight
https://amp.twimg.com/v/78a82f7c-105d-4808-b6c9-9a0e1eaade50
oh dear, bit of a toe curler that
I know Lescott is a tool, but a regular bloke publicly calling a professional athlete out for a fight is fucking embarrassing. And professional athletes are just physically strong, especially at the elite level.
It's a joke.
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I've watched the video the other day I thought it was hilarious. People need to not be so serious
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It was brilliant, wish I could squat like him, would help a great deal when caught short out on the hills... :)
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Ha!
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If he were a horse he'd have been taken round the back of the North Stand and put out of his misery.
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Just turn your phone off Joleon. No accidental twattering please tonight
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I'm trying to think of a Villa player I've hated as much as him - there are a few I hate more when they left (Snake Delph and Rat-face Downing, you know who you are!) but I can't recall a Villa player I've hated this much whilst he's still pulling on the claret and blue. Alpay runs him close but I'm not sure even he was this bad.
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I don't hate Lescott.
I just wish we had signed the Lescott of a few years ago -ideally when he was leaving Wolves.
This 2016 version ain't much cop. His legs have gone, but if we defended better as a unit, it wouldn't be so apparent.
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I could understand his legs going, but that doesn't explain his horrendous positional play, tendency to switch off on a regular basis, failure to win any tackle and the fact that any striker knows they can take him on and outmuscle him to come out the other side clean through.
Oh, and the fact he quite clearly doesn't give a fuck about the fans.
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He's no Paul McGrath, that's for sure. Even after a few, and with dodgy knees and no training....he still out-thought his opponents. Lescott is so slow his thinking hasn't caught up by the time the guy is past him.
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I don't hate Lescott.
I just wish we had signed the Lescott of a few years ago -ideally when he was leaving Wolves.
This 2016 version ain't much cop. His legs have gone, but if we defended better as a unit, it wouldn't be so apparent.
Agreed. I can understand him not not giving a fuck about the fans after all the abuse he's taken. He still tries his best but his best is no longer good enough especially when we play a high line. As some wit said today, it's like he's running though custard. I've never understood why footballers think they need to be on social media apart from keeping in contract with their former teammates.
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What's your legs got to.do with being yards off your man? Him and Richards are abysmal, with cunty attitudes to go with it.
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What's your legs got to.do with being yards off your man? Him and Richards are abysmal, with cunty attitudes to go with it.
Can't argue with that. Paid a fortune and people understand him not giving a fuck?! The guys taking us for chumps the piece of shit.
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His defending for the first was criminal. Long will never score an easier headed goal.
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His defending for the first was criminal. Long will never score an easier headed goal.
What, you mean on that clearly offside goal. Long was stood a yard offside how the lino missed it is beyond me.
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Should probably never sign a centre-half that Pulis wants rid of. Especially one with his pedigree.
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He's no Paul McGrath, that's for sure. Even after a few, and with dodgy knees and no training....he still out-thought his opponents. Lescott is so slow his thinking hasn't caught up by the time the guy is past him.
I don't like this post.
But to put the Lords name in with this pile of do do, is blasphemy of the highest order.
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Watching the goals, the appalling positional play of his fellow defenders didn't help Lescott at all. And the midfield have given up pretending to protect the defence.
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I'll tell what else didn't help Lescott. Lescott not playing to-the-whistle, as is drummed into all footballers, on the first goal. The prick gave up.
Lescott's lack of pace on the second. Admittedly his centre-half partner Richards not being arsed to sprint back ultimately cost us the goal, but the lack off pace allowed, together with Bacuna's back pass allowed the situation to develop.
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I was going to say that. For the first goal at least Richards position meant Lescott was pulled closer to him than he'd have probably liked to close the gap and stop any runs on there. You have to say it was a beautiful cross from the ex Villa left back. As for the second it showed up his loss of pace. BUT there is an argument to be made, not a very convincing one at the moment maybe, that he could be the Steve Sime centre half I was calling for for next season.
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I liked Steve Sims and it will take a lot to keep me away from Villa games next season but Joleon Lescott as a permanent fixture in the team would do it.
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I liked Steve Sims and it will take a lot to keep me away from Villa games next season but Joleon Lescott as a permanent fixture in the team would do it.
After the abuse he got yesterday I can't see Lescott having any sort of future at Villa Park .
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Steve Sims wasn't great but he was exactly the kind of player we needed to get back and up and Sir Graham knew it.
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I would settle for another Nigel Sims for next season. You want on rushing forwards cleaning out? Big Nige was your man.
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Fight fight fight
https://amp.twimg.com/v/78a82f7c-105d-4808-b6c9-9a0e1eaade50
oh dear, bit of a toe curler that
I know Lescott is a tool, but a regular bloke publicly calling a professional athlete out for a fight is fucking embarrassing. And professional athletes are just physically strong, especially at the elite level.
You don't think that just possibly, it's a bit of a pisstake then?
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(http://i67.tinypic.com/343p1md.png)
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Fight fight fight
https://amp.twimg.com/v/78a82f7c-105d-4808-b6c9-9a0e1eaade50
oh dear, bit of a toe curler that
I know Lescott is a tool, but a regular bloke publicly calling a professional athlete out for a fight is fucking embarrassing. And professional athletes are just physically strong, especially at the elite level.
You don't think that just possibly, it's a bit of a pisstake then?
Plus Lescott could always call in Gabby to sit on the bloke while he pummelled him.
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Steve Simms is a good guy. Was just what we needed. Bet he could still kick a few of them up the arse too. Lives local still.
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We were having a chat on Saturday about the most inept piece of defending this season, a couple plumped for Toure's goal for Liverpool, the one where he just stood still and headed in the corner. It might have been because it was fresh in the memory but I went for the first on Saturday, for Joleon to be that far away from his man, in the six yard box from a cross he saw all the way, well, I'd have given Toner stick for not dealing with it, for the blame to lie with an International with medals galore was remarkable.
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The one where Long come back from an offside position you mean?
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Steve Sims wasn't great but he was exactly the kind of player we needed to get back and up and Sir Graham knew it.
He knew every trick in the book.... Very very astute signing at the time
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Looking back I wonder who would win a sprint between Sims and Lescott.
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he is off to china ,
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Whites?
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Looking back I wonder who would win a sprint between Sims and Lescott.
I think Lescott would struggle to outrun Joan Sims, let alone Steve.
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China Crisis?
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China Sorrows?
You'll have to have a son of about 12 to stand a chance of getting that.
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China's dead?
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Hope this is true 😆
Free transfer to Leeds.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/08/04/leeds-united-poised-to-move-for-unwanted-aston-villa-defender-jo/
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he is off to china ,
slow scrote to China
Hopefully the rumours about Leeds are true, weaken a rival at the same time as trimming the wage bill.
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Hope this is true 😆
Free transfer to Leeds.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/08/04/leeds-united-poised-to-move-for-unwanted-aston-villa-defender-jo/
Leaves us light of CB 3 days before the season ....
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Hope this is true 😆
Free transfer to Leeds.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/08/04/leeds-united-poised-to-move-for-unwanted-aston-villa-defender-jo/
Leaves us light of CB 3 days before the season ....
Okore, Elphick, Baker, Toner....
See ya Joleon!
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Hope this is true 😆
Free transfer to Leeds.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/08/04/leeds-united-poised-to-move-for-unwanted-aston-villa-defender-jo/
Leaves us light of CB 3 days before the season ....
Okore, Elphick, Baker, Toner....
See ya Joleon!
Leaves us light in defence, fuck the geezer is shit standing still.
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Joleon if you are a true fan for Villa sake go now.
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Hope this is true 😆
Free transfer to Leeds.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/08/04/leeds-united-poised-to-move-for-unwanted-aston-villa-defender-jo/
Leaves us light of CB 3 days before the season ....
Hope this is true 😆
Free transfer to Leeds.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/08/04/leeds-united-poised-to-move-for-unwanted-aston-villa-defender-jo/
Leaves us light of CB 3 days before the season ....
The bigger picture is that we will be one tosser lighter. I prefer that view.
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With Xia saying that we're in for 3-4 more transfers, it's likely one of those will be a centre back. Four should be enough I'd imagine.
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Hope this is true 😆
Free transfer to Leeds.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/08/04/leeds-united-poised-to-move-for-unwanted-aston-villa-defender-jo/
Leaves us light of CB 3 days before the season ....
Okore, Elphick, Baker, Toner....
See ya Joleon!
And Richards
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Hope this is true 😆
Free transfer to Leeds.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/08/04/leeds-united-poised-to-move-for-unwanted-aston-villa-defender-jo/
Leaves us light of CB 3 days before the season ....
Okore, Elphick, Baker, Toner....
See ya Joleon!
Plus Richards as he's still here and can play there.
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I would be happy with Okore, Elphick, Baker and Toner. The squad size needed to come down and we're gradually getting there.
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Hope this is true 😆
Free transfer to Leeds.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/08/04/leeds-united-poised-to-move-for-unwanted-aston-villa-defender-jo/
Leaves us light of CB 3 days before the season ....
Okore, Elphick, Baker, Toner....
See ya Joleon!
Plus Richards as he's still here and can play there.
There is a lie in there PWS. He can prance about there and look pretty. Not sure play there is his frorte.
Plus I reckon he will be gone by September. Would not be at all surprised to see us go for a loan centre back and try and buy Gunter off Reading for his 1.1m release clause to replace Hutton
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Worst central defender I've seen at Villa in terms of attitude and commitment. I think it was the Southampton home game where he kept losing his marker and conceding headed goals. Lots of errors last season but those are the ones that I remember most as best example. Awful attitude, horrible man.
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Worst central defender I've seen at Villa in terms of attitude and commitment. I think it was the Southampton home game where he kept losing his marker and conceding headed goals. Lots of errors last season but those are the ones that I remember most as best example. Awful attitude, horrible man.
Nail on the head.
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I think Pulis knew exactly what he was doing palming Lescott off on Sherwood (totally schooled him), his legs were gone & he was sold on basis of reputation not the fact that Pulis had hidden him at left back for months.
Unfortunately there was no hiding place in our defence last year with full backs & central midfielders who seemed to think defending was beneath them so I think it would have taken Bonucci & Hummels to shine at centre half!
The time to have signed him was when he left Wolves
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I would be happy with Okore, Elphick, Baker and Toner. The squad size needed to come down and we're gradually getting there.
Not a chance. Baker is poor and Toner totally unproven. Okore injury prone although Elphick could be decent. Need at least one more first 11 centre half in
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Hope this is true 😆
Free transfer to Leeds.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/08/04/leeds-united-poised-to-move-for-unwanted-aston-villa-defender-jo/
Leaves us light of CB 3 days before the season ....
Okore, Elphick, Baker, Toner....
See ya Joleon!
And Richards
We should throw Richards in with the Lescott deal, two disgraceful professionals
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Hope this is true 😆
Free transfer to Leeds.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/08/04/leeds-united-poised-to-move-for-unwanted-aston-villa-defender-jo/
This report's bollocks - it was a Mercedes not a Porsche
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I would be happy with Okore, Elphick, Baker and Toner. The squad size needed to come down and we're gradually getting there.
Not a chance. Baker is poor and Toner totally unproven. Okore injury prone although Elphick could be decent. Need at least one more first 11 centre half in
Agree.
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What time am I picking you up Joleon, I have hired a car of your dreams to take you up to Yarkshire.
A decent player with a terrible attitude - he is someone who needs the supporters to be on his side, this was never going to happen given his outbursts and his demeanour.
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Still think he could have had a role to play as a squad player. Prefer him to Baker at least. But no I don't think we will miss him and could do with trimming the wage bill a bit more. Okore and Elphick should be the first choice second halfs now that Clark has gone.
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Bollocks.
http://www.insidefutbol.com/2016/08/05/leeds-united-not-chasing-joleon-lescott/298434/?
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Shit
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How much do they want to be interested? I'd be willing to chip in a tenner if everyone else does to get him off our payroll.
Maybe Nathan Baker is not quite top drawer compared to Lescott in his prime but I'd rather have Baker in my team giving his all than Mr Couldn't care less.
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like Gabflab he's one I think we are stuck with
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I can't see how Leeds were going to pay his wages
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How long is his contract?
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I think it is two years Ron. One left.
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Thanks
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Saw him today with Richards,the only players who wouldnt stop their cars to sign the kids shirts.Jack,Nathan,Gabby and Ross was very chatty though.I asked Ayew if he was stopping,he replied yes,forever.
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Saw him today with Richards,the only players who wouldnt stop their cars to sign the kids shirts.Jack,Nathan,Gabby and Ross was very chatty though.I asked Ayew if he was stopping,he replied yes,forever.
Spks volumes.
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To be honest I thought he would have jumped ship last season when the MLS thing came up...pity he didn't
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Saw him today with Richards,the only players who wouldnt stop their cars to sign the kids shirts.Jack,Nathan,Gabby and Ross was very chatty though.I asked Ayew if he was stopping,he replied yes,forever.
only just seen this, But for me, Ayew saying that is great news.
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Well if his brother is worth £20m I'm not sure many clubs could afford Jordan anyway.
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Maybe Leeds arn't such mugs after all ;)
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If Leeds can't pay his wages and no one else is in the market for him then surely it's in our interests to subsidise his salary to get him off our books and out the exit door ? I think / hope our new leadership team will be currently working on getting shot of him and Richards who haven't featured in our pre season.
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Now in talks with Rangers apparently!
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Now in talks with Rangers apparently!
Great news!
(Says Celtic fan).
Actually, I'd still be pleased if we lumbered Celtic with him. I like us the best.
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Now in talks with Rangers apparently!
Great news!
(Says Celtic fan).
Actually, I'd still be pleased if we lumbered Celtic with him. I like us the best.
I thought most clubs up there are skint he must be on a fare wedge here.Lets hope they have found some cash to spare.
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I hope this goes through. Good deal for all parties.
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Now in talks with Rangers apparently!
Great news!
(Says Celtic fan).
Actually, I'd still be pleased if we lumbered Celtic with him. I like us the best.
That last sentence chuckled me....
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We're not making the most of some good counters. Need this second goal.
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Fuck me Eric you truly are a wanker
Eric Black and his experience part 236 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3744371/Aston-Villa-s-Joleon-Lescott-leader-Rangers-lucky-sign-says-Eric-Black.html ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)
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A wanker who's only doing us a favour in talking him up, possibly the most positive thing he's done.
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Fuck me Eric you truly are a wanker
Eric Black and his experience part 236 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3744371/Aston-Villa-s-Joleon-Lescott-leader-Rangers-lucky-sign-says-Eric-Black.html ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)
Surely you mean finally talking some sense.......... cough cough
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too funny
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Well said Eric. Sign him up Rangers
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Eric finally do something well. Keep it up, now flog Richards and Gabby to the tabloids.
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We didn't 'need' someone to pick on. He just happened to be a tosser.
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Fuck me Eric you truly are a wanker
Eric Black and his experience part 236 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3744371/Aston-Villa-s-Joleon-Lescott-leader-Rangers-lucky-sign-says-Eric-Black.html ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)
We were only saying what a c**t he was last night...
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Fuck me Eric you truly are a wanker
Eric Black and his experience part 236 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3744371/Aston-Villa-s-Joleon-Lescott-leader-Rangers-lucky-sign-says-Eric-Black.html ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)
"But he kept turning up, kept training, kept going out in front of them – and kept taking the ball, no matter the reaction."
I definitely missed that bit - remember Loftus-cheek giving him 5m head start and still beating him to the ball.
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let see if he would be so quick to have him at Southampton , you can top talking shit about us now Eric you clown
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Lescott is probably the best player we have had in the last decade
I really really really hope that this Celtic link is untrue
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seems Moyes is interested now
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Other teams in for Lescott? Gutted.
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Other teams in for Lescott? Gutted.
Has he got a buy-out clause? WE could do with a bidding war;-)
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seems Moyes is interested now
Can have Richards 2-4-1
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The Twitter nonsense and chewing gum incident I'm sorry it hasn't worked out for him here, it was just a few years too late for him and despite his efforts he was pretty crap.
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Fuck me Eric you truly are a wanker
Eric Black and his experience part 236 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3744371/Aston-Villa-s-Joleon-Lescott-leader-Rangers-lucky-sign-says-Eric-Black.html ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)
Of all the managers and caretaker managers we have had since MON i think Black was the worst of the lot
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Please let the Rangers rumour be true
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Please let the Rangers rumour be true
I'd rather the Sunderland rumour was true, more chance of a fee. Rangers are still pretty brassick aren't they?
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Fuck me Eric you truly are a wanker
Eric Black and his experience part 236 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3744371/Aston-Villa-s-Joleon-Lescott-leader-Rangers-lucky-sign-says-Eric-Black.html ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)
Of all the managers and caretaker managers we have had since MON i think Black was the worst of the lot
The usual "all pissing in the same pot" shit from perrenial under achievers stealing a living from the game and petrified of criticising any fellow professional.
I didn't go past the bit about us needing someone to pick on, no, we needed both players and management to earn their salary and at least show some sort of pride. These two ****** are utterly incapable and will forever slosh around amongst the has beens and never will be's.
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I've mentioned this before but look at Black's record wherever he's been. Apart from helping to get that lot up it's shite. Expect Southampton to be wallowing in the lower region of the premier league soon. I don't think he got over being in their dugout when Cahill scored his overhead kick which effectively relegated them.
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The twitter/chewing gum incidents were blown way out of proportion. He was no longer good enough to play for us that is clear, but people getting so upset by something on twitter is more of a reflection on them than it is on Lescott.
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The twitter/chewing gum incidents were blown way out of proportion. He was no longer good enough to play for us that is clear, but people getting so upset by something on twitter is more of a reflection on them than it is on Lescott.
In isolation yes, but against a backdrop of such discontent, his dreadfull performances and an air, like so many others, of not giving two fucks about our plight leads people to, indeed, get a bit giddy about it. And so they should, we should expect a certain level of behaviour from all that carry our colours and get paid for doing so. Give footballers an inch and they'll take a mile. Set the standards, tell all the meet them or go elsewhere.
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The twitter/chewing gum incidents were blown way out of proportion. He was no longer good enough to play for us that is clear, but people getting so upset by something on twitter is more of a reflection on them than it is on Lescott.
In isolation yes, but against a backdrop of such discontent, his dreadfull performances and an air, like so many others, of not giving two fucks about our plight leads people to, indeed, get a bit giddy about it. And so they should, we should expect a certain level of behaviour from all that carry our colours and get paid for doing so. Give footballers an inch and they'll take a mile. Set the standards, tell all the meet them or go elsewhere.
SGT would be proud of that post. Didn't he get rid of Warren Aspinall for a head butt in a pre season friendly in Scotland?
Although having worked very briefly in Tenerife with another DJ who was a Pompey fan and mixed with the likes of Warren Aspinall and Paul Walsh apparently Aspinall was quite 'a lad' off the pitch too. I suspect not to SGT's standards.
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The twitter/chewing gum incidents were blown way out of proportion. He was no longer good enough to play for us that is clear, but people getting so upset by something on twitter is more of a reflection on them than it is on Lescott.
In isolation yes, but against a backdrop of such discontent, his dreadfull performances and an air, like so many others, of not giving two fucks about our plight leads people to, indeed, get a bit giddy about it. And so they should, we should expect a certain level of behaviour from all that carry our colours and get paid for doing so. Give footballers an inch and they'll take a mile. Set the standards, tell all the meet them or go elsewhere.
I don't think he didn't try, I just think he was a poor player at the end of his career. Just my opinion.
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The twitter/chewing gum incidents were blown way out of proportion. He was no longer good enough to play for us that is clear, but people getting so upset by something on twitter is more of a reflection on them than it is on Lescott.
In isolation yes, but against a backdrop of such discontent, his dreadfull performances and an air, like so many others, of not giving two fucks about our plight leads people to, indeed, get a bit giddy about it. And so they should, we should expect a certain level of behaviour from all that carry our colours and get paid for doing so. Give footballers an inch and they'll take a mile. Set the standards, tell all the meet them or go elsewhere.
I don't think he didn't try, I just think he was a poor player at the end of his career. Just my opinion.
I agree. I thought he would be a great signing for Albion but in truth he never particularly impressed me on the occasions I saw them on telly in a live game. I think his slide had begun before he even got to us.
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'Twas the City Croesus type riches that did it
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seems Moyes is interested now
Can have Richards 2-4-1
If it's Rangers, they can have Hutton ax well and make it 3-4-1.
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Anyone who thinks Lescott did his best last season but was merely past it needs to watch this to remind them. Second Stoke goal, from about 1'35". Disgrace.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QWNUo_vcjfo
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Looks like we might be waving bye bye according to latest report he's said yes. get in!
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It's only the Scottish Scum but they reckon he's said yes and will sign within 24 hours.
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Couldn't happen soon enough.
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2 year deal apparently.
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Please be true
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I know how you feel.
All that's left now is to decide who from here is driving him up there
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If this goes through and even one of Richards or Gabby we would have done some brilliant work in flushing the turds down the toilet
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Lets hope that he passes the medical (fingers crossed)
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Not sure this will happen ...... what I have read says on 50k a week a Villa for 1 further season while Rangers are offering 10k a week for 2 years ....... unless of course Villa are paying him a bonus to leave
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Not sure this will happen ...... what I have read says on 50k a week a Villa for 1 further season while Rangers are offering 10k a week for 2 years ....... unless of course Villa are paying him a bonus to leave
I think this bit is the key - was some talk of a severance payment from us to 'oil the wheels'
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http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/701591/Rangers-transfer-news-Joleon-Lescott-travelling-to-Glasgow
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Will he be wearing a mask as he continues to steal a living?
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Utter prick. Get rid.
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Not sure this will happen ...... what I have read says on 50k a week a Villa for 1 further season while Rangers are offering 10k a week for 2 years ....... unless of course Villa are paying him a bonus to leave
I think this bit is the key - was some talk of a severance payment from us to 'oil the wheels'
Tony's just admitted we'll be partly covering his wages for the first year of the contract.
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http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/701591/Rangers-transfer-news-Joleon-Lescott-travelling-to-Glasgow
what car is he driving?
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http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/701591/Rangers-transfer-news-Joleon-Lescott-travelling-to-Glasgow
what car is he driving?
That tweeting Lamborgini I reckon
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Not sure this will happen ...... what I have read says on 50k a week a Villa for 1 further season while Rangers are offering 10k a week for 2 years ....... unless of course Villa are paying him a bonus to leave
I think this bit is the key - was some talk of a severance payment from us to 'oil the wheels'
Tony's just admitted we'll be partly covering his wages for the first year of the contract.
Good, if our good Dr can afford it I hope we can part pay towards Gabby playing for the Baggies and Richards anywhere who takes him.
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http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/701591/Rangers-transfer-news-Joleon-Lescott-travelling-to-Glasgow
what car is he driving?
He's flying up there at warp speed in his Klingon Bird of Prey.
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As shite as it is, the SPL is still above his level.
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As shite as it is, the SPL is still above his level.
Poetic
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Bye Lescott. Nice to know we're still paying to get rid of you. Better than paying in full to keep you, I guess. Prick.
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Not sure this will happen ...... what I have read says on 50k a week a Villa for 1 further season while Rangers are offering 10k a week for 2 years ....... unless of course Villa are paying him a bonus to leave
I think this bit is the key - was some talk of a severance payment from us to 'oil the wheels'
Tony's just admitted we'll be partly covering his wages for the first year of the contract.
Multi-millionaire Villa fan still fleecing the club he supports after playing like an utter spineless waster since he got here.
Don't you just love modern football?
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Thanks Joleon - I don't quite dislike you as much as Micah.
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I do two wankpot charlatans
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I hate him more than Richards. Lescott claims to be a Villa fan. Richards laid his treachery out in the open where we could see it from the day he joined the club.
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I hate him more than Richards. Lescott claims to be a Villa fan. Richards laid his treachery out in the open where we could see it from the day he joined the club.
It's a close run thing Brian. Despicable - both of them.
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Lescott isn't as bad as most people say, he's just a bit thick.
I enjoyed watching those videos of him with the kid from Acorn who interviewed him a few times, they seemed to have a great rapport not without a bit of mickey-taking (the boy first met him when Lescott was at the Baggies). It was one of the most natural ''footballer doing his obligated charity duties'' I've seen.
And I can believe that he had a nice offer to fuck off to the sun with LA Galaxy last January but genuinely wanted to help turn things round at the Villa.
He went about certain things arse about tit but the real disappointing thing in all this is that we weren't able to sign him earlier/at his peak as I think he could have been great for us.
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he came, he saw, and I don't want him coming again.
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Sky Sports Scotland @ScotlandSky 3 minutes ago
Joleon Lescott will not be signing for Rangers. The player has decided against a move to Scotland due to family reasons #Rangers
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That's fucking annoying.
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literally can't give him away
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Dammit. I can't tweet him a picture of a taxi now.
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Sky Sports Scotland @ScotlandSky 3 minutes ago
Joleon Lescott will not be signing for Rangers. The player has decided against a move to Scotland due to family reasons #Rangers
Can't say I blame him, who would want to inflict an afternoon at Ibrox on their family?
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He going to Sunderland then?
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This really isn't the news I wanted to hear today.
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Maybe they could not all get in the car?
Another footballer who would rather go shopping every weekend
So this time next year he will retire, because he wont go to MLS / China etc... due to family reasons
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FFS, please just leave.
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literally can't give him away
It wasn't even giving him away, it was paying someone to take him and paying him to go. I take back what I just said - fuck off Joleon you're as bad as Micah.
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If Eric Black /Tom Fox had been even remotely competent at their jobs they'd have found a way to sack Lescott after his piss-taking last season and not left us in the position of having to continue paying him.
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Same could be said of a certain Gabby, how he escaped the sack is beyond me!
In no other job could you behave like he did and not get the sack
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Can't he just officially retire? he'll struggle to find a club after a year of playing in the reserves at 34.
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word is he failed the medical
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I think all that reluctance to make people accountable for their actions was endemic to the Lerner ownership. It began with MON running rings round us and continues with the chain of free loading by the likes of N'Zog, Gabby and Lescott. I don't think Tony Xia will have the slightest reluctance to use lawyers on anybody taking his money and taking the piss.
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Shameful that a 'boyhood fan' would rather sit in the stand taking money off the club he professes to love, than earn a living - not forgetting he is already a multi-millionaire.
Same with Gabby. Shameful.
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Shameful that a 'boyhood fan' would rather sit in the stand taking money off the club he professes to love, than earn a living - not forgetting he is already a multi-millionaire.
Same with Gabby. Shameful.
He's clearly had some issues but I think he wants to stay and play for AVFC, just my opinion.
Gabby that is, not Lescott.
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I've no doubt Gabby wants to stay at Villa, why wouldn't he? It's been an absolute breeze so far.
What benefit it is to us, not the foggiest.
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Family reasons ?
wouldnt you not speak to your family first before meeting up with Warburton ?
you fancy moving to scotland dear? no fuck that , there is no Selfridges
sorry warbo , she dont fancy Scotland ......
it must be Sunderland then ( crossing fingers ) he is going
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Thank goodness the Rangers move fell through. Sunderland you say? Oh no!!
Well, if he goes to Sunderland so be it, but I will be gutted I tell you.
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Family reasons ?
wouldnt you not speak to your family first before meeting up with Warburton ?
you fancy moving to scotland dear? no fuck that , there is no Selfridges
sorry warbo , she dont fancy Scotland ......
it must be Sunderland then ( crossing fingers ) he is going
I hope so, I may even start watching match of the day again
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BBC reporting he failed a medical
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word is he failed the medical
They obviously hadn't calibrated their machine settings to 'Klingon anatomy'.
Schoolboy error. ;D
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Shameful that a 'boyhood fan' would rather sit in the stand taking money off the club he professes to love, than earn a living - not forgetting he is already a multi-millionaire.
Same with Gabby. Shameful.
He's clearly had some issues but I think he wants to stay and play for AVFC, just my opinion.
Gabby that is, not Lescott.
Maybe, but a few pictures that prove he has got himself fit is not enough for me. It's just as likely that without achieving a certain weight and certain fitness targets he gets fined.
On his money and with no work as a distraction, I reckon I could give the Brownlee brothers a run for their money - smiley face.
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Surely, just as a player can walk away because the club have become not what they wanted, the club can get rid because he is a sack of shit?
But no - the parasitic cockwomble sits on the bench and draws his wages for doing sweet faaaack all.
Boyhood heroes my arse!
Maybe he just can't get the right background for when he is tweeting pictures of his car?
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Family reasons ?
wouldnt you not speak to your family first before meeting up with Warburton ?
you fancy moving to scotland dear? no fuck that , there is no Selfridges
sorry warbo , she dont fancy Scotland ......
it must be Sunderland then ( crossing fingers ) he is going
Kaboul is leaving so they could have him and Richards. Two for the price of one (foc) and Moyes could play one in the 1st half and one in the 2nd, hoping that in the half they each play they don't make their usual c*** up.
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This is the problem with having too large a squad of players
I think you should have a max of 23 first team players, otherwise you are paying salaries for players who hardly kick a ball for you during the season, and become a massive drain on the clubs resources both in pay and in time.
We need to get rid of a fair few before buying anymore, trouble is no one wants them.
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Useless twat. He'll be another one on his arse for 12 months milking us. Just keep them completely away from the 1st time, we don't need their poison.
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someone get a map book out, and call every club near the M74 & M6 between here and glasgow.
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Arsecock
Surely there is some muppet who stil thinks he's worth a punt
After all we did
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Well Tony has shot the failed medical rumours straight down.
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BBC reporting he failed a medical
Dr has tweeted that he rejected the move and Sky are correct but the Beeb wrong.....nice to hear the truth from somewhere. Makes the Beeb look a bit daft
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http://www.footballinsider247.com/aston-villa-fans-react-on-twitter/?
Nothing more on the story than we already know. But just look at the picture on this attachment. The very epitome of shitness last season.
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Sky Sports Scotland @ScotlandSky 3 minutes ago
Joleon Lescott will not be signing for Rangers. The player has decided against a move to Scotland due to family reasons #Rangers
Can't say I blame him, who would want to inflict an afternoon at Ibrox on their family?
Who would want to inflict an afternoon of Lescott on Ibrox? Doesn't seem fair to do that to so many people ;-)
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Which bit of 'fuck off Joleon' did he not get?
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Sky Sports Scotland @ScotlandSky 3 minutes ago
Joleon Lescott will not be signing for Rangers. The player has decided against a move to Scotland due to family reasons #Rangers
Can't say I blame him, who would want to inflict an afternoon at Ibrox on their family?
Who would want to inflict an afternoon of Lescott on Ibrox? Doesn't seem fair to do that to so many people ;-)
It's not fair on Sunderland either but would you rather he was here?
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A picture of the failed medical appeared on Tony's Twitter feed:
(http://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp6ci1Ofmc1qapfvgo3_400.gif)
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A picture of the failed medical appeared on Tony's Twitter feed:
(http://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp6ci1Ofmc1qapfvgo3_400.gif)
That gave me 'LOLs'.
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Sky Sports Scotland @ScotlandSky 3 minutes ago
Joleon Lescott will not be signing for Rangers. The player has decided against a move to Scotland due to family reasons #Rangers
Can't say I blame him, who would want to inflict an afternoon at Ibrox on their family?
It depends which member of the family and how much you like or dislike them. Didn't you have a cousin called 'laughing boy' you weren't particularly fond of? For what it's worth I'm not a massive fan of a cousin on my mum's side called Yvonne. Who's husband is a great bloke called Neil who I believe you worked with for a while. Her husband is great, her two kids (well they are grown up now) are great but she is vile. And it is not often I call someone vile.
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A picture of the failed medical appeared on Tony's Twitter feed:
(http://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp6ci1Ofmc1qapfvgo3_400.gif)
I like it lol.
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Sky Sports Scotland @ScotlandSky 3 minutes ago
Joleon Lescott will not be signing for Rangers. The player has decided against a move to Scotland due to family reasons #Rangers
Can't say I blame him, who would want to inflict an afternoon at Ibrox on their family?
Who would want to inflict an afternoon of Lescott on Ibrox? Doesn't seem fair to do that to so many people ;-)
It's not fair on Sunderland either but would you rather he was here?
Sunderland deserve him because of how their cheating female CEO or whatever she was; turned us over for the goalkeeper in the January transfer window.
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Sky Sports Scotland @ScotlandSky 3 minutes ago
Joleon Lescott will not be signing for Rangers. The player has decided against a move to Scotland due to family reasons #Rangers
Can't say I blame him, who would want to inflict an afternoon at Ibrox on their family?
Who would want to inflict an afternoon of Lescott on Ibrox? Doesn't seem fair to do that to so many people ;-)
Fuck 'em. Bigots.
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BBC reporting he failed a medical
Dr has tweeted that he rejected the move and Sky are correct but the Beeb wrong.....nice to hear the truth from somewhere. Makes the Beeb look a bit daft
Thats if Tony telling the truth ... after all why would the club deny a player they were desparately tryng to sell / offload was crocked ???
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His legs are so gone , he should be Division 1 or 2 and then there is even more the issue of wages
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If he failed a medical than he is incapable of doing the job he is employed to do. So we should give him a medical and then get rid of him on capability grounds with some payoff. I hope I am not being insensitive here but he is employed to carry out a physically demanding task?
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If he failed a medical than he is incapable of doing the job he is employed to do. So we should give him a medical and then get rid of him on capability grounds with some payoff. I hope I am not being insensitive here but he is employed to carry out a physically demanding task?
RDM and Tony have both said he didn't fail the medical.
Roberto Di Matteo has confirmed that Joleon Lescott turned down a move to Rangers because he couldn’t agree personal terms.
The Italian said Lescott passed a medical after waving goodbye to his team-mates at Bodymoor Heath yesterday but decided against a move overnight.
"It’s quite public that we had a agreement with Rangers,"he said. "He didn’t agree personal terms."
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If he failed a medical than he is incapable of doing the job he is employed to do. So we should give him a medical and then get rid of him on capability grounds with some payoff. I hope I am not being insensitive here but he is employed to carry out a physically demanding task?
RDM and Tony have both said he didn't fail the medical.
Roberto Di Matteo has confirmed that Joleon Lescott turned down a move to Rangers because he couldn’t agree personal terms.
The Italian said Lescott passed a medical after waving goodbye to his team-mates at Bodymoor Heath yesterday but decided against a move overnight.
"It’s quite public that we had a agreement with Rangers,"he said. "He didn’t agree personal terms."
Also what a colossal can of worms that would open. So last season would we have to send Amavi down the disciplinary route because he couldn't perform after his injury? You can't just apply sanctions to those players who you don't want.
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Failed to agree personal terms - meaning I can't see the other side of the street because the air here is full of fucking midges, when it's not pissing down its snowing, the food is mostly inedible and Jimmy Kranky is in charge. Can't blame him really the useless knacker.
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If he failed a medical than he is incapable of doing the job he is employed to do. So we should give him a medical and then get rid of him on capability grounds with some payoff. I hope I am not being insensitive here but he is employed to carry out a physically demanding task?
He didn't fail a medical did he?
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If he failed a medical than he is incapable of doing the job he is employed to do. So we should give him a medical and then get rid of him on capability grounds with some payoff. I hope I am not being insensitive here but he is employed to carry out a physically demanding task?
You are joking aren't you?
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I think it might come down to offering the twunt a reasonable payoff to do one.
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I think it might come down to offering the twunt a reasonable payoff to do one.
Who's looking after the pot?
I'll give £10 to start it off
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If he failed a medical than he is incapable of doing the job he is employed to do. So we should give him a medical and then get rid of him on capability grounds with some payoff. I hope I am not being insensitive here but he is employed to carry out a physically demanding task?
He didn't fail a medical did he?
I think I said if.
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If he failed a medical than he is incapable of doing the job he is employed to do. So we should give him a medical and then get rid of him on capability grounds with some payoff. I hope I am not being insensitive here but he is employed to carry out a physically demanding task?
You are joking aren't you?
No. There is no evidence in previous posts that I have a sense of humour.
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The chairman won't let him go on a free to another team in our division so that rules out a Rangers type deal elsewhere. If he had a cushy number lined up in the US or Asia he would be gone already.
I expect he is looking for a retirement settlement. Can't say we weren't warned either, he was useless beyond belief when he played against us in the Cup game a couple of years back under Sherwood.
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Sky Sports Scotland @ScotlandSky 3 minutes ago
Joleon Lescott will not be signing for Rangers. The player has decided against a move to Scotland due to family reasons #Rangers
Can't say I blame him, who would want to inflict an afternoon at Ibrox on their family?
Who would want to inflict an afternoon of Lescott on Ibrox? Doesn't seem fair to do that to so many people ;-)
As somebody who favours Celtic I would have loved to see him make a hames of himself at Ibrox. Wishful thinking now that the move has fallen through...
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Sky Sports Scotland @ScotlandSky 3 minutes ago
Joleon Lescott will not be signing for Rangers. The player has decided against a move to Scotland due to family reasons #Rangers
Can't say I blame him, who would want to inflict an afternoon at Ibrox on their family?
As somebody who favours Celtic I would have loved to see him make a hames of himself at Ibrox. Wishful thinking now that the move has fallen through...
Who would want to inflict an afternoon of Lescott on Ibrox? Doesn't seem fair to do that to so many people ;-)
As somebody who favours Celtic I would have loved to see him make a hames of himself at Ibrox. Wishful thinking now that the move has fallen through...
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The chairman won't let him go on a free to another team in our division so that rules out a Rangers type deal elsewhere. If he had a cushy number lined up in the US or Asia he would be gone already.
I expect he is looking for a retirement settlement. Can't say we weren't warned either, he was useless beyond belief when he played against us in the Cup game a couple of years back under Sherwood.
I would be quite happy for him to go to another championship team.
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If he failed a medical than he is incapable of doing the job he is employed to do. So we should give him a medical and then get rid of him on capability grounds with some payoff. I hope I am not being insensitive here but he is employed to carry out a physically demanding task?
You are joking aren't you?
No. There is no evidence in previous posts that I have a sense of humour.
Having met Aftab a few times I can vouch for this.
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The chairman won't let him go on a free to another team in our division so that rules out a Rangers type deal elsewhere. If he had a cushy number lined up in the US or Asia he would be gone already.
I expect he is looking for a retirement settlement. Can't say we weren't warned either, he was useless beyond belief when he played against us in the Cup game a couple of years back under Sherwood.
I would be quite happy for him to go to another championship team.
me too
the only issue being no one is stupid enough to want the c***
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The chairman won't let him go on a free to another team in our division so that rules out a Rangers type deal elsewhere. If he had a cushy number lined up in the US or Asia he would be gone already.
I expect he is looking for a retirement settlement. Can't say we weren't warned either, he was useless beyond belief when he played against us in the Cup game a couple of years back under Sherwood.
I would be quite happy for him to go to another championship team.
me too
the only issue being no one is stupid enough to want the c***
How many times have we been in this position over the last 10 years. I really hope it stops under Dr Tone
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I was against the signing from the start. Didn't think it would turn out like this
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I'm sure as a Villa man, he'll do what's best for "his" club.
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So the useless, selfish barsteward couldn't agree personal terms with The Gers eh? Quelle surprise... ::)
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He has his family to consider. Moving to Glasgow, even for a year is a huge wrench. I don't really blame him for not going and I'm sure this isn't just to do with greed. I'd like him gone, off the books as soon as, but he also has to do the right thing for him. The best way of avoiding fuck ups like Lescott is not to sign them in the first place. It was a stupid signing, his legs had already started to go, despite him being poty for the Albion.
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He has his family to consider. Moving to Glasgow, even for a year is a huge wrench. I don't really blame him for not going and I'm sure this isn't just to do with greed. I'd like him gone, off the books as soon as, but he also has to do the right thing for him. The best way of avoiding fuck ups like Lescott is not to sign them in the first place. It was a stupid signing, his legs had already started to go, despite him being poty for the Albion.
Sorry, that's bollocks.
Back in the real world there are 10s of thousands of people who live away from home for vast stretches of time with limited time at home and that's without taking into account service men and women.
If he wanted it he'd have gone. This is exclusively about Rangers not being able to beat the £25k per week he's extracting from us.
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According to one report they were willing to pay £10k a week and us the rest for this season.
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If Lescott wanted that move then it would have happened.
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Agree VID. Anybody who takes their career seriously has to accept that there will always be times when you are separated from your family. Not exactly as though he is being asked to do a tour of duty in Afghanistan. He is a cosseted football player being paid as much in a week as soldier gets in a year.
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He has his family to consider. Moving to Glasgow, even for a year is a huge wrench. I don't really blame him for not going and I'm sure this isn't just to do with greed. I'd like him gone, off the books as soon as, but he also has to do the right thing for him. The best way of avoiding fuck ups like Lescott is not to sign them in the first place. It was a stupid signing, his legs had already started to go, despite him being poty for the Albion.
A plane can get to Brum in an hour from Glagow. I'm sure he could afford the air fares.
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From The Express:
Warburton insists the former England centre-back chose not to sign because he did not want to uproot his young family.
Xia took to Twitter to claim it was all about cash, but Warburton said: “Let me be really clear on this, it’s absolute nonsense.
“The personal terms were all agreed, it’s nothing to do with that.
“The player decided to keep his family in Manchester.
“He’s well settled with three young children, it’s absolute nonsense to say anything other than that.
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From The Express:
Warburton insists the former England centre-back chose not to sign because he did not want to uproot his young family.
Xia took to Twitter to claim it was all about cash, but Warburton said: “Let me be really clear on this, it’s absolute nonsense.
“The personal terms were all agreed, it’s nothing to do with that.
“The player decided to keep his family in Manchester.
“He’s well settled with three young children, it’s absolute nonsense to say anything other than that.
Weird. Manchester to Glasgow is definitely an upgrade.
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From The Express:
Warburton insists the former England centre-back chose not to sign because he did not want to uproot his young family.
Xia took to Twitter to claim it was all about cash, but Warburton said: “Let me be really clear on this, it’s absolute nonsense.
“The personal terms were all agreed, it’s nothing to do with that.
“The player decided to keep his family in Manchester.
“He’s well settled with three young children, it’s absolute nonsense to say anything other than that.
Weird. Manchester to Glasgow is definitely an upgrade.
And why would have to uproot his family from Manchester to Glasgow anyway? It's not exactly pole to fucking pole.
All about the benjamins. We were gonna pay the difference between the 10k and his current deal for season. Then quite obviously that second year of the deal, 10k a week wasn't enough for him. It just shows what level of ambition he has left. Playing doesn't matter half as much as paying. Waster.
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The Manchester to Glasgow drive would be quite fun in that "accidentally tweeted" supercar of his. Once you're past Preston there's bugger all traffic, and the M6 through Cumbria and then the A74(M) are great roads. Much better than the M6 from J22 down to 6, in any case.
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From The Express:
Warburton insists the former England centre-back chose not to sign because he did not want to uproot his young family.
Xia took to Twitter to claim it was all about cash, but Warburton said: “Let me be really clear on this, it’s absolute nonsense.
“The personal terms were all agreed, it’s nothing to do with that.
“The player decided to keep his family in Manchester.
“He’s well settled with three young children, it’s absolute nonsense to say anything other than that.
Weird. Manchester to Glasgow is definitely an upgrade.
And why would have to uproot his family from Manchester to Glasgow anyway? It's not exactly pole to fucking pole.
All about the benjamins. We were gonna pay the difference between the 10k and his current deal for season. Then quite obviously that second year of the deal, 10k a week wasn't enough for him. It just shows what level of ambition he has left. Playing doesn't matter half as much as paying. Waster.
I've got the best deal for the chap, and I think his waiting for them to come in for him.
Cambridge University Netball Team, I think his quite suited.
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Looking at the names and state of Sunderland's defence today I expect Moyes to come back in for him (and/or Richards) this week. Which is quite bizarre as it is easier to get to Glasgow than Sunderland from Manchester
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He has his family to consider. Moving to Glasgow, even for a year is a huge wrench. I don't really blame him for not going and I'm sure this isn't just to do with greed. I'd like him gone, off the books as soon as, but he also has to do the right thing for him. The best way of avoiding fuck ups like Lescott is not to sign them in the first place. It was a stupid signing, his legs had already started to go, despite him being poty for the Albion.
Sorry, that's bollocks.
Back in the real world there are 10s of thousands of people who live away from home for vast stretches of time with limited time at home and that's without taking into account service men and women.
If he wanted it he'd have gone. This is exclusively about Rangers not being able to beat the £25k per week he's extracting from us.
Villa in Denmark I agree absolutely. Glasgow is not a million miles from the Mancunian millionaire belt where he lives. If he was unwilling to spend a few hours a day in his supercar travelling to training then no great hardship to put up in a five star hotel for a few nights each week. This was all about his delusional belief that he is still worth big bucks wages.
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It's not a million miles buts still 2 hours and a bit to the border and that's even with picking your own speed for large parts.
With traffic it's another hour on to Weegie Land. Close to 5 hours in a car every day? It's a pretty run I suppose.
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It's 213.5 miles from Manchester to Celtic. It's not a commute I'd particularly relish every day.
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Yeah but much closer to Rangers though, I'd imagine.
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Going by Xia's comments, Lescott was originally promised something that was later withdrawn. Perhaps he was originally given permission to commute before they later told him he would have to move up there? Without knowing the facts, that's as reasonable as anything. I'm sure his phone will tweet us as to what happened at some point.
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Can't be that easy driving up and down the M6 for him to attend training at Bodymoor Heath given the mega road works currently in progress. The M6 north of Manchester to the Scottish border is nowhere near as congested. A five hour round trip in whatever top range car he drives plus three hours training. A fairly easy eight hour day from my perspective. Doable for 25K a week, I reckon, if he could put aside his sense of entitlement.
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And Xia and RDM said he couldn't agree personal terms which is incredibly broad. All they did was sent it as that he failed a medical. I don't know why Rangers are getting so worked up over it.
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Mail are saying if he is still here come Sept 1st the club will consider paying off his contract.
If that happens with Lescott or any of the useless cowards still lingering from last season it's as bad as anything Lerner ever did. If he gets the next years money and then scores a contract elsewhere for the same period that is sickening and is rewarding mediocrity and abject failure.
If he and 'his team' don't find him a club by Sept 1st then the simple answer is he stays and is called for training at a different time to first team....it's a squad game & he will simply be a member of the squad that never plays.
These players have taken the piss out of Aston Villa once with their performances (or lack of), don't let them do it again...
The club control the players destiny by virtue of a contract, something we are obligated by and should meet those minimum terms...it is up to the players whether they want to play or are happy to milk the gravy train.
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Mail are saying if he is still here come Sept 1st the club will consider paying off his contract.
If that happens with Lescott or any of the useless cowards still lingering from last season it's as bad as anything Lerner ever did. If he gets the next years money and then scores a contract elsewhere for the same period that is sickening and is rewarding mediocrity and abject failure.
If he and 'his team' don't find him a club by Sept 1st then the simple answer is he stays and is called for training at a different time to first team....it's a squad game & he will simply be a member of the squad that never plays.
These players have taken the piss out of Aston Villa once with their performances (or lack of), don't let them do it again...
The club control the players destiny by virtue of a contract, something we are obligated by and should meet those minimum terms...it is up to the players whether they want to play or are happy to milk the gravy train.
Totally agree. If we're to pay him the next years wages, let him come in every day and train on his own. Then let's see if he can't agree " personal terms" in January with someone
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And Xia and RDM said he couldn't agree personal terms which is incredibly broad. All they did was sent it as that he failed a medical. I don't know why Rangers are getting so worked up over it.
My guess is that they don't want it look like they do not have much cash.
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It's 213.5 miles from Manchester to Celtic. It's not a commute I'd particularly relish every day.
Who says he's got to do it every day?
Plenty of people work away from home and are pretty much only home at weekends. There's plenty of ways to make it happen if he wanted it to happen.
Christ on his money he could buy an S-class /BMW 7 series / Jag XJ /Audi A8 LWB and a chauffeur if needs be, do it 3-4 times a week and overnight in Glasgow the rest of the time. Oddly enough that sounds like the Pires solution who is possibly the only player I've seen in a Villa shirt with worse mobility.
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He could fly from Manchester to Glasgow on a daily basis if he needed too
If we pay off his contract after the transfer window closes, he will be at another club within a week (probably Rangers)
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If we can't get rid of him before the window closes, keep him at the club but not in the squad. Then tell him not to bother coming to training. That should just about see the end of his career with his fitness. If he sees that, he might then come to a reasonable financial settlement on his contract, which I would say should be around 50% of what is remaining (assuming there is a relegation reduction clause in his contract)
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Have him clean the bogs at Villa Park everyday. The fuckhead.
Fucking Leeching Twunt.
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totally this but let's have him licking the loos clean. no brushes.
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What as a club if that is the case were we allowing him to live in Manchester, hopefully the change of top management at VP now will ensure this does not happen again.
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It's 213.5 miles from Manchester to Celtic. It's not a commute I'd particularly relish every day.
Who says he's got to do it every day?
Plenty of people work away from home and are pretty much only home at weekends. There's plenty of ways to make it happen if he wanted it to happen.
Christ on his money he could buy an S-class /BMW 7 series / Jag XJ /Audi A8 LWB and a chauffeur if needs be, do it 3-4 times a week and overnight in Glasgow the rest of the time. Oddly enough that sounds like the Pires solution who is possibly the only player I've seen in a Villa shirt with worse mobility.
On his salary he could afford a chauffer driven helicopter!
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He should play for Stockport County or Oldham Athletic rather than play for Villa, if he want to continue playing and not uproot his family. Think all the driving affected his performance. I drove down M6 yesterday and it is horrible road to drive.
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He could buy this place tomorrow.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/new-homes-for-sale/property-36103395.html
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He could buy this place tomorrow.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/new-homes-for-sale/property-36103395.html
Maybe as a wendy house.
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He could buy this place tomorrow.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/new-homes-for-sale/property-36103395.html
Wrong side of the city/river, and no direct road, for the training ground near Milngavie. Which would be funny.
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The worst thing is, he probably doesn't need the money. He could reasonably cancel his contract by mutual consent and be playing for tranmere/Burton or someone of that ilk within two weeks and actually have a purpose in life
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I really don't get this about very highly paid footballers not being prepared to travel to honour very lucrative contracts. Compare them with top jockeys who frequently ride at two meetings a day which might be anywhere between Brighton and Perth. The riders that are paid as much a Lescott travel all over the world to ride for their retainers. With the odd, rare exception they are happy family men. The big picture continues to be footballers expecting to be treated as a super species.
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I really don't get this about very highly paid footballers not being prepared to travel to honour very lucrative contracts. Compare them with top jockeys who frequently ride at two meetings a day which might be anywhere between Brighton and Perth. The riders that are paid as much a Lescott travel all over the world to ride for their retainers. With the odd, rare exception they are happy family men. The big picture continues to be footballers expecting to be treated as a super species.
That's not really the same though Brian. To honour his very lucrative contract he has to be available and ready to play for Villa until his contract ends.
He doesn't have to agree to sign for whichever club we're keen to flog him to.
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There's also a difference between jumping on a helicopter for an hours work and having to be in a specific location to work four or five days of the week.
I don't blame Lescott. If he's got kids in school and is settled in an area then I wouldn't up root to go and live in the third world to play for some bigoted twats who only have four games a season against some other bigoted twats.
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Not quite Dave or Ads, no argument intended.
If a jockey gets a contract (retainer) from an owner he is expected to ride work at any time between dawn and midday on horses he will ride in races. That work could be on the gallops anywhere between Newmarket, Epsom, Lambourn, Malton or even in France or Ireland. That is a seven days a week obligation. No excuse notes accepted.
In addition if an owner chooses to have his retained rider ride for another owner the jockey has to do it or breach the terms of his retainer. See what happened to Dettori when he had his retainer terminated by Godolphin.
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There's also a difference between jumping on a helicopter for an hours work and having to be in a specific location to work four or five days of the week.
I don't blame Lescott. If he's got kids in school and is settled in an area then I wouldn't up root to go and live in the third world to play for some bigoted twats who only have four games a season against some other bigoted twats.
Third world you say?
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-50858683.html
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There's also a difference between jumping on a helicopter for an hours work and having to be in a specific location to work four or five days of the week.
I don't blame Lescott. If he's got kids in school and is settled in an area then I wouldn't up root to go and live in the third world to play for some bigoted twats who only have four games a season against some other bigoted twats.
What does he do at the moment though? I can't believe that living in Manchester he's commuting there and back every day, that journey is horrific in the mornings.
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There is no way Scotland is a 3rd world place, it has some beautiful parts to it
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There's also a difference between jumping on a helicopter for an hours work and having to be in a specific location to work four or five days of the week.
I don't blame Lescott. If he's got kids in school and is settled in an area then I wouldn't up root to go and live in the third world to play for some bigoted twats who only have four games a season against some other bigoted twats.
Third world you say?
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-50858683.html
It's nice, but it's not a 3 bed flat in Chelsea nice...
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-54522455.html
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There's also a difference between jumping on a helicopter for an hours work and having to be in a specific location to work four or five days of the week.
I don't blame Lescott. If he's got kids in school and is settled in an area then I wouldn't up root to go and live in the third world to play for some bigoted twats who only have four games a season against some other bigoted twats.
What does he do at the moment though? I can't believe that living in Manchester he's commuting there and back every day, that journey is horrific in the mornings.
The road works actually make the M6 better. He'd jump on a 18 from the Edge and get on the toll I would imagine and up to BMH that way.
Probably a shorter commute than trying to get into Manchester city centre on the M602!
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There is no way Scotland is a 3rd world place, it has some beautiful parts to it
Rwanda has stunning countryside too.
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I don't blame Lescott. If he's got kids in school and is settled in an area then I wouldn't up root to go and live in the third world to play for some bigoted twats who only have four games a season against some other bigoted twats.
But he managed it when he was at Everton
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There's also a difference between jumping on a helicopter for an hours work and having to be in a specific location to work four or five days of the week.
I don't blame Lescott. If he's got kids in school and is settled in an area then I wouldn't up root to go and live in the third world to play for some bigoted twats who only have four games a season against some other bigoted twats.
Bigots in action:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2016/aug/22/celtic-fans-raise-45000-for-palestinian-charities-after-flag-protest
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There is no way Scotland is a 3rd world place, it has some beautiful parts to it
Rwanda has stunning countryside too.
Whenever the theme of football north of the border is developed on an H&V thread, I think of Mark Fletcher and the phrase 'tinpot Scottish shit'
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There's also a difference between jumping on a helicopter for an hours work and having to be in a specific location to work four or five days of the week.
I don't blame Lescott. If he's got kids in school and is settled in an area then I wouldn't up root to go and live in the third world to play for some bigoted twats who only have four games a season against some other bigoted twats.
Bigots in action:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2016/aug/22/celtic-fans-raise-45000-for-palestinian-charities-after-flag-protest
Nice one Percy.
What do you make of that Ads...Not exactly the work of bigots?
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There's also a difference between jumping on a helicopter for an hours work and having to be in a specific location to work four or five days of the week.
I don't blame Lescott. If he's got kids in school and is settled in an area then I wouldn't up root to go and live in the third world to play for some bigoted twats who only have four games a season against some other bigoted twats.
Bigots in action:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2016/aug/22/celtic-fans-raise-45000-for-palestinian-charities-after-flag-protest
well done Celtic.
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There's also a difference between jumping on a helicopter for an hours work and having to be in a specific location to work four or five days of the week.
I don't blame Lescott. If he's got kids in school and is settled in an area then I wouldn't up root to go and live in the third world to play for some bigoted twats who only have four games a season against some other bigoted twats.
Bigots in action:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2016/aug/22/celtic-fans-raise-45000-for-palestinian-charities-after-flag-protest
Nice one Percy.
What do you make of that Ads...Not exactly the work of bigots?
Celtic fans trolling their Israeli opponents before they sing about the 'Ra? I don't think a lot about it really.
I like the Birmingham derby. Its a derby not based on nonsensical prejudices, just good old fashioned hate.
The parochial way people in England seem to feel the need to identify a couple of League 1 standard sides is just odd.
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I like the Birmingham derby. Its a derby not based on nonsensical prejudices, just good old fashioned hate.
If I could do the changey-line-through thing I would change that to one-sided jealousy ;-)
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It's 213.5 miles from Manchester to Celtic. It's not a commute I'd particularly relish every day.
Who says he's got to do it every day?
Plenty of people work away from home and are pretty much only home at weekends. There's plenty of ways to make it happen if he wanted it to happen.
Christ on his money he could buy an S-class /BMW 7 series / Jag XJ /Audi A8 LWB and a chauffeur if needs be, do it 3-4 times a week and overnight in Glasgow the rest of the time. Oddly enough that sounds like the Pires solution who is possibly the only player I've seen in a Villa shirt with worse mobility.
On his salary he could afford a chauffer driven helicopter!
On his money he should pay someone to invent the teleporter!
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It's 213.5 miles from Manchester to Celtic. It's not a commute I'd particularly relish every day.
Who says he's got to do it every day?
Plenty of people work away from home and are pretty much only home at weekends. There's plenty of ways to make it happen if he wanted it to happen.
Christ on his money he could buy an S-class /BMW 7 series / Jag XJ /Audi A8 LWB and a chauffeur if needs be, do it 3-4 times a week and overnight in Glasgow the rest of the time. Oddly enough that sounds like the Pires solution who is possibly the only player I've seen in a Villa shirt with worse mobility.
On his salary he could afford a chauffer driven helicopter!
On his money he should pay someone to invent the teleporter!
he should make peace with Captain Kirk
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RDM made it clear that Lescott does not have a future at Villa. Lescott has two choices in that he either sees out his contract here or he looks for a new club. Having chosen to look for a new club, he knew that this would probably mean spending some time away from home. Having decided to talk with Rangers, he knew that he would have to spend some time up there. I believe this is either a case of him wanting more money or trying to drum up interest from other clubs. Neither happened and he was only left with the Rangers offer. Tough life isn't it Joleon.
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he's already light years away from his home planet of Kronos, so in intergalactic terms, a round trip to Glasgow is a piece of piss. Much like the man himself.
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he's already light years away from his home planet of Kronos, so in intergalactic terms, a round trip to Glasgow is a piece of piss. Much like the man himself.
Also, assuming we're not talking about the Kelvin timeline, the Kronos moon of Praxis has been totally destroyed, making life on the planet's surface to be almost impossible. So we're bloody stuck with him.
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he's already light years away from his home planet of Kronos, so in intergalactic terms, a round trip to Glasgow is a piece of piss. Much like the man himself.
Also, assuming we're not talking about the Kelvin timeline, the Kronos moon of Praxis has been totally destroyed, making life on the planet's surface to be almost impossible. So we're bloody stuck with him.
I'm appalled at the turn this discussion has taken. It's Qo'nos for the love of Kahless.
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He's gone. AEK Athens. Tarra a bit.
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Glad he's gone and good riddance. I thought he'd do well for when we signed him though, I must admit. Players of clubs they supposedly support are always going to cop more stick and rightly so, from the fans, when those fans can see that the player in question clearly can't be arsed to put in a shift, at the very minimum.
Cheerio Joleon, not many of us will give you a second thought now.
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Good. What a collossal waste of space and drain of money he has been. Should leave with no pride. Good luck getting to Athens more quickly than Glasgow.
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This has made my day!
Another waster gone yay!
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You learn something everyday, I never knew Athens was closer to Manchester than Glasgow, nothing to do with the money on offer I am quite sure.
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Glad to get rid.
I really thought him and Richards would show a level of maturity and professionalism that would influence the younger, newer members of the squad last season.
But no, they turn out to be just a pair of spoilt rich cnuts, who are happy to steal a wage each week, and laugh in the faces of the fans. It was obvious they just didn't want to play.
Really despise Lescott, the tweeting prick.
The likes of him, Richards, Agbonlahor and Guzan are more responsible for our relegation than Garde or Sherwood.
Good riddance.
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Really pleased with this transfer.
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Conspiracy Theory Alert- my opinion is that Lescott never forgave Villa for rejecting him as a youth player, hence his unbridled glee when he used to score against us. His recent tenure with us was the act of a spiteful, petulant tosspot who saw an opportunity to get payback. Accidental tweets my arse.
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A true representation of everything that is wrong with the modern footballer - a man in the same league as Steve Hodge. I hope a few others aren't far behind him, but for my money this idiot was the worse!
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Glad to get rid.
I really thought him and Richards would show a level of maturity and professionalism that would influence the younger, newer members of the squad last season.
But no, they turn out to be just a pair of spoilt rich cnuts, who are happy to steal a wage each week, and laugh in the faces of the fans. It was obvious they just didn't want to play.
Really despise Lescott, the tweeting prick.
The likes of him, Richards, Agbonlahor and Guzan are more responsible for our relegation than Garde or Sherwood.
Good riddance.
You took the words right out of my mouth!
Good fucking riddance.
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Excellent, bye bye.
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So Scotland, gets a no but Greece gets a yes, thank fuck that loon has gone, absolute cock of a signing, btw joleon FUCK OFF.
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Another Fucker is off.
Now for Richards and Gabby
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So Scotland, gets a no but Greece gets a yes, thank fuck that loon has gone, absolute cock of a signing, btw joleon FUCK OFF.
TBH, dour Glasgow or sitiing by a pool in the sun?
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Useless pr*ck
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Yay! Do do do...Another prick bites the dust. :)
Now for the other pair of uber-shits; and Bacuna & Hutton wouldn't be missed either - although I don't expect them to be off just yet. More's the pity.
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Hooray he's gone. :)
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Poor old Greece, as if they haven't had enough shit to deal with, now this.
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Good. Now we need to find some more mugs to offload Richards and Flabby on to.
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Good riddance to a total knob!
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A player that was able to hold his own at the top because of his pace. Once that pace had gone he couldn't cope and his limitations exposed.
Another player that could not accept his career was on the down slope and make the necessary adjustments.
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Old man he did not need to make the necessary adjustments, the home for old race horses and shite footballers brought him 12 months ago.
The one thing at least he has had the decency to get up and go, are you watching Richard, Gabby, I'm to good Adama.
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It's an interesting twist sending our relics to Greece, do you think they'll let us keep the Elgin Marbles now?
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It's an interesting twist sending our relics to Greece, do you think they'll let us keep the Elgin Marbles now?
Hopefully they will ask for Gabby and Richards as well. Then we can keep the marbles.
If those 2 are still here next week - some of us will be losing our marbles any way.
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Tara a bit.
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Someone who had been there and done that. Had just been WBA's player of the season (mind you, any time I saw him for them he looked abysmal). A supposed leader. A supposed Villa fan...
We needed some leadership in the side, particularly at the back (Richards never came close to offering it). Lescott offered...
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Fuck all. Absolute disgrace. Never looked interested. Always looked fucked physically. The whole pocket tweet thing was the most pathetic thing of all last season for me, in a long list of pathetic moments from our squad. It the sort of feck brained denial that a 10 year old boy will cling to when he knows he's done something wrong and has been caught red handed.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy." Star Wars quote...could also be applied to this club last season.
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Now that it's confirmed it's a weight off our shoulders.
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Winner of the Steve Hodge award for 2016.
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I thought he was just the experienced, defensive lynchpin we needed to lead the younger players. He wasn't.
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Glad to get rid.
I really thought him and Richards would show a level of maturity and professionalism that would influence the younger, newer members of the squad last season.
But no, they turn out to be just a pair of spoilt rich cnuts, who are happy to steal a wage each week, and laugh in the faces of the fans. It was obvious they just didn't want to play.
Really despise Lescott, the tweeting prick.
The likes of him, Richards, Agbonlahor and Guzan are more responsible for our relegation than Garde or Sherwood.
Good riddance.
thought the same (him and Richards would be a good influence on the new signings / younger players)
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Glad to get rid.
I really thought him and Richards would show a level of maturity and professionalism that would influence the younger, newer members of the squad last season.
But no, they turn out to be just a pair of spoilt rich cnuts, who are happy to steal a wage each week, and laugh in the faces of the fans. It was obvious they just didn't want to play.
Really despise Lescott, the tweeting prick.
The likes of him, Richards, Agbonlahor and Guzan are more responsible for our relegation than Garde or Sherwood.
Good riddance.
thought the same (him and Richards would be a good influence on the new signings / younger players)
Sometimes as supporters we do not know players attitudes as we only see them on the pitch. We assume that they will be the right player because of what they have done before. I thought he was going to be a good signing too for a year at least.
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I thought it was a reasonable signing at the time as well.
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Didn't want him, thought he was too old and slow and think it was proved correct. I'd still have him over Richards any day mind. How that man is still here i'll never know
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So did I. He was meant to provide depth,experience and leadership at the CB and LB position. He provided none of those things.
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I'm glad he's gone. Fuck him.
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Shame it didn't work out, was pleased when we signed him. Glad to see another bad apple gone though.
Richards and Flabby next please.
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I'm just glad he's gone
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Now that it's confirmed it's a weight off our shoulders.
Applause
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Now that it's confirmed it's a weight off our shoulders.
Applause
Yes, very good (thumbs up thingy)
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I hope they pay him in drachma.
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Good bye to a rotten apple.
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Joleon Lescott, he's got a new club.
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So much for "uprooting a young family causing the Rangers move to breakdown" bollocks....
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My favourite 'Villa' related memory of him will always be the Sunday afternoon at Goodison when the prat was still putting his shirt back on (after he pretended to throw it into the away end after he had scored/equalised) as Ashley Young blazed past him to score the winner in additional time. I always felt that he seemed to enjoy scoring against us a little too much when he was supposedly a Villa fan.
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Off you trot, you hopeless gargantuan thundercunt, I wish you nothing but ill fortune
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Fuck him - the cartwheeling Klingon - never should have signed him.
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Next one to leave will be Richards I hope.
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Next one to leave will be Richards I hope.
which might happen. That will leave G. Agbonlahor Esq who will still be on the clubs payroll for as long as he wants to be secretly hoping to crawl back into favour with the current manager.
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I've said this before but when Albion signed him I thought he would be great for them. But from live games and highlights I saw he looked poor. Then we went and signed him.
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Good news.
Now for Gabby and Richards to 0121.
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He came, he saw, he tweeted.
And, Joleon, when your Merc has long since been recycled into the tin my beans come in and no amount of nip-and-tuck can disguise the fact that your model wife's best days are behind her, we'll still remember you. Remember you as one of the motley crew that were arguably the most inept squad of players of the Premier League era. Remember you as a disgrace to the club you profess to support.
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Bit low having a dig at his wife.
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Next one to leave will be Richards I hope.
which might happen. That will leave G. Agbonlahor Esq who will still be on the clubs payroll for as long as he wants to be secretly hoping to crawl back into favour with the current manager.
Well if that's all we end up with that would be some excellent summer purging. I just hope the new faces react positively from the last result and a corner has finally turned.
How many times have I thought that though over the last (forgot now) many years?
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Bit low having a dig at his wife.
Especially as she probably would have done a better job for us in defence than Mr L.
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Bit low having a dig at his wife.
Especially as she probably would have done a better job for us in defence than Mr L.
Kay Burley would have done a better job than Lescott and Richards combined!
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Wasn't the fact that he had a model wife one of the comments he aimed at those fans who dared take issue with him last season? It was on that basis I was simply noting that such is the ephemeral nature of something like beauty, as time passes he will no longer be able to use that as a stick to beat us with; but we'll always have his "contribution" during the twelve month he was here to take issue with him.
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No, it was a fake tweet done by some sad twat.
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Off you trot, you hopeless gargantuan thundercunt, I wish you nothing but ill fortune
I was going to write something, then I saw this.
This will do.
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His positioning is so shit that he thinks Athens closer than Glasgow
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His positioning is so shit that he thinks Athens closer than Glasgow
Well that totally and utterly blows out of the water the notion that he turned down Rangers for any other reason than money. What a shit bag.
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My favourite 'Villa' related memory of him will always be the Sunday afternoon at Goodison when the prat was still putting his shirt back on (after he pretended to throw it into the away end after he had scored/equalised) as Ashley Young blazed past him to score the winner in additional time. I always felt that he seemed to enjoy scoring against us a little too much when he was supposedly a Villa fan.
If only footage of that event still existed...
*cough* Legion *cough*
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Glad to get rid.
I really thought him and Richards would show a level of maturity and professionalism that would influence the younger, newer members of the squad last season.
But no, they turn out to be just a pair of spoilt rich cnuts, who are happy to steal a wage each week, and laugh in the faces of the fans. It was obvious they just didn't want to play.
Really despise Lescott, the tweeting prick.
The likes of him, Richards, Agbonlahor and Guzan are more responsible for our relegation than Garde or Sherwood.
Good riddance.
Very spoiled and very rich. These two receive so much money that they forget what life is all about and how they got to where they are in the first place. Arrogant half educated twats. Their behaviour sums up the type gangsta rap moron currently inhabiting English football.
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His positioning is so shit that he thinks Athens closer than Glasgow
Well that totally and utterly blows out of the water the notion that he turned down Rangers for any other reason than money. What a shit bag.
well I am surprised at that
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Yes! Yes!! Yes!!!
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So when RDM said he failed to agree personal terms with Rangers Warburton made a quite big issue of that. He almost accused us of lying. Who is a prat now?
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Maybe he just didn't want to move to Scotland, you can hardly blame him! So he just came up with that as it sounded better than saying it was crap up there. ;D
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I bet there were a few thousand personal reasons why he chose Athens over Glasgow. The twat.
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Has anybody offered to look after his car while he is abroad?
I'd do it - and tweet him pictures of it - all the copies from the speed cameras I'd rush through.
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Has anybody offered to look after his car while he is abroad?
I'd do it - and tweet him pictures of it - all the copies from the speed cameras I'd rush through.
remember that time Jermaine pennant left his 911 in a multi story car park in some foreign land and forgot it was still there when he came home
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My favourite 'Villa' related memory of him will always be the Sunday afternoon at Goodison when the prat was still putting his shirt back on (after he pretended to throw it into the away end after he had scored/equalised) as Ashley Young blazed past him to score the winner in additional time. I always felt that he seemed to enjoy scoring against us a little too much when he was supposedly a Villa fan.
If only footage of that event still existed...
*cough* Legion *cough*
I don't remember anything of that ilk...so not sure what AndyB6 is on about???
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Halle Fucking lujah
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Has anybody offered to look after his car while he is abroad?
I'd do it - and tweet him pictures of it - all the copies from the speed cameras I'd rush through.
remember that time Jermaine pennant left his 911 in a multi story car park in some foreign land and forgot it was still there when he came home
Spain.
Wasn't he sent back to the UK on loan, parked up at the airport and forgot he'd left a Porsche in the car park.
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Has anybody offered to look after his car while he is abroad?
I'd do it - and tweet him pictures of it - all the copies from the speed cameras I'd rush through.
remember that time Jermaine pennant left his 911 in a multi story car park in some foreign land and forgot it was still there when he came home
Spain.
Wasn't he sent back to the UK on loan, parked up at the airport and forgot he'd left a Porsche in the car park.
had to pay a massive car parking bill for a car he forgot he even owned
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Excellent news, right who is next out of the door.
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His positioning is so shit that he thinks Athens closer than Glasgow
Well that totally and utterly blows out of the water the notion that he turned down Rangers for any other reason than money. What a shit bag.
He's obviously got family links with Unsworth, they are both fat and ugly after all.
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Good riddance lescott!! Stole a living from Villa last SSN, now is going to steal a living from a struggling Greek economy. He's nothing but a gum chewing, car tweeting, fan baiting tw-t. He's like a punch drunk boxer trying to make one final comeback when there's nothing left in the tank. AEK Athens; I wonder what the AEK stands for? Another Egotistical (K)nob!!!!! Just about sums up lescott!!! When he played for Everton and monopoly city he was always anti-Villa. He certainly proved that last season! Again failure is awarded in the modern game, ridiculous!
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He certainly looks like he enjoyed his summer, judging by the Athens tweet I saw.
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I wont miss him now he's gone.
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Maybe he just didn't want to move to Scotland, you can hardly blame him! So he just came up with that as it sounded better than saying it was crap up there. ;D
I reckon it was more like a number of Rangers fans telling him "If ya think you can come here & do what you have for the last year - we'll fuckin' lynch ya!!"
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I think that the title of this thread should be Joleon Lescott - GONE BUT NEVER FORGIVEN!
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He's such a classy guy.
The Italian media are unhappy with the way Joleon Lescott treated Pescara after they claim he turned his back on the Serie A club. The former England international yesterday signed for Greek side AEK Athens following a disastrous season with Aston Villa.
Il Centro have reported on Lescott joining AEK Athens from Aston Villa, and they believe the defender has mocked Pescara in the way he’s conducted himself in recent days.
They claim Pescara were expecting Lescott to travel to Italy after the Italian club booked a medical for yesterday morning. However, Lescott didn’t arrive in the country, and instead signed for AEK Athens on a two-year deal.
Il Centro believe the salary offered to the Aston Villa flop turned the player’s head despite reports in the past week he would prefer to move to Serie A.
Pescara were promoted last season to Serie A, and the Italian media believe it was only natural he’d prefer that option. Pescara seem to be of the opinion they had some kind of indication he’d be joining them, and so there’s a little annoyance.
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what a buchiach.
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On Greek ferry yesterday and up pops a picture on the TV screen of Lescott wearing the AEK shirt.A. Good start to the holidays.
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Pescara seem to be of the opinion they had some kind of indication he’d be joining them, and so there’s a little annoyance.
Don't tell me his phone emailed them from his pocket agreeing to join ?
Glad he's gone.
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He's such a classy guy.
The Italian media are unhappy with the way Joleon Lescott treated Pescara after they claim he turned his back on the Serie A club. The former England international yesterday signed for Greek side AEK Athens following a disastrous season with Aston Villa.
Il Centro have reported on Lescott joining AEK Athens from Aston Villa, and they believe the defender has mocked Pescara in the way he’s conducted himself in recent days.
They claim Pescara were expecting Lescott to travel to Italy after the Italian club booked a medical for yesterday morning. However, Lescott didn’t arrive in the country, and instead signed for AEK Athens on a two-year deal.
Il Centro believe the salary offered to the Aston Villa flop turned the player’s head despite reports in the past week he would prefer to move to Serie A.
Pescara were promoted last season to Serie A, and the Italian media believe it was only natural he’d prefer that option. Pescara seem to be of the opinion they had some kind of indication he’d be joining them, and so there’s a little annoyance.
Little do they know they dodged a bullet there.
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File under 'T' for twat.
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I think that the title of this thread should be Joleon Lescott - GONE BUT NEVER FORGIVEN!
simply
lescott ******
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On Greek ferry yesterday and up pops a picture on the TV screen of Lescott wearing the AEK shirt.A. Good start to the holidays.
I would say that was a great way to start the holiday as he was not in a Villa shirt.
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Just found this link, seems the klingon could be out for the season...
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/former-rangers-target-joleon-lescott-8997479
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oh well, their loss is Kronos' gain
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Just found this link, seems the klingon could be out for the season...
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/former-rangers-target-joleon-lescott-8997479
But in their last match – a 3-0 derby defeat to Olympiakos at the weekend – Lescott had a shocker, with one report saying he looked "glaringly off the pace of the game, always dropping back and backpedalling, unwilling to go into the tackle".
That sounds about right.
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Was there any mention of his phone technique?
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Couldn't resist.
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Hope he's bought himself a new car to cheer himself up.
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He could have a new skoda ;)
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Joleon Lescott went to Greece
In a Vauxhall Velox
If he's going to stink out the ground
He would rather it was Ibrox.
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Can we change the title to gone again? Beeb reporting he's left A.E.K
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/37300202?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=58370f3ce4b01ef5e4d0d311%26Lescott%20leaves%20AEK%26&ns_fee=0#post_58370f3ce4b01ef5e4d0d311
(Tweet at 16:10)
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Now out of date, but a damning poll at the bottom
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/former-rangers-target-joleon-lescott-9317270
"Former Rangers target Joleon Lescott set to have his AEK Athens contract ripped up after injury row
The crocked centre back only signed for the Greek club three months ago but is now poised to be without a club after a row over his rehabilitation.
Joleon Lescott is set to have his AEK Athens contract ripped up – less than three months after signing it.
The defender joined the Greek club at the end of August just days after a move to Rangers collapsed amid a volley of claim and counter claim.
Just four games into his adventure, Lescott suffered a detached cartilage in a knee and was ruled out for at least three months, with his potential spell on the sidelines even rising to six.
Now the 34-year-old’s career has hit another low, with sources in Greece claiming Lescott and his club have fallen out over his rehabilitation programme.
It is being reported the former England centre back told AEK he wanted to recover back home in the UK but the Greek giants refused.
Reports of the row found their way into the Athens press as both parties refuse to reach a compromise.
Sources say his two-year deal could be terminated and that would again leave the former Manchester City and Aston Villa star without a club.h"
But the vote at the end is the killer:
Did Rangers dodge a bullet over Lescott?
500+ VOTES SO FAR
Yes
No – they dodged a spray of a machine gun
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Don't even think about it Potatohead.
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Couldn't happens to a nicer bloke with his contract torn up. I wish we could do that more often ;)
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Wish we were as ruthless
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He was knackered before we signed him. Absolutely stupidity from Sherwood. Great player in his day but those days were long ago.
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Couldn't happens to a nicer bloke with his contract torn up. I wish we could do that more often ;)
Don't think he's a particularly bad bloke.
Just an increasingly erratic and unreliable footballer.
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He was knackered before we signed him. Absolutely stupidity from Sherwood. Great player in his day but those days were long ago.
Very few people were unhappy with his signing from what I can recall on here.
Penis did sell us a pup however.
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He sold us their player of the season. The problem was he was player of the season in a side that defended the edge of their own box and rarely tried to play higher up the pitch. When he came into a team that did his lack of pace was snapped sharply into focus....
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38094271
Must be a weight off his shoulders that his playing career is over ?
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Car-ma.
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Couldn't happens to a nicer bloke with his contract torn up. I wish we could do that more often ;)
Don't think he's a particularly bad bloke.
Just an increasingly erratic and unreliable footballer.
It's more than that as demonstrated by the car tweet and the weight-off-shoulders comment. But I can't work out whether he's a bit spiteful or is monumentally stupid.
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Couldn't happens to a nicer bloke with his contract torn up. I wish we could do that more often ;)
Don't think he's a particularly bad bloke.
Just an increasingly erratic and unreliable footballer.
It's more than that as demonstrated by the car tweet and the weight-off-shoulders comment. But I can't work out whether he's a bit spiteful or is monumentally stupid.
Stupid
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He sold us their player of the season. The problem was he was player of the season in a side that defended the edge of their own box and rarely tried to play higher up the pitch. When he came into a team that did his lack of pace was snapped sharply into focus....
Exactly what turned Richard Dunne from a solid centre half into a an absolute liability.
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He sold us their player of the season. The problem was he was player of the season in a side that defended the edge of their own box and rarely tried to play higher up the pitch. When he came into a team that did his lack of pace was snapped sharply into focus....
Exactly what turned Richard Dunne from a solid centre half into a an absolute liability.
Chip shops.
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He sold us their player of the season. The problem was he was player of the season in a side that defended the edge of their own box and rarely tried to play higher up the pitch. When he came into a team that did his lack of pace was snapped sharply into focus....
Exactly what turned Richard Dunne from a solid centre half into a an absolute liability.
Chip shops.
No, it was his feet. He couldn't walk past one.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38094271
Must be a weight off his shoulders that his playing career is over ?
I am sure he could do a job in the Premer League for one of the top 6😄
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I wouldn't be surprised if he rocked up at Small Heath.
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He's massively cocked up the end of what has been a very good career overall. At his best Lescott was a very competent, reliable multi functional defender who scored a good number of goals. Now he's just another bell end.
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I see he's rocked up on Sky as a pundit at the Watford Everton game.
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I see he's rocked up on Sky as a pundit at the Watford Everton game.
Translating into Klingon.
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They wanted someone who could comment on inept defending from the perspective of an expert on the topic.
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I can't remember who the other pundit was but he said something about defending and turned to Lescott for support/confirmation on his point and Lescott just looked confused.
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From speaking recently on 5 live-
"Any football fan with an ambition to be a footballer wants to play for their team and my team was Aston Villa and is Aston Villa, so to do that was an amazing feeling."
Lescott experience revealed that the fans' anger extended to his relatives who kept away from Villa Park to avoid it. "It was hard when family were getting the abuse and when they're not coming to games because of the abuse that's frustrating, but I had to take it."
"I never got excited about the good times....so the bad times you just let them go as well."
"It's hard but for me I still enjoy training and playing football so the negatives were not going to outweigh that feeling I had of playing and training.
Lescott insisted there was never an issue with his desire to represent Villa and claimed most of his issues stemmed from off-the-field disagreements with fans.
"Again no fan, well not many fans, at the time were criticising me for my performance or my commitment, they were criticising me for stuff that was so-called accidental that I didn't mean to do.
"I remember after the last game of the season I was walking back to the car and two Villa fans came up to me and said 'Why did you tweet and stuff like that?'.
"The truth is that I didn't mean to do it but we've just got relegated and your concern is about a tweet?
"We've got bigger issues to worry about than a tweet and what I've said.
We need to really think about what direction we're going in now. When I look back and think there would probably be numerous Villa fans that wish I didn't join.
"That's their opinion but on the whole they can't question my effort and desire to play for that team."
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I'm sure that article was a weight off his shoulders.
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Apart from Stoke away I can't remember too many 110% give it my all appearances from Lescott and as for his accidental tweets - he must think we are all thick.
And Joleon no Villa fan is glad you ever pulled on the Claret and Blue jersey. Just for clarification.
PS if you want to sue me then please go ahead.
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My view of him is that he is just well a bit thick really.
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Lescott offerings were short of mark and his career was tailing off. The thing is Sherwood wouldn't of had him going through the motions a while season. And ultimately his performances like the team were devoid of any passion and aggression and lacked quality
I would imagine confidence took a massive battering but our joelan would use his pride and career success to live off and rest on laurels. I think he would have been a better signing before he left West Brom or if we had brought in Jonny Evans who replaced him at buggies. Lescott was not a success at villa and I think he could admit that.
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Re Lescott's 5 live transcript...It's self pitying waffle and nothing more!
It wasn't so much that he played sh-te that bothered me. It was the fact that for all his experience and position of leadership within the club, he failed the Villa fans in their time of need. Instead of taking certain individuals to task within the club, he decided to take the p-ss out of the fans and confront them. For me I saw no effort or commitment to answer his final point and I saw no affection for the club he claims to support.
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Lescott is a c***
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You always know when anybody in the public eye is in trouble through their own actions. They bring their family into it. See Unsworth D.
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What we thought we were getting was an experienced leader on the field, with the added bonus of being motivated to give his all for 'his' club. What we got was a knackered journeyman, completely detached from reality, ambivalent to the troubles of the club and the suffering of the fans.
For him to come out with that feeble reaction 8 months after we were relagated simply confirms his lack of understanding, and I suspect is only motivated by securing his next seat on a different gravy train.
Could have been so different Jolean, but sadly you let the team, the fans and yourself down. Accept that and move on.
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Lescott is a prick, we aren't his team, he's never shown us anything but disrespect. He can fuck off, the charlatan.
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I remember seeing him interviewed ages ago and he was asked about supporting the Villa. He said that he used to watch us, but had since grown out of it!!
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He not only comes across in that interview as massively stupid but immensely naive. He should have just he regrets not being better with us and apologized and it would all have just disappeared. A player over time most of us won't even connect to the club. In fact he will always be a non entity in Villa history.
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One suspects that should he succeed in securing a post-playing career in the mee-ja, he will always be referred to as the ex-Everton and Manchester City Joleon Lescott. However, just like with the ex-Everton and Arsenal Martin Keown, we'll all remember his part in our relegation.
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Lescott is a prick, we aren't his team, he's never shown us anything but disrespect. He can fuck off, the charlatan.
When we're talking at the moment about people who have been fantastic for football, and the Villa in particular, the reemergence of this maggot makes me sick.
Villa fan my arse. Nobody believes you. Motivated by money and nothing else.
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From speaking recently on 5 live-
"That's their opinion but on the whole they can't question my effort and desire to play for that team."
Want to bet?
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We signed him years later than we should've. Even at the time he signed for WBA in 2014 I think he'd have been a decent pick up.
His comments there I think added to the well known ones he said last year just indicate to me he's another moddy-coddled footballer where anything is never his fault.
Richards is another....in their self-centred bubbles thinking they're great just because their bank balance is.
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Tonight - after watching that dire excuse for a " team " display, I am even more upset that normal about this " fancy-Dan " so-called-supporter milking Aston Villa in the way he did, treating the fans with such utter contempt and then claiming he loves the club that you and I love. Go away. Lescott.....and take this thread with you!
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Scary news for Mackems ... free agent Joleon Lescott is training with Sunderland with a view to a move.
You presume someone there kept an eye on us last year or even learned enough from the limited 'highlights' package at the end of MOTM, but clearly not.
'Clutching' and 'straws' spring to mind.
Have we got over second centre-mid and right back yet?
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What is it with the North East and signing players from one of the shittest teams to ever grace the Premier League?
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Scary news for Mackems ... free agent Joleon Lescott is training with Sunderland with a view to a move.
You presume someone there kept an eye on us last year or even learned enough from the limited 'highlights' package at the end of MOTM, but clearly not.
'Clutching' and 'straws' spring to mind.
Have we got over second centre-mid and right back yet?
Moyes , perhaps like other managers, enjoys bringing in his trusted players . Could see him going for Jagielka too and team him and lescott . Both look lile they aren't top level quality and we saw jolen Jolene appetite for a relegation battle so seems more the case moyes feels he can rely on him! Based on season past !Despite his protestations that he gives it is he a Mr 100%! ?
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He was slower than Jedinak is now, when he arrived from WBA. Now I guess he hasn't improved, either. What do you think ?
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He was slower than Jedinak is now, when he arrived from WBA. Now I guess he hasn't improved, either. What do you think ?
His missus is sexy (allegedly) and he drives a better car than me.
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....Has he [accidentally of course ] sent you a picture.
Of his CAR, I mean...........
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....Has he [accidentally of course ] sent you a picture.
Of his CAR, I mean...........
He did....
(http://boredomfiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/stranded-old-lady-1.jpg)
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Whoah !!!!!!!
See what you mean. She's a beauty.
Now where did I put my glasses ?
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Haha Sunderland are s_ckers. Glad Moyes didn't become our manager!
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Blimey, Moysie really wants the bullet doesn't he?
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As crap as mid-table Championship is give yourself a moment to just think about Sunderland and their fans for a minute. They are going through every just much as we have been going through over the last few seasons before last seasons debacle. As strange as it may sound I prefer being mid-table in the Championship knowing that we are chasing something achievable rather than watch manager after manager get sacked and rubbish player after rubbish player being thrown into the battle in which they are ultimately doomed to fail. Losing every week, unpopular manager, dislike bordering on hatred of your players, a universally unpopular owner, signings seemingly designed to relegate the team, and comments from managers making it appear that they want the sack anyway.
Horrible, truly horrible.
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Only the bottom 3 of the PL are yet to better our points total from last season, and all 3 are 1 win away from doing it. I'm with Peter, despite being mid-table (so far) i'm much preferring this to last season.
I may revise my answer if we're mid-table next season as well, but as we'll be clear at the top it will all be good.
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Blimey, Moysie really wants the bullet doesn't he?
I'm surprised he's still there. Last week he said something like "Signing new players this window won't make a big difference". I think he's just waiting to be fired before becoming a full time TV pundit. We certainly dodged a bullet with him last summer.
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Well, of course, we all know that signing Lescott won't make a blind bit of difference in their plunge down to join us.
But the signings SB & Co have made might mean we swap places, yet. You never know.
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Blimey, Moysie really wants the bullet doesn't he?
I'm surprised he's still there. Last week he said something like "Signing new players this window won't make a big difference". I think he's just waiting to be fired before becoming a full time TV pundit. We certainly dodged a bullet with him last summer.
I suspected his heart wasn't in it any more when people were wanting him in the summer, I think Sunderland this season are the definitive proof that his time at Man Utd has broken him and he really needs to either take a break for a few years or just give up completely. My in-laws up there are pretty resigned to going down given everything they've been through and they all think he's done a shocking job.
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So far he's signed Pienaar, Anichebe, and now Lescott. He thinks it's 2010.
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Lescott will make a massive difference in the Sunderland defence. He will make what is a bad defence into a really bad defence.
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Seems as though Moyes wasn't really given the full picture when he was offered the job. Sunderland are just a year behind Villa. American owner lost interest and a load of players on good contracts that they can't shift. They can have Agbonlahor.
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Good signing for the Mackems, they've never really replaced Titus Bramble.
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Made his first start for Sunderland and promptly dropped a huge bollock for their third goal. Some things never change.
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Made his first start for Sunderland and promptly dropped a huge bollock for their third goal. Some things never change.
Yep, just like picking up a pay cheque from them for how long and for what in return ?
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I am just glad he isnt here any more.
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I am just glad he isnt here any more.
Agreed.
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Did he still perform crap for Sunderland as I don't watch them. Lescott should know he is not good enough anymore as a player and need to think about his future outside playing.
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Surely now he'll retire? Who on earth would take him? Other than the Tat man of course.
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Harry needs an experienced centre half.
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Harry needs an experienced centre half.
Yeah. Triffick. :o
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Must be a great weight off his shoulders for Sunderland's relegation to be confirmed.
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Must be a great weight off his shoulders for Sunderland's relegation to be confirmed.
Did he tweet any car pictures afterwards?