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Title: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on February 18, 2015, 03:49:51 PM
Sat 21 Feb 2015 - Villa Park

Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on February 18, 2015, 03:57:03 PM
Villa, Villa, Villa! Let's hope there's some positivity around the place, a circa 35k crowd, attacking football, goals, and a 2-0 home win.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on February 18, 2015, 03:58:03 PM
Villa win.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 18, 2015, 03:58:46 PM
Us 78 Them 0.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on February 18, 2015, 04:04:25 PM
The Sherwood revolution starts with a bang. A high scoring win. 4-3 to the good guys.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 18, 2015, 04:09:55 PM
3-1 Villa -Benteke back on track. Sinclair and Gil very instrumental
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 18, 2015, 04:11:21 PM
3-1 Villa -Benteke back on track. Sinclair and Gil very instrumental

I wonder if Gil will be fit for this one.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 18, 2015, 04:12:31 PM
Us 78 Them 0.

Whilst I admire your optimism, I'll be more than satisfied with our progress when Legion feels he can get back to his once-obligatory prediction of 2-0 us every week. Win this, and who knows, we might, might, be able to convince him to start the threads again. Heaven knows nobody else has lifted the curse. Perhaps the last 3.5 years hasn't been his fault.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 18, 2015, 04:13:55 PM
Anything less than a 40 goal win and I will expect Mr Sherwood to offer his resignation immediately.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: oldtimernow on February 18, 2015, 04:28:33 PM
aah retracting already I see
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on February 18, 2015, 04:30:37 PM
Possibly a 2-0 Villa win. Depends who he plays of course.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on February 18, 2015, 04:32:43 PM
1-0 win
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: West Derby Villan on February 18, 2015, 04:34:57 PM
2-0 Benteke and Weimann, 35k crowd
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 18, 2015, 04:46:07 PM
Us 78 Them 0.

Whilst I admire your optimism, I'll be more than satisfied with our progress when Legion feels he can get back to his once-obligatory prediction of 2-0 us every week. Win this, and who knows, we might, might, be able to convince him to start the threads again. Heaven knows nobody else has lifted the curse. Perhaps the last 3.5 years hasn't been his fault.

That would be great.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 18, 2015, 04:47:48 PM
2-0...
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on February 18, 2015, 04:49:58 PM
2 - 0 Villa

New broom and all that.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on February 18, 2015, 05:01:04 PM
I have to go to Nottingham saturday for a family birthday, i've tried to get out of it but I can't. first time this season im genuinely gutted I can't go.

Us 3 them 0
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on February 18, 2015, 05:08:41 PM
im f@cking optomistic  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on February 18, 2015, 05:29:29 PM
Crouch will score, I just hope TinyEars does too.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on February 18, 2015, 05:39:31 PM
Sat 21 Feb 2015 - Villa Park



Why have they moved the kick off time to 2015?

It can't be on the tellybox shirley?

Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on February 18, 2015, 05:50:23 PM
I'm going for a draw, just down to the fact that they got a whipping last week, so will sit right back and be defensive, and these games tend to be a draw anyway.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on February 18, 2015, 06:17:14 PM
 think you can safely bet TS has targetted this one for a win so expecting nothing less than a no fear winning performance....
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Quiet Lion on February 18, 2015, 06:19:12 PM
0-2

All optimism will evaporate and relegation will seem even more certain.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on February 18, 2015, 06:30:54 PM
Don't care as long as we win!
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 18, 2015, 06:33:26 PM
Stoke will be missing lots of players for this one, Hughes will have a makeshift defence and won't have a clue what side Sherwood will put out. Add to that a roaring Villa Park, the lads free to express themselves, confidence rediscovered, I can't see anything but a Villa win.

1-0
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on February 18, 2015, 06:34:11 PM
Us 1 Them 1
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 18, 2015, 06:38:08 PM
Think will be a nerve jangling 1-0 win.
Be interesting to see his team selection and formation.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 18, 2015, 07:07:36 PM
Really is important we win.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Monty on February 18, 2015, 07:09:32 PM
We need at the very least to play aggressively, score a goal or two and not lose. Obviously, we pretty much need to win every match, but at the very least we need to carry on the momentum from the second half against Leicester.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 18, 2015, 07:21:54 PM
aah retracting already I see

Be prepared for a massive bout of hypocrisy from him when it ends up only 5-0
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 18, 2015, 07:30:32 PM
I'll be invading the pitch and throwing my ticket at Mr Sherwood if it's only 5-0!
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 18, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
I'll be invading the pitch and throwing my ticket at Mr Sherwood if it's only 5-0!

From the Upper Trinity? Bring a parachute or some form of abseiling gear, then.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 18, 2015, 07:37:45 PM
I'll be invading the pitch and throwing my ticket at Mr Sherwood if it's only 5-0!

From the Upper Trinity? Bring a parachute or some form of abseiling gear, then.

I'll drop you over first to cushion my landing.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on February 18, 2015, 07:42:32 PM
I will happily take a solid 1-0!



With the renewed hope and optimism around us at the moment I look forward to a repeat of that Sunderland game! :D

Over to you Captain Ron....
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 18, 2015, 07:47:54 PM
My guess on sherwoods first team selection

----------------Guzan -------------------
Hutton.    Vlaar (c). Clark.  Cissoko

Bacuna.   Delph.  Cleverly.   Sinclair. 

            Benteke.   Weimann.   
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 18, 2015, 08:11:01 PM
My guess on sherwoods first team selection

----------------Guzan -------------------
Hutton.    Vlaar (c). Clark.  Cissoko

Bacuna.   Delph.  Cleverly.   Sinclair. 

            Benteke.   Weimann.

I don't know much about other clubs these days, but I'm assuming Stuurk have a midfield of some description. I'd love a four like that playing in front of Westwood or Sanchez, buzzing around an in-form Benteke. But we all know the big fella's not been at his best of late, so I reckon he'll go with your two up top, and Westwood in for Bacuna. Sherwood might be more adventurous than his predecessor, but he's not Keegan!
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 18, 2015, 08:14:05 PM
Stoke players definitely out: Shawcross, Muniesa, Cameron, Ireland, Bojan.

Doubts over: Pieters, Wilson, Walters, Crouch.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on February 18, 2015, 08:15:05 PM
I think we'll score goals, lots of goals, maybe even 4 goals.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: pav on February 18, 2015, 08:15:56 PM
Hope Gil is fit
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on February 18, 2015, 08:20:02 PM
Hope Gil is fit
...and plays!
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 18, 2015, 08:21:10 PM
Also scores.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 18, 2015, 08:22:57 PM
Stoke players definitely out: Shawcross, Muniesa, Cameron, Ireland, Bojan.

Doubts over: Pieters, Wilson, Walters, Crouch.
With Huth out on loan also, do they have any recognised CB's available? I've no idea about who their fringe players are
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on February 18, 2015, 08:56:09 PM
Physioroom report Gabby and Carles both out with no return date. Senderos available on 21st Feb.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 18, 2015, 09:09:21 PM
I think he will go with that team Silihill posted. 442 at got become 433. Plenty of crosses with Stokes back four shot to pieces.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on February 18, 2015, 09:12:58 PM
3-1 Villa -Benteke back on track. Sinclair and Gil very instrumental

The Tangerine Dream of creative players
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on February 18, 2015, 09:15:04 PM
But Gil out if adrenachrome is right!


Bugger!
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on February 18, 2015, 09:15:56 PM
I'll be invading the pitch and throwing my ticket at Mr Sherwood if it's only 5-0!

From the Upper Trinity? Bring a parachute or some form of abseiling gear, then.

I'll drop you over first to cushion my landing.

I'll see if us lot in the Lower Trinity can borrow the Holte End's giant flag to catch you
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on February 18, 2015, 09:30:47 PM
Villa win.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on February 18, 2015, 09:45:01 PM
There was a video on Official AVFC youtube of Sherwoods first training session and Gil was training ..... Gabby out for the season. Cruciate ligament damage ......
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on February 18, 2015, 09:49:16 PM
Don't lose! A draw wouldn't be a disaster but we need to be ruthless if Sterk are full of injuries.  2-0 to Villa. Benteke and Sherwood.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on February 18, 2015, 10:01:20 PM
i'l take nothing less than a five nill thrashing,
a hot balti pie and Rachel Riley doing a half time streak
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 18, 2015, 10:03:55 PM
There was a video on Official AVFC youtube of Sherwoods first training session and Gil was training ..... Gabby out for the season. Cruciate ligament damage ......
Whilst he ain't been good this could be a major blow. We have virtually no strikers at the club. If Benteke gets injured we are really fooked
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 18, 2015, 10:16:28 PM
i'l take nothing less than a five nill thrashing,
a hot balti pie and Rachel Riley doing a half time steak

On top of your pie? Fat bastard.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on February 18, 2015, 10:16:58 PM
Villa win. Haven't gone for one of them for months. 2-1.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on February 18, 2015, 10:29:39 PM
i'l take nothing less than a five nill thrashing,
a hot balti pie and Rachel Riley doing a half time steak

On top of your pie? Fat bastard.

I am a bit fat, I blame an underactive thyroid gland
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: DrGonzo on February 18, 2015, 10:31:19 PM
A small ray of light will do me just fine.  New manager bounce to squeak us a win 1-0 or 2-1, certainly not 3, can you imagine scoring 3??  ::)
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on February 18, 2015, 10:37:24 PM
Draw
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: caster troy on February 18, 2015, 10:58:38 PM
I said I'd return when Lambert was gone and I have been true to my word. Looking forward to seeing Villa Park in all it's glory again.

Worried about Sherwood but I'll think positive and say we'll win this one 3-1.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on February 18, 2015, 11:53:28 PM
They have injuries and I never rate Stoke hugely as an away team. With the new manager buzz I'm going 2-1.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 19, 2015, 12:28:46 AM
2 0
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 19, 2015, 12:34:54 AM
I reckon Benteke will score and him and Sherwood will do one of them cringemaking salute things.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 19, 2015, 12:45:27 AM
Ha! That's almost enough for me not to want Benteke to score. Almost.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on February 19, 2015, 12:53:11 AM
Its a game we should target to win, but I think it will end a draw which still wouldn't be a bad result against a decent side, as long as other results go our way I won't mind a score draw too much.

1-1 Vlaar for us.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 19, 2015, 01:43:48 AM
I reckon Benteke will score and him and Sherwood will do one of them cringemaking salute things.

If Benteke scores the winner I'll fucking stand up and salute if they don't. Desperate times and all that...
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 19, 2015, 01:50:31 AM
This is my prediction for the team vs Stoke.
-------------------------------GUZAN------------------------------------
HUTTON---------OKORE-----------------VLAAR-------CISSOKHO------
------------------------------WESTY--------------------------------------
-----------------CLEVERLEY--------------DELPH-------------------------
----GIL---------------------------------------------------SINCLAIR-------
---------------------------BENTEKE---------------------------------------

SUBS: GREALISH, GIVEN, WEIMANN, CLARK, GABBY, SANCHEZ, BACUNA
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on February 19, 2015, 02:25:35 AM
I reckon Benteke will score and him and Sherwood will do one of them cringemaking salute things.

Or maybe he will crush Timahs head with his giant fucking mitt like he tried to do with Little Leandro last Sunday.

(http://i1.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article8650171.ece/alternates/s1227b/JS56921168.png)
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on February 19, 2015, 04:09:49 AM
New manager bounce and 2-0 to us
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on February 19, 2015, 08:41:54 AM
This is my prediction for the team vs Stoke.
-------------------------------GUZAN------------------------------------
HUTTON---------OKORE-----------------VLAAR-------CISSOKHO------
------------------------------WESTY--------------------------------------
-----------------CLEVERLEY--------------DELPH-------------------------
----GIL---------------------------------------------------SINCLAIR-------
---------------------------BENTEKE---------------------------------------

SUBS: GREALISH, GIVEN, WEIMANN, CLARK, GABBY, SANCHEZ, BACUNA

Considering who Stoke have out this is an ideal time to play them. Reckon that midfield of midgets could be kicked around by them though.

Would like to see Sanchez and possibly Bacuna in our midfield. Big call at centre back but Okore has been at fault for a number of goals of late so should be the one to make way if Vlaar comes back in.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on February 19, 2015, 08:49:59 AM
This is my prediction for the team vs Stoke.
-------------------------------GUZAN------------------------------------
HUTTON---------OKORE-----------------VLAAR-------CISSOKHO------
------------------------------WESTY--------------------------------------
-----------------CLEVERLEY--------------DELPH-------------------------
----GIL---------------------------------------------------SINCLAIR-------
---------------------------BENTEKE---------------------------------------

SUBS: GREALISH, GIVEN, WEIMANN, CLARK, GABBY, SANCHEZ, BACUNA

Considering who Stoke have out this is an ideal time to play them. Reckon that midfield of midgets could be kicked around by them though.

Would like to see Sanchez and possibly Bacuna in our midfield. Big call at centre back but Okore has been at fault for a number of goals of late so should be the one to make way if Vlaar comes back in.

I agree and I thought Sanchez was playing quite well before being dropped anyway.   Think as the holding midfielder he has been made a scapegoat for the fact that the midfield hasn't been scoring when he has been doing his job quite well.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on February 19, 2015, 08:51:01 AM
I'd like to see Sanchez back in on Saturday, he was poor against Arsenal but wasn't the only one. Would add a lot more presence too.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on February 19, 2015, 08:53:23 AM
I reckon Benteke will score and him and Sherwood will do one of them cringemaking salute things.

I am at the point now where if we score I kiss total strangers (regardless of their sex), cry, thank God and ask my wife if we can have another child and name it after the goalscorer. I do a little wee of excitement in my pants too.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villan For Life on February 19, 2015, 08:54:26 AM
New manager effect and all that but I feel more positive about this game than I have for a Villa game in ages.

It'll probably last until about 10 minutes past three on Saturday in true Aston Villa style.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on February 19, 2015, 09:12:32 AM
Win lose or draw

I have the buzz back and cannot wait to see us play, as more than anything we will have some guts and fight - the life was sucked out of me watching that turgid shit this season and going to VP became a real chore
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on February 19, 2015, 09:20:15 AM
1-0 villa win. Benteke!!!!
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Reuben on February 19, 2015, 09:24:58 AM
Getting off to a good start is important and hopefully the thought of what happened in this fixture last year will mean we keep it up through the game!
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on February 19, 2015, 09:31:29 AM
SSN are saying that Muniesa and Shawcross are injured and Geoff Cameron is suspended. Useful having 3 centre-backs out.

Maybe Sherwood is a lucky manager, if nothing else.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on February 19, 2015, 09:32:31 AM
I'd go with
Guzan

Hutton
Okore
Clark
Cissokho

Westwood
Delph

Sinclair
Gil
Weimann

Benteke
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on February 19, 2015, 09:38:42 AM
I reckon Benteke will score and him and Sherwood will do one of them cringemaking salute things.

Or maybe he will crush Timahs head with his giant fucking mitt like he tried to do with Little Leandro last Sunday.

(http://i1.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article8650171.ece/alternates/s1227b/JS56921168.png)

Full on lol.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on February 19, 2015, 09:45:14 AM
This is my prediction for the team vs Stoke.
-------------------------------GUZAN------------------------------------
HUTTON---------OKORE-----------------VLAAR-------CISSOKHO------
------------------------------WESTY--------------------------------------
-----------------CLEVERLEY--------------DELPH-------------------------
----GIL---------------------------------------------------SINCLAIR-------
---------------------------BENTEKE---------------------------------------

SUBS: GREALISH, GIVEN, WEIMANN, CLARK, GABBY, SANCHEZ, BACUNA

Considering who Stoke have out this is an ideal time to play them. Reckon that midfield of midgets could be kicked around by them though.

Would like to see Sanchez and possibly Bacuna in our midfield. Big call at centre back but Okore has been at fault for a number of goals of late so should be the one to make way if Vlaar comes back in.

Given Villa's lack of physical presence in midfield, there's a case to be made for sticking Clark in there for this one
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on February 19, 2015, 09:48:58 AM
We'll win this. I think he'll go 4-4-2

Guzan
Hutton     Clark     Vlaar      Cissokho
Gil     Delph     Westwood     Sinclair
Weimann Benteke
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on February 19, 2015, 10:29:29 AM
I reckon Benteke will score and him and Sherwood will do one of them cringemaking salute things.

If Benteke scores the winner I'll fucking stand up and salute if they don't. Desperate times and all that...

Benteke doesn't do salutes though does he?  His trademark is the two index fingers in the air while he looks upwards to the sky.  Therefore we'll see Sherwood jogging down the touchline with his two fingers in the air looking at the sky.  I reckon that might look quite cool in a very strange way.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: simon ward 50 on February 19, 2015, 10:34:06 AM
I reckon Benteke will score and him and Sherwood will do one of them cringemaking salute things.

If Benteke scores the winner I'll fucking stand up and salute if they don't. Desperate times and all that...

Benteke doesn't do salutes though does he?  His trademark is the two index fingers in the air while he looks upwards to the sky.  Therefore we'll see Sherwood jogging down the touchline with his two fingers in the air looking at the sky.  I reckon that might look quite cool in a very strange way.

Chances are they bump into each other if they are both looking to the skies! This could get messy!
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on February 19, 2015, 10:34:18 AM
Couldn't give a fuck how Benteke or Sherwood celebrate.

As long as he bangs one in the net and we win the game
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: dekko on February 19, 2015, 11:40:21 AM
I think one thing we're going to have to get used to is conceding more goals.  The one positive thing about the way our midfielders never broke forward under Lambert was that it made us compact and fairly hard to break down.

I think this'll be a 3-2 Thrilla
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: papa lazarou on February 19, 2015, 12:08:52 PM
This is a difficult fixture and in recent games they have dominated midfield. We need a strong presence to stand in the middle of the pitch to counter this. Any of Delph, Westwood, Cleverley, Gil can't do this.
Despite Sanchez's ability to pick out an opposition player with his pinpoint, accurate passing in the Arsenal game I think he should play in this one.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on February 19, 2015, 12:19:24 PM
I reckon Benteke will score and him and Sherwood will do one of them cringemaking salute things.

If Benteke scores the winner I'll fucking stand up and salute if they don't. Desperate times and all that...
I'm in the Trinity.
I may break out into a bout of polite applause.

Crazy, me.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 19, 2015, 12:43:29 PM
I reckon Benteke will score and him and Sherwood will do one of them cringemaking salute things.

If Benteke scores the winner I'll fucking stand up and salute if they don't. Desperate times and all that...
I'm in the Trinity.
I may break out into a bout of polite applause.

Crazy, me.

Easy, now.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on February 19, 2015, 01:09:15 PM
Feel good factor back a bit at Villa Park for the Stoke game, I think we will win 2-1. Benteke and Andi.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on February 19, 2015, 01:22:43 PM
I reckon Benteke will score and him and Sherwood will do one of them cringemaking salute things.

If Benteke scores the winner I'll fucking stand up and salute if they don't. Desperate times and all that...

Benteke doesn't do salutes though does he?  His trademark is the two index fingers in the air while he looks upwards to the sky.  Therefore we'll see Sherwood jogging down the touchline with his two fingers in the air looking at the sky.  I reckon that might look quite cool in a very strange way.

Cool or Homo erotic  lol
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villafirst on February 19, 2015, 01:45:18 PM
SSN are saying that Muniesa and Shawcross are injured and Geoff Cameron is suspended. Useful having 3 centre-backs out.

Maybe Sherwood is a lucky manager, if nothing else.

Any word on Gil? It's vital that he stays fit in my opinion.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: dekko on February 19, 2015, 01:47:56 PM
SSN are saying that Muniesa and Shawcross are injured and Geoff Cameron is suspended. Useful having 3 centre-backs out.

Maybe Sherwood is a lucky manager, if nothing else.

Any word on Gil? It's vital that he stays fit in my opinion.

He's training at least, judging from the photos that went up on the OS earlier in the week
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: peter w on February 19, 2015, 02:23:52 PM
I haven't looked forward to a home game so much since we beat Chelsea at home 1-0 last season and then played...

Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: David_Nab on February 19, 2015, 04:11:28 PM
Gil and Gabby both in training and fit for the game
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: berneboy on February 19, 2015, 04:16:30 PM
from OS:

Agbonlahor and Gil both missed the FA Cup win over Leicester with tight hamstring and tight groin issues respectively.

But both players are available again as Mark Hughes's team come to B6.

Nathan Baker and Philippe Senderos are the only doubts.

Boss Tim Sherwood said: "Carles and Gabby are fit. "Gabby was on fire today. Everyone is flying and can't wait to get started. "They just all want to play and it's great to see. "Nathan is not fit. Philippe didn't train today either. Everyone else is raring to go."

There was positive news on long-term injury casualty Libor Kozak. Kozak has been out for over a year with a broken leg but now the striker is back in training with the U21 group. Sherwood suggested the forward could return to the fray before the end of the campaign. He added: "Libor is back in training. "It's non-contact and it's with the U21 squad. They are tailoring the sessions for him, which is good. "We are bedding him in nice and slowly. He has that get the confidence up because it was a nasty break and didn't heal as quickly as everyone wanted. "We are looking forward to seeing him, perhaps before the end of the season which would be good."
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on February 19, 2015, 04:22:01 PM
F*ck it, if Gil's playing I'm going for a home win.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: passport1 on February 19, 2015, 04:27:36 PM
Westwood interviewed on the official site said the training has been "electric". I cant cope with all the positivity at the moment.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on February 19, 2015, 04:30:53 PM
Guzan
Vlaar
Clark
Hutton
Cissokho
Delph
Cleverley
Sanchez
Gil
Sinclair
Benteke

That's the team I'd go for. Vlaar is better than any of our defence at bringing the ball out of defence, Clark has been in form and also I forward to seeing another tackle where he rearranges the oppositions anatomy. Sanchez and Cleverley to do the midfield donkey work. Cleverley came out the 2nd half a different player he deserves a shot. Delph pushing right on and Gil and Sinclair to get wide and also play off of Benteke. Westwood gives away too many free kicks in dangerous positions and against these fuckers I'd rather not that.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rotterdam Vetran on February 19, 2015, 04:36:45 PM
If nobhead Lerner had done this beginning of January we would be safe now.I have full confidence in TS.His whole demeanour is a breath of fresh air.He knows the premiership inside out.Cant wait for Saturday actually looking forward to going to a game for a change.COME ON YOU LIONS
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 19, 2015, 04:37:56 PM
If nobhead Lerner had done this beginning of January we would be safe now.I have full confidence in TS.His whole demeanour is a breath of fresh air.He knows the premiership inside out.Cant wait for Saturday actually looking forward to going to a game for a change.COME ON YOU LIONS

charming
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rotterdam Vetran on February 19, 2015, 04:42:47 PM
Guzan
Vlaar
Clark
Hutton
Cissokho
Delph
Cleverley
Sanchez
Gil
Sinclair
Benteke

That's the team I'd go for. Vlaar is better than any of our defence at bringing the ball out of defence, Clark has been in form and also I forward to seeing another tackle where he rearranges the oppositions anatomy. Sanchez and Cleverley to do the midfield donkey work. Cleverley came out the 2nd half a different player he deserves a shot. Delph pushing right on and Gil and Sinclair to get wide and also play off of Benteke. Westwood gives away too many free kicks in dangerous positions and against these fuckers I'd rather not that.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rotterdam Vetran on February 19, 2015, 04:48:38 PM
Can't start with Guzan,Given is a far better keeper and after Sunday deserves another start.Lamberk fucked him off after one mistake.He is still a top class keeper
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on February 19, 2015, 04:51:22 PM
I prefer Guzan, although he had a poor game against Arsenal.

Given is really poor from crosses, feel like the opposition will score with every corner.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 19, 2015, 04:54:48 PM
Can't start with Guzan,Given is a far better keeper and after Sunday deserves another start.Lamberk fucked him off after one mistake.He is still a top class keeper

Stoke are a big team. The last thing I want is to have a small keeper as they pile bodies forward into the box. And what exactly has Guzan done to be dropped? This is the same topic that came up a month or so back and then he saved our arse the very next game and everyone who doubted him realised they were being a little hasty in doing so. If you are calling on Given, then you have clearly forgotten why he was replaced in the first place, and it wasn't one game or one mistake.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on February 19, 2015, 05:01:26 PM
I haven't looked forward to a home game so much since we beat Chelsea at home 1-0 last season and then played...


Me too.  It's like our season starts Saturday which it effectively does.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rotterdam Vetran on February 19, 2015, 05:19:28 PM
Hear what you say I have never had much confidence in Guzan.He had a poor game against Arsenal(As did the rest of the team) He would just not be my choice
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on February 19, 2015, 06:17:11 PM
Guzan
Vlaar
Clark
Hutton
Cissokho
Delph
Cleverley
Sanchez
Gil
Sinclair
Benteke

That's the team I'd go for. Vlaar is better than any of our defence at bringing the ball out of defence, Clark has been in form and also I forward to seeing another tackle where he rearranges the oppositions anatomy. Sanchez and Cleverley to do the midfield donkey work. Cleverley came out the 2nd half a different player he deserves a shot. Delph pushing right on and Gil and Sinclair to get wide and also play off of Benteke. Westwood gives away too many free kicks in dangerous positions and against these fuckers I'd rather not that.

Any ideas on the formation Sherwood favours?
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on February 19, 2015, 06:20:38 PM
from OS:

Agbonlahor and Gil both missed the FA Cup win over Leicester with tight hamstring and tight groin issues respectively.

But both players are available again as Mark Hughes's team come to B6.

Nathan Baker and Philippe Senderos are the only doubts.

Boss Tim Sherwood said: "Carles and Gabby are fit. "Gabby was on fire today. Everyone is flying and can't wait to get started. "They just all want to play and it's great to see. "Nathan is not fit. Philippe didn't train today either. Everyone else is raring to go."

There was positive news on long-term injury casualty Libor Kozak. Kozak has been out for over a year with a broken leg but now the striker is back in training with the U21 group. Sherwood suggested the forward could return to the fray before the end of the campaign. He added: "Libor is back in training. "It's non-contact and it's with the U21 squad. They are tailoring the sessions for him, which is good. "We are bedding him in nice and slowly. He has that get the confidence up because it was a nasty break and didn't heal as quickly as everyone wanted. "We are looking forward to seeing him, perhaps before the end of the season which would be good."

Great news about Kozak.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 19, 2015, 06:22:33 PM
I have a feeling Given may keep his place after that world class save last weekend. As will Clark after that tackle (okore needs to regroup himself).
Great news about Gil and even Gabby.
I think Sinclair will score the winner in this.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on February 19, 2015, 06:43:35 PM
Gabby is "on fire" in training today so expecting several scuffed passes and a bent corner flag come Saturday.

2-1 Villa
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave on February 19, 2015, 07:38:05 PM
Can't start with Guzan,Given is a far better keeper and after Sunday deserves another start.Lamberk fucked him off after one mistake.He is still a top class keeper
That's one of the craziest things I've seen posted on here.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on February 19, 2015, 07:56:45 PM
I'm a big Guzan fan, I read one of his stats regarding crosses collected and it was head and shoulders above EVERY other keeper in the division but he hasn't been in the best form this season, he's still the number 1 but cannot take it for granted. One of the best things about a new man coming in is that there are no positions locked down anymore, everyone has a chance and has to take it, no more swanning around the pitch.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 19, 2015, 08:17:42 PM
Hear what you say I have never had much confidence in Guzan.He had a poor game against Arsenal(As did the rest of the team) He would just not be my choice

Bloody hell, if you were dropping people on the basis of being crap against Arsenal, we'd be back with Tommy Docherty's washing line with 11 shirts hanging on it.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 19, 2015, 08:50:34 PM
Last week we saw the best and worst of Given.

That world class save, then that scrambled fumble he just about got away with.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 19, 2015, 08:55:51 PM
Guzan > Given
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on February 19, 2015, 11:25:34 PM
Given is a good back up option but that is all.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on February 19, 2015, 11:40:16 PM
Given looks good diving about for the cameras, but Guzan still looks the all-round better bet to me.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on February 20, 2015, 07:06:09 AM
Sherwood tended to play a 442 at Spurs. And not too many defensive midfielders. I wonder if he'll go down that route. Something like

Guzan - Hutton vlaar Clark cissokho -  cleverley Sanchez Delph Gil - gabby

People seem pretty optimistic about sherwood and I think he may well give us the gee up we need. But let's remember this is a guy with almost no managerial experience, reputed not to be a great tactician or coach, without his trusted coaches and recruiting coaches with pretty minimal experience instead. And we've won two games out of 21

We really need to pick up quite a few points in our next five games or we're in a lot of trouble

I'll be at a wedding full of villa fans and I really think this is a massive game. Hoping for a good crowd
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on February 20, 2015, 07:13:38 AM
I woould go with Sinclair up top with Benteke, Gil floating around behind and Cleverley, Westwood, Delph making a midfield 4. Vlaar Clark Hutton Cissokho picks itself. Anyone other than Stoke i would have kept Shay in, but Guzan should come back in for his command of the box.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on February 20, 2015, 07:20:36 AM
I woould go with Sinclair up top with Benteke, Gil floating around behind and Cleverley, Westwood, Delph making a midfield 4. Vlaar Clark Hutton Cissokho picks itself. Anyone other than Stoke i would have kept Shay in, but Guzan should come back in for his command of the box.

I think sherwood would go for width over a diamond

Just looked at the fantasy football site for stoke. They've got massive injury problems in defence. Only four defenders rated as fully fit and I've not heard of two of them. Shawcross definitely out

Could be the perfect game to get back to some football basics. Not particularly sophisticated but gabby and benteke up front. Maybe bacun a wide to get crosses in with Gil the other side. If he's feeling adventurous we could see Delph and cleverly who must have impressed v Leicester

Could all go horribly wrong tho. Stoke are strong in midfield and give lie to the view that it would have been impossible to produce a better side without splashing the cash
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on February 20, 2015, 07:32:10 AM
I'd like to see two out of Westwood, delph, cleverly and Sanchez. I'd prefer Sanchez and delph.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on February 20, 2015, 08:26:19 AM
I think we are all eager to see Sherwood's first team selection. I hope he will play Carlos Sanchez and Carles Gil. Its possible he might have a shock in store. Delph could find he is on the bench and unfortunately (for us) Agbonlahor could find he is on the pitch!

I dont want to see Given in goal at all. Guzan has lost a bit of his previous excellent form but commands his area in a much more confident manner.

I think he will stick with Vlaar and Clark and will use Gil, Sanchez and Westwood in the middle, with Sinclair  floating around, and Benteke and Agbonlahor up front

or something entirely different!
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 20, 2015, 08:30:04 AM
Gil on one side Sinclair the other with Delph and a n other in the middle
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on February 20, 2015, 08:51:47 AM
Gil on one side Sinclair the other with Delph and a n other in the middle

What? a balanced midfield? What a crazy idea
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on February 20, 2015, 09:13:04 AM
My confidence that everything points to us winning this game is, perversely, making me very nervous about us not doing so...
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on February 20, 2015, 09:40:11 AM
My confidence that everything points to us winning this game is, perversely, making me very nervous about us not doing so...
Also, Lawro has predicted us to win 2-0
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: bob on February 20, 2015, 09:44:24 AM
We will crush them
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on February 20, 2015, 09:46:45 AM
We now have to start winning and this is the sort of match we must win between now and the end of the season.  I reckon a barnstorming first half when we'll score early and get a second, followed be a nervy second when we revert to type.  We might hold on for a 2-1 win
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on February 20, 2015, 09:53:14 AM
February and March are critical, as we have murderous games (apart from QPR at home) in April.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on February 20, 2015, 09:56:40 AM
My confidence that everything points to us winning this game is, perversely, making me very nervous about us not doing so...
Also, Lawro has predicted us to win 2-0

Did you see that Carl Fogarty (from Blackburn) has got Chelsea down to beat Burnley 17-0?
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ROBBO on February 20, 2015, 10:00:03 AM
We now have to start winning and this is the sort of match we must win between now and the end of the season.  I reckon a barnstorming first half when we'll score early and get a second, followed be a nervy second when we revert to type.  We might hold on for a 2-1 win

Somehow i don't think this manager will allow them to revert.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on February 20, 2015, 10:34:47 AM
--------Guzan--------

Hutton Vlaar Clark Cissokho

----Westwood Delph----

--Sinclair Cleverley Gil--

-------Benteke-------
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 20, 2015, 11:29:36 AM
My confidence that everything points to us winning this game is, perversely, making me very nervous about us not doing so...
Also, Lawro has predicted us to win 2-0

Did you see that Carl Fogarty (from Blackburn) has got Chelsea down to beat Burnley 17-0?

Ha, and what do you think the bloosers say every time we play?
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on February 20, 2015, 11:31:55 AM
My confidence that everything points to us winning this game is, perversely, making me very nervous about us not doing so...
Also, Lawro has predicted us to win 2-0

Did you see that Carl Fogarty (from Blackburn) has got Chelsea down to beat Burnley 17-0?

Ha, and what do you think the bloosers say every time we play?

Probably something along the lines of "Wibble wibble ug ug where is my carer SOTV KRO wibble wibble ug ug."
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on February 20, 2015, 11:35:51 AM
--------Guzan--------

Hutton Vlaar Clark Cissokho

----Westwood Delph----

--Sinclair Cleverley Gil--

-------Benteke-------

Not enough defensive cover in that lineup.  Stoke are decent on the counter nowadays and Sanchez is one of the better passers of the ball in our side (wouldn't be hard to be fair) so he has to play for me.  How about having him and Delph as a central pairing, but Sanchez playing just behind Delph?  That way the better tackiler is in front of the back four, and our best midfield creater (again not saying much) is further forward?

Am all for Sinclair and Gil as the wingers.   Both have made promising starts to that Villa Park careers and at least are natural wingers.  If I see CNO in a Villa shirt again I will vomit...
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villafirst on February 20, 2015, 01:10:35 PM
We now have to start winning and this is the sort of match we must win between now and the end of the season.  I reckon a barnstorming first half when we'll score early and get a second, followed be a nervy second when we revert to type.  We might hold on for a 2-1 win

No, reverting to type is sitting deeper and deeper as Lambert's formation - especially when protecting a one goal lead. That used to drive me nuts!.......I think you'll find that Sherwood will encourage his players to pour forward all game.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on February 20, 2015, 01:24:34 PM
--------Guzan--------

Hutton Vlaar Clark Cissokho

----Westwood Delph----

--Sinclair Cleverley Gil--

-------Benteke-------


Just a couple of changes to that team for me:

 --------Guzan--------

Hutton Vlaar Clark Cissokho

----Cleverley Delph----

--Bacuna   Gil    Sinclair--

-------Benteke-------
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on February 20, 2015, 02:16:14 PM
4-4-1-1 for me

I think Gil is wasted out wide, stick him in the hole behind Benteke and let them work their magic.

----------------------Guzan-----------------------

--------Hutton Vlaar Clark Cissokho---------

----- Bacuna Westwood Delph Sinclair ----

-----------------------Gil--------------------------

-------------------Benteke-----------------------
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: pooligan on February 20, 2015, 02:20:06 PM
Play like we did in the first half last week and we will struggle,play like we did in the second half lat week and i think we will win. As always when we play these clayheads Crouch always worries me,keep him quiet and we will dominate the play .Villa 2 Stoke 1


Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on February 20, 2015, 02:38:11 PM
I'm feeling positive about this so I reckon 2-1 to us.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ClaretAndBlueBlood on February 20, 2015, 03:23:53 PM
0-0
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: CJ on February 20, 2015, 03:26:57 PM
Really need to win this, and after initial reservations about Sherwood it's great to hear a Villa manager say the players are raring to go and he intends to play attacking, high tempo football, and if players don't give their all they don't play. It will be a very welcome sight compared to months of pedestrian possession with no purpose. I'm actually looking forward to going for a change.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: supertom on February 20, 2015, 03:31:23 PM
Really need to win this, and after initial reservations about Sherwood it's great to hear a Villa manager say the players are raring to go and he intends to play attacking, high tempo football, and if players don't give their all they don't play. It will be a very welcome sight compared to months of pedestrian possession with no purpose. I'm actually looking forward to going for a change.
I particularly liked one comment he made, about telling our players not to be afraid of losing. We've got to set our stall out to try and win games. We rarely seemed to do that under Lambert, or McLeish for that matter. Play to win. It won't always pay off, but with the quality of player we have, I'd like to think we could establish a solid mid-table run of form.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 20, 2015, 03:51:08 PM
I'm expecting Stoke to be very organised but the number of missing players will probably end up parking the bus as we pile in the pressure. An early goal for us could see us completely stuff them, so I'm expecting Hughes to try and frustrate us from the first minute.

Selection wish I'd like to see him go with 4-1-2-1-2, Guzan back, Hutton, Vlaar, Clark and Cissokho across the back, Sanchez holding, Westwood and Delph box to box, Gil in the hole and Benteke and Gabby in attack.

We can't leave Benteke up front by himself again. For too many games he's had two central defenders on him and we've made their lives very easy. Get Gil and Gabby running at their defence, going wide if necessary but always making sure we have at least 3 players getting in their box.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 20, 2015, 04:07:26 PM
The signs are good. I can't make the game which should point to a barnstorming home win.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 20, 2015, 04:08:37 PM
I'm really intrigued to see how differently we will start the game versus how we had done so under Lambert. It pains me even to think about those games where 2 minutes in, and the position stats being 90:10 against you just knew the opposition goal was coming. Everton away immediately comes to mind for some reason.

Not only do I want to see us come out of the blocks quickly but get shots on goal and players following up. The fans are going to be engaged from off purely through a heightened sense of expectation, so the bubble will be burst quickly if for all the talk the team knock it about as we have of late and not create chances. I am also very curious as to how our midfielders get into the box to help, the role the wingers will play and ultimately the chances created for Benteke.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: IAmTheOneIanOlney on February 20, 2015, 04:10:25 PM
I'm looking forward to this game and confident too - years since I've been able to say that. I'm confident mainly because it looks like we have a proactive manager at last, someone who'll make the changes if and when they need making and can still affect the course of the game.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on February 20, 2015, 04:11:38 PM
My only concern is Sherwood seems to be openly telling Hughes in advance what our tactics will be. Not sure thats the smart move to be honest.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 20, 2015, 04:13:26 PM
We need to be patient. Rome wasn't built in a day. I'd take a scrappy drab 1-0 home win quite frankly .
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 20, 2015, 04:19:48 PM
My only concern is Sherwood seems to be openly telling Hughes in advance what our tactics will be. Not sure thats the smart move to be honest.

is he? Doesn't everyone know that we would want to get the ball to our best forward and attack Stoke? He's not revealing how we are going to do that specifically.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: passport1 on February 20, 2015, 04:46:14 PM
Stoke are probably the first team coming to Villa Park for some time that do not fancy their chances.

For that alone I am grateful.


Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 20, 2015, 04:47:15 PM
Looking forward to doing the double over them.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave on February 20, 2015, 04:51:00 PM
They seem to have a fair few injury/suspention issues.

Shawcross, Bojan, Cameron, Muniesa and Odemwingie definitely out, Ireland, Crouch, Pieters, Wilson and Walters all doubtful.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 20, 2015, 05:19:08 PM
They seem to have a fair few injury/suspention issues.

Shawcross, Bojan, Cameron, Muniesa and Odemwingie definitely out, Ireland, Crouch, Pieters, Wilson and Walters all doubtful.
Good news indeed.
Who will play CB as Huth is out on loan aswell
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SashasGrandad on February 20, 2015, 05:21:02 PM
They seem to have a fair few injury/suspention issues.

Shawcross, Bojan, Cameron, Muniesa and Odemwingie definitely out, Ireland, Crouch, Pieters, Wilson and Walters all doubtful.
Good news indeed.
Who will play CB as Huth is out on loan aswell

It would be fun if it was Ireland - the Beast might get back on the goal scorers list.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: steamer on February 20, 2015, 07:02:46 PM
what happened to the Stoke fan that used to post on here ?
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: berneboy on February 20, 2015, 07:07:36 PM
They seem to have a fair few injury/suspention issues.

Shawcross, Bojan, Cameron, Muniesa and Odemwingie definitely out, Ireland, Crouch, Pieters, Wilson and Walters all doubtful.

STOKE CITY   8   M Muniesa   Hamstring Injury   4th Apr 15   
        J Walters   Knee Injury   21st Feb 15   
        S Ireland   Hamstring Injury   21st Feb 15   
        M Wilson   Groin Strain   21st Feb 15   
        R Shawcross   Groin Strain   28th Feb 15   
        B Krkic   ACL Knee Injury   Sep 15   
        E Pieters   Inguinal Hernia   21st Feb 15   
        P Odemwingie   ACL Knee Injury   Jun 15
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on February 20, 2015, 07:09:26 PM
They seem to have a fair few injury/suspention issues.

Shawcross, Bojan, Cameron, Muniesa and Odemwingie definitely out, Ireland, Crouch, Pieters, Wilson and Walters all doubtful.

We could do with Crouchy not being fit to play. If this proves to be true I would really fancy our chances.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on February 20, 2015, 08:01:54 PM
Looking forward to doing the double over them.
When and who was the last team we did that against?
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on February 20, 2015, 08:14:49 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/feb/20/aston-villa-stoke-city-match-preview

The guardian's predicted line ups are pretty hopeless but the link above does reveal the injuries stoke have at centre back. If they line up like that i'd really hope we could cause them a few problems with some relatively direct play and good movement

We spent ages bemoaning MON style football but I think that could be the order of the day tomorrow
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on February 20, 2015, 08:20:11 PM
For the first time in such a long time, I am looking forward to going the match tomorrow.

1 more sleep !!
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on February 20, 2015, 08:38:51 PM
I'd go for:
                          Guzan
Hutton            Ron       Clarke           Ally

Gill         Sanchez           Delph         Gabby
             
                  Benteke       Wiemann
                         
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 20, 2015, 08:44:09 PM
Looking forward to doing the double over them.
When and who was the last team we did that against?

Well we've beaten Leicester twice this season if that counts ;)
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 20, 2015, 08:57:43 PM
Looking forward to doing the double over them.
When and who was the last team we did that against?

Norwich last season.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on February 20, 2015, 09:03:59 PM
Very positive about tomorrow.

Hope Crouch is out - he's always a handful.
Hope Walters is out too - never really rated him but he seems to have scored more than his fair share this season.
If they're all struck down by a mystery bug and we beat them 1-0 I'll be happy!


UTV!
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on February 20, 2015, 09:04:15 PM
Looking forward to doing the double over them.
When and who was the last team we did that against?

Norwich last season.
Oh yeah, it was. We would not of had any doubles if he'd of stayed I'm sure.
Let's hope we complete the double tomorrow and enjoy the rest of the season. I have a feeling we will.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: pav on February 20, 2015, 09:05:32 PM
Looking forward to it myself ,which best boozer for pre match ? Got both my sons with me ...16 & 9 year old
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 20, 2015, 09:07:43 PM
Wollscheld & Texeira at CB ??
We really have to win this game
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 20, 2015, 10:27:50 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/feb/20/aston-villa-stoke-city-match-preview

The guardian's predicted line ups are pretty hopeless but the link above does reveal the injuries stoke have at centre back. If they line up like that i'd really hope we could cause them a few problems with some relatively direct play and good movement

We spent ages bemoaning MON style football but I think that could be the order of the day tomorrow

Wilson and Pieters trained today so think they'll both play although Pieters ain't featured since January 10th so won't be match sharp.

There are good and bad times to play teams in seasons and this is a good time to play Stoke so I see this as crucial we get a win and get the ball rolling for Sherwood.

If we don't win then that puts pressure on us to get 7-8 points from Sunderland, Newcastle, WBA and Swansea. If we're not on 30 points by end of March I struggle to see us staying up with the fixtures we have left to play after that.

Still new manager syndrome and all that, 2-0 us.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on February 20, 2015, 10:28:27 PM
Looking forward to it myself ,which best boozer for pre match ? Got both my sons with me ...16 & 9 year old

You need a very slack landlord!

Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 20, 2015, 10:30:08 PM
Looking forward to it myself ,which best boozer for pre match ? Got both my sons with me ...16 & 9 year old

Better to go to a restaurant which lets families in.

That Hungry horse in Stockland Green isn't too far away from VP.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 20, 2015, 10:32:37 PM
Looking forward to it myself ,which best boozer for pre match ? Got both my sons with me ...16 & 9 year old
Villa Tav lets kids in
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: pav on February 20, 2015, 10:41:31 PM
Was thinking Aston tavern next to leisure centre
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 20, 2015, 10:41:38 PM
Quote
Tom Cleverley and Ashley Westwood axed as Tim Sherwood stamps his mark on Aston Villa
New manager wastes no time shaking things up at Villa Park as his race for Premier League survival begins
      
John Percy
10:30PM GMT 20 Feb 2015

Tim Sherwood has instantly displayed his ruthless streak by axing Ashley Westwood as he prepares to begin a new era at Aston Villa.
Westwood was one of previous manager Paul Lambert’s key players but the midfielder has been dropped for Saturday’s Premier League game against Stoke, with Sherwood insisting his team need more height.

Tom Cleverley is also understood to have been told he will be on the bench in a clear message that Sherwood will take no notice of reputations in his bid to save Villa from relegation.

Villa are in the bottom three but Sherwood is determined to build on his brief spell at Tottenham, in which he secured the best win ratio of any manager in the club’s Premier League era.

Despite the favourable statistics, Sherwood’s reign lasted less than six months before he was dismissed by chairman Daniel Levy and his appointment at Villa is still viewed in some quarters as a gamble.

But he insists his achievements at Spurs deserve more respect and still stand up to scrutiny, largely due to his work with young players including Harry Kane.

“I think [Mauricio] Pochettino has done a really good job there, but my record is still up there to be shot at,” he said
“He’s inherited a good bunch of young players who were developed by myself. It’s good for me - I left a bit of a legacy there with those young players.
“If I hadn’t resisted the club wanting to loan him out last January, he wouldn’t be Harry Kane now.

“But all I’m concerned with now is Villa and doing well here. I want to be a success - not only for this football club but for myself, but perhaps because there's a few other chairmen that might give young managers an opportunity.

“The football club has found itself in a difficult situation at the moment. But the lads are up for the fight to get the club out of it.”

Try telling the players and staff at Bodymoor Heath this week that Sherwood’s appointment has been a gamble. His presence has had a galvanising effect on the squad, removing the stench of failure that had permeated Bodymoor Heath, and it is impossible not to be impressed by his positivity.

Earlier this week Westwood ironically claimed training sessions have been “electric” while another admitted he felt “ten feet tall” after a one-on-one chat with the new manager.

The return of Kevin MacDonald as Sherwood’s No 2 also appears a masterstroke while Tom Fox, the chief executive, told a Villa supporters’ meeting on Thursday that Sherwood ticked all the boxes for the short and long-term aims of the club.

Ron Vlaar, Villa’s captain, said: “Since the new manager has come in the energy level of the squad is higher, for obvious reasons; everybody has a new chance.

“Everybody feels like they can get into the team if they do well in training and that has been really good. Every manager wants things done in a different way so we have been learning this week how the manager wants things done.

“Sometimes new things are good for the mind, it brings some freshness and it can help the mentality of the players.

“When a new manager comes in and makes changes you need to learn what he wants you to do so communication is a big part of that. He talks a lot and tells us what we should be doing.”

Sherwood has certainly had a constructive week. On Monday, hours after his first press conference, he drove to Burton Albion’s Pirelli Stadium to watch Villa’s under-21s lose against Derby County.

The following day he met chairman Randy Lerner for the first time and then held a number of one-on-ones with his players.
But he has been counting down the hours until 3pm on Saturday, when he starts his revolution against Stoke.

He spent much of his final weeks at Spurs sat in the stands, so will he be in the technical area?

“I’ll look at the weather and see what’s what but no, I’ll be in the dugout. I’ll slip in there after a 100 yard walk down the touchline. I can’t exactly duck in, can I?

“That walk from the dug-out to the tunnel must feel longer when you lose. I am worried about losing but I’m the only one who can be – not those players.

"We know we're running out of time and we need to get the best out of this group as soon as possible and that's what we intend to do.”
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on February 20, 2015, 10:48:59 PM
Looking forward to it myself ,which best boozer for pre match ? Got both my sons with me ...16 & 9 year old
For an hour before the game go to VP.
The kids can enjoy the VP experience a bit more, you can have a beer for about £4 and the kids can have snacks/drinks etc. Expensive I know, but at least you are already there and you and the kids can take in the Villa experience - the approach by Aston Park itself is pretty unique. Part of being a Villa fan. Depending on which stand you're in the pre-match experience differs. I love the views over the pitch from being in The Holte concourse area. From the Trinity you see nothing until you are in the "auditorium" itself.
Have a great day pav!
Bring good fortune with you!
UTV!
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on February 20, 2015, 10:49:40 PM
Was thinking Aston tavern next to leisure centre
£3 to get in mate!
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: FrankyH on February 20, 2015, 10:57:08 PM
Quote
Tom Cleverley and Ashley Westwood axed as Tim Sherwood stamps his mark on Aston Villa
New manager wastes no time shaking things up at Villa Park as his race for Premier League survival begins
      
John Percy
10:30PM GMT 20 Feb 2015

Tim Sherwood has instantly displayed his ruthless streak by axing Ashley Westwood as he prepares to begin a new era at Aston Villa.
Westwood was one of previous manager Paul Lambert’s key players but the midfielder has been dropped for Saturday’s Premier League game against Stoke, with Sherwood insisting his team need more height.

Tom Cleverley is also understood to have been told he will be on the bench in a clear message that Sherwood will take no notice of reputations in his bid to save Villa from relegation.

Villa are in the bottom three but Sherwood is determined to build on his brief spell at Tottenham, in which he secured the best win ratio of any manager in the club’s Premier League era.

Despite the favourable statistics, Sherwood’s reign lasted less than six months before he was dismissed by chairman Daniel Levy and his appointment at Villa is still viewed in some quarters as a gamble.

But he insists his achievements at Spurs deserve more respect and still stand up to scrutiny, largely due to his work with young players including Harry Kane.

“I think [Mauricio] Pochettino has done a really good job there, but my record is still up there to be shot at,” he said
“He’s inherited a good bunch of young players who were developed by myself. It’s good for me - I left a bit of a legacy there with those young players.
“If I hadn’t resisted the club wanting to loan him out last January, he wouldn’t be Harry Kane now.

“But all I’m concerned with now is Villa and doing well here. I want to be a success - not only for this football club but for myself, but perhaps because there's a few other chairmen that might give young managers an opportunity.

“The football club has found itself in a difficult situation at the moment. But the lads are up for the fight to get the club out of it.”

Try telling the players and staff at Bodymoor Heath this week that Sherwood’s appointment has been a gamble. His presence has had a galvanising effect on the squad, removing the stench of failure that had permeated Bodymoor Heath, and it is impossible not to be impressed by his positivity.

Earlier this week Westwood ironically claimed training sessions have been “electric” while another admitted he felt “ten feet tall” after a one-on-one chat with the new manager.

The return of Kevin MacDonald as Sherwood’s No 2 also appears a masterstroke while Tom Fox, the chief executive, told a Villa supporters’ meeting on Thursday that Sherwood ticked all the boxes for the short and long-term aims of the club.

Ron Vlaar, Villa’s captain, said: “Since the new manager has come in the energy level of the squad is higher, for obvious reasons; everybody has a new chance.

“Everybody feels like they can get into the team if they do well in training and that has been really good. Every manager wants things done in a different way so we have been learning this week how the manager wants things done.

“Sometimes new things are good for the mind, it brings some freshness and it can help the mentality of the players.

“When a new manager comes in and makes changes you need to learn what he wants you to do so communication is a big part of that. He talks a lot and tells us what we should be doing.”

Sherwood has certainly had a constructive week. On Monday, hours after his first press conference, he drove to Burton Albion’s Pirelli Stadium to watch Villa’s under-21s lose against Derby County.

The following day he met chairman Randy Lerner for the first time and then held a number of one-on-ones with his players.
But he has been counting down the hours until 3pm on Saturday, when he starts his revolution against Stoke.

He spent much of his final weeks at Spurs sat in the stands, so will he be in the technical area?

“I’ll look at the weather and see what’s what but no, I’ll be in the dugout. I’ll slip in there after a 100 yard walk down the touchline. I can’t exactly duck in, can I?

“That walk from the dug-out to the tunnel must feel longer when you lose. I am worried about losing but I’m the only one who can be – not those players.

"We know we're running out of time and we need to get the best out of this group as soon as possible and that's what we intend to do.”

"Tonight Mathew I am going to be John Gregory"

Hope he has the same effect, if only for the short term to see us over the line.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: FrankyH on February 20, 2015, 11:12:16 PM
I was thinking today about when the 11 first team players know that they have got the nod.I always presumed it was at about 1:30pm in the dressing room.I am not sure Sherwood would tell the press who he has dropped the day before a game.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on February 20, 2015, 11:12:53 PM
So he's announced his team 16 hours before the game?
Why would he do that?
Not saying it won't happen, but.....
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 20, 2015, 11:13:27 PM
John Percy certainly does seem to have his ear.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 20, 2015, 11:16:10 PM
I stopped reading after "my record is up there to be shot at".
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: steffo on February 20, 2015, 11:17:30 PM
For me, it's been the first time in over 3 years that we believe we can can win, rather than hoping. It will be close but the crowd and attacking football will seal 3 points.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 20, 2015, 11:31:40 PM
John Percy certainly does seem to have his ear.

Exactly. Bullshit reporting.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: pav on February 20, 2015, 11:35:03 PM
Looking forward to it myself ,which best boozer for pre match ? Got both my sons with me ...16 & 9 year old
For an hour before the game go to VP.
The kids can enjoy the VP experience a bit more, you can have a beer for about £4 and the kids can have snacks/drinks etc. Expensive I know, but at least you are already there and you and the kids can take in the Villa experience - the approach by Aston Park itself is pretty unique. Part of being a Villa fan. Depending on which stand you're in the pre-match experience differs. I love the views over the pitch from being in The Holte concourse area. From the Trinity you see nothing until you are in the "auditorium" itself.
Have a great day pav!
Bring good fortune with you!
UTV!
cheers pal UTV
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 20, 2015, 11:46:28 PM
It's a crap article because I don't think he's dropped anyone. Now, he might take a horses for courses approach to some games. That's what a squad is for, but I doubt anyone has been "axed". And I certainly don't think he'd be showing his cards before he needs to tomorrow.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on February 20, 2015, 11:52:21 PM
He's already made it very clear that no player is "axed".
He will pick the team he thinks will win the game...anyone will set up differently playing v Chelsea/Hull...or the Boggies...in the cup or in the league....

No idea except he's POSITIVE.
Relief to know he thinks about things.
UTV!
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave on February 20, 2015, 11:59:56 PM
Quote
Villa are in the bottom three but Sherwood is determined to build on his brief spell at Tottenham, in which he secured the best win ratio of any manager in the club’s Premier League era.
Is this just one of those invented statistics which is going to be repeated forever?

How is Sherwood's 50% ratio with Spurs (which is perfectly commendable, and not something to be criticised) better than Villas-Boas' 55% and Mauricio Pochettino's (current) 57.5%?
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on February 21, 2015, 12:13:55 AM
Another thing to consider is that this fixture last season was a bit of a turning point for us.   We came into it after two very good wins against Norwich and Chelsea (did we really play three home games in a row? :o) and so hopes were high.  We even took an early lead, but then Stoke killed us and we never recovered for the rest of the season which led us to almost go down.  And again this time because it is Sherwood's first game and because it has been so long since we got a even a point in the league then the result may prove crucial.

Can we stopped buying into all this press speak and going on about Sherwood.  Most people agree that he is a gamble, but most also agree that he could have a lot to offer.  Lets just see where the penny drops.  You can't compare his five months at Spurs to either AVB or MP's reigns so far as he had nothing to lose, and already knew the club, etc... We've been through this people ::)
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 21, 2015, 12:14:17 AM
John Percy certainly does seem to have his ear.

Exactly. Bullshit reporting.

Aren't you saying different things?

Woodhall seems to be suggesting there's a connection between Sherwood and John Percy. You're suggesting the opposite.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on February 21, 2015, 12:21:18 AM
John Percy certainly does seem to have his ear.

Exactly. Bullshit reporting.

Aren't you saying different things?

Woodhall seems to be suggesting there's a connection between Sherwood and John Percy. You're suggesting the opposite.

I am confused now :-) . Actually thought Cleverley played well last weekend but 4-4-2 and a Sanchez (not Arsenal displays) and Delph would be good for me
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on February 21, 2015, 12:23:03 AM
The Daily Heil is running with story also. Timah - "You will obey my authoritah!

Heil (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2962155/Tim-Sherwood-wield-axe-Ashley-Westwood-new-Aston-Villa-boss-begins-stamp-authority-club.html)

Quote
Tim Sherwood to wield the axe on Ashley Westwood as the new Aston Villa boss begins to stamp his authority on the club

Tim Sherwood plans to drop Ashley Westwood for the clash against Stoke
The new Aston Villa boss takes charge for his first game on Saturday
Tom Cleverley's place is also in doubt but Carlos Sanchez could return


By SAMI MOKBEL FOR THE DAILY MAIL

Tim Sherwood was last night planning to make a significant move away from the Paul Lambert era by axing Ashley Westwood for Saturday's clash against Stoke.

The new Aston Villa manager takes charge of his first game at the club after sitting in the stands for the FA Cup win over Leicester last Sunday.

And, as of Friday night, one of his first big decisions was to drop Westwood, who was a key player for Lambert, from the starting XI.

Sportsmail understands Carlos Sanchez is in line to replace the 24-year-old in midfield.

Westwood was an integral part of Lambert's plans, the Scot even tipping the 24-year-old for an England call-up.

Tom Cleverley is also sweating on his place in Sherwood's team for the visit of Mark Hughes's side.

The midfielder was dropped for Villa's last league game against Hull and Sherwood looks likely to keep Cleverley on the bench this afternoon.

Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on February 21, 2015, 12:35:01 AM
John Percy certainly does seem to have his ear.

In the second half he was better (as were most of the team), but I don't know if we should get excited by one half decent display.  I would expect Sherwood if he has anything about him to say to the likes of Westwood, Cleverly etc, that now is your time to shine.  If you don't do it now then others will be taking your place.

Hope that report is true about Sanchez coming in for Westwood.  Actually don't mind Westwood, but he is going through a bad patch right now and Sanchez has been one of the better players this season.

Exactly. Bullshit reporting.

Aren't you saying different things?

Woodhall seems to be suggesting there's a connection between Sherwood and John Percy. You're suggesting the opposite.

I am confused now :-) . Actually thought Cleverley played well last weekend but 4-4-2 and a Sanchez (not Arsenal displays) and Delph would be good for me
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: GarTomas on February 21, 2015, 12:43:17 AM
Manager rotates squad.... Hardly being axed... (If true)
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 21, 2015, 12:51:57 AM
I thought Cleverley was OK last week, too.

However, that's pretty much the only time I've ever thought that.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on February 21, 2015, 12:58:35 AM
I thought Cleverley was OK last week, too.

However, that's pretty much the only time I've ever thought that.

Second half I thought he was positive and first time I have really thought that in a Villa shirt, so thought the new manager may have said something. If so, it would be a surprise if he was dropped.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on February 21, 2015, 01:06:00 AM
It is evident that Timah is going to a more direct style, so dropping Westwood and Cleverly who have been the chief fanny danglers under Lambo Phase 3,  has the ring of truth about it. John Percy says the reason is that Timah thinks they they are too short, though.

The long and the short of it is that The Tika Taka Tendency won't be best pleased by these developments. 

 

 
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 21, 2015, 01:56:37 AM
it's a way better article if you can use the word "axed". It's kind of boring if the article simply said Sherwood was picking the team he thought was best suited to win this game. Cleverley started the cup game but didn't start the previous league game. Not playing vs Stoke hardly constitutes getting the axe, if indeed the article is even accurate as to his intentions.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 21, 2015, 02:07:19 AM
Looking forward to it myself ,which best boozer for pre match ? Got both my sons with me ...16 & 9 year old

Sacred Heart. Free and has an outside part so the kids will be okay. And take the kids to the funzone for a while as well.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 21, 2015, 03:38:35 AM
John Percy certainly does seem to have his ear.

Exactly. Bullshit reporting.

Aren't you saying different things?

Woodhall seems to be suggesting there's a connection between Sherwood and John Percy. You're suggesting the opposite.

Sorry, thought he said he didn't have his ear. I was on a short interval watching Winter Sleep and not paying too much attention. I can't believe Sherwood has been telling journalists he's dropping Westwood, less than 24 hours before a game. Nobody is that stupid.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hillbilly on February 21, 2015, 04:56:04 AM
I stopped reading after "my record is up there to be shot at".
I got as far as 'best win ratio'.

But seriously, how many other top flight grounds have that potential walk of shame from the dug out to the tunnel? I wonder if it plays on our managers' mindsets at Villa Park...musn't lose mustn't lose mustn't lose.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on February 21, 2015, 07:04:49 AM
Old trafford has a similar walk... Doesnt affect all scottish managers..
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 21, 2015, 07:21:10 AM
The manager walk at Burnley has to be the worst. From corner flag , across the pitch to opposite Side halfway Line
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 21, 2015, 07:52:11 AM
Today's the day! Feeling very excited and optimistic, we all know it feels like we're destined today.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on February 21, 2015, 08:07:12 AM
Today's the day! Feeling very excited and optimistic, we all know it feels like we're destined today.

Yeah, big day, exciting. Hope Sterk don't burst our bubble.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on February 21, 2015, 08:45:22 AM
I think we will be more direct no question. And I'd guess we'll play two in the middle of the park and not three

It makes sense to put Sanchez and Delph up against Nzonzi I reckon

Pretty excited about the game. But we could definitely lose today. Villa have given me so many false dawns I wouldn't be that surprised if it's a complete car crash for the rest of the season
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on February 21, 2015, 08:57:31 AM
I'd go for:
                          Guzan
Hutton            Ron       Clarke           Ally

Gill         Sanchez           Delph         Gabby
             
                  Benteke       Wiemann
                         

Who are Clarke, Gill and wiemann?
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: thick_mike on February 21, 2015, 09:00:01 AM
What are the odds on a Delph red card?
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 21, 2015, 09:04:06 AM
What are the odds on a Delph red card?
Who's ref ?
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: oldtimernow on February 21, 2015, 09:25:10 AM
We start again.....(ducks for cover)    2-0
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 21, 2015, 09:25:39 AM
Its absolutely buzzing down bodymoor at the moment , thou  expect a clear out in the summer.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SashasGrandad on February 21, 2015, 09:29:04 AM
If he is going for taller players in midfield against Stoke that is not such a bad idea. I seem to remember playing against Spurs when their midfield resembled a rugby scrum front row. Think Tim was their manager then.

I can see one of his first buys will be a "bigger/stronger" midfield player which we have lacked for a long time - in today's game all the successful teams have this sort of player to protect the more creative ones. Our midfield has been too "powder puff" for ages.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 21, 2015, 09:40:41 AM
Biggest challenge today may be managing fan expectations . This is going to be very tough I reckon.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on February 21, 2015, 09:42:35 AM
I'd go for:
                          Guzan
Hutton            Ron       Clarke           Ally

Gill         Sanchez           Delph         Gabby
             
                  Benteke       Wiemann
                         

Who are Clarke, Gill and wiemann?
They are Ally's brothers.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on February 21, 2015, 09:48:43 AM
Biggest challenge today may be managing fan expectations . This is going to be very tough I reckon.

I don't think it'll be a stroll but at least there's optimism. Under Lambert, we'd have this down for a defeat.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: CJ on February 21, 2015, 09:49:14 AM
What are the odds on a Delph red card?
Who's ref ?

Roger East according to this. (http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2014-2015/epl.html/aston-villa-vs-stoke) 9 games this season so far, 36 yellow cards, no red. Yet. And strangely enough one of the linesmen's name is West.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 21, 2015, 09:51:38 AM
Biggest challenge today may be managing fan expectations . This is going to be very tough I reckon.

I don't think it'll be a stroll but at least there's optimism. Under Lambert, we'd have this down for a defeat.
Agree. I will stand by my prediction of a scruffy, nervy 1-0 win, Sinclair .
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on February 21, 2015, 09:52:23 AM
What are the odds on a Delph red card?
Who's ref ?

Roger East according to this. (http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2014-2015/epl.html/aston-villa-vs-stoke) 9 games this season so far, 36 yellow cards, no red. Yet. And strangely enough one of the linesmen's name is West.

Couldn't make it up really!  Not sure why the PL use so many different refs, maybe because so many have been involved in scandals?!
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on February 21, 2015, 10:02:15 AM
I am nervous about today. Firstly because it is squeaky bum time of the season and secondly because Sherwood's early results will dictate the rest of the season in my opinion.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on February 21, 2015, 10:02:54 AM
What are the odds on a Delph red card?
Who's ref ?

Roger East according to this. (http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2014-2015/epl.html/aston-villa-vs-stoke) 9 games this season so far, 36 yellow cards, no red. Yet. And strangely enough one of the linesmen's name is West.

The game's going south
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on February 21, 2015, 10:15:39 AM
What are the odds on a Delph red card?
Who's ref ?

Roger East according to this. (http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2014-2015/epl.html/aston-villa-vs-stoke) 9 games this season so far, 36 yellow cards, no red. Yet. And strangely enough one of the linesmen's name is West.

The game's going south

The North Stand should be full.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on February 21, 2015, 10:17:20 AM
Massive game - win, and we get the wind in our sails for the rest of the season; losing doesn't bear contemplating.
My main concern is that the team go all out to win and get caught by a more settled and counter-attacking Stoke. Last season, their counter-attacking approach was one of the best of its type that I've seen (although the Spammers also mugged us well last season, too).
I hope that TS gets some balance in the team and the way we play.

2-1.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Steve kirk on February 21, 2015, 10:23:02 AM
Woke up with mixture of nerves and excitement,  going with my two sons and grandson, my youngest getting train from Liverpool to watch match and get on train back to start 10 pm shift, amazing how different it feels now Lambert has gone, just win Villa just win.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on February 21, 2015, 10:23:30 AM
What are the odds on a Delph red card?
Who's ref ?

Roger East according to this. (http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2014-2015/epl.html/aston-villa-vs-stoke) 9 games this season so far, 36 yellow cards, no red. Yet. And strangely enough one of the linesmen's name is West.

The game's going south

The North Stand should be full.

It should be within our compass to win today.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on February 21, 2015, 10:38:01 AM
Woke up with mixture of nerves and excitement,  going with my two sons and grandson, my youngest getting train from Liverpool to watch match and get on train back to start 10 pm shift, amazing how different it feels now Lambert has gone, just win Villa just win.

Go the same, nerves mixed with excitement.

They have injuries whereas we have a clean slate for everyone and a manager pledged to attack. Nil nil it is then.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on February 21, 2015, 10:44:11 AM
What are the odds on a Delph red card?
Who's ref ?

Roger East according to this. (http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2014-2015/epl.html/aston-villa-vs-stoke) 9 games this season so far, 36 yellow cards, no red. Yet. And strangely enough one of the linesmen's name is West.

The game's going south

The North Stand should be full.

It should be within our compass to win today.

A win would point us in the right direction.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Man With A Stick on February 21, 2015, 10:54:37 AM
I'm away for the weekend but for the first time in about 5 years I wish I could go down today.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on February 21, 2015, 10:55:05 AM
I'd go for:
                          Guzan
Hutton            Ron       Clarke           Ally

Gill         Sanchez           Delph         Gabby
             
                  Benteke       Wiemann
                         

Who are Clarke, Gill and wiemann?
They are Ally's brothers.
The Pedantic Police are on patrol! Give or take a few letters here and there that was not a bad effort after supping my Homebrew APA.

It still looks a good team, spelling aside.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Monty on February 21, 2015, 10:57:49 AM
I'd rather Sinclair on the left than Gabby. Gabby has no clue about tracking back to defend - at least Sinclair is more used to to doing that..
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on February 21, 2015, 10:58:34 AM
Today is going to be the day,

and we'll never throw it back to you.


im on me way to the sacred heart now,

yes im up for it.

UTV
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: bob on February 21, 2015, 11:04:16 AM
If they've got all these players out we are going to thrash them.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on February 21, 2015, 11:05:09 AM
How does a manager come up with his side for the first match? Surely working with players for one week doesn't really show how good/bad everyone is and their good/bad points. Must be a tough thing to do. Does he ask the other coaches? Does he have a look through the team put out in previous weeks?

I think he'll go with the team that started last weeks match. He saw the improvement in the second half, so will want to see if the players can recreate that.

Can players really show you how good they are in one week of training to get themselves a starting place? I'd say it'd go more on the match he saw last week and bits and pieces he's seen of Villa over the years.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 21, 2015, 11:16:25 AM
Sun is shining and Villa are gonna win. Can't wait to get to VP.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Holte L2 on February 21, 2015, 11:49:17 AM
Sun is shining and Villa are gonna win. Can't wait to get to VP.

On route now. This optimism is freaking me out. It's lovely.

It's my mums 60th tomorrow. Her family are all noses. Family party after this evening.

Yes we're gonna win!
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on February 21, 2015, 12:13:02 PM
How does a manager come up with his side for the first match? Surely working with players for one week doesn't really show how good/bad everyone is and their good/bad points. Must be a tough thing to do. Does he ask the other coaches? Does he have a look through the team put out in previous weeks?

I think he'll go with the team that started last weeks match. He saw the improvement in the second half, so will want to see if the players can recreate that.

Can players really show you how good they are in one week of training to get themselves a starting place? I'd say it'd go more on the match he saw last week and bits and pieces he's seen of Villa over the years.

Remember, he's watched us a few times this season live, and if it's true that he was being lined up, he's had plenty of time for researching most of the other games too.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on February 21, 2015, 12:21:32 PM
Just about to set off from Cotton Village. Come on Villa don't let us down......2-1 hard fought win.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Monty on February 21, 2015, 12:30:22 PM
For some reason I have the feeling that today could go big. We need to improve that goals tally.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: VinnieChase84 on February 21, 2015, 12:41:21 PM
3-1 win (we've got to score more than 2 goals in one game at some point)
Benteke first goal scorer

Guzan
Hutton-vlaar-Clark-Aly
Sanchez-Delph
Bacuna-Gill-Gabby
Benteke

Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on February 21, 2015, 12:46:28 PM
Just about to leave for the match and haven't felt this optimistic about a home game in a long while. COME ON YOU LIONS.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 21, 2015, 12:50:09 PM
Over 81% of us predict a Villa win. That must be unprecedented for a league game.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on February 21, 2015, 12:57:25 PM
Over 81% of us predict a Villa win. That must be unprecedented for a league game.
The new-manager bounce or dead cat bounce.
Many people on here have agreed this season that the player-squad is good enough to stay up; the issue was about coaching and management. We'll see later how far that is indeed the case.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 21, 2015, 01:02:39 PM
3-1 win (we've got to score more than 2 goals in one game at some point)
Benteke first goal scorer

Guzan
Hutton-vlaar-Clark-Aly
Sanchez-Delph
Bacuna-Gill-Gabby
Benteke

I think you've nailed the team, Vinny. I hope you're right on the result too.
After a week of nervousness I'm feeling very confident about today. As Mr E rightly points out, we have very decent team that should be no where near the relegation spots.

Win the midfield in the early stages and I think we can batter them.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: supertom on February 21, 2015, 01:17:49 PM
3-1 win (we've got to score more than 2 goals in one game at some point)
Benteke first goal scorer

Guzan
Hutton-vlaar-Clark-Aly
Sanchez-Delph
Bacuna-Gill-Gabby
Benteke

I think you've nailed the team, Vinny. I hope you're right on the result too.
After a week of nervousness I'm feeling very confident about today. As Mr E rightly points out, we have very decent team that should be no where near the relegation spots.

Win the midfield in the early stages and I think we can batter them.
That's how I'd go, with the possible exception of Sinclair in for Gabby. But I'd have one replace the other as and when needed anyhow.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 21, 2015, 01:30:40 PM
On the 7. Gonna go meet Leeg and Freddy in the fun zone. I hope I'm allowed to have a go on the games in there!
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SashasGrandad on February 21, 2015, 01:34:44 PM
What are the odds on a Delph red card?
Who's ref ?

Roger East according to this. (http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2014-2015/epl.html/aston-villa-vs-stoke) 9 games this season so far, 36 yellow cards, no red. Yet. And strangely enough one of the linesmen's name is West.

The game's going south

The North Stand should be full.

It should be within our compass to win today.

A win would point us in the right direction.

As long as Tim tells them which way to find the goal.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 21, 2015, 01:35:00 PM
Villa, you're gonna step onto that pitch today backed with more optimism and collective goodwill than we've been able to summon up for a few years now. We'll do our bit, we ask nothing more than you do yours. Play with pride and belief in yourselves, and we shall do our best to carry you. Game-face time. Let's do this.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: dekko on February 21, 2015, 01:35:53 PM
This amount of positivity is unreal.  We could quite easily lose today (probably as a result of leaving ourselves too open IMO) so it'll be interesting to see if this mood carries on if it happens.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 21, 2015, 01:39:42 PM
All this positivity is alien at  the back of my mind I have Stan Collymore debut and the 0-4.
And the parade  followed by 0-1 john chidozie.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 21, 2015, 01:41:49 PM
3 - 1. Come on you Villa boys!
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on February 21, 2015, 01:49:49 PM
Just fucking win
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 21, 2015, 01:51:57 PM
This.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: supertom on February 21, 2015, 02:00:37 PM
Just fucking win
At the very least just look like we're attempting to win the match. We were in danger of being renamed Damage Limitation FC under Lambert.
Title: Re: Timsherwoodsastonvilla v Stoke City Sat 21st Feb - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 21, 2015, 02:05:12 PM
@AVFCOfficial: #AVFC (v @StokeCity): Guzan, Hutton, Vlaar, Clark, Richardson, Sinclair, Sanchez, Delph, Gil, Agbonlahor, Benteke. #AVFCLIVE
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