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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Gregorys Boy on July 28, 2014, 09:59:37 AM
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For whatever reason, be it our shocking record against them, personally dislike of them, style of play, horrible ground/area etc.. What clubs that have gone down which you have been glad to see the back of?
Dealing with the Small Heath one first, when they were thrashing us every season during the Brucie years then I was pleased to see the back of them, but more recently when the roles were reversed I was more than happy for them to stay up as long as they wanted.
Something tells me we might be playing them again very soon ???
Anyway, I would say Fulham is one for me, we had a rotten record against them more so at their place (which is a shame as its a nice place to visit!). Remember seeing one of my worse Villa games there in 08 when they looking nailed on for the drop, and it was Hogdson's first game in charge and wouldn't you just know it they beat us 2-1 with a last minute JIMMY BULLARD GOAL! :-[ We were goal up too. We seem to save our worse performances for trips to the cottages, last season was another prime example. We'd actually had a decent start to the season, and looked in okay shape ahead of the game, they on the other hand had been awful. Then the curse of the new manager struck again (why couldn't they wait another week to ditch Jo? :'(), they won a one sided half two nil, and the game was dead in the second half. They even did the double over us last season. In fact this goes back quite a few seasons, to when they up set us at Villa Park in the Cup, this during the Keegan years (now sold at a discount price on DVD), this was the same season that we had been run away leaders in the league and yet against second Division Fulham we barely mustered a decent chance on goal all game. Fulham for me, even though a couple of people I know support them, they had a decent enough run in the top league, so I hope we won't be playing them for awhile.
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Small Heath Alliance. Horrible club.
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Seem to remember Leicester having a good run against us
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QPR. Squalid.
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i've met fans of other clubs who will be glad to see the back of us!
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Seem to remember Leicester having a good run against us
Yep, even when they were crap, which has been most of the time outside of the MON years they always looked world beaters against us.
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I was over the moon when QPR went down and gutted when they came back-up. Hate everything about them. The ground, The Supporters, The manager, a lot of the current players.
I remember reading that they had a higher wage-bill than Borussia Dortmund last season and that, to me, highlights everything that's wrong with English football at the moment.
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Leeds can take as long as they like coming back.
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In terms of being scummy, Leeds are the ones that I want to stew in misery for as long as possible. They always caused trouble every time they came to Villa Park.
Coventry and Small Heath going down (again) was amusing.
We had a rubbish record at home to Wigan, but weren't bad away against them. Apart from their horrible owner they seemed nice enough.
I gather Northampton Town had a good record against us....
Both Leicester (our bogey side) and QPR are back up and we never, ever win at Crystal Palace :'(
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Coventry. I was beside myself at half time in their last game at Villa Park when it looked like we were going to let them off the hook again. When Angel and Merson's goals went in I thought that the whole ground would explode.
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Definitely Coventry for me, not missed them one bit in 13 years since they went down and hope they never come back.
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Cov away was always good though. I'd like to get them away in the cup. They'd loan the Ricoh for a game for that I reckon.
And we'd fill it for them!
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Birmingham obviously. QPR are a pointless club, their ground is awful too. Chelsea is another obvious one, I hate how people consider them a big club now.
Man Utd, Real Madrid, and Bayern are all horrible clubs.
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For me its Wimbledon of the Dave Bassett era. A team made up of thugs who seemed to just kick the opposition all over the park. Sadly it looks as if they're on the way back up, hopefully they'll be a lot different next time round.
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Let me think....CoventryCoventryCoventryCoventryCoventryCoventryCoventryCoventryCoventryCoventryCoventryCoventryCoventryCoventry. Horrible, horrible bastards.
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Millwall, Leeds and Coventry City as well.
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Wimbledon...we always seemed to lose against them.
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Ipswich. I remember going there a few months after the pub bombings and the twats started singing "There was a tavern in the town" and "Here we go round the Mulberry Bush."
SHA,Coventry,SHA, Leeds,SHA, Millwall oh and SHA.
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With regards the OP I was sorry to see Fulham go down - regardless of our record against them it was always a good away trip. For me it's got to be Coventry, SHA and Blackpool purely because of the comments by that Gollum gobshite Holloway
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Ipswich. I remember going there a few months after the pub bombings and the twats started singing "There was a tavern in the town" and "Here we go round the Mulberry Bush."
SHA,Coventry,SHA, Leeds,SHA, Millwall oh and SHA.
Yes, I was at that game, too.
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I've never understood the antipathy fans feel towards other clubs*.
(* apart from Newcastle United)
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Bob rowe beat me to it. Wimbledon and (briefly) Millwall. Never liked Boro. If there was one I would dearly like to see swallowed by a gigantic galactic goldfish it would be Manchester United.
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Coventry, small time self obsessed wankers, SHA and West Brom, so we can put to bed this we know what we are bollocks for good
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Pretty much everyone really. Any team that we beat thoroughly deserved it and were lucky to get away with whatever the scoreline was. Equally any club that beats us has committed a crime against humanity.
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Only glad to the shit go down. Would have been funny to see Everton go in the 90s in the way it's funny to see big clubs struggle. I remember them singing to man U - 'You're Going Down With the Villa' to man U in the mid 80s. Not that that bothered me I saw it as a token of their respect. I daresay we don't get that anymore.
I also wonder how many other fan's forums would say us if we had gone down in the last two seasons for being boring and shite?
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Wimbledon and their massive away support. Biggest bogey side ever!
Small heath for so many reasons.
Boro, what a horrible place.
Coventry, for being a pain in the ass and helping Man United to pip us for the 1992/93 Premier League title.
Wolves, their fans seem in a timetrap (they all must like Mrs Brown's Boys).
Crystal Palace, we never, ever win at their place no matter how good we are and how shit they are??
Chelsea, vile fans.
Millwall, as above and became a bogey side in the late 80s.
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Wimbledon and their massive away support. Biggest bogey side ever!
Small heath for so many reasons.
Boro, what a horrible place.
Coventry, for being a pain in the ass and helping Man United to pip us for the 1992/93 Premier League title.
Wolves, their fans seem in a timetrap (they all must like Mrs Brown's Boys).
Crystal Palace, we never, ever win at their place no matter how good we are and how shit they are??
Chelsea, vile fans.
Millwall, as above and became a bogey side in the late 80s.
I like Wolves, we always beat them home and away.
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Newcastle. That was a good day.
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All three of the clubs who have at some point contributed to my many miserable visits to Selhurst Park. Palace, Wimbledon and Charlton. Also Oxford. Their old ground was a dump and I didn't like their fans either. Add Grimsby to the list too due to their fans and the local police. The police at Leicester were quite hard to love too. Also the Nottingham police and their antics in 1989.
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Have Chelsea gone down?
A special mention for Reading, Oxford and Swindon. Clubs that have caused us more problems than they should have. Bolton, horrible ground. Oldham ditto.
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Small Heath. It wouldn't bother me if we never played them again.
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Coventry for me....and if Chelsea and Spurs could follow them that would be great too.
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The passage along the back of the away end at the old Manor ground in Oxford was a grim place.
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In addition to that Manor Ground passage the police at Oxford were always vile. Hated the place.
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The passage along the back of the away end at the old Manor ground in Oxford was a grim place.
Definitely. Especially when a load of their fans are more interested in waiting at the end of it to have a pop at you rather than actually celebrating getting to a cup final!
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Have Chelsea gone down?
I remember them going down in 1988 when we passed them on the way back up. Middlesbrough beat them over 2 legs in the play offs and they reacted in the only way they knew how by rioting and causing a great deal of bother.
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Have Chelsea gone down?
I remember them going down in 1988 when we passed them on the way back up. Middlesbrough beat them over 2 legs in the play offs and they reacted in the only way they knew how by rioting and causing a great deal of bother.
After Tony Dorigo had left us for them because we had gone down. Was that also not the time that Ken Bates wanted to put up an electrified fence at Stamford Bridge? In fact I think he might even have installed one but was made to take it down.
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I never know what to make of Ken Bates, on the one hand he seems like a horrible person, but on the other hand he's really annoyed Chelsea and Leeds fans.
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QPR. Squalid.
I never used to mind them and knew a couple of fans through work who were sound, but in the last few years they've become vulgar beyond belief.
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Have Chelsea gone down?
A special mention for Reading, Oxford and Swindon. Clubs that have caused us more problems than they should have. Bolton, horrible ground. Oldham ditto.
Yep before the cash arrived quite frequently.
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Boro were a strange one. We always seemed to beat them comfortably up there yet they'd never lose at VP.
Anway annoyed me when they used to nick our best players and I think they're a bit of a non-descript club.
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Ipswich. I remember going there a few months after the pub bombings and the twats started singing "There was a tavern in the town" and "Here we go round the Mulberry Bush."
SHA,Coventry,SHA, Leeds,SHA, Millwall oh and SHA.
It always annoyed me in '81 when the media were all over Ipswich and we pi**ed on their party.
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Another mention for Coventry. I've taken great delight in their misfortune over the past few seasons. Personal favourite -them selling out the Ricoh Arena for the first and only time a couple seasons ago for a Johnstone Paint Trophy game against Crewe and losing 3-0.
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Boro were a strange one. We always seemed to beat them comfortably up there yet they'd never lose at VP.
Anway annoyed me when they used to nick our best players and I think they're a bit of a non-descript club.
Really? I remember quite a few VP wins against Boro, including a 5-1 in 93 which the first time I saw Villa, a 3-1 near the start of 98/99, and a 1-0 I attended also in the late 90s.
Am surprised at all the Coventry mentions. Always, thought the hate was more on their part.
Newcastle is a classic case, unlike Chelsea they remain a boogy team to this day. Seem to thrash us a lot at their place, and noramlly get at least a draw at ours, sometimes more. Whats really annoying is that since the Sir Bobby days often we have been as good, or better then them.
We have awful home records against both Liverpool and Arsenal. I think we have not beat either at Villa Park since the 90s? Would like to see that end this season.
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Obvious: Blues and Coventry.
Rational: Wimbledon because of that 0-3. Leeds because I'm yet to meet a fan of theirs that I'd consider to be a half-decent human being.
Unexplainable: Both Sheffield clubs. Bollocks to them both.
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Tottenham, Tottenham Reserves and Tottenham youth teams.
Hate is an irrational word when it comes to football, but I reserve the right to use it when it applies to Tottenham.
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Tottenham, Tottenham Reserves and Tottenham youth teams.
Hate is an irrational word when it comes to football, but I reserve the right to use it when it applies to Tottenham.
in all my travels I have never come across a decent Coventry fan, they all seem to hate us with different degrees of hate, one lad bordering on some serious violence when he found out I supported the Villa, and some of their following spat on me and my mate as we left the delightful Highfield Rd after Garry Thompson scored back in the day.
Living down here in Cambridge the delusional Spurs and the delightful supporters of Chelsea are certainly on my list as clubs I would like to see plummet down the divisions.
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Tottenham would be a good call. I don't hate them, but I don't like why such an irrelvant club as far as I am concerned is blasted all over the sports media courtesy of having a London post-code.
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Tottenham would be a good call. I don't hate them, but I don't like why such an irrelvant club as far as I am concerned is blasted all over the sports media courtesy of having a London post-code.
The phrase "delusions of grandeur" was invented to describe Spurs supporters.
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Boro were a strange one. We always seemed to beat them comfortably up there yet they'd never lose at VP.
Anway annoyed me when they used to nick our best players and I think they're a bit of a non-descript club.
Really? I remember quite a few VP wins against Boro, including a 5-1 in 93 which the first time I saw Villa, a 3-1 near the start of 98/99, and a 1-0 I attended also in the late 90s.
Am surprised at all the Coventry mentions. Always, thought the hate was more on their part.
Newcastle is a classic case, unlike Chelsea they remain a boogy team to this day. Seem to thrash us a lot at their place, and noramlly get at least a draw at ours, sometimes more. Whats really annoying is that since the Sir Bobby days often we have been as good, or better then them.
We have awful home records against both Liverpool and Arsenal. I think we have not beat either at Villa Park since the 90s? Would like to see that end this season.
03-04- Villa 0-2 Boro
04- 05- Villa 2-0 Boros
05-06- Villa 2-3 Boro
06-07- Villa 1-1 Boro
07-08- Villa 1-1 Boro
08-09- Villa 1-2 Boro
1 defeat in their last 6 trips, funny thing is we won 4 times at the Riverside in the same period.
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Newcastle, Liverpool, WBA, Man U, Spurs... my list of hated clubs goes on quite a bit! I think it's primarily the fans that cause it, but sometimes jealously I suppose.
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Tottenham would be a good call. I don't hate them, but I don't like why such an irrelvant club as far as I am concerned is blasted all over the sports media courtesy of having a London post-code.
I don't like them either but at least they're nowadays usually near the top of the league.
Now if you want a London club that gets way overpromoted in the press when compared to their achievements, West Ham are miles infront in that regard.
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Kinda of get the Spurs one, but I do think Newcastle fans are worse. At least Tottehham have had some recent glory to back up their claims, and seem to banging on the CL doors most season now at least.
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Boro were a strange one. We always seemed to beat them comfortably up there yet they'd never lose at VP.
Anway annoyed me when they used to nick our best players and I think they're a bit of a non-descript club.
Really? I remember quite a few VP wins against Boro, including a 5-1 in 93 which the first time I saw Villa, a 3-1 near the start of 98/99, and a 1-0 I attended also in the late 90s.
Am surprised at all the Coventry mentions. Always, thought the hate was more on their part.
Newcastle is a classic case, unlike Chelsea they remain a boogy team to this day. Seem to thrash us a lot at their place, and noramlly get at least a draw at ours, sometimes more. Whats really annoying is that since the Sir Bobby days often we have been as good, or better then them.
We have awful home records against both Liverpool and Arsenal. I think we have not beat either at Villa Park since the 90s? Would like to see that end this season.
03-04- Villa 0-2 Boro
04- 05- Villa 2-0 Boros
05-06- Villa 2-3 Boro
06-07- Villa 1-1 Boro
07-08- Villa 1-1 Boro
08-09- Villa 1-2 Boro
1 defeat in their last 6 trips, funny thing is we won 4 times at the Riverside in the same period.
A bit like our record against Wigan.
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Kinda of get the Spurs one, but I do think Newcastle fans are worse. At least Tottehham have had some recent glory to back up their claims, and seem to banging on the CL doors most season now at least.
Ever since we relegated them Newcastle have had a real bee in their bonnet about us, as if their defeat at Villa Park was the only thing that contributed to them going down and as if no other team's fans would have taken the proverbial on that final day. They really need to get over themselves.
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I've an irrational dislike of Manchester City which pre-dates their lottery win. It goes back to the late sixties to mid-seventies. They had the likes Asa Hartford, Bell, Sumerbee, Lee and a fuckin yokel called Tony Book who was older than Methuselah when they bought him from Swindon.
During this period there was a media wankfest about them that was nauseating. Colin Bell, they inferred was the best player ever, Sumerbee was on a par with Stanley Matthews and City were going to rule the first division for years to come. They sank faster than the Titanic.
Oh, they had Malcolm Allison too. That in itself was enough.
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City when they were balancing from from Prem to Championship were one of our boggy clubs too. Even if they are doing it the wrong way. I can't really begrudge their fans the success they are enjoying now, they have suffered more than most over the years and have stuck by their team all the way. And it is good see a role reversal with them and Utd, as long as City don't do this for twenty years like their neighbours then I don't mind.
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Now if you want a London club that gets way overpromoted in the press when compared to their achievements, West Ham are miles infront in that regard.
Yep, it's West Ham for me. I really enjoy watching them struggle.
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Ipswich. I remember going there a few months after the pub bombings and the twats started singing "There was a tavern in the town" and "Here we go round the Mulberry Bush."
SHA,Coventry,SHA, Leeds,SHA, Millwall oh and SHA.
It always annoyed me in '81 when the media were all over Ipswich and we pi**ed on their party.
Apparently we only won the title because they were playing a lot of FA Cup and European games on top of their league schedule. Apparently they were a better team than us. Which is an interesting opinion considering in the following two years we went on to win the European Cup and European Super Cup and they won bugger all.
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My prediction for this time next year - Leicester.
Utterly despise Chelsea, Man U and any club at the given time who are associated with Harry 'I can't read or write, honest' Redknapp.
Small Heath - a decreptic bunch of hatefilled jealous Neanderthals. Cov - their equally ugly though more irrelevant cousin. They stand up because they hate the Villa, you know.
Newcastle don't like us because we rubbed their nose in it when they got relegated. Apparently the Vera Lynn song didn't go down too well.
Honourable mentions to Cardiff & Wolves - like the Knuckle Draggers above but less legibile
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Ipswich. I remember going there a few months after the pub bombings and the twats started singing "There was a tavern in the town" and "Here we go round the Mulberry Bush."
SHA,Coventry,SHA, Leeds,SHA, Millwall oh and SHA.
It always annoyed me in '81 when the media were all over Ipswich and we pi**ed on their party.
Apparently we only won the title because they were playing a lot of FA Cup and European games on top of their league schedule. Apparently they were a better team than us. Which is an interesting opinion considering in the following two years we went on to win the European Cup and European Super Cup and they won bugger all.
I still love that even now, 33 years later they still go on about it, don't you Mr Brazil?
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Maybe they shouldn't have prematurely started celebrating their title win in the dressing room at Villa Park. Because having recently read Kenny Swain's autobiography it really pumped the Villa players up.
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Ipswich. I remember going there a few months after the pub bombings and the twats started singing "There was a tavern in the town" and "Here we go round the Mulberry Bush."
SHA,Coventry,SHA, Leeds,SHA, Millwall oh and SHA.
It always annoyed me in '81 when the media were all over Ipswich and we pi**ed on their party.
Apparently we only won the title because they were playing a lot of FA Cup and European games on top of their league schedule. Apparently they were a better team than us. Which is an interesting opinion considering in the following two years we went on to win the European Cup and European Super Cup and they won bugger all.
I still love that even now, 33 years later they still go on about it, don't you Mr Brazil?
Only thing is in their defence is that they beat us 3 times that season but we still won the league, happy days.
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Why don't they ever bang on about how they should have won the league the year after, but Liverpool won because they cheated in some way, like by winning more matches than them?
Worth pointing out that we finished miles ahead of Ipswich in the end, it would have been a bigger margin of victory if it was 3 points for a win.
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Why don't they ever bang on about how they should have won the league the year after, but Liverpool won because they cheated in some way, like by winning more matches than them?
Worth pointing out that we finished miles ahead of Ipswich in the end, it would have been a bigger margin of victory if it was 3 points for a win.
They can moan and accuse and claim that they were a better team, but we won it because we deserved to.
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Only thing is in their defence is that they beat us 3 times that season but we still won the league, happy days.
We took 4 points of Man Utd in 1992/93 and knocked them out of the League Cup - it meant bugger all in the end though.
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Why don't they ever bang on about how they should have won the league the year after, but Liverpool won because they cheated in some way, like by winning more matches than them?
Worth pointing out that we finished miles ahead of Ipswich in the end, it would have been a bigger margin of victory if it was 3 points for a win.
They can moan and accuse and claim that they were a better team, but we won it because we deserved to.
They got four points from their last eight games.
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As mentioned by Russel i was gutted to see QPR come back up. Detest that ground. Baggies after the last two years (i live in the area, pray for me), irritating bastards.
The dream - Chelsea. Hate their fans. I find cockneys pretty annoying on the whole.
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Why don't they ever bang on about how they should have won the league the year after, but Liverpool won because they cheated in some way, like by winning more matches than them?
Worth pointing out that we finished miles ahead of Ipswich in the end, it would have been a bigger margin of victory if it was 3 points for a win.
They can moan and accuse and claim that they were a better team, but we won it because we deserved to.
They got four points from their last eight games.
I didn't know that. I've stored that information away for future reference/use against tractor boys.
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They also lost to Norwich in their only derby. We played approximately 78 (I can't be arsed to work out how many) derbies that season and didn't lose a single one.
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I think it was fourteen, if you include Stoke.
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Maybe they shouldn't have prematurely started celebrating their title win in the dressing room at Villa Park. Because having recently read Kenny Swain's autobiography it really pumped the Villa players up.
And it also gave birth to one of the most famous Villa quotes... "Do you want to bet against us?"
That quote still sends a tingle down my spine
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We didn't deserve to lose the game at Villa Park against them and we were robbed by a blatant handball in the FA Cup game at their place.
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In the past I have quite liked Norwich, but recently a couple of their fans I have met just can't seem to get over Lambert leaving them for us. I am guessing right about now that some Villa fans would be happy to give him back to them ;)
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west brom, west brom reserves, west brom youth team, west brom anything hate them with a passion
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I've always hated Chelsea, even before the money arrived for them to start buying trophies.
A club that has always been totally devoid of any class, soul, or spirit.
Ken Bates, David Mellor, The Shed, assorted stuck up celebrity actors and luvvies always seem to support them.
When they were shit they thought they were good but just had a bunch of overated prima donnas like Alan bloody Birchnall, Alan bloody Hudson or shitheads like Ron chopper Harris...chopper? just call him what he was, a dirty bastard. To think I paid good money to see him as an after dinner speaker, thick as two short planks I nearly fell asleep listening to his boring cockney accent.
Stamford Bridge in the 1970/80s was the most depressing place imaginable, a big bowl of concrete and fences where you were miles away from the pitch. No atmosphere partly because you were so far away but also because the home fans on the terrace didnt have the first clue about how to cheer on a football team. They were too busy polishing their bovver boots or arranging the next meeting of the local National Front branch.
Chelsea make all the other cockney bastard clubs look almost reasonable.
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Small Heath
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Couldn't put it better myself Andy.
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we were the best team in 1981 check the records, any bolox saying otherwise is bolox. Ipswich were second best, as sed by fellow Villa fans earlier if we were playing for 3 points for a win, we would have won by a landslide.
I personally hate Chelsea the most cuz they've lost their fans , have just jonny come lately, red bin dippers cuz the plastics are just that, and know fuck all about football, no disrespect to the real Liverpool fans but their seriously out numbered , and of course sha as they are anti football and seem to hate us more than support their sad little club.
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Couldn't put it better myself Andy.
I agree, passionate hatred there. I feel it.
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I've always hated Chelsea, even before the money arrived for them to start buying trophies.
A club that has always been totally devoid of any class, soul, or spirit.
Ken Bates, David Mellor, The Shed, assorted stuck up celebrity actors and luvvies always seem to support them.
When they were shit they thought they were good but just had a bunch of overated prima donnas like Alan bloody Birchnall, Alan bloody Hudson or shitheads like Ron chopper Harris...chopper? just call him what he was, a dirty bastard. To think I paid good money to see him as an after dinner speaker, thick as two short planks I nearly fell asleep listening to his boring cockney accent.
Stamford Bridge in the 1970/80s was the most depressing place imaginable, a big bowl of concrete and fences where you were miles away from the pitch. No atmosphere partly because you were so far away but also because the home fans on the terrace didnt have the first clue about how to cheer on a football team. They were too busy polishing their bovver boots or arranging the next meeting of the local National Front branch.
Chelsea make all the other cockney bastard clubs look almost reasonable.
Never a truer word spoken. Hear hear!
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Leicester for me, I can't recall too many wins against them.
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we were the best team in 1981 check the records, any bolox saying otherwise is bolox. Ipswich were second best, as sed by fellow Villa fans earlier if we were playing for 3 points for a win, we would have won by a landslide.
I personally hate Chelsea the most cuz they've lost their fans , have just jonny come lately, red bin dippers cuz the plastics are just that, and know fuck all about football, no disrespect to the real Liverpool fans but their seriously out numbered , and of course sha as they are anti football and seem to hate us more than support their sad little club.
7pts instead of 4
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I've always hated Chelsea, even before the money arrived for them to start buying trophies.
A club that has always been totally devoid of any class, soul, or spirit.
Ken Bates, David Mellor, The Shed, assorted stuck up celebrity actors and luvvies always seem to support them.
When they were shit they thought they were good but just had a bunch of overated prima donnas like Alan bloody Birchnall, Alan bloody Hudson or shitheads like Ron chopper Harris...chopper? just call him what he was, a dirty bastard. To think I paid good money to see him as an after dinner speaker, thick as two short planks I nearly fell asleep listening to his boring cockney accent.
Stamford Bridge in the 1970/80s was the most depressing place imaginable, a big bowl of concrete and fences where you were miles away from the pitch. No atmosphere partly because you were so far away but also because the home fans on the terrace didnt have the first clue about how to cheer on a football team. They were too busy polishing their bovver boots or arranging the next meeting of the local National Front branch.
Chelsea make all the other cockney bastard clubs look almost reasonable.
Might be a bit biased as my Antie and my late Uncle supported Chelsea, but I actually don't mind Chelsea. Even when they struggled they were a well supported club, and there has always been a certain amount of flair to their teams. It has been harder to like the more recent Chelsea model, sometimes you just can't win though. At first people were pleased to see another club other than Arsenal/Man Utd dominate,but then they get too much of a good thing..
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Might be a bit biased as my Antie and my late Uncle supported Chelsea, but I actually don't mind Chelsea. Even when they struggled they were a well supported club.
I don't know about the well supported bit - they had 8923 at their home game against Coventry in the Premier League in 1994, which is pathetic.
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Might be a bit biased as my Antie and my late Uncle supported Chelsea, but I actually don't mind Chelsea. Even when they struggled they were a well supported club.
But you can always pick te odd game with any club like that. I saw tham a few times during that period and thought the support was pretty good.
I don't know about the well supported bit - they had 8923 at their home game against Coventry in the Premier League in 1994, which is pathetic.
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Middlesbrough. Always remember them reacting to a defeat at Villa Park by singing "You're just a town full of (unpleasant racial epithet beginning with N)" in those dim and distant unenlightened days of , erm, 1987. Annoyingly good record against us as well. Haste ye not back.
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but I actually don't mind Chelsea. Even when they struggled they were a well supported club,
When they were struggling in 1982 and 1983 they were averaging just over 12,000
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Liverpool. Boorish supporters.
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Yeah, but in repsonse to joe - we were singing 'What's it like to f*** your kids' to them as the child scandal broke.
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No club stands out....more any team ever managed by Allardyce! Nearly always crap games with zero entertainment dictated by his horrible football mentality & all too often our complete inability to break it down
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No club stands out....more any team ever managed by Allardyce! Nearly always crap games with zero entertainment dictated by his horrible football mentality & all too often our complete inability to break it down
I enjoyed it the season before last at Villa Park when every time we broke away West Ham brought us down cynically, then when we won 2-1 Allardyce said "they won with a freekick and a penalty".
Yes, because you fouled us every time we attacked.
He's like a big kid, who can't take losing. Mind you, so are most managers.
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Leeds - scummy fans but undeniably a very big club.
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This debate always make me chuckle. I can never really look past Coventry being as I am, from Nuneaton. If pressed though, I would certainly add in this order: Leeds, blues, ( and Newcastle and Chelsea, whenever it happens.)
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Leicester
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There was a thread a while ago about the other 91 League clubs - them
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Bolton under Allardyce used to annoy the life out of me, with the gimps they would have running up and down with flags and stupid goal music, not to mention the special locals they had with their drums in the corner.
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The more I think about this, the more clubs I add to my list - so I won't bother.
Obviously SHA is a big No.1 for me but unsure about Coventry. Good to see them struggling but we do miss the invariable 6 points a season!!
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The more I think about this, the more clubs I add to my list - so I won't bother.
Obviously SHA is a big No.1 for me but unsure about Coventry. Good to see them struggling but we do miss the invariable 6 points a season!!
You do wonder if we'll struggle with the 6 points off Norwich each season. There's always Hull though.
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You are Dave Woodhall and I claim my ten pounds!
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Middlesbrough. Always remember them reacting to a defeat at Villa Park by singing "You're just a town full of (unpleasant racial epithet beginning with N)" in those dim and distant unenlightened days of , erm, 1987. Annoyingly good record against us as well. Haste ye not back.
They had a good brief spell in the 70s against us but generally their record is very poor against us. Only 6 wins in last 30 league meetings.
Also I can't really dislike them for Bosko Jankovic's heroics alone in 1981.
Teams that think Villa are bothered about them are quite annoying, so Coventry, Leicester and Stoke come into that category.
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No club stands out....more any team ever managed by Allardyce! Nearly always crap games with zero entertainment dictated by his horrible football mentality & all too often our complete inability to break it down
I enjoyed it the season before last at Villa Park when every time we broke away West Ham brought us down cynically, then when we won 2-1 Allardyce said "they won with a freekick and a penalty".
Yes, because you fouled us every time we attacked.
He's like a big kid, who can't take losing. Mind you, so are most managers.
But you have to respect that Big Sam would never accept winning a game with a free kick and a penalty. As far as he is concerned it is only a deserved goal if it involves twenty or more passes and comes into the 'total football' category. If he ever won a game by set pieces alone he would do the decent thing and offer to replay the game. That is why he is so loved by the club's owners and fans.
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Chelsea for the reasons well expressed by Andy, and West Ham.
The club and their fans have an undeserved reputation abroad, people even tend to think that they invented the claret and blue shirt whereas is well noticed thay they took the shirt from the Villa.
Plus, they always boast that their ground has something to do with Ann Boleyn, that is completely false.
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Fucking Luton. For the 5000 reasons I have given previously.
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Fucking Luton. For the 5000 reasons I have given previously.
Yeah I came across Luton when working as a steward at Morecambe a few years back, but of an ugly looking, rough and dumb bunch mostly..
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The supporters are a tiny fraction of why I detest them.
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QPR and that he rubber faced bastard who manages them. When Sky talk about their sources, it's him,rubber face. That's why they love him. Rentaquote.
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What's up with Luton people? I know precisely fuck all about the place.
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What's up with Luton people? I know precisely fuck all about the place.
1 - Had a plastic pitch
2- Banned away fans
3 - Regularly beat us on that pitch after they got promoted
4 - Regularly beat us on their grass pitch before they got their plastic pitch after they got promoted
5 - Only club (as far as I am aware), to have a manager arrested for kerb crawling next to the ground
6- Sold us Paul Elliott
7 - Their cult hero is Mick Harford
8- Paul Walsh and Brian Stein have more England caps than Gary Shaw
9 - Ricky Hill has more England caps than Dennis Mortimer
10 - One side of their ground was a double glazing showroom
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Can we just resurrect the anti-Luton thread we had a few months ago, it might be in the other football page though.
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Can we just resurrect the anti-Luton thread we had a few months ago, it might be in the other football page though.
Anti Luton threads have to be carefully monitored and managed otherwise the internet explodes.
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Can we just resurrect the anti-Luton thread we had a few months ago, it might be in the other football page though.
Anti Luton threads have to be carefully monitored and managed otherwise the internet explodes.
Plus the fact that Damo will hog the thread and no one else can get a word in :)
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Having to climb through people's back gardens to get into the poxy away before they just banned us.
Identity cards.
Having David Evans as a chairman.
Being the home of the EDL.
The first club to devote an entire stand to corporate boxes.....
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Luton - what a fucking shit hole
By the way Pleat was a Spurs when he got arrested for kerb crawling
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Fuck me, you read new things on this site everyday. Never would have expected Villa fans to hate Luton so much :-X
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Fuck me, you read new things on this site everyday. Never would have expected Villa fans to hate Luton so much :-X
try Cambridge Utd fans....they have a serious level of hate for Luton too..oh and Posh...
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Fuck me, you read new things on this site everyday. Never would have expected Villa fans to hate Luton so much :-X
try Cambridge Utd fans....they have a serious level of hate for Luton too..oh and Posh...
I was born in Peterborough and it is a real dump. Can see a true battle of classes grudge match between those two. But Peterborough actually see Northampton as their nearest rivals which does make a bit more sense.
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Fuck me, you read new things on this site everyday. Never would have expected Villa fans to hate Luton so much :-X
try Cambridge Utd fans....they have a serious level of hate for Luton too..oh and Posh...
I was born in Peterborough and it is a real dump. Can see a true battle of classes grudge match between those two. But Peterborough actually see Northampton as their nearest rivals which does make a bit more sense.
with Posh I can see the Northampton thing as they have been playing League football and Cambridge have only just resurfaced into the Football League from a few seasons in the Conference....
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What's up with Luton people? I know precisely fuck all about the place.
1 - Had a plastic pitch
2- Banned away fans
3 - Regularly beat us on that pitch after they got promoted
4 - Regularly beat us on their grass pitch before they got their plastic pitch after they got promoted
5 - Only club (as far as I am aware), to have a manager arrested for kerb crawling next to the ground
6- Sold us Paul Elliott
7 - Their cult hero is Mick Harford
8- Paul Walsh and Brian Stein have more England caps than Gary Shaw
9 - Ricky Hill has more England caps than Dennis Mortimer
10 - One side of their ground was a double glazing showroom
Haha cheers Damo. I am now clued up about Luton.
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The hacienda
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The hacienda
Finest club there ever was. Fantastic nights in there.
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I hated Luton as a kid in the mid/late eighties for some of the reasons above and i would probably still hate them now if they hadn't dissapeared up their own arse.
I hated Coventry too, more into the 90's though, and i see they too have disappeared up their own arse.
I had an on/off serious dislike for Wimbledon too back in the day, yet again their arse became their final resting place.
If only Man Utd would go the same way.
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Oh yeah, Leicester and Leeds as well but unfortunately Leicester are on the way back. Bunch of fucking peasants.
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Lived in Cov after moving from Brum as a little un, came back to Brum in my 40's, the Sky Blue fuckers hate us much more than you think so Cov Shity everytime for me.
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I hated Luton as a kid in the mid/late eighties for some of the reasons above and i would probably still hate them now if they hadn't dissapeared up their own arse.
I hated Coventry too, more into the 90's though, and i see they too have disappeared up their own arse.
I had an on/off serious dislike for Wimbledon too back in the day, yet again their arse became their final resting place.
If only Man Utd would go the same way.
Apparently Luton have turned into the Manchester United of the lower divisions, taking thousands to places like Tamworth.
Which is more than they used to take to Villa Park in the old First Division.
T'was always them and Wimbledon who took ridiculously small allocations, usually less than 600.
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My childhood/early ST holding life was haunted by MON's Leicester. I can't remember the exact numbers but we either didn't beat them at home or at all for a huge run of games until a Tommy Hitz right footer from the edge of the area got us a win at their place I think. Horrible team full of dirty gits like Savage and Dickov Also didn't Ade Akenbeyi score his first goal in about a million games in front of the Holte End? A toe poke from a yard whilst Dickov was fouling the keeper IIRC.
I'm upset they're back.
PS. Howard Webb has retired. Very glad to see the back of him.
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Another example of Luton. Playing the big I Am at Forest Green Rovers.
I have never forgiven Leicester for using the financial loophole of screwing the people they owed money to and then spending a fortune after it was settled.
They are the reason that points deductions for administration were brought in.
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My childhood/early ST holding life was haunted by MON's Leicester. I can't remember the exact numbers but we either didn't beat them at home or at all for a huge run of games until a Tommy Hitz right footer from the edge of the area got us a win at their place I think. Horrible team full of dirty gits like Savage and Dickov Also didn't Ade Akenbeyi score his first goal in about a million games in front of the Holte End? A toe poke from a yard whilst Dickov was fouling the keeper IIRC.
I'm upset they're back.
We drew two each.
PS. Howard Webb has retired. Very glad to see the back of him.
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Farewell, Howard the Coward!
Hopefully, the glowing tributes on your retirement will not include recollections of the non-penaltyaward at Wembley in 2010.
A bottler when it counted.
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Farewell, Howard the Coward!
Hopefully, the glowing tributes on your retirement will not include recollections of the non-penaltyaward at Wembley in 2010.
A bottler when it counted.
Shouldn't as that was Dowd the Rotund
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Farewell, Howard the Coward!
Hopefully, the glowing tributes on your retirement will not include recollections of the non-penaltyaward at Wembley in 2010.
A bottler when it counted.
Shouldn't as that was Dowd the Rotund
He's talking about the FA Cup Semi against Chelsea where we didn't get a penalty. Dowd did award the penalty in the Carling Cup Final - he just didn't send Vidic off.
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My childhood/early ST holding life was haunted by MON's Leicester. I can't remember the exact numbers but we either didn't beat them at home or at all for a huge run of games until a Tommy Hitz right footer from the edge of the area got us a win at their place I think. Horrible team full of dirty gits like Savage and Dickov Also didn't Ade Akenbeyi score his first goal in about a million games in front of the Holte End? A toe poke from a yard whilst Dickov was fouling the keeper IIRC.
I'm upset they're back.
PS. Howard Webb has retired. Very glad to see the back of him.
Don't forget horrible Taggert and Elliott, dirty bastards they were. We'd usually batter them for 90 minutes and end up losing.
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Not jumping on the anti-Webb brigade. He has consistently been on best officially, and by appearing in major finals and International tournaments has done this country proud. He did have a lack luster season last year so it is maybe a good time to get out.
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The hacienda
Finest club there ever was. Fantastic nights in there.
I am too young, but from the early 90s on it used to be full of the Gooch apparently, flashing their guns around the place.
Its apartments now. You can see it on the train just before Deans Gate on the way into Oxford Road.
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Luton Town - Mark flaming Pembridge.
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The hacienda
Finest club there ever was. Fantastic nights in there.
I am too young, but from the early 90s on it used to be full of the Gooch apparently, flashing their guns around the place.
Its apartments now. You can see it on the train just before Deans Gate on the way into Oxford Road.
Not just Gooch - Cheetham Hill and Salford as well. That's why it was much better to have gone in the late 80s, before it went to shit.
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Its odd becames sometimes the dislike for a club actually comes more from the impression you get of through the media, than such factors as their fans, ground, our record against them etc...
QPR are a bit like that for me. I saw Villa play them a couple of times during the 90s, and at that point there was something quite charming about them. They were a small modest club, with strong support who were able to punch above their weight for awhile. Also, my Mum's boss at the time was a QPR fan and he was a nice bloke. Anyway, it seems their money and over the top ambious has changed all that. And it would be good for Villa if they went down of course.
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Its odd becames sometimes the dislike for a club actually comes more from the impression you get of through the media, than such factors as their fans, ground, our record against them etc...
QPR are a bit like that for me. I saw Villa play them a couple of times during the 90s, and at that point there was something quite charming about them. They were a small modest club, with strong support who were able to punch above their weight for awhile. Also, my Mum's boss at the time was a QPR fan and he was a nice bloke. Anyway, it seems their money and over the top ambious has changed all that. And it would be good for Villa if they went down of course.
Doesn't help that they've got Appy Arry in charge either.
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Its odd becames sometimes the dislike for a club actually comes more from the impression you get of through the media, than such factors as their fans, ground, our record against them etc...
QPR are a bit like that for me. I saw Villa play them a couple of times during the 90s, and at that point there was something quite charming about them. They were a small modest club, with strong support who were able to punch above their weight for awhile. Also, my Mum's boss at the time was a QPR fan and he was a nice bloke. Anyway, it seems their money and over the top ambious has changed all that. And it would be good for Villa if they went down of course.
Doesn't help that they've got Appy Arry in charge either.
That applies to anyone he manages at any given time.
An utter twat
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Wimbledon,
always hated them for the way they played the way they cheated, abomination of a football club
(Apart from when they beat Liverpool in th FA cup, obviously that was ace)
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Did meet a nice AFC Wimbledon fan on a train last season, who was with another Villa fan, so you know sometimes the gods do shine on us :)