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Title: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 09, 2014, 08:12:43 PM: Tuesday 11th Feb 2014 KO 7.45pm

Them 1 Us 2

Can you say must win?
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on February 09, 2014, 08:14:44 PM: We need something to stop this thread exploding with venom!
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 09, 2014, 08:15:12 PM: I can. 0-2.

Missing poll alert!
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 09, 2014, 08:15:44 PM: Thank you, by the way. I'm back in self-imposed exile.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on February 09, 2014, 08:17:34 PM: We'll win this one. Cardiff are doomed. 1-3 Villa.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 09, 2014, 08:18:00 PM: Quote from: Legion on February 09, 2014, 08:15:12 PM
I can. 0-2.

Missing poll alert!

Ta da!
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 09, 2014, 08:20:55 PM: Yay! ": ?"
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on February 09, 2014, 08:31:05 PM: I've gone for a Cardiff win purely because my predictions have been shockingly wrong lately.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: David_Nab on February 09, 2014, 08:39:50 PM: BTTS score as neither can defend.

We are rubbish they are worse.Worried Bellamy is going to torment our 1 paced defence and Betrand looking likely to miss out means Bennent who has been injured all season or Luna coming in , neither of which fill me with confidence.

For me Bacuna back to RB ..3 man MF of KEA / Westwood and Delph.Albrighton and Gabby wide supporting Benteke.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on February 09, 2014, 08:41:40 PM: We lose this and it's squeeky bum time.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on February 09, 2014, 08:42:36 PM: A shock 1-4 win. Benteke x2, Weimann and a Clark header.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on February 09, 2014, 09:28:49 PM: Villa win 3-1 Benteke hatrick
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on February 09, 2014, 09:41:54 PM: Leeg isn't going.
We'll win.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: levico on February 09, 2014, 09:53:30 PM: If Vlaar is still out can't see anything but a win for Cardiff.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on February 09, 2014, 09:56:42 PM: Who usually obliges when a team badly needs a result? You know who. Two-nil, Cardiff.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve kirk on February 09, 2014, 10:05:01 PM: Score draw and at the moment I will take that.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on February 09, 2014, 10:11:07 PM: Let's hope we don't try and defend behind our own goal like we did at Goodison. For Gods sake Lambert lets get on the front foot and play to our strengths. Please.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richtheholtender on February 09, 2014, 10:23:45 PM: 2-0 Cardiff

Bellamy
Whittingham
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on February 09, 2014, 10:41:41 PM: 2-1 loss
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on February 09, 2014, 11:40:02 PM: 1-2. Cardiff are going down. Mind you, so are Fulham and they beat us.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: David_Nab on February 10, 2014, 12:03:23 AM: Just looked at fixtures

Cardiff V us
WBA V Chelsea
Fulham v Liverpool

We win and other 2 lose and we would have WBA (7) Cardiff (9) Fulham (10) gaps ,would certainly make me feel a little easier about staying in league.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on February 10, 2014, 12:40:33 AM: Quote from: David_Nab on February 09, 2014, 08:39:50 PM
BTTS score as neither can defend.

We are rubbish they are worse.Worried Bellamy is going to torment our 1 paced defence and Betrand looking likely to miss out means Bennent who has been injured all season or Luna coming in , neither of which fill me with confidence.

For me Bacuna back to RB ..3 man MF of KEA / Westwood and Delph.Albrighton and Gabby wide supporting Benteke.

Bellamy has only one goal this season.

Cardiff are utter shite and we should be beating them particularly away from home pretty handy.

Score first and we will win. If they score first, we will crumble and lose I reckon.

Albrighton will start and deservedly so.

--------------Guzan
Bacuna, Clark, Baker, Bertrand
Albrighton, Westwood, Delph, Gabby
Benteke, Weimann
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 10, 2014, 01:44:08 AM: this has to be a one step forward result after the two steps back results

so Im expected a suprising 3-1 Villa

but I am on Night Nurse
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on February 10, 2014, 08:13:41 AM: Really am getting worried with this now ill be happy if we just don't loose,1-1
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 08:21:31 AM: Quote from: David_Nab on February 10, 2014, 12:03:23 AM
Just looked at fixtures

Cardiff V us
WBA V Chelsea
Fulham v Liverpool

We win and other 2 lose and we would have WBA (7) Cardiff (9) Fulham (10) gaps ,would certainly make me feel a little easier about staying in league.

There's only one team who you can be sure of will absolutely destroy any logic like that or any feeling of a comfort zone...
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on February 10, 2014, 08:26:51 AM: Quote from: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 08:21:31 AM
Quote from: David_Nab on February 10, 2014, 12:03:23 AM
Just looked at fixtures

Cardiff V us
WBA V Chelsea
Fulham v Liverpool

We win and other 2 lose and we would have WBA (7) Cardiff (9) Fulham (10) gaps ,would certainly make me feel a little easier about staying in league.

There's only one team who you can be sure of will absolutely destroy any logic like that or any feeling of a comfort zone...

Time to make a killing at the bookies.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on February 10, 2014, 08:45:10 AM: Quote from: brontebilly on February 10, 2014, 12:40:33 AM
Quote from: David_Nab on February 09, 2014, 08:39:50 PM
BTTS score as neither can defend.

We are rubbish they are worse.Worried Bellamy is going to torment our 1 paced defence and Betrand looking likely to miss out means Bennent who has been injured all season or Luna coming in , neither of which fill me with confidence.

For me Bacuna back to RB ..3 man MF of KEA / Westwood and Delph.Albrighton and Gabby wide supporting Benteke.

Bellamy has only one goal this season.

thats me sticking money on him scoring.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 10, 2014, 08:48:53 AM: I was pretty surprised with Cardiff in their derby game. Not only did they look poor, but I thought they would at least put some time into Swansea and make it a bit more blood and thunder.

They just turned up and pottered around for 90 minutes.

A very good chance of three points for us here. I think we should be going with 4-3-3. Albrighton to come in for Weimann, Bacuna to drop into full back and KEA to return into a three man midfield.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on February 10, 2014, 08:51:17 AM: I'd be very tempted to give Helenuis a run at some point tomorrow, Cardiff looked very iffy in the air against Swansea.

I'm going 1-3. Benteke (2) and Gabby. Whitingham for them.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 10, 2014, 08:53:48 AM: I would fancy Albrighton up against their fullback John. He looked a massive liability.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 10, 2014, 09:13:32 AM: It's a big game for us as we desperately need a win for confidence levels almost as much as the points but a massive game for Cardiff who could soon be reaching the point of no return. An early Villa goal will probably see them collapse.

2-0 Villa
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on February 10, 2014, 09:34:15 AM: Quote from: Richard E on February 09, 2014, 08:17:34 PM
We'll win this one. Cardiff are doomed. 1-3 Villa.

Palace and sunderland were reportedly doomed at Xmas , west ham were a fortnight ago , now its Cardiffs turn but a look at the table suggests its so tight that anyone can go down and anyone can survive .

They will come at us from the start and I expect a very tough game , I would take a point happily but fear a Cardiff win 2-0.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mj on February 10, 2014, 09:52:34 AM: I just don't know anymore. Would take a point, would love a good performance.

Truth be told I'd rather we wasn't playing again so soon after that shambles on Saturday let alone for it to be on TV. Wet cold Tuesday night in Wales against a crap team in poor form desperate for a kick start - and we really do like to oblige when teams / players are having a tough time.

It's really not one to look forward to is it?
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on February 10, 2014, 09:56:06 AM: I'm confident about this one more than I was about Saturday.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on February 10, 2014, 10:04:33 AM: If Bertrand and Vlaar are fit

Guzan
Bacuna Vlaar Clark Bertrand
Westwood Delph
Albrighton Weimman Gabby
Benteke

Get Weimann central with Albrighton wide.

Lowton was piss poor v West Ham.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on February 10, 2014, 10:11:48 AM: I think this game requires a bit of nous. Cardiff will target this as the game they need to win to kickstart OGS's reign. I don't think Lambert has a tactical bone anywhere in his body. We expend so much energy too that a two day rest might see us a bit jaded.

2-1 Cardiff.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 10, 2014, 10:19:23 AM: We badly need to win this game.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brian Taylor on February 10, 2014, 10:23:18 AM: Must win..It is nearly my birthday!! Come on da Villa!
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: OzVilla on February 10, 2014, 10:36:52 AM: Can't think of a side Cardiff (or any other struggling team) would rather play than us right now. We are a poor side.

2-0 to them.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 10, 2014, 10:46:44 AM: Not hopeful about this one, would settle for a point, it'll be ugly whatever the outcome.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on February 10, 2014, 10:57:00 AM: If it goes ahead then Villa win. The weather looks a bit naughty.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on February 10, 2014, 11:07:31 AM: If we don't get a result I really fear for us.

Even a draw would just give us something to build on. We don't draw enough tight games with Lambert. A point away to Stoke and at home to Palace and we'd be looking a bit more comfortable now.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on February 10, 2014, 11:08:04 AM: 1-4 Benteke x2 Gabby and Delph.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on February 10, 2014, 11:57:21 AM: Quote from: PaulTheVillan on February 10, 2014, 10:04:33 AM
If Bertrand and Vlaar are fit

Guzan
Bacuna Vlaar Clark Bertrand
Westwood Delph
Albrighton Weimman Gabby
Benteke

Get Weimann central with Albrighton wide.

Lowton was piss poor v West Ham.

This is the team I would play. We need to attack them and go for the win, our away form is what could keep us up.

I fear Lambert being very defensive though with the mindset that he can't afford another defeat after Saturday, so could see this being a 0-0 devoid of any quality, bit like some of our aways earlier in the season (WHam, Hull).
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on February 10, 2014, 12:06:02 PM: Quote from: TonyD on February 10, 2014, 10:57:00 AM
If it goes ahead then Villa win. The weather looks a bit naughty.

Really? No doubts about it whatsoever as far as I'm aware .
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 10, 2014, 12:07:12 PM: Vlaar and Bertrand looking doubtful, Baker & Clark pairing means they'll score at least 1.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 10, 2014, 12:16:43 PM: I would love to see Gabby and Albrighton from any re-starts at the back, pushed as wide and as high onto Fabio and John as they can possibly be. Both are woeful full backs and we can really wrestle the midfield, in my opinion at least, by forcing Cardiff to have their widemen drop into help them out.

Man United did the exact same thing to us, with Rooney dropping deep into the space their position had created between defence and midfield. Wiemann will more than likely start and I would have him busying himself centrally in that space.

They're a piss poor side, ripe for the plucking, as long as we're brave enough and critically, smart enough, about the way we go about our business.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on February 10, 2014, 12:31:04 PM: I think we'll get something from this, at least a draw anyway. Gabby will be massive for us.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 10, 2014, 01:19:05 PM: If Vlaar and Betrand are out, that eliminates pretty much any competant defenders we have as Clark is hopeless without Vlaar.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on February 10, 2014, 01:19:06 PM: 1-1 Draw for me with Benteke scoring.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on February 10, 2014, 01:30:32 PM: 1-0 to us.

Ian Olney to bag the winner
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 10, 2014, 01:34:40 PM: Quote from: Ads on February 10, 2014, 12:16:43 PM

They're a piss poor side, ripe for the plucking,

How many times have I heard this
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on February 10, 2014, 01:35:25 PM: Quote from: JUAN PABLO on February 10, 2014, 01:34:40 PM
Quote from: Ads on February 10, 2014, 12:16:43 PM

They're a piss poor side, ripe for the plucking,

How many times have I heard this

Loads if you go on other club's forums just before they play us, I'd imagine!
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on February 10, 2014, 01:50:26 PM: Quote from: Richard E on February 10, 2014, 01:35:25 PM
Quote from: JUAN PABLO on February 10, 2014, 01:34:40 PM
Quote from: Ads on February 10, 2014, 12:16:43 PM

They're a piss poor side, ripe for the plucking,

How many times have I heard this

Loads if you go on other club's forums just before they play us, I'd imagine!

Ha ha - very good point!
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: David_Nab on February 10, 2014, 01:51:35 PM: Quote from: Richard E on February 10, 2014, 01:35:25 PM
Quote from: JUAN PABLO on February 10, 2014, 01:34:40 PM
Quote from: Ads on February 10, 2014, 12:16:43 PM

They're a piss poor side, ripe for the plucking,

How many times have I heard this

Loads if you go on other club's forums just before they play us, I'd imagine!

Especially if they are playing us at Villa Park.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on February 10, 2014, 01:59:49 PM: Quote from: JUAN PABLO on February 10, 2014, 01:34:40 PM
Quote from: Ads on February 10, 2014, 12:16:43 PM

They're a piss poor side, ripe for the plucking,

How many times have I heard this

Which team is he talking about?
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on February 10, 2014, 02:13:03 PM: We are better away from home, think we will win this game 2-0 - Benteke and Gabby with the goals.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on February 10, 2014, 02:14:22 PM: Quote from: Jon Crofts on February 10, 2014, 12:07:12 PM
Vlaar and Bertrand looking doubtful, Baker & Clark pairing means they'll score at least 1.

It never takes long for our new players to get crocked, does it?
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on February 10, 2014, 02:14:52 PM: Fuck me. A back four of Bennett, Clark, Baker and Lowton. God help us.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on February 10, 2014, 02:27:17 PM: Quote from: Des Little on February 10, 2014, 02:14:52 PM
Fuck me. A back four of Bennett, Clark, Baker and Lowton. God help us.

Lets hope Lambert doesn't decide Luna can fill in at cb
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on February 10, 2014, 02:27:42 PM: Quote from: Malandro on February 10, 2014, 02:27:17 PM
Quote from: Des Little on February 10, 2014, 02:14:52 PM
Fuck me. A back four of Bennett, Clark, Baker and Lowton. God help us.

Lets hope Lambert doesn't decide Luna can fill in at cb

Where's NRC when you need him ?
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tuco Salamanca on February 10, 2014, 02:34:04 PM: Cardiff to win 2-1.

Lambert to be proud of the way we played in the 2nd half.

Villa fans to lose the will to live.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mattjpa on February 10, 2014, 02:38:29 PM: 2-0, goals from Bellamy and Whittingham. Chants of you dont know what you're doing and the beginning of the end for Lambo
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on February 10, 2014, 03:20:49 PM: 3-0 Cardiff
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 10, 2014, 03:40:07 PM: Quote from: Dave Clark Five on February 10, 2014, 02:14:22 PM
Quote from: Jon Crofts on February 10, 2014, 12:07:12 PM
Vlaar and Bertrand looking doubtful, Baker & Clark pairing means they'll score at least 1.

It never takes long for our new players to get crocked, does it?

If they're any good no.

We will sign a good four top quality players in the summer. Have a cracking first six weeks, then they'll all get injured and we will be back to playing Tonev and Herd.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 03:50:20 PM: Quote from: mattjpa on February 10, 2014, 02:38:29 PM
2-0, goals from Bellamy and Whittingham. Chants of you dont know what you're doing and the beginning of the end for Lambo

Would you take that if it meant getting rid of the incompetent idiot?! You dread to think who the equally incompetent Faulkner might appoint instead. Is Tony Mowbray doing anything these days?
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2014, 03:54:15 PM: Quote from: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: mattjpa on February 10, 2014, 02:38:29 PM
2-0, goals from Bellamy and Whittingham. Chants of you dont know what you're doing and the beginning of the end for Lambo

Would you take that if it meant getting rid of the incompetent idiot?! You dread to think who the equally incompetent Faulkner might appoint instead. Is Tony Mowbray doing anything these days?

Anyone who thinks that can fuck off and support somebody else.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 10, 2014, 03:58:05 PM: I have to be up for work at half 6 on Wednesday and its probably about three hours from Cardiff to my house in the north west, so no, I wouldn't take a loss. Mind you, they could play in my back garden and I would never hope for a loss, I am not sure why a Villa fan or a fan of any club for that matter, would ever want their side to lose.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 03:58:25 PM: Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2014, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: mattjpa on February 10, 2014, 02:38:29 PM
2-0, goals from Bellamy and Whittingham. Chants of you dont know what you're doing and the beginning of the end for Lambo

Would you take that if it meant getting rid of the incompetent idiot?! You dread to think who the equally incompetent Faulkner might appoint instead. Is Tony Mowbray doing anything these days?

Anyone who thinks that can fuck off and support somebody else.

I think a lot of people are tempted to do the first Dave but not the second
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 10, 2014, 03:59:01 PM: If you want the Villa to lose, you're not really supporting them are you?
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on February 10, 2014, 03:59:23 PM: Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2014, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: mattjpa on February 10, 2014, 02:38:29 PM
2-0, goals from Bellamy and Whittingham. Chants of you dont know what you're doing and the beginning of the end for Lambo

Would you take that if it meant getting rid of the incompetent idiot?! You dread to think who the equally incompetent Faulkner might appoint instead. Is Tony Mowbray doing anything these days?

Anyone who thinks that can fuck off and support somebody else.

Quite right. There is never a good reason for accepting/wanting our club to lose.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2014, 03:59:41 PM: Quote from: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 03:58:25 PM
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2014, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: mattjpa on February 10, 2014, 02:38:29 PM
2-0, goals from Bellamy and Whittingham. Chants of you dont know what you're doing and the beginning of the end for Lambo

Would you take that if it meant getting rid of the incompetent idiot?! You dread to think who the equally incompetent Faulkner might appoint instead. Is Tony Mowbray doing anything these days?

Anyone who thinks that can fuck off and support somebody else.

I think a lot of people are tempted to do the first Dave but not the second

Anyone who wants us to lose can do whatever they like.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on February 10, 2014, 04:09:16 PM: Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2014, 03:59:41 PM
Quote from: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 03:58:25 PM
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2014, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: mattjpa on February 10, 2014, 02:38:29 PM
2-0, goals from Bellamy and Whittingham. Chants of you dont know what you're doing and the beginning of the end for Lambo

Would you take that if it meant getting rid of the incompetent idiot?! You dread to think who the equally incompetent Faulkner might appoint instead. Is Tony Mowbray doing anything these days?

Anyone who thinks that can fuck off and support somebody else.

I think a lot of people are tempted to do the first Dave but not the second

Anyone who wants us to lose can do whatever they like.
What if us losing meant West Brom or Birmingham getting relegated?
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on February 10, 2014, 04:10:05 PM: The closest I've ever come to that situation was under McLeish, because he was never ever going to get better and you knew it would take something for the scales to fall from our oblivious owner's eyes. But as soon as you see those teams come out of the tunnel all of that type of thinking vanishes without a trace, and you'll take absolutely anything which ends up with Aston Villa three points better off in the table than they were at the start of the day. You can be as high-minded and theoretical as you like, but you want Villa to win every game they play or you're not really a Villa fan.

Supertom, that's how Blues and Baggies think, and it's small time. We're bigger than that.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on February 10, 2014, 04:13:34 PM: Quote from: supertom on February 10, 2014, 04:09:16 PM
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2014, 03:59:41 PM
Quote from: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 03:58:25 PM
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2014, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: mattjpa on February 10, 2014, 02:38:29 PM
2-0, goals from Bellamy and Whittingham. Chants of you dont know what you're doing and the beginning of the end for Lambo

Would you take that if it meant getting rid of the incompetent idiot?! You dread to think who the equally incompetent Faulkner might appoint instead. Is Tony Mowbray doing anything these days?

Anyone who thinks that can fuck off and support somebody else.

I think a lot of people are tempted to do the first Dave but not the second

Anyone who wants us to lose can do whatever they like.
What if us losing meant West Brom or Birmingham getting relegated?

I still couldn't do it even then, although it would be a dilemma...
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2014, 04:15:31 PM: Think back to the end of last season, when the Stripeys lost to every bottom of the league club they played then turned in to Barcelona on the last day. There will always be a suspicion about that - would you want us dragged down to that level?
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 04:17:00 PM: If it meant seeing Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool or Spurs or even better, any combination of three out of that four, get relegated and we were safe, I'd be very very tempted. Then again, pigs might fly...
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on February 10, 2014, 04:22:32 PM: Hopefully the 4 points we took off them from losing positions this season will be an adequate contribution on our part to Albion's impressive effort to get relegated this season. If they end this season like they did last they've had it. (Crosses fingers.)
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 10, 2014, 04:35:29 PM: does Bellamy miss the game . I see he has been charged by the FA
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 10, 2014, 04:45:55 PM: He should do, he just elbowed the Swansea player on the back of the head, the little snide.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on February 10, 2014, 05:43:39 PM: The FA's statement read: "Cardiff City’s Craig Bellamy has been charged by The FA for violent conduct following an incident which was not seen by the match officials but caught on video.

"The incident occurred during Cardiff’s game against Swansea City on Saturday 8 February 2014. Bellamy has until 6pm on Tuesday 11 February 2014 to respond to the charge."

Does this mean if he pleads innocent he can play tomorrow ?
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on February 10, 2014, 05:47:51 PM: Quote from: supertom on February 10, 2014, 04:09:16 PM
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2014, 03:59:41 PM
Quote from: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 03:58:25 PM
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2014, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: mattjpa on February 10, 2014, 02:38:29 PM
2-0, goals from Bellamy and Whittingham. Chants of you dont know what you're doing and the beginning of the end for Lambo

Would you take that if it meant getting rid of the incompetent idiot?! You dread to think who the equally incompetent Faulkner might appoint instead. Is Tony Mowbray doing anything these days?

Anyone who thinks that can fuck off and support somebody else.

I think a lot of people are tempted to do the first Dave but not the second

Anyone who wants us to lose can do whatever they like.
What if us losing meant West Brom or Birmingham getting relegated?

I wouldn't want to lose before the game started. If we lost and they went down, well it would be their fault for being so shit during the previous 38 games.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 10, 2014, 05:49:36 PM: I never want us to lose. I'd definitely never hope we'd lose just so that our friends down the road got relegated. We're bigger and better than that.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: baddowvillans on February 10, 2014, 05:53:33 PM: Correct Eastie. If Cardiff contest the charge he will play tomorrow. They have an FA cup game and Hull in the three he would miss so I guess it depends on whether they think he can help deliver 6 key league points
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: jeowje on February 10, 2014, 06:05:21 PM: I never want us to lose, but i would respect the feelings of another fan at their wits end with a manager or regime who felt that one more defeat might be a catalyst for positive change.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on February 10, 2014, 06:51:32 PM: Quote from: Clampy on February 10, 2014, 05:47:51 PM
Quote from: supertom on February 10, 2014, 04:09:16 PM
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2014, 03:59:41 PM
Quote from: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 03:58:25 PM
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2014, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: mattjpa on February 10, 2014, 02:38:29 PM
2-0, goals from Bellamy and Whittingham. Chants of you dont know what you're doing and the beginning of the end for Lambo

Would you take that if it meant getting rid of the incompetent idiot?! You dread to think who the equally incompetent Faulkner might appoint instead. Is Tony Mowbray doing anything these days?

Anyone who thinks that can fuck off and support somebody else.

I think a lot of people are tempted to do the first Dave but not the second

Anyone who wants us to lose can do whatever they like.
What if us losing meant West Brom or Birmingham getting relegated?

I wouldn't want to lose before the game started. If we lost and they went down, well it would be their fault for being so shit during the previous 38 games.
Just to clarify, I wouldn't want us to lose a game either.
It is a shame however one of the few bright spots this season is actually laughing at Man Utd as opposed to what we're actually doing on the pitch.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2014, 07:18:43 PM: Quote from: jeowje on February 10, 2014, 06:05:21 PM
I never want us to lose, but i would respect the feelings of another fan at their wits end with a manager or regime who felt that one more defeat might be a catalyst for positive change.

You respect a traitor?
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on February 10, 2014, 07:22:47 PM: With Vlaar and Bertrand doubtful, the spectre of our back four from Hell is looming larger. Cardiff are a poor side but I can see Lowton, Clark, Baker and Bennett making them look like the Brazil of The Valleys.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on February 10, 2014, 07:42:34 PM: Quote from: Legion on February 10, 2014, 05:49:36 PM
I never want us to lose. I'd definitely never hope we'd lose just so that our friends down the road got relegated. We're bigger and better than that.

That's a bit strong. ;)
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on February 10, 2014, 07:59:10 PM: Knowing Villa, they will make Kenwyne, Bellamy and Ole look great, when every other team would just grind their noses in to the dust.

Maybe Lambo will go 532 as the back 4 we all dread would not be up to it. But that would mean starting with Marc on the bench...

Guzan-Bacuna, Lowton, Clark, Baker, Bennett-KEA, Delph, Westwood-Gabby, Benteke. Eek!
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 10, 2014, 08:00:35 PM: Albrighton deserves a start.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on February 10, 2014, 08:07:08 PM: Quote from: Legion on February 10, 2014, 08:00:35 PM
Albrighton deserves a start.

And that is an understatement. He was electrifying on Saturday, whilst his team mates were stultifying.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on February 10, 2014, 08:07:24 PM: I'd play Albrighton right and Bennett left mid (I think he looks good going forward). Westwood and Delph in the middle with Gabby and Benteke up top.
Bacuna right back. Vlaar, despite crippled would easily start ahead of Baker who is an accident waiting to happen. And it often does.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on February 10, 2014, 08:09:00 PM: Quote from: paulcomben on February 10, 2014, 08:07:08 PM
Quote from: Legion on February 10, 2014, 08:00:35 PM
Albrighton deserves a start.

And that is an understatement. He was electrifying on Saturday, whilst his team mates were stultifying.

He was the best player on the pitch. However, he was helped by possibly the worst left-back in the world. He made Luna look like Ashley Cole in his prime.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on February 10, 2014, 08:10:55 PM: Got a good feeling about tomorrow. I'd put money on us winning and deserving it. Whenever we're down and out, we seem to be able to pull something out the bag (he says in hope...).
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villa_cads on February 10, 2014, 08:13:51 PM: Quote from: PaulTheVillan on February 10, 2014, 10:04:33 AM
If Bertrand and Vlaar are fit

Guzan
Bacuna Vlaar Clark Bertrand
Westwood Delph
Albrighton Weimman Gabby
Benteke

Get Weimann central with Albrighton wide.

Lowton was piss poor v West Ham.

I like this, pretty sure Weimann played there at Liverpool didn't he?
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 10, 2014, 09:07:55 PM: 2-2. Gabby and Benteke for us.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on February 10, 2014, 09:23:28 PM: If OGS aka the pernicious pixie throws caution to the wind we will fuck them up big time. If he he follows Steve Bruce's plan and sets up like an away team playing at home, they will win a ghastly battle of attrition and we shall sink further into the slough of despond.

Also, if Vlaar and Bertrand are both out, and either of our full backs are skinned in the opening 8 minutes and 33 seconds then by all means make massive bets against us to ameliorate the forthcoming pain.

Cardiff 2 Villa 6
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on February 10, 2014, 09:36:55 PM: Quote from: villa_cads on February 10, 2014, 08:13:51 PM
Quote from: PaulTheVillan on February 10, 2014, 10:04:33 AM
If Bertrand and Vlaar are fit

Guzan
Bacuna Vlaar Clark Bertrand
Westwood Delph
Albrighton Weimman Gabby
Benteke

Get Weimann central with Albrighton wide.

Lowton was piss poor v West Ham.

I like this, pretty sure Weimann played there at Liverpool didn't he?

Hope so, but doubt that Vlaar & Plastic are fit, which makes the defence much more fragile.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on February 10, 2014, 09:40:37 PM: Hopefully Bellamy is banned. I hope for at least a draw. No doubts Zaha will tear us a new one as we struggle to contain wingers. Cardiff are there for the taking and the OGS, new manager thing doesn't seem to have bitten too hard. Come on Villa, give us hope!!
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on February 10, 2014, 09:48:00 PM: Quote from: Ads on February 10, 2014, 03:40:07 PM
Quote from: Dave Clark Five on February 10, 2014, 02:14:22 PM
Quote from: Jon Crofts on February 10, 2014, 12:07:12 PM
Vlaar and Bertrand looking doubtful, Baker & Clark pairing means they'll score at least 1.

It never takes long for our new players to get crocked, does it?

If they're any good no.

We will sign a good four top quality players in the summer. Have a cracking first six weeks, then they'll all get injured and we will be back to playing Tonev and Herd.

I have always maintained that, if we signed the best eleven players in the world, we would be fielding the reserves within a few weeks. 'Twas ever thus.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Kingthing on February 10, 2014, 10:00:03 PM: Quote from: Richard E on February 09, 2014, 08:17:34 PM
We'll win this one. Cardiff are doomed. 1-3 Villa.

So were Palace when we played them.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Kingthing on February 10, 2014, 10:05:44 PM: Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2014, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: mattjpa on February 10, 2014, 02:38:29 PM
2-0, goals from Bellamy and Whittingham. Chants of you dont know what you're doing and the beginning of the end for Lambo

Would you take that if it meant getting rid of the incompetent idiot?! You dread to think who the equally incompetent Faulkner might appoint instead. Is Tony Mowbray doing anything these days?

Anyone who thinks that can fuck off and support somebody else.

Judging by Saturdays post match thread there was a rush to lump on at 10/1 for us to get relegated.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fin Feds Dad on February 10, 2014, 10:15:38 PM: 2-1 to Cardiff (Gabby)

''3 more years , you're having a laugh '' is my Song for Europe.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 10, 2014, 10:50:00 PM: Wouldn't it be great to have a decent performance and result?

Remember after the Albion game? Or Southampton?

A big chunk of happiness on a weekday night.

Come on, Villa, FFS, let's do it.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on February 10, 2014, 10:57:37 PM: Fuck me, only just realised this is tomorrow night.

Hmmm. We're great away and they're shite everywhere. Let's say 3-2 to us.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 10, 2014, 11:09:59 PM: Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2014, 04:15:31 PM
Think back to the end of last season, when the Stripeys lost to every bottom of the league club they played then turned in to Barcelona on the last day. There will always be a suspicion about that - would you want us dragged down to that level?

Since they won on boxing day 2012 they've won 8 out of the next 44 league games, they are just shit, no conspiracy.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on February 10, 2014, 11:10:51 PM: Quote from: Fin Feds Dad on February 10, 2014, 10:15:38 PM
2-1 to Cardiff (Gabby)

''3 more years , you're having a laugh '' is my Song for Europe.

Well it's no "My Lovely Horse".
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on February 10, 2014, 11:11:04 PM: I haven't read, but will guess something similar has been mentioned. If Vlaar isn't playing I have very little faith. Very optimistic 2.2 if he isn't. 1.2 if he is.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: FranzBiberkopf on February 11, 2014, 08:43:48 AM: Cold. Wet. Windy. Under floodlights. Cardiff will know they have to take the three points or their as good as gone.

2-0 to them.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on February 11, 2014, 08:45:26 AM: Quote from: edgysatsuma89 on February 10, 2014, 11:11:04 PM
I haven't read, but will guess something similar has been mentioned. If Vlaar isn't playing I have very little faith. Very optimistic 2.2 if he isn't. 1.2 if he is.

Vlaar doubtful. Which usually translates as Vlaar out.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on February 11, 2014, 09:12:44 AM: Quote from: FranzBiberkopf on February 11, 2014, 08:43:48 AM
Cold. Wet. Windy. Under floodlights. Cardiff will know they have to take the three points or their as good as gone.

2-0 to them.

add to all that our shit performances, I think I'll stay at home in front of the wood burner
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on February 11, 2014, 09:21:38 AM: Its raining heavily everywhere. Quite possible the match will be called off I should think.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: DesBremner on February 11, 2014, 09:36:55 AM: Quote from: Ron Manager on February 11, 2014, 09:21:38 AM
Its raining heavily everywhere. Quite possible the match will be called off I should think.

You sound like my Sunday league manager "Lads its pissing down again game will be probably cancelled"
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on February 11, 2014, 09:42:32 AM: we need outside influences that make proper football impossible, let the game go ahead
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on February 11, 2014, 09:50:34 AM: Quote from: Ron Manager on February 11, 2014, 09:21:38 AM
Its raining heavily everywhere. Quite possible the match will be called off I should think.
Noah and his Ark have just gone under the Severn bridge.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 11, 2014, 09:56:53 AM: Reading a couple of Cardiff forums and the majority expect us to win including a few that think we'll really stuff them. They know they're poor and not good enough for the PL so are just trying to enjoy it while it lasts.

Looks like they may try to play us on the counter attack using the pace of Zaha, Noone and Campbell. I'm picturing both teams giving the ball to back each other in the hope that one team will commit players forward so the other can counter attack.

Saying that, I can't see anything other than a Villa win. It won't paper over the cracks of this season but it will go a long way in keeping us up.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on February 11, 2014, 09:57:33 AM: Quote from: Ron Manager on February 11, 2014, 09:21:38 AM
Its raining heavily everywhere. Quite possible the match will be called off I should think.

In that case, every game in the country will be off. Damm that rain.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on February 11, 2014, 10:06:31 AM: I know we were shit against west ham, but they've had a bit of a turnaround int their form recently and we were at home, where we generally underperform.

This match is away though to one of the shittest, if not the shittest team in the league.

Can't believe 52% are predicting a Cardiff win. Vlaar is a big loss for us, but we'll out score them.

3-2 Villa
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on February 11, 2014, 10:09:40 AM: Keeping up with tonights game on the match thread only tonight.
Can one of the long standing members set one up ?
And a post match one ?
Go on PWS, bring us some luck.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 11, 2014, 10:11:14 AM: Quote from: Ron Manager on February 11, 2014, 09:21:38 AM
Its raining heavily everywhere. Quite possible the match will be called off I should think.

Have you seen the weather forecasts, and in particular the big orange ball they've got over Cardiff for most of the day?
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 11, 2014, 10:14:21 AM: Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 11, 2014, 10:11:14 AM
Quote from: Ron Manager on February 11, 2014, 09:21:38 AM
Its raining heavily everywhere. Quite possible the match will be called off I should think.

Have you seen the weather forecasts, and in particular the big orange ball they've got over Cardiff for most of the day?

We're playing with an orange ball tonight?
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dekko on February 11, 2014, 10:21:10 AM: A lot of this comes down to how Solskajieireiierayyer plays it. If they play like an away team and try and get us on the break then we'll have real trouble breaking them down, because thats what we do.

That said, apparently the atmosphere down there has been getting pretty hostile and toxic when they don't go out and attack from the first whistle, which should play into our hands.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on February 11, 2014, 10:31:10 AM: Quote from: Rudy Lambert on February 11, 2014, 10:14:21 AM
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 11, 2014, 10:11:14 AM
Quote from: Ron Manager on February 11, 2014, 09:21:38 AM
Its raining heavily everywhere. Quite possible the match will be called off I should think.

Have you seen the weather forecasts, and in particular the big orange ball they've got over Cardiff for most of the day?

We're playing with an orange ball tonight?
In flippers and wet suits as well.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on February 11, 2014, 10:32:40 AM: Its dry here so the unless it blasts it down this afternoon I think the game will be on.

I thought they were crap against Swansea last weekend, crap against us at Villa Park....I think we need a kick up the arse, a few killer crosses from Alby and 3 pts is getting seriously important now more than ever with teams around us picking up some form.

1-2
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on February 11, 2014, 10:39:02 AM: We should enjoy ourselves tonight. Cardiff and Swansea are the closest we're going to get to European football for many years to come.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on February 11, 2014, 10:44:44 AM: Narrow defeat
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Boz on February 11, 2014, 10:46:55 AM: Quote from: Kingthing on February 10, 2014, 10:05:44 PM
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2014, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: mattjpa on February 10, 2014, 02:38:29 PM
2-0, goals from Bellamy and Whittingham. Chants of you dont know what you're doing and the beginning of the end for Lambo

Would you take that if it meant getting rid of the incompetent idiot?! You dread to think who the equally incompetent Faulkner might appoint instead. Is Tony Mowbray doing anything these days?

Anyone who thinks that can fuck off and support somebody else.

Judging by Saturdays post match thread there was a rush to lump on at 10/1 for us to get relegated.

16/1 before the match was an opportunity missed.

After tonight, could be 8/1
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on February 11, 2014, 10:51:48 AM: Quote from: Boz on February 11, 2014, 10:46:55 AM
Quote from: Kingthing on February 10, 2014, 10:05:44 PM
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2014, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: richard moore on February 10, 2014, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: mattjpa on February 10, 2014, 02:38:29 PM
2-0, goals from Bellamy and Whittingham. Chants of you dont know what you're doing and the beginning of the end for Lambo

Would you take that if it meant getting rid of the incompetent idiot?! You dread to think who the equally incompetent Faulkner might appoint instead. Is Tony Mowbray doing anything these days?

Anyone who thinks that can fuck off and support somebody else.

Judging by Saturdays post match thread there was a rush to lump on at 10/1 for us to get relegated.

16/1 before the match was an opportunity missed.

After tonight, could be 8/1
Never had a bet against Villa, never will. Some things are just to sacred.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 11, 2014, 11:00:17 AM: If he doesn't start Albrighton, he's nuts.

We looked far more different, varied with him on Saturday. More than anything I hope we don't carry on playing so narrow for much longer. It hardly ever works, and on the whole, it's horrible to watch.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 11, 2014, 11:02:19 AM: My Grandad died yesterday, so I'm hoping Villa can bring a bit of cheer tonight.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fergal on February 11, 2014, 11:02:26 AM: We need 4 wins, this could be one of them... Villa to win 3-1
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on February 11, 2014, 11:11:47 AM: Despite our innumerable flaws, if there's one thing we're good at it's playing away from home against teams who keep the ball more than they threaten with it. This is, on paper, perhaps the archetypal Villa win under Lambert. Let's hope it pans out that way, because my god we need a win right now.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 11, 2014, 11:22:25 AM: Quote from: PaulWinch again on February 11, 2014, 11:02:19 AM
My Grandad died yesterday, so I'm hoping Villa can bring a bit of cheer tonight.

Sorry for your loss.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 11, 2014, 11:24:45 AM: Quote from: cdbullyweefan on February 11, 2014, 11:22:25 AM
Quote from: PaulWinch again on February 11, 2014, 11:02:19 AM
My Grandad died yesterday, so I'm hoping Villa can bring a bit of cheer tonight.

Sorry for your loss.

Ditto.

A rare occasion, though, when the Villa match won't be the most depressing thing to happen to you in a week.

;-)
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fergal on February 11, 2014, 11:25:57 AM: Quote from: cdbullyweefan on February 11, 2014, 11:22:25 AM
Quote from: PaulWinch again on February 11, 2014, 11:02:19 AM
My Grandad died yesterday, so I'm hoping Villa can bring a bit of cheer tonight.

Sorry for your loss.
Condolences.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 11, 2014, 11:27:51 AM: Thanks guys, hopefully the Villa will raise a few spirits tonight! It's an important game.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on February 11, 2014, 11:29:51 AM: Quote from: PaulWinch again on February 11, 2014, 11:27:51 AM
Thanks guys, hopefully the Villa will raise a few spirits tonight! It's an important game.

Sorry to hear of your loss paul .
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on February 11, 2014, 11:30:07 AM: Quote from: Fergal on February 11, 2014, 11:25:57 AM
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on February 11, 2014, 11:22:25 AM
Quote from: PaulWinch again on February 11, 2014, 11:02:19 AM
My Grandad died yesterday, so I'm hoping Villa can bring a bit of cheer tonight.

Sorry for your loss.
Condolences.

yeah sorry to hear that PaulWinch. my condolences too
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on February 11, 2014, 11:33:28 AM: Quote from: Dr Butler on February 11, 2014, 11:30:07 AM
Quote from: Fergal on February 11, 2014, 11:25:57 AM
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on February 11, 2014, 11:22:25 AM
Quote from: PaulWinch again on February 11, 2014, 11:02:19 AM
My Grandad died yesterday, so I'm hoping Villa can bring a bit of cheer tonight.

Sorry for your loss.
Condolences.

yeah sorry to hear that PaulWinch. my condolences too

Sorry to hear that as well. Hope the boys win tonight for you.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 11, 2014, 12:04:06 PM: Quote from: danlanza on February 11, 2014, 10:09:40 AM
Keeping up with tonights game on the match thread only tonight.
Can one of the long standing members set one up ?
And a post match one ?
Go on PWS, bring us some luck.

?

They will be set up in due course as they always have been.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: RussellC on February 11, 2014, 12:31:42 PM: Quote from: Clampy on February 11, 2014, 11:33:28 AM
Quote from: Dr Butler on February 11, 2014, 11:30:07 AM
Quote from: Fergal on February 11, 2014, 11:25:57 AM
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on February 11, 2014, 11:22:25 AM
Quote from: PaulWinch again on February 11, 2014, 11:02:19 AM
My Grandad died yesterday, so I'm hoping Villa can bring a bit of cheer tonight.

Sorry for your loss.
Condolences.

yeah sorry to hear that PaulWinch. my condolences too

Sorry to hear that as well. Hope the boys win tonight for you.

My condolences also. Would be a nice touch if Villa could provide some cheer tonight.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tuco Salamanca on February 11, 2014, 12:56:26 PM: Quote from: robbo1874 on February 11, 2014, 10:06:31 AM
I know we were shit against west ham, but they've had a bit of a turnaround int their form recently and we were at home, where we generally underperform.

This match is away though to one of the shittest, if not the shittest team in the league.

Can't believe 52% are predicting a Cardiff win. Vlaar is a big loss for us, but we'll out score them.

3-2 Villa

We lost at Fulham. Abjectly.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 11, 2014, 01:03:26 PM: My bet for this game is going to be 2-2.

We can't defend, but we can score away.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on February 11, 2014, 01:12:26 PM: Quote from: pauliewalnuts on February 11, 2014, 01:03:26 PM
My bet for this game is going to be 2-2.

We can't defend, but we can score away.

Same here. 2-2 for me.

IF Vlaar is fit and starts, maybe 2-1 but if he is out, we will hopefully scrape a draw.

Albrighton and Gabby wide of Benteke, with Westwood, Delph and KEA and Weimann an option from the bench for me. But we will see.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on February 11, 2014, 01:31:15 PM: Is Bellamy banned?
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Simon Ward on February 11, 2014, 01:46:41 PM: Quote from: PaulTheVillan on February 11, 2014, 01:31:15 PM
Is Bellamy banned?

He should be for being who he is!
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on February 11, 2014, 02:09:24 PM: 2-1 loss
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 11, 2014, 02:11:26 PM: Quote from: RussellC on February 11, 2014, 12:31:42 PM
Quote from: Clampy on February 11, 2014, 11:33:28 AM
Quote from: Dr Butler on February 11, 2014, 11:30:07 AM
Quote from: Fergal on February 11, 2014, 11:25:57 AM
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on February 11, 2014, 11:22:25 AM
Quote from: PaulWinch again on February 11, 2014, 11:02:19 AM
My Grandad died yesterday, so I'm hoping Villa can bring a bit of cheer tonight.

Sorry for your loss.
Condolences.

yeah sorry to hear that PaulWinch. my condolences too

Sorry to hear that as well. Hope the boys win tonight for you.

My condolences also. Would be a nice touch if Villa could provide some cheer tonight.

Same here, Paul. My condolences and hoping more then ever for a Villa win tonight. A Herd hat trick would be just the job.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on February 11, 2014, 02:14:44 PM: Sorry to hear Paul.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 11, 2014, 02:19:11 PM: I would be delighted to see a Herd hat trick today chaps! A win any win will do.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 11, 2014, 02:30:33 PM: Sorry to hear that Paul, condolences mate.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 11, 2014, 02:43:19 PM: Cheers mate.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pooligan on February 11, 2014, 02:56:40 PM: 2-2
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MarkM on February 11, 2014, 03:28:55 PM: It shows how low are expectations are when more of us think we will loose to second bottom Cardiff then think we might win

Or are we all just too realistic now

I'm thinking a draw but have a horrible feelling that we will loose.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on February 11, 2014, 03:32:50 PM: Bless you Paul, I am sorry to hear your news my friend, let's hope for once the Villa don't let us down though I suspect we won't be holding our breaths...
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 11, 2014, 03:44:58 PM: Quote from: richard moore on February 11, 2014, 03:32:50 PM
Bless you Paul, I am sorry to hear your news my friend, let's hope for once the Villa don't let us down though I suspect we won't be holding our breaths...

Well indeed, I'm hoping for a Liverpoolesque display but with us hammering in about 5 and winning comfortably.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: yaliekins on February 11, 2014, 04:08:05 PM: having watched Cardiff a couple of times in the last few weeks, I'm feeling very confident in a Villa win tonight. Feeling optimistic almost purely because we've done well in midweek games & away from home, though. As much as I can't stand the chuckle brothers at the back, I'm really hoping he doesn't rush Ron into the team & risk a re-injury against a team with little threat up front.

1-3 Villa (Gabby x2, Benteke)
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 11, 2014, 04:25:28 PM: sorry to hear your loss paul

my grandad took me to rotterdam and actually accidentally punched me in the face when Withe scored and I miss that man loads.

A villa win to cheer you up
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 11, 2014, 04:26:34 PM: Quote from: JUAN PABLO on February 11, 2014, 04:25:28 PM
sorry to hear your loss paul

my grandad took me to rotterdam and actually accidentally punched me in the face when Withe scored and I miss that man loads.

A villa win to cheer you up

Cheers mate, yeah a Villa win is always a great tonic.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on February 11, 2014, 04:28:35 PM: Quote from: PaulWinch again on February 11, 2014, 11:27:51 AM
Thanks guys, hopefully the Villa will raise a few spirits tonight! It's an important game.
Condolences, Paul.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on February 11, 2014, 04:37:38 PM: Quote from: PaulWinch again on February 11, 2014, 02:43:19 PM
Cheers mate.

My thoughts are with you at this time, hope the team help in some way tonight.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 11, 2014, 04:38:22 PM: Sorry to hear that, Paul.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 11, 2014, 04:59:44 PM: My thoughts are with you Paul.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 11, 2014, 05:08:20 PM: Cheers chaps.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve R on February 11, 2014, 05:36:42 PM: Cardiff 1 (Bassey) Villa 5 (Baker, Clark, Albrighton, El Ahmadi, Guzan)
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on February 11, 2014, 05:39:21 PM: Quote from: Steve Rose on February 11, 2014, 05:36:42 PM
Cardiff 1 (Bassey) Villa 5 (Baker, Clark, Albrighton, El Ahmadi, Guzan)

Shirley shome mishtake!
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on February 11, 2014, 05:55:28 PM: Dreading this one. Because of what it would mean if we lose. I dont think I can take yet another relegation battle.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on February 11, 2014, 05:58:35 PM: Weather update. Just had a hail storm followed by heavy rain here in Cardiff. The clouds now look to be breaking up s bit. Not a breath of wind at the moment.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on February 11, 2014, 06:03:47 PM: Quote from: ciggiesnbeer on February 11, 2014, 05:55:28 PM
Dreading this one. Because of what it would mean if we lose. I dont think I can take yet another relegation battle.

Getting used to it now sadly.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 11, 2014, 06:09:28 PM: I can't wait. Really looking forward to the game. We're lucky to have a game so soon after the shambles of the weekend.

Time for the lads to put things right.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on February 11, 2014, 06:24:00 PM: Quote from: ciggiesnbeer on February 11, 2014, 05:55:28 PM
Dreading this one. Because of what it would mean if we lose. I dont think I can take yet another relegation battle.

We're already in one, sadly.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on February 11, 2014, 06:36:06 PM: Quote from: Pete3206 on February 11, 2014, 06:24:00 PM
Quote from: ciggiesnbeer on February 11, 2014, 05:55:28 PM
Dreading this one. Because of what it would mean if we lose. I dont think I can take yet another relegation battle.

We're already in one, sadly.

Quote from: eastie on February 11, 2014, 06:03:47 PM
Getting used to it now sadly.

I dont want to be all melodramatic but I sure could use something to look forward to about Villa right now. I know the "big club" stuff is a bit of a cliche but dammit we are the only club who has always been in the premier league who have had these relegation battles the past few years. We dont lord it but god dammit we ARE a big club. I resent looking at the bottom of the league thinking "yup those are our peers".

Petulant of me I know but there you are. :(
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: placeforparks on February 11, 2014, 06:36:28 PM: Quote from: ciggiesnbeer on February 11, 2014, 05:55:28 PM
Dreading this one. Because of what it would mean if we lose. I dont think I can take yet another relegation battle.

i never thought i'd long for those days of mid-table obscurity and winding down the season in march!
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 11, 2014, 06:37:36 PM: Anyone know if there is radio commentary?
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on February 11, 2014, 06:37:56 PM: Quote from: Pete3206 on February 11, 2014, 06:24:00 PM
Quote from: ciggiesnbeer on February 11, 2014, 05:55:28 PM
Dreading this one. Because of what it would mean if we lose. I dont think I can take yet another relegation battle.

We're already in one, sadly.

We've been in one all season. Can't believe some fans are only now realising it. This is where we're at now - perennial relegation battlers thanks to Lerner's cost cutting and Lambert's incompetence.
Huge game for us - absolutely huge. Losing is unthinkable.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on February 11, 2014, 06:40:56 PM: Quote from: placeforparks on February 11, 2014, 06:36:28 PM
Quote from: ciggiesnbeer on February 11, 2014, 05:55:28 PM
Dreading this one. Because of what it would mean if we lose. I dont think I can take yet another relegation battle.

i never thought i'd long for those days of mid-table obscurity and winding down the season in march!

I genuinely thought we would have that this season. Naive of me.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eric woolban woolban on February 11, 2014, 06:45:15 PM: Bellamy is banned tonight.

However, so was Carroll on saturday and we still lost.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on February 11, 2014, 06:45:26 PM: After the last 2 games this is a good fixture to have. 0-3
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on February 11, 2014, 06:47:54 PM: Quote from: saunders_heroes on February 11, 2014, 06:37:56 PM
Quote from: Pete3206 on February 11, 2014, 06:24:00 PM
Quote from: ciggiesnbeer on February 11, 2014, 05:55:28 PM
Dreading this one. Because of what it would mean if we lose. I dont think I can take yet another relegation battle.

We're already in one, sadly.

We've been in one all season. Can't believe some fans are only now realising it. This is where we're at now - perennial relegation battlers thanks to Lerner's cost cutting and Lambert's incompetence.
Huge game for us - absolutely huge. Losing is unthinkable.

I was one of them. We cannot play with relegation every season. It will get us.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fin Feds Dad on February 11, 2014, 06:48:25 PM: @AVFCOfficial: Ron Vlaar starts. #AVFCLIVE #CardiffCity
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 11, 2014, 06:48:33 PM: I think Vlaar is starting.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fin Feds Dad on February 11, 2014, 06:49:00 PM: @AVFCOfficial: #AVFC: Guzan Bacuna Vlaar (c) Baker Bennett Bertrand Westwood Albrighton Delph Benteke Agbonlahor. #AVFCLIVE
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: berneboy on February 11, 2014, 06:49:12 PM: #AVFC: Guzan Bacuna Vlaar (c) Baker Bennett Bertrand Westwood Albrighton Delph Benteke Agbonlahor.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 11, 2014, 06:49:48 PM: Match thread please folks.
Title: Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: berneboy on February 11, 2014, 06:50:36 PM: #AVFC subs: Steer El Ahmadi Sylla Helenius Holt Clark Weimann