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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on January 13, 2014, 02:09:21 PM
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Monday 13.1.14 @7pm (KO 8pm)
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13/2 for us just to win. The previous 4 times I've bet on us I've won (although I did bet on us to lose against Sheffield 😳). Let's hope my luck continues!
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Not expecting a win but I want a performance.
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Not going tonight, but don't know which programme to watch on telly ..
Do I watch the Villa game or Benefit Street on Channel 4 - Each would probably make me equally angry! :(
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Gabby is a doubt?
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Turning into a crap evening weather wise. Well have to brave the elements and leave for VP now to sit back and watch our lack of possession and Arsenal slamming one in every five minutes!
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I bet i'm fuming by 8:20pm and by half time deciding to tune over at 9:00 for benefit street.
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Not going tonight, but don't know which programme to watch on telly ..
Do I watch the Villa game or Benefit Street on Channel 4 - Each would probably make me equally angry! :(
I watched that benefit street yesterday . I used to hang around that street in the 70's and 80's alot as my family had a offy on that street and it was nothing like that then . I was shocked .
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Not going tonight, but don't know which programme to watch on telly ..
Do I watch the Villa game or Benefit Street on Channel 4 - Each would probably make me equally angry! :(
Both if you want to. Ch4+1
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Not going tonight, but don't know which programme to watch on telly ..
Do I watch the Villa game or Benefit Street on Channel 4 - Each would probably make me equally angry! :(
Both if you want to. Ch4+1
What do you think I am? Some kind of sadist?! :D
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Vlaar to start. Good news.
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just opened a letter from HM Revenue
;(
£1700 repayment - its a good day
we could win ;)
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Team news out yet?
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Guzan, Lowton, Vlaar, Clark, Baker, Luna, El Ahmadi, Westwood, Delph, Agbonlahor, Benteke.
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Guzan, Lowton, Vlaar, Clark, Baker, Luna, El Ahmadi, Westwood, Delph, Agbonlahor, Benteke.
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subs: Steer, Sylla, Bacuna, Tonev, Helenius, Weimann, Albrighton.
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subs: Steer, Sylla, Bacuna, Tonev, Helenius, Weimann, Albrighton
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lol, sorry Tuscans, did mran to dupe you
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Team news out yet?
Yes
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3-5-2 then ..
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guzan ,guzan .vlaar , guzan . guzan , guzan . guzan . guzan . guzan , benteke . guzan
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That's a genuine 5-3-2.
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Both Baker and Vlaar make it. 5-3-2
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Swap KEA for Bacuna and thats more or less what I would've done
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at least hes dropped weimann
KEA ;( but who else
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5-3-2 - two attacking full backs, or 3-5-2 however you wish to look it. Right now, that's about as strong as we are going to be. Maybe Sylla/Bacuna for KEA.
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5-3-2 is good and nice to see KEA back in. Good player this season.
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not the strongest arse team - good but not their best
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Agreed, JP. I can't believe El Ahmadi is playing again.
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Bacuna was one of the better players against Sunderland and did ok in midfield. Christ on a bike it's depressing seeing KEA in the side again. I'm not entirely sure why Lambert wants to give us such an immobile midfield with KEA and Westwood both in there.
That aside it's about as strong a side as we could probably put out, which isn't saying much.
Not fancying tonight at all. I'm hoping Gabby has one of his excellent games. That's where our best hopes lie probably. Benteke looks way, way off, but we'll see what he does.
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not the strongest arse team - good but not their best
wat is it
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5-3-2 is good and nice to see KEA back in. Good player this season.
he wears 8 not 16 ;)
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not the strongest arse team - good but not their best
wat is it
I heard bergkamp and Henry I think
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I'd rather have KEA than Westwood, i'd rather have anyone than Westwood.
KEA was MOM at Arse by the way
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I'd rather have KEA than Westwood, i'd rather have anyone than Westwood.
KEA was MOM at Arse by the way
That seems longer ago than the last time we won the FA Cup. ;)
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Szczesny, Sagna, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Monreal, Wilshere, Flamini, Cazorla, Ozil, Gnabry, Giroud
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Szczesny, Sagna, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Monreal, Wilshere, Flamini, Cazorla, Ozil, Gnabry, Giroud
That team - well, that team is better than our team.
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5-3-2 is good and nice to see KEA back in. Good player this season.
he wears 8 not 16 ;)
Opinions innit. dat KEA destroyer will prove you wrong!
I hope... :)
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Our Sky dish was knocked out by a storm and we have a 2 week wait for an engineer. So, I am watching MNF on the Sky Go app on an iPad. Novel. And if Villa win, I'll have to watch every game this way until we lose. Let's hope for a Huddlestone haircut type duration.
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Szczesny, Sagna, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Monreal, Wilshere, Flamini, Cazorla, Ozil, Gnabry, Giroud
That team - well, that team is better than our team.
Yep. That's still a side more than good enough to absolutely tear us to ribbons.
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5-3-2 worries me a lot, but who knows. It would be nice if we actually perform for once. Come on Villa.
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Well this is no doubt going to be a backs to wall type of performance and we'll be doing a lot of 'playing without the ball' as Lambert likes to put it. Arsenal will however look to come forward and attack us so if we can hold a steady defence then we will have a chance to hit them on the break and maybe sneak a goal. My worry is that Arsenal have a lot of guile in the team though and you would think they would have enough creativity to pass it through us and break down our defence.
Hoping for a 1-0 breakaway goal against all the odds, not necessarily what i expect to happen though.
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4-2-3-1 for the Gooners. And the front 4 are good at possession and shooting and assisting. KEA will get very dizzy.
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We are a much better side with Vlaar in it. I hope that remains the case.
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We'll park the bus in our own half and come away with a lucky 5-0 defeat.
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I'm awaiting this game with a sense of foreboding and dread.
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I don't like the look of our team. Or theirs for that matter.
We're set up to defend. Puke. It's one of our 'I hope the manager knows more than me' selections.
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I don't like 5 at the back, but that Arsenal side looks very strong. It's about time some of our players turned up, they have not been good enough for a while now.
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Chrissy Price to score the winner
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3-5-2.
I mean, in theory that could help to clog up the midfield (and we do have a special class of cloggers...). I dunno, could work for us.
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I'm awaiting this game with a sense of foreboding and dread.
It's like being 10 years old, sat in a Dentists waiting room and you can hear the kid in there screaming his head off.
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I'm awaiting this game with a sense of foreboding and dread.
I can't remember the last game I did look forward to, to be honest.
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Good to have 3 in the middle as arsenal midfield is devastating with the ball carzola and ozil need to be contained but I be happy with a 2 goal margin loss as the 3 points we had off them already a bonus . Ultimately our midfield won't live with hthem. I feel sorry for delph having to cope with weary and kea
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5-3-2 suggests we will be going route one.
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I'm looking forward to it actually. But that's only because the wife's not around, the curry will be ready in about 15 minutes time and got plenty of Belgian ales in the fridge to drink away my worries.
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What I fear with the 5 at the back is it suggests you're more solid, but I think with the likes of Baker and Luna players just tend to get in each other's way.
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5-3-2 suggests we will be going route one.
I'm going for route zero.
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5-3-2 suggests we will be going route one.
It does suggest a hoof look about it.
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5-3-2 suggests we will be going route one.
It does suggest a hoof look about it.
The flipside of that is it's counterattacking, with Benteke the target and Gabby the outball, which is how we beat Arsenal on day one, in fairness.
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We were 4-3-3 at Arsenal.
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I also really think we have to set up in a more positive manner, as soon as we got 5 at the back it says we fear the opposition.
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5-3-2 suggests we will be going route one.
why do you assume 5-3-2?
3-5-2 minimises the defensive frailties of Luna and Lowton and maximises their attacking qualities. I only wish Bacuna (who is the future of our right MF) was there to cover the right side when required.
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Luna and Baker against Özul and Gnabry (18 yo with lots of pace)....
Arsenal have not lost since 1998 on VP.
Hoping for the best but predicting a disaster....
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On the downside, we'll probably get battered. On the bright side, we'll get ourselves a shiny new arsehole. So it's not all doom and gloom.
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Its gonna be a lot harder for gabby to zip through their midfield like last time with Flamini in there
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Trying to decide whether I need the stress of actually watching this game.
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As a special treat, I've promised myself I'll stop watching at 0-12.
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Trying to decide whether I need the stress of actually watching this game.
I've got to decide whether I go over the road to watch the game with the two Arsenal fans who are waiting for me. I expect to be sharing my hurt with Arsenal fans. God.
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I'm trying to decide if I should watch it, I'm not sure how if I can "pick myself up and go again" at the end.
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Getting the Andrex ready for 9:45.............
.......it's going to be a giggity night!
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I'm going to give it a right good go.
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I will be a threat, no doubt.
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Im taking the 'woodward option' tonight.
PROS:
I dont have to watch the game
I get the super-happy-sunshine version of events
CONS:
Woodward
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Why oh why does Lambert pick El Ahmadi? He's rubbish! It didn't work last season, and hasn't this!
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Turn up Villa you owe the fans.
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Getting the Andrex ready for 9:45.............
.......it's going to be a giggity night!
Don't tell me your watching big brothers jasmine again tonight ;)
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Back from Norn Iron and on my way home. At times in the past I may have arrived late.
Am off home for a curry and watch the highlights. Come on you Villa boys.
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Come on villa!
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I see the Arsenal players are already waving their arms about.
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Don't go long Ciaran. KEA booked already get him off now.
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What a twat of a ref, yellow card for KEA?!
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Silly KEA.
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Would Wilshere have been booked after a minute. I think we know the answer.
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If it's goalless at half time I'll eat a semolina pudding and I hate semolina with a passion.
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You need to press the ball a lot better Villa.
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Baker, dear me.
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They're pressuring Luna already.
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What a twat of a ref, yellow card for KEA?!
FFS.
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They're pressuring Luna already.
why wouldn't you? Hardly tactical genius when playing Villa.
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Giroud probably should have scored.
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We're parking the bus. A really big bus. A bus full of holes.
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Still 0-0...... encouraging!
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Playing like the away side......kinda suits us so far....let's see how long for.
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KEA fuck off! Same old crap tactics, sitting too deep as usual.
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We will do this lot ;D
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I fear we'll get nothing from this ref tonight other than a red card against and probably a penalty. Wilshire is in his ear every time anybody goes near him.
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They're going to score if this continues, how on earth do they have so much space around the box when we have 5 at the back.
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Why is luna so far out of position so often :(
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It's just far too easy for teams to get crosses in against us.
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Have we actually strung two passes together yet ?
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I don't want to speak to soon but tactically we seem set up alright.
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Stop fucking hoofing it back to them.
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On the strength of the opening ten minutes, it'll be a miracle if we get anything out of this
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This fucking dire. Again.
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All Arsenal from the sound of the commentary on 5Live.
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Villa we do actually need to get the ball.
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Might we get under 15 percent possession tonight?
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This is deja vu
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This fucking dire. Again.
It's a tactic, it's called bore the opposition to death.
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Dire. If I were a neutral I'd be saying this needs an Arsenal goal.
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No wonder we're crap. Our players never touch the ball.
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get it on target son
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It's so weird that Lambert consistently sends the team out to play a counter-attacking style of game which relies so heavily on a solid defence when our defence is so completely dodgy.
Weird, and absurd.
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Delph that's a chance.
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Shot!
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Villa we do actually need to get the ball.
Not according to Lambert we don't
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Aargh Delph. Had to do much better with that.
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A nearly chance for Delph
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It's so weird that Lambert consistently sends the team out to play a counter-attacking style of game which relies so heavily on a solid defence when our defence is so completely dodgy.
Weird, and absurd.
Boring and tedious too in the extreme .
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Delph goals 1 assists 1 at Villa
we need more from him
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Its sad to see a Villa team set up to contain an away team at home.
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I repeat you have to press the ball Villa.
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baker - not again please
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Arsenal attacking our left back? Hmmmm what have they noticed that Lambert can't? ;)
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Every game he gets smashed up
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Arsenal attacking our left back? Hmmmm what have they noticed that Lambert can't? ;)
You'd think that with all the practice he gets, he'd get better.
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Baker looks out of it.- hardly moved.
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Hope Baker recovers soon.
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Baker sounds like he's in trouble.
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Sagna has already delivered two of the 17,876 crosses he will play into the box tonight under no pressure.
Encouraging.
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He must hold the record for getting injured early in a game the big brave galoot.
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I'm no Baker fan, but if the alternative is Bacuna god help us.
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Baker is like Evel Kneivel. Every time he goes out there he gets mangled.
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Strange one that, it didn't seem to hit him that hard. He looks in some trouble, though.
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Seems the shot knocked him clean out .
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We need to change the formation now, Lowton at centre half isn't great.
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he dont have much luck Baker
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Has there ever been a more injury prone player than Baker at Villa ?
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Bacuna on for Baker then.
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Can a ball really beat you up!!??
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Baker covered a shot with his face, Bacuna warming up - guessing they try to make Lowton a central defender again.
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Has there ever been a more injury prone player than Baker at Villa ?
Ivo stas?
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Bloody hell. Must have been quite a hit.
Get Bacuna on and switch to 4 at the back. Lets be a bit more adventurous.
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must have been a hard shot
hit his tongue back maybe
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Bloody hell. Must have been quite a hit.
Get Bacuna on and switch to 4 at the back. Lets be a bit more adventurous.
Yep.
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Delph goals 1 assists 1 at Villa
we need more from him
He should at least hit the target, poor effort
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Our CB injury record just gets better and better.
Did it hit Baker on the temple? Didn't look all that much.
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Bacuna on for Baker then.
that's a good thing, right? - 4-4-2, perhaps.
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why cant that happen to wiltshire
horrible boy
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I was going to say Ivo Stas but he only played once did'nt he
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4-4-2 then, hope it makes us a bit more positive.
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I fear for us now.
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Close KEA
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I was going to say Ivo Stas but he only played once did'nt he
Never played but scored for us.
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Good run from KEA, chance.
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another chance
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Whoever kicked the ball in his face surely should be sent off....
jokes
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Baker is easily the most injury prone centre half I have ever seen. And takes more to the head than most do in their career.
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2 best chances to us despite not having the ball.
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Baker is fucked.
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Got to take our chances against most teams, but Arsenal especially. They will pick us off eventually.
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It's annoying. When we move we don't do bad.
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23 mins 0-0 ;)
oh but the 8mins Baker down
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Go on Gab.
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poor from gabby
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KEA is worrying me, I think he's going to get booked again.
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foul ref
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Fucking hell ref, how is that not a foul.
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No booking?
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No yellow for that assault from Flamini? Joke.
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It's fairly clear we are going to get fuck all in terms of refs decisions tonight.
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All things considered, we haven't done as bad as I feared.
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Agbonlahor wants ball to feet, listen Villa.
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KEA needs to calm the fuck down
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Take KEA off now, he's going to be sent off.
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kEA shirt pulling ffs you on yellow
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Who's this ref? Never heard of him before. The new kids probably don't want to upset the big boys.
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KEA will walk tonight.
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I think KEA may need to come off before the hour. This ref is already getting the red ready.
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Who's this ref? Never heard of him before. The new kids probably don't want to upset the big boys.
He's been around a few years - one of the better refs in the premiership .
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Come on me babbies!! Sounds like we are at least putting up a fight on the wireless.
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I just counted 7 consecutive passes. Just wanted to share it.
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What has Wilshere ever done to justify all the fucking hype around him? I don't want to tempt fate, but aside from having a world class moan, what else?
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come on ref
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This game has Gabby written all over it.
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bastard would have been thru there
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Gabby taken down by a monorail.
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Without wanting to sound like Big Ron, I've a feeling about this match, I think we can get something out of it. Like Chelsea vs Barca or something.
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Not a bad half hour - arsenal haven't really created much .
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ffs
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Baker stil out apparently? A bad one. Hope he's OK.
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Spoke too soon :(
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What has Wilshere ever done to justify all the fucking hype around him? I don't want to tempt fate, but aside from having a world class moan, what else?
you bastard ;)
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Cock.
Does picking the ball out the net count towards your possession stats?
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What has Wilshere ever done to justify all the fucking hype around him? I don't want to tempt fate, but aside from having a world class moan, what else?
Genius.
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What has Wilshere ever done to justify all the fucking hype around him? I don't want to tempt fate, but aside from having a world class moan, what else?
I fucking knew it!
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Aww, crap.
Crap goal.
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0-1 typical. Lowton's defending and then Westwood not tracking the runner.
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What has Wilshere ever done to justify all the fucking hype around him? I don't want to tempt fate, but aside from having a world class moan, what else?
Tempting fate...
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I should've kept my mouth shut... He's still an overated twat though.
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2-0fuckoff Villa
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Hard to see a way back now - depressing.
Two in 2 minutes!
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0-2 fucking criminal, you bunch of useless clowns. That's twice this has happened.
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Fuck off
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for fuck sake
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Double toss.
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Gone to pieces again. Just not good enough.
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going to be 6 this if we aint careful
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This is more like the real Villa.
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Why do we fold like this FFS.
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I'm sorry but that's twice at home we've done that, game over.
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Lowton has cost us the game pretty much.
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Defending like something from a One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest card game.
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Oh do fuck off, at least I'm spared the semolina pudding.
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0-1 typical. Lowton's defending and then Westwood not tracking the runner.
Both should be embarrased by that goal. You could see the fuckers running off them before they had reacted. If both improved that 1 aspect, they would be excellent players. Until they do, they won't.
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Unsurprising. Good goal.
FUCK.
Two.
Fuck.
We're shit.
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Fear a double hammering here and at Liverpool - floodgates may well open now :(
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Credit where it's due, he took that goal superbly.
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...and Benteke now been on the pitch for 14 hours without scoring.
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Sigh.
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So now we're looking at damage limitation...
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what time is benefits street on ?
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What a hailstorm of Blues our fans have to put up with.
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I bet i'm fuming by 8:20pm and by half time deciding to tune over at 9:00 for benefit street.
Benefit street it is. Villa are a pile of shite.
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We held out for longer than I expected, well done, now buy some quality and start playing football because this is shit.
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0-1 typical. Lowton's defending and then Westwood not tracking the runner.
Both should be embarrased by that goal. You could see the fuckers running off them before they had reacted. If both improved that 1 aspect, they would be excellent players. Until they do, they won't.
Well Lowton's inability to defend cost us for the second goal as well, he hasn't even remotely improved on last year.
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Westwood so poor - our midfield and defence are shocking.
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crap home form continues
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Walk off and take the 3-0 I think.
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what time is benefits street on ?
20 mins. Fuck this shit.
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Sigh . Useless as per usual. Defending shocking as usual. This is going to be a big score line
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Never mind chaps ,we'll go again !!
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One of our better home performances, and we're still shit.
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Game over
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Worst side since McNeills. Stinking the division out again.
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We must have the worst midfield in the league. Game over. Can I bear to watch an hour of our pathetic efforts to get back into it? Let's see what else is on.
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0-1 typical. Lowton's defending and then Westwood not tracking the runner.
Both should be embarrased by that goal. You could see the fuckers running off them before they had reacted. If both improved that 1 aspect, they would be excellent players. Until they do, they won't.
Well Lowton's inability to defend cost us for the second goal as well, he hasn't even remotely improved on last year.
Harsh on Lowton, it was Delphs shite ball that caused the second. With 7 home goals this season we need a miracle....
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No one has blamed Delph yet - how anyone thinks he is England quality i dont understand
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I can see us scoring - Gabby looks well up for it tonight - but unfortunately I can also see us conceding a hatful. Arsenal are on a different plane to us in terms of technique, passing, movement...
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Not good enough. The manager, most of the players. Just nowhere near good enough. May can't come soon enough. Fuck Lambert off and get someone even vaguely competent in.
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Thought we were doing fine before 2 individual errors
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Miracle if we keep it under 5...
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Where do you start, inability to hold the ball up front, lack of movement/ability in midfield, too pedestrian at the back.Lambert should have no more money, we are destined to go down with this bloke.
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No one has blamed Delph yet - how anyone thinks he is England quality i dont understand
He's been shit since coming back from injury. I think the England talk was a little silly in retrospect, he just happens to be well above anyone else we have in CM. He's a very good athlete but a mediocre footballer if we're being brutally honest.
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fuck off phone txts
I know we are shit
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Can't watch this anymore I'm afraid, this club brings my mood down badly. Enjoy folks........
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Miracle if we keep it under 5...
Really? I'd have said 8 before kick off.
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Come on Villa.
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Thought we were doing fine before 2 individual errors
story of the season
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No one has blamed Delph yet - how anyone thinks he is England quality i dont understand
He was equally at fault.
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I just hope ozil scores a few to boost my ff points. That's what it's come to.
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PRESS THE BALL YOU IDIOTS
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Gaaaaah!
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No one has blamed Delph yet - how anyone thinks he is England quality i dont understand
Never been the same since he was suspended. Very poor tonight again.
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Not good enough. The manager, most of the players. Just nowhere near good enough. May can't come soon enough. Fuck Lambert off and get someone even vaguely competent in.
Listen faulkners interview on the other thread - all about how well we are progressing in 11th - so much better than last season - wonder what he will say in 3 weeks time :(
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Problem is we're not scoring goals like last year and we're starting to concede at least two on a regular basis.
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Is Benteke actually playing ?
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Ggabby got the ball then, 2-0 down, 2 Villa players in the box against 6 Arse players
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Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuufffffffffffffffffff.
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Is Benteke actually playing ?
Not since opening day of the season. He's very reminiscent of Michael Ricketts.......
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From BBC Sport:
"Christian Benteke is a ghost of the man who terrorised the Premier League this time last year. As he fails to control a ball into him he just watches it bounce away and doesn't even chase it. What has gone wrong?"
What indeed.
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Not good enough. The manager, most of the players. Just nowhere near good enough. May can't come soon enough. Fuck Lambert off and get someone even vaguely competent in.
Listen faulkners interview on the other thread - all about how well we are progressing in 11th - so much better than last season - wonder what he will say in 3 weeks time :(
Its alright for him
he isnt paying to get in
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Ggabby got the ball then, 2-0 down, 2 Villa players in the box against 6 Arse players
It's damage limitation mate. Lambert would take 0-2 from here no question.
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I watch week in week out other sides at least have a go. Sides that might end up losing but they do so having had the audacity to take the game to the opposition. I've seen Stoke and Palace this weekend have a go, not be afraid. Yes they lost, but did so in an effort to win. I haven't seen that in a good number of games from us, and we fold like a cheap tent way too readily.
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For the love of god...what happened to our high energy, pressing the ball high up the pitch that we showed end of last season....it's just sit back, sit back, sit back. WTF has happened to us...
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arsenal training excercise
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Thought we were doing fine before 2 individual errors
Me too. Arguably had the best chances too. El Ahmadi's yellow is making him more anonymous than usual, he has to come off at half time.
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I watch week in week out other sides at least have a go. Sides that might end up losing but they do so having had the audacity to take the game to the opposition. I've seen Stoke and Palace this weekend have a go, not be afraid. Yes they lost, but did so in an effort to win. I haven't seen that in a good number of games from us, and we fold like a cheap tent way too readily.
Totally agree.
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Not good enough. The manager, most of the players. Just nowhere near good enough. May can't come soon enough. Fuck Lambert off and get someone even vaguely competent in.
Listen faulkners interview on the other thread - all about how well we are progressing in 11th - so much better than last season - wonder what he will say in 3 weeks time :(
Worse thing is he probaly truly believes it
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poor ball from bacunu
Baker ok
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We look such an old fashioned team. All sitting deep in their own half, no one pushing, closing down in packs. No one moving off the ball in triangles, everyone too far away.
1980s
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I watch week in week out other sides at least have a go. Sides that might end up losing but they do so having had the audacity to take the game to the opposition. I've seen Stoke and Palace this weekend have a go, not be afraid. Yes they lost, but did so in an effort to win. I haven't seen that in a good number of games from us, and we fold like a cheap tent way too readily.
Indeed.
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Pffffft!
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From BBC Sport:
"Christian Benteke is a ghost of the man who terrorised the Premier League this time last year. As he fails to control a ball into him he just watches it bounce away and doesn't even chase it. What has gone wrong?"
What indeed.
It's based on nothing more than gut feeling, and it's probably too easy a thing to say, but none-the-less I simply think he doesn't want to be at the club, really.
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Benteke and Westwood never get mentioned. Wouldn't have called that last year.
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From BBC Sport:
"Christian Benteke is a ghost of the man who terrorised the Premier League this time last year. As he fails to control a ball into him he just watches it bounce away and doesn't even chase it. What has gone wrong?"
What indeed.
What's gone wrong? Where shall we start.
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Lambert. Sits. Claps. Shouts: "C'moan!"
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Thought we were doing fine before 2 individual errors
Me too. Arguably had the best chances too. El Ahmadi's yellow is making him more anonymous than usual, he has to come off at half time.
take him off and get Helenius on behind Benteke
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From BBC Sport:
"Christian Benteke is a ghost of the man who terrorised the Premier League this time last year. As he fails to control a ball into him he just watches it bounce away and doesn't even chase it. What has gone wrong?"
What indeed.
It's based on nothing more than gut feeling, and it's probably too easy a thing to say, but none-the-less I simply think he doesn't want to be at the club, really.
Same here, it's no conspiracy theory. Just his body language.
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We look such an old fashioned team. All sitting deep in their own half, no one pushing, closing down in packs. No one moving off the ball in triangles, everyone too far away.
1980s
Training exercise - men against boys -depends how hungry arsenal are for more goals .
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Fun - we are now playing 5 on 5 ... in our own box. Wonder how long we can keep that up.
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Very easy for them really. A new game plan was enforced on us though.
Doesn't stop us being shite, with no movement or ideas for what to do with the ball.
+8 mins added on.
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Amazing that our team of League 1, Championship, and cheap foreign imports are struggling against this team. Who'd have thunk it Randy?
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thank fuck they are trying to walk it in
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This reminds of a game against Arse in the eighties when they tonked us and I left early in the second half. Could hear them signing all the way up Aston Church Road.
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Is bite your hand off at 2-0
This villa side does look worryingly poor. It's like how I imagine our youth team would look playing a premier league side. Just less good in any way conceivable
At least we've only got Liverpool next.
Even though I knew we'd lose, it's still really disappointing to see the same mistakes time and time and time again.
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Depressing.
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From BBC Sport:
"Christian Benteke is a ghost of the man who terrorised the Premier League this time last year. As he fails to control a ball into him he just watches it bounce away and doesn't even chase it. What has gone wrong?"
What indeed.
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It's based on nothing more than gut feeling, and it's probably too easy a thing to say, but none-the-less I simply think he doesn't want to be at the club, really.
Bit of service to him,might help
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Depressing.
The lack of any real hope, in this game and the future, is the real killer
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Bleh!
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this game has gone how all of us feared it would. In every aspect. We haven't pressed, we haven't kept possession and we made stupid individual errors. We did that against Sheff Utd and lost and now we are repeating that tried and trusted formula against Arsenal. Genius
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He could start to bring his team mates into the game by keeping hold of the football for more than 3 seconds.
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Do I not like all these crossfield balls we play, especially right across the back line.
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Fucking hell anyone going to help Delph?
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2-6 if i remember rightly Tony..."Always look on the bright side of life"
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I'm loathed to criticize Benteke overly because he's not exactly getting an abundance of service but he needs to work harder and defend from the front too. He's to passive at the moment.
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Someone please try and convince me that this isn't worse than under McLeish. Because I'm bloody struggling. Absolutely staggered Lambert isn't under unbearable pressure.
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Fucking hell anyone going to help Delph?
That was pitiful. Absolutely pitiful. Ended up with three Arsenal players round him and no Villa player within 30 yards.
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Depressing.
The lack of any real hope, in this game and the future, is the real killer
This - it makes me feel like crying seeing this great club in this situation :(
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7 goals in 10 home games
and we need 3 against these in 45mins
Can we?
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I'm loathed to criticize Benteke overly because he's not exactly getting an abundance of service but he needs to work harder and defend from the front too. He's to passive at the moment.
The thing is that last season he was creating goals for himself out of nothing.
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Well what to do with our meagre resources? Benteke off. Gabby down the middle, extra midfielder is all I can think of.
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The constant chopping and changing of formations doesn't contribute to our coherence. The players don't seem to know their roles or where their team mates will be
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Someone please try and convince me that this isn't worse than under McLeish. Because I'm bloody struggling. Absolutely staggered Lambert isn't under unbearable pressure.
Don't worry, faulkner thinks we have made real progress this season .
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Someone please try and convince me that this isn't worse than under McLeish. Because I'm bloody struggling. Absolutely staggered Lambert isn't under unbearable pressure.
This is worse than McLeish, without a doubt, McLeish had a plan, draw at all costs, this bloke hasn't the imagination to come up with a plan.
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Fucking hell anyone going to help Delph?
That was pitiful. Absolutely pitiful. Ended up with three Arsenal players round him and no Villa player within 30 yards.
It's things like that annoy me more than anything else.
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2-6 if i remember rightly Tony..."Always look on the bright side of life"
That's the one. It was truly our first big tonking of the eighties if I recall.
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Meh
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Someone please try and convince me that this isn't worse than under McLeish. Because I'm bloody struggling. Absolutely staggered Lambert isn't under unbearable pressure.
I wish I could but I can't, we're absolutely awful. I think even the djembe twins would shine in this team.
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Our midfield look scared when we get in the opposition half....
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Half-time report: Utterly clueless. As usual. One fears our shiny new arsehole is only half-torn.
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How does Lambert have a job honestly ...this is an utter piss take
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Well that was dire and just completely unprofessional to concede two goals in a minute again.
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We can't even be arsed to boo with any conviction.
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I feel the last drops of good will towards Lambert might be exiting the glass
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Someone please try and convince me that this isn't worse than under McLeish. Because I'm bloody struggling. Absolutely staggered Lambert isn't under unbearable pressure.
I never thought that things could be that bad again, but they do seem to be.
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I don't go to games very often anymore.
I didn't go to the pub to watch tonight.
And now I'm switching off my computer.
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I missed the first few minutes, what did El Ahmadi get booked for? I find it a bit weird as this ref has let a lot go for both sides.
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Someone please try and convince me that this isn't worse than under McLeish. Because I'm bloody struggling. Absolutely staggered Lambert isn't under unbearable pressure.
Don't worry, faulkner thinks we have made real progress this season .
I'm surprised to hear such negativity on here as many were saying we were safe in 11th and that Spam and Sunderland were worse than us and PL was flavour of the month 2 weeks ago.
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I'm a glutton for punishment, but I've had enough for today.
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well I was expected it
but we hope we might just put in a proper performance , the fans really deserve it
but no , its Lambert as our manager , out of depth
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My prediction: we will huff and puff for the first few minutes of the second half, but ultimately it will be fruitless and we will lose by 3 or 4.
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I feel the last drops of good will towards Lambert might be exiting the glass
Yep, that cup runeth dry all right.
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Fair do's.....the forwards don't move anywhere when the midfield have the ball. Who can blame them though
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We're just a really poor side. It would be nice if we came out in the second half and actually had a go at them.
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That routine of having a couple of half chances before conceding two quick fire goals half way through the first half in front of the Holte End is really starting to get in my tits
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2-6 if i remember rightly Tony..."Always look on the bright side of life"
That's the one. It was truly our first big tonking of the eighties if I recall.
I remember it well, we had Arsenal fans on our coach just to rub it in even more.
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Next half is crucial for us. If we chuck the towel in then after suarez's inevitable bag of goals we could be down there with a shocking goal difference like last year.
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We can't even be arsed to boo with any conviction.
Bo!
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7 goals in 10 home games
and we need 3 against these in 45mins
Can we?
Check the odds.
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7 goals in 10 home games
and we need 3 against these in 45mins
Can we?
No
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I missed the first few minutes, what did El Ahmadi get booked for? I find it a bit weird as this ref has let a lot go for both sides.
Jumped in to Wilshere and flattened him. Probably deserved it. KEA I mean; Wilshere definitely deserved it.
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The atmosphere is just surreal. I cant believe how poor we are and how poor we are at home.
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Luckily I'm watching the game at work now rather than with my Gooner mate which I had previously planned.
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Someone please try and convince me that this isn't worse than under McLeish. Because I'm bloody struggling. Absolutely staggered Lambert isn't under unbearable pressure.
Don't worry, faulkner thinks we have made real progress this season .
I'm surprised to hear such negativity on here as many were saying we were safe in 11th and that Spam and Sunderland were worse than us and PL was flavour of the month 2 weeks ago.
I certainly wasn't.
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Yawn
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Half time. We were doing OK until two mistakes cost us dear and it was calamitous for a good few minutes after that. I actually think we've been passing it better tonight at times.
El Ahmadi had been absent, Luna too. Lowton looks so much better going forward. Delph is getting visibly frustrated.
We have to go for it now. Why not give Helenius a try? Or switch Gabby out wide so that we have an out ball, and play Wiemann and Benteke through the middle.
But no, we will probably just whimper and die without any tangible change in formation or tactics.
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Could we be the dullest team in the league....in all of the UK?
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Meh, just not enough effort. They've got to give us more than that. At least give it a bloody go.
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I can accept us being down to arsenal at home. I can't accept a complete lack of fight and cohesion into the bargain.
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Arsenal are, as usual, by far the best team in the league. It's so easy when you watch them play. I'd love our players to have Wenger train them for a month.
Could be any number of goals to nil if Arsenal want to.
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When we have the ball in their half we only lose it, can't pass, can't beat a player and going to get hit on the break in the second half for another 2 or 3 goals.
The Gooners don't have to worry, they know we aren't going to score.
ambert just doesn't have a clue what to do.
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We all have plenty to say about Villa, me as much as the next fan but the bare unvarnished truth which stares us in the face game after game is that our players are not good enough and our manager is not good enough.
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Thing is, Arsenal are really good; there's no shame in being two-nil down against them.
But to be so utterly negative, guileless and scared of them, at home, is really dreadful.
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When we do not have the ball we are casual, lazy, disorganised and clueless. Too many players hiding. You defend from the front and the midfield are not allowing the two forwards to press as there is too much of a gap between the midfield and the forwards.
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I do worry about Lowton
is he prem quality
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Someone please try and convince me that this isn't worse than under McLeish. Because I'm bloody struggling. Absolutely staggered Lambert isn't under unbearable pressure.
Don't worry, faulkner thinks we have made real progress this season .
I'm surprised to hear such negativity on here as many were saying we were safe in 11th and that Spam and Sunderland were worse than us and PL was flavour of the month 2 weeks ago.
I certainly wasn't.
Sorry, I wasn't accusing you. Was just saying what a difference a week or 2 makes to peoples opinions and how quickly they change with a lucky result.
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The difference in the ability to pass the ball is enormous.
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This clueless manager will take us down ,trouble is we have a invisable owner who is just as clueless
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Two observations;
1. Lambert once again proves to be a clueless twat, formation keeping them at bay, we get an injury and he changes it back to 4-4-2 when there was no need. Holes appear again in defence and the predictable outcome. Bacuna and Luna as wing backs with the other 3 at centre would have been fine.
2. Wilshere really is a bow legged bellend isn't he?
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Villa win on Betfair 51/1
Rubbish odds or what?!
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I can accept Arsenal passing us to bits - they pass everyone to bits - but where is our fight? And always, always individual mistakes gifting the opposition goals. FUCK.
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Westwood and Lowton have been terrible this year.
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We all have plenty to say about Villa, me as much as the next fan but the bare unvarnished truth which stares us in the face game after game is that our players are not good enough and our manager is not good enough.
Yes, that's about it.
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Rudy 65....spot on..spot on....The lack of hope is the worst thing about us....shameful
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Could we be the dullest team in the league....in all of the UK?
It's really easy money betting on us to lose especially at home.
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We all have plenty to say about Villa, me as much as the next fan but the bare unvarnished truth which stares us in the face game after game is that our players are not good enough and our manager is not good enough.
We're improving according t Paul Faulkner
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We all have plenty to say about Villa, me as much as the next fan but the bare unvarnished truth which stares us in the face game after game is that our players are not good enough and our manager is not good enough.
Yes, that's about it.
Yep but on top of that, the effort isn't there either. There are teams with poor players who play massively above themselves week in week out and we're just rubbish most weeks.
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I cannot believe we are here yet again.
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I'm a glutton for punishment, but I've had enough for today.
Don't do it Tom. You'll kick yourself when we lose 1-5.
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Despite losing 2-0 I don't think we've been as clueless as we usually are. We still never look like creating a goalscoring chance despite having numerous chances to put a decent ball in the box, it's just get it in and hope for the best. Gabby and Benteke may as well not be up there, not only do they get poor, desperate service, they get no support from anybody.
The lack of confidence of our midfielders is the main weakness. Hopefully KEA will be sitting in the crowd second half.
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FFS get Gary Neville down to BH for a week and get our defence coached. Even I could see what we were doing wrong so why can't our coaching staff?
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Lowton's mistake was very basic for that first goal. Very basic
Delph's was even worse.
It's a very similar pattern to the two goals v Manu U
We're so passive as a side I think. It's just not at all what got us into good form last these
Time for benefits street I think
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7 goals in 10 home games
and we need 3 against these in 45mins
Can we?
Check the odds.
100/1
should be 1000000000/1
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We all have plenty to say about Villa, me as much as the next fan but the bare unvarnished truth which stares us in the face game after game is that our players are not good enough and our manager is not good enough.
We're improving according t Paul Faulkner
I wonder how he views his 'product'?
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I equate this to taking on water in a wooden boat. You can only scoop the water out for so long before the wood rots and the bottom falls through. At what point does our bottom fall through?
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Why is Beady fucking Eye being played over the tannoy? Is it because they're shit like us?
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Sigh. Depressing. The usual excuses from the manager and the usual glee at our loss from the media.
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Fuck we are shit.
Just like the Spurs home game last season. Holding at bay easily enough with 5-3-2, Baker gets fucking injured and we fall to bits.
Sack the fucker tonight, I have had the fuck enough of Villa losing games at home. No fucking pride. Fuck bollock fuck shit crap ****** wank shite bollocks grrr.
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Gary Neville can spot our flaws easily. Do we have anyone that analyses videos of our matches and figures out what we're doing wrong, or even have people in the stands?
Or our the players simply not good or switched-on enough to execute plans?
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I know a few season ticket holders who couldnt be bothered to go tonight
even against Arsenal , you would expect them to go but they have had enough .
Faulkner you might have trouble selling season tickets next season.
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As it Arsenal people will say well they are top of the league ,but make no bones about it this is shocking.The defending Vlaar excepted continues to be simply shocking.
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And what the fuck El Ahmedi and Baker ( who i hope will be ok btw) are still doing in the starting 11 i'll never know.
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I can accept us being down to arsenal at home. I can't accept a complete lack of fight and cohesion into the bargain.
I'm used to it by now - so sad to see the club in this state on the playing side.
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Someone please try and convince me that this isn't worse than under McLeish. Because I'm bloody struggling. Absolutely staggered Lambert isn't under unbearable pressure.
Don't worry, faulkner thinks we have made real progress this season .
I'm surprised to hear such negativity on here as many were saying we were safe in 11th and that Spam and Sunderland were worse than us and PL was flavour of the month 2 weeks ago.
I certainly wasn't.
Sorry, I wasn't accusing you. Was just saying what a difference a week or 2 makes to peoples opinions and how quickly they change with a lucky result.
We're still 11th. Spam and Sunderland are still worse than us.
And Lambert wasn't 'flavour of the month' at all.
Stop fishing to wind people up.
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Gary Neville can spot our flaws easily. Do we have anyone that analyses videos of our matches and figures out what we're doing wrong, or even have people in the stands?
Or our the players simply not good or switched-on enough to execute plans?
Yep Neville is bang on the money.
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If we're truly honest how many of these players are really good enough, three maybe at a push four.
I'm depressed enough as it is due to going back to work tomorrow after two weeks paternity and one weeks extended leave, this is just pushing me towards the drink and a possible hangover in the morning.
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don't think the media actually bother about us these days
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look on the bright side big Grant Holt will be leading the line next time out
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Westwood is one of the worst players i have seen in a Villa shirt, does absolutely nothing.Lowton is a poor defensive FB.
If you are playing just 2 up front, you need a better touch on the ball than what Gabby has.
This is the worst Villa team i have seen in 40 years, far worse than under McLeish or McNeil, at least with them we had some decent players, we have none now.
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I equate this to taking on water in a wooden boat. You can only scoop the water out for so long before the wood rots and the bottom falls through. At what point does our bottom fall through?
May. We are so poor at home it will see us down, sleep walking into it. Others down there fighting, we are wading into the abyss.
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Actually thought Neville spoke sense there by saying we didn't do enough. You expect it to be tough against the 'big' teams but you've got to have a go.
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MEH !
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second half lets get this over with.
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And what the fuck El Ahmedi and Baker ( who i hope will be ok btw) are still doing in the starting 11 i'll never know.
I suppose at least it means Tonev and Weimann are not playing.
9 defeats in total at home this season.
Abysmal.
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If we're truly honest how many of these players are really good enough, three maybe at a push four.
I'm depressed enough as it is due to going back to work tomorrow after two weeks paternity and one weeks extended leave, this is just pushing me towards the drink and a possible hangover in the morning.
If we do drop, this lot would struggle in the Championship IMO. Would love to see what goes on in Lerner's, Faulkner's and Lambert's heads.
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I can accept Arsenal passing us to bits - they pass everyone to bits - but where is our fight? And always, always individual mistakes gifting the opposition goals. FUCK.
Palace wouldnt be this bad which is worrying.
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Evening chaps, not looking too good is it?
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There you go Bacuna actually trying to go forward.
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who kicked that
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Just watching the first half analysis by Pleat and Gray, 'passive', 'submissive', 'criminal' were just three of the words they used to describe our performance. I would have to agree.
They also commented on how they thought during the break in play after the Baker injury Lambert should have gathered the players together to speak to them and motivate them after our poor first 15 minutes. Instead he just sat there.
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Bacuna is on the pitch so why is Westwood still on dead-ball duty?
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I think the KEA should be subbed.
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If we're truly honest how many of these players are really good enough, three maybe at a push four.
I'm depressed enough as it is due to going back to work tomorrow after two weeks paternity and one weeks extended leave, this is just pushing me towards the drink and a possible hangover in the morning.
If we do drop, this lot would struggle in the Championship IMO. Would love to see what goes on in Lerner's, Faulkner's and Lambert's heads.
Picture Homer Simpson...
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I equate this to taking on water in a wooden boat. You can only scoop the water out for so long before the wood rots and the bottom falls through. At what point does our bottom fall through?
May. We are so poor at home it will see us down, sleep walking into it. Others down there fighting, we are wading into the abyss.
But they are worse than us so we will be OK. Won't we?!
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I am not very knowledgeable about football but I have forgotten more about the game than Faulkner will ever know. He is a gaffer's man, a toady, a brown nose, a sycophant, an acolyte, an arsehole creeper with one motivation. To keep his job.
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Nice shooting there!
I do think we really are in trouble. We can't take the initiative in games. We're reactive.
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Evening chaps, not looking too good is it?
Understatement of the week!
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Corners and free kicks are just a waste of time for us.
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The piss take is you could take some shit reserves from other sides and they would make us better straight away. We are that fucking shit.
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chance
we never have the power thou
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Just watching the first half analysis by Pleat and Gray, 'passive', 'submissive', 'criminal' were just three of the words they used to describe our performance. I would have to agree.
They also commented on how they thought during the break in play after the Baker injury Lambert should have gathered the players together to speak to them and motivate them after our poor first 15 minutes. Instead he just sat there.
They should not need motivating...
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If we're truly honest how many of these players are really good enough, three maybe at a push four.
I'm depressed enough as it is due to going back to work tomorrow after two weeks paternity and one weeks extended leave, this is just pushing me towards the drink and a possible hangover in the morning.
If we do drop, this lot would struggle in the Championship IMO. Would love to see what goes on in Lerner's, Faulkner's and Lambert's heads.
That's what's most infuriating. No communication from the upper echelons whatsoever apart from though Faulkner and he says very little worth listening to.
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This isn't a blip. We've been awful for all bar 3 months of Lambert's tenure. We can all see where this 'project' is heading. It's regression not progression. He needs to go.
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That's better. Let's just try and look like a football team in this second half
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7 goals in 10 home games
and we need 3 against these in 45mins
Can we?
Check the odds.
100/1
should be 1000000000/1
I'll save my pound and buy a fish instead. C'mon ladies c'mon.........
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Better there we actually got moving forward.
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Anyone think Benteke should come off and Heskey should come on?
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All our players need great big green arrows over them a la the sims, the different coloured shirts don't seem to be enough for our players to be able to pass the ball to each other.
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Looks like bacuna is in behind the strikers now. More energy
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Of all the players playing on this planet, Lambert has the ability to buy the 6-7 worst. That's some skill.
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Lowton's mistake was very basic for that first goal. Very basic
Delph's was even worse.
It's a very similar pattern to the two goals v Manu U
We're so passive as a side I think. It's just not at all what got us into good form last these
Time for benefits street I think
The passivity is what shocks me most. Being a lesser player than your opponent is one thing but time after time at home our players just retreat.
How can you have 10 men behind the ball in your own half and still have the opponents passing around and through you with absolute ease. No challenges, not getting tight. How can the manager, the coaches tolerate this.
Westwood and El Ahmadi play like they're paralysed. How many times can Westwood not track back before he realises that his indolence is killing us?
We are just a fucking cowardly, scared mess.
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Can't wait for the transfer window to open ???
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Anyone think Benteke should come off and Heskey should come on?
I thought he was on already.
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Leandro on this please
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Can't wait for the transfer window to open ???
Dreading what these clowns will waste on this 'project'.
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Anyone think Benteke should come off and Heskey should come on?
missed a trick not getting Harewood
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We are all over 'em.
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Whats that chap DOL doing these days...always seemed like a good manager.
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Anyone think Benteke should come off and Heskey should come on?
I thought he was on already.
We are an embarrassment, all these years to spend wisely and develop the squad. Lurching from one shit decision to another, Randy needs to give Lambert money to spend on players and decent wages or we are fucked.
Obvious aint it?
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Can we please all stop with this project shit.
This is Aston Villa, it's not a fucking project.
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Weird that we have more possession of the ball and look better, that's odd isn't it Lambert?
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Wilshere. The most annoying player in the league.
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thankfuck for vlaar
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We're doing a bit better to be fair. Very poor quality in the final third though.
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Brilliant tackle from Vlaar
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What the fuck is the ref stopping the match for with a leg injury?
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Anyone think Benteke should come off and Heskey should come on?
I thought he was on already.
We are an embarrassment, all these years to spend wisely and develop the squad. Lurching from one shit decision to another, Randy needs to give Lambert money to spend on players and decent wages or we are fucked.
Obvious aint it?
Randy needs to give the manager money to spend on players - agreed , but that manager should not be lambert.
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Vlaar saving Lowton's blushes. great tackle.
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Sounds like Ron put his foot in then. Nice.
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My prediction: we will huff and puff for the first few minutes of the second half, but ultimately it will be fruitless and we will lose by 3 or 4.
Going to plan so far.
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Brilliant tackle Ron. The same again on Wilshere would be splendid.
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A consolation goal would be nice. Just to get some kind of dignity out of our loss.
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Vicuña us definitely better in midfield. On the right or centre.
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Vlaar has been our best player by far this year, especially now that delph's form has tailed off
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it's taken us to be 2-0 down and likely a bollocking at HT to show any kind of desire and passion. I fully expect if we don't find a goal somewhere that the effort will drop away and we'll fall for a counter and a 3-0 scoreline. At least we are having a go, but it all just seems a little too late.
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If we can't compete then kick them. Get stuck in boys.
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Whaaat? Bacuna...
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Trouble is, if, as he is, Benteke hits a bad run, there is no goals in our side at all.
Fucking mess. Long day at work then this shit.
I will see sense again in the morning I am sure, but right now I just want the bloke to do one and see if someone else can give them a bit of confidence.
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Weird that we have more possession of the ball and look better, that's odd isn't it Lambert?
Send him a letter...
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Anyone think Benteke should come off and Heskey should come on?
I thought he was on already.
We are an embarrassment, all these years to spend wisely and develop the squad. Lurching from one shit decision to another, Randy needs to give Lambert money to spend on players and decent wages or we are fucked.
Obvious aint it?
what worries me is we cant beat a Sheff team who probably spent £30 on their team with the money hes spent . I wouldnt give him the money.
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You get the feeling arsenal can step up a gear if needed - they are coasting.
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Trouble is, if, as he is, Benteke hits a bad run, there is no goals in our side at all.
Fucking mess. Long day at work then this shit.
I will see sense again in the morning I am sure, but right now I just want the bloke to do one and see if someone else can give them a bit of confidence.
Quite.
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it's taken us to be 2-0 down and likely a bollocking at HT to show any kind of desire and passion. I fully expect if we don't find a goal somewhere that the effort will drop away and we'll fall for a counter and a 3-0 scoreline. At least we are having a go, but it all just seems a little too late.
Weird that we look better with more of the ball as well.
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What time's Bowery time?
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Anyone think Benteke should come off and Heskey should come on?
I thought he was on already.
We are an embarrassment, all these years to spend wisely and develop the squad. Lurching from one shit decision to another, Randy needs to give Lambert money to spend on players and decent wages or we are fucked.
Obvious aint it?
Randy needs to give the manager money to spend on players - agreed , but that manager should not be lambert.
I am not so sure, not many managers could manage this crop of players with any degree of success. I would like to see Lambert given proper money to spend on proper players.
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You get the feeling arsenal can step up a gear if needed - they are coasting.
We should be grateful to Wenger. He clearly wants to save his team from too much effort and bank the points.
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I am not very knowledgeable about football but I have forgotten more about the game than Faulkner will ever know. He is a gaffer's man, a toady, a brown nose, a sycophant, an acolyte, an arsehole creeper with one motivation. To keep his job.
Brian there are Villa fans who's cast off toenails know more about football than Faulkwit
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fanny
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What time's Bowery time?
Midnight.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3d/Boweryatmidnight.jpg)
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You get the feeling arsenal can step up a gear if needed - they are coasting.
We should be grateful to Wenger. He clearly wants to save his team from too much effort and bank the points.
exactly - no injuries etc
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Get Marco on now and let him run at them.
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Ron Vlaar looks much improved this season, just about the only positive really.
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fanny
Maybe later.
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For gods sake show some effort, help the man with the ball. We have no energy, no enthusiasm.
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I am not very knowledgeable about football but I have forgotten more about the game than Faulkner will ever know. He is a gaffer's man, a toady, a brown nose, a sycophant, an acolyte, an arsehole creeper with one motivation. To keep his job.
Stop sitting on the fence and tell us what you really think of him :)
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Anyone think Benteke should come off and Heskey should come on?
I thought he was on already.
We are an embarrassment, all these years to spend wisely and develop the squad. Lurching from one shit decision to another, Randy needs to give Lambert money to spend on players and decent wages or we are fucked.
Obvious aint it?
Randy needs to give the manager money to spend on players - agreed , but that manager should not be lambert.
I am not so sure, not many managers could manage this crop of players with any degree of success. I would like to see Lambert given proper money to spend on proper players.
He has proper players Fergal and he can't get them to play, what makes you think he can get any new ones to play?
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What time's Bowery time?
Midnight.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3d/Boweryatmidnight.jpg)
Part II - "...And we still haven't scored"
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What time's Bowery time?
Midnight.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3d/Boweryatmidnight.jpg)
That looks suitably frightening.
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We are a league one team.
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If we don't get that shexy No.10 type this window then I'm going to set my alarm every Saturday for 4:45pm to wake up.
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another shot
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Decent hit from Westwood.
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We are a league one team.
Give it time.
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Anyone think Benteke should come off and Heskey should come on?
I thought he was on already.
We are an embarrassment, all these years to spend wisely and develop the squad. Lurching from one shit decision to another, Randy needs to give Lambert money to spend on players and decent wages or we are fucked.
Obvious aint it?
Randy needs to give the manager money to spend on players - agreed , but that manager should not be lambert.
I am not so sure, not many managers could manage this crop of players with any degree of success. I would like to see Lambert given proper money to spend on proper players.
He has proper players Fergal and he can't get them to play, what makes you think he can get any new ones to play?
I am not saying he has done a brilliant job but how many of these players are good enough? Would you be happy with this squad in the Championship?
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A shot on target! Rejoice!
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We're actually knocking it about a bit at the moment. Not exactly champagne football but there has been an improvement. It may of course be connected with Arsenal taking their foot off the gas
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We are a league one team.
That must be the project...
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We are a league one team.
We have League 1 players. Quelle surprise!
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Looks like it is going to be another game without a goal .Sure i read somewhere that Lambert is supposed to be a attack minded manager Oh yeah !
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See passing the ball helps a bit Villa.
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Anyone think Benteke should come off and Heskey should come on?
I thought he was on already.
We are an embarrassment, all these years to spend wisely and develop the squad. Lurching from one shit decision to another, Randy needs to give Lambert money to spend on players and decent wages or we are fucked.
Obvious aint it?
Randy needs to give the manager money to spend on players - agreed , but that manager should not be lambert.
I am not so sure, not many managers could manage this crop of players with any degree of success. I would like to see Lambert given proper money to spend on proper players.
He has proper players Fergal and he can't get them to play, what makes you think he can get any new ones to play?
I am not saying he has done a brilliant job but how many of these players are good enough? Would you be happy with this squad in the Championship?
He signed 17 of them though.
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reports that Grant Holt is signing a six month deal
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We're actually knocking it about a bit at the moment. Not exactly champagne football but there has been an improvement. It may of course be connected with Arsenal taking their foot off the gas
See Faulkner is right!
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We so need a Barry type player this month.
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at least we will have Holt soon!
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This letting-us-kick-the-ball-about thing that Arsenal are doing will help us understand what it's like to kick the ball about. So, thanks.
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Looks like it is going to be another game without a goal .Sure i read somewhere that Lambert is supposed to be a attack minded manager Oh yeah !
Stop moaning - great effort and endeavour - we will go again :(
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reports that Grant Holt is signing a six month deal
And we are paying him in doughnuts.
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reports that Grant Holt is signing a six month deal
What the hell?
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Decent hit from Westwood.
If you think that was a decent hit by Westwood, then Bruce Rioch would have had you creaming your pants.
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Anyone think Benteke should come off and Heskey should come on?
I thought he was on already.
We are an embarrassment, all these years to spend wisely and develop the squad. Lurching from one shit decision to another, Randy needs to give Lambert money to spend on players and decent wages or we are fucked.
Obvious aint it?
Randy needs to give the manager money to spend on players - agreed , but that manager should not be lambert.
I am not so sure, not many managers could manage this crop of players with any degree of success. I would like to see Lambert given proper money to spend on proper players.
He has proper players Fergal and he can't get them to play, what makes you think he can get any new ones to play?
I am not saying he has done a brilliant job but how many of these players are good enough? Would you be happy with this squad in the Championship?
Were a League 1 outfit, if we survive in the Championship we will have done well.
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Oh well. At least my multiplier bet is going to come in.
Pitiful.
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I think the VP crowd are too apathetic to voice any displeasure at what's going on. A half arsed boo after the final whistle confirms how far we have fallen, how low the expectations are. Sorry state of affairs for a proud old club.
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Aston Villa has been playing in the highest league for 103 seasons. That is a legacy that demands that you find a way to honor it if you are in charge. This is not it!
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Can anyone explain why the ref stopped the game while we had possession when Monreal went down? Thought it was only head injuries or when a player was inert that that was supposed to happen, not when he's waving his hand
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What do I really think about Faulkner? If I could buy the Villa I would not sack him. I would have him cleaning the windows of Aston Hall (zero hours of course).
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teams dont need to try against us
we never look like scoring
nothing , we are so dull
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reports that Grant Holt is signing a six month deal
ah I was too late!
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Holt? Really? Fucking hell.
Mind you, more threat than Benteke at the moment.
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Grant Holt? Really? First I've heard and if true that's the death throes right there.
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Honest question...
Would we better or worse off at this point in time if Doug was still in charge?
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We might have done a bit better this half, but we offer absolutely no threat at all.
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This team could play til midnight and still not score.
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Anyone think Benteke should come off and Heskey should come on?
I thought he was on already.
We are an embarrassment, all these years to spend wisely and develop the squad. Lurching from one shit decision to another, Randy needs to give Lambert money to spend on players and decent wages or we are fucked.
Obvious aint it?
Randy needs to give the manager money to spend on players - agreed , but that manager should not be lambert.
I am not so sure, not many managers could manage this crop of players with any degree of success. I would like to see Lambert given proper money to spend on proper players.
He has proper players Fergal and he can't get them to play, what makes you think he can get any new ones to play?
I am not saying he has done a brilliant job but how many of these players are good enough? Would you be happy with this squad in the Championship?
He signed 17 of them though.
On a budget? Don't get me wrong I think he has made his mistakes both tactically and in the transfer market, mistakes that would have got him the sack elsewhere.
I suppose I just don't want to be one of those clubs that chop and changes manager every season. I think we need stability and to get that Randy needs to back the manager with the sort of money a premiership club needs.
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This is heartbreaking. ... No fight no future
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For most of this season I have defended Benteke from supporters of other clubs who accuse him of being "found out". I can no more. He may be as good and powerful as I think he really is but he does not want to play for this football club. And yet........ A goal now.....
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Holt? Really? Fucking hell.
Mind you, more threat than Benteke at the moment.
If that's true I despair.
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I'd take Holt over the tamed beast atm.
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If we don't concede in the second half, Lambert will probably celebrate
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We might have done a bit better this half, but we offer absolutely no threat at all.
because Arsenal have won the game already.
We're a piss poor excuse for a football team, and we need an influx of a considerable amount of talent this window alone, just to stand still.
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Westwood has done better this half he's actually tried risky passes. Lowton has been fucking dire.
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Honest question...
Would we better or worse off at this point in time if Doug was still in charge?
Don't even go there.
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Honest question...
Would we better or worse off at this point in time if Doug was still in charge?
smashes head against a wall repeatedly
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reports that Grant Holt is signing a six month deal
ah I was too late!
No, no, no, you've misheard. Randy has granted a halt to all signings.
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thought that was 3
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Benteke getting pushed off the ball quite regularly. How depressing.
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weimann on
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Holt might show a bit of fight at least
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Hells bells- I thought the holt talk was a joke - seems its for real - how depressing .
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Please tell me the near 33 yr old 2 goals this season Grant Holt story is a sick joke. I don't think I could take anymore.
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Get Albrighton on 10 minutes ago you flipping donkey
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have these commentars seen weimann lately
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Holt might show a bit of fight at least
Yeah, to be at the front of the queue when they hit the canteen after training, for example.
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We might have done a bit better this half, but we offer absolutely no threat at all.
because Arsenal have won the game already.
We're a piss poor excuse for a football team, and we need an influx of a considerable amount of talent this window alone, just to stand still.
Yep and I don't think anyone thinks Grant Holt will help in any regard.
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Please tell me the near 33 yr old 2 goals this season Grant Holt story is a sick joke. I don't think I could take anymore.
It seems not
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"COME ON! COME ON!" shouts our tactical genius.
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"C'moan!"
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Holt might show a bit of fight at least
He can't get in the wigan team and has piled on the weight - would be a dreadful signing.
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Hells bells- I thought the holt talk was a joke - seems its for real - how depressing .
Relegation signing. I've had enough of this shit. Enjoy the rest of the mismatch all.
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I geniounely dislike Grant Holt. Of lambert does bring him in, it maybe a tipping point for me. It would be such a lazy and awful signing.
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We might have done a bit better this half, but we offer absolutely no threat at all.
because Arsenal have won the game already.
We're a piss poor excuse for a football team, and we need an influx of a considerable amount of talent this window alone, just to stand still.
We need 6 or 7 players to make us a half decent team, you don't buy that many in January.
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Is it just me or are Benteke's ears getting smaller each time I see them?
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BENTEKE FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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At last the beast scores!
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bentekescores ;)
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Fuck me...
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Jesus fucking Christ. Be still my beating heart.
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Holt might show a bit of fight at least
Yeah, to be at the front of the queue when they hit the canteen after training, for example.
And I'll be back at Villa Park when he'll freezes over.
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The Beast is BACK! Growl. Grrrrr Woof
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The beast is back.
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That'll do. Now let's have a go
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Well fucking hell Get In!!!!
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YYYYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!!
CONGO WARING!
THE BEAST IS BACK!
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If we take nothing else from this at least he's scored. Lowton great ball.
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Fucking Holt!? Seriously.
There has to be a couple of actual footballers too. You know, a Kiyotake, or well, anyone that can get the ball and be a bit more exciting!?
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well that might sort the beast out at least
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I fear arsenal will step it up now.
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Holy fucking shit. Benteke putting himself in the shop window, surprise, surprise!
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Thank fuck BENTEKEEEEEEE
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Benteke at last
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YES! Even if we lose, the Tekster getting a goal could be vital between now and the end of the season.
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Just give it a fucking go Villa.
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That "c'moan" really worked, then.
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Game on! Gerrrinnn to em.
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We are the winningest team in the second period Randolph in case you are watching.
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The signing of Grant Holt reminds me of that only fools and horses episode at Hull station when Uncle Albert gets off the train..Rodney's expression was priceless...and so would mine be.
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this is what happens when you pussy foot around the Villa
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Bentekeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well timed. I decide to tune back in and Benteke scores within 10 minutes. Thank fucking Christ for that. Lets have a different player now please.
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Bacuna forced the error, he is the only one that showed some desire and pride all day. Him and Vlaar.
Maybe a few other will wake up now.
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I fear arsenal will step it up now.
They were coasting, we were full tilt...
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I think the comment about Benteke's ears is the trigger mechanism. If we all mention them, he'll score more.
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Holt might show a bit of fight at least
Yeah, to be at the front of the queue when they hit the canteen after training, for example.
I would put money on that line up being quite tame to be honest and nobody taking the responsibility to go first or receive their scoop of mash. Small steps paulie. If Holt can show his canteen passion to the lads maybe they can expand on that elsewhere at sleepy Bodymoor
Well, thank fuck Benteke has finally scored. We have time to get something here. BELIEVE!!
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Hells bells- I thought the holt talk was a joke - seems its for real - how depressing .
Relegation signing. I've had enough of this shit. Enjoy the rest of the mismatch all.
I'll try that again. That's it, I'm OFF............
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Thank Allaah for that!
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Bacuna tries to cross it when he can;t possibly cross it
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The tide is turning.
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He is BACK baby!
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Fantastic cross from Lowton for the goal
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We would probably be better with Doug for the simple reason that HDE would have to get somebody to do the heavy lifting of the chairmanship. Anybody competent would be better than the vacuum which exists in our boardroom at the moment.
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Fuck off arsenal. You played on and tried to score so don't moan when we do the same.
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Bacuna forced the error, he is the only one that showed some desire and pride all day. Him and Vlaar.
Maybe a few other will wake up now.
both been good tonight
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Fuck off arsenal. You played on and tried to score so don't moan when we do the same.
I agree, wankers.
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Now thats the fucking cross you should be putting in fuckers
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Fuck off arsenal. You played on and tried to score so don't moan when we do the same.
Exactly.
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Come on get Marco on now to finish these pretenders off.
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Lowton is a poor full back but pretty good gong forward. Lovely cross for the goal.
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For all Lowton's defensive inadequacies he's a fine attacking full back
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now Benteke has scored does that mean Grant Holt can fookoff
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We need to stuff it up em, they don't like it up em...
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Has Gabby broken his nose? It looked proper floppy when the magic cotton wool was pressed on it.
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Cracking cross from Lowton (much better crosser of the ball than defender), and a good goal from Tekkers.
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Great from Weimann there.
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fuckthought CB was in
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Am I the only one looking at Rosicky and thinking (sarcastically) "Ahhh diddums!"
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Even Savage is getting behind us!!
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Why are you all talking about Grant Holt?
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Different game now. And different Benteke too.
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why didnt we dothis from the start
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Lowton does shape a lovely cross. As a right wing back he is ideal. Most of our lot are better in a 3-5-2 actually. Just need a couple more centre halves!
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Come on Villa!
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We need to stuff it up em, they don't like it up em...
Had we done this from the first minute we'd have been in this all along. I hope we can salvage something here.
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I've cashed out of my multiplier. We're gonna snatch a draw here lads!
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Starting to pass the ball and actually look a bit like a football team.
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Grant Holt threw his Gingsters on the table in disgust at Keele services when he saw the Beast score.
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Why are you all talking about Grant Holt?
Cause he's signing tomorrow :-(
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We look like a... a football team.
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For all the talk of quality and experience, we look a very different side with a bit of belief
Not getting fooled by this. Arsenal had stopped playing. But this is at least more like it
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Why are you all talking about Grant Holt?
Cause he's signing tomorrow :-(
for defence ?
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Ref is a complete shit fuck
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why didnt we dothis from the start
Despite us all saying we're basically a League 1 team (me included), it seems we really are a confidence team more than anything.
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Is this the equivalent to the Newcastle home game last season?
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Why are you all talking about Grant Holt?
Cause he's signing tomorrow :-(
Transfer bull thread's that way ->
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We need to stuff it up em, they don't like it up em...
Had we done this from the first minute we'd have been in this all along. I hope we can salvage something here.
I really don't know why we sit back and let them play.
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Actually pressing the ball too. Come on Villa.
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you have a go at arsenal you have a chance
but why they wait nearly 80 mins to do it
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why didnt we dothis from the start
Despite us all saying we're basically a League 1 team (me included), it seems we really are a confidence team more than anything.
Credit where it's due, but Arsenal took their foot off the gas at HT. if they needed 4 they'd have got them.
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Actually pressing the ball too. Come on Villa.
I was thinking that, too, finally chasing it down.
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why didnt we dothis from the start
Despite us all saying we're basically a League 1 team (me included), it seems we really are a confidence team more than anything.
no motivation from the manager then
chance there
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Fuck.
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Benteke chance.
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you have a go at arsenal you have a chance
but why they wait nearly 80 mins to do it
Saving our energy?
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Should have scored that
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6 mins to gat a bit of pride back into the club.
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shit should have scored that. great ball from lowton again
weimann looks like a lost puppy since he came on
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Taken from the BBC….
Interestingly, Christian Benteke's goal was his fifth goal in 16 matches, the same number of goals he scored in his first 16 matches last season. He then scored 14 goals in his last 18 matches to finish the season with 19. So maybe he's just coming into season now?
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looked better with KEA off
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I really don't understand what I am seeing here.
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Confidence and belief. If you keep giving them the ball and against good sides they will punish you and drain the confidence from your bones. No footballer wants to be chasing the ball for 90 minutes. We have likely left this too late and Lambert has to be held accountable for that. How the team comes out and plays starts with him.
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looked better with KEA off
no real surprise there.
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We may not be a very good footballing side, but all I want to see at Villa Park is a little bit of bottle. COME ON VILLA, LET'S SNATCH IT!
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Weimann shocks me.
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benteke playing for his arse move
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Benteke's finally involved and competing. Different player. Tonight will be a real fillip if we can't get him firing against our rivals.
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looked better with KEA off
no real surprise there.
Loan him to Halifax.
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Actually pressing the ball too. Come on Villa.
I was thinking that, too, finally chasing it down.
it's why we got a result against Arsenal at the start of the season and why we did well against Chelsea until we were robbed. It's not fucking rocket science yet we have done our level best to give the impression it is.
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At least we are going down fighting...
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too many wrong balls
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too many wrong balls
There's a joke in there somewhere
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Arsenal players are actually physically sweating for the first time in the whole match!
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Sounds like Wilshire should be off.
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Where's the post match thread?
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20 extra seconds for all that time wasting in added time? Oh how Referees love the Sky 4
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A decent last 10 mins or so. But a loss is a loss.
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Arse go top and we advertise Benteke...shite!
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Bloody Monday night games....I'm still hungover and at word. :-\