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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on September 30, 2013, 07:43:25 PM
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Saturday 5.10.13 KO 3pm at the KC Stadium
0-1 away win
Agbonlahor 56
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0-1 Another Bacuna special ..........
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2 nil Villa
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If I were a betting man I'd put money on either Danny Graham or Tom Huddestone scoring their first goals for about 10 years, I'm not though so a Villa win and interesting journey home trying to stop my son from teasing his sister too much.
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If I were a betting man I'd put money on either Danny Graham or Tom Huddestone scoring their first goals for about 10 years, I'm not though so a Villa win and interesting journey home trying to stop my son from teasing his sister too much.
It's a real art, smacking kids accurately while driving the car
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1-2 away win , a tough scrap but we will just have too much for them and a win would give us an excellent base on which to progress our season.
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Think this will be draw, 1-1.
We never seem to follow up a great result with a winning run of form if you think back to the Arsenal game and some great results we've had in the last few seasons.
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3-1 to us; Gabby's first of the season, Kozak and a collector's item from Ciaran Clark
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1-1 draw, that is what I predicted for the citeh game so I hope it has the same result.
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Got cheap tickets in with the locals for this one through work. I'm hoping to have a tough afternoon of sitting on my hands after a few goals from villa. Going 2:1 villa.
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They will score.
We will score more.
UTV!
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Will Gabby be fit for this game ?
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I thought Hull would be one of the whipping boys of the division this year, but they've started quite well and are in good form at the moment.
Getting Gabby back would be very useful. Also might be worth going back to the 4-3-3 and regular away tactics.
1-2 win to the Villa!
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I thought Hull would be one of the whipping boys of the division this year, but they've started quite well and are in good form at the moment.
Getting Gabby back would be very useful. Also might be worth going back to the 4-3-3 and regular away tactics.
1-2 win to the Villa!
That's Steve Bruce all over though. He starts well but in the end everything goes tits up and he gets the sack.
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Hull do look good compared to what I was expecting.
I really hope gabby's back and weimann's injury is mild. If so, I think we'll win. Without one or both of them it's hard to see us scoring many
I expect hull to score one goal. So I predict it will come down to how many we get and I predict two
I'd abandon the 352 personally. Revert to 433
KEA to do his constant badgering job on huddlestone. I'd bring back Westwood in spite of his poor form as otherwise we really won't have much in the way of ballplayers and I think we need to start getting the ball down and playing a bit more.
Bacuna to stay at right back unless he needs to play further fwd due to injuries. Tonev not a starter I don't think!
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1-1
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Dangerous game as they can do to us what we did to city.
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West Ham were a bit unlucky on sat, and they're pretty toothless up front. Think the match will suit our game.
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First away day this season. Have a good record up there
Hull City Tigers 0 - 3 Aston Villa
Kozak (14)
Gabby (76, 88)
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We'll win by scoring more than they do. Sammy Morgan hat trick.
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1-1
We never back up a big win with another one. Draw, which will be a decent result given their form. A win would make it an incredible start to the season given our fixture list.
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I gone for a win but anything can happen in this one. We won both previous visits to this stadium and can see us making it three in a row if we are at our best. I really think Kozak has got good potential and Bacuna will be buoyed by his performance on Saturday. 2-1 Villa.
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They are not the mugs we thought they'd be, same time we never lose when Mr Plastic away fan goes. Them 1 Us 2.
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I just hope we don't get mauled by the tigers....
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They've been decent at home and hard to break down, I can see this being a 0-0 or 1-1.
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I just hope we don't get mauled by the tigers....
Sweet jesus. Proper cringe.
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First draw of the season.
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Them 2 - 4 Us
Agbonlahor, Delph and Weimann (2)
We play better away.
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I have no idea. This team confuses me :)
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Hull haven't conceded many this season. 2-1 to us I reckon.
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@MatKendrick: Mark Clattenburg will referee Hull v Villa on Saturday #avfc
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I think this will be tough, 2-2.
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I think we will win 3-1 (as long as Gabby plays).
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Hull are obviously better than most people thought they would be. A well deserved 1-1 draw is our best bet. Delph 37min.
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Other than the Newcastle game they don't score many (one or none in all their other games), but they don't concede many either, so this has 1-1 written all over it. Pity Benteke isn't fit so he could show Curtis Davies what a pub player defender he really is. If Gabby plays I think we'll win. 2-1 to us
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Fancy us for this. 1-2 with Weimann and Clark from a corner scoring. Really wouldn't through a strop if we came away with a point, though.
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if we do the improbable and keep a clean sheet, we will win.
UTV
The Doc
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0-1 a Ron Vlaar special!
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3-1 Villa.
Gabby, Wiemann and Delphinho.
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Going to this on Saturday, can tick off a football ground and rugby league ground that I haven't been to before :)
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from an Irish perspective, I was looking forward to seeing Robbie Brady play but he is out injured which is a boost for Villa.
By all accounts Huddlestone and Livermore have started very well for Hull so the midfield battle will be crucial. Huddlestone has never been the most mobile so need to exploit that where possible.
If Benteke was fit Id be very confident of a Villa win, Gabby fit will still make us favourites, without those two a draw.
My team (provided Gabby is fit)
------------Guzan
Bacuna, Vlaar, Clark, Luna
-----Westwood, Delph
------------KEA,
Tonev, Weimann, Gabby
wouldnt be totally against giving Albrighton a start ahead of Tonev. If Gabby is out, might aswell start with Kozak and Weimann up front and maybe Tonev in the hole and KEA deeper
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@MatKendrick: Mark Clattenburg will referee Hull v Villa on Saturday #avfc
Is this a modern thing, telling us who the Ref is? I've not noticed it till recently, and I've never been bothered (and probably never will) who actually referees the game.
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@MatKendrick: Mark Clattenburg will referee Hull v Villa on Saturday #avfc
Is this a modern thing, telling us who the Ref is? I've not noticed it till recently, and I've never been bothered (and probably never will) who actually referees the game.
There are many modern things which have been introduced to our bemusement. We are too old for this world, you and I.
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@MatKendrick: Mark Clattenburg will referee Hull v Villa on Saturday #avfc
Is this a modern thing, telling us who the Ref is? I've not noticed it till recently, and I've never been bothered (and probably never will) who actually referees the game.
There are many modern things which have been introduced to our bemusement. We are too old for this world, you and I.
Agreed. Another modern football "thing" I just don't get is the infatuation with gambling in football. I'm not exaggerating when I say that every single time I talk about football with the people I work with they immediately tell me the odds for the match we're discussing. I just don't bloody care what the odds are.
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Do you also remember when nobody cared much about the fixtures and what the new shirt was going to look like? In fact, do you also remember when a new shirt every summer was the cause of moans about rip-offs and exploitation?
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Do you also remember when nobody cared much about the fixtures and what the new shirt was going to look like? In fact, do you also remember when a new shirt every summer was the cause of moans about rip-offs and exploitation?
New shirts used to be every 3 years or so at one time - all this 3rd choice kit stuff and new kit every year is bloody expensive - i prefer to wait until the end of season sales usually but have made an exception this year as the home kit reminds me of 82.
Used to love turning up at the ground and seeing the big bbc or itv vans too - knowing we were on star soccer was good , oh for the good old days :(
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1-1.
Davies (inevitably) for them from a corner.
Us to snaffle a late equaliser (Delph).
They've started well. Out of that generation of players/managers, I think Bruce is doing well. He genuinely seems to learn from his previous mistakes and corrects them at his next club. Obviously there's a glass ceiling he can't break through, but if you want a hard-working promotion guaranteeing/lower midtable side - you could do a lot worse.
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Do you also remember when nobody cared much about the fixtures and what the new shirt was going to look like? In fact, do you also remember when a new shirt every summer was the cause of moans about rip-offs and exploitation?
The shirt thing is interesting. When a new shirt came out when I was a kid it wasn't really a big deal. Now it's like it is your sworn duty to go out and buy one for your kid as if it was their school uniform.
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Do you also remember when nobody cared much about the fixtures and what the new shirt was going to look like? In fact, do you also remember when a new shirt every summer was the cause of moans about rip-offs and exploitation?
New shirts used to be every 3 years or so at one time - all this 3rd choice kit stuff and new kit every year is bloody expensive - i prefer to wait until the end of season sales usually but have made an exception this year as the home kit reminds me of 82.
Used to love turning up at the ground and seeing the big bbc or itv vans too - knowing we were on star soccer was good , oh for the good old days :(
Weren't the last trophies we won both in kits that lasted 2 seasons? Maybe there's something in that! ;)
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Them - 1
Us - 2
Broken down coaches - 1
H&V sellers missing game due to broken down coaches - 2
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I think we'll win this.
If Gabby is fit he'll score, so will Weimann.
2-0
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Do you also remember when nobody cared much about the fixtures and what the new shirt was going to look like? In fact, do you also remember when a new shirt every summer was the cause of moans about rip-offs and exploitation?
24 hour, wall to wall football, when there is about half an hours worth of interesting news per day. You need some bullshit to fill the time.
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@MatKendrick: Mark Clattenburg will referee Hull v Villa on Saturday #avfc
Is this a modern thing, telling us who the Ref is? I've not noticed it till recently, and I've never been bothered (and probably never will) who actually referees the game.
I don't mind knowing who the ref is going to be. At least when we know it's going to be Phil Dowd, we can prepare for the worst.
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@MatKendrick: Mark Clattenburg will referee Hull v Villa on Saturday #avfc
Is this a modern thing, telling us who the Ref is? I've not noticed it till recently, and I've never been bothered (and probably never will) who actually referees the game.
I don't mind knowing who the ref is going to be. At least when we know it's going to be Phil Dowd, we can prepare for the worst.
Clattenburg is not great but there are far worse - I'm glad Halsey is no longer involved .
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0 - 2
Weimann, Delph
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1-1.
Davies (inevitably) for them from a corner.
Trust me, IF Hull score it will be Danny Graham. He hasn't scored for something like 20 years.
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1-1.
Davies (inevitably) for them from a corner.
Trust me, IF Hull score it will be Danny Graham. He hasn't scored for something like 20 years.
Wasnt his last goal the last kick equaliser for Swansea against us around new year?
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This really won't be an easy game. Hull have got something going on this season, and we'll need to get on Thuddlestone in midfield if we want to keep the ball much. However, we have a lot of pace on the counter attack and that's not necessarily something they'll be comfortable handling, so I back us to win - especially if Gabby's back.
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Have to say I like to know who the referee is going to be. If it's Dowd or Halsey (who has thankfully now retired) I like to prepare myself for Villa being cheated blind all match.
Those 2 were worse than any other current Premier League referees.
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Have to say I like to know who the referee is going to be. If it's Dowd or Halsey (who has thankfully now retired) I like to prepare myself for Villa being cheated blind all match.
Those 2 were worse than any other current Premier League referees.
Chelsea's number 12 Kevin Friend must be getting close though ADVILLAFAN......
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Going for a 1-1. Weimann scoring for us
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I got my prediction completely wrong last week so not going to give it kiss of death. So 5 0 to Tony,s tigers cause their ggggreat ..... Come on villa
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I got my prediction completely wrong last week so not going to give it kiss of death. So 5 0 to Tony,s tigers cause their ggggreat ..... Come on villa
Your sig, I noticed that on MOTD as well. 8)
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1-1.
Davies (inevitably) for them from a corner.
Trust me, IF Hull score it will be Danny Graham. He hasn't scored for something like 20 years.
Wasnt his last goal the last kick equaliser for Swansea against us around new year?
It was indeed.
Went home feeling like we'd lost even if after 10 minutes we should have been 3 -0 down!
UTV!
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This is a bit of a crazy season to be predicting anything and Hull have fallen under my radar completely so will hedge my bets with a 1-1 prediction with Vlaar scoring from a corner for us.
Nice to see we have sold out even if I did fancy going!
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0-0
Hull are in form, we're struggling to find our form. Tough game where our batling boys are matched for effort.
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I went to the KC with Watford last season on a coach for a weeknight kick off. Decent generic stadium and surprisingly good support but there are not many drinking holes for away fans near the ground. Hull didn't have much to offer in that particular game but have since made reinforcements for the Premier League.
In the poll, I went for a draw but it is really difficult to predict which Villa will show up. It will be interesting to see which Davies shows up on the day too - pub player or handy defender. We could end up hammering them or being soundly beaten ourselves. I'd be a hell of a lot more confident if Benteke was available.
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0-0
Hull are in form, we're struggling to find our form. Tough game where our batling boys are matched for effort.
I think we may draw the game but I am not confident of us getting another 0 so soon after Norwich.
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Have to say I like to know who the referee is going to be. If it's Dowd or Halsey (who has thankfully now retired) I like to prepare myself for Villa being cheated blind all match.
Those 2 were worse than any other current Premier League referees.
Chelsea's number 12 Kevin Friend must be getting close though ADVILLAFAN......
Kevin Friend reffed Hull vs West Spam last saturday he was shocking missed two handballs nailed on pens and Hull player making a meal out of a tackle to get their penalty
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I predicted we'd beat Norwich & City so I'm on for the hatrick, Hull City Tiggers 1-2 Mighty Aston Villa. Goals Delph, 22, Gabby 59, got to be Graham for them.
UTV!!!
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Tigers are more lively at night but snooze during the day.
So, as long as nobody in the KC breaks out with some radically cool sounds, villa should be able to tiptoe past and score....several times.
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I have no idea. This team confuses me :)
Me too. Just like a girl I've started seeing. I can't figure her out :( Villa = Relationships
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I have no idea. This team confuses me :)
Me too. Just like a girl I've started seeing. I can't figure her out :( Villa = Relationships
Actually, Eamonn:
Villa: win, lose or draw.
Relationship: any one or a combination of 2 or 3 above. Or something entirely different.
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Brady and Chester out for this match, which is bloody useful.
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With our erratic performance I think we need to change the poll to show the following:
Win first half
Loose first half
Draw first half
And then the same for the final result
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I think we should play the 2nd half first
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Three league wins on the trickle? Does that happen to us? I can't see it, somehow, so either a frustrating draw or a loss, I'm afraid. Andi to get another.
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@MatKendrick: Mark Clattenburg will referee Hull v Villa on Saturday #avfc
Is this a modern thing, telling us who the Ref is? I've not noticed it till recently, and I've never been bothered (and probably never will) who actually referees the game.
There are many modern things which have been introduced to our bemusement. We are too old for this world, you and I.
As long as it's not Roger Kirkpatrick I'm not bothered!
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I put £10 on Man City Saturday to soften the blow a little, so it looks like I will do the same for Hull.
Hull have a pretty good home record at the minute so it will be a good test for us.
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With our erratic performance I think we need to change the poll to show the following:
Win first half
Loose first half
Draw first half
And then the same for the final result
Except the second choice will be smelt coorrectly. >:(
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Head says score draw.
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Can also see a score draw, but then who knows- we are due a good performance and gabby must be due one of his famous away braces- im going to go three-one to a jubillant Villa to keep the winning habit going!
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Before today I would have gone for a 1-1 draw.
But, I now have a ticket and will be there, so I demand a 3-1 victory.
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With our erratic performance I think we need to change the poll to show the following:
Win first half
Loose first half
Draw first half
And then the same for the final result
Except the second choice will be smelt coorrectly. >:(
Nobody nose how to smell that word correctly.
I reckon 2-2 draw. Us to score first for a change.
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Three league wins on the trickle? Does that happen to us? I can't see it, somehow, so either a frustrating draw or a loss, I'm afraid. Andi to get another.
Yeah, this is how I feel too. It's almost like you dont want to get too positive because there's an unexpected kick in the nuts just round the corner.
Having said that, prediction wise - we hardly ever look like drawing these days and somehow I just can't see a defeat up there.
I'll go 2-1, to us, dull first half, with a nervy, nailbiting last 10 minutes after Gabby puts us into the lead.
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Do we know that Gabby is back ?
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Nope. Just being positive!
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I hope he is,can any shed any light on his ankle injury ?
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We have a weakened side, despite beating City last weekend.
We just don't do three wins on the bounce.
We're overdue a draw.
A draw it is.
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We have a weakened side, despite beating City last weekend.
We just don't do three wins on the bounce.
We're overdue a draw.
A draw it is.
We are more overdue 3 wins in a row though than we are due a draw.
Tough game but a villa win.
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Do we know that Gabby is back ?
According to Physioroom (http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php) Gabby, Gary Gardener and Ashley Westwood will be back for this game. Also mentions Weimann has a knock but should be ok. Don't know how reliable they are, mind
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Thanks CJ
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We won't know 'owt for sure until Lambert's pre-match "presser" on Friday.
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Robbie Brady injured for Hull, think he's been their best attacking player this season.
Hull don't really score more than once in games so I'd be disappointed if we don't get at least a point, have a feeling Curtis Davies will nick one from a set piece as he's scored I think twice for them this season.
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To all those being pessimistic because they can't see us winning 3 games on the trot - Hull have also won their last 2 games, so are they more likely to keep the run going than us? Not in my book.
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2-0 to the Lions, Huddlestone ain't gonna need a short back n sides on Monday.
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Brady out for them is a big loss. Hull 1-2 Villa.
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Hull didn't score too many last year and have won two at home so far on the back of grinding out 1-0 from soft penalties. Their other result was a 1-1 draw with Cardiff.
You would like to think that if we score twice, we would more than likely win the game.
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1-2 Hull will miss Brady, Delph and Andi to score
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Torn between thinking it will be a 1-1 draw or 2-1 to us.
Gabby being fit would certainly swing the odds of a win in our favour.
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We have 3 wins and 3 losses and are going away to a team who might not be the most attractive but will be dogged and determined. I think you could put your house on a draw.
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Three wins on the trot? Possible but unlikely. A draw for me.
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Do we know that Gabby is back ?
According to Physioroom (http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php) Gabby, Gary Gardener and Ashley Westwood will be back for this game. Also mentions Weimann has a knock but should be ok. Don't know how reliable they are, mind
He hasn't trained today.
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Dangerous game as they can do to us what we did to city.
A bit patronising to Hull that. They have the quality to win without it being a smash-and-grab.
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Gaffer on injured trio.
Gabby Agbonlahor and Ashley Westwood could return to the Villa squad for Saturday's trip to Hull City.
Agbonlahor has been out of action with an ankle injury since the 1-0 victory over Norwich a fortnight ago, while a thigh strain has kept Westwood on the sidelines for the past three weeks.
But the pair resumed training this week and manager Paul Lambert is hoping to name both players in his squad for the clash at the KC Stadium.
"There's a few of them doing fine and they trained this morning," said Lambert.
"Gabby and Westy are doing alright. We'll see how they are tomorrow and if they don't react we'll put them in the squad."
Meanwhile, Lambert says Villa are in "good dialogue" with the Belgium national set-up over Christian Benteke 's selection for the forthcoming World Cup qualifiers.
Benteke has been included in the squad for his nation team's games against Croatia and Wales even though he is recovering from a hip flexor injury.
"I've spoken to [Belgium coach] Marc Wilmots and the medical people have had good dialogue so there are no problems," the manager added.
"He is doing really well so we just have to wait and see how he is feeling.
"I've spoken to Christian every day as I do with everybody else. He is doing alright.
"I trust him to look after himself as well. You can only take him so far.
"I trust Christian, I've spoken to him and I've spoken to the medical people.
"I don't tend to get too caught up in the whole scenario."
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Fellow Villa fans it's time for a draw, 1-1
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Draws? Where we're going, we don't do draws.
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Bravo Eamonn!
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Draws? Where we're going, we don't do draws.
This should be our new motto.
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Paul Lambert was absolutely thrilled with the level of performance in the win over Man City, as he called for more of the same against Hull on Saturday.
Lambert said the display in the 3-2 victory was "everything you'd want from a football team."
Now he has urged his players to put on another show at the KC Stadium and go all-out for another three points.
He said: "I've never wavered from the way I want us to play. We've always tried to play intense football with energy and we've never changed that since I've been here.
"So it's important to go and try and win matches and if we do that on Saturday then it's three on the bounce. We're playing well enough to go there and win.
"At the weekend, I knew we were up against one of the best teams in the country and that we had to play ever so well to try to get something from the game.
"I thought the lads had everything that you'd want from footballers - fight, hunger, desire, determination and togetherness.
"Everything that makes a strong team, we had in abundance.
"Then there was the noise from the crowd. They were brilliant. Everything about it was absolutely fantastic. The crowd were right with us.
"And considering the injuries we had - we lost four big players - the lads who came in did great.
"To come back from a goal down to Man City is hard enough but to do it again and go on to win it was a fabulous result for us. We were delighted to win. I had a team out there who would go through anything and everything for you.
"The way we won it, the manner in which we did it, was exceptional.
"Now we have Hull. We have to show the right attitude, the right way of playing and the right frame of mind because this is not an easy game to play.
"Hull have started well but our away form has been excellent. We've got a goal threat, that's for sure, and we'll go there to try and win.
"They have had an excellent start and that usually happens with a newly-promoted team. It's new, it's fresh and they go into the unknown in every game. You do get that freshness.
"It's a different type of game to the one against City. If we keep our away form and the way we are playing then we will certainly create chances.
"You have to earn the right to go and win a game. We will go up there and do everything we can to win it.
"The lads are playing well. There's a lot of confidence. And our away form is good."
Of course, Villa showed their attacking prowess with three goals against one of the favourites for the Barclays Premier League title without star strikers Christian Benteke and Gabby Agbonlahor .
Not that Lambert doubted his forwards.
He added: "I never really worried. I knew what I had. I work with them every day. I knew there were lads who were willing to go to the well for you.
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Looking forward to tomorrow, my first trip to the KC. Also, I haven't seen us lose away in 2013 and expect the run to continue tomorrow.
1-0 Villa.
Agbonlahor 56 mins.
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"I knew there were lads who were willing to go to the well for you."
I think I know what he's getting at but have never heard that proverb (is it a proverb?) before.
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I see Mystic Lawro has gone for 1-1, but I'm going more likely to believe that fine football pundit Michael Palin who has gone for a 3-1 away win!
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Draws? Where we're going, we don't do draws.
We don't need no stinking draws
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I see Hull are planning their own 19th minute thing (19:04 to be precise) to voice their disapproval at the impending name change to Hull Tigers...
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I asssume that were in the south stand? Hull web site still has a number of tickets left...would be rude not to help their revenue ;)
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The Tigers 1 - 5 AVFC
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Michael Palin has us down to win 3-1, I've always liked him.
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Michael Palin has us down to win 3-1, I've always liked him.
3-1 is right out!
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"I knew there were lads who were willing to go to the well for you."
I think I know what he's getting at but have never heard that proverb (is it a proverb?) before.
water carriers?
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Draw @ 2/1 sounds good to me.
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3-5-2 might not be a bad system as a temporary measure at VP. I expect tomorrow we'll revert back to 4-3-3, Gabby replacing Baker to play on the left of Kozak. We'll have too much for Hull on the break, 3-1 Gabby, Delph and Kozak
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I've gone for the draw - 28 games since our last 0-0 ?
We seem to breaking a lot of our long standing sequences this season so it could be time.
Some stats from the DM:-
Hull City have won back to back Premier League games for the first time since October 2008.
Aston Villa have kept only one clean sheet in their last 28 league games, but this did come in their last away trip in the competition.
Only on six occasions this season has a side won a game despite conceding the first goal – two of these occasions have seen Aston Villa achieve the feat.
Aston Villa have the lowest average possession figure in the Premier League this season (39.9 per cent), Hull have the second lowest (42.7 per cent).
There have been just four goals scored in the three Premier League games at KC Stadium this season, three of which have been scored by Hull.
Hull have the chance to win back-to-back home matches in the Premier League for the first time in their history.
The Tigers have conceded only one goal in their last four top-flight home games.
Villa have won five of their last eight away games in the Premier League (L2, D1).
Aston Villa have not won three successive Premier League matches since April 2010.
15.7 per cent of Aston Villa’s passes have been hit long (35 yards or more) this season; a league-high ratio.
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I thought Hull would be one of the whipping boys of the division this year, but they've started quite well and are in good form at the moment.
Getting Gabby back would be very useful. Also might be worth going back to the 4-3-3 and regular away tactics.
Difference this time his job is just to keep his team in the diverison and it looks as if there might be enough there to do that.
1-2 to Villa.
This is one of those games where if we got an early lead we could go on and get a few and win easy, but if not it could be a tense afternoon.
It will be a tricky game because of their start and them being at strong at home, if we can keep the crowd quiet and control the pace of the game then I think we should edge it.
1-2 win to the Villa!
That's Steve Bruce all over though. He starts well but in the end everything goes tits up and he gets the sack.
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Gary Gardner-
@22Gards: More news on my back injury today hoping to be back in 3 to 4 weeks been very frustrating for me but now it's time to work hard and get back
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Gary Gardner-
@22Gards: More news on my back injury today hoping to be back in 3 to 4 weeks been very frustrating for me but now it's time to work hard and get back
Real shame for GG with his injury record. With the luck he has, if he fell in to a barrel of boobs he'd come out sucking his thumb. It's one reason why I think he may well struggle to make it. He may get shipped off before he's had the chance to establish himself. Delphy had the benefit of a long contract and it took him a while to establish himself, but he finally did it. It's rare players get that much time at this level.
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I think you'll find it happens quite a lot when you comeback from a nasty injury to get niggly knocks for the next 6-12 months - particularly in youngsters and the clubs kind of expect it - for me there are spots alongside Fabian to be played for and a fit Gardner has the opportunity to compete for those when he is fully fit.
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Delph should be a good example for Gary continuing to preserve from these setbacks.
Once fit though I'd send him on loan until xmas.
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This is the sort of match that requires a humdrum low scoring away win, which seems unimportant at the time but then clinches one place higher in the league for big benefits at the end of the season.
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I'll go 0 -7 to the Villa, then. We don't do humdrum!
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The rain falls hard on a humdrum town, this town has dragged you down (Hull?)
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I am going for 3-1 win, but the reasoning behind it is lager, cider, wine and vodka. There again I did suggest it to Villa mate on Friday morning
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ladies and gents is gabby fit?
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Can't believe i'm up this early on a Saturday to go to smegging Hull. The things we do for the Villa!
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Can't believe i'm up this early on a Saturday to go to smegging Hull. The things we do for the Villa!
Yep, me too. We're off at quarter past 8.
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Can't believe i'm up this early on a Saturday to go to smegging Hull. The things we do for the Villa!
Yep, me too. We're off at quarter past 8.
I thought our coach leaving at 9.30am was early! You going to Hull via Glasgow Clamps?
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Can't believe i'm up this early on a Saturday to go to smegging Hull. The things we do for the Villa!
Yep, me too. We're off at quarter past 8.
8-15 to hull? Are you going by coach and horses ;)
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Can't believe i'm up this early on a Saturday to go to smegging Hull. The things we do for the Villa!
Yep, me too. We're off at quarter past 8.
I thought our coach leaving at 9.30am was early! You going to Hull via Glasgow Clamps?
We leave at 8.30 every away game. I think there may be beer involved.
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Can't believe i'm up this early on a Saturday to go to smegging Hull. The things we do for the Villa!
Yep, me too. We're off at quarter past 8.
8-15 to hull? Are you going by coach and horses ;)
More like TO The Coach and Horses!
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ladies and gents is gabby fit?
He is definitely in the squad. So that would be a yes !!!
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ladies and gents is gabby fit?
Well he's not really my type but each to their own.
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ladies and gents is gabby fit?
Well he's not really my type but each to their own.
My Mrs says he has nice thighs and a chunky arse.
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ladies and gents is gabby fit?
Well he's not really my type but each to their own.
My Mrs says he has nice thighs and a chunky arse.
You are lucky she even knows who he is dan, mine hates football:(
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Delph should be a good example for Gary continuing to preserve from these setbacks.
Once fit though I'd send him on loan until xmas.
Agree. And a good example for fans expecting too much too soon. Doesn't look first team ready to me. Which is no surprise given the football he's missed.
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I have a feeling of doom. I hope I am wrong. I will try to counteract it by betting 1-3 to the Villa.
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After beating Man City unexpectedly last week, I wouldn't be surprised if we did lose. But I was proven wrong last week so lets hope I am again this weekend.
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Really surprised this week by the number of posters predicting a draw or defeat here - this in one of those games where we should be looking to take 3 points away from home along with the likes of palace, Norwich etc .
I would be disappointed with a draw - we should win at places like hull and I believe we will do so.
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Really surprised this week by the number of posters predicting a draw or defeat here - this in one of those games where we should be looking to take 3 points away from home along with the likes of palace, Norwich etc .
I would be disappointed with a draw - we should win at places like hull and I believe we will do so.
Absolutely. A clean sheet and another win. 3-0 Villa.
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High scoring draw ,2-2
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Any news as to whether Coach 9 has been hit by an asteroid, caught up in an alien tractor beam or attacked by the Humber version of Godzilla ?
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I have a very bad feeling about this. I fear Spudface will be attempting to contort his face into something approaching a smile at quarter to five today.
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Any news as to whether Coach 9 has been hit by an asteroid, caught up in an alien tractor beam or attacked by the Humber version of Godzilla ?
Is Legion on that one ?
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The pre match pessimism before man city I can understand , but this is an inexperienced hull city we are playing and I am surprised so many lack confidence in our team today .
Come 5pm we will be celebrating our return to the top 6 i firmly believe .
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You know how we haven't drawn this season yet? Well, today's game looks like the perfect way to return to this venerable Villa tradition.
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You know how we haven't drawn this season yet? Well, today's game looks like the perfect way to return to this venerable Villa tradition.
Win today and draw with spurs will satisfy me .
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Really surprised this week by the number of posters predicting a draw or defeat here - this in one of those games where we should be looking to take 3 points away from home along with the likes of palace, Norwich etc .
I would be disappointed with a draw - we should win at places like hull and I believe we will do so.
My sentiments echoed. Away from home, we should fear no-one. Least of all the likes of these. We're Aston Villa, ffs. Bollocks to possession stats and all that inconsequential periphery on days like today, goals win games, and we will score more than them. An away win is fully anticipated by this household.
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Fancy us for this one. Back to 4-3-3, invite them on to us and then hit them on the break. 3-1 Villa win for me.
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You know how we haven't drawn this season yet? Well, today's game looks like the perfect way to return to this venerable Villa tradition.
Win today and draw with spurs will satisfy me .
Not lose today and beat Spurs will satisfy me old chap!
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On the basis that my predictions aren't right that often, I've gone for a draw. Whilst realising that does include the possibility of a Hull win, that's not the spirit in which my prediction was made.
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No doubt Hull can win this game but they won't.
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You know how we haven't drawn this season yet? Well, today's game looks like the perfect way to return to this venerable Villa tradition.
Win today and draw with spurs will satisfy me .
Not lose today and beat Spurs will satisfy me old chap!
Less of the old please , thats 54 and over ;)
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Beat Hull, beat Spurs.
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Beat Hull, beat Spurs.
Agree. Our first team has shown it is capable of winning both games.
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Beat Hull, beat Spurs.
Agree. Our first team has shown it is capable of winning both games.
Really?
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Beat Hull, beat Spurs.
Agree. Our first team has shown it is capable of winning both games.
Really?
Off course we are. We've beaten Arsenal and Man City and should have at least got a point at Chelsea. I hope you are not looking at the recent reserve League Cup fixture against Spurs as an indicator as to how the PL will go.
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Beat Hull, beat Spurs.
Agree. Our first team has shown it is capable of winning both games.
Really?
Off course we are. We've beaten Arsenal and Man City and should have at least got a point at Chelsea. I hope you are not looking at the recent reserve League Cup fixture against Spurs as an indicator as to how the PL will go.
Not at all, I'm looking to how Rosicky could and should have scored 5 against us on his own, how extremely lucky we were against City. How poor we were first half v's Liverpool, how even it was v's Norwich and how junk we were playing Newcastle.
Hull aren't a bad team, played well so far and Spurs should beat us...I don't get why people are saying we're amazing all of a sudden!?
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Not at all, I'm looking to how Rosicky could and should have scored 5 against us on his own, how extremely lucky we were against City. How poor we were first half v's Liverpool, how even it was v's Norwich and how junk we were playing Newcastle.
Hull aren't a bad team, played well so far and Spurs should beat us...I don't get why people are saying we're amazing all of a sudden!?
That post made me laugh out loud. Cheers for that.
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Not at all, I'm looking to how Rosicky could and should have scored 5 against us on his own, how extremely lucky we were against City. How poor we were first half v's Liverpool, how even it was v's Norwich and how junk we were playing Newcastle.
Hull aren't a bad team, played well so far and Spurs should beat us...I don't get why people are saying we're amazing all of a sudden!?
That post made me laugh out loud. Cheers for that.
I'm here til 5
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I think this could be (for the neutral) an entertaining game. Both sides like to play a bit but have frailties.
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Guzan,Bacuna, Vlaar, Clark KEA, Westwood, Weimann, Luna, Delph, Gabby, Kozak
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Subs, Steer, Baker, Herd, Bennett, Bowery, Tonev, Sylla
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Beat Hull, beat Spurs.
Agree. Our first team has shown it is capable of winning both games.
Really?
Off course we are. We've beaten Arsenal and Man City and should have at least got a point at Chelsea. I hope you are not looking at the recent reserve League Cup fixture against Spurs as an indicator as to how the PL will go.
Not at all, I'm looking to how Rosicky could and should have scored 5 against us on his own, how extremely lucky we were against City. How poor we were first half v's Liverpool, how even it was v's Norwich and how junk we were playing Newcastle.
Hull aren't a bad team, played well so far and Spurs should beat us...I don't get why people are saying we're amazing all of a sudden!?
If you are going to play the ifs and buts games, then you can make a case for us having won the league every season since the dawn of time. The facts are that all of the things you said might have happened didn't and the league table shows what actually happened.
Nobody is saying we are amazing. In fact most on her are quite realistic about what we are capable of and we just beat Man City, however we did it, without a number of our best players.
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Beat Hull, beat Spurs.
Agree. Our first team has shown it is capable of winning both games.
Really?
Off course we are. We've beaten Arsenal and Man City and should have at least got a point at Chelsea. I hope you are not looking at the recent reserve League Cup fixture against Spurs as an indicator as to how the PL will go.
Not at all, I'm looking to how Rosicky could and should have scored 5 against us on his own, how extremely lucky we were against City. How poor we were first half v's Liverpool, how even it was v's Norwich and how junk we were playing Newcastle.
Hull aren't a bad team, played well so far and Spurs should beat us...I don't get why people are saying we're amazing all of a sudden!?
But I don't think people are saying we're amazing are they, just that its been a positive start and that things are much improved.
I see us as mid-table team with room to improve further and I expect us to finish rougly 11th or 10th this season.
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I think this could be (for the neutral) an entertaining game. Both sides like to play a bit but have frailties.
Fuck the neutrals. Especially the ones that read the Daily Mail.
Three points for Villa, no problem.
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I think this could be (for the neutral) an entertaining game. Both sides like to play a bit but have frailties.
Ha! you nailed it there, Paulie.