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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on September 22, 2013, 06:14:33 PM
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Any news?
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Cheeky bastard. Hobbles off injured and now he's going skiing.
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Dreadful colour those sticks. Surely we have claret and blue lying around somewhere?
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No need to panic, he's clearly just showing support for his idol Walt Jr for the Breaking Bad finale.
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Cheeky bastard. Hobbles off injured and now he's going skiing.
Very good.
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I reckon he'll be 50/50 for Hull, so 2-3 games out (including the cup).
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Don't like the look of his comment with this photo, or the fact he needs crutches. We need him.
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Don't like the look of his comment with this photo, or the fact he needs crutches. We need him.
I don't know the extent of the injury, but, I do know that crutches are used regardless these days.
It just stops any minor injury being aggravated.
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I like the fact that he respects McGrath in his darkest moment!
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My son said earlier "I bet there aren't crutches strong enough to hold him up!"
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It will be 3-4 weeks you would think. Helenius and Kozak have big roles to play.
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It will be 3-4 weeks you would think. Helenius and Kozak have big roles to play.
It's a great opportunity for them both to show how good they can be. If either of them step up it'll be great for the morale of the squad and also the future when Benteke predictably leaves. If they fail then we have the security of knowing the Beast will return before we're too doomed.
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It will be 3-4 weeks you would think. Helenius and Kozak have big roles to play.
An enforced change/opportunity may be a good thing?
Allows Lambo, the team and us to get used to Life Without Benteke.
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It will be 3-4 weeks you would think. Helenius and Kozak have big roles to play.
An enforced change/opportunity may be a good thing?
Allows Lambo, the team and us to get used to Life Without Benteke.
Exactly. If one of them proves good enough then it'll take the pressure off Lambert massively in the summer (assuming Benteke leaves).
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It also might just take some pressure off Benteke and get him out of the thinking of the opposition a little for when he comes back. If Kozak can score 3-4 goals though and keep us ticking over it would be grand.
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I have no idea how we're going to cope without him. Hope it's not serious, we can't afford to be without him for a couple of months.
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I thought it was a hip flexor and only a week out. Toronto promised :(
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Will the premier league allow us to replace Benteke with both Helenius AND Kozack?
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I have no idea how we're going to cope without him.
Well on Saturday we won 1-0 without him, so hopefully we'll be okay for a bit.
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I thought it was a hip flexor and only a week out. Toronto promised :(
Like I said it depends how serious. Sorry, I've suffered one and in doing so did a little research. One of those injuries that is painful and it will really come down to the grade of the injury. It can be a couple weeks at least properly recover from it. I reckon he'll miss two games, maybe three if it isn't too bad.
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I thought it was a hip flexor and only a week out. Toronto promised :(
Like I said it depends how serious. Sorry, I've suffered one and in doing so did a little research. One of those injuries that is painful and it will really come down to the grade of the injury. It can be a couple weeks at least properly recover from it. I reckon he'll miss two games, maybe three if it isn't too bad.
Considering the game on Tuesday he may well have been rested anyway, and if there was a home game I would choose him to miss it would be next week, the timing of a 4-5 week injury may not actually be that bad. Hull away would be the big miss for me, it is a realistic opportunity to win, and he would have been fun against them. He might be back for that yet though... fingers crossed, although I doubt we will risk him, and I would hope Belgium would then leave him out and he would be fully fit going into Spurs and Everton at home, 2 very tough back to back games.
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The international break couldn't be coming up at a better time.
If he's out till Mid October, it's only 2 league games.
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In a weird way, at the moment I'd rather benteke out and kozak in for him than lose gabby. He seems to have his best games when he really needs to.
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express & star
PL says benteke could play on saturday
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express & star
PL says benteke could play on saturday
That would be fantastic news.
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express & star
PL says benteke could play on saturday
That would be fantastic news.
I saw that aswell, not sure what they are basing it on though, only repeated Lambert's post-match quotes, no new information?
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I have no idea how we're going to cope without him.
Well on Saturday we won 1-0 without him, so hopefully we'll be okay for a bit.
I don't know. It wasn't a great performance by us and Norwich were pretty poor. I'll take the three points every time though!
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express & star
PL says benteke could play on saturday
But there again he might not...
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Saturday seems too soon to me. I doubt PL will rush him back and take any risks.
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Don't want to alarm anybody, but, news from Bodymoor is that Benteke may be out for up to two months, depending how he responds to heavy treatment.
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Don't want to alarm anybody, but, news from Bodymoor is that Benteke may be out for up to two months, depending how he responds to heavy treatment.
Could be a blessing that we got Kozak after all then .
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we know how important he is to the team BUT, we have got to learn to play without him sometime.
Without being disparaging in anyway, we are in danger of becoming a far too dependant on him.
It almost looked desperate on Saturday when we trying to get him back on after he came off for treatment.
If he is out for a little while, we really have to treat it as a blessing in disguise.
It means we have to learn to play without him in the team.
It gives other players to establish themselves and bed in.
It also takes some pressure of Benteke. If he knows the team can play without him, maybe he won't feel under so much pressure when he does come back.
Then again, with him out, it could all go to shit and we could totally fall apart :-) !
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Don't want to alarm anybody, but, news from Bodymoor is that Benteke may be out for up to two months, depending how he responds to heavy treatment.
Dan, has Julie Bayley been in touch with you with some inside voices offering an exclusive?
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How long does it take to check an MRI scan?? This seems incredibly slow......
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How long does it take to check an MRI scan?? This seems incredibly slow......
I'm no doctor but I doubt its as easy as taking a quick look at the scan, and going '.........hhmmmmm, looks like....... 9 days!'.
I reckon they already know but arent releasing it so as not to take attention away from the game tonight.
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How long does it take to check an MRI scan?? This seems incredibly slow......
I'm no doctor but I doubt its as easy as taking a quick look at the scan, and going '.........hhmmmmm, looks like....... 9 days!'.
I reckon they already know but arent releasing it so as not to take attention away from the game tonight.
Would be a shock to spurs if he played tonight :)
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How long does it take to check an MRI scan?? This seems incredibly slow......
I'm no doctor but I doubt its as easy as taking a quick look at the scan, and going '.........hhmmmmm, looks like....... 9 days!'.
I reckon they already know but arent releasing it so as not to take attention away from the game tonight.
Would be a shock to spurs if he played tonight :)
Paul Lambert - mind games master
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How long does it take to check an MRI scan?? This seems incredibly slow......
Depends on how long the scan is! I mean if it's a mile long it could take a week.
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MRI scans are 3D images of the injured area which are assessed on a computer screen
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Like AndyH I see this as a chance for the team to develop and to develop ways of playing without the big man. A chance for other players to step up both in terms of performance and taking responsibility.
Another silver lining is it'll hopefully deter anyone from bidding in January as he'll be just back from injury (well kind of).
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Dante
Your clutching at straws mate!!
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Some good news on this front would be very welcome tomorrow.
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Who would people start on Saturday Kozak or Helenius?
I assume Weimann was rested tonight for Saturday and hopefully Gabby will make it as he's usually a quick healer from knocks.
Kozak seems the obvious pick but I dunno he's not that mobile so I feel Kompany will handle him comfortably. Helenius has a bit about him for me, easy to forget but he should've won us a penalty at 0-1 which might have changed things.
No Tonev nonsense please, we need three central midfielders just to attempt to tackle Yaya I think.
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@MatKendrick: Hearing that Christian Benteke is out for a month #avfc
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a month is only 2 matches, if he's back for spurs on the 20th october.
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SSN reporting up to 6 weeks
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The BBC has Lambert saying four weeks:
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INJURY NEWS
Aston Villa boss Paul Lambert says Christian Benteke will be out for four weeks with a hip injury.
So back in time for Everton at home?
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Hopefully Spurs at least to make that game competitive.
He's out for the next two games and then there's a two week international break aswell, we then play Spurs on the sunday so hopefully there's enough time to get him fit for that.
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"Four, five or six weeks," according to the manager.
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Hmmm might be November then.
Only consolation is at least this didn't happen March time last season otherwise we'd be in the championship now.
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On the way back tonight 5 Live interviewed Lambert and he said not as bad as originally thought - maybe 4 weeks, and the international break will help us as he'll miss less games. I reckon he'll be back for the Spurs game
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"Four, five or six weeks," according to the manager.
That's clear then. Either way, the international break will take up a chunk of the time. Just have to try and make do without him in the meantime.
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Thank God for the international break.
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I just hope we don't try and rush him back. I'd rather he miss another game or two and come back fully fit.
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What about Gabby's knock?
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What about Gabby's knock?
There's a bad joke there just waiting to be made.
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Could be worse. Could be better. Hopefully our other attacking players step up now without Benteke there to get them out of jail.
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We would miss Gabby more, certainly away from Villa Park. He is completely and utterly essential to the way we play, and our next 2 forward signings have to to be guile and pace.
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We would miss Gabby more, certainly away from Villa Park. He is completely and utterly essential to the way we play, and our next 2 forward signings have to to be guile and pace.
We're more likley to sign Hale and Pace ;)
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Or Guile from Streetfighter 2... (Gets coat/taxi etc)
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We would miss Gabby more, certainly away from Villa Park. He is completely and utterly essential to the way we play, and our next 2 forward signings have to to be guile and pace.
I bet we'll get those forwards before another defender
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This season is turning pear-shaped with the loss of key players. I'm not convinced that Kozak can fill in for Benteke at the moment.
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Rest up big man, come back stronger and bag the goals to fire us up the league.
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4-6 weeks is ok.
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It could have been a lot worse and the international break will obviously help.
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Its worrying because the earlier you start whacking points on the board, the better. Benteke is our only goal threat. So somehow or another our defence has to really improve. In 6 weeks time when he's back, we could be dipping our toes in shit creek and waiting for Benteke to come back with our paddle.
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This season is turning pear-shaped with the loss of key players. I'm not convinced that Kozak can fill in for Benteke at the moment.
I thought Kozak did ok last night considering a) the service he was provided with was usually rubbish (there was one exception when he ran in the gap between the centre back and full back and was spotted by, I think, Vlaar); and b) he might as well have had the pox given the gap between him and any other Villa player. Not one got alongside him during the 45 mins he was on, so that he could play a 1-2 or run off them.
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If we have an option to recall Bent, I'd definitely to be doing so.
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Paul Lambert has confirmed that Christian Benteke will be out for four-six weeks with his hip injury.
Lambert revealed the news was better than he first feared after results of a scan emerged this evening.
Villa boss Lambert said Benteke is already feeling better and will work hard to return as soon as he can.
Lambert also revealed Benteke would not need an operation, with time the great healer in this situation.
He said: "It's not as bad as we feared it was going to be.
"It's maybe four, five, six weeks or so.
"You have that international break which certainly helps us.
"But he's feeling a lot better to be fair. We will have to wait and see.
"We spoke to the medical people before and they give the best and worst case scenarios. You are never quite sure until you hear from the professor to find out how it is.
"But he's feeling a lot better."
Asked whether an operation was needed, he continued: "It's just a muscle injury. It's nothing like that. It's not too severe.
"We will try to get him back as quick as possible."
Lambert said Benteke's loss can be another striker's gain as the likes of Libor Kozak, Nicklas Helenius and Jordan Bowery come into his thinking for the next month of action.
He added: "They have to relish the challenge of that.
"Libor won a lot of aerial balls. It was tough because Tottenham are right on you.
"But I thought he coped really fine. Then we will have other ones back at the weekend which will certainly help.
"I think a few will be back. Ciaran was left out because he was feeling hamstring problems on Saturday.
"Andi has played a lot of games.
"Gabby, Fabian and Antonio will hopefully all be back."
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@bentekechris20: thank you everyone for the support I already walking without crutch I'd be back soon #GodIsGreat
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@bentekechris20: thank you everyone for the support I already walking without crutch I'd be back soon #GodIsGreat
#yesyouare
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@bentekechris20: thank you everyone for the support I already walking without crutch I'd be back soon #GodIsGreat
What's with the "God is great" crap?
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@bentekechris20: thank you everyone for the support I already walking without crutch I'd be back soon #GodIsGreat
What's with the "God is great" crap?
He's religious.
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@bentekechris20: thank you everyone for the support I already walking without crutch I'd be back soon #GodIsGreat
What's with the "God is great" crap?
He's religious.
When he scores, it ain't the floodlights he's pointing to
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Hopefully back sooner than expected (http://bit.ly/194BWwK)
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Hopefully he won't risk being played by Belgium in their 2 qualifying games in October
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I think the 4-6 weeks thing is what it would take for a human being to recover from a hip flexor injury. Naturally, figuring out how long a being hitherto unknown to science will take to heal is an inexact art.
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This season is turning pear-shaped with the loss of key players. I'm not convinced that Kozak can fill in for Benteke at the moment.
I thought Kozak did ok last night considering a) the service he was provided with was usually rubbish (there was one exception when he ran in the gap between the centre back and full back and was spotted by, I think, Vlaar); and b) he might as well have had the pox given the gap between him and any other Villa player. Not one got alongside him during the 45 mins he was on, so that he could play a 1-2 or run off them.
Exactly what I thought at the time fred. No good pumping the ball up to him if he's got no-one to flick it on to, which he attempted a few times. We need to attack as a unit and set up a high line - not defend on the edge of our own box and hope a long ball finds Gabby or Weimann.
Come back soon big man!
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I posted this in off topic for somebody else who is injured, who recommended that it was sent to CB as it would make him feel better immediately.
Get well soon!
Keep taking the tablets!
Keep the weight off it!
Keep it up, covered in frozen peas!
Run out of old saws so, I hope you are out and about and newly invigorated at the end of the enforced sit on the sofa with your 'Villa FA Cup Victories' DVD for company.
No idea how to get it to CB but if the message has the magical healing properties suggested so far, can we take the chance?
Hopefully some Villa fan reading this thread has the wherewithal to channel the force to where it is needed. Benteke's hip. Failing that, his social media twittering interface, as I believe the young people might say.
UTV!
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I posted this in off topic for somebody else who is injured, who recommended that it was sent to CB as it would make him feel better immediately.
Get well soon!
Keep taking the tablets!
Keep the weight off it!
Keep it up, covered in frozen peas!
Run out of old saws so, I hope you are out and about and newly invigorated at the end of the enforced sit on the sofa with your 'Villa FA Cup Victories' DVD for company.
No idea how to get it to CB but if the message has the magical healing properties suggested so far, can we take the chance?
Hopefully some Villa fan reading this thread has the wherewithal to channel the force to where it is needed. Benteke's hip. Failing that, his social media twittering interface, as I believe the young people might say.
UTV!
I think our eastie is on twitter terms with him. Not 100% sure though.
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I'd assume that eastie has tried to get on Twitter terms with every Villa player. And probably many of their immediate families as well.
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I'd assume that eastie has tried to get on Twitter terms with every Villa player. And probably many of their immediate families as well.
No need.
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I posted this in off topic for somebody else who is injured, who recommended that it was sent to CB as it would make him feel better immediately.
Get well soon!
Keep taking the tablets!
Keep the weight off it!
Keep it up, covered in frozen peas!
Run out of old saws so, I hope you are out and about and newly invigorated at the end of the enforced sit on the sofa with your 'Villa FA Cup Victories' DVD for company.
No idea how to get it to CB but if the message has the magical healing properties suggested so far, can we take the chance?
Hopefully some Villa fan reading this thread has the wherewithal to channel the force to where it is needed. Benteke's hip. Failing that, his social media twittering interface, as I believe the young people might say.
UTV!
I think our eastie is on twitter terms with him. Not 100% sure though.
Good grief.
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I'd assume that eastie has tried to get on Twitter terms with every Villa player. And probably many of their immediate families as well.
No need.
Is that how you get flatbread?
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I posted this in off topic for somebody else who is injured, who recommended that it was sent to CB as it would make him feel better immediately.
Get well soon!
Keep taking the tablets!
Keep the weight off it!
Keep it up, covered in frozen peas!
Run out of old saws so, I hope you are out and about and newly invigorated at the end of the enforced sit on the sofa with your 'Villa FA Cup Victories' DVD for company.
No idea how to get it to CB but if the message has the magical healing properties suggested so far, can we take the chance?
Hopefully some Villa fan reading this thread has the wherewithal to channel the force to where it is needed. Benteke's hip. Failing that, his social media twittering interface, as I believe the young people might say.
UTV!
I think our eastie is on twitter terms with him. Not 100% sure though.
Good grief.
Failing a magic poultice up your sleeve I am waiting for you to suggest an alternative.
Unless ....you have a way to get this message to CB.
In which case, go do that voodoo that you do so well, as the song goes. UTV!
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@bentekechris20: thank you everyone for the support I already walking without crutch I'd be back soon #GodIsGreat
What's with the "God is great" crap?
He's religious.
When he scores, it ain't the floodlights he's pointing to
Quality.
If Christian wasn't a Christian would he be half the player he is? Maybe he can come on to H&V and burn a few non-believers with his views in Off Topic.
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I'd assume that eastie has tried to get on Twitter terms with every Villa player. And probably many of their immediate families as well.
In that case your assumption would be very wrong .
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Hope this isn't one of those injuries like Vlaar gets when he's out for 4 weeks which turns into 12 weeks .
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Hope this isn't one of those injuries like Vlaar gets when he's out for 4 weeks which turns into 12 weeks .
How does a story on the OS saying he'll be back sooner that expected lead to that post? I'm not taking the I'm just interested in the thought process that you'd have to follow because it makes no sense to me at all.
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Hope this isn't one of those injuries like Vlaar gets when he's out for 4 weeks which turns into 12 weeks .
How does a story on the OS saying he'll be back sooner that expected lead to that post? I'm not taking the I'm just interested in the thought process that you'd have to follow because it makes no sense to me at all.
Some people enjoy being negative. I imagine they prey for tooth ache.
The above post is symptomatic of his condition, see; "would any body else take a 0-2 now post" and his "look at me! I cannot be arsed to go post!".
Haters gonna hate, event at half eight in the morning it would seem.
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@MatKendrick: Belgium team doctor to visit Bodymoor soon to assess Benteke, who has been told by #avfc not to risk aggravating injury by flying
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@MatKendrick: Belgium team doctor to visit Bodymoor soon to assess Benteke, who has been told by #avfc not to risk aggravating injury by flying
That's got to add another £10m to his value. Not that I want to sell him, of course, but what a multiskilled asset he's turned out to be.
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@MatKendrick: Belgium team doctor to visit Bodymoor soon to assess Benteke, who has been told by #avfc not to risk aggravating injury by flying
That's got to add another £10m to his value. Not that I want to sell him, of course, but what a multiskilled asset he's turned out to be.
Ha ha. He pretty fly for a Belgan guy.
Seriously though, if he flew easyjet or suchlike, or steerage on one of the main airlines, it would be more than the hip that would be banjaxed:
Your thigh bone connected to your hip bone
Your hip bone connected to your back bone
Your back bone connected to your shoulder bone
Your shoulder bone connected to your neck bone
Your neck bone connected to your head bone
I hear the word of the Lord.
Could even fuck up his head bone fo sho.
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Perhaps the club could put a photo of CB on the cover of the programme tomorrow and ask for a 'Sun' like intervention from fans where everybody concentrates positive mending thoughts on Benteke's hip at a given time during the match, like they did with a famous metatarsal, once...
Well, it's Friday.
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@MatKendrick: Belgium team doctor to visit Bodymoor soon to assess Benteke, who has been told by #avfc not to risk aggravating injury by flying
Didn't he fly back from Norwich?
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@MatKendrick: Belgium team doctor to visit Bodymoor soon to assess Benteke, who has been told by #avfc not to risk aggravating injury by flying
Didn't he fly back from Norwich?
I understand that he was offered a ride home with Jack Woodward and opted for the flight even if it meant an extra two weeks of rehab.
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By James Nursey | 02/10/13
Christian Benteke is set to be named in Belgium’s latest squad - despite his Aston Villa manager Paul Lambert insisting the injured striker should not play.
Lambert has crocked Benteke pencilled in for a return to the Villa side against Tottenham after the international break on October 20.
The Scot said last week that if his star man was not fit for club football, then he would not play for his country.
But Belgium are still expecting the 22-year-old to return home on Sunday ahead of World Cup qualifiers versus Croatia and Wales that should see them book their place at next summer's finals.
The Belgian FA sent physio Lieven Maesschalck to Birmingham this week to assess Benteke, who is on the mend from a hip injury.
Belgium lead their group and need one more point to confirm qualification for Brazil next summer, going into an away game against second-placed Croatia a week on Friday.
Benteke, who has five goals this term, was initially ruled out for up to six weeks after scans on his hip injury a week ago.
But Belgium boss Marc Wilmots has been in regular touch with Villa and the fast-improving Benteke.
A compromise that would see Belgium calling up Benteke so he can be used, if needs be, in their final qualifier - at home to Wales on October 15 - is a possibility.
The star will have further treatment on his injury in Belgium in the meantime.
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Sorry, Christian who?
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The papers are trying to make a big deal out of this, from what I read the Belgium doctor seemed like he wanted to work with Villa on the matter.
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Let hope he is there to check if Benteke is getting right treatment and cheer him up.
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I am suspicious that this injury as come at the same time as the release of GTA V.
Coincidence? I think not.
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I would imagine our own doctor would go and assess Benteke prior to any game should Belgium want to play him. In the same way they have been over here to assess his fitness.
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If he's fit, then he should play for Belgium. Simple as that. They have every right to select him.
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If he's fit, then he should play for Belgium. Simple as that. They have every right to select him.
Its not in belgiums interests to take any risks wih him either , they need one point to qualify and will hammer wales , I think it would be wise to let him rest and get 100% and that would benefit not only villa but Belgium too.
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The papers are trying to make a big deal out of this, from what I read the Belgium doctor seemed like he wanted to work with Villa on the matter.
It does look as if they're trying to turn it into a club v country row. I'm sure it'll be nothing of the sort.
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I am suspicious that this injury as come at the same time as the release of GTA V.
Coincidence? I think not.
And FIFA14
He's planned a bit of goal scoring and brothel shooting-up
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The papers are trying to make a big deal out of this, from what I read the Belgium doctor seemed like he wanted to work with Villa on the matter.
It does look as if they're trying to turn it into a club v country row. I'm sure it'll be nothing of the sort.
The press like to create a stir - they need stories to sell papers and like to exaggerate - however in nurseys defence he has written a lovely piece about brad which I have copied into the Guzan thread .
Maybe old james is getting over our beating of his beloved Norwich :)
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The papers are trying to make a big deal out of this, from what I read the Belgium doctor seemed like he wanted to work with Villa on the matter.
It does look as if they're trying to turn it into a club v country row. I'm sure it'll be nothing of the sort.
The press like to create a stir - they need stories to sell papers and like to exaggerate - however in nurseys defence he has written a lovely piece about brad which I have copied into the Guzan thread .
Maybe old james is getting over our beating of his beloved Norwich :)
That's just him all over. Says nice things one week, writes a load of crap the next.
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The papers are trying to make a big deal out of this, from what I read the Belgium doctor seemed like he wanted to work with Villa on the matter.
It does look as if they're trying to turn it into a club v country row. I'm sure it'll be nothing of the sort.
The press like to create a stir - they need stories to sell papers and like to exaggerate - however in nurseys defence he has written a lovely piece about brad which I have copied into the Guzan thread .
Maybe old james is getting over our beating of his beloved Norwich :)
That's just him all over. Says nice things one week, writes a load of crap the next.
You've just nailed Nursey there. He is a weasel of the highest order and tries to play football supporters like a violin. Even in one article he can seem to be buttering a player/manager/club up when, what he is actually doing, is sticking the knife in. I genuinely wouldn't let him within a million miles of Villa Park as his main aim is to sow disharmony.
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So Belgium need one point to qualify, from 2 games, one of which is at home to Wales. Surely they could mange that without troubling Beteke, it's not like they don't have a decent squad to choose from.
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I should think Belgium just want to keep Benteke integrated as part of the squad. Even if he doesn't play it's good for the squad harmony during final prep for Brazil where they have a decent outside chance I think.
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All Belgium have to do is to play Lukaku. They should want to act in Benteke's best interests.
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This is where Lambert needs to do a Fergie and show who is the boss.
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I'm sure I read that Lambert was quite pally with Wilmots, the Belgium manager, so I doubt there's any issue.
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Gary Wilmots?
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Gary Wilmots?
It is the Belgian manager's nickname due to the fact the only impression he can do is Errol Brown.
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Gary Wilmots?
It is the Belgian manager's nickname due to the fact the only impression he can do is Errol Brown.
"It started with a kiss, but you were bending over"
Classic.
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Gary Wilmots?
It is the Belgian manager's nickname due to the fact the only impression he can do is Errol Brown.
"It started with a kiss, but you were bending over"
Classic.
And credit where it is due for not milking it dry. "Boiled beef and carrots, boiled beef and carrots..."
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Paul Lambert says he's relaxed about Christan Benteke being called up by Belgium for the two World Cup qualifiers even though he's unfit for his club for at least the next fortnight.
Lambert has spoken to the Belgium manager Marc Willmotts and says there's no problem about Benteke's call-up even though he's still hampered by a hip injury.
"The various physios have spoken to each other and there's no issue between us. I know the country has the right to have their player when they're together before an international so that's it. I worry about every one of my players & injuries when they're away for their countries," Lambert said
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I can see it now, Belgium force the issue and he plays, aggravates his hip injury and misses the Tottenham game on the 20th October......!
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Gary Wilmots?
First-class cooked breakfast at his wedding, mind.
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Gary Wilmots?
First-class cooked breakfast at his wedding, mind.
Ten on ten?
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Text book. Sausage used as a breakwater and everything.
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Belgium have said that he will not play against Croatia and only if needed in the Wales match. No Bale, no need.
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Oh no, Villa in non-club v country Benteke row shocker, what will the Mirror do!!
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The way Lukaku is playing its probably wise for Belgium to play him and let him state his case.
It'll probably motivate Benteke and avoids any club v country debates.
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Hope he's back for the Tottenham game.
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We need him back.
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Time to awaken the beast from his slumber.
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Really are missing the big man. Today was a game crying out for individual brilliance. As well as our old boy Curtis played, I think Benteke would have made dog meat out of him.
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Good lord, Benteke would have destroyed the pub player.
It made me laugh late on when he shanked a ball out for a needless throw in. He is proper shite is our Curtis.
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Harsh. Hull's defensive record is good and he's played a big part in that. Baker can shank just as bad.
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He is a good Championship player, nothing more.
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Edit: Idiot mode/posted on wrong thread
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He is a good Championship player, nothing more.
I'd say that's likely to be Baker's final place as well or maybe low Premier League.
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I'm not a massive fan of his but Clark was superb all day long.
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Last season the general consensus was that Baker was the better defender and Clark was the better footballer. Clark looks like he's matured as a defender now and as well being comfortable on the ball, he now looks a lot more organised and now has the experience that he lacked previously. On the other hand, Baker's going to have a hard time becoming more comfortable on the ball. Between Vlaar, Okore and Clark we've now got 3 definite centre backs for the next few years - Baker's now the one who has to step up.
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I've long thought Clark would emerge as a very good central defender, where things went wrong in the past was mostly down to inexperience, he's now looking less likely to sell himself and looks a good defender because of it, I think he's been our 2nd best player after Delph.
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I was less than hopeful on Clark after last season, but glad to say he's proved me wrong so far - long may it continue.
He also now has a better and more settled midfield infront of him, which can only help.
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Clark has been excellent so far and I think he has a lot more potential than Baker. Baker is still making the exact same mistakes he made when he started, his positional sense just isn't up to it.
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I hope we keep Baker at the club. Otherwise how else am I going to get cup final tickets?
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I hope we keep Baker at the club. Otherwise how else am I going to get cup final tickets?
whats wrong with just watching villa?
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Fit for both WCQ's according to SSN
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They're saying he won't play at all in the first game, but will do in the second game if they haven't guaranteed qualification by then. They only need a point to make the last game meaningless so let's hope they get it.
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To be honest, I'd like Benteke to play some part in at least the second WCQ.
Better that than he's rusty for our next league game
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Half a game against Wales would help towards match fitness for the Spurs game and give him another week in training .......
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Half a game against Wales would help towards match fitness for the Spurs game and give him another week in training .......
If he's fit enough there's no reason why he shouldn't play some part in the second game. It will do him the world of good to get 20-30 minutes in the second half. Should be sufficient time to bag a hattrick against Wales.
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If he's fit and plays some minutes against Wales that'd be great, it'd be fantastic if we could have him back for our next game. He adds so much to our team.
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If he's fit and plays some minutes against Wales that'd be great, it'd be fantastic if we could have him back for our next game. He adds so much to our team.
he not only gives us fans confidence, but you can imagine what he does for the other players. It is especially a massive boost to Gabby and Andi who know exactly how to play with and around him.
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Do we know if he is on the bench for todays game...........
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Do we know if he is on the bench for todays game...........
he's not
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Do we know if he is on the bench for todays game...........
he's not
Thanks Toronto and I like the Lukaku idea............
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Do we know if he is on the bench for todays game...........
he's not
Thanks Toronto and I like the Lukaku idea............
unfortunately sir, I don't see it because you have to think at some point Chelsea will come to their senses and start using him. I think the fact that Torres is there and is almost toxic from a selling standpoint isn't helping matters. Lukaku has time on his hands and they will know that he is developing by playing on a regular basis for club and country. Belgium are just so spolit for choice in that department.
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Do we know if he is on the bench for todays game...........
he's not
Thanks Toronto and I like the Lukaku idea............
unfortunately sir, I don't see it because you have to think at some point Chelsea will come to their senses and start using him. I think the fact that Torres is there and is almost toxic from a selling standpoint isn't helping matters. Lukaku has time on his hands and they will know that he is developing by playing on a regular basis for club and country. Belgium are just so spolit for choice in that department.
In agree I cant see it happening either but its a great idea, prices will go mad next summer due to the World Cup
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Do we know if he is on the bench for todays game...........
he's not
Thanks Toronto and I like the Lukaku idea............
unfortunately sir, I don't see it because you have to think at some point Chelsea will come to their senses and start using him. I think the fact that Torres is there and is almost toxic from a selling standpoint isn't helping matters. Lukaku has time on his hands and they will know that he is developing by playing on a regular basis for club and country. Belgium are just so spolit for choice in that department.
In agree I cant see it happening either but its a great idea, prices will go mad next summer due to the World Cup
The only way I can see that happening is if it is Chelsea who try to buy Benteke.
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Lukaku and £50million please Roman.
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You'd settle for half.
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What £25 million and aku?
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What £25 million and aku?
His name is Luka. He lives on the second floor.
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What £25 million and aku?
His name is Luka. He lives on the second floor.
He lives upstairs from you, yes I think you've seen him before.
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If you hear Benteke Sunday night
with Tottenhams defence in some kinda fight
just ask AVB what it was ......
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What £25 million and aku?
His name is Luka. He lives on the second floor.
He lives upstairs from you, yes I think you've seen him before.
Take a bow you three. Very good.
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Benteke declared himself fit to play, but Wilmots didn't. He trained with the group on Sunday and Monday so that's a good sign. He'll be fit for this weekend I reckon.
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Good news. Hopefully he won't be involved tonight and Spurs won't know about him being fit until they see the team sheet on Sunday.
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The Beast has to be simply ravenous not having played for a few weeks. Let's hope Spurs feel the full effect of his hunger.
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We need him for Sunday so this is encouraging.
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He's on the bench for tonight's game.
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Now i am excited about Sunday.
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who's the lucky bastard mascot that is next to him?
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who's the lucky bastard mascot that is next to him?
If you look, I think he's just there to carry his paper.
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who's the lucky bastard mascot that is next to him?
If you look, I think he's just there to carry his paper.
I wish I was rich. I'd have all kinds of jobs for the poor.
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who's the lucky bastard mascot that is next to him?
Not a mascot - Zakaria Bakkali - supposed to be a bit special, in the full squad at 17.
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who's the lucky bastard mascot that is next to him?
If you look, I think he's just there to carry his paper.
It puts me in mind of that quote from Goodfellas:
"At thirteen, I was making more money than most of the grownups in the neighborhood. I had more money than I could spend. I had it all. One day some of the kids from the neighborhood carried my mother’s groceries all the way home for her. It was out of respect."
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who's the lucky bastard mascot that is next to him?
Not a mascot - Zakaria Bakkali - supposed to be a bit special, in the full squad at 17.
I knew it was a player Paul :) I think Benteke was in another picture with him recently, on Twitter maybe. I was just being an idiot
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who's the lucky bastard mascot that is next to him?
Not a mascot - Zakaria Bakkali - supposed to be a bit special, in the full squad at 17.
So is Benteke "gerrarding" him to sign for us?
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who's the lucky bastard mascot that is next to him?
If you look, I think he's just there to carry his paper.
It puts me in mind of that quote from Goodfellas:
"At thirteen, I was making more money than most of the grownups in the neighborhood. I had more money than I could spend. I had it all. One day some of the kids from the neighborhood carried my mother’s groceries all the way home for her. It was out of respect."
Ahh..if only...
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Good news. Hopefully he won't be involved tonight and Spurs won't know about him being fit until they see the team sheet on Sunday.
Yes as if Jan Vertonghen is deaf, dumb and blind!
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Let's hope none of the teams with belgian players in the Premiership get to hear about it.
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Nobody's going to know whether he's fit enough to start the match or whether he'll be named amongst the substitutes though.
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Good news. Hopefully he won't be involved tonight and Spurs won't know about him being fit until they see the team sheet on Sunday.
Yes as if Jan Vertonghen is deaf, dumb and blind!
Well, he does sure play a mean pinball!
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who's the lucky bastard mascot that is next to him?
Not a mascot - Zakaria Bakkali - supposed to be a bit special, in the full squad at 17.
I knew it was a player Paul :) I think Benteke was in another picture with him recently, on Twitter maybe. I was just being an idiot
I assumed as much, just wanted to point out specifically who he was.
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Benteke declared himself fit to play, but Wilmots didn't. He trained with the group on Sunday and Monday so that's a good sign. He'll be fit for this weekend I reckon.
It does sound promising, but persoanlly I'd ere on the aide of caution and have him on the bench. Give him 30 minutes or so if the result is still in the balance.
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Benteke declared himself fit to play, but Wilmots didn't. He trained with the group on Sunday and Monday so that's a good sign. He'll be fit for this weekend I reckon.
It does sound promising, but persoanlly I'd ere on the aide of caution and have him on the bench. Give him 30 minutes or so if the result is still in the balance.
the concern might be whether the game would be in the balance if he isn't playing from the start.
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the concern might be whether the game would be in the balance if he isn't playing from the start.
We've done quite well without him so far, so you have to have some confidence in the other players.
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From seeing his desperation to continue in the Norwich game and hearing that he declared himself fit to play for Belgium, it sounds like he will be desperate to start on Sunday. Lambert's quotes today have been about how he would know how he feels and that will dictate what he does. So it's probably a fair assumption that he will start. Let's just hope that he's ready - young players tend to take on too much too soon and only learn to be cautious with experience.
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I will be very surprised if benteke is not starting on Sunday.
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Think he needs to start on Sunday.
The Spurs back 4 could feasibly mark Gabby and Weimann out of the game (Kozak should be taken out for now) but Benteke in there is a whole different proposition.
I'd modifiy the tactics a little, tell Weimann to play deeper and drop into the midfield when necessary, not sure where to put Gabby as he won't outpace Kyle Walker that much.
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He should be on the bench, coming on when we're already 3-0 up.
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I can not see us leading by more than a single goal come 60th minute if he is on the bench so to avoid that he should start and than come off on the hour as we should be 3 goals clear!
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Interesting piece here from Matt Kendrick where Lambert gives his views on the Spurs link to Benteke:
Paul Lambert has confirmed Tottenham’s summer interest in Christian Benteke for the first time and revealed how the transfer saga unsettled the Villa striker.
Lambert admits tomorrow’s opponents did enquire about signing Benteke in the close season but stopped short of lodging a bid for claret and blues’ talisman.
Benteke handed in a transfer request during Spurs’ unsuccessful pursuit before Lambert persuaded last season’s top scorer to sign a bumper new four-year contract.
Lambert joked that he bolted the doors of Bodymoor Heath and enlisted the help of former heavyweight boxer Mike Tyson to convince Benteke to remain at the club.
The 22-year-old Belgian has carried on this season where he left off last term and had scored five league and cup goals before getting injured a month ago.
Having been excused international duty in the past week, recovering Benteke could make his Villa return against Andre Villas-Boas men at Villa Park tomorrow.
Asked about the events of the summer, Lambert said: “I was on holiday. I was not bothered. I knew what was happening, I was never really bothered because I knew he was never going to go anywhere.
“I didn’t worry about it. I knew myself what was going on, so I was not going to get caught up in something that was never going to transpire.
“Are you talking about when Spurs came in for him?”
Lambert admits the constant rumours must have affected Benteke even though the manager himself was confident of persuading the former Genk goal-getter to stay at Villa.
“Nearly every team alive were meant to be coming in for him,” said Lambert.
“Some teams you don’t bother with. Unless I hear it from someone’s mouth that’s totally different, but you can read speculation all you want.
“It won’t really faze me until I hear it from somebody else. It never really prayed on my mind what was going to happen.
“I think there were a lot things going on and he’s probably getting it from all directions your head starts to go. what’s happening here. He was asked a lot of questions.
“I’m pretty sure it was the speculation that got to him. Speculation whether it’s wrong or right, if people have seen it in black and white in front of them they think ‘Oh, it must be true.”
“But you hear the crowd again, they are brilliant with him.
“I said to him: ‘you keep doing what you’re doing and you’ll be fine.’
“I think it was out of character. He has a good family behind him and he’s not that type of guy at all. He’s a nice, really humble guy and if he keeps working hard we can see where his career ends up.”
Lambert reckons it was a straight-forward process getting Benteke to commit his future to Villa until 2017 as soon as he spent time with the player at the training ground in late July.
“It took me a day - then it was finished,” he added. “How? I bolted the door! I had Mike Tyson in one corner and Benteke in the other!
“He’s a really good guy and I never had a problem. I never said anything that will shock you, I just had a chat with him to try and see where he was.
“With the transfer thing, he’s 22-years-old, which is still really young in football terms, but he was good about it.”
The bit in bold - I couldn't have summed up Spurs better, myself.
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Spurs trying get Benteke on the cheap as per usual. Cockernee cocks
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Hopefully he will show them tomorrow what they could have had if they stumped up the £40 million ;)
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Hopefully he will show them tomorrow what they could have had if they stumped up the £40 million ;)
Forty, fifty, sixty million...there was no chance Benteke was being sold.
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Glad Lambert wasn't worried, this place was going nuts. If he could have taken that day to sort things out a little earlier, it would have saved us all a lot of bother (that doesn't mean I begrudge PL his holiday).
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Anyway I expect him to start tomorrow.
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says he wasn't worried, bet he was shitting his pants really
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says he wasn't worried, bet he was shitting his pants really
Many of fans were based on every new tweet or rumour from any old bollocks start up website. I can believe Lambert wasn't because he actually had the facts and importantly the backing of his board.
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says he wasn't worried, bet he was shitting his pants really
Many of fans were based on every new tweet or rumour from any old bollocks start up website. I can believe Lambert wasn't because he actually had the facts and importantly the backing of his board.
Yes it all turned out fine and dandy
And because of that Lambert can be as bullish as he wants, doesn't mean to say he actually didn't have moments of concern
The fact is Benteke put in a transfer request, he wanted out at some point,
It didn't happen and we are all glad of that, but most on here including me thought he was gone, Lambert was on holiday at the time, my guess is he probably felt the same way until he returned and had his chat
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Thing is John it's a business to them. They don't have our emotional attachment to players. I don't entirely dismiss him him not being concerned, but I doubt he was shitting his pants is the point I was making.
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Thing is John it's a business to them. They don't have our emotional attachment to players. I don't entirely dismiss him him not being concerned, but I doubt he was shitting his pants is the point I was making.
The shitting his pants bit was just a turn of phrase,
But it was more than twitter and Internet rumour as Benteke put n a proper request,
I don't think any less of him for that, I have always admired his openness and honesty about his intentions, he's different to most other footballers in that respect that hide behind agents etc,
Lets hope he gives us some more joy this afternoon
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I think what Lambert was saying is that it was easy for a young kid to be misled and given how quick it was all resolved once they spoke in person he might be right. Remember when the news broke of a new deal almost all of us had given up any hope of him staying. Benteke only had at the one dope mate/agent of his at the time giving him advice, who had him bluff called and ended up looking a twat.
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I think what Lambert was saying is that it was easy for a young kid to be misled and given how quick it was all resolved once they spoke in person he might be right. Remember when the news broke of a new deal almost all of us had given up any hope of him staying. Benteke only had at the one dope mate/agent of his at the time giving him advice, who had him bluff called and ended up looking a twat.
I don't think benteke is a naive kid considering the way he left genk , he was offered a huge increase in wages by villa and there were no bids for him that we considered so he did the best thing for his career which was to stay at villa on hugely increased terms - everyone is happy .
Maybe when he put in his request he thought villa may ask about £20m for him and there would be a queue of clubs after him - in the end the club played a blinder.
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Actually his actions suggest he was completely naive. I don't think he's stupid and I think he was involved in what went on but he was still naive to take advice from an agent who has hardly made a name for himself in the game with current or past clients. In fact without Benteke he'd has nothing at all.
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Actually his actions suggest he was completely naive. I don't think he's stupid and I think he was involved in what went on but he was still naive to take advice from an agent who has hardly made a name for himself in the game with current or past clients. In fact without Benteke he'd has nothing at all.
I think he thought there would be clubs in for him and probably was shocked that villa put such a high valuation on him - was all rather tacky and fortunately the club didnt roll over and let him go on the cheap.
He may well have been aware of interest from other clubs because it does go on but our valuation probably killed that off.
All is forgiven now though and we move on with him, I certainly don't see him seeing his contract out but we will no doubt get a huge fee when he does eventually go .
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The most impressive bit is the new 4 year deal. It pits us in jus as strong a position next summer after he was won the Golden Boot in Brazil.
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The most impressive bit is the new 4 year deal. It pits us in jus as strong a position next summer after he was won the Golden Boot in Brazil.
Indeed, a good World Cup and he will have far better and bigger clubs than spurs chasing him.
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Still out.
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or maybe not!