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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on November 03, 2012, 10:15:48 AM
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Available Saturday afternoon.
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VILLA: Guzan, Lowton, Bennett, Vlaar, Clark, Westwood, Bannan, Ireland, Weimann, Agbonlahor, Benteke.
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Very much like the look of our team today - nice to Westwood start , I feel very optimistic having seen the line up.
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Reports that Bent hasn't travelled to Sunderland on TalkSport
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Reports that Bent hasn't travelled to Sunderland on TalkSport
Foot injury .
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Bench please anyone?
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I really like the look of that side, with the exception of Bent not being in it(but he's injured). Good to see how Westwood gets on. I'm guessing it'll play the a 4-3-3 with Benteke as spearhead and Gabby and Weimann either side. I much prefer that to 4-4-2.
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Quite pleased with that line up. Seems pretty attacking,need to get a good early start,put pressure on them,and hopefully get their crowd moaning. UTV
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Reports that Bent hasn't travelled to Sunderland on TalkSport
Foot injury .
Phew.Thanks
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Subs: Given, Albrighton, Holman, Delph, Stevens. Lichaj, Bowery.
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Foot injury? Or he refused to go back to the SoL and sit on the bench? It could be a geniuine injury but the way things are going with Bent at the moment I would be surprised if he wasn't to be sold in January.
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I am pretty sure Bent is a gonna, just the feeling I have.
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Ooh I like the sound of this! Benteke as the focal point up front, with Weimann and Agbonlahor moving around him. Also, that is a midfield designed to keep the ball, though the lack of KEA is a worry and it's a lot of responsibility on Westwood in his first start, especially without Holman's work ethic there as well.
Well, we'll either win brilliantly or be steamrollered with this. May as well risk it at this stage I suppose.
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Subs: Given, Albrighton, Holman, Delph, Stevens, Lichaj, Bowery.
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Well, he's done what everyone wanted. Clark, Bannan, Ireland, Weimann. Hope it works.
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Not much quality on the bench , but the first 11 look very interesting , I really get the feeling this will be a good afternoon to be a villa fan.
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Well, he's done what everyone wanted. Clark, Bannan, Ireland, Weimann. Hope it works.
I know right, it's terrifying. Under MON and Eck we knew they'd never change it around enough to do what we wanted. Lambert has, so if it doesn't work we can't really complain. Which is a scary thought.
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An awful lot of chopping and changing again. How is consistency meant to be achieved? Makes you wonder why he picked Albrighton, Delph and Holman last week, when it should have been Weimann, Bannan and Ireland.
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Well, he's done what everyone wanted. Clark, Bannan, Ireland, Weimann. Hope it works.
I know right, it's terrifying. Under MON and Eck we knew they'd never change it around enough to do what we wanted. Lambert has, so if it doesn't work we can't really complain.
I'm sure we can find a way.
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Reports that Bent hasn't travelled to Sunderland on TalkSport
Foot injury .
Was that due to foot in mouth?
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Now come on Villa please win, I don't care how just win.
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Very very attacking team. Well done Lambert and good luck Villa boys.
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Well, he's done what everyone wanted. Clark, Bannan, Ireland, Weimann. Hope it works.
I know right, it's terrifying. Under MON and Eck we knew they'd never change it around enough to do what we wanted. Lambert has, so if it doesn't work we can't really complain. Which is a scary thought.
Now be brave Villa fans. This man is flying without a parachute!
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The lightweight nature of our midfield is a bit of a worry.
A brave team selection by PL.
Come on you lions.
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Well, he's done what everyone wanted. Clark, Bannan, Ireland, Weimann. Hope it works.
I know right, it's terrifying. Under MON and Eck we knew they'd never change it around enough to do what we wanted. Lambert has, so if it doesn't work we can't really complain. Which is a scary thought.
Now be brave Villa fans. This man is flying without a parachute!
I can't criticise this selection - I think he has got it bang on .
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An awful lot of chopping and changing again. How is consistency meant to be achieved? Makes you wonder why he picked Albrighton, Delph and Holman last week, when it should have been Weimann, Bannan and Ireland.
After our major complaint for 6 seasons has been the inability to rotate players I'm not suprised to have seen a comment like this, just amazed it's taken this many games. Clear case of not being able to please all the people all the time.
Nice to see a midfield designed to keep the ball, the right decision against a mon side for me.
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Come on the Villa.
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Well it's an attacking team. Come on the Villa!!
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Right I'm going to open a can and watch the game and look forward to the post match thread - enjoy the match folks.
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stop moaning about Bent the baby and support the lads who give a shit!
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You can imagine MON's thoughts as he reads the team sheet.
Lowton; never heard of him
Vlaar; that's a strange name
Bennett; must be one of the kids coming through
Westwood; nope, no idea
Benteke; must be a mis-print surely
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Bardsley, Cuellar and Gardner in their team. Glad they ain't in ours. Now don't go scoring, you 3.
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Come on Villa.
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I wonder if it's something to do with what he knows about MON. We all remember how we used to (fuck it, still do) struggle against supposedly weaker sides who kept the ball better in the face of our physical, counter-attacking approach. Maybe that's why he's gone with such a ball-playing midfield.
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You can imagine MON's thoughts as he reads the team sheet.
Lowton; never heard of him
Vlaar; that's a strange name
Bennett; must be one of the kids coming through
Westwood; nope, no idea
Benteke; must be a mis-print surely
Haha, brilliant.
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I wonder if it's something to do with what he knows about MON. We all remember how we used to (fuck it, still do) struggle against supposedly weaker sides who kept the ball better in the face of our physical, counter-attacking approach. Maybe that's why he's gone with such a ball-playing midfield.
That's my thoughts on it, keep the ball in midfield and have 'wide forwards' to drag their wide midfielders backwards.
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Come on Villa, let's twat these feckers!
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Amen, let us indeed twat them.
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Bannan and Westwood? Oh dear
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Bannan and Westwood? Oh dear
Why? The one thing you can set your watch by is that a MON team will give you the ball and play on the counter. If we have players that can keep the ball then we will have a good chance.
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Bannan and Westwood? Oh dear
Not sure you can be in a position to judge Westwood yet, and Bannan can't be worse than our midfield last week.
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Bannan and Westwood? Oh dear
Why? The one thing you can set your watch by is that a MON team will give you the ball and play on the counter. If we have players that can keep the ball then we will have a good chance.
I can see the midfield getting totally overrun. Even at Sunderland.
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Bannan and Westwood? Oh dear
Not sure you can be in a position to judge Westwood yet, and Bannan can't be worse than our midfield last week.
Though he's hardly torn up many trees, we have looked better this season with Bannan rather than Delph in the side, in my view.
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I'm apprehensive. I'm not sure what basis there is for believing we're miraculously going to stop giving the ball away and with very few in that line-up looking capable of getting it back it could be a long afternoon.
On the other hand, if we deal with their set pieces and crosses well enough Sunderland could play all year and not score. So who knows maybe we'll nick it 1-0 with a Weimann screamer from 0.5 yards.
I just hope football is the winner.*
* which of course means not the mealy-mouthed self-interested tracksuit-tucking in tosser.
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An awful lot of chopping and changing again. How is consistency meant to be achieved? Makes you wonder why he picked Albrighton, Delph and Holman last week, when it should have been Weimann, Bannan and Ireland.
Did you not stop to think that maybe he doesn't know his best team yet, hence the changes for most matches? Makes sense to everyone to do that.
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You can imagine MON's thoughts as he reads the team sheet.
Lowton; never heard of him
Vlaar; that's a strange name
Bennett; must be one of the kids coming through
Westwood; nope, no idea
Benteke; must be a mis-print surely
You forgot "Guzan? Who the fuck is that?"
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Midfielder at RB ,RB at LB and LB on Bench..class MON
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Bardsley, Cuellar and Gardner in their team. Glad they ain't in ours. Now don't go scoring, you 3.
You know they will now you've mentioned it!
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a joint is most certainly needed before watching Villa these days
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You can imagine MON's thoughts as he reads the team sheet.
Lowton; never heard of him
Vlaar; that's a strange name
Bennett; must be one of the kids coming through
Westwood; nope, no idea
Benteke; must be a mis-print surely
You forgot "Guzan? Who the fuck is that?"
The goalie he picked throughout cup runs?
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N'Zog injured too?
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You can imagine MON's thoughts as he reads the team sheet.
Lowton; never heard of him
Vlaar; that's a strange name
Bennett; must be one of the kids coming through
Westwood; nope, no idea
Benteke; must be a mis-print surely
You forgot "Guzan? Who the fuck is that?"
The goalie he picked throughout cup runs?
but dropped for the final...i hope he has a blinder today, Brad
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Barry Horne co-commentating.
He doesn't like us very much.
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You can imagine MON's thoughts as he reads the team sheet.
Lowton; never heard of him
Vlaar; that's a strange name
Bennett; must be one of the kids coming through
Westwood; nope, no idea
Benteke; must be a mis-print surely
You forgot "Guzan? Who the fuck is that?"
The goalie he picked throughout cup runs?
but dropped for the final...i hope he has a blinder today, Brad
I am aware of that, but I was pointing out he played a number of games for us.
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I like the look of this line up in the circumstances. Fletcher offside
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You can imagine MON's thoughts as he reads the team sheet.
Lowton; never heard of him
Vlaar; that's a strange name
Bennett; must be one of the kids coming through
Westwood; nope, no idea
Benteke; must be a mis-print surely
You forgot "Guzan? Who the fuck is that?"
The goalie he picked throughout cup runs?
but dropped for the final...i hope he has a blinder today, Brad
I am aware of that, but I was pointing out he played a number of games for us.
No worries, mate.
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Great finish from Fletcher. I think we are going to have problems today.
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glad to see Ireland and Bannan given a game as Delph and Albie have been awful.
with KEA out , I think he has had to start with westwood but we will get a good look at him.
yes its a big lightweight in middle but hopefully the skill and pace will win us a game.
come on Villa. Im off to work ;(
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Defence has to be very careful we were nearly caught there.
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Is it just me or do Sunderland now play in orange?
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Fuck off commentators.
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Bit of a reducer from Bardsley there.
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morning all.
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Fuck off commentators.
Indeed.
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Bennet down, he's looked quite lively so far.
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Bennett off, Lichaj on by the looks of it.
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Playing quite well last 5 mins. Looks like Bennett is coming off.
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Lichaj coming on for Bennett.
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I do hope Lichaj is doing Movember
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We need to stop smacking it long down the flanks.
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My stream is miles behind all this.
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Sods law for us, we apply a few minutes of pressure and get a player injured and the momentum is lost.
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Westwood looks decent to me so far.
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Encouraging start....
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I hate those slow lofted corners. Whip it in son.
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Fucking Bardsley, Bennett off injured.
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The one thing I do like with Bannan is that he is always, always looking to support the man on the ball and give him an outlet.
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Fucking Bardsley, Bennett off injured.
And the winner for slowest stream is Paul.
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Benteke is a good pivot, but we need the other players to be closer to him for it to work. Not a bad start though from us.
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Midfield movement is much better.
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Bennett didn't look happy going down the tunnel.
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Not sure Bardsley did anything wrong. Bennett chucked his shirt to the floor going down the tunnel.
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Just started the stream.
How we playing guys?
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Just like Barcelona for about 15 seconds there...
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Nice move then until Bannan lofted it yet again. Nice to us back to passing again.
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Vlaars looked solid
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Westwoos certainly seems confident, always showing for the ball and playing some simple balls. Promising enough.
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Good move that. Vlaar does well to tidy up at the back, then starts a move which wins a corner. Good stuff.
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We're looking pretty good at the moment.
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Whisper it quietly but I think we aren't playing too bad.
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I've been depressed all season so far, bar Swansea, Newcastle and Man Shitty..... but I'm fucking BANG up for it today.
Normally when a team are desperate for a goal/victory they get it against the Villa but not today.
Fucking come on Villa.
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Decent chance for Gabby, building up a bit of pressure on them now.
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How many corners have we had already and not even close.
Last time we looked dangerous from a corner was 2008.
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Afternoon all, how are we doing?
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We are playing well and it's because the midfield is passing and moving.
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I forgot how MON sets his teams up to counter-attack at home.
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I reckon someone gave Lichaj one of those joke meagaphones that has black ink around the mouthpiece.
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Was that a useless throw from Guzan or lack of effort from Ireland? Either way, we shouldn't be giving the ball straight back to them like that.
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We've looked the better team so far Stu, Sunderland looking dangerous on the break. Bennets gone off inured to be replaced by Lichaj after 10mins
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Anyone who says Ireland shouldn't be in the side is nuts.
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We are playing well and it's because the midfield is passing and moving.
I think it's because I'm not watching at the moment. If it helps then I may not watch at all!
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Come on Villa! Playing very good so far. Need a goal now.
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There is only one side trying to play football by the sounds of it.
Got to make the most of this though.
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We actually are looking quite decent here, getting forward well but no killer pass as yet. I think this is where Ireland is supposed to come in handy....
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Don't want to tempt fate, but we're looking much better, almost like a different team to last week.
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My stream has Spanish commentary. I love the way our team sounds on this commentary. Even Barry Bannan sounds exotic!
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Benteke and Gabby look a good partnership....Benteke is beasting it up front so far....good skills and power.
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I hear we have a functional and relatively effective midfield - is this really Aston Villa?
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We've looked the better team so far Stu, Sunderland looking dangerous on the break. Bennets gone off inured to be replaced by Lichaj after 10mins
Cheers. I suppose that is to be expected of this Sunderland team. They don't create much though, so lets hope we can get a goal soon.
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What is it with these floated corners, whip it in pace FFS!!
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It's only after you've had a break from it that you realise what shit football Pube Head has his clubs playing.
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I swear we give away more stupid free kicks than any other team in the league.
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I hate it when we're the better side but haven't scored. You just get that feeling.
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Stephen Fletcher must use the same birth registrar as Obafemi Martins.
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bannan ireland and westwood are all showing for each other, so the man on the ball has options, makes the game simple.
Benteke is bossing their defense as well.
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How many corners have we had already and not even close.
Last time we looked dangerous from a corner was 2008.
I could be wrong but I think we scored from a corner this season.
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We've had so many corners. Surely, Sunderland must score soon.
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How many corners have we had already and not even close.
Last time we looked dangerous from a corner was 2008.
I could be wrong but I think we scored from a corner this season.
Albion.
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Sunderland go down easily, tbh.
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Stephen Ireland doing a passable impersonation of Paul Scholes with that tackle.
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Larsson doing what he used to at the Blues, buying a free kick.
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We really need to score when we're on top. Not a big fan of these floaty corners.
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Just seen our bench. Urgh.
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I hate it when we're the better side but haven't scored. You just get that feeling.
I have that feeling. It sits in the pit of my stomach.
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Bannan's corners are atrocious.
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My stream has Spanish commentary. I love the way our team sounds on this commentary. Even Barry Bannan sounds exotic!
Same, wieman sounds like a Geordie saying Way ey man
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Playing much better than previous games, we just need to get a clear chance.
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Sunderland on top just now
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Come on Christian...get a goal!! Show Darren how it's done!
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Fuck me Ireland pass it
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That is absolutley shit from Ireland.
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This looks a bit more like the Villa I saw last week.
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This is like a proper british game of football, tackles flying in everywhere and the ref letting it go....love it!!!!
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It was poor from Ireland, but the runs weren't great off theball either.
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Sunderland trying to walk it into the net
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Just seen our bench. Urgh.
Most clubs won't have the most impressive bench when they have 7 out injured.
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Great block tackle from Lowton?
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Bent-Eke thump as they say oop north..BentEkee..come on mate!
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This could go either way. Neither team knows how to play.
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That feeling in my tummy is getting worse.
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Come on, Villa, we can do these. Need a goal.
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We look decent going forward, I fill my shreddies every time they attack though.
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Just seen our bench. Urgh.
Most clubs won't have the most impressive bench when they have 7 out injured.
Yeah I'm aware of who's injured.
But looking at today's bench, right now, versus Sunderland; Urgh.
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I'm pretty sure the commentator said before kick off that O'Neill had used his column in the programme to address the issue of the money he had to spend at Villa. Be interesting to have a read of that.
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Fucking Bardsley.
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Bardsley booked. Sessegnon looks knackered
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Are we glowing in the dark or in claret & blue today??
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Are we glowing in the dark or in claret & blue today??
Glowing
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Are we glowing in the dark or in claret & blue today??
Glowing like Madame Curie
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Ireland looks totally disinterested and ineffectual.
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Are we glowing in the dark or in claret & blue today??
Glowing.
I believe we have the best and worst 2 kits in the prem.
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Ireland really needs to stop dwelling on the ball.
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Ireland is having an absolute nightmare, and looks half-arsed while he's at it.
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Ireland looks like he has had a couple of double vodkas in his drinks bottle!
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Westwood has done alright considering it's his first start at this level.
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Don't worry folks.
Soon Ireland will put through a killer pass for Benteke to score.
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Bardsley booked. Sessegnon looks knackered
Phil was unlucky. Gabby "went down easy" to say the least
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Ahhh unlucky from Ireland and Benteke...nice move if they pulled it off
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Poor touch Benteke. Smash it with your left!
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Benteke is having a good game.
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CB should have had a swing at that one first time
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Unlucky Bentekes first touch let him down
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Feel if Weimann can get in the box he will score
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Bannan's having a really good game.
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Don't worry folks.
Soon Ireland will put through a killer pass for Benteke to score.
Hmmm.....
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Passing has been poor so far. Ireland ropey. Bannan and Westwood decent on patches
Lichaj looks a risk against johnson. He dives in too much
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Are we glowing in the dark or in claret & blue today??
Glowing.
I believe we have the best and worst 2 kits in the prem.
Agreed, the glow in the dark one just isn't villa
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Bardsley booked. Sessegnon looks knackered
Phil was unlucky. Gabby "went down easy" to say the least
And was lucky he got the ball in the Bennett one as it was a shocking tackle. Ref was looking to book him after that for anything.
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Good play by Weimann.
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Good shot, Weimann! Very well played!
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good play Weimann. He's quick isn't he?
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Good turn and shoot from Andreas.
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Unlucky Andreas....if you dont shoot you dont score
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I like the look of Westwood.
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Westwood and Bannan are doing great.
Good challenge from Ireland that.
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Shit on me....Ireland like a tackle doesnt he
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I like the look of Westwood.
Same here, very impressive first showing. He and Bannan seem to work well, too.
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Yeah the big dog looks good
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Massive waste Lowton...
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Are we glowing in the dark or in claret & blue today??
Glowing.
I believe we have the best and worst 2 kits in the prem.
It's not Villa at all, but I quite like it. Mind you I've only seen it on the box, need to see it in real life lol
Agreed, the glow in the dark one just isn't villa
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If this is the best league in the world I dread to think what some of the others are like
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I think we look pretty dangerous today, getting the ball quick and not just passing it side to side for fannys sake.
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A gambling centre midfield player getting into the box would get goals from Benteke
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Really good tracking back there by Weimann, too, which we've lacked a bit of in the last few games.
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Yes Ozz we need to get the players closer together further up the field then we'll be alright. Think we defend quite deep because of our lack of pace at the back though
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These two teams look well matched, and the game is fairly open and enjoyable because of that. We really need to stop being wasteful whenever we get near their box.
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And Bannan the same there, as well.
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A gambling centre midfield player getting into the box would get goals from Benteke
We do seem slow in getting the MF up in support.
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A gambling centre midfield player getting into the box would get goals from Benteke
Ian Taylor?
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Westwood has been outstanding so far
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I like the look of Westwood a lot, and he's directing the midfield well.
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That's the worst shot I've ever seen.
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Ha ha Larrson. You're shit.
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Larsson with his best Emile impression
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Larsson showing his 50p shaped foot.
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Westwood, bannan and benteke the pick so far. I think they look poor, but more dangerous in the final third.
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A gambling centre midfield player getting into the box would get goals from Benteke
I think that's meant to be Ireland.
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That shot almost defied physics in going behind where he was standing.
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Another stupid freekick as we head into injury time.
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How on earth is that a free kick?
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Good afternoon everyone, how have we played first half?
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I hope we hear some boos at HT. MON loves that.
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A gambling centre midfield player getting into the box would get goals from Benteke
I think that's meant to be Ireland.
He's too busy with the lunging tackles
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And another one. So stupid for Ireland to play that pass.
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The Sunderland fans and players look a combination of bored/pissed off. Quite glad this games at their place, think it puts more pressure on them. Lichaj booked.
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Stupid booking there.
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C'mon Villa, theres 3 points here if you want it...Sunderland look very Villa from 2008
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Daft from Lichaj.
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Normally a fan of Ireland, but he's losing the ball too often with poor passes.
Lichaj should never have been booked for that, he didn't kick it away at all. :\
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Lichaj seems a little....excitable, doesn't he?
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Well, it's been boring, but we've looked better than them. Just need to start gambling in the final third.
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Decent first half, shame no end product. Benteke, Bannan and Westwood have been very good.
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Lichaj is a massive worry at left back he really is. However I like the midfield and Sunderland are there for the taking we really need to win this.
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So does that drop us down the half time league?
I'm starting to really dislike Lichaj. He's a fucking idiot, it's like having Warnock back and kicking the ball away when he's as rash as he is will I feel be costly. Get rid in January.
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Can't shake the feeling that they'll score from a terrible, mediocre attack.
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I see the Blues are losing at home.
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Shots on target managed by Sunderland at home to, how can I put it, not the best Villa side i've ever seen, a grand total of zero. I don't miss the Pube Headed Judas one bit.
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Ireland's got all the ability but no brains, very little bottle and no urgency. It's so frustrating watching him play.
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2 teams low on confidence playing out a dour draw so far. Benteke is the pick form our lot along with Westwood both of whom are having decent games. We really do need to pick up a draw at least today.
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Well, that's better than we've been for a little while, and in 45 minutes Westwood and Bannan have shown that they should be strong favourites to be in the starting midfield each week. Benteke has been very good again, a real handful up front and winning most headers for us to follow up.
I think I am just about done with Ireland. I've been patient and acknowledged the obvious ability he has, or at least had, but he just isn;t delivering anything for us. His passing is wayward, his tackling is dogy and his workrate is hit-and-miss. An irritating player.
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Hard hlaf to sum up for me.
For the first 20 minutes I thought we looked pretty good, but without looking like scoring. After that they came into it more and had a few half chances they thankfully failed to take. We also started leaving some pretty big gaps in midfield and down the right which a better team would exploit for sure
A bit more composure (especially from Ireland, who's been VERY slack with the ball) and a bit more urgency when we have the ball in their half and maybe we can nick a goal
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Lichaj wants to calm down. He is getting too close to them and giving away unnecessary free kicks and now has got booked. They will play on him next half and try and get him a second yellow.
I cannot make my mind up about Ireland, he just seems a few inches away from making the interception and his passes frequently just fail to reach their target. If I had a suspicious mind I might wonder if it is intentional?
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A familiar pattern is emerging in this match. We know we very, very rarely keep a clean sheet, but we don't really look like scoring. Of the two sides, Martin O'Neill's Sunderland look more likely to score, and I'm afraid that's what I think will happen.
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Irelands been a bit casual in his passing, although he's made up for that with some sold tackling. Otherwise the midfields looked a lot better, not sure if we need someone to have the responsibility to get forward though. If it's Ireland he needs to push a bit further on, we've not really given their keeper anything to do.
When they come at us I think they will score every time, but overall I feel this is ours if we go for it.
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Ireland's got all the ability but no brains, very little bottle and no urgency. It's so frustrating watching him play.
Agreed. The only tackles he's attempted have been ones where he's gone flying in pretty recklessly. Definitely the weak link in the midfield on that evidence.
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Playing ok and livley going forward but without looking too dangerous. Westwood looks better than he did at Southampton. I like Lichaj as a player but he really is as bad as if not worse than Warnock for giving away needless free kicks in dangerous positions. Two for pointless nudges in the back when the player was going nowhere.
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On the plus side, I think Lowton is fantastic. The Sheffield fans who said he couldn't step up are proven wrong. He looks every bit the Premiership full back.
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How come MON has got the initials SW on his tracksuit rather than...erm... MON? I'll start - Stupid Wanker
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people seem to be omitting the fact that irelands clipped through ball in a 1-2 with benteke gave us our best opportunity to score.
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people seem to be omitting the fact that irelands clipped through ball in a 1-2 with benteke gave us our best opportunity to score.
Indeed. I think this midfield three has worked well.
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Ireland is a strange one. I'm far from his biggest fan and he seems to give the ball away a fair bit and yet most of our better displays come when he's playing.
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How come MON has got the initials SW on his tracksuit rather than...erm... MON? I'll start - Stupid Wanker
Stubborn and Wasteful?
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On the plus side, I think Lowton is fantastic. The Sheffield fans who said he couldn't step up are proven wrong. He looks every bit the Premiership full back.
Yep, I like Lowton. Looks determined, composed and skilful. And he'll only get better. Westwood has been impressive too. I must say it's refreshing to watch a team basically made up of youngsters and newcomers, shorn of the likes of Dunne, Collins, Heskey et al. Shame about Ireland though.
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How come MON has got the initials SW on his tracksuit rather than...erm... MON? I'll start - Stupid Wanker
Stubborn and Wasteful?
We have a winner.
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I'd be tempted to put Holman on for Ireland. Think that may swing things our way.
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Lets just hope we can play for 90 mins today and no 45.
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I'd be tempted to put Holman on for Ireland. Think that may swing things our way.
Good call.
Ireland is starting to piss me off.
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Ireland is a frustrating player, he had the skills but doesn't apply them.
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I'd be tempted to put Holman on for Ireland. Think that may swing things our way.
Good call.
Ireland is starting to piss me off.
Agreed. Holman presses better and gets into better positions off the ball.
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Holman's engine would help Bannan & Westy too, so it'd be a bonus.
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Ireland 15 pass attempts, 12 successful. Why does it always seem more are misplaced when you're watching?
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people seem to be omitting the fact that irelands clipped through ball in a 1-2 with benteke gave us our best opportunity to score.
I'm not omitting that at all. As I and others have said, his ability to do such things is undoubted. It's his ability to do them often or effectively that's in question. To take an easy shot, compare him with Hoolihan's performance against us last weekend.
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Holman for Ireland must be a temptation. I think Ireland has been poor
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Ireland 15 pass attempts, 12 successful. Why does it always seem more are misplaced when you're watching?
Well, that shuts me up!
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Wow. We've not scored a second half league goal away from home since January. That's incredible!!
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The ones he misplaced coulda been key, it's just a bit frustrating.
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Ireland 15 pass attempts, 12 successful. Why does it always seem more are misplaced when you're watching?
Well, that shuts me up!
I was surprised as well when they just showed the stats of him and Larsson.
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Ireland 15 pass attempts, 12 successful. Why does it always seem more are misplaced when you're watching?
It's not that so much as the fact that someone with such ability has so little influence on games.
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Ireland 15 pass attempts, 12 successful. Why does it always seem more are misplaced when you're watching?
Well, that shuts me up!
Well he's not been giving the ball away, but he's not been giving them many problems either, and his tackling looks a worry.
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I think it's the promising situations he's been when he's given it away that have frustrated particularly today.
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Holman for Ireland must be a temptation. I think Ireland has been poor
Ireland's far more likely to come up with a killer pass than Holman though. Holman will just mean playing for a 0-0.
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Ireland 15 pass attempts, 12 successful. Why does it always seem more are misplaced when you're watching?
It's not that so much as the fact that someone with such ability has so little influence on games.
It is misleading. He gets dispossessed a lot more than he gives it away, usually in threatening positions that have you shaking your head.
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Benteke, Lowton, Westwood have all been good though.
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I think with Ireland it's partly the lack of quality around him. There was a time in the first half where gabby should have made a decisive run and just did neither one option nor t'other
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we really do have to win this.
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Lichaj is going to get sent off here.
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I think with Ireland it's partly the lack of quality around him. There was a time in the first half where gabby should have made a decisive run and just did neither one option nor t'other
That's true, but nstead of doing the smart thing and keeping posession, Ireland just sort of....gave up and let them take the ball off him.
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It's still about the wings for MON isn't it.
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The problem is, Ireland is in the position we need someone to really provide the assists/ goals in this formation. As such, if he is not on it we struggle to create.
Replacing him would be close to the top of my wishlist. Not quite on top, but close.
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I hope we don't start sitting back and inviting them on to us.
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I now expect to concede fairly soon.
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Lichaj is going to get sent off here.
Thought that when he was booked for erm... not kicking the ball away!
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Blimey this is scrappy
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Need to weather this for 15 minutes. MON teams tire on 65...
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Fucking hell we haven't come out of the dressing room here.
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How often, under MON, did we see terrible first halves and then in the second we came out firing thanks to 15 minutes of his man management?
Now we're seeing it happen against us.
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Need to weather this for 15 minutes. MON teams tire on 65...
It's funny, 'cos it's true.
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How many times have we done well first half and come out like Lambert has told us to get down the pub for the first 20 of the second half!
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we need to get on the ball and take the sting out of this.
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What's everyone's favourite cheese?
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Need to weather this for 15 minutes. MON teams tire on 65...
It still rankles with me that I was obliged to agree with John Terry for once.
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL
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Get in!!!!!!
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YES! GABBY YOU BEAUT. Hope yr okay.
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Gaabbbbbbbyyyyyy!!!!!!!
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GOALLLLL
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GET IN GABBBBBBYYYYYYY
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Bloody hell, Gabby gets one in the league.
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Get in. Get the fuck in.
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Got away with that then. We seem incapable of relieving the pressure when we are under attack
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get in!!!!!
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GAbby.... GET IN
Brilliant from Westwood in build up.
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Gabby you beauty!!! And cracking work from Benteke again!
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Benteke to Gabby.
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Lowton needs to stay back at training til midnight and work on his crossing
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Get IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN. Fantastic football for the goal.
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Get in.
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Gabby likes Bonfire weekend.
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Get in!!!!
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Fookin have that O'Neill! Get in yoooooo beauty!
Benteke's played out of his skin in the last two or three games.
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Lowton needs to stay back at training til midnight and work on his crossing
I guess that cross straight to the target man to head down for a goal was shit?
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I told you somebody was going to concede.
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Actually, that's a really lovely goal, you know; Westwood anice pass to Lowton, a really good cross from him, perfect knockdown from Benteke and brilliant poaching from Gabby.
Class.
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we need a second, they'll crumble then.
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I look forward to seeing the goal in about 10 minutes
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Yes!!! Nice patient move that. But still needed a big man in the box to cross to. Bannan and Westwood doing really well
Still think we probably need two
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Benteke is a beast. It's great to see him playing like this after the stick some folks were giving him.
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Well that is a bonus.
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Gabby carrying a knock. Sub to shore up midfield and stick Andi up top with Benteke?
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Good from Ireland and Benteke there.
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Jeez how far behind is my, um, Teletext.
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At least Richard Dunne won't gift them an own goal this season.
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Gabby's first in 29 league games.
Since last November. Fucking hell. :|
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I look forward to seeing the goal in about 10 minutes
Yeah my stream was well behind. Just refreshed and it skipped forward 5 minutes. Missed the goal.
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Benteke is a beast. It's great to see him playing like this after the stick some folks were giving him.
He won't be here long, but the profit will be massive.
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Martin what's the score? Martin, Martin what's the score?
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Is it just me or should Cuellar not have got a card for that challenge of Gabby as he scored....two feet off the ground + studs first?
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The Legend Returns!!!
;-)
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Great goal. I know he has missed some sitters but I think Benteke is superb. Westwood has really impressed me today too.
Credit to PL his summer signings look like great business.
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Benteke's looking great today, he deserves a goal.
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If we can hold on that creates a good gap in the league.
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this is much better.
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If anyone dounbted Benteke then they need to watch this game....its alomost Drogbaesque!!
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We're on top here need a second.
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How is that a corner!?
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Agree with all the plaudits for Benteke he's been great.
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great move for the goal, really intelligent from westwood. Gabby showed some real balls to finish despite it being clear he was going to take a kicking for it.
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What we need to do is keep the ball as much as possible now. Thankfully, for the first time in ages, our midfield looks capable of doing that.
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Great handling from Benteke then
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WTF was that Barry ?
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Gardner moaning in the refs ear as usual. Gobby little cock.
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Benteke couldn't have moved his hand at that fucking distance. :\
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Is it just me or should Cuellar not have got a card for that challenge of Gabby as he scored....two feet off the ground + studs first?
Nasty gash on Gabby's leg as a result.
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Gah. We're winning and I can't watch it! Why the fecking hell are matches not screened/streamed in France.
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Great handling from Benteke then
More of a Pen than the one against Arsenal earlier
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it has to be deliberate handball to be a penalty, so there.
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Almost worse watching when you're winning isn't it?!Need a 2nd
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How many fouls does lichaj for away??!
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If Bannans passing ability was as good as he thinks it is he\d be some player
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Fucks sake Bannan. Terrible.
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That's the first thing Bannan's done wrong all afternoon. Surely, surely, that's him starting ahead of Delph from now on?
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Is that where Saha has ended up?
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Christ that could have been a pen.
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Still can't see us keeping a clean sheet.
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Gardner you shit bastard!
Brilliant defending by, erm, Bannan!
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something tells me they'll get a penalty.
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Well played Bannan. Oosh.
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Well going by the fact Sunderland have only had 12 shots on target all season and none this game...3pts in the bag! ;)
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McLean and Saha for Gardner and Sessegnon. We should get a sub on to tighten up right wing.
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That's the first thing Bannan's done wrong all afternoon. Surely, surely, that's him starting ahead of Delph from now on?
You'd hope so. A very good footballer versus someone who to me looks like George Weah's other "cousin".
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saha, journeyman.
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Surely Bardsleys got to go there?
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Fletcher has not been touched then. Very harsh yellow.
Ireland for Holman now surely.
Bardsley gotta go!!!???!!!
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Lovely clearance from Brad.
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That's got to be a second yellow for Beardsley?!
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Bardsley is lucky to be on the pitch. Could easily have had 2 yellows.
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Clark that is up there with one of the most stupid yellow cards I've seen. Idiotic.
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Bardsley lucky not to get another card there.
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Who's the co-commentator on the ..........erm, as someone said earlier..... Teletext ?
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That's the first thing Bannan's done wrong all afternoon. Surely, surely, that's him starting ahead of Delph from now on?
You'd hope so. A very good footballer versus someone who to me looks like George Weah's other "cousin".
Bannan is actually better in every regard - tracking back, passing, positioning, you name it and wee Barry is better at it than Delph.
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I'm having to watch a Spanish stream now as all the others have packed up. Means I have no idea what's going on when i'm typing here.
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Clark yellow, followed by Bardsley not was woeful officiating.
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Getting into squeaky bum time! I might struggle to watch this
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I'm having to watch a Spanish stream now as all the others have packed up. Means I have no idea what's going on when i'm typing here.
50/50 the windows?
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Stevens for Lichaj.
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Sunderland are shit to be fair.
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Big time to make a debut....
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Lichaj done his groin?
Left back is a voodoo role for Villa at the moment!!
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Subbing the sub. Not a vote of confidence.
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And that's about the first time Westwood has made a poor pass, too. He's done well. And is also better than Delph.
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What a run of injuries to defenders.
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Subbing the sub. Not a vote of confidence.
Eric's injured
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Saha should have scored then
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Guzan lucky there. Really need to stop giving set pieces away!
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Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio
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Now Enda having treatment.... it's the Enda the road for left backs at Villa!
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Enda's taken a knock already
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I just dont get it why black people want to dye their hair ginger!?
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Fucking hell Guzan you have to get there if you're going to come.
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I'm having to watch a Spanish stream now as all the others have packed up. Means I have no idea what's going on when i'm typing here.
Me too. I'm particularly enoying the commentators referring to Lichaj as "Lee-Chath".
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Is full back for the Villa like being the drummer for Spinal Tap?
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That was a let off.
Is anyone using the iOS app for this site, if so, have you worked out how to refresh without having to scroll to the top of the page?
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Is full back for the Villa like being the drummer for Spinal Tap?
Brilliant :D
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Shoulda scored. Damn.
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Weimann has to score there
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Ballcocks....should of been 2
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Great move then. Well played Weimann, unlucky.
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Really should have scored there.
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Should have buried that
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Fantastic move that. Weimann should have made the keeper work harder
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What would make my weekend is if we could manage to play through to the end of the match without camping in our own area waiting for the inevitable.
And Weimann should have finished that.
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Great move, lovely Lowton, but should have scored there,
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should have been two nil there.
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Needed to do better there. Much too soft a finish.
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Great move unlucky
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I just dont get it why black people want to dye their hair ginger!?
(http://www.dumb.com/m_pictures/7f1f7cf5fb5c34df6d6a0ffab44b10d4.jpg)
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Weimann should have scored, well done Ireland.
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Holman or Delph for Ireland please Lambert.... need legs.
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Guzan lucky there. Really need to stop giving set pieces away!
We need to stop inviting pressure.
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Jesus they are all over the place at the moment
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I just dont get it why black people want to dye their hair ginger!?
(http://www.dumb.com/m_pictures/7f1f7cf5fb5c34df6d6a0ffab44b10d4.jpg)
Serena looking a picture there.
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Again we should have scored there.
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how many more chances?
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Take a touch Ireland!!!
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Ireland probably shoulda buried that.
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Gabby hit the post
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Weimann looks on his bloody knees. Blowing hard!
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Weimann looks knackered, get a sub on Paul and keep it fresh.
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We should have finished this.
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Actually, Weimann looks knackered there, so I think I'd bring Holman for him at this point.
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When we inevitably concede a late equaliser, which of the number of good chances will we bemoan missing the most?
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What a ball from Ireland to Benteke.
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You just know what is going to happen...
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This ref is a prick.
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Yup. Weimann has run his socks off.
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I think Holman should be on. Maybe for Weimann, he's looking pretty tired.
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I bloody hate refs who think every foul is a booking!
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silly booking for Benteke there.
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What a ball from Ireland to Benteke.
Yeah, after all my bitching earlier on, I have to say he's been much better in the second half.
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Holman on for Weimann ffs.
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When we inevitably concede a late equaliser, which of the number of good chances will we bemoan missing the most?
Honestly, Ireland's. It's an open goal. Take a touch if you're not set right, if you are - at this level - you bury it.
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we've looked really good since the goal
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Encouraging performance today, why the hell has Westwood been held back?
Still should have had a second
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Perfectly weighted ball from Ireland to Benteke there. He's really improved in second half.
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we need a 2nd just to kill them off.
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Why can we never have a nice, comfortable lest 10 minutes!
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silly booking for Benteke there.
this
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Is anyone else starting to get stressed?
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Weimann for Holman ffs Lambert, the bloke can't run!
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Can really fat people feel massages?
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Blimey, I'd forgotten that Adam Johnson was still on the pitch
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When we inevitably concede a late equaliser, which of the number of good chances will we bemoan missing the most?
Honestly, Ireland's. It's an open goal. Take a touch if you're not set right, if you are - at this level - you bury it.
He had to hit it first time to take advantage of the open goal. However, he had the whole goal to aim at first time or not.
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Is anyone else starting to get stressed?
Increasingly.
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Yes Guzan. Thank fuck. Well played son.
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Is anyone else starting to get stressed?
My default setting is stressed
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Nnngggghhtdggrf
Anyone else feeling like that?
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Come on Villa, get a second and see this game off!
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Christ! Good save, that! Well done, Bradley!
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Brad Jr is hurt
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I missed this Ireland chance that everyone is talking about. Was it really that easy?
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Fucking brave Brad. Given would never have got to the second.
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come on lads hold it together, this could be priceless.
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Finally Holman on.
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Well played Andreas, good game son
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Nice haircut Brett
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Come on lads, hang on, celebrating my 25th wedding anniversary in Paris by hanging onto every word on here!!!
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I missed this Ireland chance that everyone is talking about. Was it really that easy?
No not at all, it came at him fast and the goal was empty, 25 yards out, and he snatched it, rather than taking a touch and hitting. Had more time than he thought.
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Weimann has played well. Ran his socks off and was unlucky not to get a goal.
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Great save. The site of Volders running down the touch line to celebrate an equaliser would be sickening.
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Aus for Ost
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come on lads,
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Is anyone else starting to get stressed?
I'm always stressed. In the last 10 minutes of Villa matches, I enter stroke territory.
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I missed this Ireland chance that everyone is talking about. Was it really that easy?
Not the easiest chance you'll ever see, but at first watching it looks like, yeah, he probably should have done a little bit better.
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Hold on Villa!!!!
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I missed this Ireland chance that everyone is talking about. Was it really that easy?
Not easy but he snatched at it, could've had a touch and passed it in.
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Heart beating out of my bloody chest.
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Cheers for the Ireland chance info.
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God this is horrible.
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Nice haircut Brett
I noticed that too.
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How is Johnson constantly open!
Holman needs to get the fuck on him.
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this is normal
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Little Brad has added a nought to his value this season, I reckon.
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Come on lads, hang on, celebrating my 25th wedding anniversary in Paris by hanging onto every word on here!!!
Bet the wife is pleased?
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We need to get possession.
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Ireland's been much better this half.
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this is torture!
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I don't know whether to torture myself and watch the last 5 minutes or go for a smoke and get the prayer mat out.
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How much longer...
Sweet Jayzus
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Ha Ha MON looks like he's about to cry
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Come on lads, hang on, celebrating my 25th wedding anniversary in Paris by hanging onto every word on here!!!
Bet the wife is pleased?
Asleep on the bed, she knows nothing comes before the villa.....!
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So, Westwood then. He looks a bit useful, doesn't he?
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I missed this Ireland chance that everyone is talking about. Was it really that easy?
Terrible back pass, their keeper picked it up at pace about 2 yards wide of his goal. Under pressure from Gabby flicked it up then sort of bicycle kicked it away (TM HDE) straight to Ireland just outside the middle of the box. Ireland volleyed it first time wide, gabby tried to flick it in but was obviously offside.
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Put foot on ball Villa.
Come on.
Come on.
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Little Brad has added a nought to his value this season, I reckon.
So as he cost us nothing he's now worth £00? :P
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Come on lads, hang on, celebrating my 25th wedding anniversary in Paris by hanging onto every word on here!!!
Bet the wife is pleased?
Asleep on the bed, she knows nothing comes before the villa.....!
I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere....... ;-)
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Villa in good voice, can't ytpe, too nerbous
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So, Westwood then. He looks a bit useful, doesn't he?
Absolutely, great debut.
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Poor pass Holman, need to hit the space now in the corners!
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We need to get possession.
(http://www.ftrc.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/the-exorcist.jpg)
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4 added minutes. My blood pressure's through the roof
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just keep the ball!
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4 minutes injury time, i'm not convinced i'm going to last that long.
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Fuck me, this is fucking horrible.
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3 minutes, come on Villa.
Come on Villa, come on Villa.....
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4 minutes injury time, i'm not convinced i'm going to last that long.
Are you convinced Villa will?
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At the moment, we're playing just like a MON team.
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Bloody hell, that was close
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Come on lads, hang on, celebrating my 25th wedding anniversary in Paris by hanging onto every word on here!!!
Bet the wife is pleased?
Asleep on the bed, she knows nothing comes before the villa.....!
I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere....... ;-)
It's more of an open goal than the one Ireland missed!
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Fuck off Pube Head
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The fucking corners villa
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Fucking hell thought Campbell had scored.
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Blimey this is too much
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my brain hurts!
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Finally Barry
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Benteke and Gabby are both knackered
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Well played Gabby, intelligent play.
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You'd have to say, we could stand to be a little more composed in these circumstances.
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Played Gabby. Did the right thing. Fuck off pube boy ****** knob
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Played Gabby
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Well played Gabby, intelligent play.
Nice to hear that comment ;-)
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Not a handball, it hit Ciaran in the nuts
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Get back in Villa FFS
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YYYYYEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS 3 Points
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I can't take this, how much longer??!!!
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Yessssssssssss, have that you spiteful Pube Headed Judas dwarf.
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YYEEEESSSSSS!!!!! Take that, O'Neill you bastard!!
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Result!
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thank fuck for that :-)
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Those Boo's are very very sweet. Well played lads!
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FUCKING GET IN VILLA!!!
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How shit must you be........ etc etc
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YYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEESSSSS
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Get in!
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I can now wake the wife up....!!
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BBBOOOOOOOOO HAHAHA. ******.
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Brilliant! look how much that means to them. Again, Brilliant.
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Well played Gabby, intelligent play.
absolutely
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Thank God for that.
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Home team booed off at The Stadium of Light...
Made my weekend!
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"Sunderland fans furious"
This Villa fan is very happy
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Have that Pubey you horrible fucker. A much needed 3 points.
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I can now wake the wife up....!!
*sniggers*
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Shove that one up your specs O'Neill you bitch.
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Yes! Get in there!
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YESSSSSSSSSS!!!
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Amazing how 3pts can make your Saturday night. ;D
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Come on lads, hang on, celebrating my 25th wedding anniversary in Paris by hanging onto every word on here!!!
Bet the wife is pleased?
Asleep on the bed, she knows nothing comes before the villa.....!
I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere....... ;-)
It's more of an open goal than the one Ireland missed!
I bet she's lying there pretending to be asleep and hoping we hang on - she probably can tell the difference if we get a good result!!
UPDATE
Looks like she's in for a good night then....
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ah well still time for Christian to get another, another time, and show DB how it's really done! Come on da Villa!!!
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What goes around comes around O'Neill you scheming tosser.
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Home team booed off at The Stadium of Light...
Made my weekend!
me too, well done the Villa