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Title: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 14, 2012, 06:30:23 PM
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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on September 15, 2012, 11:26:50 AM
why 89 views at 11 am .  ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 15, 2012, 04:52:31 PM
Brilliant win. Great to see the big man off the mark
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: PhilGibson on September 15, 2012, 04:52:58 PM
Villa Park is rocking again... Great stuff.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 15, 2012, 04:53:10 PM
Great we battered them in the second half, brilliant to see Benteke score very well as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Yossarian on September 15, 2012, 04:53:16 PM
So this is what three points feels like? I'd forgotten what it was like to win
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on September 15, 2012, 04:53:41 PM
We have our villa back
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on September 15, 2012, 04:54:16 PM
See Lambert there urging the fans to cheer their new goal-scorer
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on September 15, 2012, 04:54:54 PM
13 shots on target. Can't have done that too often over the last couple of years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on September 15, 2012, 04:54:55 PM
Fan-bloody-tastic.  When was the last time we were 1-0 up, still having a go at the other team, then scoring another?  Wasn't worried for a single second in the second half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on September 15, 2012, 04:55:08 PM
That was really good fun. So nice to see that much confidence, verve, positivity and chances!

Still need to improve in some areas, but I'll take plenty more performances like at up lease, Win, llose or draw
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Summers on September 15, 2012, 04:55:39 PM
Fantastic win! I was worried they might peg us back but then Benteke struck. Every single player was brilliant (apart from N'Zogbia who just doesn't look good enough). Lambert is the fucking man. Set us up brilliantly, has us playing brilliantly and working hard. Couldn't be happier.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on September 15, 2012, 04:55:58 PM
13 shots on target. Can't have done that too often over the last couple of years.

If we had a total of 13 shots on target at Villa Park for the whole of last season, I'd be surprised!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 15, 2012, 04:56:09 PM
I love Concrete Ron as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: themossman on September 15, 2012, 04:56:16 PM
I'd forgotten watch its like to watch a non dysfunctional team winning a game of football. They played well in attacking and defending phases, took a good goal, defended it professionally, capitalised on the opposition getting more and more exposed with a second, closed it out without losing their heads in the last 10 minutes. Ordinary stuff but so rare at vp for so long. Great result.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on September 15, 2012, 04:56:29 PM
Fantastic win! I was worried they might peg us back but then Benteke struck. Every single player was brilliant (apart from N'Zogbia who just doesn't look good enough). Lambert is the fucking man. Set us up brilliantly, has us playing brilliantly and working hard. Couldn't be happier.

Well said Summers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rodders on September 15, 2012, 04:56:44 PM
I feel really bloody good after watching that! So many positives about our play today. PL & the boys, I salute you.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 15, 2012, 04:56:46 PM
Also I think Bent's goals will come, he's looking a lot more match fit and his movement is getting back to its best.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Yossarian on September 15, 2012, 04:57:04 PM
I love Concrete Ron as well.

Loved his bit of skills at the end
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on September 15, 2012, 04:57:27 PM
We won and sounds like a great performance.   Great stuff.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Yossarian on September 15, 2012, 04:57:32 PM
Also I think Bent's goals will come, he's looking a lot more match fit and his movement is getting back to its best.

Once he scores the flood gates will open
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on September 15, 2012, 04:57:59 PM
Also I think Bent's goals will come, he's looking a lot more match fit and his movement is getting back to its best.
I thought he did well today from what I saw. Did brilliantly to set up the chance for Benteke's sitter.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on September 15, 2012, 04:58:00 PM
By Christ, we actually look like a team. When was the last time we could say that?

We hassled and harried and didn't sit back. Played with courage. Stopped them from playing. And it paid off. Very encouraging. And most encouraging of all is the fact that - at long last - we have a proper manager again.

More of the same, please.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: citizenDJ on September 15, 2012, 04:58:24 PM
Wow! We were really, really good! Thoroughly deserved the win, and the second goal, and the new players look like they're really going to fit the bill. Only twenty minutes and that, but Benteke looks like he might be just what we need. Very interesting to see how he (along with Westwood, Lowton and Bennett) develop over the season.

And that's two games of watching the Villa where we have been a proper, good-to-watch team. Very promising stuff indeed from Lambert.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 15, 2012, 04:58:35 PM
Great stuff.  A deserved 2-0.

There are a lot of likeable characters in that team/squad.  The players look like they’re actually pleased to be playing for Villa.
Vlaar, Guzan and Holman just seem to have that selflessness that is crucial for any team, especially one as young as ours.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: ExclDawg on September 15, 2012, 04:58:39 PM
Garbage performance ... should of won by 7 against this Championship League team.  Bentake was a crap signing too ... only one goal in 20 minutes? Rubbish.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: dean saunders left boot on September 15, 2012, 04:58:45 PM
Great to watch, excellent passing, movement, fighting for the ball, so proud at how we played today. Great to see Benteke get his first goal on his debut, Vlaar put in a captain's performance, Guzan made some great saves. In Lambert we trust. UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on September 15, 2012, 04:59:28 PM
say it very quitely but i think we might just have a team
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: phantom limb on September 15, 2012, 05:00:45 PM
Blimey! An entertaining game and excellent play from us at times, non-stop pressing throughout and we look like a team. Concrete Ron's foundations must have set, he was an absolute beast.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: citizenDJ on September 15, 2012, 05:00:46 PM
And it's very tricky to pick a man of the match out of that lot, but seeing as it was his first turn as Captain, I'll give it to Vlaar who I thought was composed, confident and, well, concrete from start to finish.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: django on September 15, 2012, 05:00:59 PM
Fantastic performance from back to front.

Guzan, two great saves in the first half and confident on crosses, good handling.

Full backs, solid at the back, good going forward, great strike from Lowton, he certainly doesn't lack confidence.

Clark and Vlaar looked totally in control. Vlaar looks a really good player on this evidence.

Midfield worked really really hard, particular mention for Holman, he is absolutely tireless, looks a decent player.

The strikers, things didn't quite fall right but I thought they all played well. Over the moon for Benteke, that will do him the world of good, particularly after that miss.

Men of the match, Guzan, Vlaar, Holman, Lowton.

I think we have got ourselves a really good manager.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: asgpaul on September 15, 2012, 05:01:48 PM
Totally in control in the second half, it looked like every player was hungry for the ball.  Defended well.  Delighted with performance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 15, 2012, 05:01:53 PM
I love Concrete Ron as well.

Loved his bit of skills at the end

Having a few terrace heroes will help no end.  Get the fans going and make Villa Park a happy place to play again.
Concrete Ron has got hero written all over him someone mentioned on the match thread that Guzan is quickly developing a Bossie like following.

Good stuff.  Enjoy it everyone.  It will not always be this pleasurable.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: ez on September 15, 2012, 05:02:00 PM
Villa are back... villa are back... waho
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Summers on September 15, 2012, 05:02:11 PM
Bent worked hard today. I think he only had one shot.. but he set up a few chances. In fact he could/should have had two more assists. Benteke's sitter and the chance he set up for Weimann. And it was his header on that set up Benteke's goal.

For a long time any & all criticism aimed at Bent was that all he does is score goals and while that's fantastic, he needs to do more and be involved more.. Well today he was. He ran the channels, got involved and made a few things happen.

I know we're all gushing like mad about Guzan - but I need to join in. He's brilliant. His shot stopping is as good as any in the league, but his dominance of his box is something we haven't seen in years. He's claiming any and every ball played near him. It makes the life of our defenders so much easier. He's off his line quick, claiming crosses, corners, through balls. Fantastic. Long may he be our number one.

Vlaar is exactly what we needed too. So glad to see him given the armband. He's not just a rock, but he's also a great footballer. Some of his touches and skills (and his runs) are better than most defenders can dream of.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on September 15, 2012, 05:03:03 PM
And it's very tricky to pick a man of the match out of that lot, but seeing as it was his first turn as Captain, I'll give it to Vlaar who I thought was composed, confident and, well, concrete from start to finish.

I only saw the second half, but on that display I'd give it to Bannan.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Yossarian on September 15, 2012, 05:03:07 PM
I wasn't sure whether Holman would be a bench warmer after the new signings but he looks to have earnt the right to stay in the first eleven after today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on September 15, 2012, 05:04:08 PM
Up to 11th as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on September 15, 2012, 05:04:18 PM
Excellent from Vlaar, Lowton and Bannan, all three have a great shout at motm.

Benteke put in a really good 20 odd mins as well, scored, missed a sitter, had a couple of other half chances and played a lovely lay-off for KEA to have a shot.

Guzan is really enjoying getting a run of games on merit isn't he.

Rest of the team all did the job they were there for, except nzog, who again let himself down badly with terrible decision making.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on September 15, 2012, 05:05:31 PM


I know we're all gushing like mad about Guzan - but I need to join in. He's brilliant. His shot stopping is as good as any in the league, but his dominance of his box is something we haven't seen in years. He's claiming any and every ball played near him. It makes the life of our defenders so much easier. He's off his line quick, claiming crosses, corners, through balls. Fantastic. Long may he be our number one.



Agreed, another brilliant performance.  To think we let him walk away.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Summers on September 15, 2012, 05:06:36 PM
I have so much to gush about I can't stop posting. Holman was great. He isn't a flair player like N'Zogbia is SUPPOSED to be, but he's easily the hardest worker in our side. He gives no one time to think, he closes down, then keeps running, then runs some more, then he might run some more. He's settling and showing he can pass, dribble and get shots off too. Teams need players like Holman. It really helps stifle teams play when someone like Holman is in their face constantly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: citizenDJ on September 15, 2012, 05:06:57 PM


I know we're all gushing like mad about Guzan - but I need to join in. He's brilliant. His shot stopping is as good as any in the league, but his dominance of his box is something we haven't seen in years. He's claiming any and every ball played near him. It makes the life of our defenders so much easier. He's off his line quick, claiming crosses, corners, through balls. Fantastic. Long may he be our number one.



Agreed, another brilliant performance.  To think we let him walk away.

He also has an "OOOOOUUUUUUTTTTT" to rival Friedel, too!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 15, 2012, 05:07:54 PM
Oh and I'll praise Ireland as well, didn't quite work creatively but he worked incredibly hard.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: rooboy316 on September 15, 2012, 05:09:06 PM
That was just great to watch.  Amongst the myriad of positives, particularly noteworthy amongst the new signings:
Vlaar - it will take some time to make a judgement about his defensive capabilities, but his attitude is just what we need.  Justified in getting the armband, and the bollocking he gave Dyer for his dive in the box was brilliant.
Holman - while his touch/technical ability can let him down at times, the sheer amount of work he does really does lift the entire team unit.  I think the rest of the team followed his example today and really worked hard closing them down and putting pressure on them when we didn't have possession.  Lambert certainly seemed to appreciate the effort when he came off.
Benteke - only a glimpse, but what a beast.  Seems to have the touch and the movement to make the most of his physical dominance.

Westwood was quiet when he came on - I hardly noticed him.  Looking forward to seeing more of him in the coming weeks though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on September 15, 2012, 05:10:09 PM
:-) that is all
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 15, 2012, 05:10:12 PM
Disagree on Vlaar I think his defensive abilities are clearly very good.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Summers on September 15, 2012, 05:11:33 PM
Westwood was quiet when he came on - I hardly noticed him. 

Expect more of that, I imagine. He likened himself to Carrick and most of the time you don't really notice Carrick's involvement. He gets the ball, plays if off smartly then moves to receive it again. Keeps the ball and play moving and ticking over. I
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 15, 2012, 05:12:00 PM
Oh and I'll praise Ireland as well, didn't quite work creatively but he worked incredibly hard.

They all worked hard.  Despite the bad early results the culture of the club seems a lot better now.
There’s a togetherness as every player appears to be busting their balls for their team mates.  Holman and Ireland personify this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Summers on September 15, 2012, 05:12:11 PM
Disagree on Vlaar I think his defensive abilities are clearly very good.

He's a rock. A fast moving rock, too. That can jump really high.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on September 15, 2012, 05:13:52 PM
Oh and I'll praise Ireland as well, didn't quite work creatively but he worked incredibly hard.

True. I don't think there was a single player who didn't work hard today. This is what's going to see us through, graft. Swansea didn't know how to deal with this persistent, in-your-face, hassling Villa side. And neither will quite a few others if we can keep it up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brian Taylor on September 15, 2012, 05:14:35 PM
Top 4 watch out!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: ktvillan on September 15, 2012, 05:15:34 PM
Lots of positives but for me the best was that extreme rarity for Villa of being 1-0 up with 10-15 minutes left and not resorting to deep defence, panic, hoofing and inviting pressure.  We kept on playing our football which is why we got the much deserved second goal.  The passing game is still a bit raw at times but it was enough to out-Swansea Swansea, and it should get better with more practice. Well done Lambert and the players.   Also great to see we now have four decent options up front and plenty of options off the bench.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: HK Villan on September 15, 2012, 05:19:47 PM
It feels wierd to feel good about having watched Villa.... but I WILL GET USED TO IT!   ;-)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: HK Villan on September 15, 2012, 05:22:24 PM
Pat Murphy just said it all on Five Live.  Villa Park is rocking again!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: NeilH on September 15, 2012, 05:23:28 PM
I feel great about that result. All positives for me. Lambert seems to be shaping a team here, a team that believes in his and wants to play for him. All good stuff.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on September 15, 2012, 05:24:07 PM
Pat Murphy just said it all on Five Live.  Villa Park is rocking again!

You know it's good when even Murphy can be complimentary about us

Set me up nicely for my trip to Southampton next week, what with them getting an absolute pasting as well!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: *shellac* on September 15, 2012, 05:25:42 PM
A well deserved win.  I can't wait for the next game.

PL is the man!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 15, 2012, 05:25:43 PM
Disagree on Vlaar I think his defensive abilities are clearly very good.

He's a rock. A fast moving rock, too. That can jump really high.

Has muscles instead of arms. Danny Graham will have a sore back tonight too.

Also, in a funny way I'm looking forward to seeing how Dunne reacts and whether they can play together. Great to think we have Baker and Dunne as cover.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on September 15, 2012, 05:27:31 PM
With all the stacks of cash we have pissed up the wall over the years, you give a man with a brain a pittance of money and within 3 months he turns this club around.

God Bless you Paul Lambert.  :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 15, 2012, 05:30:21 PM
With all the stacks of cash we have pissed up the wall over the years, you give a man with a brain a pittance of money and within 3 months he turns this club around.

God Bless you Paul Lambert.  :)

I'm not sure he's had a pittance, but he has done very well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on September 15, 2012, 05:31:54 PM
Swansea defence shit themselves when Benteke come up to them pushing them out the way like ants for the corners !!!! Holman is the new Milner .....Nzogbia will go in the Jan window after being on the bench for a while ...... And all this with Gabby to come !!!! Happiest i have been for ages. Paul Lambert i love youuuuuuuuuuu ............
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on September 15, 2012, 05:31:59 PM
Fully deserved and long overdue victory. Great pressing without the ball and we should have wrapped it up a lot earlier in the second half.
Positives - the trio of Vlaar (my MOTM), Clark and Guzan. Good debut from Benteke and good to get off the mark in the first game. Bannan improved after the break and was more patient on the ball.

Negatives - didnt think our full backs defended well in the second half. Hernandez exploited Lowton a good bit. Ireland and Holman worked very hard but gave the ball away a lot. Bent was very poor though and Gabby might well be pushing for a start up with Benteke the next day.

Luke Moore to be fair caused us problems when he came on and had a great chance to equalise late on. But 3 points thankfully and a clean sheet to boot.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on September 15, 2012, 05:33:57 PM
With all the stacks of cash we have pissed up the wall over the years, you give a man with a brain a pittance of money and within 3 months he turns this club around.

God Bless you Paul Lambert.  :)

I'm not sure he's had a pittance, but he has done very well.

I'm comparing to what the common new manager gets in the summer transfer window to spend. Certainly not wisely springs to mind with some of them
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Kingthing on September 15, 2012, 05:34:08 PM
First time I'm going to watch MOTD since we beat Chelsea 3-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on September 15, 2012, 05:34:39 PM
Brilliant display, Holman and Weimann didn't stop running and emphasised Bent and Ireland's lack of workrate today. But I think it was just a bad day in the office and Benteke is going to make a massive difference. He is like a John Carew in his prime.

Guzan solid and looking like a top keeper.

It's so nice to leave Villa park in a good mood again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on September 15, 2012, 05:41:06 PM
I still remember Carlton Cole on debut was outstanding, so don't want to over cook Benteke, but he looks like just what we need, and potentially a real star in this league. Big hard buggers with skill prosper in the premier league, so he could be a master stroke.

Delighted for Lowton to get a goal and Vlaar and Clark looked good.

Guzan makes a huge difference to our back line though, simply through presence. Given will struggle to get back in baring an injury.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on September 15, 2012, 05:41:48 PM
I thought we were pretty good in the first half, and absolutely excellent in the second Swansea really struggled to cope with our pressing, which we managed to sustain for the whole game. I also really like the option of having some combination of gabby, benteke, Weimann, nzogbia to come on for the last 25 minutes when the game is opened up a bit. Snakes us look dangerous.

Stand out players for me were guzan, vlaar, lowton, lichaj, bannan (second half) and holman.plus benteke when he came on.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: avfcpg on September 15, 2012, 05:43:22 PM
Breat of fresh air...hope we can now push on and get better and better and better and shut some of the "experts" up...

Good day for me with Hants winning (sorry lads)...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 15, 2012, 05:44:57 PM
Aston Villa striker Andreas Weimann on Twitter: "Great win! Buzzing! Boys were unbelievable today!"
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: john in oz on September 15, 2012, 05:52:36 PM
watched on tele here   wish i was there...everyone did their job,includiding n'zogbia,stop picking and enjoy it
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on September 15, 2012, 06:00:00 PM
My first game at VP this season,so first chance to see most of the new boys. Rode our luck a little in first half. Guzan was brilliant,that second save in the first half was pure class.

Impressed with the new boys,sometimes Holmans decision making isn't too good,but his closing down and effort can't be questioned. Lowton was impressive,loves to get forward,El Ahmadi was really good,keeps thing ticking over.

Second half we got a lot closer to them,and we played some good stuff,thought their guy handled it on the line. Benteke looks a bruser,everything stuck to him,deserved his goal,missed a sitter and Bent took a header of his head.

Plenty of promise and lots to build on.UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: caster troy on September 15, 2012, 06:00:46 PM
Great day. All of a sudden we've got potential 'cult heroes' springing up all over the shop! Guzan reminds me of Bosnich, great reflexes but also a calm authority in the penalty area. Concrete Ron is composed, strong and reads the game extremely well. Brett Holman's commitment is outstanding, never stops running and breaks up play brilliantly. Finally Benteke caused them huge problems at the end, he looks like he can move for a big guy, showed some classy touches and certainly wasn't short of confidence for a 21 year old making his debut.

Sure it's a long season ahead and we shouldn't get carried away, but Lambert has really injected some life into the team with these players, and the ones we already had are looking better as a result. I'm really optimistic and hopefully we'll see the stay away fans come flocking back now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 15, 2012, 06:01:42 PM
I don't think we particularly rode our luck as such, they had a couple of chances but we dominated overall and particularly in the second half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: mrfuse on September 15, 2012, 06:03:01 PM
Guzan didn't put a foot wrong, Holman worked his socks off and Benteke looks quality. Id say currently Bent's place is more under threat than Weimann's.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Tony on September 15, 2012, 06:03:24 PM
I thought we started slowly and were giving them too much space but once we started pressing them we got well on top.

Holman has an amazing amount of energy and that seemed to lift the rest of the team, Bent did a lot of work outside the box and worked his socks off.

I loved the run up the wing from Vlaar, not sure the manager will love it so much but it was good to see something different from a centre half.

Bentenke took his goal well and scared the life out of Swansea's defence.

Swansea had their chances too and kept plugging away even when 2-0 down, which was why it was such an entertaining game, Swansea weren't shy about getting forward.

Good result and great peformance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: mrfuse on September 15, 2012, 06:10:34 PM
Bent did a lot of work outside the box and worked his socks off.

Must have been watching a different game ...Bent worked his socks off? I don't think that can ever be said about Bent
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on September 15, 2012, 06:14:30 PM
I can't remember the last time I came away from Villa Park feeling so good.  Villa playing high tempo passing, attacking football.  All the team working hard for each other. Two good goals. Clean sheet. A manager who knows what he's doing both tactically and in the transfer market. Cracking atmosphere.  Some potential new terrace heroes.  I know we'll have ups and downs but on this evidence Paul Lambert is bringing the feelgood factor back to Villa at last
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on September 15, 2012, 06:14:59 PM
Great performance in a great match with great atmosphere. Although there were a few mistakes made in the early stages I thought there was not one bad player in the Villa side. The great thing is that you know there is plenty more to come from them as well.

I hope Robbie Savage is on Match of the Day!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: richardhubbard on September 15, 2012, 06:17:43 PM
Not enjoyed a match like that  for years, there is great potential there. The kids looked like men and we look like a team.
Lambert one hell of a manager turning this around so quickly
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on September 15, 2012, 06:18:23 PM
Brilliant. 1-11 - everyone played well. That's got to be one of our best performances since before the Carling Cup final?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Yossarian on September 15, 2012, 06:22:57 PM
Great performance in a great match with great atmosphere. Although there were a few mistakes made in the early stages I thought there was not one bad player in the Villa side. The great thing is that you know there is plenty more to come from them as well.

I hope Robbie Savage is on Match of the Day!

Quote from:  proof that the stupid have too loud a voice
Aston Villa have had a good win today, but they haven't beaten an Arsenal, a Manchester United or a Chelsea. I'm still not convinced, though I like Paul Lambert as a manager. I tipped them to go down and I stick by that, because of the players that they've got.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: mikeb1982 on September 15, 2012, 06:25:54 PM
Just got in and haven't read the thread so I'm sure I'm repeating, but the last two years can now be truly forgotten.

That was a brilliant win against a good team who played well. We passed them off the park, I had more faith in our defence than I have at any point in the last two years, we have goal threats all over the park, Guzan ruled his box and made some great saves, we chased everything down and worked hard for the team, even Bent put himself about and Bannan resisted the Hollywood pass.

I'm just so happy to leave VP with a big smile on my face. We have our Villa back!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: avfcpg on September 15, 2012, 06:26:48 PM
 Robbie Savage, BBC Radio 5 live

"Aston Villa have had a good win today, but they haven't beaten an Arsenal, a Manchester United or a Chelsea. I'm still not convinced, though I like Paul Lambert as a manager. I tipped them to go down and I stick by that, because of the players that they've got."


Ha ha..he really is a twat...don't have to beat Atsenal Man Utd and Chelsea to say up. Clearly on a massive wind up
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: levico on September 15, 2012, 06:27:57 PM
For the first time for ages I really enjoyed today's match. Even if Swansea had snatched an equaliser I would have still been well pleased with our team work rate and tactics.

We can now look forward with real optimism. Obviously we won't win every match but I'd put my last fiver on the fact that even when we lose no one will fault our commitment and work rate. Proud to be a Villain again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: levico on September 15, 2012, 06:30:35 PM
Oh, and Ron Vlarr - the new McGrath?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on September 15, 2012, 06:31:22 PM
The BBC must surely know that Savage is a clueless, barely articulate idiot. He's there purely to stir up a reaction. He's the pantomime baddie to go alongside Lawro's pantomime dame. If it was actually funny, I'd say the BBC's football coverage is a joke. But it's not.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: mikeb1982 on September 15, 2012, 06:32:13 PM
Robbie Savage fancies himself as rent a quote, he'll say what he needs to say to wind up some dick on 606. Doesn't mean he's not also a prick.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: mikeb1982 on September 15, 2012, 06:33:20 PM
Oh, and Ron Vlarr - the new McGrath?

His name even fits the song
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on September 15, 2012, 06:34:21 PM
Thing I loved today was that an atmosphere returned to VP and there was a buzz outside the ground as I headed out of the Holte to Aston Park, both things haven't happened in a long time
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: E I Adio on September 15, 2012, 06:35:05 PM
After a couple of seasons of dross, it was simply a joy to watch.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 15, 2012, 06:36:57 PM
Very good result and display against a decent team- the good times are returning!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: remy on September 15, 2012, 06:38:14 PM
Outstanding.

Took some convincing to get Remy Junior and Remy Junior II to come to the match with me but boy they're glad they did. It's like a clean sweep of the past shite we have been used to. The place was rocking and the Swans took all their allocation.

Holman and Guzan were magnificent, Given is now the backup. Concrete Ron - put it this way the Holte's chant for him was 'ooh ahh Ron de Vlaar'.

Lowton, chests the ball swivels and volleys a sumptuous shot into the net - poetry in motion.

Benteke, big, tall, powerful, held the ball up, shrugs off attention, glided past markers. Weimann put himself about reminded me of Dean Saunders with his non stop movement.

Some really terrific performances from the other players as well. I felt regarding Bent we aren't playing to his strengths or he needs to get up to speed.

Aston Villa - welcome back I've missed you. :'(
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on September 15, 2012, 06:39:30 PM
Excellent :)

I been to work, then football as I arrived at Villa Park at 2.52pm and is delighted with the view as it is almost half way and in middle of trinty road lower. The game was a joy to watch and the team is completely different Villa I am used to. I love the new striker Benteke as he is very powerful. I think he will be our Dider Drogba eventually :) If Agbonlahor need a role model to follow watch him carefully. Think we will have a very very dangerous front pair in Bent and Benteke (The commentators will have nightmares :) )

I like the new Spanish Midfielder No 9 for Swansea. He impressed me.

I think we need to find a new Ashley Young/James Milner for winger role. As Charles is not suitable.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on September 15, 2012, 06:40:49 PM
Really enjoyed the game and thought it was a great win.  Only real negatives were that we gave the ball away in midfield a bit too often and our crossing was not great, but those was far outwighed by the positives today.  Thoughts on the players:

Guzan - very good game and commanded his box really well.  Top class save in the first half.
Lowton - got forward well and looked composed on the ball.  Good goal.
Lichaj - solid performance and kept Dyer quiet.
Vlaar - another good game.  Couple of great runs forward to cap it off.
Clark - really solid performance.  As good as I have seen him at CB.
El Ahmadi - another energetic display.  Got his foot in well and was good in possession.
Bannan - guilty of giving the ball away early on but grew into the game.  Got in some good positions.
Holman - worked very hard, but gave the ball away quite a bit.  Did look to get involved though.
Ireland - not one of his better games and was guilty of losing possession, but put the work in. 
Bent - still looks a little way off being fully fit.  Looked better when Benteke came on.
Weimann - worked hard, but didn't have too much effect on the game.

Subs

Westwood - did OK when he came on and kept the ball moving well.
N'Zogbia - looked lively and got involved in his short time on the pitch.
Benteke - if a well known lager did debut substitute appearances ...

Just a quick note - was sitting in the lower North Stand and didn't see Gabby get up once to warm up.  All the other subs did, but he didn't.  Injury?

   
     
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 15, 2012, 06:41:16 PM
Wow. Just...WOW!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on September 15, 2012, 06:42:52 PM
Delightful to wake up to a win for a change a read lots of glowing accounts - look forward to watching it tonight.

The storm clouds are lifting.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave shelley on September 15, 2012, 06:49:30 PM
Ger Regan and Mel (Irish Villain) that should put a smile on your faces before the evenings festivities.  Enjoy Brum and safe home.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on September 15, 2012, 06:55:13 PM
We're there any tributes or mentions of Hillsborough at the game?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dr_Fegg on September 15, 2012, 06:59:00 PM
Blimey, well played Villa thoroughly deserved and it was great to see PL on the pitch at the end - he really looked pleased and that it actually meant something to him as well.

Couple of negatives but not for this stream.....

Saints and baggies next, kust what we need  ;D
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 15, 2012, 07:01:08 PM
Link to highlights (http://www.101greatgoals.com/goals/england/lowton-benteke-guide-aston-villa-to-2-0-win-over-swansea/)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 15, 2012, 07:02:03 PM
That was fun. Fun. Fun. Fun.

We didn't just get the result but we looked very good too. Plenty to work on still. Off the ball, fantastic and Holman makes me tired just watching him. But I thought KEA amd Ireland were a bit iffy in possession.

Clark is looking more assured as the games go by. Vlaar is a beast and we should have had more in the second half.

Some good options on the bench. The criticism of Charlie is unfair. He looked lively and linked in well at a time when we weren't committing too many forward.

Benteke looks a real handful. Everything stuck to him and huge doesn't begin to describe him.

Very good stuff.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on September 15, 2012, 07:03:43 PM
That was fun. Watched it on Villa Streams with my dad. It's not the best wifi connection in here at the weekend but we managed to get it up and running about 30 seconds before the first goal.

The improvement since Everton is phenomenal, it's going to be a good season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: pestria on September 15, 2012, 07:08:02 PM
Oh and I'll praise Ireland as well, didn't quite work creatively but he worked incredibly hard.

FFS he was abysmal.  Gave the ball away in key areas, didn't create a jot and had one limp effort of a shot.  Total waste of space and the one negative in an otherwise very positive day.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 15, 2012, 07:11:32 PM
Oh and I'll praise Ireland as well, didn't quite work creatively but he worked incredibly hard.

FFS he was abysmal.  Gave the ball away in key areas, didn't create a jot and had one limp effort of a shot.  Total waste of space and the one negative in an otherwise very positive day.

Nope.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: maidstonevillain on September 15, 2012, 07:13:46 PM
Pat Murphy just said it all on Five Live.  Villa Park is rocking again!


Set me up nicely for my trip to Southampton next week, what with them getting an absolute pasting as well!

The problem with the Southampton result is that it is an excuse to have 'arry in by next Sat.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 15, 2012, 07:14:12 PM
Just back from a very sunny, rocking Villa Park.
Funnies bit of the day was the expressions on the Swansea defenders faces when Benteke came on. You could tell they were thinking "what the F***"
Best day down the villa for years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: DrGonzo on September 15, 2012, 07:17:01 PM
Oh and I'll praise Ireland as well, didn't quite work creatively but he worked incredibly hard.

FFS he was abysmal.  Gave the ball away in key areas, didn't create a jot and had one limp effort of a shot.  Total waste of space and the one negative in an otherwise very positive day.
smile ffs
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: pestria on September 15, 2012, 07:17:45 PM
Oh and I'll praise Ireland as well, didn't quite work creatively but he worked incredibly hard.

FFS he was abysmal.  Gave the ball away in key areas, didn't create a jot and had one limp effort of a shot.  Total waste of space and the one negative in an otherwise very positive day.

Nope.

Yes
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on September 15, 2012, 07:18:39 PM
I'm having such a lovely day. Lots of ace things to do and just back from a noisy Villa Park with a Chinese take away and lotsa wine to see my relieved, long-suffering Villa 'widow'. Has anyone mentioned Lambo's touchline performance yet? Like MON meets Zebedee, but with actual tactical nous.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 15, 2012, 07:19:00 PM
Pestria it's clear you have an agenda with Ireland, if he was so poor why did he get an excellent reception when he came off?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on September 15, 2012, 07:21:23 PM
Ger Regan and Mel (Irish Villain) that should put a smile on your faces before the evenings festivities.  Enjoy Brum and safe home.

I wasn't over today Dave but I will definitely be booking a trip in the coming months. Well worth it if we keep playing like that. We have our villa back!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on September 15, 2012, 07:22:50 PM
Great anticipation from Benteke. Bent done a lot of tracking but came to life when Benteke came on. Used as an impact player or from the start ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 15, 2012, 07:23:15 PM
I think it's gervilla.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: pestria on September 15, 2012, 07:25:02 PM
Pestria it's clear you have an agenda with Ireland, if he was so poor why did he get an excellent reception when he came off?

No idea at all.  Perhaps you could enlighten me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 15, 2012, 07:27:36 PM
He put in a lot of effort, and no not everything came off today but he ran himself into the ground.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave shelley on September 15, 2012, 07:28:25 PM
Ger Regan and Mel (Irish Villain) that should put a smile on your faces before the evenings festivities.  Enjoy Brum and safe home.

I wasn't over today Dave but I will definitely be booking a trip in the coming months. Well worth it if we keep playing like that. We have our villa back!!

Sorry Mel, could have sworn it was you, age you see!  Leege I think you're right; so enjoy yourself Gervilla and safe home to you too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 15, 2012, 07:30:33 PM
I was a good to great performance and it’s doubly pleasing that two of our best performers had quiet games.
Imagine Ireland at his best and Bent when he’s getting in more threatening positions.

There’s a fair bit more to come from this squad.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 15, 2012, 07:32:05 PM
I think ours is the only game that doesn't feature on Sky Sports website front page.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: MarkM on September 15, 2012, 07:34:50 PM
Enjoyed it! First time in ages

Atmosphere was good, singing all round the ground
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave shelley on September 15, 2012, 07:35:59 PM
I think ours is the only game that doesn't feature on Sky Sports website front page.

Fuck 'em I don't give a shit.  We're on the move and the only people that matter is us.  We're aware and we care, they can kiss my big hairy arsehole for all I care.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 15, 2012, 07:37:33 PM
The atmosphere was really good today from both the Holte and lower north.
At this rate we'll have the Trinity singing soon !!



Maybe not ;-)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 15, 2012, 07:37:46 PM
It's been a long time since I walked away from VP  satisfied. This was more than a win. This was a statement of intent. Swansea started bossing us about in the first ten minutes just like they did last season through the entire match. However today was different. Holman stepped up and others followed and we stopped them playing and than gave them their own medicine back for the rest of the match. We missed lot of chances in the second half and I thought we may well regret that but we didn't.
There was one incident I noted in the 89th(?) minute that summed up the new attitude. Watching from high in the centre of Witton End I saw their left back trying to control a ball  near the corner flag  suddenly El Ahamadi appeared right in front of him to block his clearance and the ball went for a throw...and we were 2-0 up. Fantastic.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 15, 2012, 07:38:11 PM
He put in a lot of effort, and no not everything came off today but he ran himself into the ground.

He nearly always does and also completes a lot of defending by merely tracking back and getting behind the ball.
Sometimes this work rate goes unnoticed so I’m not sure he gets the recognition he deserves.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on September 15, 2012, 07:42:28 PM
Welcome back the Villa Park roar!
Even the Upper Trinity were singing.

We have waited a while for this haven't we, I just knew something special was going to happen when the two subs came on and the reception was so good for Benteke - we had a little bit of footbal fairytale at last with a debut goal.

Lowton struck his superbly.

The two goalkeepers made exceptional saves as well with the Guzan's in the first half giving a platform for the growing expectation of the crowd - when was the last time we cheered a goalie's name continually?

Thought we gave away some abysmal balls today but tackled back tigerishly (was if 4 yellows?) and hunted in packs to get it back - unfortunately that meant it broke to the Swansea midfield a lot.

Work in progress butgreat fun at last...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on September 15, 2012, 07:43:08 PM
The atmosphere was really good today from both the Holte and lower north.
At this rate we'll have the Trinity singing soon !!



Maybe not ;-)

A2 and 3 were singing!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on September 15, 2012, 07:47:05 PM
We're there any tributes or mentions of Hillsborough at the game?

No
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on September 15, 2012, 07:49:40 PM
We're there any tributes or mentions of Hillsborough at the game?

No

That's a pity, sounds as though most clubs played YNWA over the p.a. or supporters chanted for Justice.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: jembob on September 15, 2012, 08:08:45 PM
He put in a lot of effort, and no not everything came off today but he ran himself into the ground.
Ireland was swamped everytime he got the ball today. Swansea clearly did their homework and realised that Ireland makes us tick when we are passing the ball well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: simman on September 15, 2012, 08:11:41 PM
The atmosphere was really good today from both the Holte and lower north.
At this rate we'll have the Trinity singing soon !!



Maybe not ;-)
a few of us in C5 as usual. We'll keep singing  as we have for some time :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on September 15, 2012, 08:15:37 PM
Benteke remind you of anyone. Its like having Noel Blake as a central striker with skill!

Swansea are a very good team but in the second half we got the upper hand by sheer hard work.

Holman continues to impress.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: john e on September 15, 2012, 08:17:51 PM
We needed that result today to keep the points board ticking over and also the pressure of the first win doesn't begin to build,
I'm on board the Lambert revolution and have been ever since the first 30 minuets at WH, but although I have been happy with the signings and the new playing style I forget until I talk to others that we only had 1 point until today, so it's great to move up the league a bit.

The future is very bright, and that's down to the manager, to think that a couple of weeks ago posters were predicting we were nailed on for relegation if we didn't spend big on experienced players, and others were calling for the return of NCR and maybe Downing to save us from impending doom.

Just trust in Lambert, the man knows what he's doing
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 15, 2012, 08:20:20 PM
The big thing for me was the feelgood buzz around Villa Park...you could feel it was bubbling but obviously not winning for months and being 1 up is never a secure lead.

The roar when Benteke scored was fantastic, all the frustrations of the last 18 months spilling out.

I still think it will be a difficult season but there were some excellent individual performances....magnificent save from Guzan early on and his handling was excellent, Vlaar and Lowton were excellent in defence I thought and Holman gave the perfect industrial performance, he was everywhere.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 15, 2012, 08:23:29 PM
I see Holman as very much the symbolic sign of this new era for us.
A relative unknown but what a grafter !
It's great to have players who are PROUD to wear the shirt again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: jembob on September 15, 2012, 08:24:44 PM
We're there any tributes or mentions of Hillsborough at the game?

No

That's a pity, sounds as though most clubs played YNWA over the p.a. or supporters chanted for Justice.
We conducted our own Minute's Silence but that's fairly routine in the Upper Trinity. We did however, consider opening a Book of Condolence but a bloody good Villa performance got in the way.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 15, 2012, 08:25:51 PM
Its been a while since I hugged a complete stranger when we scored :-)
Great day
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Top Cat on September 15, 2012, 08:28:56 PM
Excellent :)

I been to work, then football as I arrived at Villa Park at 2.52pm and is delighted with the view as it is almost half way and in middle of trinty road lower. The game was a joy to watch and the team is completely different Villa I am used to. I love the new striker Benteke as he is very powerful. I think he will be our Dider Drogba eventually :) If Agbonlahor need a role model to follow watch him carefully. Think we will have a very very dangerous front pair in Bent and Benteke (The commentators will have nightmares :) )

I like the new Spanish Midfielder No 9 for Swansea. He impressed me.

I think we need to find a new Ashley Young/James Milner for winger role. As Charles is not suitable.


Did you get your ticket off Viagogo? I sold mine as I couldn't make the match and thats where I sit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on September 15, 2012, 08:37:52 PM
Even taking away Matt Lowton's goal I thought he was excellent today and I really like the look of him. In the matter of a couple of months Lambert has changed us completely. He's got us playing entertaining football, with hard working, enthusiastic players. His signings have all contributed to the way we play. The existing players - they actually look like they've been coached. Coached to play Lambert's style of football.
We're not there yet of course, but excited to to think that Lambert has a hell of a lot of time to make these players better. If he's given say Ł10m to spend in January I'm confident that it will be well spent money and certainly not wasted. I also think N'Zogbia has probably half a dozen games to save his Villa career.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 15, 2012, 08:39:24 PM
We were more fun than a bukaki party at Suzanne Virdee's. Benteke could be the new Drogba! Well done you Lions!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on September 15, 2012, 08:41:19 PM
Today was such blessed relief! I was buzzing when I walked out of VP: we played really well; we won; we beat a team that is not a pushover-side; we did so in style; we found some new heroes today ("Ooh - Ahh, Ronnie Vlaar").

I thought Holman was immense today. The back 5 looked the real deal. Bent worked harder to win the ball than I can remember. And Bannan is beginning to look a comfortable EPL player.

Lambert's got the momentum going in this squad, and I'm delighted.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: barrysleftfoot on September 15, 2012, 09:00:20 PM


   On friday i got 5 to 1 for Villa to finish in the top 10, so i'm quite optimistic.

  Great day, great effort, quite a lot of skill.I liked the fact that, for me KEA and Ireland had "off" days, and yet we still deserved to win.Solid at the back, FBs defending well, midfield working hard, and kept going.I never felt worried today.

  Benteke, as one bloke by me said " He's a big fooker".Really pleasantly surprised by how good he was on the floor.He missed an absolute open goal, but looked a really good player.

  Have to say, was very impressed by Michu today, he looks a really good player.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Fin Feds Dad on September 15, 2012, 09:02:08 PM
Great win and atmosphere today.

Just shows how bad it was last season ..............thank God that chapter is over !

If we keep that energy and desire all over the pitch then we will be more than alright this season.

Very happy tonight - UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on September 15, 2012, 09:02:16 PM
I would love to see the Swansea thread from last season. Off the back of the Chelsea result with a chance to kick on... similar circumstance and meekly lost 2-0 without a shot on target.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: claret and blue blood on September 15, 2012, 09:04:31 PM
Can't fault anyone today, we finished the stronger and the introduction of Benteke frightened Swansea -just great to watch us deservedly win a game and leave happy!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on September 15, 2012, 09:05:45 PM
I think ours is the only game that doesn't feature on Sky Sports website front page.

Fuck 'em I don't give a shit.  We're on the move and the only people that matter is us.  We're aware and we care, they can kiss my big hairy arsehole for all I care.

Fuckin' right pal!

Wasn't there today, as I got married yesterday and am flying to Majorca at six in the morning, but thank you Villa for your contribution to a perfect weekend.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: rutski on September 15, 2012, 09:11:22 PM
ace. i love the effort and commitment.

isnt it strange that when the team give their all the crowd reciprocate accordingly!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: bertlambshank on September 15, 2012, 09:11:30 PM
We were more fun than a bukaki party at Suzanne Virdee's. Benteke could be the new Drogba! Well done you Lions!
Where is she?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 15, 2012, 09:14:44 PM
We were more fun than a bukaki party at Suzanne Virdee's. Benteke could be the new Drogba! Well done you Lions!
Where is she?

Locked in cd's attic.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: ez on September 15, 2012, 09:20:07 PM
For me todays result means the nightmare is officially over :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on September 15, 2012, 09:21:14 PM
Nobody's touched on this refreshing fact yet but rather than bring on a defensive player to pack the midfield and defend our 1-0 lead for the last 10 minutes, Lambert brought on N'Zogbia to continue his attacking philosophy right to the death.

It was a great days entertainment, with both teams playing the game in the right way and trying to win the game and the best Villa team performance I've seen for years. The transformation from the Everton performance was dramatic. Every player played his part but if I had to pick out one player, Holman displayed incredible stamina and desire throughout.
It was great to leave Villa Park in an enthusiastic mood again. I'd almost forgotten what it felt like.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Nastylee on September 15, 2012, 09:25:06 PM
Don't think there should be any negativity on here today so go aways Ireland/Bent knockers. What I love the most is the way we are pressuring the opposition again, couldn't bear it the way we stood off last season and watched the opposition take the mick.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 15, 2012, 09:30:08 PM
Ron Vlaar is an absolute beast and I think will end up being one of the best centre backs in the league.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on September 15, 2012, 09:31:11 PM
I was impressed with Wee Barry today,kept things simple,was always available for the ball. It's amazing what decent coaching can do.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on September 15, 2012, 09:34:20 PM
I think ours is the only game that doesn't feature on Sky Sports website front page.

Fuck 'em I don't give a shit.  We're on the move and the only people that matter is us.  We're aware and we care, they can kiss my big hairy arsehole for all I care.

That should be our attitude. We tend to worry too much what others think. Let's have a siege mentality, focus on our revolution and start quietly climbing up that table (surprising all the 'experts' in the process)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: john2710 on September 15, 2012, 09:36:53 PM
Great all round team performance today, wouldn't be too critical of anyone. But Guzan's save in the first half was top drawer. After so many months since our last home win, the result was vital. The collective relief that came out after the second goal was tangible. There will be good days and bad days over the next few months, I just hope everyone remains patient.

I also think we might give a few teams a surprise or two.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on September 15, 2012, 09:37:05 PM
Congratulations to Lee and Mrs. B - on a fine Villa performance.

Only kidding mate, good luck to the both of you.

On a serious note though, married in the season? Those anniversaries are gonna be troublesome.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on September 15, 2012, 09:38:22 PM
Nobody's touched on this refreshing fact yet but rather than bring on a defensive player to pack the midfield and defend our 1-0 lead for the last 10 minutes, Lambert brought on N'Zogbia to continue his attacking philosophy right to the death.

It was a great days entertainment, with both teams playing the game in the right way and trying to win the game and the best Villa team performance I've seen for years. The transformation from the Everton performance was dramatic. Every player played his part but if I had to pick out one player, Holman displayed incredible stamina and desire throughout.
It was great to leave Villa Park in an enthusiastic mood again. I'd almost forgotten what it felt like.

I said earlier that it was refreshing to be 1-0 up, and still be dominating the game.  To then actually score a deserved second was extremely pleasing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Virgil Caine on September 15, 2012, 09:39:18 PM
I was impressed with Benteke - we have missed a forward who can hold the ball up and have the strength to keep hold of it until a player becomes available. Whilst keeping my expectations in check he could be most important signing we have made for 3 or 4 seasons and just the player to bring out the best from Bent/Gabby.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on September 15, 2012, 09:44:34 PM
Just got in from Thorpe Park so I don't really much besides the score, but it all sounds very positive and it's a treat looking forward to Match of the Day again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Virgil Caine on September 15, 2012, 09:48:28 PM
Chips- we are on 4th in the MOTD running order apparently.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on September 15, 2012, 09:51:23 PM
Not bad! I might still be awake when we come on for once.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: clash city rocker on September 15, 2012, 09:52:12 PM
Working today so couldn't go.Listened to Pat Murphy who was well impressed.He said Ron Saunders would have been impressed the way Lambert got the Holte to salute the players.  I remember the Saunders days well and i can't quite believe that we might be heading back to the days when we as a team and fans thought we could go anywhere and give  the opposition a game. Surely things can't be really getting that good - CAN THEY ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: rutski on September 15, 2012, 09:54:51 PM
where can i go on about my tactical nouse and the nulification of Average Michu??
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: mattjpa on September 15, 2012, 09:55:32 PM
Ger Regan and Mel (Irish Villain) that should put a smile on your faces before the evenings festivities.  Enjoy Brum and safe home.
I saw a chap in an Irish villains top in the holte today. Seen to remember him having a villa tattoo as well. Anyone care to own up?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: jcsutv on September 15, 2012, 10:16:37 PM
1.00 countdown to football first for 6 mths
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 15, 2012, 10:22:09 PM
1.00 countdown to football first for 6 mths

It's got the wrong fucking commentary on - our match has the Fulham commentary.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: jcsutv on September 15, 2012, 10:23:11 PM
Great! Fulham sound, Villa pictures?.?.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: jcsutv on September 15, 2012, 10:26:03 PM
Shit on the Villa from the Tesco bags.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ross on September 15, 2012, 10:39:27 PM
Are ITV helping Sky out for the evening. Quite an embarrassing cock up, when are thy going to sort it, do they even realise?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on September 15, 2012, 10:40:17 PM
Great! Fulham sound, Villa pictures?.?.

Yes. So Annoying!! Massive refunds please, overpriced phonehack b@&"'ds.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on September 15, 2012, 10:51:24 PM
I cancelled sky sports last month, the 30 quid a month for it on Virgin media was too much and the modern joy of 60 meg broadband means other ways are always there. MOTD for me tonight, but surely if sky have the wrong commentary on it is nothing to do with Branson and all to do with Murdoch?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: jcsutv on September 15, 2012, 10:52:06 PM
Branson is not guilty here. I think it's Murdoch.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Jarpie on September 15, 2012, 10:58:15 PM
Chips- we are on 4th in the MOTD running order apparently.

Doesn't exactly surprise me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: spangley1812 on September 15, 2012, 11:01:03 PM
Chips- we are on 4th in the MOTD running order apparently.

Doesn't exactly surprise me.

4th is about right tonight.......The Tesco bags game did have the added bonus of Odimwinge getting sent off
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Eckybloke on September 15, 2012, 11:09:56 PM
Gary Lineker reckons he gets the sense Paul Lambert knows what he's doing!

Keep it yourself Gaz, loose lips sink ships!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Fergal on September 15, 2012, 11:10:17 PM
Villa actually playing football? It was great to see us play that way, what will we have to moan about now?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on September 15, 2012, 11:12:23 PM
Hansen thought were were 'lucky'. twunt.

In fairness Lineker said 'but it was a great strike'.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on September 15, 2012, 11:13:33 PM
Villa actually playing football? It was great to see us play that way, what will we have to moan about now?

The audio, from the sounds of it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 15, 2012, 11:15:44 PM
Only saw the highlights on MOTD but what a blessed relief it is to see us swarming forward when 1-0 up.  Tougher tests to come but we're starting to look enthusiastic, creative and positive.  Good stuff.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: ez on September 15, 2012, 11:15:46 PM
Nobody's touched on this refreshing fact yet but rather than bring on a defensive player to pack the midfield and defend our 1-0 lead for the last 10 minutes, Lambert brought on N'Zogbia to continue his attacking philosophy right to the death.

It was a great days entertainment, with both teams playing the game in the right way and trying to win the game and the best Villa team performance I've seen for years. The transformation from the Everton performance was dramatic. Every player played his part but if I had to pick out one player, Holman displayed incredible stamina and desire throughout.
It was great to leave Villa Park in an enthusiastic mood again. I'd almost forgotten what it felt like.

I said earlier that it was refreshing to be 1-0 up, and still be dominating the game.  To then actually score a deserved second was extremely pleasing.
TSM would of had a fit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on September 15, 2012, 11:21:22 PM
Hansen compared PL to Pubehead. 'O'Neill-like' was the expression I believe.

I really hope they give it a rest.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on September 15, 2012, 11:23:21 PM
Hansen compared PL to Pubehead. 'O'Neill-like' was the expression I believe.

I really hope they give it a rest.

Well it's true despite the fact that Lambert's ideology is actually sustainable.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 15, 2012, 11:26:33 PM
Hansen compared PL to Pubehead. 'O'Neill-like' was the expression I believe.

I really hope they give it a rest.

I actually shuddered when he said that.

The BBC punditry is so fucking half arsed and lazy. Hansen "they were poor in the first game at West Ham" - I'll bet everything I own he didn't even see the fucking game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on September 15, 2012, 11:29:26 PM
Holman could be the new Des Bremner if he just cooled down a wee bit?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on September 15, 2012, 11:31:19 PM
The BBC punditry is so fucking half arsed and lazy. Hansen "they were poor in the first game at West Ham" - I'll bet everything I own he didn't even see the fucking game.

Now that I can agree with. Steve Claridge is particularly bad for this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on September 15, 2012, 11:31:36 PM
Witton Warrior, Des Bremner was never really cool lol. Always in peoples faces and great for the likes of Sir Dennis and Sid.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 15, 2012, 11:35:54 PM
Great day. Can't remember the last time I enjoyed watching us so much. Not long back from the match. Getting drunk in the Farcroft after a great win. Villa are back. UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Summers on September 15, 2012, 11:36:42 PM
Pretty much sums up MOTD pundits where when Alan & Alan are talking about Liverpool's midfield of Gerrard and Allen.. they say Allen is frustrating because he plays it about simply whereas Gerrard has the right idea because he always plays it forward. The game has evolved and most of the pundits haven't. Dinosaur managers are being left behind, as are dinosaur pundits now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 15, 2012, 11:39:56 PM
Oh and while I was chatting to Dave W before the game Wolfie walked past. It was an omen we would win. As was not seeing Mr Red Sox *wink* Also a bonus was Legion not falling over the barrier he was leaning on at half time. His new t-shirt is ace, it meant I could tell it was him even though he was in the Upper Witton and I was Upper Trinity. And have I mentioned i'm quite happily pished?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on September 15, 2012, 11:41:14 PM
All football punditry on TV is lazy. Dixon and Neville aside.

The Olympic Sport coverage had Claire Balding doing er everything with a horsey background, Nick Mullins and Eddie Butler (rugby folk) doing Judo, Tae Kwon Do and Archery.

Football carried on with comfort zone rubbish. Lawro's or Lawros's comentary on the Final saying I really see Brazil (v Mexico) turning it on today and putting  on a show and then Mexico scored after 30 secs. And never looked like losing. Priceless. :-)

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 15, 2012, 11:42:31 PM
I can't quite believe I am about to say this, but I thought ITV's punditry in the European Championships was excellent.

Jamie Carragher is - amazingly - a very good pundit indeed, if you can get past his whiny scouse accent. Roy Keane was entertaining, and Southgate speaks a lot of sense.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 15, 2012, 11:49:36 PM
I can't believe you are saying that ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on September 15, 2012, 11:52:22 PM
When we win and play well the post match thread is never as big.

Good performance from what I saw, Guzan playing well. Holman working his bollocks off Bannan doin well Benteke looks a monster, things are looking up. I must admit I was sweating a bit towards the end as we were missing a few chances delighted when we finished it off
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on September 16, 2012, 12:16:24 AM
What a transformation at VP.

What struck me most was how the players involved in every effective piece of action would congratulate each other - I can't see Bent surviving in this culture.

Large swathes of the central middle trinity unoccupied from my view directly opposite. Maybe they were watching the cricket.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 16, 2012, 01:02:51 AM
Hansen compared PL to Pubehead. 'O'Neill-like' was the expression I believe.

I really hope they give it a rest.

Lambert is the thinking man's Pubehead. Did we run the ball to the corner flags with ten minutes to play? Did we fuck.
Lambert understands he needs to get Villa Park rocking and he will. I'm delighted so many of you were 'entertained' today. I'm sure you all want to be there for the next home game. Likewise, those that weren't there wish they had been and are more likely to be there at the next home game. Sustainable Villa built on success and entertainment. It's all very 1975.

Love it!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Havencheese on September 16, 2012, 03:18:05 AM
Hey Robbie Savage!

Stick that in yer pipe and smoke it!

Toolbag.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Steve R on September 16, 2012, 05:35:34 AM
I can't remember seeing a top flight side give up possession deep in their own half as often as Swansea did today. We turned what should have been their strength into a weakness. Excellent stuff. They are a good side that have been playing well. We made them look toothless and ordinary.

We look a completely different team all of a sudden, and it is good to watch. There's still plenty more to do, but what a refeshing change from the crass football we have had to put up with for so many years.

We finally semed to have made it into the 21st century.

It's amazing how quickly all the new signings seem to have settled in. We used six relative newcomers today, with two making debut. You wouldn't have known it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on September 16, 2012, 07:31:56 AM
Hey Robbie Savage!

Stick that in yer pipe and smoke it!

Toolbag.

Don't even need to bother with him.

Shows how far we have sunk over the past couple of years that we have come on his radar.

He is trying to make up for leaving the noses (which was the higlhight of his career) by rubbising Villa.   Please don't rise to him.  He'll look stupid enough by the end of the season.
 

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Steve R on September 16, 2012, 07:58:05 AM
Just watched football first.

First mention of Lowton and 'good enough to push into the England setup'.

Admittedly it was Dave Bassett, who possibly has an axe to grind. But he (Lowton) does show promise of becoming a very good player.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on September 16, 2012, 08:05:23 AM
Now I've had some time to think about it, my favourite thing about yesterday is the fact once we had scored one, we tried to score another. I don't remember doing that last year.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on September 16, 2012, 08:18:12 AM
A 2-0 home win, with a goal in each half. Struggling to remember the last one of those
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: johnny from donny on September 16, 2012, 08:31:58 AM
steve, did you lose count of the number of times bassett said "the keeper didn't cover himself in glory" like i did?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on September 16, 2012, 08:50:21 AM
I once saw Bassett wandering around Croydon having a row with his missus. Had the orangest face I've ever seen outside Cash in the Attic
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on September 16, 2012, 08:53:13 AM
Yesterday's game was the first in a long, long time when i've been absorbed in the game totally from start to finish.
A far cry from last season's clockwatching and dying to get back to the pub for a drink.

Couldn't have picked a better one to take my son to for his first game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on September 16, 2012, 09:05:33 AM
My oldest boy went. I think it's the first time he's seen us win. He must have been wondering why we all bother. But now he knows
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on September 16, 2012, 09:36:55 AM
Very enjoyable, Holman summed up the team as a whole, the quality might not quite be there but the effort, tenacity and will to win was first class.

Well done to PL, he appears to have bought back hope.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 16, 2012, 09:52:42 AM
One thing not mentioned much here: I thought Bent played well. He was dropping back to join in moves and dropping wide to provide options and stretch the opposition. He worked hard, closed down, joined in the 'hunting in packs' pressing which is the key feature of our game now, and actually a lot of his touches were very good, very assured and much more confident. For the first time in ages, when he got the ball he seemed to have his head up, looking for options. If Lambert can keep getting those performances out of Bent when he starts scoring, we've got a hell of a forward on our hands.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: mrfuse on September 16, 2012, 09:56:53 AM
Pretty much sums up MOTD pundits where when Alan & Alan are talking about Liverpool's midfield of Gerrard and Allen.. they say Allen is frustrating because he plays it about simply whereas Gerrard has the right idea because he always plays it forward. The game has evolved and most of the pundits haven't. Dinosaur managers are being left behind, as are dinosaur pundits now.

Despite all the media bashing everyone likes to do,  I thought that was a valid point.  I'm the first to be shouting at the villa play it simple keep the ball but if there's a forward pass clearly on like in Allen's case play it, dont pass side ways just for the sake of it.

Hansen said he was always taught look forward first for the pass if its not on play it sideways, nothing wrong with that and I wouldn't class that as Dinosaur football or tactics.
I'm not sticking up for all media pundits, but I hate the attitude of bashing everyone for the sake of it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on September 16, 2012, 09:58:32 AM
Excellent :)

I been to work, then football as I arrived at Villa Park at 2.52pm and is delighted with the view as it is almost half way and in middle of trinty road lower. The game was a joy to watch and the team is completely different Villa I am used to. I love the new striker Benteke as he is very powerful. I think he will be our Dider Drogba eventually :) If Agbonlahor need a role model to follow watch him carefully. Think we will have a very very dangerous front pair in Bent and Benteke (The commentators will have nightmares :) )

I like the new Spanish Midfielder No 9 for Swansea. He impressed me.

I think we need to find a new Ashley Young/James Milner for winger role. As Charles is not suitable.


Did you get your ticket off Viagogo? I sold mine as I couldn't make the match and thats where I sit.

Yup :) Row 11 Trinty Road Lower about seat 165 (ish). I decided if I use Viagogo I could save money.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: OCD on September 16, 2012, 09:58:42 AM
Bent will thrive in the new set-up given time. It's good seeing Vlaar get the captain's arm band though as it gives lambert to change his forward options around and allows Bent to focus on scoring goals.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on September 16, 2012, 10:06:54 AM
One thing not mentioned much here: I thought Bent played well. He was dropping back to join in moves and dropping wide to provide options and stretch the opposition. He worked hard, closed down, joined in the 'hunting in packs' pressing which is the key feature of our game now, and actually a lot of his touches were very good, very assured and much more confident. For the first time in ages, when he got the ball he seemed to have his head up, looking for options. If Lambert can keep getting those performances out of Bent when he starts scoring, we've got a hell of a forward on our hands.

I don't know what game you were watching? Bent did the occasional run down the channel, but was lazy when it came to closing down, Holman chased down 3 players from our own half back to their keeper, he ran passed Bent in the process.??
Another occasion we lost possession and Weimann ran back and closed down while bent just casually strolled back from an offside position.

He was better in some instances, like aerial he won a lot of balls and he when he did run the channel was more composed than usual.

But he has a lot of work to do to improve or he will be dropped by Lambert.

The main thing though, is I can see improvement in everyone and I think it's only a matter of time before Bent gets back into form, because if we keep up performances like that and get Bent scoring, we will finish top 10 no problem.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: mrastonvilla on September 16, 2012, 10:10:29 AM
Holman was excellent, particularly in the first half yesterday. He seems to have a free role with the aim of breaking up play. The number of times he made a sprint and pinched the ball off of a Swansea player was remarkable, his passing was also much better.

Benteke's 20 minutes were excellent he won't remain "Belgium's best kept secret" for long if he keeps it up.

More importantly the hunger from the team was immense and the atmosphere has returned in response to this. Hopefully the attendances will improve as the season progresses.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Top Cat on September 16, 2012, 10:25:14 AM
Excellent :)

I been to work, then football as I arrived at Villa Park at 2.52pm and is delighted with the view as it is almost half way and in middle of trinty road lower. The game was a joy to watch and the team is completely different Villa I am used to. I love the new striker Benteke as he is very powerful. I think he will be our Dider Drogba eventually :) If Agbonlahor need a role model to follow watch him carefully. Think we will have a very very dangerous front pair in Bent and Benteke (The commentators will have nightmares :) )

I like the new Spanish Midfielder No 9 for Swansea. He impressed me.

I think we need to find a new Ashley Young/James Milner for winger role. As Charles is not suitable.


Did you get your ticket off Viagogo? I sold mine as I couldn't make the match and thats where I sit.

Yup :) Row 11 Trinty Road Lower about seat 165 (ish). I decided if I use Viagogo I could save money.


Right row but my seat is 151 (150 would have been empty too as that belongs to SOTC who's also away on her hols). Glad you enjoyed it anyway - my flight landed at BHX at 14.10 so wish I'd made the effort to go straight to Villa Park!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on September 16, 2012, 10:36:37 AM
The thing that i like most going by the last two games is the way we close down the opposition  whenever they have the ball. We did'nt let Swansea play their normal passing game at all yesterday. This is going to work really well away from home so it would'nt surprise me if we pick up some really good results on our travels if we keep that side of our game up.

As for yesterday, i thought they were great. I could'nt see Swansea scoring at all, it was one of those rare games where i did'nt think the 2nd goal was essential but i'm glad we got it all the same. There was plenty of plaudits for Holman but i thought Vlaar was really good and as the season goes on El Ahmadi will get better and better.

The only thing i would have done differently yesterday was maybe bringing on Gabby instead of N'Zogbia to catch them on the break but otherwise Lambert got it spot on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on September 16, 2012, 10:43:24 AM
I wonder if he is just seeing if N'Zog fits into his plans and will try him at different times. I'm sure he will get Gabyy going and utilise him and is confident about that. I can see N'zog being surplus to requirements come next season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: VinnieChase84 on September 16, 2012, 10:53:34 AM
*Holman impressed me massively yesterday. His work rate and how he closes everyone down is second to none. If he can improve his passing then he will be one hell of a player.
*Lowton keeps impressing me too, think he will compete with Kyle walker for RB spot for England in the not too distant future.
*overall I thought we were really good. So refreshing to see his hard we work and play football the right way! I enjoyed yesterday more than the last few seasons combined!
* I loved it when Vlaar ran shoulder to shoulder with a Swansea lad from our box, simply hand palmed him away and then knocked the ball around the approaching player to carry on his run! Brilliant
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: nigel on September 16, 2012, 10:57:18 AM
Posted this on a couple of threads, but thought I'd do the rounds and put it on this one too  :)

An interesting stat I heard before yesterdays game.
After 1 game Brad Guzan is number 1 in Europe (this season) for goalkeeper claiming crosses. I'm assuming that's catching the ball rather than punching.
I loved it yesterday when he came out almost to the edge of the box to claim one ball. The defenders must love that, takes a lot of pressure off them. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: maidstonevillain on September 16, 2012, 10:59:26 AM
One thing not mentioned much here: I thought Bent played well. He was dropping back to join in moves and dropping wide to provide options and stretch the opposition. He worked hard, closed down, joined in the 'hunting in packs' pressing which is the key feature of our game now, and actually a lot of his touches were very good, very assured and much more confident. For the first time in ages, when he got the ball he seemed to have his head up, looking for options. If Lambert can keep getting those performances out of Bent when he starts scoring, we've got a hell of a forward on our hands.

I don't know what game you were watching? Bent did the occasional run down the channel, but was lazy when it came to closing down, Holman chased down 3 players from our own half back to their keeper, he ran passed Bent in the process.??
Another occasion we lost possession and Weimann ran back and closed down while bent just casually strolled back from an offside position.

He was better in some instances, like aerial he won a lot of balls and he when he did run the channel was more composed than usual.

But he has a lot of work to do to improve or he will be dropped by Lambert.

The main thing though, is I can see improvement in everyone and I think it's only a matter of time before Bent gets back into form, because if we keep up performances like that and get Bent scoring, we will finish top 10 no problem.

So what's the problem with that. If you have one of the best forwards in the League, whos main forte is beating defenders and running on to through balls, he is not going to be particularly effective if he is totally knackered fron chasing balls all day. There are other players who can do that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Mike Jeffries on September 16, 2012, 11:07:34 AM
Sunday..........kicking back doing nothing in particular, very happy with how the Villa played.........Hmmm it's nice isn't it!

Though I am half expecting to look out the front window and see Brett Holman, charging past having not stopped running since yesterday!   
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: stubbsyandy on September 16, 2012, 11:08:33 AM
 Holman= Des Bremner???
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on September 16, 2012, 11:13:10 AM
stubbsyandy, Holman certainly has the same appetite for running and chasing the ball down like Des Bremner did.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on September 16, 2012, 11:15:59 AM
Did anyone else notice how, after Holman went off, KEA became more prominent in midfield? It seemed to me that rather tahn being a holding palyer, KEA started pressing and intercepting higher up the pitch, just like Holman had been. It shows to me that the players are working for each other, know what their jobs are, and are adaptable to changes. Very impressive.

As someone else said, for the first time in what seems an age, I was totally absorbed in the game, and celebrated the goals like a mad man.

The times they are a changing.  I like it!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on September 16, 2012, 11:19:56 AM
Sunday..........kicking back doing nothing in particular, very happy with how the Villa played.........Hmmm it's nice isn't it!

Though I am half expecting to look out the front window and see Brett Holman, charging past having not stopped running since yesterday!   


it is bloody lovely , new game have you seen Brett Holman chasing down your street ? :D
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on September 16, 2012, 11:21:35 AM
My ratings:

Guzan 8. Very assured, two great saves
Lowton 8. Looks a really good player. Needs to improve defensively
Vlaar 8. Dominant.
Clark 7. Good I thought. A threat too.
Lichaj 7. Better on the ball than I thought he'd be.
KEA 6. Not the best. A bit ponderous I thought and not sure he protected the defence very well.
Holman 8. Would love to see his mileage! Hopefully passing will improve as he adjusts to pace.
Ireland 6. Bit disappointing though some moments of quality. Surprised he didn't pass it better.
Bannan 8. Mediocre first half but excellent in the second I thought
Bent 7. Hit and miss but worked hard when we had the ball and created a few chances
Weimann 7. Unlucky not to score

Benteke  8. One embarrassing miss aside he was a massive handful
Westwood. Couldn't tell you to be honest. Probably a good sign in that position
N'zogbia 6. As ever looks like he's going to be a threat but his decision making is poor. I've not given up on him yet though
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on September 16, 2012, 11:22:30 AM
Did anyone else notice how, after Holman went off, KEA became more prominent in midfield? It seemed to me that rather tahn being a holding palyer, KEA started pressing and intercepting higher up the pitch, just like Holman had been. It shows to me that the players are working for each other, know what their jobs are, and are adaptable to changes. Very impressive.

As someone else said, for the first time in what seems an age, I was totally absorbed in the game, and celebrated the goals like a mad man.

The times they are a changing.  I like it!

Surely this was because Westwood was holding and kea playing further advanced?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on September 16, 2012, 11:23:30 AM
Quote from:  proof that the stupid have too loud a voice
Aston Villa have had a good win today, but they haven't beaten an Arsenal, a Manchester United or a Chelsea. I'm still not convinced, though I like Paul Lambert as a manager. I tipped them to go down and I stick by that, because of the players that they've got.

I love it. Because we haven't beaten by far and away the best teams in the league, we're going down. By that logic, you could tip Liverpool to go down as well. Or Spurs. Or Newcastle. Or pretty much anyone outside the top four.

Well done, Robbie Savage.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on September 16, 2012, 11:23:34 AM
Just before Benteke came on we had a series of corners. I think he could of done some damage with the balls that Bannan fired in along with Concrete Ron to further disrupte defences. In the past most defences focused on Bent but now we have options ......
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 16, 2012, 11:31:15 AM
I think it's great that we have Bent, Benteke, Gabby and Weimann and they all offer different qualities. It's nice to have options.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Confusious says on September 16, 2012, 12:08:07 PM
Holman= Des Bremner???
Holman = Des Bremner = Frank Carrodus
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: stubbsyandy on September 16, 2012, 12:13:02 PM
Holman= Des Bremner???
Holman = Des Bremner = Frank Carrodus
You are obviously of a certain age..like me!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: ktvillan on September 16, 2012, 12:24:26 PM
Pretty much sums up MOTD pundits where when Alan & Alan are talking about Liverpool's midfield of Gerrard and Allen.. they say Allen is frustrating because he plays it about simply whereas Gerrard has the right idea because he always plays it forward. The game has evolved and most of the pundits haven't. Dinosaur managers are being left behind, as are dinosaur pundits now.



Despite all the media bashing everyone likes to do,  I thought that was a valid point.  I'm the first to be shouting at the villa play it simple keep the ball but if there's a forward pass clearly on like in Allen's case play it, dont pass side ways just for the sake of it.

Hansen said he was always taught look forward first for the pass if its not on play it sideways, nothing wrong with that and I wouldn't class that as Dinosaur football or tactics.
I'm not sticking up for all media pundits, but I hate the attitude of bashing everyone for the sake of it.

I don't often have much time for anything Messrs Hansen and especially Shearer have to say, but I have to agree with Mr Fuse, keeping possession doesn't have to always be about taking the easy option for a pass.  Sooner or later someone has to get it forward, and sometimes the quicker you can do this the more it catches the opposition napping.   
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on September 16, 2012, 12:25:56 PM
I reckon if we have Given in goal, we would lose this one. Well Done Paul for sticking with Guzan :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on September 16, 2012, 12:30:44 PM
One thing not mentioned much here: I thought Bent played well. He was dropping back to join in moves and dropping wide to provide options and stretch the opposition. He worked hard, closed down, joined in the 'hunting in packs' pressing which is the key feature of our game now, and actually a lot of his touches were very good, very assured and much more confident. For the first time in ages, when he got the ball he seemed to have his head up, looking for options. If Lambert can keep getting those performances out of Bent when he starts scoring, we've got a hell of a forward on our hands.

I don't know what game you were watching? Bent did the occasional run down the channel, but was lazy when it came to closing down, Holman chased down 3 players from our own half back to their keeper, he ran passed Bent in the process.??
Another occasion we lost possession and Weimann ran back and closed down while bent just casually strolled back from an offside position.

He was better in some instances, like aerial he won a lot of balls and he when he did run the channel was more composed than usual.

But he has a lot of work to do to improve or he will be dropped by Lambert.

The main thing though, is I can see improvement in everyone and I think it's only a matter of time before Bent gets back into form, because if we keep up performances like that and get Bent scoring, we will finish top 10 no problem.

So what's the problem with that. If you have one of the best forwards in the League, whos main forte is beating defenders and running on to through balls, he is not going to be particularly effective if he is totally knackered fron chasing balls all day. There are other players who can do that.

Because this season Bent hasn't been making those runs or making space for himself, add that to not helping out in other areas, it was like playing with 10 men.

Yesterday he was better, but still not doing his job.

Weimann was a real team player, made runs, held the ball up and was getting shots away and was very unlucky not to score. I think he deserves to keep his place instead of Bent for Benteke.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on September 16, 2012, 12:34:26 PM
These two links show how bannan's performance improved hugely after half time:

http://fourfourtwo.com/statszone/share.aspx?i=0cbtg

http://fourfourtwo.com/statszone/share.aspx?i=0crmv
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: stubbsyandy on September 16, 2012, 12:37:25 PM
It was great to enjoy a game for a change and when you think of the new personnel and the short time PL has been in charge we have come a long way already. There is obviously a lot more to do, but I am absolutely convinced this is the man for the job.
In addition, I was really impressed by the body language of the players at the final whistle, Guzan hugging Ron etc....we seem to have the Villa spirit growing in this team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on September 16, 2012, 12:37:51 PM
I don't think Holman is similar to Bremner because he seems to have a better range of passing. And as silly as it seems to say I don't think we've seen him pass particularly well. But you can see he's always looking for the ball to slip the frontman in.

Finally, can we count Lowton's goal as coming from a corner? thus putting another shit stat to bed?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 16, 2012, 12:38:13 PM
Finally managed to catch up on this. Spent 20 hours bus hopping in Thailand. Highlights suggest we played good stuff again. Guzan impressive and I fancied Benteke to score on his debut. Onwards and upwards. Holman impresses me. Lowton I've really taken too. He's a decent player and hasn't been fazed at all. Think he'll be a cracking signing.

Bent could do with being dropped. He doesn't seem as confident as he can be and he looks a bit lost at the minute, especially when a chance comes his way. I'd rather go with Gabby and Benteke, or let Wiemann keep his spot. I think he'll be itching to prove himself this season. He's got a little class about him at times. The more confident he gets, the better he'll get.

Things are looking up now. Hopefully I'll be able to snag the next game somewhere out here.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on September 16, 2012, 12:41:33 PM
And this that although kea was s bit ropey, he doesn't like giving the ball away

http://fourfourtwo.com/statszone/share.aspx?i=0cmHf
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: john e on September 16, 2012, 12:51:27 PM
i was luke warm to the appointment of Lambert

now i wouldnt swap him for any other manager in the premieship

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: mrastonvilla on September 16, 2012, 01:11:10 PM
Did anyone else notice how, after Holman went off, KEA became more prominent in midfield? It seemed to me that rather tahn being a holding palyer, KEA started pressing and intercepting higher up the pitch, just like Holman had been. It shows to me that the players are working for each other, know what their jobs are, and are adaptable to changes. Very impressive.

As someone else said, for the first time in what seems an age, I was totally absorbed in the game, and celebrated the goals like a mad man.

The times they are a changing.  I like it!

Surely this was because Westwood was holding and kea playing further advanced?

Noticed this too! KEA played a more advanced role after Ireland went off. I think we will see more of KEA in this role as Westwood finds his feet in the withdrawn midfielder role and particularly if Ireland doesn't start to deliver a little more in terms of supply and threat from midfield. I think it will also help with the intensity of playing a pressing game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on September 16, 2012, 01:14:40 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Westwood start v Southampton, with KEA slightly further forward. Then its Holman plus either Bannan or Ireland on the other side.

Of course, he may keep the midfield the same
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on September 16, 2012, 01:37:14 PM
Did anyone else notice how, after Holman went off, KEA became more prominent in midfield? It seemed to me that rather tahn being a holding palyer, KEA started pressing and intercepting higher up the pitch, just like Holman had been. It shows to me that the players are working for each other, know what their jobs are, and are adaptable to changes. Very impressive.

As someone else said, for the first time in what seems an age, I was totally absorbed in the game, and celebrated the goals like a mad man.

The times they are a changing.  I like it!
Yep, Westwood dropped a little deeper.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on September 16, 2012, 01:39:31 PM
One thing not mentioned much here: I thought Bent played well. He was dropping back to join in moves and dropping wide to provide options and stretch the opposition. He worked hard, closed down, joined in the 'hunting in packs' pressing which is the key feature of our game now, and actually a lot of his touches were very good, very assured and much more confident. For the first time in ages, when he got the ball he seemed to have his head up, looking for options. If Lambert can keep getting those performances out of Bent when he starts scoring, we've got a hell of a forward on our hands.

I don't know what game you were watching? Bent did the occasional run down the channel, but was lazy when it came to closing down, Holman chased down 3 players from our own half back to their keeper, he ran passed Bent in the process.??
Another occasion we lost possession and Weimann ran back and closed down while bent just casually strolled back from an offside position.

He was better in some instances, like aerial he won a lot of balls and he when he did run the channel was more composed than usual.

But he has a lot of work to do to improve or he will be dropped by Lambert.

The main thing though, is I can see improvement in everyone and I think it's only a matter of time before Bent gets back into form, because if we keep up performances like that and get Bent scoring, we will finish top 10 no problem.

So what's the problem with that. If you have one of the best forwards in the League, whos main forte is beating defenders and running on to through balls, he is not going to be particularly effective if he is totally knackered fron chasing balls all day. There are other players who can do that.
Bent was fine yesterday: I was impressed with the way he started to become provider, for Weimann in the first half and Benteke (at least twice ) in the second.

If we play like that consistently, Bent, Weimann, Gabby and Benteke will all get plenty of chances to provide and to score. It's a formidable set of strikers, I'd say.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on September 16, 2012, 02:01:47 PM
Holman= Des Bremner???
Holman = Des Bremner = Frank Carrodus
You are obviously of a certain age..like me!
and spot on!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on September 16, 2012, 02:09:34 PM
One thing not mentioned much here: I thought Bent played well. He was dropping back to join in moves and dropping wide to provide options and stretch the opposition. He worked hard, closed down, joined in the 'hunting in packs' pressing which is the key feature of our game now, and actually a lot of his touches were very good, very assured and much more confident. For the first time in ages, when he got the ball he seemed to have his head up, looking for options. If Lambert can keep getting those performances out of Bent when he starts scoring, we've got a hell of a forward on our hands.

I don't know what game you were watching? Bent did the occasional run down the channel, but was lazy when it came to closing down, Holman chased down 3 players from our own half back to their keeper, he ran passed Bent in the process.??
Another occasion we lost possession and Weimann ran back and closed down while bent just casually strolled back from an offside position.

He was better in some instances, like aerial he won a lot of balls and he when he did run the channel was more composed than usual.

But he has a lot of work to do to improve or he will be dropped by Lambert.

The main thing though, is I can see improvement in everyone and I think it's only a matter of time before Bent gets back into form, because if we keep up performances like that and get Bent scoring, we will finish top 10 no problem.

So what's the problem with that. If you have one of the best forwards in the League, whos main forte is beating defenders and running on to through balls, he is not going to be particularly effective if he is totally knackered fron chasing balls all day. There are other players who can do that.

Because this season Bent hasn't been making those runs or making space for himself, add that to not helping out in other areas, it was like playing with 10 men.

Yesterday he was better, but still not doing his job.

Weimann was a real team player, made runs, held the ball up and was getting shots away and was very unlucky not to score. I think he deserves to keep his place instead of Bent for Benteke.

I really don't get this at all, Bent seemed more involved in the game yesterday than he has for a while. Weimann is a busy player but Bent played the link role very well I though, in fact he suprised me a little with how good he was.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 16, 2012, 02:11:00 PM
I reckon if we have Given in goal, we would lose this one. Well Done Paul for sticking with Guzan :)

I had a feeling Guzan wouldn't play, not because Lambert preferred Given but due to the air miles Brad made with the US team. I'm assuming he flew to the States, then down to Jamica and back to the US before returning to Brum.

The save from Dyer was outstanding. It really was heading to the top corner.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Yossarian on September 16, 2012, 02:18:23 PM
I am definitely in the Bent played well yeaterday camp. I thought he put a good shift in and had some deft little touches.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on September 16, 2012, 02:21:14 PM
I am definitely in the Bent played well yeaterday camp. I thought he put a good shift in and had some deft little touches.

Same here, thought it was the most complete performance he's put in in ages.  Would have been nice to cap it with a goal, but if the rest of the team is creating chances and scoring, who cares?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: SashasGrandad on September 16, 2012, 02:21:27 PM
Holman= Des Bremner???
Holman = Des Bremner = Frank Carrodus
You are obviously of a certain age..like me!
and spot on!

The hair style is more Frank Carrodus
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on September 16, 2012, 02:22:43 PM
But for Benteke missing a near-open goal and a brilliant clearing header from Tate he would have made three goals yesterday.

Not bad for a player who can't do anything but score tap-ins.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on September 16, 2012, 02:23:16 PM
We played really well if we can produce that sort of performance for the rest of the season I will be more than happy we were a joy to watch.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: SashasGrandad on September 16, 2012, 02:27:35 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Westwood start v Southampton, with KEA slightly further forward. Then its Holman plus either Bannan or Ireland on the other side.

Of course, he may keep the midfield the same

I don't think Ireland can think quick enough to be be able to play this type of football. Too many times he was caught in possession or too slow to react.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on September 16, 2012, 02:30:14 PM
Just watched football first.

First mention of Lowton and 'good enough to push into the England setup'.

Admittedly it was Dave Bassett, who possibly has an axe to grind. But he (Lowton) does show promise of becoming a very good player.




did you not get the Fulham commentary .lol
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on September 16, 2012, 02:32:32 PM
I am definitely in the Bent played well yeaterday camp. I thought he put a good shift in and had some deft little touches.

Same here, thought it was the most complete performance he's put in in ages.  Would have been nice to cap it with a goal, but if the rest of the team is creating chances and scoring, who cares?

and winning.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 16, 2012, 02:36:53 PM
There's no need for Bent bashing or questioning. We all know he needs a certain type of service to be most effective. It's coming. He lost two superb providers in Ash and Downing and is just coming off a disastrous year for the club coupled with his own injury. Now, with a new manager and a steadily improving team he's going to get better support and we will figure out a way of getting him and the other forwards better service. You can already see he is working harder to be a more complete player, and there is already some evidence of a growing understanding with Wiemann. Add in a Benteke and a healthy Gabby it only bodes well for him and for our entire strikeforce.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on September 16, 2012, 02:40:41 PM
I thought everyone worked hard yesterday even some who had a little off day worked their claret and blue bollocks off.

Bent was great yesterday , can't believe people still moaning after  that win and the performance. Fickle comes to mind.

The squad is now looking a lot better , all hungry players.

And the manager will work his magic on Albrighton , Delph , Bennett and Gardner in the future too.

Lambert is a top manager and I am so happy he is with us.   I feel good again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on September 16, 2012, 02:48:44 PM
But for Benteke missing a near-open goal and a brilliant clearing header from Tate he would have made three goals yesterday.

Not bad for a player who can't do anything but score tap-ins.

I've always found that to be a myth anyway.
He's more than capable of holding the ball up, laying the ball off and working hard outside the box.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on September 16, 2012, 02:51:17 PM
I thought everyone worked hard yesterday even some who had a little off day worked their claret and blue bollocks off.

Bent was great yesterday , can't believe people still moaning after  that win and the performance. Fickle comes to mind.

The squad is now looking a lot better , all hungry players.

And the manager will work his magic on Albrighton , Delph , Bennett and Gardner in the future too.

Lambert is a top manager and I am so happy he is with us.   I feel good again.

Good point about Albrighton. It will be interesting to see how Mr Lambert and his coaching staff improve him. Could be a very effective team player this season
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on September 16, 2012, 02:53:27 PM
I thought Bent was great as well yesterday, he covered more ground than he normally does and really did work hard but i'm not sure we're getting the best out of him in that kind of role. We need him in the box doing what he does best and maybe over time we'll see Benteke do the donkey work as it were.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Sleeping Giant on September 16, 2012, 03:11:36 PM
Just been looking at photos of yesterdays game and it appears Vlaar was skipper. Was this for the whole game? Cant seem to be able to confirm it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 16, 2012, 03:13:05 PM
Just been looking at photos of yesterdays game and it appears Vlaar was skipper. Was this for the whole game? Cant seem to be able to confirm it.

No, they switched at points during the game between Bent, Barry and Ron.

Edit- sorry, I'm being a cock. Yes, The Concrete One is the new team captain.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 16, 2012, 03:21:58 PM
Just been looking at photos of yesterdays game and it appears Vlaar was skipper. Was this for the whole game? Cant seem to be able to confirm it.

He was captain throughout. Did a great job aswell.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on September 16, 2012, 03:23:23 PM
I didn't see any of the game yesterday due to my inconsiderate sister getting married and asking me to be an usher. Having scanned through the match thread today it seems that this was a very encouraging performance, coupled with a clean sheet and 2 goals from newbies (one of which was a screamer by all accounts). Lets just hope they build on this with another win next Saturday.

(I've got a sneaky feeling we'll turn Citeh over in the cup too).


Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: mozza on September 16, 2012, 03:28:55 PM
posted on wrong thread ............suffice to say I was chuffed with yesterday - good times are coming back
to Villa Park

well done the manager & his backroom staff ..........the players ............and the fans

we are in this together and provided we pull in the same direction like this performance its onwards and upwards
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 16, 2012, 03:29:05 PM
First team were training at BMH today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on September 16, 2012, 03:31:39 PM
What was the crowd?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on September 16, 2012, 03:34:16 PM
34000 and a handfull if memory serves, good atmosphere as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: spangley1812 on September 16, 2012, 03:35:23 PM
What was the crowd?

Att: 34,005
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on September 16, 2012, 03:38:29 PM
I am definitely in the Bent played well yeaterday camp. I thought he put a good shift in and had some deft little touches.

Same here, thought it was the most complete performance he's put in in ages.  Would have been nice to cap it with a goal, but if the rest of the team is creating chances and scoring, who cares?

Maybe, but he never looked remotely like scoring, which is his primary role, we have players that can link up play a lot better.

My gripe I've had with Bent is, if he isn't scoring, he isn't contributing. I admit he was better yesterday, BUT surely The team would benifit by replacing him with Benteke, because Weimann was a much greater threat.

I'm not saying give up on Bent, but he and Ireland were our poorest players yesterday and I would replace both with Benteke and Westwood for Southampton.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on September 16, 2012, 03:39:20 PM
A couple more winning performances like that and we should see them creep up towards 38k+ which would be great.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on September 16, 2012, 03:41:57 PM
I don't get this Bent bashing. He worked bloody hard and created a number of chances.

We were bloody great yesterday. The Everton game still felt like a hangover from last season. About 65 minutes in yesterday the crowd turned and not in a bad way.

It was a like a great big collective light switch had been turned on and the fans, as one, all started to believe again.

In Lambert we trust.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on September 16, 2012, 03:44:39 PM
I don't get this Bent bashing. He worked bloody hard and created a number of chances.

We were bloody great yesterday. The Everton game still felt like a hangover from last season. About 65 minutes in yesterday the crowd turned and not in a bad way.

It was a like a great big collective light switch had been turned on and the fans, as one, all started to believe again.

In Lambert we trust.

We have to moan about somebody, we're Villa fans and it's in our psyche.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on September 16, 2012, 03:51:40 PM
Have to say I find it amazing how we have to have a go at someone. After Newcastle, it was Holman, though I thought he was excellent then and again yesterday and the comparisons with Carrodus and Bremner are correct in the way they are real team players. Now it is Bent, who it seemed to me played a good role in a cracking team performance. Think credit has to go to the manager for keeping the same team that did so well at Newcastle. It must have given the likes of Lichaj, Bannan and Weimann a massive boost that he did this, great man management IMHO. The more I hear him speak and see the football, the more I am excited at the future of Aston Villa Football club with Paul Lambert at the helm.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 16, 2012, 04:35:25 PM
The disappointing thing about yesterday was attendance. Swansea had a good turn out so 34 k was not good enough. VP does not look impressive  with half empty Trinity and Witton Lane.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 16, 2012, 04:41:45 PM
Just been looking at photos of yesterdays game and it appears Vlaar was skipper. Was this for the whole game? Cant seem to be able to confirm it.

He was captain throughout. Did a great job aswell.
Yes he was skipper in real terms but I am not sure he should  try to be a right winger!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on September 16, 2012, 04:43:37 PM
Witton Warrior, Des Bremner was never really cool lol. Always in peoples faces and great for the likes of Sir Dennis and Sid.

Just saw this luton - lol indeed!
Des had that hard-boiled look about him that was anything but cool.
Holman wants the ball, wants to drive the team forward, break things up - maybe better on the ball than Des but not as influential yet.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on September 16, 2012, 04:48:24 PM
There were signs against Newcastle that Bent is trying to contribute more, and it continued yesterday to greater effect. It will be telling to see if he continues his impressive scoring stats hold up, because the way he used to play a one in two scoring ratio was really nothing special.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: jembob on September 16, 2012, 04:49:31 PM
The disappointing thing about yesterday was attendance. Swansea had a good turn out so 34 k was not good enough. VP does not look impressive  with half empty Trinity and Witton Lane.
We were talking about this before the game and agreed that the damage done over the last couple of seasons will take quite a while to repair. We'll need a consistent run of good results at home to start tempting people back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 16, 2012, 04:50:33 PM
Holman= Des Bremner???
Holman = Des Bremner = Frank Carrodus
You are obviously of a certain age..like me!
Like me as well. As good as Des was he never made to Frank's level in my opinion and if Brett comes close to that we'll be ok.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on September 16, 2012, 04:56:30 PM
Witton Warrior, Des Bremner was never really cool lol. Always in peoples faces and great for the likes of Sir Dennis and Sid.

Just saw this luton - lol indeed!
Des had that hard-boiled look about him that was anything but cool.
Holman wants the ball, wants to drive the team forward, break things up - maybe better on the ball than Des but not as influential yet.

Early days, but the signs are promising. Holman looks as if he will be a really good player for the club. The first game Des played he was absolute pants, thought Sir Ron had signed a dud. Geddis made his debut the same game and Mike Pejic was making home debut if I recall correctly
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 16, 2012, 07:04:48 PM
Just watched the game as recorded on Football First.

I thought Bent worked really hard, contrary to his reputation, dropped back and helped out an awful lot.

We played some exccellent stuff, we combined an urge to get the ball back as quickly as we can, with a willingness to try to play with the ball and keep it once we'd done that. This is going to take a long time to get right, but it is a definite good start.

I thought the entire team were excellent.

Big shout out for Brett Holman, who never stopped running, and is starting to remind me of James Milner, the one player of all those we've sold that we miss the most.

Also, Lowton looks more and more comfortable every game, as does Vlaar.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: tarzansbrother on September 16, 2012, 07:14:40 PM
Just watched the game as recorded on Football First.

I thought Bent worked really hard, contrary to his reputation, dropped back and helped out an awful lot.

We played some exccellent stuff, we combined an urge to get the ball back as quickly as we can, with a willingness to try to play with the ball and keep it once we'd done that. This is going to take a long time to get right, but it is a definite good start.

I thought the entire team were excellent.

Big shout out for Brett Holman, who never stopped running, and is starting to remind me of James Milner, the one player of all those we've sold that we miss the most.

Also, Lowton looks more and more comfortable every game, as does Vlaar.

Bent did fuck all until Benteke came on. He needs to shape up, but I do accept he may need more time due to his injury lay off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ryu on September 16, 2012, 07:17:32 PM
Oh and I'll praise Ireland as well, didn't quite work creatively but he worked incredibly hard.

FFS he was abysmal.  Gave the ball away in key areas, didn't create a jot and had one limp effort of a shot.  Total waste of space and the one negative in an otherwise very positive day.

That's very harsh IMO.  Not a lot came off for him on the ball but off it he was fine.  Got himself in decent positions and pressed Swansea high up the pitch along with the rest of the team.

There is somewhere between being excellent and abysmal.

Also, I think The Zog did OK when he came on.  Be interesting to see if he can play the more central role, as we don't seem to be playing with wingers under Lambert.  He'll have to consistently work hard off the ball to get near the team as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: gervilla on September 16, 2012, 08:58:28 PM
Just watched the game as recorded on Football First.

I thought Bent worked really hard, contrary to his reputation, dropped back and helped out an awful lot.

We played some exccellent stuff, we combined an urge to get the ball back as quickly as we can, with a willingness to try to play with the ball and keep it once we'd done that. This is going to take a long time to get right, but it is a definite good start.

I thought the entire team were excellent.

Big shout out for Brett Holman, who never stopped running, and is starting to remind me of James Milner, the one player of all those we've sold that we miss the most.

Also, Lowton looks more and more comfortable every game, as does Vlaar.

Bent did fuck all until Benteke came on. He needs to shape up, but I do accept he may need more time due to his injury lay off.

I agree.
He looked 10 times better once Benteke came on.
I found him very frustrating to watch...but not half as frustrating as Stephen Ireland.
He was embarrassing at times. I don't think I have ever seen a player get brushed aside so easily.
He needs to grow a pair and and a bit of steel to his play.  Bloody lightweight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on September 16, 2012, 10:30:44 PM
On Match of the Day I see they played You'll Never Walk Alone and did an applause before the game for the 96 today at Reading, did we do something similar yesterday?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: gervilla on September 16, 2012, 10:33:19 PM
Nope.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on September 16, 2012, 10:37:58 PM
Ah.

Reading overdid it, but I wish we'd done something. Maybe a nice message on one of the screens or something.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: gervilla on September 16, 2012, 10:41:52 PM
I think there was a 1 minute silence.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on September 16, 2012, 10:42:51 PM
Good.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: villajk on September 16, 2012, 10:48:29 PM
I think there was a 1 minute silence.

At VP?  There wasn't.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 16, 2012, 10:49:21 PM
I think there was a 1 minute silence.
No not  at VP. I heard or saw nothing before the kick off.
And there is no need for it as no one had died this week or it was not a milestone anniversary of the original event. All we had this week was confirmation of what everyone knew.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on September 17, 2012, 08:11:17 AM
Entertaining enjoyable game! First time for a long time when I haven't been desperate to go home by about 10 minutes into the second half.

Ron Vlaar is a natural captain.

Holman ran himself into the ground.

Benteke did what we have needed Heskey to be capable of doing for several seasons.

Bent made a decent all-round contribution.

Great to see Lambert on the pitch at the end.

Onward and upward!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: MoetVillan on September 17, 2012, 08:57:34 AM
super game, thoroughly enjoyed it, dont want to spend time picking holes in any player, as i dont think they deserve it.  Only blot on the landscape was the potty mouth bloke in front who shouted at Michu, calling him a cheating dago.  I thought Racism had been kicked out of football.   
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on September 17, 2012, 11:35:01 AM
Paul Lambert secured Aston Villa's win of the season over high-flying Swansea, but not without having to make a tactical change to his Aston Villa side at half-time. Barry Bannan had been largely ineffective in a central role in the first half, completing only seven passes, and Aston Villa had no presence on the left of midfield. Lambert switched Bannan to the left wing for the second half, where he created four goalscoring chances and made 15 passes in the final third in a much more effective performance.

Link (http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/statszone/archive/2012/09/17/premier-analysis-spurs-snuff-reading-villa-s-successful-switch-hope-for-southampton-the-new-berbatov.aspx)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on September 17, 2012, 06:10:50 PM
Just had to read the match thread as I was away this weekend, the feel good factor has certainly come back for me!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: gervilla on September 17, 2012, 07:49:16 PM
I think there was a 1 minute silence.

At VP?  There wasn't.

Oops !
I must have dreamt it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 17, 2012, 08:20:48 PM
The disappointing thing about yesterday was attendance. Swansea had a good turn out so 34 k was not good enough. VP does not look impressive  with half empty Trinity and Witton Lane.

Not really its the upper tier wings that are empty so nowhere visual or pitch side
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