it's hard to fully describe how horrible this season has been, but how about the following for some really telling statistics.
Some stats on this season.
18 - goals scored at home
4 - league wins at home
1891 - the last time we won fewer matches at home (and we only played 11 home games that season)
Wolves - the 'list' of teams to win fewer games that us this season
Stoke - the "list" of teams with fewer shots on goal than us this season
Stoke, Swansea - the "list" of teams with fewer shots on target than us this season
Stoke - the "list" of teams with fewer successful passes than us this season.
it's hard to fully describe how horrible this season has been, but how about the following for some really telling statistics.
Some stats on this season.
18 - goals scored at home
4 - league wins at home
1891 - the last time we won fewer matches at home (and we only played 11 home games that season)
Wolves - the 'list' of teams to win fewer games that us this season
Stoke - the "list" of teams with fewer shots on goal than us this season
Stoke, Swansea - the "list" of teams with fewer shots on target than us this season
Stoke - the "list" of teams with fewer successful passes than us this season.
Wrong on this one as well Paulie first you cant get the Bolton points tally correct then you mess up the stats on the 1891 season.
it's hard to fully describe how horrible this season has been, but how about the following for some really telling statistics.
Some stats on this season.
18 - goals scored at home
4 - league wins at home
1891 - the last time we won fewer matches at home (and we only played 11 home games that season)
Wolves - the 'list' of teams to win fewer games that us this season
Stoke - the "list" of teams with fewer shots on goal than us this season
Stoke, Swansea - the "list" of teams with fewer shots on target than us this season
Stoke - the "list" of teams with fewer successful passes than us this season.
We can post up the stats til we're blue in the face but Randy et al clearly could not give a crap They weren't bothered about the stats when they employed him , let's face it
I have said it previously on here along with Wolves were are the worst team I have seen this season we are absolutely dreadful to watch. If I wasn't a Villa fan I would want us to be relegated because we are atrocious. The sooner that fucking moron pisses off the better.
I am absolutely convinced they think he's doing a job.I'm also convinced we're going down.We are atrociousWe can post up the stats til we're blue in the face but Randy et al clearly could not give a crap They weren't bothered about the stats when they employed him , let's face it
I can't believe he can think the season's going ok when you see statistics like that.
I am absolutely convinced they think he's doing a job.I'm also convinced we're going down,we are atrociousWe can post up the stats til we're blue in the face but Randy et al clearly could not give a crap They weren't bothered about the stats when they employed him , let's face it
I can't believe he can think the season's going ok when you see statistics like that.
I am absolutely convinced they think he's doing a job.I'm also convinced we're going down,we are atrociousWe can post up the stats til we're blue in the face but Randy et al clearly could not give a crap They weren't bothered about the stats when they employed him , let's face it
I can't believe he can think the season's going ok when you see statistics like that.
I am absolutely convinced they think he's doing a job.I'm also convinced we're going down,we are atrociousWe can post up the stats til we're blue in the face but Randy et al clearly could not give a crap They weren't bothered about the stats when they employed him , let's face it
I can't believe he can think the season's going ok when you see statistics like that.
The fact the club approached him shows no one in the upper echelons of the club knows anything about football. As such, if he can talk the talk, the manager is probably convincing RL & PF that he is doing a good job.
FergieI am absolutely convinced they think he's doing a job.I'm also convinced we're going down,we are atrociousWe can post up the stats til we're blue in the face but Randy et al clearly could not give a crap They weren't bothered about the stats when they employed him , let's face it
I can't believe he can think the season's going ok when you see statistics like that.
The fact the club approached him shows no one in the upper echelons of the club knows anything about football. As such, if he can talk the talk, the manager is probably convincing RL & PF that he is doing a good job.
If you remember Randy/Faulkner said they took plenty of advice before appointing the present manager....from whom!!
Embarrassing is the word that sums it up. Also there's been no progression or sign that we're going to improve, we've actually got worse.
I still stand by the belief that no one can possibly turn the statistics above, along with a number of others, into anything resembling a mediocre season let alone a good one. Given that I can't imagine the board aren't thinking either he needs backing to replace young, downing, etc or are thinking they need a new manager.The Board i.e Randy wont do anything in the summer because he is skint?
I guess the underlying decision is going to have to be based on how much faith the board have in the squad and youth system. Backing McLeish suggests they think the squad are no better than a relegation fight. Given it's still a very expensively assembled squad I don't see how they can possibly think that.
| Season Pos Manager G W D L F A GD P P/G 11/12 15 McLeish 34 7 15 12 35 48 -13 36 1.06 10/11 9 Houllier 38 12 12 14 48 59 -11 48 1.26 09/10 6 O’Neill 38 17 13 8 52 39 +13 64 1.68 08/09 6 O’Neill 38 17 11 10 54 48 +6 62 1.63 07/08 6 O’Neill 38 16 12 10 71 51 +20 60 1.59 06/07 11 O’Neill 38 11 17 10 43 41 +2 50 1.32 05/06 16 O’Leary 38 10 12 16 42 55 -13 42 1.11 04/05 10 O’Leary 38 12 11 15 45 52 -7 47 1.24 03/04 6 O’Leary 38 15 11 12 48 44 +4 56 1.47 02/03 16 Taylor 38 12 9 17 42 47 -5 45 1.18 01/02 8 Gregory/ Taylor 38 12 14 12 46 47 -1 50 1.32 00/01 8 Gregory 38 13 15 10 46 43 +3 54 1.42 99/00 6 Gregory 38 15 13 10 46 35 +11 58 1.53 98/99 6 Gregory 38 15 10 13 51 46 +5 55 1.45 97/98 7 Little/ Gregory 38 17 6 15 49 48 +1 57 1.5 96/97 5 Little 38 17 10 11 47 34 +13 61 1.61 95/96 4 Little 38 18 9 11 52 35 +17 63 1.66 94/95 18 Atkinson/ Little 42 11 15 16 51 56 -5 48 1.14 93/94 10 Atkinson 42 15 12 15 46 50 -4 57 1.36 92/93 2 Atkinson 42 21 11 10 57 40 17 74 1.76 |
I was going to post something similar, but I'm struggling with tables - perhaps someone could re-post this for me?Worse than O'Leary...... Shit!
Here is our performance over the last twenty years. Although things could obviously change if McLeish manages to magic a win from somewhere, we are on course for our lowest points total, currently having the lowest points per game for that period.
Season Pos Manager G W D L F A GD P P/G
11/12 15 McLeish 34 7 15 12 35 48 -13 36 1.06
10/11 9 Houllier 38 12 12 14 48 59 -11 48 1.26
09/10 6 O’Neill 38 17 13 8 52 39 +13 64 1.68
08/09 6 O’Neill 38 17 11 10 54 48 +6 62 1.63
07/08 6 O’Neill 38 16 12 10 71 51 +20 60 1.59
06/07 11 O’Neill 38 11 17 10 43 41 +2 50 1.32
05/06 16 O’Leary 38 10 12 16 42 55 -13 42 1.11
04/05 10 O’Leary 38 12 11 15 45 52 -7 47 1.24
03/04 6 O’Leary 38 15 11 12 48 44 +4 56 1.47
02/03 16 Taylor 38 12 9 17 42 47 -5 45 1.18
01/02 8 Gregory/ Taylor 38 12 14 12 46 47 -1 50 1.32
00/01 8 Gregory 38 13 15 10 46 43 +3 54 1.42
99/00 6 Gregory 38 15 13 10 46 35 +11 58 1.53
98/99 6 Gregory 38 15 10 13 51 46 +5 55 1.45
97/98 7 Little/ Gregory 38 17 6 15 49 48 +1 57 1.5
96/97 5 Little 38 17 10 11 47 34 +13 61 1.61
95/96 4 Little 38 18 9 11 52 35 +17 63 1.66
94/95 18 Atkinson/ Little 42 11 15 16 51 56 -5 48 1.14
93/94 10 Atkinson 42 15 12 15 46 50 -4 57 1.36
92/93 2 Atkinson 42 21 11 10 57 40 17 74 1.76
The Irish lad - Enda Stevens - is playing at left back for the reserves on a regular basis. I thought he looked ok. My mate John reckons he's a bit shit!I still stand by the belief that no one can possibly turn the statistics above, along with a number of others, into anything resembling a mediocre season let alone a good one. Given that I can't imagine the board aren't thinking either he needs backing to replace young, downing, etc or are thinking they need a new manager.The Board i.e Randy wont do anything in the summer because he is skint?
I guess the underlying decision is going to have to be based on how much faith the board have in the squad and youth system. Backing McLeish suggests they think the squad are no better than a relegation fight. Given it's still a very expensively assembled squad I don't see how they can possibly think that.
We will get a few freebies and a few bosman`s and mix it with the kids
That together with Mcleish next season equals disaster - whatever division we shall be in
Like a lot pf posters on here, I cannot believe the powers that be drive home after every game watching that and seeing the attendance and thinking "Yes, that Mcleish is definitely the man for us"
By the way - does anybody know what happened to that Irish lad we signed in January??
If he had any sense he got the next ferry back!I still stand by the belief that no one can possibly turn the statistics above, along with a number of others, into anything resembling a mediocre season let alone a good one. Given that I can't imagine the board aren't thinking either he needs backing to replace young, downing, etc or are thinking they need a new manager.The Board i.e Randy wont do anything in the summer because he is skint?
I guess the underlying decision is going to have to be based on how much faith the board have in the squad and youth system. Backing McLeish suggests they think the squad are no better than a relegation fight. Given it's still a very expensively assembled squad I don't see how they can possibly think that.
We will get a few freebies and a few bosman`s and mix it with the kids
That together with Mcleish next season equals disaster - whatever division we shall be in
Like a lot pf posters on here, I cannot believe the powers that be drive home after every game watching that and seeing the attendance and thinking "Yes, that Mcleish is definitely the man for us"
By the way - does anybody know what happened to that Irish lad we signed in January??
Can anyone get average attendances over the past 20 years?Look on my football fact.com might be on there.
And I think 4 wins at home and 18 goals scored is exactly what we'll end up on - that's disgraceful.We ARE Aston Villa. We should not be this shit. :(
I have seen us once live this season away from home
I have not travelled once to Villa Park to see us
I have probably watched the highlights of our games on MOTD about four or five times this season
I have not watched us once on Football First
I have probably watched us about three times live on the television
I have not bought one scrap of merchandise from the club this season
And I think 4 wins at home and 18 goals scored is exactly what we'll end up on - that's disgraceful.
At the moment the most damning stats are those of the last 6 games;F**k me!
In that time;
Wigan have won 4
Bolton have won 3
QPR have won 3
Blackburn have won 1
Aston Villa have won 0
We can go through the season stats all we like, and they are appalling, but we need some points now and hope others don't do so well. Judging by these stats we'd be right to be very nervous.
I have seen us once live this season away from home
I have not travelled once to Villa Park to see us
I have probably watched the highlights of our games on MOTD about four or five times this season
I have not watched us once on Football First
I have probably watched us about three times live on the television
I have not bought one scrap of merchandise from the club this season
Sorry. What's your point? If you've lost interest, fair enough. Don't turn apathy into a cause celeb though.
We did have a decent pint at that away game, Richard.I have seen us once live this season away from home
I have not travelled once to Villa Park to see us
I have probably watched the highlights of our games on MOTD about four or five times this season
I have not watched us once on Football First
I have probably watched us about three times live on the television
I have not bought one scrap of merchandise from the club this season
Sorry. What's your point? If you've lost interest, fair enough. Don't turn apathy into a cause celeb though.
They are my stats for the season, that's all. I have no idea otherwise what you are on about. Try not to read so much into people's posts Tom, there are better things to be doing with your life
I have seen us once live this season away from home
I have not travelled once to Villa Park to see us
I have probably watched the highlights of our games on MOTD about four or five times this season
I have not watched us once on Football First
I have probably watched us about three times live on the television
I have not bought one scrap of merchandise from the club this season
Sorry. What's your point? If you've lost interest, fair enough. Don't turn apathy into a cause celeb though.
They are my stats for the season, that's all. I have no idea otherwise what you are on about. Try not to read so much into people's posts Tom, there are better things to be doing with your life
Bookmark this for twelve months time. We will have set the league alight with scintillating performances. Mark my words.
Bookmark this for twelve months time. We will have set the league alight with scintillating performances. Mark my words.
Which league?
Other fans have ceased to take the piss - they pity us - PITY!
Who sang 'Me and my shadow?'
Every stat presented on this thread makes miserable reading. It feels like we've been shot in the stomach and it's taking forever to die. No ambulance in sight either.There are 92 clubs in the 'league' and thousands below. You can't win every game.
Bookmark this for twelve months time. We will have set the league alight with scintillating performances. Mark my words.
Which league?
and which manager?
Every stat presented on this thread makes miserable reading. It feels like we've been shot in the stomach and it's taking forever to die. No ambulance in sight either.There are 92 clubs in the 'league' and thousands below. You can't win every game.
Football is our recreation not our work. Just seen a cracking goal for Middlesbrough on MOTD. Occasionally you get a bit of joy. Nobody has a divine right to it.
Every stat presented on this thread makes miserable reading. It feels like we've been shot in the stomach and it's taking forever to die. No ambulance in sight either.There are 92 clubs in the 'league' and thousands below. You can't win every game.
Football is our recreation not our work. Just seen a cracking goal for Middlesbrough on MOTD. Occasionally you get a bit of joy. Nobody has a divine right to it.
Are you drunk by any chance?
As it happens, no. Try to enjoy the day out, like I do. Take the rough with the smooth.Every stat presented on this thread makes miserable reading. It feels like we've been shot in the stomach and it's taking forever to die. No ambulance in sight either.There are 92 clubs in the 'league' and thousands below. You can't win every game.
Football is our recreation not our work. Just seen a cracking goal for Middlesbrough on MOTD. Occasionally you get a bit of joy. Nobody has a divine right to it.
Are you drunk by any chance?
The fall of the wall or the fall of the city?Every stat presented on this thread makes miserable reading. It feels like we've been shot in the stomach and it's taking forever to die. No ambulance in sight either.There are 92 clubs in the 'league' and thousands below. You can't win every game.
Football is our recreation not our work. Just seen a cracking goal for Middlesbrough on MOTD. Occasionally you get a bit of joy. Nobody has a divine right to it.
Are you drunk by any chance?
It's like the fall of Berlin.
The fall of the wall or the fall of the city?Every stat presented on this thread makes miserable reading. It feels like we've been shot in the stomach and it's taking forever to die. No ambulance in sight either.There are 92 clubs in the 'league' and thousands below. You can't win every game.
Football is our recreation not our work. Just seen a cracking goal for Middlesbrough on MOTD. Occasionally you get a bit of joy. Nobody has a divine right to it.
Are you drunk by any chance?
It's like the fall of Berlin.
Didn't go to that game.The fall of the wall or the fall of the city?Every stat presented on this thread makes miserable reading. It feels like we've been shot in the stomach and it's taking forever to die. No ambulance in sight either.There are 92 clubs in the 'league' and thousands below. You can't win every game.
Football is our recreation not our work. Just seen a cracking goal for Middlesbrough on MOTD. Occasionally you get a bit of joy. Nobody has a divine right to it.
Are you drunk by any chance?
It's like the fall of Berlin.
The fall of the city to the Russians.
As it happens, no. Try to enjoy the day out, like I do. Take the rough with the smooth.Every stat presented on this thread makes miserable reading. It feels like we've been shot in the stomach and it's taking forever to die. No ambulance in sight either.There are 92 clubs in the 'league' and thousands below. You can't win every game.
Football is our recreation not our work. Just seen a cracking goal for Middlesbrough on MOTD. Occasionally you get a bit of joy. Nobody has a divine right to it.
Are you drunk by any chance?
As it happens, no. Try to enjoy the day out, like I do. Take the rough with the smooth.Every stat presented on this thread makes miserable reading. It feels like we've been shot in the stomach and it's taking forever to die. No ambulance in sight either.There are 92 clubs in the 'league' and thousands below. You can't win every game.
Football is our recreation not our work. Just seen a cracking goal for Middlesbrough on MOTD. Occasionally you get a bit of joy. Nobody has a divine right to it.
Are you drunk by any chance?
That's fine, I completely get the enjoying the day out bit, and have managed to do it a few times this season. Pub, mates, good times. But why then do you need to keep up the ridiculous defence of McLeish? If you're out enjoying the day out, why the need to pretend that McLeish isn't anything but a truly dismal manager? There's nothing whatsoever suggests that he's the manager you claim to think he is. It's almost like you're on a big Coopers Injury style wind up.
Didn't go to that game.The fall of the wall or the fall of the city?Every stat presented on this thread makes miserable reading. It feels like we've been shot in the stomach and it's taking forever to die. No ambulance in sight either.There are 92 clubs in the 'league' and thousands below. You can't win every game.
Football is our recreation not our work. Just seen a cracking goal for Middlesbrough on MOTD. Occasionally you get a bit of joy. Nobody has a divine right to it.
Are you drunk by any chance?
It's like the fall of Berlin.
The fall of the city to the Russians.
As it happens, no. Try to enjoy the day out, like I do. Take the rough with the smooth.Every stat presented on this thread makes miserable reading. It feels like we've been shot in the stomach and it's taking forever to die. No ambulance in sight either.There are 92 clubs in the 'league' and thousands below. You can't win every game.
Football is our recreation not our work. Just seen a cracking goal for Middlesbrough on MOTD. Occasionally you get a bit of joy. Nobody has a divine right to it.
Are you drunk by any chance?
That's fine, I completely get the enjoying the day out bit, and have managed to do it a few times this season. Pub, mates, good times. But why then do you need to keep up the ridiculous defence of McLeish? If you're out enjoying the day out, why the need to pretend that McLeish isn't anything but a truly dismal manager? There's nothing whatsoever suggests that he's the manager you claim to think he is. It's almost like you're on a big Coopers Injury style wind up.
There is no doubt that it is a fascinating city.Didn't go to that game.The fall of the wall or the fall of the city?Every stat presented on this thread makes miserable reading. It feels like we've been shot in the stomach and it's taking forever to die. No ambulance in sight either.There are 92 clubs in the 'league' and thousands below. You can't win every game.
Football is our recreation not our work. Just seen a cracking goal for Middlesbrough on MOTD. Occasionally you get a bit of joy. Nobody has a divine right to it.
Are you drunk by any chance?
It's like the fall of Berlin.
The fall of the city to the Russians.
You can watch it on DVD
Absolutely. Just opened up cheap direct flights from Brum too.There is no doubt that it is a fascinating city.Didn't go to that game.The fall of the wall or the fall of the city?Every stat presented on this thread makes miserable reading. It feels like we've been shot in the stomach and it's taking forever to die. No ambulance in sight either.There are 92 clubs in the 'league' and thousands below. You can't win every game.
Football is our recreation not our work. Just seen a cracking goal for Middlesbrough on MOTD. Occasionally you get a bit of joy. Nobody has a divine right to it.
Are you drunk by any chance?
It's like the fall of Berlin.
The fall of the city to the Russians.
You can watch it on DVD
Some good trips there!Bookmark this for twelve months time. We will have set the league alight with scintillating performances. Mark my words.
Which league?
and which manager?
Martin Laursen will be manager and we'll be playing in the Welsh third division.
How many times do we have to say this.Please,oh please can you Mr Lerner just admit you were wrong and we were right.Take it on the chin and get rid of this bloke before you loose any more money.You must by now be wondering where all the supporters have gone,why the profits are non existent and funnily enough,why,(and this one will do you in proper)has not one supporter got McLeish on the back of there shirt?Does that tell you anything?Since i was 16 years old i have followed this club with a passion.Thats 26 sodding years of my life!So while you were living the life of a billionaires son and grandfather i was working at my first job on a golf course,earning shit money and collecting fuckin golf balls to sell to the pro shop so i could go home and away with this glorious club.I spent nights sleeping in my dads shed(he was a wolves fan with no sense of humour,at all) because i got home from away days after 10 oclock at night.Ive lost at least two decent girlfriends and at least three very good jobs going to fu..in Newcastle away on a Monday night-200 f...in quid for the privelage,and many other mid week games.I used to book my bloody holiday days around the Villa games so i could still go home and away.Great times with great people.Would i do it now?Bollox would i.You should have listened to us fans before you made McLeish our manager.With all due respect the bloke has plenty of balls,sell the best players,cut the staff wage bill,no money to spend!He still took the job and you have put him in a total no-win situation,someone to hide behind when it all goes tits up.You are a disgrace Mr Lerner,a bloody disgrace.Please go back to Granddaddys credit card buisness,at least then we expect to get ripped off with your astronomical interest rates and stop fucking about with our club,our heart and soul.We dont have much,us normal people,but we still have our Villa.Go home and destroy your "beloved Cleveland Browns" a bit more.For a buiseness man your are shocking.Sorry for the spelling,it is saturday night!You had the chance to become a legend at Villa Park and you are just throwing it down the drain.Whats all that about?Hero to Zero by design!If things are that bad just sell-up and bugger off.I am sure there are plenty of investors waiting to take over our Great club before the Premier League bubble bursts,and it will.Or you can re-invest and still become a hero.We,as you know,had a chairman before you called Doug Ellis,in my view a great chairman.The club was never in debt and we had our ups and downs.One thing that Doug was never scared of was sacking somebody if they were not getting the results.Ithink the next time you pleasure us with your presence at VillaPark you could do worse than have a word or two with OldDeadly,cause he will put you on the right path.All the best from Lanzarote Villa."Jaigermeister again please Barman!Oh.........Its lush...........
Just taken a breath mate.sorry about the rant,i am just so fu..ed of with the current situation that it makes me wan't to explode.We do not deserve this season at all and it's all down to a wrong decision made by the sodding,CHAIRMAN AND HIS CRONIES!i am breathing now........i think.How many times do we have to say this.Please,oh please can you Mr Lerner just admit you were wrong and we were right.Take it on the chin and get rid of this bloke before you loose any more money.You must by now be wondering where all the supporters have gone,why the profits are non existent and funnily enough,why,(and this one will do you in proper)has not one supporter got McLeish on the back of there shirt?Does that tell you anything?Since i was 16 years old i have followed this club with a passion.Thats 26 sodding years of my life!So while you were living the life of a billionaires son and grandfather i was working at my first job on a golf course,earning shit money and collecting fuckin golf balls to sell to the pro shop so i could go home and away with this glorious club.I spent nights sleeping in my dads shed(he was a wolves fan with no sense of humour,at all) because i got home from away days after 10 oclock at night.Ive lost at least two decent girlfriends and at least three very good jobs going to fu..in Newcastle away on a Monday night-200 f...in quid for the privelage,and many other mid week games.I used to book my bloody holiday days around the Villa games so i could still go home and away.Great times with great people.Would i do it now?Bollox would i.You should have listened to us fans before you made McLeish our manager.With all due respect the bloke has plenty of balls,sell the best players,cut the staff wage bill,no money to spend!He still took the job and you have put him in a total no-win situation,someone to hide behind when it all goes tits up.You are a disgrace Mr Lerner,a bloody disgrace.Please go back to Granddaddys credit card buisness,at least then we expect to get ripped off with your astronomical interest rates and stop fucking about with our club,our heart and soul.We dont have much,us normal people,but we still have our Villa.Go home and destroy your "beloved Cleveland Browns" a bit more.For a buiseness man your are shocking.Sorry for the spelling,it is saturday night!You had the chance to become a legend at Villa Park and you are just throwing it down the drain.Whats all that about?Hero to Zero by design!If things are that bad just sell-up and bugger off.I am sure there are plenty of investors waiting to take over our Great club before the Premier League bubble bursts,and it will.Or you can re-invest and still become a hero.We,as you know,had a chairman before you called Doug Ellis,in my view a great chairman.The club was never in debt and we had our ups and downs.One thing that Doug was never scared of was sacking somebody if they were not getting the results.Ithink the next time you pleasure us with your presence at VillaPark you could do worse than have a word or two with OldDeadly,cause he will put you on the right path.All the best from Lanzarote Villa."Jaigermeister again please Barman!Oh.........Its lush...........
Breathe... breathe.
Can anyone get average attendances over the past 20 years?
Any chance you could hit the space bar after a full stop, and maybe insert the odd paragraph? Sorry to be a grammar Nazi again, but that's incredibly hard to read.You grammer Nazi you.Will try better at school next week,promise,just wait until Tuesday!
Any chance you could hit the space bar after a full stop, and maybe insert the odd paragraph? Sorry to be a grammar Nazi again, but that's incredibly hard to read.You grammer Nazi you.Will try better at school next week,promise,just wait until Tuesday!