is it ok to go and throw up now?Yea, we have been sick all season
Can anybody tell why that we play a right footed winger on the left and a left footed player on the right? This is a serious question I don't get it !!
Nil nil draw, I have nothing else to say!AM will think of that as the perfect result.
Got out of jail, they had a good goal disallowed!
Can anybody tell why that we play a right footed winger on the left and a left footed player on the right? This is a serious question I don't get it !!
so they can attack the full back on their weaker side. When it works as it did with Ash and Downing it is very effective
http://www.eplsite.com/stream2.html
Let's get 'em in singles.
OR....they had an offside goal disallowed for offside.Got out of jail, they had a good goal disallowed!
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http://www.eplsite.com/stream2.html
Thanks for that, really good stream. Shame no goal! Perhaps you could arrange one (preferably for us) next time?
It looked like it was a good goal.OR....they had an offside goal disallowed for offside.Got out of jail, they had a good goal disallowed!
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Simply can not lose Tuesday night , its really tight down there with Blackburn winning.Looking like it's going to go to the last game of the season to see who goes.Win Tuesday and you can consider us safe.
He was off. Only just, but offside nonetheless.It looked like it was a good goal.OR....they had an offside goal disallowed for offside.Got out of jail, they had a good goal disallowed!
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Can anybody tell why that we play a right footed winger on the left and a left footed player on the right? This is a serious question I don't get it !!Thanks It would be nice to know how many goals we have scored from using this system this season It also looks awful when BB and Albrighton keep having to look inside when they get the ball in their own half and clearing the ball straight to the opposition when they could gain extra yards with a bit of "push and run" to take the pressure off us defensively
so they can attack the full back on their weaker side. When it works as it did with Ash and Downing it is very effective
It does not work though at all with these two, has not all season, both end up looking shit and we look tactically stupid. Get them down the propper sides and give them a chance of hitting form. I have not seen either of them play well on the WRONG side!
I must say I was quite impressed with the team's attitude today, actually. One of the things that I had worried about (in amongst the million other things) was that the players wouldn't have enough fight in them. I think they probably do.
Another good showing from the young players too. Weimann, Herd, Lichaj, Baker all look like solid Premier League players to me.
He was off. Only just, but offside nonetheless.It looked like it was a good goal.OR....they had an offside goal disallowed for offside.Got out of jail, they had a good goal disallowed!
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He was off. Only just, but offside nonetheless.It looked like it was a good goal.OR....they had an offside goal disallowed for offside.Got out of jail, they had a good goal disallowed!
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He was offside because the blind linesman gave it! I wonder what you would be saying if it was the other way around!
Seeing the replay Bendtners hand is clearly offside....however it seems harsh to disallow it for it but by the letter of the law is it offside.
Correct...Seeing the replay Bendtners hand is clearly offside....however it seems harsh to disallow it for it but by the letter of the law is it offside.
Isn't it measured by parts of your body which you can score with, though?
If only his hand is offside, he's onside, isn't he?
I was very surprised to see BB come on as our last throw of the dice: with respect to the wee lad, he's not going to be a dramatic game-winner, is he?
They should have put Carruthers on to terrorise O'Shea.
Poor decision-making from McL / PG.
With regards to the offside/onside Bentner goal, was the interpretation of the law changed before a recent World Cup wherein the attacker should get the benefit of the doubt. That’s where all that “clear daylight” bobbins was introduced.
With Bentner there was not “clear daylight” between him and the last defender so I think we were lucky unless they’ve changed the interpretation of the law back to how it was.
With regards to the offside/onside Bentner goal, was the interpretation of the law changed before a recent World Cup wherein the attacker should get the benefit of the doubt. That’s where all that “clear daylight” bobbins was introduced.There has never been a rule about clear daylight in the offside rule. Half his body was closer to our goal line than our second last defender, so he was offside. It really is that simple!
With Bentner there was not “clear daylight” between him and the last defender so I think we were lucky unless they’ve changed the interpretation of the law back to how it was.
With regards to the offside/onside Bentner goal, was the interpretation of the law changed before a recent World Cup wherein the attacker should get the benefit of the doubt. That’s where all that “clear daylight” bobbins was introduced.
With Bentner there was not “clear daylight” between him and the last defender so I think we were lucky unless they’ve changed the interpretation of the law back to how it was.
What about the upper half of his torso and knee? As i say, it was close, but he was off.With regards to the offside/onside Bentner goal, was the interpretation of the law changed before a recent World Cup wherein the attacker should get the benefit of the doubt. That’s where all that “clear daylight” bobbins was introduced.
With Bentner there was not “clear daylight” between him and the last defender so I think we were lucky unless they’ve changed the interpretation of the law back to how it was.
Might of been change as I found this:
Consideration should be given to any part of the head,
body or feet of the attacker in relation to the second
last defender, the ball or the halfway line .
For the purposes of this decision, the arms are not
considered to be part of the body.
Source http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/5.%20law%2011_554.pdf
With regards to the offside/onside Bentner goal, was the interpretation of the law changed before a recent World Cup wherein the attacker should get the benefit of the doubt. That’s where all that “clear daylight” bobbins was introduced.There has never been a rule about clear daylight in the offside rule. Half his body was closer to our goal line than our second last defender, so he was offside. It really is that simple!
With Bentner there was not “clear daylight” between him and the last defender so I think we were lucky unless they’ve changed the interpretation of the law back to how it was.
With regards to the offside/onside Bentner goal, was the interpretation of the law changed before a recent World Cup wherein the attacker should get the benefit of the doubt. That’s where all that “clear daylight” bobbins was introduced.
With Bentner there was not “clear daylight” between him and the last defender so I think we were lucky unless they’ve changed the interpretation of the law back to how it was.
Best you can say is it would have been an "iffy" decision either way. Or in other words, if it had been United, Chelsea Liverpool etc., rather than sunderland they probably would have been given the benefit of the doubt.
With regards to the offside/onside Bentner goal, was the interpretation of the law changed before a recent World Cup wherein the attacker should get the benefit of the doubt. That’s where all that “clear daylight” bobbins was introduced.
With Bentner there was not “clear daylight” between him and the last defender so I think we were lucky unless they’ve changed the interpretation of the law back to how it was.
It has changed. It's now something like if any part of the attacker's body that can legally score a goal is goalside of (effectively) the last defender. It was still offside though from what I could see. Although to be fair, I did have my matchday specs on.
Sunderland did a good job of closing us down and Sessegnon is a good player. Fat lot of good that will do them when MON moves him to right back.
There was no lack of effort from our lads, but not much composure either. Once again it was the younger players who were prominent, plus Heskey - who at a rough guess ha yet to receive a contract offer from anywhere.
The starting best four is the best we have, going 4-4-2 does leave us exposed in central midfield. I'd be happy with a Ron Saunders like formation on Tuesday, 3 in central midfield, two strikers (Heskey partnering Weimann) and just the one wide player.
Heskey impressed me.Impressing his new manager,I hope
Heskey impressed me.Why, did he fall over on you?
Heskey impressed me.Fully agree. He was prob the only senior player who did ok at VP today.
My god that was fucking dull, we really are poor. The end of the season can't come quick enough
My god that was fucking dull, we really are poor. The end of the season can't come quick enough
but then what ?? you cant even look forward to the next one
WM say that Lerner wasn't in attendance.
Why the **** did fans boo Gardner? He was our youth. The fact he played for blues was not his decision. We sold him even though he didn't ask for a move.
Why the **** did fans boo Gardner? He was our youth. The fact he played for blues was not his decision. We sold him even though he didn't ask for a move.
Wiemann MOTM says it all really what a player in the making!Personally I thought Herd was MotM.
Why the **** did fans boo Gardner? He was our youth. The fact he played for blues was not his decision. We sold him even though he didn't ask for a move.
it's what happens when you come up through our ranks, give everyone the impression that be is a Villa boy only then to be kissing and thumping their badge and proclaiming love for that lot as soon he signed for them.
Why the **** did fans boo Gardner? He was our youth. The fact he played for blues was not his decision. We sold him even though he didn't ask for a move.
Didn't he say how much he'd love to beat Villa after he moved? Or something to that effect? I may have dreamt it.
Why the **** did fans boo Gardner? He was our youth. The fact he played for blues was not his decision. We sold him even though he didn't ask for a move.
Didn't he say how much he'd love to beat Villa after he moved? Or something to that effect? I may have dreamt it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/birmingham-city/8099359/Aston-Villa-v-Birmingham-City-Craig-Gardner-sets-tone-for-demolition-derby.html
Why the **** did fans boo Gardner? He was our youth. The fact he played for blues was not his decision. We sold him even though he didn't ask for a move.Kissing the Blose badge doesn't help his cause, also 'always been a bluenose'
It doesnt slag us off though , it says he wants the team he is playing for to be the top team no harm really ?
It doesnt slag us off though , it says he wants the team he is playing for to be the top team no harm really ?
I see what you mean, but considering he came through our Academy and was considered a Villa fan by some, is that not a bit ...mouthy? For want of a better word. Personally I don't really care either way, he had a good game today, but I can see why he got booed by some.
No one likes a 'Nose, but everyone hates a liar.
The stewards took a banner down after the game in the Holte, they were on it like a shot!No one likes a 'Nose, but everyone hates a liar.
Definite banner potential.
I really couldn't careless for this MON return issue I am hoping for a 0-0 win today.
Don't be such a pussy.
why wasnt the goalie sent off for handling the ball outside the penalty area...........That was a shocking decision. Refs n general have been shit recently
why wasnt the goalie sent off for handling the ball outside the penalty area...........That was a shocking decision. Refs n general have been shit recently
why wasnt the goalie sent off for handling the ball outside the penalty area...........That was a shocking decision. Refs n general have been shit recently
On what basis should he have been? For me the goalscoring opportunity stopped when he first handled the ball. This was in the area so okay. After that he slid outside the box = deliberate handball. Which I think should be a yellow card only.
I don't thnk it was shocking.why wasnt the goalie sent off for handling the ball outside the penalty area...........That was a shocking decision. Refs n general have been shit recently
Can anyone confirm what our tactics are? We do often seem to have a decent start, then drift badly. This leads me to believe that we push for an early goal, which we then aim to defend until the end of the game. If we don't score, it seems to be a 'make it up as you go along' approach.The manager doesn't know,what chance have we got?
Wiemann MOTM says it all really what a player in the making!Personally I thought Herd was MotM.
But there were good performances from plenty of players. We just haven't got that cutting edge at the moment.
When Albrighton learns to cross properly and N'Zogbia stops running into cul de sac's we might have a decent attacking threat.
I don't agree with those saying Ireland had a really good game. I'm still not sure that he is that effective in central midfield and think he is much better in the "hole".
Offside was the correct decision I think. He looked offside to me even though the replay was from a sympathetic camera angle.
I don't agree with those saying Ireland had a really good game. I'm still not sure that he is that effective in central midfield and think he is much better in the "hole".
I thought he did okay today, some good through balls and clearance off the line at least justified his inclusion.
I strongly agree that he is better playing in the “hole” as his biggest skill is finding space between the lines of midfield and attack. He is not really able to do this in a 442 as it’d leave the centre exposed.
Never even began to think we could win it but we worked our socks off not to lose it our problem is the teams below us are grinding out wins when we can at best pick up draws, lose to Bolton and I think we are sunk, came away from the ground feeling we are nearly there but the QPR win has shook me.
Oh goodie, now QPR have won. When the chips are down, almost all of our rivals can be relied on to pull a result out of the bag. The five teams below us have all won plenty of games over the past few weeks. The best we can muster are fucking stalemates. Sheer ineptitude.Spot on comment
Regarding the game, Cuellar had McLean in his back pocket for the first half despite playing out of position (he's been put there so often that maybe right back is his actual position now, no? Didn't Percy argue this about Mellberg before or summat?). Hutton struggled against McLean big-time in the second half when Carlos switched to the centre.
N'Zogbia is like a headless chicken. Plenty of dangerous running but he rarely looks up.
Albrighton worked tirelessly but his crosses just weren't up to scratch. Can we not try playing these wingers on like, their better sides? An awful habit Marc has is of doing some diligent defending and then almost without fail every time clearing the ball straight to an opposition's player.
Oh and I've just seen O'Neill's interview on Sky. He was asked a few Villa related questions and couldn't resist getting in a bit more self-preservation. He dismissed the notion that he left us in the lurch by saying ''They didn't do too badly winning two out of their first three games after I left'' and how he'd inherited a side who had narrowly avoided relegation and turned them into the best counter-attacking side in the country after ManUre.
Well, it's widely accepted that O'Dreary underachieved hugely in his last season and you had millions upon millions to spunk on whoever you wanted, Mart, so don't big yourself up too much.
I must be mad, but I quite enjoyed the game today.
I've certainly seen us look worse. Admittedly, Sunderland were pretty rubbish.
I think all our standards have, haven't they?I must be mad, but I quite enjoyed the game today.
I've certainly seen us look worse. Admittedly, Sunderland were pretty rubbish.
My word dave your standards have slipped dramatically !
There is absolutely no enjoyment going to the matches any more.Pretty much this.
The team is clueless - and cannot do even the basic things right.
Pass and move ? Support the player with the ball ? Show for the ball to make the pass easier ? Put someone on the back post / far side of the area at corners ?
Even if we survive this year- by the skin of our teeth - we will be certs to go down next year.
I must be mad, but I quite enjoyed the game today.
I've certainly seen us look worse. Admittedly, Sunderland were pretty rubbish.
It's just what managers do. Our manager says that we go out to win games.I must be mad, but I quite enjoyed the game today.
I've certainly seen us look worse. Admittedly, Sunderland were pretty rubbish.
It was certainly exciting at times but perhaps for the wrong reason - our precarious position in the table!
The O'Neill element added some spice but heard him on 5live on the way home say that Sunderland should have scored six!
Where did he get that from?
We played a bit better than we have done, but once again we did'nt look scoring. Throwing Bannan on towards the end did'nt make any sense whatsoever. It was almost a 'let's take the point' type of sub.
As for MOTM, i thought Herd was great.
Felt Bannan was the wrong sub would of brought on Carruthers myself.Great minds and all that if you read my earlier post!
Heskey did ok one great move to set up Weimann ,though felt Heskey himself should have gone on towards goal.
It's just what managers do. Our manager says that we go out to win games.I must be mad, but I quite enjoyed the game today.
I've certainly seen us look worse. Admittedly, Sunderland were pretty rubbish.
It was certainly exciting at times but perhaps for the wrong reason - our precarious position in the table!
The O'Neill element added some spice but heard him on 5live on the way home say that Sunderland should have scored six!
Where did he get that from?
They're both wrong.
A fantastic result.......For Sir Alex 2, he'll be chuffed with it.You wont fall foul mate.Everybody is saying the same.Fuck him off,now!
At risk of repetition and falling foul of this site, he's a dreadful Manager who is strangling the very soul of our club.
I don't care if Faulkner approves or not, the bloke is a prick and has to go.
I start every game trying to be positive and supportive of him but he has a tendency to let me down every time!A fantastic result.......For Sir Alex 2, he'll be chuffed with it.You wont fall foul mate.Everybody is saying the same.Fuck him off,now!
At risk of repetition and falling foul of this site, he's a dreadful Manager who is strangling the very soul of our club.
I don't care if Faulkner approves or not, the bloke is a prick and has to go.
Bolton game: sub 30k gate?
It's a massive game,and we will probably f..k it up and make the game after that THE MOST IMPORTANT GAME OF THE SEASON.Then it will be to late and we will be proper fu..ed!Bolton game: sub 30k gate?
It's now the biggest game of our season!
I must be mad, but I quite enjoyed the game today.
I've certainly seen us look worse. Admittedly, Sunderland were pretty rubbish.
Bolton game: sub 30k gate?26'543
Bolton game: sub 30k gate?26'543
That's if they can be all arsed to go and watch another dross performance and bolton will only bring around 500-700.Bolton game: sub 30k gate?26'543
Fu**ing hell, is that all!! I reckon you might be about right.
It's a massive game,and we will probably f..k it up and make the game after that THE MOST IMPORTANT GAME OF THE SEASON.Then it will be to late and we will be proper fu..ed!Bolton game: sub 30k gate?
It's now the biggest game of our season!
I must be mad, but I quite enjoyed the game today.
I've certainly seen us look worse. Admittedly, Sunderland were pretty rubbish.
Agreed. Thought we were lucky at times, plus seeing a successful goal line clearance for a change was a positive.
Supported the club for over 40 years, am totally bored now, prefer watching the lad play his footy on Saturday afternoons. Mcleish should be relieved of his duties tomorrow am and MacDonald and Syd take over till the end of the season. Fecking disgrace what he has done. I can understand we are not as good as a few seasons back, but cannot accept the shite football and nothing to do with the fact where the manager was before, he is just cluelessSacked in the morning sounds good to me.Good riddance to bad shite.I will be watching sky sports news in the morning to see if anything happens.Fingers crossed eh Luton.
Supported the club for over 40 years, am totally bored now, prefer watching the lad play his footy on Saturday afternoons. Mcleish should be relieved of his duties tomorrow am and MacDonald and Syd take over till the end of the season. Fecking disgrace what he has done. I can understand we are not as good as a few seasons back, but cannot accept the shite football and nothing to do with the fact where the manager was before, he is just cluelessSacked in the morning sounds good to me.Good riddance to bad shite.I will be watching sky sports news in the morning to see if anything happens.Fingers crossed eh Luton.
Bolton game: sub 30k gate?26'543
Supported the club for over 40 years, am totally bored now, prefer watching the lad play his footy on Saturday afternoons. Mcleish should be relieved of his duties tomorrow am and MacDonald and Syd take over till the end of the season. Fecking disgrace what he has done. I can understand we are not as good as a few seasons back, but cannot accept the shite football and nothing to do with the fact where the manager was before, he is just cluelessSacked in the morning sounds good to me.Good riddance to bad shite.I will be watching sky sports news in the morning to see if anything happens.Fingers crossed eh Luton.
I will be in sexual relations with Kelly Brook when that happens :(
Was today one of our cup finals? What motivational methods does he use? The younger players have all regressed the longer they have played under McLeish.
By about 3,000 at a guess.Bolton game: sub 30k gate?26'543
Anyone else think the announced gate today was a little high for the actual number of people there?
Was today one of our cup finals? What motivational methods does he use? The younger players have all regressed the longer they have played under McLeish.Yes.
Lucky fu..er!Supported the club for over 40 years, am totally bored now, prefer watching the lad play his footy on Saturday afternoons. Mcleish should be relieved of his duties tomorrow am and MacDonald and Syd take over till the end of the season. Fecking disgrace what he has done. I can understand we are not as good as a few seasons back, but cannot accept the shite football and nothing to do with the fact where the manager was before, he is just cluelessSacked in the morning sounds good to me.Good riddance to bad shite.I will be watching sky sports news in the morning to see if anything happens.Fingers crossed eh Luton.
I will be in sexual relations with Kelly Brook when that happens :(
Supported the club for over 40 years, am totally bored now, prefer watching the lad play his footy on Saturday afternoons. Mcleish should be relieved of his duties tomorrow am and MacDonald and Syd take over till the end of the season. Fecking disgrace what he has done. I can understand we are not as good as a few seasons back, but cannot accept the shite football and nothing to do with the fact where the manager was before, he is just cluelessSacked in the morning sounds good to me.Good riddance to bad shite.I will be watching sky sports news in the morning to see if anything happens.Fingers crossed eh Luton.
I will be in sexual relations with Kelly Brook when that happens :(
with kelly brooks family ? :P
Possible exception: Herd?Was today one of our cup finals? What motivational methods does he use? The younger players have all regressed the longer they have played under McLeish.
Have they?
Possible exception: Herd?Was today one of our cup finals? What motivational methods does he use? The younger players have all regressed the longer they have played under McLeish.
Have they?
Just got back. So predictable. Cuellar's haircut the highlight of the day.
AlbrightonPossible exception: Herd?Was today one of our cup finals? What motivational methods does he use? The younger players have all regressed the longer they have played under McLeish.
Have they?
Who has regressed?
Sad fact of the day. Des Bremner walking past and virtually no one knowing who he was.
I'd forgotten about Fonz and Delph.
Does that count as regression?
Very true!I'd forgotten about Fonz and Delph.
Does that count as regression?
Not really as they look the same as they did last season.
Albrighton: Showing the same form he did for the latter half of last season.
Bannan: Same Bannan as last season.
Gardner: Give the kid a chance. He's played what, 6 games and you expect him to running games?
Lichaj: Improved on last season.
Herd: Improved on last season.
Clark: looked fine until he got injured.
In addition:
Weimann looking fully at home in the league. Baker looking decent.
Not much regression there IMO.
I'd forgotten about Fonz and Delph.
Does that count as regression?
Not really as they look the same as they did last season.
Sad fact of the day. Des Bremner walking past and virtually no one knowing who he was.Thats because ,i think,that we oldies live to much in the past and the new Villa have little or no connection with our glory times.Shame i know cause every youngster who comes to Villa should watch our game against Bayern and the clips from MOTD when we won the leagueand the Super Cup win.They might then have some idea how far we have fallen,dont you think?
Albrighton: Showing the same form he did for the latter half of last season.
Bannan: Same Bannan as last season.
Gardner: Give the kid a chance. He's played what, 6 games and you expect him to running games?
Lichaj: Improved on last season.
Herd: Improved on last season.
Clark: looked fine until he got injured.
In addition:
Weimann looking fully at home in the league. Baker looking decent.
Not much regression there IMO.
Albrighton gone backwards, Clark not gone anywhere, Bannan backwards, first team players all gone backwards. The youngsters would be better under MacDonald
Offside or not, how the hell did Mignolet not even get booked after being done for handling outside the area?I didn't think it was a yellow card. He went whole heartedly for the ball caught the ball inside the area tried to stay inbound but his momentum took him just over. A free kick was all that was required.
Albrighton: Showing the same form he did for the latter half of last season.I don't expect Gardner to be running games. He'd been head and shoulders above everyone, opposition included, for the reserves. He's a real athlete - tall, strong and authoritative on the field. I've been advocating his promotion to the 1st team all season. I didn't expect him to run games - he's not experienced enough - I just expected to see a few sparks of promise and creativity that we so lack. I'm therefore disappointed for him and me/us. I suppose I am assuming that AM has taken a very " natural" footballer and told him not to do what he is actually very good at.
Bannan: Same Bannan as last season.
Gardner: Give the kid a chance. He's played what, 6 games and you expect him to running games?
Lichaj: Improved on last season.
Herd: Improved on last season.
Clark: looked fine until he got injured.
In addition:
Weimann looking fully at home in the league. Baker looking decent.
Not much regression there IMO.
Let's be honest, our wingers haven't delivered all season so for Bolton we should just play very narrow and fuck it forward to Heskey as much as we can and feed off him. We don't create jack shit with wide players, lets get it in the box and have a few goal mouth scrambles.
-----------------------Given----------------------
----Hutton----Cuellar----Baker-----Lihaj----
-------Gardner------Herd-----Bannan--------
-----------------------Ireland--------------------
-----------Heskey------Weimman-------------
Let's be honest, our wingers haven't delivered all season so for Bolton we should just play very narrow and fuck it forward to Heskey as much as we can and feed off him. We don't create jack shit with wide players, lets get it in the box and have a few goal mouth scrambles.Agreed.
-----------------------Given----------------------
----Hutton----Cuellar----Baker-----Lihaj----
-------Gardner------Herd-----Bannan--------
-----------------------Ireland--------------------
-----------Heskey------Weimman-------------
Spot on!Albrighton: Showing the same form he did for the latter half of last season.I don't expect Gardner to be running games. He'd been head and shoulders above everyone, opposition included, for the reserves. He's a real athlete - tall, strong and authoritative on the field. I've been advocating his promotion to the 1st team all season. I didn't expect him to run games - he's not experienced enough - I just expected to see a few sparks of promise and creativity that we so lack. I'm therefore disappointed for him and me/us. I suppose I am assuming that AM has taken a very " natural" footballer and told him not to do what he is actually very good at.
Bannan: Same Bannan as last season.
Gardner: Give the kid a chance. He's played what, 6 games and you expect him to running games?
Lichaj: Improved on last season.
Herd: Improved on last season.
Clark: looked fine until he got injured.
In addition:
Weimann looking fully at home in the league. Baker looking decent.
Not much regression there IMO.
I'd be tempted to give Carruthers a start before the end of the season.Hear hear!
Albrighton: Showing the same form he did for the latter half of last season.I don't expect Gardner to be running games. He'd been head and shoulders above everyone, opposition included, for the reserves. He's a real athlete - tall, strong and authoritative on the field. I've been advocating his promotion to the 1st team all season. I didn't expect him to run games - he's not experienced enough - I just expected to see a few sparks of promise and creativity that we so lack. I'm therefore disappointed for him and me/us. I suppose I am assuming that AM has taken a very " natural" footballer and told him not to do what he is actually very good at.
Bannan: Same Bannan as last season.
Gardner: Give the kid a chance. He's played what, 6 games and you expect him to running games?
Lichaj: Improved on last season.
Herd: Improved on last season.
Clark: looked fine until he got injured.
In addition:
Weimann looking fully at home in the league. Baker looking decent.
Not much regression there IMO.
Albrighton: Showing the same form he did for the latter half of last season.I don't expect Gardner to be running games. He'd been head and shoulders above everyone, opposition included, for the reserves. He's a real athlete - tall, strong and authoritative on the field. I've been advocating his promotion to the 1st team all season. I didn't expect him to run games - he's not experienced enough - I just expected to see a few sparks of promise and creativity that we so lack. I'm therefore disappointed for him and me/us. I suppose I am assuming that AM has taken a very " natural" footballer and told him not to do what he is actually very good at.
Bannan: Same Bannan as last season.
Gardner: Give the kid a chance. He's played what, 6 games and you expect him to running games?
Lichaj: Improved on last season.
Herd: Improved on last season.
Clark: looked fine until he got injured.
In addition:
Weimann looking fully at home in the league. Baker looking decent.
Not much regression there IMO.
Maybe he's just finding the step up harder than we expected?
He is playing in a struggling team, give the lad a chanceI am. Perhaps if you read what I've said you'd see that.
Let's be honest, our wingers haven't delivered all season so for Bolton we should just play very narrow and fuck it forward to Heskey as much as we can and feed off him. We don't create jack shit with wide players, lets get it in the box and have a few goal mouth scrambles.Agreed.
-----------------------Given----------------------
----Frankmosswasmyuncle----Cuellar----Baker-----Lihaj----
-------Gardner------Herd-----Bannan--------
-----------------------Ireland--------------------
-----------Heskey------Weimman-------------
This looks fine to me, except for the Hutton factor!
I'm available to replace him even though Tuesday is my pension day and I'm usually well pi**ed by KO time. A bit like Hutton is!
Great!Let's be honest, our wingers haven't delivered all season so for Bolton we should just play very narrow and fuck it forward to Heskey as much as we can and feed off him. We don't create jack shit with wide players, lets get it in the box and have a few goal mouth scrambles.Agreed.
-----------------------Given----------------------
----Frankmosswasmyuncle----Cuellar----Baker-----Lihaj----
-------Gardner------Herd-----Bannan--------
-----------------------Ireland--------------------
-----------Heskey------Weimman-------------
This looks fine to me, except for the Hutton factor!
I'm available to replace him even though Tuesday is my pension day and I'm usually well pi**ed by KO time. A bit like Hutton is!
That ok?
Bolton game: sub 30k gate?
Great!Let's be honest, our wingers haven't delivered all season so for Bolton we should just play very narrow and fuck it forward to Heskey as much as we can and feed off him. We don't create jack shit with wide players, lets get it in the box and have a few goal mouth scrambles.Agreed.
-----------------------Given----------------------
----Frankmosswasmyuncle----Cuellar----Baker-----Lihaj----
-------Gardner------Herd-----Bannan--------
-----------------------Ireland--------------------
-----------Heskey------Weimman-------------
This looks fine to me, except for the Hutton factor!
I'm available to replace him even though Tuesday is my pension day and I'm usually well pi**ed by KO time. A bit like Hutton is!
That ok?
But - do I have to run around very much?
I can kick the ball very hard but not necessarily in the "right" direction.
I also have a tendency to lose my balance and bumble/stumble into people.
Ohhhh. I see now what you've done there!
I am the perfect replacement!
Agreed.Bolton game: sub 30k gate?
I hope it's a full house. You can hate the manager all you want but surely if you love the club then people will be there. I know the flip side of winning the game is that it secures McLeish's future, at least for now. But the potential alternative isn't what anyone should ever want.
Great!Let's be honest, our wingers haven't delivered all season so for Bolton we should just play very narrow and fuck it forward to Heskey as much as we can and feed off him. We don't create jack shit with wide players, lets get it in the box and have a few goal mouth scrambles.Agreed.
-----------------------Given----------------------
----Frankmosswasmyuncle----Cuellar----Baker-----Lihaj----
-------Gardner------Herd-----Bannan--------
-----------------------Ireland--------------------
-----------Heskey------Weimman-------------
This looks fine to me, except for the Hutton factor!
I'm available to replace him even though Tuesday is my pension day and I'm usually well pi**ed by KO time. A bit like Hutton is!
That ok?
But - do I have to run around very much?
I can kick the ball very hard but not necessarily in the "right" direction.
I also have a tendency to lose my balance and bumble/stumble into people.
Ohhhh. I see now what you've done there!
I am the perfect replacement!
Surely you'll be playing for them though Nigel on Tuesday evening?
Baker has done nothing to deserve being dropped at all.
Just watched Match of the Day. We got away with that one alright.
Baker has done nothing to deserve being dropped at all.
On the basis of today, definitely not. But he was at fault for the second goal at Man Utd and he was horrendous against Chelsea.
Bolton is potentially the most important game we've had since the Carling Cup final. We absolutely can not afford to lose. Cuellar has to be at centre half for me (and I don't rate Baker at all at left back).
Just watched Match of the Day. We got away with that one alright.No we didnt. We were the better team in the first half and also dominated the play for the first 15 mins of second. Not seen motd but I suggest they have edited it to show the more clear cut chances monderland had.
Just watched Match of the Day. We got away with that one alright.No we didnt. We were the better team in the first half and also dominated the play for the first 15 mins of second. Not seen motd but I suggest they have edited it to show the more clear cut chances monderland had.
Incorrectly disallowed? His arm was offside. I've seen that enough to be offside in the past so why not now? The pundits on MoTD seemed to be ignoring this fact.You cant be offside if you arm is further forward, as you cant legallly score a goal with the arm...as i put earlier, in the opinion of the A/R the torso was further forward hence the flag for offside.
And why was their keeper not sent off for handball? Has that particular rule changed now?
The kids, as promising as they are, are going to get us relegated.
I'd bring in Heskey for Gabby, Clark for Albrighton and Warnock for Baker.
It's such a big game. Gabby is woefully out of form, Clark is calm and Baker and Albrighton are too erratic.Given
Lichaj - Cuellar - Collins - Warnock
Herd - Clark
Ireland
N'Zogbia - Heskey - Weimann
It's a physically strong, tall side.
If it's not going well it leaves us with Gabby, Albrighton and Bannan as impact substitutes too.
Too often are we left with nothing on the bench to change it.
Unfortunately the reality is we tested their goalie once or maybe twice. They had a goal incorrectly disallowed and had one cleared off the line, we did get away with it.
The kids, as promising as they are, are going to get us relegated.
I'd bring in Heskey for Gabby, Clark for Albrighton and Warnock for Baker.
It's such a big game. Gabby is woefully out of form, Clark is calm and Baker and Albrighton are too erratic.Given
Lichaj - Cuellar - Collins - Warnock
Herd - Clark
Ireland
N'Zogbia - Heskey - Weimann
It's a physically strong, tall side.
If it's not going well it leaves us with Gabby, Albrighton and Bannan as impact substitutes too.
Too often are we left with nothing on the bench to change it.
What struck me Monty was how defenders with the ball at their feet and the opposition nowhere near them still look uncomfortable. I could give AM some leeway with all the injuries we've got but he has failed badly all season to put any cohesion into the side, the brand of football we are playing is the worst i've seen from a Villa side in many a year, Heskey whan he came on looked accomplished thats how bad the rest were, and Albrighton who when he first came into the senior side looked as if he could become a player is plainly like many of our youngsters not good enough for the premiership.
It could be a lot worse guys....spare a thought for Coventry city supporters tonight.
I just did and I'm still laughing!!
Why would you play either BB or GG on the wing? - they are central MF! Don't get seduced into making the same mistakes as McL makes: if you want a right winger, play either Albie or Carruthers.
I'd stick with CNZ on THE LEFT PLEASE and then it's a bit of an unsatisfactory choice between Albrighton, Bannan and Gardner for the other wing.
Supported the club for over 40 years, am totally bored now, prefer watching the lad play his footy on Saturday afternoons. Mcleish should be relieved of his duties tomorrow am and MacDonald and Syd take over till the end of the season. Fecking disgrace what he has done. I can understand we are not as good as a few seasons back, but cannot accept the shite football and nothing to do with the fact where the manager was before, he is just cluelessSacked in the morning sounds good to me.Good riddance to bad shite.I will be watching sky sports news in the morning to see if anything happens.Fingers crossed eh Luton.
I will be in sexual relations with Kelly Brook when that happens :(
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Don't tell me - she wasn't in bed with you this morning as you awoke?
I really not sure blooding a promising, but lightweight, player like Carruthers is a good idea for the Bolton game.
And, of course, we've never been on the end of a dodgey descision!!It looked like it was a good goal.OR....they had an offside goal disallowed for offside.Got out of jail, they had a good goal disallowed!
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Tend to agree, but, if AMcL picks that line up he'd be accused of picking a defensive team.The kids, as promising as they are, are going to get us relegated.
I'd bring in Heskey for Gabby, Clark for Albrighton and Warnock for Baker.
It's such a big game. Gabby is woefully out of form, Clark is calm and Baker and Albrighton are too erratic.Given
Lichaj - Cuellar - Collins - Warnock
Herd - Clark
Ireland
N'Zogbia - Heskey - Weimann
It's a physically strong, tall side.
If it's not going well it leaves us with Gabby, Albrighton and Bannan as impact substitutes too.
Too often are we left with nothing on the bench to change it.
I think this is more likely - with not much left on the bench to choose from.Given
Hutton - Cuellar - Baker - Lichaj
Herd - Clark
Ireland
N'Zogbia - Heskey - Weimann
Incorrectly disallowed? His arm was offside. I've seen that enough to be offside in the past so why not now? The pundits on MoTD seemed to be ignoring this fact.I agree, I feel that some poster are so used to moaning now that they just can't help it ;D
And why was their keeper not sent off for handball? Has that particular rule changed now?
I've started to think that a point against Bolton would be a pretty good result. I'd call Childline, except I'm 41 this year.
Incorrectly disallowed? His arm was offside. I've seen that enough to be offside in the past so why not now? The pundits on MoTD seemed to be ignoring this fact.I agree, I feel that some poster are so used to moaning now that they just can't help it ;D
And why was their keeper not sent off for handball? Has that particular rule changed now?
Reading some of these posts, it's as if some wanted us to lose. I mentioned it before, and others have too, we've been on the end of worse.
Terry on Gabby which ultimately led to their 3rd is the freshest.
Yes, I felt their Keeper could have gone, it would have been pretty harsh though.
It was a cautionable offence tho, a deliberate trip to stop an attack devoloping...The refs cant use common sense as players dont...And, of course, we've never been on the end of a dodgey descision!!It looked like it was a good goal.OR....they had an offside goal disallowed for offside.Got out of jail, they had a good goal disallowed!
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From where I'm sat, in the family stand, I was pretty much in line and thought it was offside, The linesman probably had my view, all be it from the other side.
On MotD I wasn't so sure, 50-50, but, so flippin what, it's about time something went our way.
It would have been rough to take had we lost.
Would like to add:
Nice touch with the t-shirt Craig. Yes 2 bookable offences but, IMO, neither were malicious. Thought the ref should have used a bit of common sense as it was the last 30 seconds of what was a pretty clean game.
It was never a red card, it wasnt denying a goal-scoring opportunity.Incorrectly disallowed? His arm was offside. I've seen that enough to be offside in the past so why not now? The pundits on MoTD seemed to be ignoring this fact.I agree, I feel that some poster are so used to moaning now that they just can't help it ;D
And why was their keeper not sent off for handball? Has that particular rule changed now?
Reading some of these posts, it's as if some wanted us to lose. I mentioned it before, and others have too, we've been on the end of worse.
Terry on Gabby which ultimately led to their 3rd is the freshest.
Yes, I felt their Keeper could have gone, it would have been pretty harsh though.
If a Premier League ref applies common sense over the letter of the law he doesn't stay a Premier League ref very long.Common sense doesnt appear in the laws of the game. The ref has to apply the laws...Whilest Gardners 2nd yellow wasnt a bad tackle, he knew what he was doing..Albrighton would have been away with a counter attack, Gardner wasnt playing the ball, but he made sure Marc and the ball werent going past him...why should refs show common sense, when players generally dont?
That's why I only said 'Could have gone' dave, as I'm sure there's a fool of a ref who would have sent him off!It was never a red card, it wasnt denying a goal-scoring opportunity.Incorrectly disallowed? His arm was offside. I've seen that enough to be offside in the past so why not now? The pundits on MoTD seemed to be ignoring this fact.I agree, I feel that some poster are so used to moaning now that they just can't help it ;D
And why was their keeper not sent off for handball? Has that particular rule changed now?
Reading some of these posts, it's as if some wanted us to lose. I mentioned it before, and others have too, we've been on the end of worse.
Terry on Gabby which ultimately led to their 3rd is the freshest.
Yes, I felt their Keeper could have gone, it would have been pretty harsh though.
I know you're right dave, I'm just a bit of a softy at times :-[It was a cautionable offence tho, a deliberate trip to stop an attack devoloping...The refs cant use common sense as players dont...And, of course, we've never been on the end of a dodgey descision!!It looked like it was a good goal.OR....they had an offside goal disallowed for offside.Got out of jail, they had a good goal disallowed!
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From where I'm sat, in the family stand, I was pretty much in line and thought it was offside, The linesman probably had my view, all be it from the other side.
On MotD I wasn't so sure, 50-50, but, so flippin what, it's about time something went our way.
It would have been rough to take had we lost.
Would like to add:
Nice touch with the t-shirt Craig. Yes 2 bookable offences but, IMO, neither were malicious. Thought the ref should have used a bit of common sense as it was the last 30 seconds of what was a pretty clean game.
Who took the captain's armband when Gabby went off? Presumably we're down to our 4th choice captain tomorrow.Think it was Stephen Ireland
Who took the captain's armband when Gabby went off? Presumably we're down to our 4th choice captain tomorrow.Carlos