Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread

[villan from luton]

Albrighton: Showing the same form he did for the latter half of last season.
Bannan: Same Bannan as last season.
Gardner: Give the kid a chance. He's played what, 6 games and you expect him to running games?
Lichaj: Improved on last season.
Herd: Improved on last season.
Clark: looked fine until he got injured.
In addition:
Weimann looking fully at home in the league. Baker looking decent.

Not much regression there IMO.

Albrighton gone backwards, Clark not gone anywhere, Bannan backwards, first team players all gone backwards. The youngsters would be better under MacDonald

[Somniloquism]

I'd forgotten about Fonz and Delph.
Does that count as regression?

Not really as they look the same as they did last season.

Well he ruined Jenas, this season he has been injury prone and missed most of the season.

[danlanza]

Sad fact of the day. Des Bremner walking past and virtually no one knowing who he was.

Thats because ,i think,that we oldies live to much in the past and the new Villa have little or no connection with our glory times.Shame i know cause every youngster who comes to Villa should watch our game against Bayern and the clips from MOTD when we won the leagueand the Super Cup win.They might then have some idea how far we have fallen,dont you think?

[PeterWithesShin]

Albrighton: Showing the same form he did for the latter half of last season.
Bannan: Same Bannan as last season.
Gardner: Give the kid a chance. He's played what, 6 games and you expect him to running games?
Lichaj: Improved on last season.
Herd: Improved on last season.
Clark: looked fine until he got injured.
In addition:
Weimann looking fully at home in the league. Baker looking decent.

Not much regression there IMO.

Albrighton gone backwards, Clark not gone anywhere, Bannan backwards, first team players all gone backwards. The youngsters would be better under MacDonald

Albrighton went backwards latter half of last season. That's got nothing to do with AM.
Bannan continues to be Bannan, looks good in patches, does far too much hollywood and flatters to deceive. Same as he did long before AM appeared.

There are plenty of sticks to beat AM with this season, the performances of the kids isn't one of them.

[olaftab]

Offside or not, how the hell did Mignolet not even get booked after being done for handling outside the area?

I didn't think it was a yellow card. He went whole heartedly for the ball caught the ball inside the area tried to stay inbound but his momentum took him just over. A free kick was all that was required.

[The Left Side]

Another dreadful performance, Tuesday is huge and I just want this season to be done!

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Albrighton: Showing the same form he did for the latter half of last season.
Bannan: Same Bannan as last season.
Gardner: Give the kid a chance. He's played what, 6 games and you expect him to running games?
Lichaj: Improved on last season.
Herd: Improved on last season.
Clark: looked fine until he got injured.
In addition:
Weimann looking fully at home in the league. Baker looking decent.

Not much regression there IMO.

I don't expect Gardner to be running games. He'd been head and shoulders above everyone, opposition included, for the reserves. He's a real athlete - tall, strong and authoritative on the field. I've been advocating his promotion to the 1st team all season. I didn't expect him to run games - he's not experienced enough - I just expected to see a few sparks of promise and creativity that we so lack. I'm therefore disappointed for him and me/us. I suppose I am assuming that AM has taken a very " natural" footballer and told him not to do what he is actually very good at.

[PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt]

Let's be honest, our wingers haven't delivered all season so for Bolton we should just play very narrow and fuck it forward to Heskey as much as we can and feed off him. We don't create jack shit with wide players, lets get it in the box and have a few goal mouth scrambles.

-----------------------Given----------------------
----Hutton----Cuellar----Baker-----Lihaj----
-------Gardner------Herd-----Bannan--------
-----------------------Ireland--------------------
-----------Heskey------Weimman-------------

[Tom Sawyer]

Let's be honest, our wingers haven't delivered all season so for Bolton we should just play very narrow and fuck it forward to Heskey as much as we can and feed off him. We don't create jack shit with wide players, lets get it in the box and have a few goal mouth scrambles.

-----------------------Given----------------------
----Hutton----Cuellar----Baker-----Lihaj----
-------Gardner------Herd-----Bannan--------
-----------------------Ireland--------------------
-----------Heskey------Weimman-------------

As good a plan as any.

[PeterWithesShin]

I'd be tempted to give Carruthers a start before the end of the season.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Let's be honest, our wingers haven't delivered all season so for Bolton we should just play very narrow and fuck it forward to Heskey as much as we can and feed off him. We don't create jack shit with wide players, lets get it in the box and have a few goal mouth scrambles.

-----------------------Given----------------------
----Hutton----Cuellar----Baker-----Lihaj----
-------Gardner------Herd-----Bannan--------
-----------------------Ireland--------------------
-----------Heskey------Weimman-------------

Agreed.
This looks fine to me, except for the Hutton factor!
I'm available to replace him even though Tuesday is my pension day and I'm usually well pi**ed by KO time. A bit like Hutton is!

[danlanza]

Albrighton: Showing the same form he did for the latter half of last season.
Bannan: Same Bannan as last season.
Gardner: Give the kid a chance. He's played what, 6 games and you expect him to running games?
Lichaj: Improved on last season.
Herd: Improved on last season.
Clark: looked fine until he got injured.
In addition:
Weimann looking fully at home in the league. Baker looking decent.

Not much regression there IMO.

I don't expect Gardner to be running games. He'd been head and shoulders above everyone, opposition included, for the reserves. He's a real athlete - tall, strong and authoritative on the field. I've been advocating his promotion to the 1st team all season. I didn't expect him to run games - he's not experienced enough - I just expected to see a few sparks of promise and creativity that we so lack. I'm therefore disappointed for him and me/us. I suppose I am assuming that AM has taken a very " natural" footballer and told him not to do what he is actually very good at.

Spot on!

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

I'd be tempted to give Carruthers a start before the end of the season.

Hear hear!

I know he only played for 15 mins against ManUre but he looked our best player!

[PeterWithesShin]

Albrighton: Showing the same form he did for the latter half of last season.
Bannan: Same Bannan as last season.
Gardner: Give the kid a chance. He's played what, 6 games and you expect him to running games?
Lichaj: Improved on last season.
Herd: Improved on last season.
Clark: looked fine until he got injured.
In addition:
Weimann looking fully at home in the league. Baker looking decent.

Not much regression there IMO.

I don't expect Gardner to be running games. He'd been head and shoulders above everyone, opposition included, for the reserves. He's a real athlete - tall, strong and authoritative on the field. I've been advocating his promotion to the 1st team all season. I didn't expect him to run games - he's not experienced enough - I just expected to see a few sparks of promise and creativity that we so lack. I'm therefore disappointed for him and me/us. I suppose I am assuming that AM has taken a very " natural" footballer and told him not to do what he is actually very good at.

Maybe he's just finding the step up harder than we expected?

[villan from luton]

He is playing in a struggling team, give the lad a chance