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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on February 07, 2012, 06:45:43 PM
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1-0 Home win.
Warnock (23) headed goal from an N'Zogbia corner.
I can but dream...
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2-1 to Villa with City having three players sent off.
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1-0 Bent, in a repeat of his debut.
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A crowd of idiots saying 'sack the Scottish c**t' while standing next to the McGregor statue. A bolt of lightning hits two of them and the rest are set about by half the coaching staff, Ken McNaught and Des Bremner.
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A crowd of idiots saying 'sack the Scottish c**t' while standing next to the McGregor statue. A bolt of lightning hits two of them and the rest are set about by half the coaching staff, Ken McNaught and Des Bremner.
The imbeciles wouldn't know where it was or who he is.
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I make sure I get over to go to three or four games a season. This season's been great! I've been to the home defeat to the Baggies and the home defeat to Swansea, so far... Last season I thought I'd try my luck away from home... so I went to the games at Man. City and West Brom.
I'll be there on Sunday so... 3-1 to the Villa.
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We'll raise our game for this one, play well and only lose 0-4.
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2-1 to us. Goals from Bent and Gabby off the bench.
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Dear Dave,
Please, please, please, please let me sell outside the Trinity Road Gates with Greg for this match.
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Dear Dave,
Please, please, please, please let me sell outside the Trinity Road Gates with Greg for this match.
If you must. Do you think Compass and dizzywonderstuff have worked out the irony of their meeting place yet?
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I seriously doubt it.
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Dear Dave,
Please, please, please, please let me sell outside the Trinity Road Gates with Greg for this match.
If you must. Do you think Compass and dizzywonderstuff have worked out the irony of their meeting place yet?
Seeing as it's Citeh, they might just turn up with "Good Luck Man City" sprayed on a skidmarked bed sheet.
2-1 Villa. And deserved. Two Alan Hutton volleys with his left peg.
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We're going to lose. They are just better than us. No shame in that as long as we give it a shot.
2-0.
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We're going to lose. They are just better than us. No shame in that as long as we give it a shot.
2-0.
That was the case last year as well. Believe.
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2-4. Bent 13, Ireland 78. Dzeko 16, Aguero pen 20, Johnson 57, Nasri 70.
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We'll match them for the first 30 minutes or so then it will be backs to the wall. 0-3
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3-0 to them and Hutton sent off
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Not looking forward to this. I fear a spanking even Max Mosely would be ashamed of.
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For some reason I think we'll get a draw. No Balotelli for them so thats a couple of certain goals gone.
1-1, Bent 40, Aguero 88.
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Man City 3-1
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3-3
Ireland, Dunne, Given (og)
Milner, Barry, Taylor (og)
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3-3
Ireland, Dunne, Given (og)
Milner, Barry, Taylor (og)
I'm suprised Stuart Taylor is still there!
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1-3.
Mind you I thought we'd lose last season's game aswell!
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I fully expect us to lose this one but hope we give them a decent game... or even better sneak a result!
I'll go for 1-3; Bent for us and Aguero, Dzeko and Adam Johnson for them
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Ever the optimist - 1-0 to us. Gabby.
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Nil nil
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Well we will concede at least 2, so probably 3 against them, but we will score at least 1, so 3-1 to them
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A sound beating with them not even having to get into third gear. Don't really care about it tbh - get this one out the way, move on, and concentrate on getting sufficient points off Wigan, Blackburn, Fulham and Bolton to make us safe before the run of difficult games. Knowing us though we'll beat Citeh and lose to Wigan.
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Part of me thinks we could give them a game if we play like we have at all too brief times this season.. Unfortunately, thats the part that suffers from periods of insanity. Reckon we'll get tanked 1-3. Aim low and you won't be disappointed but maybe get a pleasant surprise.
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2-0 Bent 14 Keane 92
Believe
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Our record against Man City is awful, even when we considered ourselves to be better than them. Now they're light years ahead of us, I can't see that changing. 4-1 to City.
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We'll be sexy going forward but ugly at the back. 2-4.
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1-0 Villa
Lescott OG
Some decent players in that Citeh side -there'd want to be, for the obscene amounts they pay. But not too many titles amongst them if you go 1-11 (or even 1-18). This is the time of year when things get a bit serious, and we might be able to exploit that anxiety.
If Warnock, the Dunner and Ginge don't give them a headstart, that is.
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3-2 to Villa (Bent, Keane and Gary Gardner)
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Given
RB CB CB LB
Petrov Gardner
Keane N'Zogbia
Gabby
Bent
Just go for it, give Gary a go. We've got nothing to lose with this one.
3-3 (Bent 38, 45) Keane (85)
N'Zogbia will play well.
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Can't see anything other than a beating, about 1-3.
The thought of Aguero running at our back 4 frightens me to death.
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The thought of Aguero running at our back 4 frightens me to death.
Then you would fit in nicely with our defenders.
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5-3 Villa. Bent and Gabby x4.
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It's hard to predict anything other than a Man City win. If we're going to get anything we need to defend better than we have done all season. But if we do manage that, there is always goals in this team.
2-3. Bent and Petrov.
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3-0 Villa win. Heskey with all 3 to answer his critics in the best possible way.
It will happen. Actually that's ridiculous, there is no way we will keep a clean sheet, so 3-2.
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3-1 City.
Can't see us winning this one.
Aquaro will run rings round our defence.
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Interesting comment from McLeish about 'five internationals at the back or whoever we decide to play there'. Changes afoot.
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Can't see anything other than a humiliating defeat. Can't remember a season where our home form has been so bad.
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0-4 defeat (Warnock og, Hutton og, Dunne og, Collins og)!
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home form is horrendous , Man city will be champions with the wealth of talent.
Home win
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Our record against Man City is awful, even when we considered ourselves to be better than them. Now they're light years ahead of us, I can't see that changing. 4-1 to City.
It used to be. They haven't beaten us at VP since 06/07 season.
That said, I fear a twatting on Sunday.
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The result doesn't even bear thinking about, I'm going for an optimistic 0-4
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I can't see anything other than a Man City win. However, if we play like we played against Arsenal at home before Christmas I won't be too disheartened.
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I have a strange feeling about this one!! I can see us winning 2-1 (but there again we will probably lose 3-0)
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We're so inconsistent and jeckyll / hyde these days that i have no idea how this one will go.
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We're so inconsistent and jeckyll / hyde these days that i have no idea how this one will go.
I'd agree with you if it was anybody else except Man City, they really are so strong both physically and mentally I just can't see us beating them. Still, if we manage to hold out for 93 minutes and score with our only shot of the game as Sunderland did, I won't be complaining. It's also worth noting that Richard Dunne normally raises his game against them.
Realistically, I can't see anything but a defeat; 0-2.
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We're so inconsistent and jeckyll / hyde these days that i have no idea how this one will go.
I'd agree with you if it was anybody else except Man City, they really are so strong both physically and mentally I just can't see us beating them. Still, if we manage to hold out for 93 minutes and score with our only shot of the game as Sunderland did, I won't be complaining. It's also worth noting that Richard Dunne normally raises his game against them.
Realistically, I can't see anything but a defeat; 0-2.
That's what I thought last season, though.
You're probably right, but if anything, we are getting harder to predict.
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A promising opening five minutes full of directionless energy ends when Dunne hacks down Milner for a needless penalty. Bent misses two sitters plus Hart makes a wonder save, then Warnock lobs Shay from the halfway line. McLeish takes off Bent and Keane for Heskey and Lichaj at half time. Barry bags a hat trick and moons the Holte End.
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Anyone in the Bartons before the game? I used to go down the Villa with my nephew, but the swine has buggered off to Australia.
I met up with more Villa fans down in London than I ever did in Brum.
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We'll have a go, but the keystone cops at the back will let us down again. 1-3.
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Citeh are scoring 3 or 4 a game. Add to that gifts from Dunne and Warnock and they'll improve even their impressive goal difference.
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Optimistic as ever, i have gone for a 1-1. Keane to score.
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I think we'll play well but lose 2-1. Looking at the fixtures,i noticed we've only had two clean sheets since October 1st,this must be our worst run for a while?
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We're so inconsistent and jeckyll / hyde these days that i have no idea how this one will go.
And all within 90 minutes too. We'll conceded at least 2 goals, whether we take the chances we'll also make will determine our fate result-wise.
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Citeh are scoring 3 or 4 a game.
Away from home they're not though. Everton and Sunderland created fuck-all between them in their games with Man City and managed to beat them and keep a clean sheet.
I can see us creating plenty of chances on Saturday, not getting our reward for it and leaking a couple in the other end.
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If Bent decides to show up and Gabby is on form and Keane playing a blinder I reckon we will score a couple of goals
2 - 8 to citeh
they`ll fookin rip us a new one with our back 4 of "internationals"
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I don't think we'll get anything out of this. I just hope we put in a good performance.
Oh, and please stop Warnock heading into his own goal, or trying to.
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I don't think we'll get anything out of this. I just hope we put in a good performance.
Oh, and please stop Warnock heading into his own goal, or trying to.
This.
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ManC or ManU this season have been pretty poor for title contenders compared to previous seasons. So we can get a point from this game if AM picks the right team. Would be great to beat them. ( despite their overt support for us in 93 or was it 90?)
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I reckon it will be 3-0 to City.
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If we don't make any mistakes, we can beat them... so 2-0 to citeh for me!
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Just cannot see how Citeh won't score a number of goals.
I think we've enough to cause problems for them too.
2-4 defeat.
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We can cause problems alright, they're just not always to the opposition.
I expect nothing from this game except endeavour. Any points are a nice bonus.
Unfortunately fortress Villa Park is more akin to a bouncy castle at the moment.
Yes, we can beat them. They're no strangers to having a mare and we have weapons.
Anything can happen in this game from a close Villa win to a good hiding for us.
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Villa 1-6 Man City
Eck to walk.
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Villa 1-6 Man City
Eck to walk.
Now that would be a sacrifice worth bearing.
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Villa 1-6 Man City
Eck to walk.
Villa 1-3 Man City
Eck to stay, blame the ref, say consoling things about Stephen Warnock
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Villa 1-6 Man City
Eck to walk.
Now that would be a sacrifice worth bearing.
I'd rather the team won myself, but each to his own.
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Villa 1-6 Man City
Eck to walk.
Now that would be a sacrifice worth bearing.
I'd rather the team won myself, but each to his own.
Oddball.
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Mcleish talking about Gardner on the official site is interesting, hopefully he'll give him some starts soon.
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Yes PaulWinch, interesting he's now being discussed in these terms - should see more of him from now on I'd imagine. For those who can't be arsed to look AM says this (bit odd about 'the looks' bit) :
Now McLeish wants Gardner to transfer that authority into first team training on a more regular basis.
He said: "Gary is a massive fan favourite - and he's also a manager's dream.
"We're all looking for Gary to make the grade here. The signs are very good.
"He's maturing very well and as a person, he's a terrific guy to have around. He is so respectful and he respects the club he plays for too. He will go through brick walls for the club.
"He has everything. He has the looks, the ability, the stature, the physique.
"It's up to the big fella to take the reins from here.
"He is unfazed and I like that. I have told him to come into training and not be a passenger.
"I said 'don't take the easy way out, try things'. I have told him to get the tackles in and not be frightened of putting the boot in to one of the senior lads.
"I don't mean that in a nasty way. I have told him to put himself about.
"I did that as a youngster and you get a lot of respect from the senior players for doing that.
"We're looking for Gary to be a Villa star now and in the future."
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Clever words from McLeish. Gardner is one of the few players that come along every few years that despite his young age and lack of experience can start making an impression in the Premier League. Good luck to the lad, he really can be as great as he wants to be.
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2-1 win (please)
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1-1 Bent 56, Dzeko 11
Spirited fight back from the lads and a cracking atmosphere, please!!
Just want to watch a home game and not be totally pissed off & miserable after at 9am (games are on tv early here)!
Up the mighty Villa!
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Yes PaulWinch, interesting he's now being discussed in these terms - should see more of him from now on I'd imagine. For those who can't be arsed to look AM says this (bit odd about 'the looks' bit) :
Now McLeish wants Gardner to transfer that authority into first team training on a more regular basis.
He said: "Gary is a massive fan favourite - and he's also a manager's dream.
"We're all looking for Gary to make the grade here. The signs are very good.
"He's maturing very well and as a person, he's a terrific guy to have around. He is so respectful and he respects the club he plays for too. He will go through brick walls for the club.
"He has everything. He has the looks, the ability, the stature, the physique.
"It's up to the big fella to take the reins from here.
"He is unfazed and I like that. I have told him to come into training and not be a passenger.
"I said 'don't take the easy way out, try things'. I have told him to get the tackles in and not be frightened of putting the boot in to one of the senior lads.
"I don't mean that in a nasty way. I have told him to put himself about.
"I did that as a youngster and you get a lot of respect from the senior players for doing that.
"We're looking for Gary to be a Villa star now and in the future."
I put that on another thread and got cross-examined. Up the Villa. Good luck McLeish.
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2-1 win (please)
That would kill off that stupid protest wouldn't it?
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Villa 1-6 Man City
Eck to walk.
Fucking disgraceful comment.
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"I said 'don't take the easy way out, try things'. I have told him to get the tackles in and not be frightened of putting the boot in to one of the senior lads.
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I could supply a list if it helps.
Let's face it we're going to get royally tanked in this game, just like we were last yea..
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DaveM5, you've got to read between the lines. He might, on the surface, be saying how he wants to develop GG into a top player, but what he REALLY means is "SOTV, I'm an incompetent agent of filth here to relegate your shit club you c****".
Dazzy G says it's so.
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Dear Dave,
Please, please, please, please let me sell outside the Trinity Road Gates with Greg for this match.
I will be available for bodyguard duties. However, at the first sign of trouble I'm hiding behind PeterWithesShin.
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Villa 1-6 Man City
Eck to walk.
Fucking disgraceful comment.
True. He'll never walk.
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2-1 to the Villa. Bent and Hutton.haha...yes, Hutton
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Warnock for them?
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1-1 Dunne for them Ireland for us.
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Lawro says....some complimentary things about us..., can it be true ?!.......Godzvilla !
Aston Villa v Man City (1600 GMT)
I was quite impressed with Villa in their 2-1 defeat by Newcastle last weekend - I thought they should have got something from the game.
Robbie Keane is proving pretty elusive to pick up in that deeper forward role they use him in, behind Darren Bent.
Keane is enjoying his football and I wouldn't be surprised if he is ruing his decision to go back to Los Angeles Galaxy at the end of the month because he has convinced himself and everybody else over the last few weeks that he is good enough to play in the Premier League for another 18 months, especially in that position.
Bent has started scoring again too, but I just fancy Manchester City here. They should be too strong for Villa in every department and, with Yaya and Kolo Toure both back soon from the Africa Cup of Nations, we might just see them kick on now after a difficult few weeks.
Speaking of players returning, I'm still convinced there is a part to play for Carlos Tevez for City between now and the end of the season. He has been registered as a player again, so it's a possibility.
Prediction: 1-2
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0-3 to city im afraid - Silva, Dzeko, Milner
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2-1 Villa
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We'll score at least 2 and win. Keane will score in the last few minutes in front of the Holte.
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Doesn't sound like Gabby will be fit for Sunday
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Probably a thrashing - hope I am wrong
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With Man City steadying the ship with the 3 0 home win over Fulham and our defensive frailties and poor home form it all points to a home defeat probably looking at 3-1, would be lovely to be wrong but cannot see it, they have too much for us to cope with, also I expect the gap between us and the bottom 3 to have tightened come the end of Sunday which will lead to twitchiness on site.
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With Man City steadying the ship with the 3 0 home win over Fulham and our defensive frailties and poor home form it all points to a home defeat probably looking at 3-1, would be lovely to be wrong but cannot see it, they have too much for us to cope with, also I expect the gap between us and the bottom 3 to have tightened come the end of Sunday which will lead to twitchiness on site.
It was a shame citeh were defeated by Everton, when Mancini expected an easy game and altered his team. If they had won that, he may have rested players against us. But then I remembered that Villa have a knack of writing headlines for forgotten and squad players from other teams who are given a chance to prove their worth.
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We'll get buggered senseless. Expect up to 14 players waddling off the pitch, in need of some stitches.
I can see us nabbing a goal through Bentles or Keano, but I think we'll turn into mush at the back. Expect Barry and/or Milner to score and rub the salt in.
1-4 City (being generous).
I don't even think we'll play too badly in midfield and attack, but they're just a country mile better than us and they'll tear us apart.
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We'll score at least 2 and win. Keane will score in the last few minutes in front of the Holte.
Let's hope citeh don't win the toss and elect to shoot towards the north stand in the first half.
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Villa 5-1 citeh.
Fuck the protestors, fuck Man City, fuck their bunch of mercenary players and fuck their new found plastic fans.
We are Aston Villa, that is all that matters.
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after years of sitting in the witton i am trying the trinity for this one for the first time. going to see if the clowns at the back (given aside) look any better from the other side. :)
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The problem is City have to win this, and not only will they want all 3 points, they will feel its for the taking,
I think we can draw a line through this one and look for the next game coming up.
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All I'm looking for is a good, committed, positive performance. I reckon we might see Lichaj and Gardner come in.
Given - Hutton, Cuellar, Dunne, Lichaj - Gardner, Petrov - Ireland, Keane, CNZ - Bent
Guzan, Collins, Bannan, Albrighton, Clark, Heskey, Weimann
I think there's risks playing that way due to the lack of a real DCM. But Clark has been poor of late and Gardner and Petrov are pretty solid so should be able to play as a pair
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All I'm looking for is a good, committed, positive performance. I reckon we might see Lichaj and Gardner come in.
Given - Hutton, Cuellar, Dunne, Lichaj - Gardner, Petrov - Ireland, Keane, CNZ - Bent
Guzan, Collins, Bannan, Albrighton, Clark, Heskey, Weimann
I think there's risks playing that way due to the lack of a real DCM. But Clark has been poor of late and Gardner and Petrov are pretty solid so should be able to play as a pair
Pretty much how I see it, Matt.
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http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2606963,00.html (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2606963,00.html)
Another good interview with our Manager.
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All I'm looking for is a good, committed, positive performance. I reckon we might see Lichaj and Gardner come in.
Given - Hutton, Cuellar, Dunne, Lichaj - Gardner, Petrov - Ireland, Keane, CNZ - Bent
Guzan, Collins, Bannan, Albrighton, Clark, Heskey, Weimann
I think there's risks playing that way due to the lack of a real DCM. But Clark has been poor of late and Gardner and Petrov are pretty solid so should be able to
play as a pair
Petrov and Gardner were walked through in the first half against Wolves
I'd bring in a more hardworking player than CNZ for this one. Either Albrighton or Gardner on the left
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Villa 5-1 citeh.
Fuck the protestors, fuck Man City, fuck their bunch of mercenary players and fuck their new found plastic fans.
We are Aston Villa, that is all that matters.
This!
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They are in need of a run of results and after getting a win last week I reckon they'll look at this as a gimme. Our home results have been woeful and I think they'll roll us over.
0-3.
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0-3
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I'm not looking forward to this game. Worst kick off time, and a cert to get a tanning. Can't wait for the season to end tbh.
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I'm Looking forward to this game, theirs no pressure on us to win so as long as we give it a go like we did against arsenal, that's good enough for me.
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Villa 5-1 citeh.
Fuck the protestors, fuck Man City, fuck their bunch of mercenary players and fuck their new found plastic fans.
We are Aston Villa, that is all that matters.
This!
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Listening to 5Live talking about Manure being top "but only for a short time"...
Cheers, thanks a lot, f##k-off!
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Listening to 5Live talking about Manure being top "but only for a short time"...
Cheers, thanks a lot, f##k-off!
Sky said exactly the same after the Man Utd vs Liverpool had finished.
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Anyone else worried about the rest of the results today? Lots of teams we were counting on being shite won. Our comfort margin has suddenly taken a turn for the worse.
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I'm very worried about the current situation. I think tomorrow could signal the start of one of Villa's all time low spells. I don't blame AM totally but I have no faith in him getting us out of it. Frankly I'm sick of us being the leagues soft touch, maybe it would be a good thing to o down and start to rebuild like Newcastle did.
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It's like being on a battle front. There are traitors pooping up behind us on every thread. Look out, there's one in Off Topic now.....
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I agree. The 4 games after this one are crucial. We'll need to get 7 points or so from those games. Do that and we should be absolutely fine. Have a bad run and I really think we could be in trouble
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I'm very worried about the current situation. I think tomorrow could signal the start of one of Villa's all time low spells. I don't blame AM totally but I have no faith in him getting us out of it. Frankly I'm sick of us being the leagues soft touch, maybe it would be a good thing to o down and start to rebuild like Newcastle did.
Are you for real?
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I'm very worried about the current situation. I think tomorrow could signal the start of one of Villa's all time low spells. I don't blame AM totally but I have no faith in him getting us out of it. Frankly I'm sick of us being the leagues soft touch, maybe it would be a good thing to o down and start to rebuild like Newcastle did.
Are you for real?
To be honest Dave, I think it's you who needs a heavy dose of realism. Our home form may yet cost us our Premier League status. All those dropped points were priceless. I'm not saying we are going down... but other teams have gone under similar circumstances.
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I'm very worried about the current situation. I think tomorrow could signal the start of one of Villa's all time low spells. I don't blame AM totally but I have no faith in him getting us out of it. Frankly I'm sick of us being the leagues soft touch, maybe it would be a good thing to o down and start to rebuild like Newcastle did.
Are you for real?
To be honest Dave, I think it's you who needs a heavy dose of realism. Our home form may yet cost us our Premier League status. All those dropped points were priceless. I'm not saying we are going down... but other teams have gone under similar circumstances.
We've got someone saying we're on our way to one of our lowest spells of all time, who thinks we're "the softest touch in the league" after we've lost one match, away to Champions League contenders, who thinks relegation might be a good thing, and I'm the one who should get real?
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I'm very worried about the current situation. I think tomorrow could signal the start of one of Villa's all time low spells. I don't blame AM totally but I have no faith in him getting us out of it. Frankly I'm sick of us being the leagues soft touch, maybe it would be a good thing to o down and start to rebuild like Newcastle did.
Are you for real?
To be honest Dave, I think it's you who needs a heavy dose of realism. Our home form may yet cost us our Premier League status. All those dropped points were priceless. I'm not saying we are going down... but other teams have gone under similar circumstances.
We've got someone saying we're on our way to one of our lowest spells of all time, who thinks we're "the softest touch in the league" after we've lost one match, away to Champions League contenders, who thinks relegation might be a good thing, and I'm the one who should get real?
And what about the games we've thrown away against what were relegation contenders when the season began? We haven't won at home since November. I'd love to be wrong at the end of the season... but it's hard to be confident under present circumstances.
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I'm very worried about the current situation. I think tomorrow could signal the start of one of Villa's all time low spells. I don't blame AM totally but I have no faith in him getting us out of it. Frankly I'm sick of us being the leagues soft touch, maybe it would be a good thing to o down and start to rebuild like Newcastle did.
Are you for real?
To be honest Dave, I think it's you who needs a heavy dose of realism. Our home form may yet cost us our Premier League status. All those dropped points were priceless. I'm not saying we are going down... but other teams have gone under similar circumstances.
We've got someone saying we're on our way to one of our lowest spells of all time, who thinks we're "the softest touch in the league" after we've lost one match, away to Champions League contenders, who thinks relegation might be a good thing, and I'm the one who should get real?
And what about the games we've thrown away against what were relegation contenders when the season began? We haven't won at home since November. I'd love to be wrong at the end of the season... but it's hard to be confident under present circumstances.
And what about the games we haven't thrown away? Do you think we'll get relegated - yes or no?
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Let's hope we don't get too many postponed games. The alarming rate at which we have supposedly gone downhill while playing no games at all since Newcastle away suggests that, with a couple of matches called off, we would all be slitting our wrists.
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Head says no. Heart says... "why shouldn't we?" We wouldn't be the first to drop like a stone. God knows we haven't done ourselves any favours.
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I'm very worried about the current situation. I think tomorrow could signal the start of one of Villa's all time low spells. I don't blame AM totally but I have no faith in him getting us out of it. Frankly I'm sick of us being the leagues soft touch, maybe it would be a good thing to o down and start to rebuild like Newcastle did.
Are you for real?
To be honest Dave, I think it's you who needs a heavy dose of realism. Our home form may yet cost us our Premier League status. All those dropped points were priceless. I'm not saying we are going down... but other teams have gone under similar circumstances.
We've got someone saying we're on our way to one of our lowest spells of all time, who thinks we're "the softest touch in the league" after we've lost one match, away to Champions League contenders, who thinks relegation might be a good thing, and I'm the one who should get real?
And what about the games we've thrown away against what were relegation contenders when the season began? We haven't won at home since November. I'd love to be wrong at the end of the season... but it's hard to be confident under present circumstances.
And what about the games we haven't thrown away? Do you think we'll get relegated - yes or no?
And which games might they be... apart from Bolton, Wolves and Chelsea? Every other game since Norwich has been points thrown away.
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I'm very worried about the current situation. I think tomorrow could signal the start of one of Villa's all time low spells. I don't blame AM totally but I have no faith in him getting us out of it. Frankly I'm sick of us being the leagues soft touch, maybe it would be a good thing to o down and start to rebuild like Newcastle did.
Are you for real?
He's been whinging as long as I can remember. Even when we were quite good.
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I'm very worried about the current situation. I think tomorrow could signal the start of one of Villa's all time low spells. I don't blame AM totally but I have no faith in him getting us out of it. Frankly I'm sick of us being the leagues soft touch, maybe it would be a good thing to o down and start to rebuild like Newcastle did.
Are you for real?
He's been whinging as long as I can remember. Even when we were quite good.
Those wishing us to go down should be deported to Small Heath regardless of what fate awaits them. We are not reportable to the European Court of Human Rights.
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FFS nobody is wishing it. Why are the concerned not allowed to voice their fears on this site? It's getting to be like some freaking happy clappy cult on here. Some of us are very worried. If our views aren't welcome here then please put it in the rules and we can go and post somewhere else.
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I doubt anyone other than a few total morons are wishing for us to go down. I think it's highly unlikely we will, but admit there is a very small nag of worry lurking in the background.
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Head says no. Heart says... "why shouldn't we?" We wouldn't be the first to drop like a stone. God knows we haven't done ourselves any favours.
You mean like winning at Chelsea and coming back from two down in our last home game?
You can get 20/1 on us going down if you fancy it.
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FFS nobody is wishing it. Why are the concerned not allowed to voice their fears on this site? It's getting to be like some freaking happy clappy cult on here. Some of us are very worried. If our views aren't welcome here then please put it in the rules and we can go and post somewhere else.
Nice one. We haven't had an "I can't say what I want " for ages.
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Head says no. Heart says... "why shouldn't we?" We wouldn't be the first to drop like a stone. God knows we haven't done ourselves any favours.
You mean like winning at Chelsea and coming back from two down in our last home game?
You can get 20/1 on us going down if you fancy it.
I don't think we will, but 20/1 seems too big a price.
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The table makes worrying reading. There is no denying that. A win tomorrow would be priceless.
Not sure how we picked up only one point over the last 2 games but it has put us under pressure. Keane going, leaking goals and poor home form. It's not pretty right now
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Yeah, the way we played going forward against QPR and Noocassil, we created enough to win two games comfortably. What a shame our defence is so unreliable.
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Head says no. Heart says... "why shouldn't we?" We wouldn't be the first to drop like a stone. God knows we haven't done ourselves any favours.
You mean like winning at Chelsea and coming back from two down in our last home game?
You can get 20/1 on us going down if you fancy it.
Don't bet, and I certainly wouldn't bet against The Villa. .
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Villa lets have Gardner to start.
I think he may not play N'zog.
Milner and Barry as their potential middle two is interesting.
Villa could win if Hart is sent off.
Hopefully a penalty and red card. There will probably be a few controversial decisons today plus a comedy own goal by Barry. Can see at least one sending off and a penalty. Villa to get the draw.
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I personally don't think there is any real chance of us getting relegated. In all likelihood another seven or right points would be enough. I think we'll get at least that from the next give games and probably finish on the same points tally a last season with maybe a few more on top.
As for today, if we were visiting a side who hadn't win at home since November, then I could guarantee it would be a home win.
I think we'll get a point.
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PARTRIDGES : expected line ups ;)
GIVEN, HUTTON, CUELLAR DUNNE ,LICHAJ , PETROV , GARDNER, BANNAN ,KEANE ,AGBONLAHOR, BENT
CITY:HART RICHARDS KOMPANY LESCOTT KOLAROV JOHNSON MILNER BARRY SILVA AGUERO DZEKO
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Expected line ups
GIVEN, HUTTON, CUELLAR DUNNE ,LICHAJ , PETROV , GARDNER, BANNAN ,KEANE ,AGBONLAHOR, BENT
CITY:HART RICHARDS KOMPANY LESCOTT KOLAROV JOHNSON MILNER BARRY SILVA AGUERO DZEKO
Is that a guess... or is it being reported elsewhere?
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Apparently there will be a 1 minute silence before KO in memory of Whitney Houston. Thank fuck for that, I was worried they'd play one of her records.
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It's not a bad line up of Fernando's but i can't see him dropping Ireland against his old club or Clark. I do like the idea of throwing in the likes of Bannan and Gardner though, a little more energy and spirit in the middle might do us good.
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Apparently there will be a 1 minute silence before KO in memory of Whitney Houston. Thank fuck for that, I was worried they'd play one of her records.
Why would I not be surprised? They have a minutes silence for every fecker and his dog these days. I find myself continually wondering who has died as teams always seem to be wearing black arm bands.
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Villa definite win, as I'm on a coach from Szczecin to Berlin with hyper-expensive 3G phone connection even for updates.
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Heskey's a given to come on at some point I suppose.
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Is it on SKY?
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Is it on SKY?
Yes, but I have had a coupon code sent to me from the club to watch it free on AVTV
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Apparently there will be a 1 minute silence before KO in memory of Whitney Houston. Thank fuck for that, I was worried they'd play one of her records.
Why would I not be surprised? They have a minutes silence for every fecker and his dog these days. I find myself continually wondering who has died as teams always seem to be wearing black arm bands.
Sucker.
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Expected line ups
GIVEN, HUTTON, CUELLAR DUNNE ,LICHAJ , PETROV , GARDNER, BANNAN ,KEANE ,AGBONLAHOR, BENT
CITY:HART RICHARDS KOMPANY LESCOTT KOLAROV JOHNSON MILNER BARRY SILVA AGUERO DZEKO
Is that a guess... or is it being reported elsewhere?
Don't think gabby's fit. Also would play Ireland. I was tempted to say petrov and Gardner should partner each other, but then I remembered that's how we started v wolves and got completely overran!
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I'd really like Gardner to start today, I think we need to go for it but I don't think he will.
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Well bad news guys
Heskey is starting today on the right wing.!!!!
His misses has just revealed it on twitter.
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------------Given
Hutton-Cuellar-Dunne-Lichaj
--------Petrov-Clark
Heskey-Keane-Ireland/Gardner
-----------Bent
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Heskey's a given to come on at some point I suppose.
People twittering that he's starting... on the wing.
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I like Heskey, but even I think that would be insansity.
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Ha ha she has deleted the tweet and changed it to hoping to see Emile start and she doesn't know what position.
He will definatly start on the right wing in my opinion.
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This is why I don't understand why fans want him to build a side here. He's dropped his 9.5m signing a few times this season (remember Spurs as well when we had 6 defenders?!) and now he's dropped him again for Heskey. I know they've had an argument, but at least put their differences aside for the good of the club? Heskey is useless in midfield where we need we to pass the ball around. We'll revert back to hoofing again.
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In fairness I think we could do with Heskey's strength today, just a shame it's one of our creative players that will miss out.
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Not Heskey please, we need to try and go for it in this game.
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If Heskey IS in the wing, I am flying over for the protest and will buy Dazzy a pint.
I just think his Mrs. is frustrated. I mean when was the last time he scored?
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Surely he's not starting Heskey?
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Surely he's not starting Heskey?
It would be a very very poor decision. There's no point in us trying to be too defensive, I'd definitely start Gardner.
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I'd bet Money on Heskey starting on the wing, for all unconvinced.
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I like Heskey, but even I that that would be insansity.
Dear God what are we becoming...
But if we win AM will be a genius!
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If Heskey scores we'll all have to devour a big ol' slice of humble pie, followed by a swift dessert of egg on my face.
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Heskey on the wing? Where did it all go so badly wrong.
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If Heskey scores we'll all have to devour a big ol' slice of humble pie, followed by a swift dessert of egg on my face.
My favourite meal whenever i've criticised anything Villa related.
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I think he's going for damage limitation again.
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Got to win this one. Attack is the best way so I hope Eck and team go for it.
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I think he's going for damage limitation again.
It will work about as well as it did at Spurs - not at all - and s the one thing he could do today to ensure he emerges from the match with less support than before it.
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There could be something in his contract that says if he's fit he plays. If so we'd rather have the option of taking him off than bringing him on.
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I think he's going for damage limitation again.
Something that generally compounds the damage. I'd rather lose five-nil having given it a go than set up to defend or neutralise the opposition and lose one-nil.
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There could be something in his contract that says if he's fit he plays. If so we'd rather have the option of taking him off than bringing him on.
Even O'Neill wouldn't be stupid enough to dish out a contract like that.
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I'm not going to condemn him for something that hasn't happened yet, but if (yes IF) he does go for damage limitation then he's committing hari kari.
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I think he's going for damage limitation again.
He'll do himself no favours with that.
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I'm not going to condemn him for something that hasn't happened yet, but if (yes IF) he does go for damage limitation then he's committing hari kari.
Yep.
Hopefully it is not true. Let's at least have a go at them.
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Heskey on the wing? Where did it all go so badly wrong.
August 2011 (or March 2010)
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I'm not going to condemn him for something that hasn't happened yet, but if (yes IF) he does go for damage limitation then he's committing hari kari.
Yep.
Hopefully it is not true. Let's at least have a go at them.
Exactly it's our only hope.
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Time to head off to the game, come on you Villa boys! Get into 'em, fuck 'em off!
UTV
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In fairness I think we could do with Heskey's strength today, just a shame it's one of our creative players that will miss out.
True, I also think we sometimes look better with him in the team as he gives us a presence up front. A few times when he has came on earlier this season we have improved for his presence. Not sure if he adds a threat though as we seem to be better but still lack potency up front.
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I've just see Charles N'Zogbia getting a placard out of his boot on the players car park.
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I've just see Charles N'Zogbia getting a placard out of his boot on the players car park.
Are you sure it wasn't a bedsheet?
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Aston Villa FC - Official
Villa v Man City: Given, Hutton, Cuellar, Dunne, Collins, Petrov, Gardner, Heskey, Albrighton, Keane, Bent. Subs: Guzan, Ireland, Warnock, Bannan, Baker, Weimann, N’Zogbia.
Man City v Villa: Hart, Kompany, Lescott, Zabaleta, Kolarov, De Jong, Barry, Milner, Silva, Johnson, Aguero. Subs: Pantilimon, Richards, Clichy, Savic, Nasri, Pizarro, Dzeko.
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How the feck is the tumbling bear in that team!?
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Oh dear.
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Really don't see the sense in dropping Ireland and CNZ for two lesser players. With a right footed centre back at left back and heskey on the left wing, I don't think we're going to see much in the way of cohesive passing football, to say the least.
I think this is going to be a familiar tale. By 4.20 I'll be sitting with the laptop on my lap, one earphone in, yelling 'for fuck's sake villa' as the wife turs at me whilst watching come dine with me.
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We've just dropped another place in the table, as Baggies have won 5-1 at Wolves.
It may be we are going to really need the 7 points between us and the bottom 5.
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I hope I have to eat humble pie later this evening.
Come on villa (and Heskey too!)
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Aston Villa FC - Official
Villa v Man City: Given, Hutton, Cuellar, Dunne, Collins, Petrov, Gardner, Heskey, Albrighton, Keane, Bent. Subs: Guzan, Ireland, Warnock, Bannan, Baker, Weimann, N’Zogbia.
Man City v Villa: Hart, Kompany, Lescott, Zabaleta, Kolarov, De Jong, Barry, Milner, Silva, Johnson, Aguero. Subs: Pantilimon, Richards, Clichy, Savic, Nasri, Pizarro, Dzeko.
Good Lord.
So what do we think is the plan then?
Heskey cutting in from the flanks causing havoc? Or maybe he's been assigned to double tag on Silva? Perhaps pulling the strings and making us tick just between the midfield and frontline.
I'd place him in a hole, no question.
Preferably out in Sutton park or some such, come kick off time.
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I'd place him in a hole, no question.
*chuckle*
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Aston Villa FC - Official
Villa v Man City: Given, Hutton, Cuellar, Dunne, Collins, Petrov, Gardner, Heskey, Albrighton, Keane, Bent. Subs: Guzan, Ireland, Warnock, Bannan, Baker, Weimann, N’Zogbia.
Man City v Villa: Hart, Kompany, Lescott, Zabaleta, Kolarov, De Jong, Barry, Milner, Silva, Johnson, Aguero. Subs: Pantilimon, Richards, Clichy, Savic, Nasri, Pizarro, Dzeko.
Good Lord.
So what do we think is the plan then?
Heskey cutting in from the flanks causing havoc? Or maybe he's been assigned to double tag on Silva? Perhaps pulling the strings and making us tick just between the midfield and frontline.
I'd place him in a hole, no question.
Preferably out in Sutton park or some such, come kick off time.
I reckon he's playing Heskey there because he reckons his physical presence will keep David White quiet.
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I see, so AM said there were no hard feelings after last week against CNZ and Stevie? So he promptly puts both of them on the bench and brings Emile back! The guy hasn't got a fucking clue....pity Gabby is still out. I hope I'm wrong but were heading for defeat...thanks Randy!
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Was at the game yesterday and what a load of shite that was. The line up said it all for me when I saw it on the tv screen in the north stand during the Dingles vs WBA game. I still cant for the life of me, understand why heskey is still playing ahead of other players who are better than him! Honestly, AM is fast becoming (or has become) a Joke with his selection. He clearly was playing for the draw and nothing more. The next 4 games are crucial for us -
Wigan (A),
Blackburn (A),
Fulham (H)
Bolton (H).
We need to to win all of those games to get to 40 points. Even winning 3 out of them would do us the world of good. After that we have
Arsenal (A),
Chelsea (H),
Liverpool (A),
Stoke (H),
Man Utd (A),
Sunderland (H)
WBA (A)
Spurs (H)
Norwich (A)
If we get nothing out of the next few games we are going to struggle big time imo
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When a gameplan or substitution or signing goes wrong, I always try to look at it objectively, and not with hindsight, to see if there was some common sense used in making the decision. I wouldn't have played Heskey, but we did need to be careful against a side like Man City. Sometimes you have to stay in a game before you can think about winning it and they would always have more possession and create more chances whatever team we put out. Ireland and N'Zogbia don't give a huge amount defensively, so having both on the pitch would have been a mistake, IMO. We did defend better than we have for a while, but I'd have played one of them ahead of Heskey to try and strike more of a balance.
After that, we just didn't play well enough attacking wise until they scored. Our poor ball retention meant they had it more, so the midfield was deep, leaving the strikers isolated. That changed after the goal, not just because of our changes, but they also sat deeper looking to hit on the break. We still couldn't break them down from open play, but had two good chances from set pieces.
A lot of reaction against Mcleish after that, which I understand is not just based on one game. However, when results are bad we'll always look to blame someone and when good games like that can be forgiven. I'd say the next two games have VERY important to us and to Mcleish.