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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Mister E on December 10, 2011, 11:17:55 AM
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No, not the FAC - although it's a possibility.
The Daily Male lists the three top departures from VP in the January sales - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2072324/Aston-Villa-manager-Alex-McLeish-plans-clear-captain-Stilyan-Petrov-heading-list.html - with Cuellar, Ireland and Petrov all listed.
May be MON can be persuaded to take a 3-for-2 deal in return for £20m? Nope, thought not.
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I won't be sorry to see Ireland go. He's had plenty of chances.
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I would expect Ireland to be closer to the first team now with Jenas out for the season..
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Petrov out - Guthrie in
Ireland out - Gibson in
Cuellar out - Gabbidon in as defence back up .
These will be the calibre of players ...
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I'd rather we don't bother wasting our money on the likes of Guthrie and Gibson and just play Gardner.
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"Heroes"?
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No More Heroes.
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"Heroes"?
When Hugh Cornwell sung "Whatever Happened to the Heroes?" he was probably kidding around.
"Journeymen" wouldn't fit in the headline, and they baulked at using the usual "Aces".
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/12/19/heroes460.jpg)
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Sigh with relief whilst I like and respect Petrov he's no hero as for Ireland he's been the worst signing since Eric double d - I was fearing Gabby would be sold when I saw the title. Shame to let Carlos go he's the best defender at the club.
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Gardner will be in the first XI by February - but his first name will be Craig.
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meh. Considering the quality of players we've let go in the last 2 years, its hardly a major worry seeing them 3 join the exit. Offer them to MON for his "Barcelona" project
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I was worried when when I first saw heroes , then I thought who is a hero at Villa , who has earned that .
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I like Cuellar and Petrov and would be sorry to see them go, but Ireland? He's done so little he won't be missed in the slightest.
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In terms of who AM sees as midfielders, the idea that he would get rid of Ireland and Petrov ahead of Heskey is disconcerting.
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In terms of who AM sees as midfielders, the idea that he would get rid of Ireland and Petrov ahead of Heskey is disconcerting.
Disconcerting? It's frightening.
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I'm a fan of both Cuellar and Petrov but as long as both are well replaced I'm not that unhappy.
That said, there is a long list of players that I'd like to get rid of before either of them.
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I've liked and appreciated both Petrov & Cuellar, Ireland, well it just hasn't worked out here for him. But I think shifting all three would be great as it free's up around £150 p/w in wages. Hopefully we'll look continental and get more value for our money.
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Be sad to see Stan go, never anything but professional and committed for us. Ireland can fuck off though.
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I'd keep Carlos and send one of Dunne or Collins but it ain't going to happen.
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Letting Petrov go in January would be a mistake. He's had a good season and is an experienced head.
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Petrov is actually having a decent season.
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One thing I would say is that towards the end of last season when we brought Stan back into the fold we looked a better side and started to get the points that steered us away from relegation trouble. I think that was quite significant in us staying up last season though maybe not as much as Bent's goals.
Anyway, I reckon we'll be fine as long as we get a good player in to replace him.
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Gardner will be in the first XI by February - but his first name will be Craig.
Leaving myself open here, but, I'd have Craig back. I always thought he was under rated and under used by MO'N.
Gary going to Coventry is the begining of Garys first team push for Villa. He'll come back after a month or 2 ready to go.
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Letting Petrov go in January would be a mistake. He's had a good season and is an experienced head.
Agree, I'd keep both Stan and Carlos.
I'd probably offload Collins now, and play Dunne and Carlos giving Clark a run out in place of Dunne.
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He got a good goal today, but I still think he should go.
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Getting rid of Petrov now would be ludicrous. I doubt there's any truth in it.
Surely?
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What the hell has Cuellar done to piss off so many managers? It seems like he's on the end of the opposite of the Great Heskey Mystery.
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Petrov won't go. McLeish values him and we need his leadership and experience.
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When I saw that the rumours regarded Dunne and Ireland I must admit that I haven't understood the word "heroes" on the title of the thread.
Should they go I'd be more than happy, I'm looking forward to get rid of "players" like those.
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Like most I've got nothing against Cuellar but it's odd how a succession of managers have left him out. If we're not going to play him considering he's on big wages and will be gone for free in the summer we might as well get some money for him now.
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Stan was excellent again today.
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I would keep Carlos and Stan.
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We would miss Petrov as the calming influence in MF, IMHO.
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I would keep Petrov. Bye Ireland & Cuellar
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I would keep Carlos and Stan.
So would I. Ireland can do one.
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Think it would be a huge mistake to let Stan go. IMHO he carries our midfield at the minute. I'd be sorry to see Carlos go but he (wrongly) isn't getting a look in under AM so may as well let him go in Jan rather than end of the season.As for Ireland - he can do one
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The quicker we're rid of ireland the better. If he can take Beye and Heskey with him then all the better.
Would be fine with Cuellar leaving as well, if he's not making the bench then he's a waste of money.
If Dunne or Collins go as well I'd be pretty happy with things.
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If Ireland really is sapping 70k a week in wages, we need to get shot ASAP.
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It will be a shame if Carlos is sold without ever getting a decent run in the side in the position he was bought for.
No tears shed if Ireland goes.
Petrov, well he is doing better this season and 3 league goals this season is an improvement. He will need replacing and for McGraths sake Darren Gibson is not the answer.
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I can't see him selling Petrov in January. At the end of the season maybe, but not just yet. It would be a shame to see Carlos go but Ireland won't be missed.
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Ireland can go, soon.
Carlos and Clarke would be a good CH pairing, let Collins go.
MoN needs a plan B!!!!
Beye bye bye beye.
Does anyone fancy Warnock? [pls]
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Selling Petrov would be insanity. He's our only experienced head in CM. We can't get by with just Delph, Bannan and Herd for 2-3 positions. That would be ludicrous. Stan's just about the only one in our side with composure in the middle, and an ability to hold onto the ball. We know damn well we're not gonna have the funds to buy anyone decent in that position. We need another couple of players in the middle on top of what we already have, never mind selling anyone.
Ireland is a tough sell, but we may as well. He's finished at this level IMO.
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Can anyone really see Ireland finding another club on the wages hea on?? He's going to be around for a while. He'll be loane out at best with us still paying most of his wages!
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It would be lunacy to let Petrov go,
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Ireland can go, soon.
Carlos and Clarke would be a good CH pairing, let Collins go.
MoN needs a plan B!!!!
Beye bye bye beye.
Does anyone fancy Warnock? [pls]
Is Warnock really that bad Charlie? We are desperate for a LB, and could do a lot worse!
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Warnock's positioning is quite poor at times and he has an infuriating tendency to lunge in and give away free kicks in a dangerous places.
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Warnock is awful.
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:o Have to admit lads, bit shocked regarding your feelings about Warnock! Wasn't he in the England squad a while back?
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Petrov was great today, should not be gettin rid not yet, Ireland, heskey, beye, Dunne can all go, Cuellar runs like a girl
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Ireland will be our new Beye.
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Davey, told you a couple of nights ago about Warnock. Total waste of oxygen. Whiger, rubbish, weak, dives in, liability. All are kind I reckon Nigel Winterburn could dust off his boots and be a better player now.
Of those on that list, there is no chance Petrov will be sold in Jan. End of last season taught us how important a head he is in the team.
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Davey, told you a couple of nights ago about Warnock. Total waste of oxygen. Whiger, rubbish, weak, dives in, liability. All are kind I reckon Nigel Winterburn could dust off his boots and be a better player now.
Of those on that list, there is no chance Petrov will be sold in Jan. End of last season taught us how important a head he is in the team.
Aye, you did that marra! Still, honestly a little taken aback. But, you guys are seeing him week in week out, i'm just an outsider pearing in so to speak, only see him on MOTD, or Sky! I think Petrov is class, certainly a class above anything we currently have in his role, but despite the general consensus on here regarding MON signing older players, i'd be surprized if he came in for him to be truthfull!
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I think Petrov will stay until the summer unless Sunderland come in with a mad offer, I still think we need his experience in the middle to guide some of the young players we have in that area.
Ireland can go, it's clearly not going to happen for him here and he isn't making much effort to try to make it happen. As others have said, we can just replace him in the squad with Gardner.
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Just got this on our website! Nathan Delfouneso? I don't know much about him other than he's a young Villa striker who came through the ranks! Could be just papertalk like most transfer speculation in the round ups!
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Sunderland-manager-Martin-O-Neill-keen-to-raid-Aston-Villa-for-Nathan-Delfouneso-article841746.html#.TuPqtZYVes0.twitter
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Warnock is fine for our and Sunderland's level.
He can be a plank at times with his position and stupid giving away from free kicks but I don't think he's had that bad a season.
On the other side, you sure you don't want Hutton back Davey?! Was he really this bad when he was on loan for you?
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Just got this on our website! Nathan Delfouneso? I don't know much about him other than he's a young Villa striker who came through the ranks! Could be just papertalk like most transfer speculation in the round ups!
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Sunderland-manager-Martin-O-Neill-keen-to-raid-Aston-Villa-for-Nathan-Delfouneso-article841746.html#.TuPqtZYVes0.twitter
He's one of those who has never really looked like he could be something special, but might get a second wind. He seems to be our fourth choice striker behind Bent, Gabby and Weimann (fifth if you count Heskey) so maybe a £3 million move would be best for all concerned.
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Just got this on our website! Nathan Delfouneso? I don't know much about him other than he's a young Villa striker who came through the ranks! Could be just papertalk like most transfer speculation in the round ups!
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Sunderland-manager-Martin-O-Neill-keen-to-raid-Aston-Villa-for-Nathan-Delfouneso-article841746.html#.TuPqtZYVes0.twitter
He was the next big thing a few seasons ago. He got on well with MoN who gave him the odd chance. He's faded out of the picture somewhat under Houllier and McLeish. The general concensus is that he probably won't make it as a premier league player but he does seem to be a good finisher as far as I can tell and has been a bit of a victim of circumstance being behind Gabby and Bent in the pecking order.
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Warnock is fine for our and Sunderland's level.
He can be a plank at times with his position and stupid giving away from free kicks but I don't think he's had that bad a season.
On the other side, you sure you don't want Hutton back Davey?! Was he really this bad when he was on loan for you?
;D To be honest he was class when he was on loan with us. We tried to get him permanent but apparently Spuds wanted about 8-9 million for him! I'd take him after seeing what he done while up here. The odd phsycopathic challenge but generally quality, and talented going forward on overlaps, Would you swap him for very handsome, male model type, invisible Argentine International? :D We've seen him more on his youtube model video than we have in a red n white shirt!
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I think it's fair to say if MON was still our manager, the Fonz would be a regular for us by now.
Edit: I think a loan would be the best solution as we'd look pretty stupid if we sold him for 2m and he then scored hatfuls for Sunderland. Much like when we sold Crouch to Southampton.
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How ironic. MO'N never played him at Villa despite having a choice between him and Heskey. Merse made me laugh on Soccer Saturday today by saying he wouldnt be surprised if he goes for Heskey on loan till the end of the season.
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Just got this on our website! Nathan Delfouneso? I don't know much about him other than he's a young Villa striker who came through the ranks! Could be just papertalk like most transfer speculation in the round ups!
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Sunderland-manager-Martin-O-Neill-keen-to-raid-Aston-Villa-for-Nathan-Delfouneso-article841746.html#.TuPqtZYVes0.twitter
He's one of those who has never really looked like he could be something special, but might get a second wind. He seems to be our fourth choice striker behind Bent, Gabby and Weimann (fifth if you count Heskey) so maybe a £3 million move would be best for all concerned.
I'd take Weimann just for the crack of being able to chant "Whey-Aye man!" .......... If you don't know our local dialect that will mean nowt to you! .......... i'll get me coat! ;)
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Warnock is fine for our and Sunderland's level.
He can be a plank at times with his position and stupid giving away from free kicks but I don't think he's had that bad a season.
On the other side, you sure you don't want Hutton back Davey?! Was he really this bad when he was on loan for you?
;D To be honest he was class when he was on loan with us. We tried to get him permanent but apparently Spuds wanted about 8-9 million for him! I'd take him after seeing what he done while up here. The odd phsycopathic challenge but generally quality, and talented going forward on overlaps, Would you swap him for very handsome, male model type, invisible Argentine International? :D We've seen him more on his youtube model video than we have in a red n white shirt!
Ah Angeleri, dead ringer for Jonas Guiterezz isn't he?! Is Riveros still there?
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I think it's fair to say if MON was still our manager, the Fonz would be a regular for us by now.
Edit: I think a loan would be the best solution as we'd look pretty stupid if we sold him for 2m and he then scored hatfuls for Sunderland. Much like when we sold Crouch to Southampton.
Well if Delfouneso can put them away, he is what we need, as Bendtner doesn't seem to like being in the opposition's box for some reason!
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Warnock is fine for our and Sunderland's level.
He can be a plank at times with his position and stupid giving away from free kicks but I don't think he's had that bad a season.
On the other side, you sure you don't want Hutton back Davey?! Was he really this bad when he was on loan for you?
;D To be honest he was class when he was on loan with us. We tried to get him permanent but apparently Spuds wanted about 8-9 million for him! I'd take him after seeing what he done while up here. The odd phsycopathic challenge but generally quality, and talented going forward on overlaps, Would you swap him for very handsome, male model type, invisible Argentine International? :D We've seen him more on his youtube model video than we have in a red n white shirt!
Ah Angeleri, dead ringer for Jonas Guiterezz isn't he?! Is Riveros still there?
He's been that invisible that they could actually be the same bloke! Riveros is still ours, but is on loan somewhere, and i honestly don't know where! Bruce has a lot to answer for! Brought in a group of South Americans, and Africans, and all have gone or dissapeared within a year!
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I think it's fair to say if MON was still our manager, the Fonz would be a regular for us by now.
Edit: I think a loan would be the best solution as we'd look pretty stupid if we sold him for 2m and he then scored hatfuls for Sunderland. Much like when we sold Crouch to Southampton.
Well if Delfouneso can put them away, he is what we need, as Bendtner doesn't seem to like being in the opposition's box for some reason!
Davey I am an MO'N fan but he does tend to buy players and then for reasons only known to himself doesn't play them. By the way, I assume Delf is the first step to playing like Barca.....
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I think it's fair to say if MON was still our manager, the Fonz would be a regular for us by now.
Edit: I think a loan would be the best solution as we'd look pretty stupid if we sold him for 2m and he then scored hatfuls for Sunderland. Much like when we sold Crouch to Southampton.
Well if Delfouneso can put them away, he is what we need, as Bendtner doesn't seem to like being in the opposition's box for some reason!
Davey I am an MO'N fan but he does tend to buy players and then for reasons only known to himself doesn't play them. By the way, I assume Delf is the first step to playing like Barca.....
;D Only if he's like Messi ...... ;D ;D (We are gonna get tortured with that for ages aren't we! lol)
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I think it's fair to say if MON was still our manager, the Fonz would be a regular for us by now.
Edit: I think a loan would be the best solution as we'd look pretty stupid if we sold him for 2m and he then scored hatfuls for Sunderland. Much like when we sold Crouch to Southampton.
Well if Delfouneso can put them away, he is what we need, as Bendtner doesn't seem to like being in the opposition's box for some reason!
Davey I am an MO'N fan but he does tend to buy players and then for reasons only known to himself doesn't play them. By the way, I assume Delf is the first step to playing like Barca.....
;D Only if he's like Messi ...... ;D ;D (We are gonna get tortured with that for ages aren't we! lol)
Barca 1983, perhaps.
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He's been that invisible that they could actually be the same bloke! Riveros is still ours, but is on loan somewhere, and i honestly don't know where! Bruce has a lot to answer for! Brought in a group of South Americans, and Africans, and all have gone or dissapeared within a year!
TBF, if they had thought they had made it out of the third world slums, then ended up in Sunderland......... <wink>
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Surprised to see Stan listed. I'm not his biggest fan but surely we cant afford to lose our most experienced midfielder half way through the season.
Carlos doesnt really make sense either...only 6mths left on his contract so is it really worth selling him for £1m when he could be at least back up for Dunne or Collins?
Ireland. Waste of space and wages unfortunately.
No doubt Heskey will see out the remainder of his more than lucrative contract...just hope some moron doesnt offer him an extension.
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Warnock is awful.
Agreed
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Warnock is fine for our and Sunderland's level.
He can be a plank at times with his position and stupid giving away from free kicks but I don't think he's had that bad a season.
On the other side, you sure you don't want Hutton back Davey?! Was he really this bad when he was on loan for you?
;D To be honest he was class when he was on loan with us. We tried to get him permanent but apparently Spuds wanted about 8-9 million for him! I'd take him after seeing what he done while up here. The odd phsycopathic challenge but generally quality, and talented going forward on overlaps, Would you swap him for very handsome, male model type, invisible Argentine International? :D We've seen him more on his youtube model video than we have in a red n white shirt!
Ah Angeleri, dead ringer for Jonas Guiterezz isn't he?! Is Riveros still there?
He's been that invisible that they could actually be the same bloke! Riveros is still ours, but is on loan somewhere, and i honestly don't know where! Bruce has a lot to answer for! Brought in a group of South Americans, and Africans, and all have gone or dissapeared within a year!
You wont have that problem with the new boss.
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He's been that invisible that they could actually be the same bloke! Riveros is still ours, but is on loan somewhere, and i honestly don't know where! Bruce has a lot to answer for! Brought in a group of South Americans, and Africans, and all have gone or dissapeared within a year!
TBF, if they had thought they had made it out of the third world slums, then ended up in Sunderland......... <wink>
Heh, heh! Aye, parts of our area aren't as "up to date" as others, but i've visited Birmingham plenty times to know its not much different to anywhere else! ;)
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Dont shoot me as its from that most reliable source, The People.
The new Black Cats boss has earmarked FOUR Villa players as possible targets in defenders Carlos Cuellar, Richard Dunne and James Collins, plus skipper Stiliyan Petrov – all of whom he signed for the Midlands club.
And O’Neill is confident he can land one of the defenders in January’s transfer window.
People Sport revealed last week that O’Neill desperately needs a new striker at the Stadium of Light, with Fulham hitman Andrew Johnson, 30, at the top of his list. Villa, too, have joined a number of clubs interested, among them QPR and Blackburn.
And we can reveal that representatives of Paris Saint-Germain’s 24-year-old hitman Mevlut Erdinc, have been in touch with Sunderland about a deal.
But O’Neill also has to tighten up at the back after seeing his side’s frailty first-hand at Wolves last weekend. He signed Cuellar from Rangers for £7.8million in August 2008.
The Spaniard is out of contract next summer and despite insisting he will see out the deal, Villa would prefer to accept £2m now rather than Cuellar going on a free in June.
O’Neill bought Dunne, now 32, for Villa from Manchester City in 2009 in a £5m deal and would love the Republic of Ireland man with him on Wearside.
Centre-back partner Collins, 28, joined from West Ham around the same time – and the pair made their debuts in a 1-0 derby defeat of Birmingham.
Midfielder Petrov was also a key member of O’Neill’s successful side at Celtic before joining his old boss at Villa for £6m in 2006.
McLeish won’t want to lose key players but said this week he must sell before he can buy in January.
Ideally, he would prefer the likes of Cuellar and Ciaran Clark, and midfielder Stephen Ireland, off his books.
Has McCleish given up on Clarke already without giving the kid a chance??
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Clark won't be leaving. Not a chance.
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They can have the whole back line!
Make Cuellar captain and extend his contract, partnering Cuaten Clark. Then we can buy a few players as back up.
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Clark is a 'football player' rather than a 'footballer' - which is my terminology for a player being able to read and play the game. (the former)
Remember his two goals at home v Arsenal last year?
His days are sadly numbered at B6. Yet I had hopes he would one day Captain us!
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Remember his two goals at home v Arsenal last year?
An offside smash and a three yard header from some awful defending?*
*I'm being facetious - I think he's great, but those two goals aren't probably the thing that demonstrate it.
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I will be gutted if we let Clark go without him having a real chance,it could be like Gary Cahill all over again because Clark is going to be a great player! He can have Petrov,Heskey and Cuellar
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Just watching MOTD2.
Let MON have Dunne and Collins, get Samba in and partner him with Clark.
Sorted!
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Just watching MOTD2.
Let MON have Dunne and Collins, get Samba in and partner him with Clark.
Sorted!
I'd go for that.
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Me too.
Phil Jones learnt a fair bit playing alongside Samba.
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Is it not time for a transfer thread, links with Zamora today.
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Expect some serious antipathy if Clark goes: that would absolute madness.
Clark should have been playing throughout this season already. For McMinge to not see that is damning.
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I can't believe we would be daft enough to let Clark go.
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Might not have an option if Mcleish won't give him a chance.
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It's tabloid speculation, don't give it any credence.
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I personally think Ireland and Petrov's time is up at the club. We need to move forward now and Petrov, although he has been a decent signing (still dont rate him though), cant cut it anymore more. Cuellar was always going to be sold or released in the summer so thats not much of a surprise to me
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Cuellar will be a good signing for someone in January. I can see us letting him go as, again, he's barely featured.
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Just watching MOTD2.
Let MON have Dunne and Collins, get Samba in and partner him with Clark.
Sorted!
I was thinking exactly the same thing yesterday. Clark needs to play alongside a big, strong partner as he's physically just not powerful enough.
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Well I'd like Clark to actually get some game time, it's ridiculous that he's not getting the chance.
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Of the three mentioned:-
Ireland - his days are surely numbered here, but we'll have to pay him off to get rid of him.
Petrov - can't see him going anywhere until the summer at least.
Cuellar - shame, but he'll be gone at the end of the season, so if we can get some cash now and free up some space on the wagebill then we should.
Incoming wise, I can only see a midfielder to replace Jenas, but I have no idea who.
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I think MON could sign the Toga Zinedine Zidane for Sunderland yet .
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I'd gladly let him take either Dunne or Collins and they can take Ireland too, then Clark and Gardner can come in and we can get Samba or let Cuellar see out his contract but I can't see it happening.
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I would be amazed if Petrov left purely because he has 18 months left on his current contract and at his age he aint going to get money like it again
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I think the Petrov 'link' is just an absolute shot in the dark. Given our midfield options, we simply can't sell him in January, unless we have a couple of top-class players coming in. Petrov has played pretty well this season and now, without Jenas to call on, we have a real lack of experience in midfield.
Ireland appears to be going absolutely nowhere with us, though I'm not sure who would take him; Cuellar simply isn't being used and with six months remaining on his deal I think he'll the player to leave.
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Whats the betting that Cuellar will be part of a deal to bring a Rangers player to VP? I think the Steven Davis move could well be one as part of a deal to take Carlos back up norf!
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I watched the Sunderland game yesterday . I didnt realise MON had signed Steve Sidwell already ...
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Petrov should stay; the midfield works far better with him in it.
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Petrov should stay; the midfield works far better with him in it.
It does and is a fact that only the most blinkered would deny.
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Petrov should stay; the midfield works far better with him in it.
It does and is a fact that only the most blinkered would deny.
Maybe for 60mins the midfield works fine but after that, he clearly runs out of steam.
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In that case, we're better off either signing a new, top-class (or very good) midfielder to start ahead of Petrov (him coming on after 60-odd mins) or someone to replace Petrov when he tires. Now that Jenas is out of the equation, we need a player to replace him - just don't see us being able to sign two midfielders of genuine quality so Petrov must stay, in January at least.
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Petrov should stay; the midfield works far better with him in it.
It does and is a fact that only the most blinkered would deny.
Maybe for 60mins the midfield works fine but after that, he clearly runs out of steam.
I used to call him the 60-minute man but this season he seems to have found a new lease of life and is coping with the full game. Herd's influence perhaps?
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Gardner will be in the first XI at West Bromwich Albion by February - but his first name will be Craig.
Fixed
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Petrov should stay; the midfield works far better with him in it.
It does and is a fact that only the most blinkered would deny.
Maybe for 60mins the midfield works fine but after that, he clearly runs out of steam.
I used to call him the 60-minute man but this season he seems to have found a new lease of life and is coping with the full game. Herd's influence perhaps?
12 months ago id be all for getting rid of him,but he's been pretty consistant in a poor team so far this season,Herd has definately helped him this season,and as we wouldnt get big money fo him,i cant see the point of getting shot of him.
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Heroes? ;D
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Heroes? ;D
Irony? 8)
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I think the Petrov 'link' is just an absolute shot in the dark. Given our midfield options, we simply can't sell him in January, unless we have a couple of top-class players coming in. Petrov has played pretty well this season and now, without Jenas to call on, we have a real lack of experience in midfield.
Ireland appears to be going absolutely nowhere with us, though I'm not sure who would take him; Cuellar simply isn't being used and with six months remaining on his deal I think he'll the player to leave.
Petrov does not have 18 months left on his contract. He is contracted until the summer and Villa have an extra year option on him. However Stan has been told that Villa will not be taking up this option so he will be leaving in the summer if not before.
Don't shoot the messenger but I was told this on Saturday.
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Would be sorry to see Stan go but he can't last 90 mins these days. All of MON's players will be gone within 18 months, that in itself doesn't concern me but who we replace them with does?
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Petrov was breaking forward after 91 minutes on Saturday to set up Albrighton's shot.
He's hardly Michael Essien, but this tiredness thing is a bit of a myth that's snowballed.
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... but this tiredness thing is a bit of a myth that's snowballed.
There are plenty of such myths flying about at the moment. Baaaaa.
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I think the Petrov 'link' is just an absolute shot in the dark. Given our midfield options, we simply can't sell him in January, unless we have a couple of top-class players coming in. Petrov has played pretty well this season and now, without Jenas to call on, we have a real lack of experience in midfield.
Ireland appears to be going absolutely nowhere with us, though I'm not sure who would take him; Cuellar simply isn't being used and with six months remaining on his deal I think he'll the player to leave.
Petrov does not have 18 months left on his contract. He is contracted until the summer and Villa have an extra year option on him. However Stan has been told that Villa will not be taking up this option so he will be leaving in the summer if not before.
Don't shoot the messenger but I was told this on Saturday.
If thats the case i'm not surprised. He's been fading for 3 seasons. I just hope they intend to spend a bit of money replacing him because at his best he was a very important part of the team
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Petrov was breaking forward after 91 minutes on Saturday to set up Albrighton's shot.
He's hardly Michael Essien, but this tiredness thing is a bit of a myth that's snowballed.
He's clearly been given license to roam forward and let Herd do more of the donkey work. Most people would agree his legs looked gone during the latter parts of games over the past couple of seasons but he's had a bit of a lease of new life in the role McLeish has given him.
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Petrov does not have 18 months left on his contract. He is contracted until the summer and Villa have an extra year option on him. However Stan has been told that Villa will not be taking up this option so he will be leaving in the summer if not before.
Don't shoot the messenger but I was told this on Saturday.
Why would I shoot the messenger, Fuse? I don't think I said Petrov had 18 months on his contract, but did say I can't see him leaving in January... the summer, absolutely. The summer's a different ball game, hopefully we'll be moving on one or two more by then.
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Ah didn't know that Fuse.
Can see him going in the summer then.
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Just read on our forum that we are being linked with a £5m move for James Collins in the transfer window! The OP has not given a source, so don't know if its bull or not. Think we have more serious issues to address in other positions than centre half to be honest!
Probably just the papers selling rumours! :-\
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I honestly don't think we can afford to let Petrov go in January. We'll be left with no midfield experience whatsoever.
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Keep Petrov
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Be it in the summer or January, replacing Petrov in our side won't be cheap, so will Randy spend the money to do it properly? I have my doubts!