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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on November 26, 2011, 03:53:58 PM
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VILLA team v Swansea: Given, Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Warnock, Herd, Delph, N’Zogbia, Heskey, Bent, Agbonlahor. Subs: Guzan, Bannan, Albrighton, Clark, Cuellar, Delfouneso, Jenas.
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I'm surprised Jenas doesn't start. Collins should have been dropped and Heskey. But come on Villa.
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surprised if collins is in the right frame of mind after the news of wales manager gary speeds suicide has just broken.collins should be left out today.
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Let's keep a sense of perspective on this thread today please.
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Let's keep a sense of perspective on this thread today please.
Echoed 100%.
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Twitter rumours are Collins has pulled out of the team. Understandable.
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If he has I can completely understand.
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Im a bit surprised the game hasnt been called off in the circumstances , surely as hes their national manager it would have been understandable .
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So the manager had the chance to play Bannan, Gardner and Jenas but instead has chosen Delph, Herd and HESKEY.
He also picked Collins and Hutton AGAIN who defended like clowns.
This match shouldn't be played tbh considering the circumstances. I can't believe our stubborn hopeless manager though.
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Let's keep a sense of perspective on this thread today please.
Indeed, as I'm sure our support at the Liberty stadium will show the respect that is needed in what will be a very strange atmosphere I guess.
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Apparently the ref consulted both managers and they decided they wanted the game to go ahead -im surprised by their decision.
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I'm blown away by the Speed news; and the fact that the game is on at all; and by the team selection.
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Where's Petrov?
Why isn't Jenas playing?
Is Collins playing?
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Petrov is injured.
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I was going to post something less than supportive about the team selection but given other events it doesn't seem remotely important now
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Incredibly poor team selection. Collins, Heskey, Hutton should not have been in. Jenas, Bannan, Herd in the middle, with Zog, Bent and Gabby. Bit, bit of creation and might keep the ball. But no. Fucking Heskey plays.
The news on Speed is an incredible shock, and the game will no doubt be subdued, and the Swansea will almost certainly win.
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Where's Petrov?
Why isn't Jenas playing?
Is Collins playing?
Injured
Not fully match fit
I dont think so
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There's an argument that playing the game is a tribute to him, but I don't know where I sit on it. However we are playing the game and I hope we win.
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Petrov is injured.
Thanks
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Apparently the ref consulted both managers and they decided they wanted the game to go ahead -im surprised by their decision.
Why? He has nothing to do personally with either club. (although I;m not saying Sky money also swayed their decision)
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Its sad about speed but I think the game should go ahead. Saying that I won't be thinking that later
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I thought Colins didnt want to play
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Apparently the ref consulted both managers and they decided they wanted the game to go ahead -im surprised by their decision.
Why? He has nothing to do personally with either club. (although I;m not saying Sky money also swayed their decision)
Manager of their national team and a friend and ex teammate of players on both sides-i feel the game should not have gone ahead and im sure most people would have understood.
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Collins is playing
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Well since they're playing, come on you Villa boys and I hope it's all played in the right spirit.
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It's really beyond belief a player like Emile Heskey gets a game ahead of some of those players on the bench.
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I thought Colins didnt want to play
Rumoured. (unfortunately)
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Link (http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/94766/2/watch-swansea-city-fc-vs-aston-villa.html)
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Heskey ::)
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Link (http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/94766/2/watch-swansea-city-fc-vs-aston-villa.html)
Cheers!
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On a villa note i also find it amazing that heskey starts ahead of some of our bench.
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I'm glad the fans decided a on that tribute rather then a silence.
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Interesting - minute's silence changed by spontaneous crowd applause
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Looks like Given has something in his eye.
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Well as long as it's respectful that's fine. Given was crying there.
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Looks like Given has something in his eye.
Problem with contact lenses apparently.
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I like it, the applause was amazing. Celebrate the man, it seemed right.
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I'm surprised that Routledge didn't start, he always seems to haunt us.
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Delph!! You muppet!
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I'm not sure the 'shit support' chant is appropriate.
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Delph is an extremely massive fool.
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Looks like Given has something in his eye.
Problem with contact lenses apparently.
Hard to wipe eyes with gloves, commentator was guessing.
Booking for Delph in first 2 mins.
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Delph booked already ::)
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"Gary Speed, my lord" should surely be the chosen words if we're gonna sing that silly little song anyway.
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So, the tone is set already with Warnock and Delph diving in needlessly.
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That Delph challenge was ridiculous.
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Pointless tackle let alone pointless booking
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Hutton's boots sum him up.
Absolutely shocking.
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Bloody hell Warnock, I could tackle better then that.
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I still can't get over the fact we start Heskey. Every week. Every. Fucking. Week.
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Have they let us have the ball, yet?
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Just when I thought I had seen the most lightweight midfield in Villa history, it is surpassed.
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Delph has an absolute shocker so far. Heskey should not be playing at all.
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Heskey up front and Gabby on the wing going on the early exchanges.
And who knows, we might get it out our third sometime soon.
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Heskey really is fucking useless
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Heskey. Why?
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I can't believe after Monday that this is the team picked.
Flabbergasted.
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Have they let us have the ball, yet?
We are playing Swansea...we just have to hang in there
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Why is Heskey playing? I mean really, did you see him how he just lost the ball and just stood & watch in the box.
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The applause seemed to go around the crowd.
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Given time wasting after 8 mins.
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I like it, the applause was amazing. Celebrate the man, it seemed right.
I'm probably alone, but I find this new-found desire to break out into applause actually disrespectful. They'll be doing at the Centotaph on Remembrance Sunday next.
A huge crowd standing in silence is of greater significance than doing what football crowds do naturally: make a noise.
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I still can't get over the fact we start Heskey. Every week. Every. Fucking. Week.
It's beyond a fucking joke.
Also, why is it that the players who are utter shit for us every week tend to keep their places?
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Nice hoof from Dunne.
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Why is Heskey playing? I mean really, did you see him how he just lost the ball and just stood & watch in the box.
That was Delph I think. Depends which part you was watching.
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Could have been a pen the way Herd went in. I suppose the ref said he had lost control of the ball.
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Does Hutton know how to whip balls in?
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We are a really rubbish side now aren't we.
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Bent gets his first touch on 12 minutes ...
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Nice hoof from Dunne.
Lowest football-IQ in Premiership. Has to be! Even Zat Knight is an Einstein compared to this moron
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I'd genuinely sub Delph off, because I think he's going to be sent off.
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What a dirty fucking bastard Hutton is.
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Fucking Hutton, you moron.
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More of the same so far. Second to most balls. Bit better last couple of minutes. Movement is shocking though. I struggle to see why we're quite so bad at the basics sometimes
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Hutton. Why?
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I hate Hutton.
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Hutton lucky to stay on there?
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Bloody hell Hutton!!!!!!!!!!!!! Disgraceful!
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Another pointless tackle for another pointless yellow card
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Hutton really is one of the worst players I have ever seen what a shocking tackle.
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Nasty tackle. No need for that.
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Crazy tackle from Hutton. Absolutely crazy.
Not that type of player my arse.
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What the fuck Hutton. Shame the ref didn't give a red. We might actually have a better player at RB then. BTW Luke Young scored two goals in two games yesterday.
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How did he stay on the pitch?
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This is painful to watch
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Hutton, you are a disgrace as well as utterly shit.
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Hutton really is a twat and disaster in waiting in every game. What the fuck was that tackle?
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I agree a red card seems likely
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He lucky to stay on for that, I think. Why is this useless twat in our team?
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Another ball winning tackle from Hutton who is not a dirty player.
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We really have to get some decent fullbacks to complement Clark and Cuellar; Hutton's attitude is just unacceptable, frankly.
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i always sigh a lot when watching villa these days
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Hutton lucky to stay on there?
By the laws of the game, and by the appallingness of the tackle?
Yes, lucky imo.
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Why do we play like we don't want to win? Surely that's what football is all about?
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Hutton's challenge was dreadful
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He lucky to stay on for that, I think. Why is this useless twat in our team?
To save money?
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So we need to take Delph and Hutton off.
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24% possession, against Swansea.
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hutton is a thug pure and simple. he is fucking useless to boot.
heskey and warnock fuck off too.
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We have shit possession. Hmmm, I wonder why.
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Why the hell did we sell luke young and replace him with a more expensive and far worse player in hutton?
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Oh good. Possession is 76% to 24% to them.
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Hutton really is shit, a complete liability both defensively and in terms of the safety of other players.
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Delph, Hutton, Heskey. Herd RB, Jenas, Bannan centre mid. Gabby up top and Albrighton out wide please.
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Going exactly as I thought; a footballing lesson is being meted out to us. Lucky they don't score too many goals.
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Jenas and Bannan can pass the ball as good as any Swansea player, yet they're on the bench.
I'm fed of saying I just don't get what we're trying to do.
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Collins said this week that they spoke about how they hadn't put in any proper tackles against Spurs and addressed it in training this week. By that it looks like GBH was the level of tackle they practised.
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Same old story again , another depressing afternoon lies ahead i feel.
Dreadful style of football.
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Chance good play there.
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We had a shot!!
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Our players have heads, legs and feet the shape of 50 pence pieces.
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Totally shit so far, but that move was quality.
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Why the hell did we sell luke young and replace him with a more expensive and far worse player in hutton?
I wondered that -Mr Clogger says Luke Young requested a move - wanted to go back to London for personal reasons
Not that that is any excuse for buying and playing Hutton
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Oh good. Possession is 76% to 24% to them.
I'm surprised at that. Because according to other people, last week was the only time we played defensively.
At least Bent had the idea to play the ball to Gabby with Angel injured.
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Heskey ought to be subbed right now in favour of BB.
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Hopefully Stan will be back next week and we can play Herd at RB instead of Hutton
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He lucky to stay on for that, I think. Why is this useless twat in our team?
To save money?
I doubt he will be on much less than Luke Young and we paid £4million on him so I doubt it.
Luke Young was not an amazing player but he was a solid, reliable fullback and 100 times the player of Hutton.
Absolutely diabolical business on our part.
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That was nice play with N'Zog, Heskey, Bent and Gabby. Get Jenas on for Delph.
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good play from nzogbia there. decent move
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We won't see changes this half under this useless manager.
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Totally shit so far, but that move was quality.
That's what's annoying. In games this season we've seen them able to put good moves together, yet we rarely see it.
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Delph must have been taught how to take corners by Young.
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Heskey is so useless it's embarrassing sometimes.
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Great touch by N'Zogbia
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Totally shit so far, but that move was quality.
That's what's annoying. In games this season we've seen them able to put good moves together, yet we rarely see it.
That just suggests to me that with a more progressive manager, I think we'd be doing better. We DO have some good players.
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That was a brilliant chance for dunne.
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He lucky to stay on for that, I think. Why is this useless twat in our team?
To save money?
I doubt he will be on much less than Luke Young and we paid £4million on him so I doubt it.
Luke Young was not an amazing player but he was a solid, reliable fullback and 100 times the player of Hutton.
Absolutely diabolical business on our part.
At least we didn't pay a supposed £9mil for him.
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bent stopped a simple goal for dunne there.
the mindset of a manager that picks heskey ahead of lets see - Jenas, Bannan, Albrighton, Ireland, Gardner - the mind boggles
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FFS Heskey.
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That is absolutely hilarious from Heskey.
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Emile just fucked up there.
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Just. Fuck. Off. Heskey
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Totally shit so far, but that move was quality.
That's what's annoying. In games this season we've seen them able to put good moves together, yet we rarely see it.
That just suggests to me that with a more progressive manager, I think we'd be doing better. We DO have some good players.
Yes, mailny in forward areas, so being defensive is not to our strength at all.
Christ Heskey is shit. Even Houllier had dropped him.
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heskey just tackled himself about 5 times then
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WILL SOME GET HESKEY OFF. WTF MAN.
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Afternoon.
Awful so far, being shown how to play football by a newly promoted side is never fun. Alan Hutton is the most piss poor excuse for a footballer I've seen in many a long time.
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Heskey is so useless it's embarrassing sometimes.
And he proves my point. That was fucking useless.
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I fucking despise our team, I really do. I need to get some work done but I know I'm going to stupidly stick with watching this bunch of useless oafs til the end and I dare say get so angry at our lack of any kind of footballing ability that I will still be ranting on here come the night.
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Well, that just sums Heskey: confused about the ball and then dispossessed by one of the smallest guys on the pitch.
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Who lets Delph on corners, propper shit.
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Heskey is so useless it's embarrassing sometimes.
It's amazing how so many can see he's shit, yet his manager will always pick him.
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Why do we always pick a player who can't beat the first man to take corners?
How fucking difficult can it be.
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gabby looks dangerous. we will need him to win this game for us as usual
delphs deliveries need to be better. big chance for him. started with a stupid yellow but he is more mobile than petrov anyway and is growing into the game a bit.
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I fucking despise our team, I really do. I need to get some work done but I know I'm going to stupidly stick with watching this bunch of useless oafs til the end and I dare say get so angry at our lack of any kind of footballing ability that I will still be ranting on here come the night.
No you should despise the manager. He's got the power to change the team but sticks with this same shite!
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Who lets Delph on corners, propper shit.
How can a professional footballer not be able to cross a ball?
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Delph couldn't cross a road.
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Who lets Delph on corners, propper shit.
A bit more height and they might work as he is driving them in but too low.
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Well, some bright points on a horrible afternoon - Warnock is playing very well, and N'Zogbia looks to be in much better form today.
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I fucking despise our team, I really do. I need to get some work done but I know I'm going to stupidly stick with watching this bunch of useless oafs til the end and I dare say get so angry at our lack of any kind of footballing ability that I will still be ranting on here come the night.
We are in the same boat. Loads of work, watching this, and wishing I wasn't. Bit like a horror movie, no idea why you do it to yourself but you can't look away.
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Another positive about bringing Bannan or Jenas on for Heskey, they can also take corners.
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I fucking despise our team, I really do. I need to get some work done but I know I'm going to stupidly stick with watching this bunch of useless oafs til the end and I dare say get so angry at our lack of any kind of footballing ability that I will still be ranting on here come the night.
I despise the way it is set up; some of the muppets in the side; the apparent negativity that has infected the players.
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Heskey must have photos of Randy Lerner with hookers.
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How have we become so utterly shit at set pieces at both ends of the pitch? I could cross better than Delph. You honestly would think at this level every cross would be at minimum decent quality.
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I like herd's energy but his ball retention stats must be poor.
And I can't remember the last time heskey wasn't on his heels when he received the ball.
And surely n'zogbia has to take our corners? Delph's delivery had Bern very poor
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Delph is useless. Utterly useless.
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Delph has been absolutely shocking. Get Jenas on.
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I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that we were sold a dud when we bought Delph. What is he actually good at?
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On the downside, I remain astonished at just how 'technically' poor some of our players seem to be.
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Jenas must be sitting on the bench laughing to himself in disbelief wondering how he can't get a game ahead of the midfielders on show.
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and I despise hearing the supercilious David Pleat being condescending about us; that REALLY hurts.
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I'm already sick to my stomach. It's depressing to see a club llike Swansea pass so eaasily and actually work their way up the field. Meanwhile, we can't string together more than 3 passes and have no build up quality moving up the field. We're garbage.
Delph is god awful today, Jenas or Bannan please.
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I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that we were sold a dud when we bought Delph. What is he actually good at?
Well, he's got a good engine.....
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Heskey must have photos of Randy Lerner with hookers.
Well he is recently divorced, so it must be more then hookers in the picture for it to still have a hold.
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Jenas must be sitting on the bench laughing to himself in disbelief wondering how he can't get a game ahead of the midfielders on show.
Surprisingly after a 2 wee k break he's not fully fit. Will be on for last 30 apparently
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I think Delph would be better if we had another central midfielder in there with him and Herd.. but I also think that Petrov, Herd, Bannan, Jenas and Ireland should be picked before him currently.
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Why isn't our manager making any changes? Just why? Why is he so clueless that some of the players we have on the pitch are lower than shit. Lower.
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Do you think Jenas cares about getting on the pitch with this load of manure Eck has put out?
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Delph very poor, especially with delivery. We have more quality in the squad than has been evident in our recent starting line-ups.
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On the downside, I remain astonished at just how 'technically' poor some of our players seem to be.
Agreed.
Chants of boring boring Villa again, and it's so true.
We play like Birmingham, we really do.
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Do you think Jenas cares about getting on the pitch with this load of manure Eck has put out?
Depends what type of person he is. If he's like Ireland for example, then no, I don't think he'd give a shit.
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'sigh'
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On the downside,
There's an upside DJ?
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Swansea have all the space in the world.
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Is it our fans singing that though? Think it might be.
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We are being mullered here ... amazed we're still level; and have 11 on the pitch.
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Heskey off, Jenas on.. PLEASE?!!!
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How many more games and bad performances do you think it'll take for the fans to really turn on Eck?
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Why does Hutton have to bloody hoof it like that?!
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Another positive about bringing Bannan or Jenas on for Heskey, they can also take corners.
They are also footballers...
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...at least we've steadied after a dismal start...both teams look poor tbh...
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Why does Hutton have to bloody hoof it like that?!
Because he's a useless, talentless thuggish bastard who has no place on a Premier League football pitch.
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Hutton and Heskey have to be replaced at the break. Herd to right back. Jenas in midfield. Ireland or Bannan for Heskey.
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How many more games and bad performances do you think it'll take for the fans to really turn on Eck?
If he sets us up anti football against Man Utd he'll get booed, especially if we lose this match.
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Why does Hutton have to bloody hoof it like that?!
Because he has the technical ability of a turnip.
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Played Gab
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N'Zog has done alright.
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Why does Hutton have to bloody hoof it like that?!
Because he has the technical ability of a turnip.
That is deeply disrespectful to the turnip.
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At times when we do get the ball, we look like a useful side.
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Gabby once again proving he is our best player. N'Zogbia looks a bit better.
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How many more games and bad performances do you think it'll take for the fans to really turn on Eck?
You mean they haven't already?
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Why does Hutton have to bloody hoof it like that?!
Because he has the technical ability of a turnip.
made me laugh that
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We're a bad, bad side I think. Just have a look at how few players move when we have the ball.
Still carry a threat when we get the ball fwds tho. We just don't get into attacking areas often enough
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At times when we do get the ball, we look like a useful side.
HAHA! Hardly. You have low expectations.
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N'Zog has done alright.
Agreed, given the paucity of possession.
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Hutton diving in,Collins launching hopeless passes,Heskey being the human statue,some things don't change.
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HESKEY OFF JENAS ON PLEASE!
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How many more games and bad performances do you think it'll take for the fans to really turn on Eck?
Not too many, I wouldn't have thought. I tend to be on the more upbeat side of things (no, really!) but I'm afraid I have next to no faith in his ability to improve us. Not helped by the current support of the board, to be fair, but we have the players to be doing better than this and in my opinion he is completely failing to make the best of them.
We are boring to watch, devoid of any creativity or imagination (or at least, what there is stays sat on the bench) and lack any kind of obvious purpose beyond 'try and not lose' (as opposed to 'try and win'). I am not filled with hope.
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At times when we do get the ball, we look like a useful side.
yep we Play it through midfield 3 times a game and look good.
Then go back to sky ball.
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When's Lichaj fit?
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If we didn't have Gabby we would be bottom 3 for sure.
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Christ, can anyone in out team retain possession?
And as for Delph, I keep being told that he will be as good as Steven Gerrard, but on the 20 or so times I have seen him now, I think he isn't even good enough for the Championship. Hugely average player who we paid what £8M for??!!
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I can't see how McCleish can moan about the players if he picks the useless lumps.
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Good job Swansea are so powerpuff in the final third.
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On the bright side, as bad as we are, Swansea don't really look like scoring either, and what more could we want from an away game than a 0-0 draw.
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How many more games and bad performances do you think it'll take for the fans to really turn on Eck?
You mean they haven't already?
I mean at the level of Blackburn fans to Steve "New Contact?!" Kean.
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Brilliant stuff between Heskey and Hutton there...why can AM see that Heskey has one use and that's as a destructive forward...
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A big FFS from big 'Eck. SO FUCKING CHANGE IT
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3 yellows already...desperate...
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AM going mental at Heskey and Hutton about not keeping the ball. Note to Alex - pick players who can keep the ball.
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Heskey starting to get universal stick. It took a while.
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Dunne, you wanker.
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Why does Hutton have to bloody hoof it like that?!
Because he has the technical ability of a turnip.
What have turnips ever done to upset you?
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Dunn showing his intelligence and class
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I'll be amazed if we finish this game with 11 men
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hutton and heskey - seriously fuck off
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Three of ours booked. All deserved really. Thats what happens when you are playing a better faster team.
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Even AM was annoyed by that cock up between Heskey & Hutton.
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Dunne is treading a fine line now as well.
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AM going mental at Heskey and Hutton about not keeping the ball. Note to Alex - pick players who can keep the ball.
See, now that just beggars belief! He just looks foolish - is their lack of ability in that regard a surprise to him?!
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Heskey starting to get universal stick. It took a while.
I think it's only ever been the managers who rate Heskey
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Even AM was annoyed by that cock up between Heskey & Hutton.
He has absoutely no right to be annoyed. It's his fucking fault they're playing.
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Hutton and Hesky must look world beaters in training.
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Sub Delph off now, referee should have booked him there.
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Delph off before he gets sent off please.
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I fee for Gabby. He does so much good and constantly it's all undone by someone else.
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Delph could have gotten a second yellow.
FUCKING SUBS NOW
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If McMinge has any balls, he'd be making all three subbs at half-time; this really is awful.
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"We never really got close to Spurs, we watched them play their beautiful trademark football. I don't want to see my teams do that. I'm looking for a big reaction.
"There were a few individual performances which were so unlike these guys and we will see what the reaction is on Sunday."
McLeish added: "We have to atone for the other night. We have to apologise to the fans in the best way possible and that's with a rousing performance at Swansea.
"I know the players are capable of that. The other thing I know is, when they have had a setback before, they have bounced back. But I will look to make some changes."
And yet all he does is pick the same useless players, while ranting and raving from the touchline.
He may as well ask a chimpanzee to design a space-ship and stand there swearing and spluttering when it fails.
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Heskey starting to get universal stick. It took a while.
I think it's only ever been the managers who rate Heskey
TBH I can see why. He's useful inasmuch as he can tear defences apart by his sheer presence. But he can't be a destructive forward when he's being asked to be a creative midfielder...
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At times when we do get the ball, we look like a useful side.
HAHA! Hardly. You have low expectations.
Very low expectations ;)
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Am sat in McDonalds using the free wifi, some excuse for a mother has just told one of her kids to 'shut the fuck up and eat your burger'
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I really hope we lose this one, and the next 5 games. Maybe that will be enough for Lerner and McLeish will see the boot
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Gabby starting to get frustrated. He sometimes gives up in these situation in the past. If it happens in this game we will have no creativity at all.
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"We never really got close to Spurs, we watched them play their beautiful trademark football. I don't want to see my teams do that. I'm looking for a big reaction.
"There were a few individual performances which were so unlike these guys and we will see what the reaction is on Sunday."
McLeish added: "We have to atone for the other night. We have to apologise to the fans in the best way possible and that's with a rousing performance at Swansea.
"I know the players are capable of that. The other thing I know is, when they have had a setback before, they have bounced back. But I will look to make some changes."
And yet all he does is pick the same useless players, while ranting and raving from the touchline.
He may as well ask a chimpanzee to design a space-ship and stand there swearing and spluttering when it fails.
That isn't true. He dropped arguably our best defender Cuellar.
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Why does Hutton have to bloody hoof it like that?!
Because he has the technical ability of a turnip.
What have turnips ever done to upset you?
Never liked 'em, hence the insult!
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At times when we do get the ball, we look like a useful side.
HAHA! Hardly. You have low expectations.
Very low expectations ;)
Not as low as the aspirations of our manager and owner...
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Id bring on Jenas (Delph) and either Bannan or Albrighton for Heskey.
Then play either Bannan or Nzogbia behind Bent and either Nzogbia or Albrighton on the right.
3 Bookings now too. All of them 'defensive' players. Delph has to come off because of his booking. If we had Stan on the bench I would also put Herd at Right back and bring Stan on for Hutton... but we cant. Hutton cant lunge in for a tackle on Sinclair all game now.. its going to be a nightmare. Possibly put Cuellar (RB) or Clark (DM, Herd to RB) on for Hutton
Given
Herd Dunne Collins Warnock
Clark
Jenas
Nzogbia Bannan Gabby
Bent
By 70 minutes for me. Starting with Delph and Heskey off for Bannan and Jenas. Wont ever happen though.. We've been absymal.
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I really hope we lose this one, and the next 5 games. Maybe that will be enough for Lerner and McLeish will see the boot
That's the spirit
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Agent Alex....
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If our players had some brains, they would get the ball to Gabby as much as possible now the young inexperienced full back is on a yellow.
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Actually, you can see why Randy doesnn't come to the games anymore; their gameplay is so unwatchable ...
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Am sat in McDonalds using the free wifi, some excuse for a mother has just told one of her kids to 'shut the fuck up and eat your burger'
When I was in Asda this week (we probably bring it upon ourselves going in to places like Asda and McDonalds), I saw a man say to (presumably, I didn't stop to confirm) his son, who was about 3-4 years old "stop crying, you little twat", can't beat some good firm parental discipline.
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We're shocking.
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STFU Heskey you big baby.
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cant see that guy richards lasting to the end of the game either. gabby has the easy beating of him and now on a yellow. 3 points here if mcleish makes the right substitutions.
feel sorry for bent to be honest. he is playing Blues this season but no supply whatsoever.
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Heskey starting to get universal stick. It took a while.
I think it's only ever been the managers who rate Heskey
TBH I can see why. He's useful inasmuch as he can tear defences apart by his sheer presence. But he can't be a destructive forward when he's being asked to be a creative midfielder...
That was gonna be my point. I can see why SOME managers like him, he suits their playstyle. Big man up front, can (sometimes) put himself about and make a nuisance of himself. But.. to play him in the hole where he lacks the touch, the technique, the passing, the brain.. well, pretty much EVERYTHING needed for that role he lacks. So it makes even less sense than ANY other manager playing him.
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"We never really got close to Spurs, we watched them play their beautiful trademark football. I don't want to see my teams do that. I'm looking for a big reaction.
"There were a few individual performances which were so unlike these guys and we will see what the reaction is on Sunday."
McLeish added: "We have to atone for the other night. We have to apologise to the fans in the best way possible and that's with a rousing performance at Swansea.
"I know the players are capable of that. The other thing I know is, when they have had a setback before, they have bounced back. But I will look to make some changes."
And yet all he does is pick the same useless players, while ranting and raving from the touchline.
He may as well ask a chimpanzee to design a space-ship and stand there swearing and spluttering when it fails.
That isn't true. He dropped arguably our best defender Cuellar.
I did say useless. All of the players who constantly trip over their own feet and give away the ball without contributing anything to the team are still there.
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Well this is as bad as Monday just against a team who aren't as good as Spurs.
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Get Jenas on for Delph and Cuellar on for Hutton.
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Actually, you can see why Randy doesnn't come to the games anymore; their gameplay is so unwatchable ...
Yep, flying the Atlantic is expensive to see a pile of expensive shit, unless it is the new Tracy Emin art exhibit.
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I really hope we lose this one, and the next 5 games. Maybe that will be enough for Lerner and McLeish will see the boot
That's the spirit
Indeed, wanting your own team to lose is the idea. I would rather hope we win the next 5 then goes on to becomes a great Manager.
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How did Delph lose that ball so easily? How is he a footballer? He's a fraud.
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cant see that Alan Hutton lasting to the end of the game either. Sinclair has the easy beating of him and now on a yellow. 3 points here when mcleish makes no good substitutions.
feel sorry for bent to be honest. he is playing Blues this season but no supply whatsoever.
Fixed
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Far too many unforced errors, far too easily closed down, far too reluctant to close the opposition down...just hope we can hold it at 0-0 to h/t then FFS Alex please do something...
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This has been predictably poor.
Swansea pass the ball around nicely, but have little cutting edge.
With a more positive approach they are easily beatable.
No, I can't see our manager understanding that either.
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I could be rearranging my sock drawer rather than watching this rubbish. This is Swansea City we are playing, not Man City.
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Hurry up half-time I need a piss...
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Heskey couldn't win a header in an under-12's game, ffs.
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Actually, you can see why Randy doesnn't come to the games anymore; their gameplay is so unwatchable ...
Yep, flying the Atlantic is expensive to see a pile of expensive shit, unless it is the new Tracy Emin art exhibit.
And if he doesn't come and watch us he has no idea how bad we really are and thus can justify refusing to open his wallet in January to himself.
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Cor, Sky are going to be clamouring to get us on again.
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Surely, surely, he'll make a couple of changes at half-time? Jenas and Bannan to add a little, oh I don't know, skill?
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The board have raped our club. They've actually raped it.
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Turgid, crap, useless, embarrassing,
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The players have no confidence to try and pass it.
There are two players who will always try and pass it regardless of confidence and they're both on the bench (Jenas and Bannan).
Here's a novel idea, rather than worrying about what a team will do to us, why don't we try and make the opposition worry about us instead and try and win the game.
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This is truly as shit as I have seen watching us since 1979. The worst thing is that back in 86 we didn't have much options on the bench. Today most of the bench should be playing. AM is a dire manager. Anybody who thinks otherwise is deluded.
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You don't win games 0-0 by trying to attack.
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The board have raped our club. They've actually raped it.
As per the earlier comments, some perspective please, even from you
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Well we survived the half without Delph and Hutton being sent off, they need to be subbed.
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Wow. Feels like we are two down. That was wank. We've been better in the 2nd half in games this season on the whole so I'm hanging into that right now.
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Our midfield just doesn't work, wrong shape, wrong individuals. They don't protect the back four properly, they don't keep possession and provide nothing going forward. Therein lies the root of our problems.
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Just pants.
Heskey & Delph off, Jenas & Bannan on.
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Did we add an extra 0 when buying Delph - mind you he doesn't even look like a £600,000 player let alone £6m
Hope all of those who wanted him to play instead of Petrov are happy today - let's hope his injury doesn't keep him out for too long
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The board have raped our club. They've actually raped it.
Oh please, control yourself.
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The board have raped our club. They've actually raped it.
Oh do shut up. Have a moan by all means but you don't half come out with some bollocks.
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Actually, you can see why Randy doesnn't come to the games anymore; their gameplay is so unwatchable ...
Yep, flying the Atlantic is expensive to see a pile of expensive shit, unless it is the new Tracy Emin art exhibit.
And if he doesn't come and watch us he has no idea how bad we really are and thus can justify refusing to open his wallet in January to himself.
Would you want this manager spending the money, though?
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Can we change our manager yet?
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This is about as pleasant as watching a block of frozen piss melt on your nice new carpet.
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This is fucking terrible, I'm afraid.
The sight of the centre halves just lumping the ball 60 yards up field at every opportunity is beyond depressing.
As for that utter fucking moron Hutton, what is wrong with him? He is utterly, utterly fucking brainless.
Delph has contributed next to nothing other than to get himself booked within minutes.
Sorry, but if we play much more of the season like this, we are going to be in a relegation fight before we know it.
We also have a near total lack of movement off the ball, the number of times we've had someone in possession with ZERO options because nobody is moving off the ball is just so frustrating. We then end up playing at best a 50/50 ball and giving possession away AGAIN.
This really is dire, and I'd rather we just sacked him now than play like this for much more of the season. This is what he does, this is his thing, he's not going to undergo some damascene conversion to attacking, passing football.
Gash.
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Dross........players frustrated, almost look like they don't know what's next, what to do, static, Gabby getting very frustrated with Bent, Bent invincible again.
The only positive you can take form this is 1) sign Leighton Dyer and 2) the longer it goes on without a goal the more chance Swansea are of conceding, they can't play us of the park possession wise for 90mins that's for sure.
Same old same ole.......
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Well, a very disappointing half, that, although one played under very sad circumstances it must be remembered.
Nonetheless, we seem to have continued in the same vein as the Spurs game (conceding huge amounts of posession), which is poor stuff.
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Watched from about 33 mins in. The commentator was talking about Rooney and Zamora when I tuned in, so I imagine that's a fair reflection on the previous half hours excitement?
From what I've seen it doesn't look so good, not very imaginative football from Villa who still tend to look for the long ball. When it looks like there's a break on, the players check themselves and pass sideways. Where's the urgency? The players look so lethargic.
Swansea don't look that much better either to be honest.
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Good job Swansea for all their neat football don't score many goals. At the minute we don't do neat football or score goals. Surely he has to change it - get Hutton, Heskey and Delph off, get Carlos, Bannan and Jenas on. We can start holding on to the ball in midfield. create some chances and get some service to Bent
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Actually, you can see why Randy doesnn't come to the games anymore; their gameplay is so unwatchable ...
Yep, flying the Atlantic is expensive to see a pile of expensive shit, unless it is the new Tracy Emin art exhibit.
And if he doesn't come and watch us he has no idea how bad we really are and thus can justify refusing to open his wallet in January to himself.
Would you want this manager spending the money, though?
If only Lerner had any choice in who the manager was. It's as if the club won him in a low-budget charity raffle.
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Can we change our manager yet?
I think that's a little exaggerated, calling Alex McLiesh a manager, steady on.
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Did we add an extra 0 when buying Delph - mind you he doesn't even look like a £600,000 player let alone £6m
Hope all of those who wanted him to play instead of Petrov are happy today - let's hope his injury doesn't keep him out for too long
As I've said for a while - I have never seen him have a good game and he's running out of excuses now. Shocking control, wild tackles and seemingly always carrying a yellow card after 5 minutes which means his wild lunges and follow throughs leave you with your heart in your mouth.
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Its GROUNDHOG day every week on here...persisting in playing Herd & Heskey in midfield is crazy, we're crying out for ball players not donkeys...get Bannan and Ireland on you ginger cock!
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The board have raped our club. They've actually raped it.
Can we stop using that word in this context on this board? It's rank.
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huge half time for McLeish this. We lose against this lot who lets face it are piss poor and his position with the supporters will soon drift into untenable. Think Jenas will definitely come on but Hutton and Heskey must go for me.
We need to get footballers into our wide. Bannan, Ireland. Our formation is all arseways too. Lets get back to basics and the formation we should always play 433.
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Herd, Collins, Dunne, Warnock
---Ireland, Jenas, Delph
Nzogbia, Bent, Gabby
we will win if we change to that ...lol
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As if the previous 45 minutes of entertainment wasn't sufficient, I'm now watching Andy Townsend and Alan Curbishley gurning and stumbling through sentences attempting to offer some sort of analysis.
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Just pants.
Heskey & Delph off, Jenas & Bannan on.
yep this is what needs to happen i think most of us could have done better than Heskey in that First half and Delph before he gets sent off
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Can we take 0-0 now and stop watching
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Why is Heskey in the team, at the very best he's a sub striker. We appear to try and shoehorn him in anywhere which defies belief. Mcleish is making me severely doubt him.
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Put Gabby and Bent into the Swansea team and they would score goals for fun.
As we should be doing.
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As if the previous 45 minutes of entertainment wasn't sufficient, I'm now watching Andy Townsend and Alan Curbishley gurning and stumbling through sentences attempting to offer some sort of analysis.
Don't slag of Andy Townsend, please.
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Any more links? First one doesn't work for me.
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Hutton reminds me of that right back small heath had. Another lunatic.
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Super Sunday???? Good grief!
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Hutton reminds me of that right back small heath had. Another lunatic.
We've had some shit full backs over the years, but I struggle to think of any as utterly, utterly brainless as Hutton.
What on earth was he thinking with that challenge?
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I seriously would give Bent another 10mins, take him and Heskey of, move Gabby into the centre and push more bodies into the midfield where they are strongest, let Gabby get the goals, which he will do in a more central role.
We need to shake it up some way as good as Swansea are in possession we are making them look better than they are, good job they haven't a goal scorer.
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There won't be any changes. He's still got his 0-0.
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I genuinely believe that Mcleish can't see whats very obvious. Heskey shouldn't be playing, we should be playing midfielders in midfield and Hutton is diabolical.
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Aside from Gabby.. Herd has been our best player, surprised to see people blaming this on Herd in midfield. Every team has a player who does the Donkey work. Essien, Makelele, Busquets....
No Herd is nowhere near their standard but he's doing his job very well. Its Heskey and Delph that need to be changed.
A midfield of Jenas, Bannan and Ireland would be horrific. You cant play 3 playmakers without a Herd type player because they would get destroyed. Even Arsenal have Song/ had a Viera. Herd is important in letting Bannan and Jenas play their best..
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Hutton reminds me of that right back small heath had. Another lunatic.
We've had some shit full backs over the years, but I struggle to think of any as utterly, utterly brainless as Hutton.
What on earth was he thinking with that challenge?
Hutton ...............Hack em and slash em, thought those days had gone.
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Another vote here for Delph & Heskey off, Bannan and Jenas on. I think Herd has got the energy and the discipline to play the anchorman role behind them, and the three of them are each able to pick a decent pass.
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The next 45 mins will probably decide AM's long-term future. The first 45 was like Spurs but with added lunatic challenges. I'm far from impressed.
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Were just a horrible mess of a team that can get in the way of the opposition from time to time.
God bless all those that pay and travel to watch this shite.
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Hutton reminds me of that right back small heath had. Another lunatic.
except stephen carr is a far better player.
hutton is horrific but I dont think cuellar will improve things there possession wise. which is why herd should move there imo.
What is with Villa and right backs - Watson, Nelson, Charles, Bardsley, Mellberg, Cuellar, Hughes and now Hutton the worst of the lot
mark delaney was decent when fit, luke young when he played right back was cafu in comparison to this useless thug
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Were just a horrible mess of a team that can get in the way of the opposition from time to time.
God bless all those that pay and travel to watch this shite.
Yep, we offer nothing
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Aside from Gabby.. Herd has been our best player, surprised to see people blaming this on Herd in midfield. Every team has a player who does the Donkey work. Essien, Makelele, Busquets....
No Herd is nowhere near their standard but he's doing his job very well. Its Heskey and Delph that need to be changed.
A midfield of Jenas, Bannan and Ireland would be horrific. You cant play 3 playmakers without a Herd type player because they would get destroyed. Even Arsenal have Song/ had a Viera. Herd is important in letting Bannan and Jenas play their best..
Herd at right back, Clark in midfield (playing defensive role), Bannan and Jenas (playing attacking roles), Cuellar in, Collins out. Job done.
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Al the players that can build the play, Bannan, Albrighton and Jenas, are out. Two reliable defenders like Clarke and Cuellar are out where as three unwatchable palyers like Hutton (probably the worst RB ever), Dunne (doesn't find a ground-passage even by mistake), and Collins (see Dunne and Hutton) are in.
I could accept a defeat if that meant a new manager with Mc Leish and Faulkner out. But I think that this won't happen.
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And before anyone says 4 subs, I meant that should be our starting team.
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I seriously would give Bent another 10mins, take him and Heskey of, move Gabby into the centre and push more bodies into the midfield where they are strongest, let Gabby get the goals, which he will do in a more central role.
We need to shake it up some way as good as Swansea are in possession we are making them look better than they are, good job they haven't a goal scorer.
Surely better to try and create a chance for Bent to score. It's harsh to judge him with the service, and he is working hard - he's tracked their left winger back a few times when N'Zog couldn't be arsed.
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Bannan or preferably jenas on for heskey or delph asap I reckon
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no changes - mcleish and peter grant fucking hell laurel and hardy
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Delph still on, matter of time.
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Surely McLeish must see that his tactics are not working, surely.
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No changes!! wtf?
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Poor Shay Given, this game must be torture for him. Brave man.
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Unbelievable. No changes. "Keep the score down lads, great stuff!"
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Why do people want him to make changes? If the starting line-up after his comments about Monday's match are anything to go by, he'd take off Agbonlahor
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Herd booked now, after poor loss of possession.
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Poor Shay Given, this game must be torture for him. Brave man.
Was just thinking that. If I'd lost a friend to suicide that morning I'd most likely be asking to be excused...
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Actually not booked, very surprised.
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Herd booked now, after poor loss of possession.
Was he?
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Early, but we seem more up for it so far this half...mind that was what it was like at the same stage on Monday, and that lasted all of 10 mins...
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I can only guess our manager sees this as 0-0 to the Villa.
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Shove the drums up your arse...
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Lunge from Delph just about got the ball.
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Warnock, who the fuck was meant to get on the end of that?!
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Just seen that shot of Shay Given - clearly in bits - poor guy
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We're hustling a little more...
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I've given up on betting on the first Villa goalscorer, going for the red card instead. Delph off by 60 minutes, mark my words.
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Played Collins
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Hutton that was garbage...
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Hutton. He ain't a bright lad is he?
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Get Jenas on.
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Hutton that was garbage...
TBF, he actually saw the space and attacked it, the ball was a floater so all he could try to do was lob the keeper and if he was a good scorer, he would not be a RB.
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That's two Swans we have taken out of the game. Isn't there a rule about the Queen not allowing that?
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Utter Garbage! Great game for Gary Gardner to play....... oh yeah idiot McCleish loaned him out
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Amazed Dunne didn't collect another yellow-to-red for that challenge on Graham.
We've developed a most unappetizing style of play under McMinge. It is ugly.
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I bet Lita scores.
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Lita is a dreadful striker. Watch him hit the winner.
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I bet Lita scores.
Was just thinking the exact same thing.
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Unlucky Chuck, well gambled.
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N'Zog should have scored there.
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Had anyone remembered that N'Zogbia was on the pitch?
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I bet Lita scores.
I'm glad they said his name, I thought Harewood was coming on when I glanced up.
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I bet Lita scores.
I thought the very same when the commentator said he has never scored against Villa.
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If This was any other club than villa I'd be calling them ugly, dirty and boring.
But because it's villa I think they're the greatest in the world. How odd.
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Utter Garbage! Great game for Gary Gardner to play....... oh yeah idiot McCleish loaned him out
I. Do. Not. Get. That...
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I still think we will win this.
Come on Villa
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So close Gabby
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Lord we've had a shot on target...
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Unlucky Gabby.
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oooooooh Gabby.
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Great shot by Gabby.
I really rate Vorm, he got lucky there but hes a good keeper.
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They are actually helping us out and setting our strikers up better the we are.
Rasper from Gab just pushed over.
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Still too many unforced errors but we seem a lot more positive...
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great away support. hard to cheer the shite being played. we should still win this.
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Jenas or bannan could really make a difference here
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Bent always offside. Like Angle circa 2001
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Swansea aren't that good are they? I mean, the way we've been playing they should be up by now.
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David Pleat: please shut the f++k up. You are such an idiot.
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Well, we're doing a bit better in terms of drive and closing down etc, and Gabby getting on the ball more. If only we had a creative, ball-playing midfielder to bring on who could provide the killer pass...
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fox sports have given up on the broadcast.
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We are on top here, get Jenas on in midfield.
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I hear Sky have installed buttons in their Commentary Box for the soundbites:
Longball by Collins
The Offside flag is up for Darren Bent
Heskey just loses out on the header
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Swansea look very poor, no excuses not to win this game.
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fox sports have given up on the broadcast.
Is there a freshly painted wall or a newly mowed lawn on instead?
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C'mon Villa this lot are crap...
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Shocking pass Warnock
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Jenas or bannan could really make a difference here
That would mean we'd try to win the game...
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Shocking pass Warnock
This is Warnock. What's shocking about it?
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I can only see one team winning this and it isn't Swansea (they are crap)!
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Been disappointed with Swansea. I don't think they've looked a good side at all.
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Herd seems to be what we all want Stan to do. Play the anchor man breaking up play and look to always get the ball moving forwards. I'm starting to really rate him
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This game is for the taking here if we're bold enough.
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oh god make it stop please
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Why did Heskey take so long to get the ball out wide.
Come on AM, get him off and put Jenas on.
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I can only guess our manager sees this as 0-0 to the Villa.
Remember John Gregory's magical 0-0 comment? AMc must think like that.
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yay the satellite feed is back and the score is still the same. Good to know I didn't miss anything. We've had more goal threat then Swansea at least. We look more likely to score when we actually have the ball.
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This game is for the taking here if we're bold enough.
Bold? with this fucking clown in charge?
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Get Jenas and Bannan on here and we'd win this
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Apparently we've got Heskey man marking Swansea's best midfielder.
A better team than Swansea would have humped us today.
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Good closing down their Zog. See, we can do it...
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This game is for the taking here if we're bold enough.
Bold? with this fucking clown in charge?
The only Bold we've got is the kitmans washing powder.
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I think the team think they can win this again, although Swansea are helping us as well at the moment.
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really poor from Delph again. Get Jenas on.
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Really dont know whats happened to Delph. Jenas HAS to come on in the next 5 mnutes.
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I'm sorry but N'Zogbia is fucking toss. He's had 4 months in the first team and I don't remember him doing anything to justify even a tenth of his transfer fee. Utter rubbish.
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Have to say, Delph is poor.
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This game is for the taking here if we're bold enough.
Bold? with this fucking clown in charge?
I'll set 'em up; you knock 'em over.
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Well it's nice to see our defensive centre forward is as good as defending as he is at being an attacking Midfielder...
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Here's JJ...
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JJ
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This game is for the taking here if we're bold enough.
Bold? with this fucking clown in charge?
The only Bold we've got is the kitmans washing powder.
Due to the new financial regime at the club Lerner has ordered him to buy Tesco value washing powder instead instead.
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This game is for the taking here if we're bold enough.
Bold? with this fucking clown in charge?
I'll set 'em up; you knock 'em over.
Unfortunately neither of us is joking
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Hallelujah!! A forward-thinking substitution coming up!*
*If we lose, I reserve the right point out the absurdity of making such a change at this vital point of the game....
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This is abysmal.
Game is there for the taking, and we show no signs of ambition or urgency.
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This game is for the taking here if we're bold enough.
Bold? with this fucking clown in charge?
I'll set 'em up; you knock 'em over.
Unfortunately neither of us is joking
You're right: I made my original comment in hope, not expectation.
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Go on Jermaine.
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Hooray! Jenas on for Heskey
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Emule: cheerio.
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20 minutes late.. but a good change. Next stop. Bannan on for Delph.
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Now bring Bannan on for Delph.
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Thank fuck Heskey off to be replaced by a footballer...
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Good choice of sub. Never ever play Heskey anywhere other than as part of a front 2 please...
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Jenas warming up. Delph? No heskey. About time
That was actually good play from hutton
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Good cross from Hutton; Bent might have been a little more aware.
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Hey Jimmy :-)
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Good to see Jimmy Rimmer there.
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Bloody hell Jimmy Rimmer's piled on some timber
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I'm glad they gave Jimmy Rimmer two seats then.
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Looks a nice day outside
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This game is for the taking here if we're bold enough.
Bold? with this fucking clown in charge?
I'll set 'em up; you knock 'em over.
Unfortunately neither of us is joking
You're right: I made my original comment in hope, not expectation.
due to the current state of things hope and expectation have been downgraded to fuck it and cry
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Now Heskey is off they dont know where to aim the longballs.
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So lucky there
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Fuck I nearly had a heart attack!
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Collins turned horrendously easily, Lita should have scored.
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Fooking hell, thought that was in then from Lita.
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Should be 1-0 down
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Close! Collins totally suckered.
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Good job Lita sucks.
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Jeez that was almost a walk-in...cutting through the midfield far too easily there again...
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Nice passing it. We kept possession well. Then Collins thinks "I've had enough of this..." and we lose it.
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Collins always does that. Gets turned on a sixpence. Should have scored there lita
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This is to be frank a total barrel of monkey spunk. Runty Lerner and McDuff out... >:(
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Nice passing it. We kept possession well. Then Collins thinks "I've had enough of this..." and we lose it.
Av it...
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Hutton done like a kipper
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hutton? RB? "LOL".
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Wasted opportunity.
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How come we take Heskey off and put Jenas on and then suddenly we have lost all momentum.
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Lucky boy Warnock
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do the players realise there is a game to win here?
great block from collins there. hutton is absolutely hopeless
awful tackle from warnock. he has committed 2 certain yellow card offences today.
what an awful side we are
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Lucky the ref saw that tackle differently then.
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Warnock could have been off for that one
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How come we take Heskey off and put Jenas on and then suddenly we have lost all momentum.
I was just thinking that same for Norwich
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For the fifteen minutes or so before he was taken off Heskey had started to link the play effectively.
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Never been so disappointed with a manager as I am now. No Attacking intent at all he's looking for a 0-0 you can't do that in the premier league relegation here we come............
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So he's going to give BB 10 minutes; great!
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fuck all commitment from the players!
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Well Delph survived that somehow.
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Wee Barry on for Delph
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Wee Barry Bannan...Delph off...TBF to AM the right subs...
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Ropey few minutes...
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10 minutes for Bannan to change the game..
Good change though... if late again.
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Well Randy, this is just what we told you was going to happen when you employed this manager.
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Jenas looks a little "frisky" with that tache
Dare I say it, not the first time this season that our ascendancy has stopped when heskey has gone off . . .
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I'm starting to support my Fantasy Football team more than Villa at the moment.
It's all wrong.
Wow, it appears AMc is listening to you guy. first JJ for Heskey, now Bannan for Delph.
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Bent a shadow of his clinical old self
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good ball in by Jennas
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Although Jenas seems to have been taking Midfield lessons from Ireland. He just seems to be ambling around not asking for the ball or marking anyone.
Bannan now on. Hmmm, could we start losing the midfield again which we had gained 10 mins ago.
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ooooh...but he was, quel surprise..off...no the replay shows he wasn't...
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WEll done to Given!
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Collins dives in again. Given to the rescue
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FFS Come on now!
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To be fair to Randy if you employ this fucking useless manager then you may as well sell all your best players.
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Didn't realise Jenas is that slow.
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Collins is doing his best to gift Lita his first goal against Villa.
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TBF, in his absence, we forgot that Jenas was mediocre and not the potential saviour we expected.
Though in fairness it's better than picking Heskey though I'd rather Bannan or G. Gardner got the chance.
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Some terrible crossing from villa.
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Bannan starting to pick out some good passes.
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Jenas and Bannan already much better than Heskey and Delph.
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Fucking Wayne Routledge will score and that will be me putting my laptop through the plasma.
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Jenas doesn't look up for this match at all / is playing like he normally plays.*
*delete as appropriate.
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WOW Creativity now Jenas and Bannan are on!
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Lost all momentum here - it's soo-o-o-o-o-o-o tedious.
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I just can't see us winning this, can see us conceding a late one though
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Bent...
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Zoggy has faded badly through the game; not imposing himself at all.
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Gabby the only goal threat still.
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we are the epitomy of anti football
to be honest I think the players have given up the ghost on McLeish already.
Bannan has probably been our best player since he has come on. good chance for herd there
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Bannan = Gem
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I can just hear the post match interview now. 'tough place to come and to only get beaten by one gaol is a good day's work'
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Gabby is simply class.
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0-0 at 87 minutes, under no pressure at the half way line, and it's passed back to Given. Kind of sums up the afternoon.
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Fantastic cross Gabby
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Pool v City after this will be like clotted cream after sour skimmed milk.
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Watched from about 33 mins in. The commentator was talking about Rooney and Zamora when I tuned in, so I imagine that's a fair reflection on the previous half hours excitement?
From what I've seen it doesn't look so good, not very imaginative football from Villa who still tend to look for the long ball. When it looks like there's a break on, the players check themselves and pass sideways. Where's the urgency? The players look so lethargic.
Swansea don't look that much better either to be honest.
Have a weird feeling we might go for Zamora in Jan. Does everything Heskey is supposed to do without looking like an extra from Gerry Cottle's Circus.
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I smell blood! Come on villa
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C'MON!! - one last push for a lucky win!
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NEED A GOAL!
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Gabby MoM quite right. The only player whose looked any better than belonging to a mediocre also ran team...
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3 mins? who the fuck wants to see that?
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Why didnt Jenas hit that!?!
This is what happens when our best midfielders are playing.. look at all those goal scoring chances we've had since they came on. Yeah we may not have scored... but when you extrapolate those chances over 90 minutes.... its much more likely to score....
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This has got better since Jenas and, more so, Bannan have come on, but it's a bit too fucking late. It's so boring, I don't think I've seen such a negative Villa team before. We're set up to spoil, it's bollocks.
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That didn't sound pretty.
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Bannan has to play for his speed of thought/passing alone
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FFS why do we always do this
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Collins you dick
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Collins. Jesus Christ. What was the point of that?
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For Fuck Sake McCleish needs sacking
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Another bloody yellow card. Ugly, ugly, ugly.
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Thank fuck... Load of uninspiring wank
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This has got better since Jenas and, more so, Bannan have come on, but it's a bit too fucking late. It's so boring, I don't think I've seen such a negative Villa team before. We're set up to spoil, it's bollocks.
I would say it has got better with Bazza on but Jenas has been worse the Heskey in the middle since he came on.
Going to be 0-0 now, I wonder if that means McCleish's Mrs is in for a treat tonight.
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That was trash - I'm embarrassed about my team's ugly style and lack of ambition.
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What a load of fucking shit.
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Crap...both teams mediocre, neither deserving better than a 0-0 draw. A dismal advert for the bulk of the premiership...
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What a waste of a good afternoon....
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That was one of the worst 90 mins football i've seen in a long time. I'm not saying we need to be entertainers but come on Alex, you surely must see.
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If the plan is to stay tight and nick a few 1-0 wins over a season, let's at least nick a few fucking 1-0 wins over a season.
If McLeish plays Heskey rather than a proper midfielder ONE MORE FUCKING TIME he should be OUT.
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That was trash - I'm embarrassed about my team's ugly style and lack of ambition.
Yep. Complete retrenchment from European ambitions to penny pinching mid to lower table crud.
Fucking booooo.
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That was trash - I'm embarrassed about my team's ugly style and lack of ambition.
Too right.
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Good solid draw again. Not much more to say. McL must consider 0-0 a win!