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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Matthius on June 15, 2011, 12:25:20 PM
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I for one am a yes and will cast my vote imediatly.
Thanks
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already renewed earlier this week.
UTV
The Doc
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No.
But that's because I'm in the process of emigrating to Australia.
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No.
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Already renewed it was like someone said we were all happy when we signed Bent so we have to take it on the chin and see what happens. Im not happy but i support the Club!
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No, cant afford to. Decided a while back
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Big yes from me; in fact I already have done. UTV
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yes, worth it just to be in the pub instead of shopping with Mrs!
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Yes.
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Already done it, before the end of last season.
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No. Purely becouse i aint happy with Mcleish's qualities as manager.
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Already have done.
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Yes, without hesitation.
I think anyone not doing so because of the choice of manager is a fool.
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Renewed and added a 3rd ST.
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Not even a question. Yes, of course.
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Yes I have. They're my club.
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Already have done
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Yep already done. The manager and players have no impact on my decision.
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Yes but only so I can throw it at McLeish the moment we conced our first goal.
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Yes, without hesitation.
I think anyone not doing so because of the choice of manager is a fool.
Well, I'll be a fool .. and please stop the holier than thou attitude.
I didn't have mine last year and have explained why in The Manager thread. I was going to buy 2 this for the coming season, but I'm now not going to bother. It's not a protest, but a "consumer" choice. I admire the ones that have renewed and up until now have been of the same vein, but there are lines that should not be crossed and the actions and indeed the attitude of this Board over the last few days means that in my opinion, they have shot well over it.
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I have renewed.
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Already have.
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Yes, I'm in for the long haul. This manager selection is a minor blip it might even go well...who knows?
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Already done
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I've renewed, but am incredibly gloomy about the future.
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Yes, without hesitation.
I think anyone not doing so because of the choice of manager is a fool.
Well, I'll be a fool .. and please stop the holier than thou attitude.
I didn't have mine last year and have explained why in The Manager thread. I was going to buy 2 this for the coming season, but I'm now not going to bother. It's not a protest, but a "consumer" choice. I admire the ones that have renewed and up until now have been of the same vein, but there are lines that should not be crossed and the actions and indeed the attitude of this Board over the last few days means that in my opinion, they have shot well over it.
Not holier than thou but an opinion.
All the attention seekers planning to protest aren't pausing to worry about whether they represent me are they?
I don't think he's the correct choice but am prepared to give the man a chance and feel that the board have enough credit in the bank to be trusted over this one.
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Yes I will be.
It'll only ever be the ridiculously high prices or ill health that eventually stop me going.
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I'm going to buy season tickets for seats around me as an extravagance. There will be so many available and I can strectch out. Maybe have a little nap.
Just kidding. Its a no I'm affraid.
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No. Purely becouse i aint happy with Mcleish's qualities as manager.
This
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I've renewed, but am incredibly gloomy about the future.
Same here.
The social side of it keeps me going.
That said, I don't blame anybody for not bothering, there will be plenty of offers available with the below par attendances.
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What about supporting through thick and thin ? Two wembley appearences and everyone was loving being a Villa fan. Just cos times are hard doesnt mean people can give up. (excluding people who havent renewed because financially it doesnt suit.) They'll all be swanning back when we're fighting for the top 6 again.
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I would love to, and yes I would. I had one for many years, and through some dire times. It's my club, and they are in my blood. If I was there it would be automatic as soon as the season ended.
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Next season isn't a problem, more bothered about the season after and which league
we will find ourselves in !!! Will be a very expensive regular journey to watch the likes of Barnsley et al.
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Already renewed (with villa streams)
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Yes, without hesitation.
I think anyone not doing so because of the choice of manager is a fool.
Well, I'll be a fool .. and please stop the holier than thou attitude.
I didn't have mine last year and have explained why in The Manager thread. I was going to buy 2 this for the coming season, but I'm now not going to bother. It's not a protest, but a "consumer" choice. I admire the ones that have renewed and up until now have been of the same vein, but there are lines that should not be crossed and the actions and indeed the attitude of this Board over the last few days means that in my opinion, they have shot well over it.
Not holier than thou but an opinion.
All the attention seekers planning to protest aren't pausing to worry about whether they represent me are they?
I don't think he's the correct choice but am prepared to give the man a chance and feel that the board have enough credit in the bank to be trusted over this one.
Did I say I was protesting. You've called everyone that doesn't renew a fool. I'm sure that there are a lot that aren't renewing and also not part of some Internet campaign either
As for the Board having enough credit, by and large I would agree with you, but not with this appointment, and for what it's worth, to a man, the Villa fans that I have spoken to ST Holders and fair weather have said the same.
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Already have done.
I'm a sucker for my football.
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Of course I will. Hold onto your seats!!!
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What about supporting through thick and thin ? Two wembley appearences and everyone was loving being a Villa fan. Just cos times are hard doesnt mean people can give up. (excluding people who havent renewed because financially it doesnt suit.) They'll all be swanning back when we're fighting for the top 6 again.
Believe me, I have been through some thick and a load of thin in the past. I don't need to prove anything to anyone.
It's my choice and I'm sure that I won't be alone.
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Yeah I've already done it. Losing my job or just collapsing under the weight of the voluntary sector holding everything else up (Laughs hysterically.........then nervously) would be the real resaons I'd stop.
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Yes, without hesitation.
I think anyone not doing so because of the choice of manager is a fool.
Well, I'll be a fool .. and please stop the holier than thou attitude.
I didn't have mine last year and have explained why in The Manager thread. I was going to buy 2 this for the coming season, but I'm now not going to bother. It's not a protest, but a "consumer" choice. I admire the ones that have renewed and up until now have been of the same vein, but there are lines that should not be crossed and the actions and indeed the attitude of this Board over the last few days means that in my opinion, they have shot well over it.
Not holier than thou but an opinion.
All the attention seekers planning to protest aren't pausing to worry about whether they represent me are they?
I don't think he's the correct choice but am prepared to give the man a chance and feel that the board have enough credit in the bank to be trusted over this one.
Did I say I was protesting. You've called everyone that doesn't renew a fool. I'm sure that there are a lot that aren't renewing and also not part of some Internet campaign either
As for the Board having enough credit, by and large I would agree with you, but not with this appointment, and for what it's worth, to a man, the Villa fans that I have spoken to ST Holders and fair weather have said the same.
I just think that the choice of manager is a foolish premise on which to decide. It's like there's a list with Manager A = renew, B= Not, C= Yes, D= Yes, E= No etc.
I've put up with Doug Ellis, Billy McNeil and Steve Hodge so I can cope with Alex McLeish as manager and hope that he proves me wrong.
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Yes, without hesitation.
I think anyone not doing so because of the choice of manager is a fool.
Well, I'll be a fool .. and please stop the holier than thou attitude.
I didn't have mine last year and have explained why in The Manager thread. I was going to buy 2 this for the coming season, but I'm now not going to bother. It's not a protest, but a "consumer" choice. I admire the ones that have renewed and up until now have been of the same vein, but there are lines that should not be crossed and the actions and indeed the attitude of this Board over the last few days means that in my opinion, they have shot well over it.
Not holier than thou but an opinion.
All the attention seekers planning to protest aren't pausing to worry about whether they represent me are they?
I don't think he's the correct choice but am prepared to give the man a chance and feel that the board have enough credit in the bank to be trusted over this one.
Did I say I was protesting. You've called everyone that doesn't renew a fool. I'm sure that there are a lot that aren't renewing and also not part of some Internet campaign either
As for the Board having enough credit, by and large I would agree with you, but not with this appointment, and for what it's worth, to a man, the Villa fans that I have spoken to ST Holders and fair weather have said the same.
I just think that the choice of manager is a foolish premise on which to decide. It's like there's a list with Manager A = renew, B= Not, C= Yes, D= Yes, E= No etc.
I've put up with Doug Ellis, Billy McNeil and Steve Hodge so I can cope with Alex McLeish as manager and hope that he proves me wrong.
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No...
For a number of reasons. Mates have moved away + have kids now and cannot go, so no social aspect for me. I live over 100 miles away and missed 6 games last season due to travel etc... Plus the money aspect. The manager situation is the final nail. 18 years coming to an end.
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Can't afford it on a student budget, but i'll still go down as often as possible.
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I already have.
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Renewed last week. Over the last few years I've become increasingly disillusioned with top flight football and, added to this potentially ludicrous appointment and the prospect of sterile football, the temptation to stay away was even stronger. BUT I'm a Villa fan and not being at VP when Villa are playing just wouldn't feel right, plus there's the social side/sitting with mates I've sat with for years. An added bonus this year may be the opportunity to boo loudly. Haven't had a good boo for years.
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Nope, several hundred pounds and 19 afternoons is quite a lot of time and money to invest on something that's quite likely to make me more miserable than I normally am.
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Already done, £1770 spent onn Saturday. I jokingly said to the giirl in the ticket office that I will be back for a refund if we appointed McLeish. I won;t though as I support the club and have no allegiance to any individuals anymore.
I am expecting car crash tv down at Villa Park next year. I a genuinely think if we get off to a bad start that we will go down, I am going to put money on it I think it is such a possibility.
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Yep. Manager doesn't bother me too much, well it does - but won't impact on me attending. I'll go as long as I can afford it and enjoy it.
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Yes - not done it yet but will be , as much as AM would not be my choice I support Aston Villa Football club and will continue to do so while I still have breath in my body
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Haven't done as yet. Has anyone else had almost 'desperate' calls from the club to renew in the last couple of weeks? I did recently - my answer was: I want to see who's going to be manager first. It turns out I've got until the 14th July to keep my existing seat. I will in all likelihood renew - I like the social side of meeting other regular fans. I think the criticism of AM is getting out of hand mind.
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No, it's not just about Mcleish himself but also the way intense fan opinion has been brushed aside and we have been treated with utter contempt. If I won't look forward to the games or enjoy them why pay money I barely have for the privilege.
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Renewed already - I fear the worst for the coming season but at least I will be able to witness the entire debacle unfold.
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Not this year, can't justify the price of petrol from central London any more.
Shame really but needs must.
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A big, fat nope from me.
I'd rather sit at home setting light to rolled up £20 notes than watch the drivel that I think that skirt wearing, Iron Bru guzzling, haggis munching, ginger sweat box will make us play!
The future's not bright, it's ginger and sweaty.
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Already done.
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Yes. Inevitably I will.
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Those who haven't renewed will miss it like hell at first but I found after the first season I really didn't miss going any longer, number of reasons but the main one being there were 5 of us had season tickets and travelled to most away games but gradually we all stopped going as we seemed to realise as one by one people dropped out that it was more a social thing.
If it weren't for my 8 year old son I very much doubt whether I would bother going even if the manager were Guardiola, the team ran out to 'White Riot' and Heskey was in goal dressed as a clown.
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Didn't renew last year and wont this year.
Got too many financial commitments like mortgage and wedding and no increase in income. At least It looks like I will only be missing anothe dull chapter in the history of Aston Villa.
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Hey Randy, currently 42% aren't renewing. Has the penny dropped yet?
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simple answer is no ...... i useally have 6 s/t for family but think i might wait till crimbo and get everyone a half season ticket
well if the football is as bad as i think it will be only got to put up with it for few weeks...
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Already done.
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Do people understand what the word 'renew' means?
If you don't currently have a season ticket then you can't renew it. So anyone voting 'no' when they don't have one anyway renders it meaningless.
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Do people understand what the word 'renew' means?
If you don't currently have a season ticket then you can't renew it. So anyone voting 'no' when they don't have one anyway renders it meaningless.
I think some people are in no position to apply intelligence.
The world is ending, hadn't you heard?
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No x2, due to financial reasons I'm afraid.
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Do people understand what the word 'renew' means?
If you don't currently have a season ticket then you can't renew it. So anyone voting 'no' when they don't have one anyway renders it meaningless.
It also excludes those who think McLeish would be such a good appointment they'll be rushing down to the ticket office to get a season ticket when they don't currently have one!
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The world is ending, hadn't you heard?
The only signs i've seen have said 'GOLF SALE'.
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renewed 3 weeks ago.don't agree with mcliesh but i'm villa for life
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I have renewed.
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I may reduce my annual online Villa mug purchases to one if we get the ginger. If he has us winning our first six games I am willing to order a second parcel. Still undecided about the AVFC badge car freshener though. Depends on how well he does a Mark Anthony on SHA at his press conference.
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VCTM jnr starts playing on Saturdays this season , so I asked if he wanted a seasson ticket or play - he thought he would upset me if he gave me a decision I would not like.
I told him to just be straight and say what he wants to do - season ticket kicked well into touch!!
Last night he said he was pleased we were not renewing as McLeish may be manger, although he did go onto say could he watch Liverpool instead.
Will be saving approx £1500 per season.
Have supported Villa since 1962 and seen worse times however I find this whole situation bewildering - i do have until July 15th to decide so I might be back on here after we have signed Messi (More likely Barton :( )
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Not renewing, had already made my mind up before the end of last season. I'm sure I'll go down to quite a few games but wait for the offers instead. I found myself sitting there for a few of the games waiting for it to be over, (Sunderland, wolves, Wigan). Also the people sitting by me are a bunch of idiots and
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Renewed x3 on Saturday night. Every season I try and justify the expense and the awful way football is heading but the outcome is always the same.
Might take advantage on the non-renewers to move to better seats just as I did the end of season when DoL got the boot. Every cloud and all that.
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Renewed on Tuesday morning. Up the Villa. Always.
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If Alex McLeish is manager then I will not be renewing.
We shall ignore the fact that if it was Guardiola or Mourinho I still wouldn't be renewing as I can't afford it as that is less rebellious.
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I don't have a season ticket, but I usually manage to get to a bunch of games each season.
I expect I'll manage to get to a bunch of games this coming season.
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I've thought it through and the bad news for everyone is that I will be renewing my season ticket.
Sorry.
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Yes, i'll be renewing and i'll do most of the away games again no doubt, but i'm not going to knock anyone who want's to vote with their feet, as much as a shame as it would be.
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Renewed mine - no intention of claiming a refund.
We haven't got a crowd of top managers lined up at the gates of Villa Park. If Big Ek can convince Randy he can sort out our problems and he gets the job, we are not in the postion to complain.
He has got to be given a chance. If he keeps us safely in the top half of the league, gets us through a few rounds of the cups, makes a few of our "less enthusiastic" players to pull their fingers out, signs a few useful players etc. He will deserve to be respected.
The best way to piss off the great unwashed of Small Heath would be to prove AM is a good manager and they were at fault for not letting him manage them to a better position.
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Mines free but I wont be in attendance.
Even though I didn't like Geddy (Come back! All is forgiven) I couldn't stand the amount of abuse he got.
That however will be nothing compared to if we go 1 nil down at home in our first game. I don't want to sit through it.
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Yes, without hesitation.
I think anyone not doing so because of the choice of manager is a fool.
Well, I'll be a fool .. and please stop the holier than thou attitude.
I didn't have mine last year and have explained why in The Manager thread. I was going to buy 2 this for the coming season, but I'm now not going to bother. It's not a protest, but a "consumer" choice. I admire the ones that have renewed and up until now have been of the same vein, but there are lines that should not be crossed and the actions and indeed the attitude of this Board over the last few days means that in my opinion, they have shot well over it.
Not holier than thou but an opinion.
All the attention seekers planning to protest aren't pausing to worry about whether they represent me are they?
I don't think he's the correct choice but am prepared to give the man a chance and feel that the board have enough credit in the bank to be trusted over this one.
Did I say I was protesting. You've called everyone that doesn't renew a fool. I'm sure that there are a lot that aren't renewing and also not part of some Internet campaign either
As for the Board having enough credit, by and large I would agree with you, but not with this appointment, and for what it's worth, to a man, the Villa fans that I have spoken to ST Holders and fair weather have said the same.
I just think that the choice of manager is a foolish premise on which to decide. It's like there's a list with Manager A = renew, B= Not, C= Yes, D= Yes, E= No etc.
I've put up with Doug Ellis, Billy McNeil and Steve Hodge so I can cope with Alex McLeish as manager and hope that he proves me wrong.
I've put up with all 3 too, but I thought that I had seen the end of the day that we are looking at a Manager who has done nothing in the English game apart from relegate his club twice (don't mention their fluke in Feb) and who is known for playing negative defensive football to boot. The Noses I know are laughing their bollocks off and they are in the Shit for a number of reasons.
I always went in despite of Ellis, 'cos I loved my Club and if this had been 10 years ago, I would probably well would have renewed too. However, Lerner and the rest have promised us a "Bright Future". The underhand appointment of this Manager and their total disrespect of 95% of the Villa Supporting public would to me, show perhaps they are showing their real colours amongst all the "razzmatazz" of the last few years.
I don't expect Villa to be Man United, but I expect more than this. I'm at a stage in my life now where despite my heart saying one thing, I know my head is right. I'm not saying at at all that I won't go at any point, but they will be 2 tickets down from this household.
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Renewed already - I fear the worst for the coming season but at least I will be able to witness the entire debacle unfold.
.. and this is another reason. Villa Park will not be a pleasant place to watch football in the coming season. Look at the furor of Houllier and that was only a minority. Fights caused by disenchantment that was misguided. In this case the disenchanted will be a majority.
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Do people understand what the word 'renew' means?
If you don't currently have a season ticket then you can't renew it. So anyone voting 'no' when they don't have one anyway renders it meaningless.
Ok smart arse .. I won't be renewing my Season Ticket that I didn't have last year .. is that ok?
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Already have. Lower Holte 3 x adult.
We will do the same next year and the one after that, and the one after that etc, etc
Always have, always will.
Villa till I die.
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:'(
Sad to say that after 16 years i wont be if we appoint Mcleish.
This game is all about the fans and without us there is no club. With him and Roy Aitken (again) it will be like the O'dreary years all over again!
I cant believe that the board will go ahead with this after everything they have done for us over the last few years it just shows you that the fans dont count and its a business decision.
His record isnt the best either;
Relegation Battles with Motherwell, Poor results with Rangers with fans protesting to kick him out, 2 relegations with blues. For every one good thing there are 2 bad!! Win percentage of 36%!!!!! Shocking!!
Sad sad day!!
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He no longer has Aitken with him, as he followed Dolly to the Middle East. He has that odious prick that goes by the name of Peter Grant.
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I've contemplated the last few close season on whether to get a season ticket or not, but have always shelved out.
After 18 consecutive seasons, enough will be enough if we bring in McLeish. Not for the fact he managed the Blose, but the fact he managed to get a club relegated TWICE. And also as someone whose football is played with the charisma of a wet flannel.
So the answer is a resounding NO. The same can be said of my old man. Which is a shame really, as this would be the first season he can enjoy a concessionary ticket.
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Already renewed - dreading it already IF they give the job to McLeish.
What a dreadful day for the club.
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My first thoughts were that I won't renew if McLeish comes. I'm still telling myself that I won't as I type this...
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Renewed last week.
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Yes, I'm in for the long haul. This manager selection is a minor blip it might even go well...who knows?
Fair play Bren! Nice to see someone optimistic
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My work patterns dictate that I'm on shift Wednesday nights and all day Saturdays. Whether or not this will turn out to be a good or bad thing I don't know, but I'll still go down if there's a Sunday k/o. I'm one of probably very few Villans who regularly hopes that k/o times get moved!
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I renewed a couple of weeks back.
Whether Mcleish gets the job makes no difference.
If season ticket sales are massively down, it will be interesting to see what happens if Mcleish with Bentys 15 goals by Xmas has fired us into the top four.
Record half season sales ? Like rats jumping back on a resurfacing ship ?
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maybe this thread should have been
will you be renewing for next year truthfully
if you hadnt already done so?
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Already have.
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Yes.
Villa til I die.
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Yes, 3 of us.
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I've renewed, but am incredibly gloomy about the future.
Same here.
The social side of it keeps me going.
That said, I don't blame anybody for not bothering, there will be plenty of offers available with the below par attendances.
Haven't renewed yet, but will - my renewal date's dictated by when my credit card statement's due. It may be something to do with reverse [or even forward] psychology, but as soon as someone tries to convert me to their views/cause, the opposite is more attractive for me. Anyway, it's each to their own at the end of the day. If non ST holders get a better deal for individual matches I can live with that.
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If they appoint McLeish not a chance in hell. Not going to fork out £100 + in air fares + every thing else
every 2 weeks to watch the dross he will turn out.
Will get a season tick for local club here.
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Wishing I hadn't renewed on Saturday if Mcleish is going to be appointed. The atmosphere at VP was bad enough with the few Ged haters last season, I dread to think what it'll be like next season.
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Yes. Despite the board having a mental wobble this week I will go again.
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Yes, without hesitation.
I think anyone not doing so because of the choice of manager is a fool.
No because of finance and other things that are going on during the season, but will go to as many as I can regardless of the boss.
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I will go down as many times as I can like I do most seasons depending on how things pan out (for me rather than the Villa).
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I've heard a story today that people taking their tickets back for renewal are being refused. Anyone else heard this?
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I completed the finance application form last week but haven't signed the finance agreement yet. It's sitting at home whilst I wait to see whether we will appoint McLeish or not. I really don't fancy coughing up £500 to watch 19 games of anti-football served up by one of the most defensively minded coaches I've ever had the misfortune to witness.
If he gets announced today I'll be making the call to VP to see if I can cancel my application. Although I love my seat it's not as if I'll struggle to get a ticket for any game if I do decide to go.
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I've heard a story today that people taking their tickets back for renewal are being refused. Anyone else heard this?
I don't see how they can possibly do that.
For anybody who they say that to, go straight to Trading Standards.
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I suppose I'm going to be accused of not being a proper Villa fan, but my thoughts at the moment are not to renew mine and my lads season tickets.
I've had mine for over 30 years, I've seen the lows of relegation to the Third Division to the highs of Rotterdam, from Tommy Doc, to Billy McBingo, but I've never been this disenchanted with Villa.
The Proud history, bright future strapline seems a million light years ago to me, as we seem to be settling back into comfortable mediocrity with an appointment like FlippinEck McUseless.
I will always love my club from the heart but this is testing my resolve, going on holiday next week so I'll see how I feel after that.
I will have missed my renewal date.
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I feel for you Oscar.
You should post that in the Generals thread.
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How can you renew regardless how you feel about the club I am a die hard fan 34 years now in total. If you can sit there and cheer him your not a fan but if you renew and give him hell well done. For gods sake he has come from small heath does that not mean anything? For the past four seasons we have give him hell at the Villa now we are supposed to applaud him? Like hell we should.
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How can you renew regardless how you feel about the club I am a die hard fan 34 years now in total. If you can sit there and cheer him your not a fan but if you renew and give him hell well done. For gods sake he has come from small heath does that not mean anything? For the past four seasons we have give him hell at the Villa now we are supposed to applaud him? Like hell we should.
I didn't want him to come as I don't see why he is qualified to manage us, but it is stupid to stop supporting the club because he managed small heath. As much as I hate them I love Villa more.
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How can you renew regardless how you feel about the club I am a die hard fan 34 years now in total. If you can sit there and cheer him your not a fan but if you renew and give him hell well done. For gods sake he has come from small heath does that not mean anything? For the past four seasons we have give him hell at the Villa now we are supposed to applaud him? Like hell we should.
Congratulations, a contender for the most stupid post of the week award.
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How can you renew regardless how you feel about the club I am a die hard fan 34 years now in total. If you can sit there and cheer him your not a fan but if you renew and give him hell well done. For gods sake he has come from small heath does that not mean anything? For the past four seasons we have give him hell at the Villa now we are supposed to applaud him? Like hell we should.
Have you ever heard of Peter Withe?
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My mate has one, he can't make all the games due to work and we discussed going halves and splitting the games, but after the board have clearly shown they have no ambition we have gone off the idea so NO from me
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My mate has one, he can't make all the games due to work and we discussed going halves and splitting the games, but after the board have clearly shown they have no ambition we have gone off the idea so NO from me
What if there's significant investment in the squad over the summer? I'm not questioning your right to not buy one, but if the transfer deals show ambition might you change your mind?
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No I won't change my mind, he might but after speaking to him i doubt it.
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Just rang and renewed mine - not what I wanted manager wise by a long way but he is here now so might as well support him (and always the team) as to not too is a certain recipe for disaster.
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No season ticket for me as I live in China, but I shall still be grubbing around for tickets for every home and way game when I am back in Blighty.
McLeish wasn't my first choice - hell, he wasn't even my fifth choice - but as Villa manager I shall applaud him and cheer the lads on in every game. He needs to be given the same chance and support as any new manager
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100% no!
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are you really 34+ dazzyg?
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He's not our manager yet.
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Sorted L4, the usual.
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I renewed the first day I was able to, I had a bonus from work that would've been frittered away otherwise. I still would've renewed whoever was manager but if the football next season is as bad as the worst case scenario suggests then I think I'll struggle for 2012/13. I'll give it a fair chance first and decide at the time.
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I already have renewed, I renewed weeks ago, If I had not renewed yet I would......and I will next year!!!
McLeish was not the man I wanted (Moyes if your interested)! But he is here now! I would not allow 1 man, or any number of men for that matter, stop me going to see the Villa! It's in my blood!! I will be there till I'm carried off in my Claret & Blue box, and then........Holtender in the Sky!!!
Just my opinion, for those who are interested!!!
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I renewed some time ago and still would have done despite the depressing news from Villa Park. Like many of you, I didn't want him and have grave concerns about how it's all going to work out, but this is my club and I'm not going to stop supporting or attending because of a poor appointment. Perhaps it'll be like the Graham Turner, Billy McNeill or (even worse) Tommy Cummings era - we survived all of those and enjoyed success once again after they'd gone. And - who knows? - it may actually turn out to be a reasonable appointment: not an inspired one, but one that will enable us to make a slight improvement on last season. As I've said, I didn't want him, I still don't want him, but if he's to be the manager of Aston Villa I cannot wish him to fail.
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I renewed weeks ago. Who the manager is had nothing to do with the decision as far as I was concerned. The same goes for who the players are.
All that mattered was that I had the time, money and retained an interest in watching Villa.
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I suppose I'm going to be accused of not being a proper Villa fan, but my thoughts at the moment are not to renew mine and my lads season tickets.
I've had mine for over 30 years, I've seen the lows of relegation to the Third Division to the highs of Rotterdam, from Tommy Doc, to Billy McBingo, but I've never been this disenchanted with Villa.
The Proud history, bright future strapline seems a million light years ago to me, as we seem to be settling back into comfortable mediocrity with an appointment like FlippinEck McUseless.
I will always love my club from the heart but this is testing my resolve, going on holiday next week so I'll see how I feel after that.
I will have missed my renewal date.
Oh stop being so bloody melodramatic.
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Renewed a week after the season ended and happy too. Can't stand the thought of not attending Villa Park every other week.
Best of luck Alex, you will need it !!!!
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I feel for you Oscar.
You should post that in the Generals thread.
He'll ignore it and spout some more bollocks anyway. I wouldn't bother. It's a shame mate, there will be a fair few that won't renew I feel and the "walk up" factor that we have relied on means that that could significantly drop too
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Lower Holte last 2 years for 3 of us but haven't renewed yet as keep looking for 3 together in back of Lower Tier Of Doug Ellis or Trinity as old man has dodgy knee for lots of steps and sitting/standing up /down all through game...if cant find 3 together suitable, wont renew
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How can you renew regardless how you feel about the club I am a die hard fan 34 years now in total. If you can sit there and cheer him your not a fan but if you renew and give him hell well done. For gods sake he has come from small heath does that not mean anything? For the past four seasons we have give him hell at the Villa now we are supposed to applaud him? Like hell we should.
Congratulations, a contender for the most stupid post of the week award.
Now that's really some accolade.
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I didn't renew last season whilst MON was still here as the home form had become dull and predictable and I stupidly thought Europe would mean a lot of sunday games which I hate.
When Houllier came I thought I might get a half season ticket but as our form went downhill i didnt bother.
When he left I imaginedIi would get one again this coming season but now I wont. However I will go to a few games and give AM and the team my full support. Who knows we may even be good!! I will than get a half season ticket.
This may well make me a fickle fan!!
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You sugarbag.
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Renewed this morning. Extremely disappointed about how the club have gone about their business recently and feel they need a footballing man on the board because they are clueless when it comes to managers.
I'll be willing the team to prove me wrong all season.
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Lower Holte last 2 years for 3 of us but haven't renewed yet as keep looking for 3 together in back of Lower Tier Of Doug Ellis or Trinity as old man has dodgy knee for lots of steps and sitting/standing up /down all through game...if cant find 3 together suitable, wont renew
I have got bad knees, which is a pain at away games particularly. However, the Middle Trinity is only a short climb if you get in the bit towards the front. Judging by the amount who are not renewing, you will have the pick of any seats you want. To coin a phrase: 'speak to Nicky Keye'.
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I posted last night and said i wouldnt after 16 years!
Speaking to a few mates who i go with tonight and they arent either. Thats 4 of us not renewing. Why pay to help fund the £2m compensation to the Blues.
I dont think they realise what this will do to our club.I have lost all faith in Mr Lerner and the board. £10m in fees to managers over 9 months!!
Cant believe that all that they have done for this club has been blown out of the water by one misguided decision.
We are the laughing stock of the league and are probably at the lowest point in our Premiership History!
How many of our squad will be handing in transfer requests now? First Mcleish signing James Mcfadden!
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Fuck it, I'm renewing.
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I posted last night and said i wouldnt after 16 years!
We are the laughing stock of the league and are probably at the lowest point in our Premiership History!
Will you be any happier by not going?
As a supporter of Aston Villa, will you be less embarrassed by what you perceive of us being the 'laughing stock of the league' by not being at the match, skulking in the corner of a pub or in the checkout queue at Tescos?
I suggest that you review the situation. The time will come when you get a warm glow again just by glancing at Villa Park from the Expressway.
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...if he's to be the manager of Aston Villa I cannot wish him to fail.
That's the spirit, Frank.
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Haven't renewed. Wasn't going to before Houllier left.
The thought of paying for about 15 minutes of Stephen Ireland's wages was too much for me to stomach.
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My Mrs told me tonight that, apparently, I wasn't going to renew.
Needless to say, any doubts that I had have now been removed.
I will renew on Saturday.
UTV
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Yes, already have done. Without my season ticket i wouldnt have got to have classic away days like Bohemians, Blackpool, Everton & Arsenal.
Bring on next season.
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Yes, renewed two weeks ago. And still would have knowing who the new manager is. My only issue would be money (ie my lack of it) and the time I have to give up for travelling. But its my team. Roll on next season
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Hey Lee i like you mate,you talk a lot of sense. Also you have done what i thought was impossible,had the last word over that Chris Smith .
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I must admit i was one who said no flipping way, but hearing people say never mind, support the club, i just cannot make up my mind got money ready in bank and lower holte renews today but still can't make up my mind HELP !
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VCTM jnr starts playing on Saturdays this season , so I asked if he wanted a seasson ticket or play - he thought he would upset me if he gave me a decision I would not like.
I told him to just be straight and say what he wants to do - season ticket kicked well into touch!!
Last night he said he was pleased we were not renewing as McLeish may be manger, although he did go onto say could he watch Liverpool instead.
Will be saving approx £1500 per season.
Have supported Villa since 1962 and seen worse times however I find this whole situation bewildering - i do have until July 15th to decide so I might be back on here after we have signed Messi (More likely Barton :( )
Christ its amazing what the fixture list does to you ...enjoyed Fulham last season so much its swung me towards deciding to renew after all. Come on you Gers !!!!
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Hey Lee i like you mate,you talk a lot of sense. Also you have done what i thought was impossible,had the last word over that Chris Smith .
Probably best if you stay out of it if you haven't got anything constructive to add.
Lee and I had a difference of opinion, it doesn't need silly buggers new to the site trying to wind it up.
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I've not renewed yet, I'm going to leave it a few weeks.
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Not renewing for salsa dancing reasons but I will watch Sunday games at Villa Park.
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Three seats in B1, not renewing.
Lerner et al have lost my confidence, and I don't believe they know what they are doing. All this "Proud History, Bright Future" stuff was all for nothing. Five years of good work down the drain in a week. I refuse to believe McLeish was the best and only applicant for the job. Forget he was at the Blues he is just a poor manager.
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Not renewing for salsa dancing reasons but I will watch Sunday games at Villa Park.
Thats the best euphemism I've ever heard
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Already renewed before McLeish announcement. Got to support whoever is there, if he fails the fans will be proved right, if he does well Randy was right.
If the Man United board had listened to the fans Fergie would've been sacked before they won anything.
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I'm going to Salsa all the way to the number 8 bus, then do an Irish jig up to the Bartons and then Morris dance past Aston Hall to Villa Park and renew.
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Renewed this morning, (not related to the appointment or the fixtures!). I am a fan of 36 years of good standing and whoever the manager is, I will be there if I possibly can be.
One thing I don't get is the non-renewers justifying their stance. We all have different circumstances to deal with but living in leafy Herts, all the locals have to pay around double the amount to renew their st's.
I say get behind the manager and the team, everything else is counter productive!
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Would like to vote but cannot as didnt have a season ticket last year though had one the year before.Was going to get a season ticket even if it was mclaren and have defended Lerner to the hilt as felt he was more than your Gillet,Hicks and Glazer American know nothing owner.Even Gillet and Hicks appointed Hodgson a manager of genuine credability!!!Would they have dared appoint Moyes to Liverpool or Howard Kendall?
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Chris smith had to bite did'nt you . Thank god i dont have to sit anywhere near you at villa park.
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Just renewed today, bought one for the mrs as well, that's 3 tickets this year
Bit tight on the funds but hey ho, got to do something at 3 on a Saturday, 4 on a Sunday, 8 on a Monday, 7.45 on a Wednesday, 12 on a Saturday or Sunday etc..........
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Haven't had one for a couple of years but am getting one for this season.
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Chris smith had to bite did'nt you . Thank god i dont have to sit anywhere near you at villa park.
You do but you don't know it. He's the fella sat right behind you that encourages the team and blows kisses at the manager. (Just joking Chris ;))
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Renewed weeks ago - Aston Villa is the club I support. Owners, management and players are all transient.
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No I haven't renewed but only due to work commitments, I would have renewed otherwise.
We have had unpopular managers before & will have again, but nothing can take away the feeling of following the greatest club in football.
VTID
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Renewed today. Was seriously considering my options due to finances. After watching Big Eck's press conference and his obvious excitement about getting the team in for pre-season training and getting stuck in, I phoned straight away and got it sorted. Bring on the new season!!
See you in K3, UTV!
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Chris smith had to bite did'nt you . Thank god i dont have to sit anywhere near you at villa park.
If you did I could help you with your grammar.
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Chris smith had to bite did'nt you . Thank god i dont have to sit anywhere near you at villa park.
If you did I could help you with your grammar.
Why is she ill ? :)
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I dont think so mr smith,not without any teeth. Have a good day.
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I dont think so mr smith,not without any teeth. Have a good day.
Chris is indeed toothless, he never read that Pam Ayres poem.
He can still help you with your grammar though.
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I dont think so mr smith,not without any teeth. Have a good day.
Didn't realise you were a dentist. I've got a dull ache just below one of my molars, any ideas?
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I dont think so mr smith,not without any teeth. Have a good day.
Didn't realise you were a dentist. I've got a dull ache just below one of my molars, any ideas?
Got a cist that flares up about once a year below my gum at the back, went to the QE about it a few years ago, the guy there said that they could get it out, but then cheerfully told me that there was a 10% chance of paralysis. No fucking chance.
Did I do the right thing pooligan?
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According to the Poll above, it seems that 2 out of 5 "fools" are seriously considering not renewing or taking out a Season Ticket this coming campaign
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According to the Poll above, it seems that 2 out of 5 "fools" are seriously considering not renewing or taking out a Season Ticket this coming campaign
Half of those voting 'no' probably don't even have season tickets.
The McLeish backlash bought a lot of nutters out of the woodwork.
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According to the Poll above, it seems that 2 out of 5 "fools" are seriously considering not renewing or taking out a Season Ticket this coming campaign
Do you really think that it's a reliable indicator?
I still can't fathom the sort of reasoning that would let the choice of manager change your mind about going down. Isn't there one part of you that thinks you might be wrong and that he could do a good job for us?
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According to the Poll above, it seems that 2 out of 5 "fools" are seriously considering not renewing or taking out a Season Ticket this coming campaign
Half of those voting 'no' probably don't even have season tickets.
The McLeish backlash bought a lot of nutters out of the woodwork.
The polls are all flawed due to people pissing about, at least 9 people voted to have Alan Curbishley as our next Manager.
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According to the Poll above, it seems that 2 out of 5 "fools" are seriously considering not renewing or taking out a Season Ticket this coming campaign
Do you really think that it's a reliable indicator?
I still can't fathom the sort of reasoning that would let the choice of manager change your mind about going down. Isn't there one part of you that thinks you might be wrong and that he could do a good job for us?
Oh I get it, it's not a reliable indicatorAccording to the Poll above, it seems that 2 out of 5 "fools" are seriously considering not renewing or taking out a Season Ticket this coming campaign
Half of those voting 'no' probably don't even have season tickets.
The McLeish backlash bought a lot of nutters out of the woodwork.
Nutters because they don't now want renew ?
See I don't get this as being totally black and white. I was going to buy 2 this year, but have decided against it. Nothing will stop me going, but I'll go when I feel like it. As mentioned above, if this would have been 10 years ago, then I would have with no question, but this unprecedented approach by this Board have changed quite a few peoples minds.
I don't think that we should tar people as being nutters because they are not renewing because of McLeish, because the opposition is on different fronts. Some because he came from them, other because the Board have re-aligned their "Bright Future" along with the farcical rhetoric that they have published recently and others that think that plain and simple think that he's not a very good manager based on his managerial Career so far.
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According to the Poll above, it seems that 2 out of 5 "fools" are seriously considering not renewing or taking out a Season Ticket this coming campaign
Do you really think that it's a reliable indicator?
I still can't fathom the sort of reasoning that would let the choice of manager change your mind about going down. Isn't there one part of you that thinks you might be wrong and that he could do a good job for us?
It's an indicator as good as any at the moment.
As for me, I think that he can do no more than an OK job.
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Sorry the formatting of my last 2 posts is out. Blame my VNC connection
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I renewed a couple of weeks ago. Is there any way of telling how many actually renew/don't renew - i.e. anywhere we can get figures for ST's sold last year vs those sold this year?
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According to the Poll above, it seems that 2 out of 5 "fools" are seriously considering not renewing or taking out a Season Ticket this coming campaign
Do you really think that it's a reliable indicator?
I still can't fathom the sort of reasoning that would let the choice of manager change your mind about going down. Isn't there one part of you that thinks you might be wrong and that he could do a good job for us?
It's an indicator as good as any at the moment.
As for me, I think that he can do no more than an OK job.
It's not any sort of indication though, is it. Anyone can click on that, they don't have to live in the country or even be a Villa fan.
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Nutters because they don't now want renew ?
No no no Lee, you get me wrong. Anyone who is sufficiently pissed off with this appointment or the board or just football in general is perfectly entitled to make that decision, I have no problem whatsoever with that.
I was thinking of the amount of people who will have seen the poll and clicked on 'no' because "He's a fucking Bluenose ****** and I don't want him at The Villa" whether they have a ST or not or whether they intend to renew or not.
Nutters in other words.
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No no no Lee, you get me wrong. Anyone who is sufficiently pissed off with this appointment or the board or just football in general is perfectly entitled to make that decision, I have no problem whatsoever with that.
I was thinking of the amount of people who will have seen the poll and clicked on 'no' because "He's a fucking Bluenose c*** and I don't want him at The Villa" whether they have a ST or not or whether they intend to renew or not.
Nutters in other words.
That sums up my feelings on it better than I could have hoped to.
Incidentally, I'd wager that the poll being set up so soon after the news broke would have also skewed the figures somewhat. I have a sneaking suspicion that some of those who voted no genuinely thought that they wouldn't, but have had (or will have) a change of heart. I'm not saying that your standpoint isn't valid lee, but in the heat of the moment, I'd say a few people would have said things without fully thinking it through.
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According to the Poll above, it seems that 2 out of 5 "fools" are seriously considering not renewing or taking out a Season Ticket this coming campaign
Do you really think that it's a reliable indicator?
I still can't fathom the sort of reasoning that would let the choice of manager change your mind about going down. Isn't there one part of you that thinks you might be wrong and that he could do a good job for us?
It's an indicator as good as any at the moment.
As for me, I think that he can do no more than an OK job.
It's not any sort of indication though, is it. Anyone can click on that, they don't have to live in the country or even be a Villa fan.
Your entitled to what you think, but it works both ways. It's never completely indicative, but to discount it would be wrong.
You don't get why people are not renewing and that's fair enough, and Villa will chuck out some spin out about sales figures, but they haven't had their finger on the so far so I don't expect them to do now
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You don't get why people are not renewing and that's fair enough, and Villa will chuck out some spin out about sales figures, but they haven't had their finger on the so far so I don't expect them to do now
I don't think they will need to spin too much, I fully expect ST sales to be roughly where they were last season.
We live in a bubble of righteous indignation here on t'internet at times.
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I dont think so mr smith,not without any teeth. Have a good day.
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I'm not renewing but I'd actually made that decision way before McLeish, due to the increasing disenfrachisement I feel from the Villa these days. Yeah, I know, it's not my club, it's Mr Lerner's, and he can do what he likes with it. Just don't expect me to fund his lunacy (in even a tiny way) anymore. I'm sure those of you who have renewed will enjoy your season, but I can't wait to start not going :)
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Yes - but more for my son`s sake than mine
Will certainly think twice before going to away games though
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Already done it. Would have loved us to have appointed a truly inspirational, young, forward thinking gaffer but it doesn't really make much difference. I'm Aston born, AV are in my blood, have always been my team and I will continue to support them in the flesh for as long as I am able.
UTV!
VTID!
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I can't wait to start not going :)
You cant say that, not in the same way as a person of the opposite persuasion may say "I can't wait to start going"
How can you be impatient to start not doing something when you have already stopped? Unless you are presently being held against your will within the confines of Villa Park, you would have in effect started not going from sometime shortly after the final whistle of the Liverpool game. Or at least from the moment you reached your decison to stop going. Your action to embark on an inaction has already commenced, therefore you cannot by definition look forward to it. ;)
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Ive renewed. Couldn't imagine ever not going.
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Nutters because they don't now want renew ?
No no no Lee, you get me wrong. Anyone who is sufficiently pissed off with this appointment or the board or just football in general is perfectly entitled to make that decision, I have no problem whatsoever with that.
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No probs Dave. I get where your coming from
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You don't get why people are not renewing and that's fair enough, and Villa will chuck out some spin out about sales figures, but they haven't had their finger on the so far so I don't expect them to do now
I don't think they will need to spin too much, I fully expect ST sales to be roughly where they were last season.
We live in a bubble of righteous indignation here on t'internet at times.
They will only be forthcoming with the figures if they increase. If it goes the other way, then they may not. The General has been asked a few times for the "return" factor and he has not answered the question. Perhaps I should ask Nicky
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Yes - but more for my son`s sake than mine
Will certainly think twice before going to away games though
But if you go to away games, you are supporting the team rather than the club. We only get financial benefit from away cup games.
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Just as I thought my mind was made up..... along comes the possibility of losing another of our better players.
The Ginger one`s comments and vibes coming out from the club seem to indicate that next season the squad will consist of youth and experience. Nowt wrong with that but it`s the type of experience that worries me - players from struggling clubs or Championship ?
I understand the guys who renew whatever "`cos it`s the Villa and we support the club rather than the Owner/Manager/Player etc" but there`s more to it for me and others - i.e the expense (travelling 200 miles round trip). Last year was poor and I can count on one hand the matches I went to where me and VCTM jnr came away saying "that was good".
The dreams and aspirations that were sold to us by Lerner have faded somewhat and whilst I love my club as much as ever (started going down circa 1961) we appear to be consolidating our perception of being a "mid table club" with survival being paramount.
I have been through far worse times supporting and following the Villa however this pre season is currently very disappointing - quality players leaving, late launch of kit, underwhelming kit sponsor, unpopular managerial appointment and no sign of "mouth watering" signings. We havn`t even got a first choice keeper. Hopefully players will arrive before August but the comments from McLeish seem to indicate he will be assessing the squad later rather than sooner?
Nothing has happened in the last 6 months to make me want to part with my hard earned cash for those two season tickets .
Players reported wages doesn`t help either - Ashley Young earning as much in a day than I earn in a year !!! It`s the economics of the mad house.
Will I renew? It`s up to you Mr Lerner and Mr McLeish ...... persuade me.
And for all those who accuse me of not being a real fan ..... I have followed this club through the turmoil of the late 1960`s and 1970`s and the mediocrity of late 1980`s/ 1990`s.
I grew up being told by my late grand father and late father that Villa was a great club - it still is in my eyes, however when we appear to be striving for maintaining that mediocrity rather than competing for titles or Cups it all seems a bit pointless.
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Just as I thought my mind was made up..... along comes the possibility of losing another of our better players.
The Ginger one`s comments and vibes coming out from the club seem to indicate that next season the squad will consist of youth and experience. Nowt wrong with that but it`s the type of experience that worries me - players from struggling clubs or Championship ?
I understand the guys who renew whatever "`cos it`s the Villa and we support the club rather than the Owner/Manager/Player etc" but there`s more to it for me and others - i.e the expense (travelling 200 miles round trip). Last year was poor and I can count on one hand the matches I went to where me and VCTM jnr came away saying "that was good".
The dreams and aspirations that were sold to us by Lerner have faded somewhat and whilst I love my club as much as ever (started going down circa 1961) we appear to be consolidating our perception of being a "mid table club" with survival being paramount.
I have been through far worse times supporting and following the Villa however this pre season is currently very disappointing - quality players leaving, late launch of kit, underwhelming kit sponsor, unpopular managerial appointment and no sign of "mouth watering" signings. We havn`t even got a first choice keeper. Hopefully players will arrive before August but the comments from McLeish seem to indicate he will be assessing the squad later rather than sooner?
Nothing has happened in the last 6 months to make me want to part with my hard earned cash for those two season tickets .
Players reported wages doesn`t help either - Ashley Young earning as much in a day than I earn in a year !!! It`s the economics of the mad house.
Will I renew? It`s up to you Mr Lerner and Mr McLeish ...... persuade me.
And for all those who accuse me of not being a real fan ..... I have followed this club through the turmoil of the late 1960`s and 1970`s and the mediocrity of late 1980`s/ 1990`s.
I grew up being told by my late grand father and late father that Villa was a great club - it still is in my eyes, however when we appear to be striving for maintaining that mediocrity rather than competing for titles or Cups it all seems a bit pointless.
It's funny you mention that if we are now facing up to midtable/survival. I do wonder what vision was sold to Bent when he came and whether that has changed.
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Stating the obvious - not every team is going to be able to gain access to the Champions League. Man City have joined the other clubs with greater resources than our owner - Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham and Liverpool (?) - so achieving a Europa League place wont be a "given" either. On the other hand, I believe that the doom mongers in the media talking of another relegation battle are letting the anoyance with the club not doing their business via the media taint their views - plus a lot are MON lovers who haven't forgiven RL for letting Greard have the money for Bent.
I have renewed - did so before GH left - and don't feel that I'm accepting mediocrity. However a dose of realism is probably required for some regarding what can be achieved these days. We are never going to be able to compete on salaries with Man Utd, Man City and Chelsea (at least not until the arabs and Abramovic get bored and sod off); probably not with Tottenham and Arsenal and possibly Liverpool. Until FIFA/UEFA man up and fully impliment their Financial Fair Play scheme, the way forward is probably through the development of younger players - home grown or bought - with the occasional "named" signing for strategic positions and decent runs in the cup competitions.
However, I still feel that, as long as we can repair the defence, we can compete for 5th or 6th - I am yet to be convinced that "King Kenny" and the Liverpool revival are the real deal and Tottenham's defence inspires as little confidence as ours. To get any higher will rely on 2 of the other 4 teams having a bad season.
Although, like most of us, I still hope/wish for better, accepting this as reality for the immediate future I will be satisfied as long as we play football that is good to watch and stay clear of the lower half of the table.
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NorthY Villan wrote
"Although, like most of us, I still hope/wish for better, accepting this as reality for the immediate future I will be satisfied as long as we play football that is good to watch and stay clear of the lower half of the table."
;)
A tad optimistic ?
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NorthY Villan wrote
"Although, like most of us, I still hope/wish for better, accepting this as reality for the immediate future I will be satisfied as long as we play football that is good to watch and stay clear of the lower half of the table."
;)
A tad optimistic ?
Which......or both? 8)
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Stating the obvious - not every team is going to be able to gain access to the Champions League. Man City have joined the other clubs with greater resources than our owner - Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham and Liverpool (?) - so achieving a Europa League place wont be a "given" either. On the other hand, I believe that the doom mongers in the media talking of another relegation battle are letting the anoyance with the club not doing their business via the media taint their views - plus a lot are MON lovers who haven't forgiven RL for letting Greard have the money for Bent.
That argument is getting a bit tired now, though.
It's not just doom mongers in the media, it is also lots of our supporters who can see lean times ahead. Worrying, it is starting to look like the media were right all along.
If Downing leaves as rumoured, in the space of two weeks we'll have appointed a manager who specialises in relegation, been turned down by Wigan's manager, and sold our two best players within weeks of the end of the season, having sold our best player in each of the two previous summers.
You don't really need to have an agenda of some sort to see the above as the actions of a club going nowhere.
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NorthY Villan wrote
"Although, like most of us, I still hope/wish for better, accepting this as reality for the immediate future I will be satisfied as long as we play football that is good to watch and stay clear of the lower half of the table."
;)
A tad optimistic ?
Which......
Both NYV :)
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Just been to hand in my 4-month plan to renew my season ticket and felt good about doing it. I, like most, didn't have McLeish as the manager we wanted, but he's here, and the ecitement I felt when down Villa Park hading the form in makes me look forward positively.
I think McLeish will set us up how MON did and we'll get similar results. The question is, can he take it a little bit further and win something? I'm looking forward to the new season.
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Stating the obvious - not every team is going to be able to gain access to the Champions League. Man City have joined the other clubs with greater resources than our owner - Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham and Liverpool (?) - so achieving a Europa League place wont be a "given" either. On the other hand, I believe that the doom mongers in the media talking of another relegation battle are letting the anoyance with the club not doing their business via the media taint their views - plus a lot are MON lovers who haven't forgiven RL for letting Greard have the money for Bent.
That argument is getting a bit tired now, though.
It's not just doom mongers in the media, it is also lots of our supporters who can see lean times ahead. Worrying, it is starting to look like the media were right all along.
If Downing leaves as rumoured, in the space of two weeks we'll have appointed a manager who specialises in relegation, been turned down by Wigan's manager, and sold our two best players within weeks of the end of the season, having sold our best player in each of the two previous summers.
You don't really need to have an agenda of some sort to see the above as the actions of a club going nowhere.
Why am I not surprised that you had this respone PBN....... You always seem to see the down side...of MON,,,,of the appointment of GH etc etc etc
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Finally got round to renewing... Are we getting new season cards this year or reusing last seasons ones?
I only ask 'cos I didn't go to the Liverpool game and gave my card to my mate, need to know if I've gotta get it back off him.
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We will be getting new season cards
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Ok cheers mate. Any idea when we get AVTV access?
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We will be getting new season cards
Yes. New card along with a welcome pack. Due to be poppin through your letterbox end of July early august in time for the new
Season.
Went down to VP yesterday and renewed mine. Always excited this time
Of year. The anticipation. Getting down to the ground for the first home match. Marvelling at the beautiful pitch and it's great condition. And what the season has ahead.
It's early September when I come back to earth a reality bites ha!!
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Stating the obvious - not every team is going to be able to gain access to the Champions League. Man City have joined the other clubs with greater resources than our owner - Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham and Liverpool (?) - so achieving a Europa League place wont be a "given" either. On the other hand, I believe that the doom mongers in the media talking of another relegation battle are letting the anoyance with the club not doing their business via the media taint their views - plus a lot are MON lovers who haven't forgiven RL for letting Greard have the money for Bent.
That argument is getting a bit tired now, though.
It's not just doom mongers in the media, it is also lots of our supporters who can see lean times ahead. Worrying, it is starting to look like the media were right all along.
If Downing leaves as rumoured, in the space of two weeks we'll have appointed a manager who specialises in relegation, been turned down by Wigan's manager, and sold our two best players within weeks of the end of the season, having sold our best player in each of the two previous summers.
You don't really need to have an agenda of some sort to see the above as the actions of a club going nowhere.
Why am I not surprised that you had this respone PBN....... You always seem to see the down side...of MON,,,,of the appointment of GH etc etc etc
Err, no, i thought GH was a good appointment at the time, and I was quite happy to praise the positives of O'Neill.
Where's the "up" side of recent events in terms of the image it portrays of the club?
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Stating the obvious - not every team is going to be able to gain access to the Champions League. Man City have joined the other clubs with greater resources than our owner - Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham and Liverpool (?) - so achieving a Europa League place wont be a "given" either. On the other hand, I believe that the doom mongers in the media talking of another relegation battle are letting the anoyance with the club not doing their business via the media taint their views - plus a lot are MON lovers who haven't forgiven RL for letting Greard have the money for Bent.
That argument is getting a bit tired now, though.
It's not just doom mongers in the media, it is also lots of our supporters who can see lean times ahead. Worrying, it is starting to look like the media were right all along.
If Downing leaves as rumoured, in the space of two weeks we'll have appointed a manager who specialises in relegation, been turned down by Wigan's manager, and sold our two best players within weeks of the end of the season, having sold our best player in each of the two previous summers.
You don't really need to have an agenda of some sort to see the above as the actions of a club going nowhere.
Why am I not surprised that you had this respone PBN....... You always seem to see the down side...of MON,,,,of the appointment of GH etc etc etc
Great, give us the positives of everything since O'Neill jumped ship.
Apart from Bent signing, we've lurched from one fuck up to another.
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Blame Paul Faulkner
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How many season tickets have we sold?
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I haven't renewed my son's or mine. Just had enough of premiership football in general, the expense, the long journey (each game is an away day for us) and simply the whole football experience. I decided before the end of last season that I would have a year off from watching Villa and then see how I felt.
This will be the first season since 1972 that I will not see a live Villa game. I have travelled up to all home games since 1979 (apart from spells living abroad) plus lots of away and foreign trips. Simply put supporting the Villa is/was a big part of my life. My 12 year old son has also been a season ticket holder for the last 5 years.
The AM appointment has softened the blow to not renew. I firmly believe mangers don't change styles just because they change clubs. The thought of watching 1 up front and 5 in midfield at home makes gardening and DIY sound quite appealing.
Always a Villa fan, but for this season at least ,it will be by watching the highlights on MOTD.
Dorset Villa
PS) Sorry Percy but you will be one sale down for each issue of H&V next season
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As Dave is on holiday I will do it for him. Take out a subscription!
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Stating the obvious - not every team is going to be able to gain access to the Champions League. Man City have joined the other clubs with greater resources than our owner - Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham and Liverpool (?) - so achieving a Europa League place wont be a "given" either. On the other hand, I believe that the doom mongers in the media talking of another relegation battle are letting the anoyance with the club not doing their business via the media taint their views - plus a lot are MON lovers who haven't forgiven RL for letting Greard have the money for Bent.
That argument is getting a bit tired now, though.
It's not just doom mongers in the media, it is also lots of our supporters who can see lean times ahead. Worrying, it is starting to look like the media were right all along.
If Downing leaves as rumoured, in the space of two weeks we'll have appointed a manager who specialises in relegation, been turned down by Wigan's manager, and sold our two best players within weeks of the end of the season, having sold our best player in each of the two previous summers.
You don't really need to have an agenda of some sort to see the above as the actions of a club going nowhere.
Why am I not surprised that you had this respone PBN....... You always seem to see the down side...of MON,,,,of the appointment of GH etc etc etc
Great, give us the positives of everything since O'Neill jumped ship.
Apart from Bent signing, we've lurched from one fuck up to another.
According to most on here, O'Neill "jumping ship" was a positive.
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We will be getting new season cards
Yes. New card along with a welcome pack. Due to be poppin through your letterbox end of July early august in time for the new
Season.
Went down to VP yesterday and renewed mine. Always excited this time
Of year. The anticipation. Getting down to the ground for the first home match. Marvelling at the beautiful pitch and it's great condition. And what the season has ahead.
It's early September when I come back to earth a reality bites ha!!
It's great isn't it? The weeks leading up to the season I'm always optimistic. Even last year I was.
New shirt, new pitch, new players
I can't wait to see if Albrighton, Ireland, Gabby and Bent can all click.
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I can't wait to see if Albrighton, Ireland, Gabby and Bent can all click.
The only thing that will click next season is your neck, as your head jolts upwards to see any one of our 10 outfield players launch the ball out of our box.
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renewed a while ago and have got ticket already for Fulham away(best day out in the division)
looking forward to it already.
UTV
The Doc
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According to most on here, O'Neill "jumping ship" was a positive.
I think you'll struggle to find anyone who thinks that MON bailing five days before the start of the season was a positive.
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Just done it.
Down from 4 to 3 this year as the other one now works weekends.
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Renewed mine some weeks ago.
Upper North Stand, my days as an amateur contortionist continue.
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I renewed mine ages ago. I can't pretend to be giddy with excitement at the new season mind.
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No, cant afford to. Decided a while back
Im renewing today and splitting the season ticket with my Father-in-law
Christ knows why!
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I know of 2 long term St Holders that are now reconsidering after yesterdays developments.
Has the Board advised on where sales are at the moment compared to last year?
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Big fat no, from me. Selling our best player every close season was bad enough, but now we are selling our two best players. New signings simply will not reach their level quickly.
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just the fact that you not going to see Downing running out in a Villa shirt next season is a good enough reason to renew
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Renewed mine some weeks ago.
Upper North Stand, my days as an amateur contortionist continue.
I like the Upper north
A bit like the Holte without having to stand up
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just the fact that you not going to see Downing running out in a Villa shirt next season is a good enough reason to renew
Even if it means seeing players like Ireland and Warnock on the pitch who couldn't even give a greater shit than Downing?
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I've renewed again and can't wait for the season to start. Regardless of what is happening or has happened I absolutely love that walk up to Villa Park on match days and can't wait to get that feelin' again!
UTV!!
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Renewed mine some weeks ago.
Upper North Stand, my days as an amateur contortionist continue.
I like the Upper north
A bit like the Holte without having to stand up
I've only ever sat in the North stand once and I had to learn how to walk again afterwards, was it designed by and for midgets?
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I am not a ST because I live in Spain but in response to the OP, I will be making just as many trips back to watch the Villa this season as I would normally. I try to get to around 12 games a season or so and I would hope that people who are able to go to games will do so, the lads need us more than ever.
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If people are really considering it and having doubts about renewing, having doubts in the first place already tells you not to bother.
I honestly wouldn't waste a lot of money where you won't be getting any value for money.
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just the fact that you not going to see Downing running out in a Villa shirt next season is a good enough reason to renew
Even if it means seeing players like Ireland and Warnock on the pitch who couldn't even give a greater shit than Downing?
your probably right,
but weve all got our favourite overated waste of space type of player and Downing was mine, so i'm not complaining
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Finally got round to it yesterday which sums up my general apathy around them atm.
Not sure who we're going to see but better than being nagged by the wife to do stuff.
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I paid for a deposit on a flat instead. After watching all of the football last season I can't say I'm going to miss it.
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I've only ever sat in the North stand once and I had to learn how to walk again afterwards, was it designed by and for midgets?
I'm 5'2". I sat in the North Stand once last season. I came away with bruised knees.
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The very back row of the lower North has legroom the size of two fag papers. The upper has plenty of room
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The very back row of the lower North has legroom the size of two fag papers. The upper has plenty of room
We did sit in the Upper!
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I renewed today,really I shouldn't have because money is very tight this season.I hope to god it is worth it this season.
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If people are really considering it and having doubts about renewing, having doubts in the first place already tells you not to bother.
I honestly wouldn't waste a lot of money where you won't be getting any value for money.
Sorry if I've misunderstood but are you suggesting that if anyone has doubts about their clubs potential for success this year then they shouldn't go to the games? Wow, by that reasoning there would be a hell of a lot of empty seats around the country.
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The upper has plenty of room
It does if you're somebody who only ever gets work at panto time.
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The upper has plenty of room
It does if you're somebody who only ever gets work at panto time.
The last time I sat in the North Upper I was so crushed up that my shins were at the same level as my eyes.