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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on May 06, 2011, 07:13:04 PM
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Available Saturday evening.
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My word that was shit.
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Wigan at home guarantees a fucking shit match, hope they get relegated.
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Tripe.
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Shit, absolute shit...
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The most disappointing and unexcusable thing about this season for me is when Taylor and O'Leary flirted with relegation in their last seasons, it was under Ellis with a much worse squad, this team has received massive wages and had a shit load spent on it, and we are very close to being relegated and we are still not mathematically safe with two games to come against arsenal and liverpool, its a joke
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That was a truly terrible performance. We didn't even apparently have a centre midfield, Stan was useless. Defensively horrible. We created pretty much fuck all. We were reasonably lucky to draw at home to Wigan, fucking hell.
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Sunderland win at the death >:( with no strikers
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Meh
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Wigan at home guarantees a fucking shit match, hope they get relegated.
Don't blame Wigan, it's up to us to win the game. Dreadful as always.
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Why don't we play like a big club anymore?
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I am feel very bad for McAllister this guy can not make out team better.
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Bag of pish.
Wistful memories of not so long ago when it felt like we where all pulling in the same direction, now i can't stand half the players or the stand in manager who hasn't got a clue
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Thought Coker and Downing did well, pity the rest were poor.
How come Petrov stayed on the pitch.
Oh Pirez was the alternative.
Wigan maintain their unbeaten run at VP and deservedly so, helped greatly by one of the most ineffectual teams we've ever had managed on the sidelines by a complete twat.
Can't see us being relegated now, hopefully. So, so poor.
Randy do something and quick.
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NRC did what he does best Petrov did nothing and could not run the last twenty minutes. Albrighton has had enough for this year and those who think he can replace Young on the wing should think again.
Wigan were as poor a side as i have seen this season yet we could not get on top of them, a midfield without creativity. We are safe now but massive changes need to be made in the summer.
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They all get a 0, except Downing and Reo-Coker who get a 1.
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That was dire. NRC was okay and ...that's about it.
Maybe Dunne and Collins.
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Brutal perfrmance yet again.
That was just painful to watch.
Mr Lerner , it's time to start the clearout, GH & Gary Mc first, then the playing staff needs major work.
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Walker was woeful, as was Bent. NRC and Downing both good, Petrov is a liability.
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We're safe. That is all.
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We're safe. That is all.
Are we?
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A pile of shit served up by a bunch of over-paid wasters masquerading as top-flight footballers, presided over by the remnants of a clueless managerial team.
In other words: a typical 2010-11 performance.
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Nzogbia was the best player on the park. A team with ambition and going places should get him on board.
Team was badly set up and we struggled. So much wrong with that side, its impossible to start.
Friedel 5 - showed Nzogbia far too much of the goal
Walker 3 - nightmare
Collins 3 - see above.
Dunne 7 - crazy backpass and he looks incredibly unfit but he won everything in the air and some great tackles before half time
L young 3 - see collins
Downing 6 - tried hard but lack of gumption always evident.
Petrov 4 - tidy on the ball but started slowly and faded to a whimper before half time before disappearing without trace in the second
Reo Coker 7 - won a lot of breaking ball and covered a very shaky defence singlehandedly. He will get a good club in the summer and has given his all for Villa despite knowing he will be elsewhere next season.
Young 6 - got the goal and looked dangerous in the first half. Showed only in flashes in the second half but class through ball for Bent. Most talented player Ive seen at Villa in a long time and will be missed.
Heskey 3 - hopeless touch. His touch is really pathetic. Slow, one paced, bumbling fool of a player. should have been sent off before being taken out of his misery. Terrible signing by MON and will be hard to shift in the summer.
Bent 5 - not much service but didnt run the channels enough today either. Got his chance but failed to take it. He is what he is.
Albrighton 3- its been a breakthrough season for Marc and a good one at that. But going through a bad lull at the moment, which happens. Will come good again but this was a very poor half.
What an awful awful season.
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Are we safe though? We look like letting cricket scores in against pool and arsenal in which case it doesn't take completely ridiculout results to take us down. Probably OK on balance but stranger things have happened.
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Painful to watch. Needs an overall in the summer for sure. Centre mid and central defence for starters...spine of team just not good enough. Still not mathematically safe are we... ? I fear the worst against Arsenal and Liverpool that's for sure.
Had Bent nailed on to score that one on one. MOM, their keeper....
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Painful to watch. Needs an overall in the summer for sure.
Wouldn't that get a bit hot?
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There were flashes, just flashes, of good attacking potential, but it all came through Downing and, occasionally, Ashley Young. Overall though, not very good at all. Reo-Coker did well when he stuck to what he does well, and I can see him and Makoun doing OK in a midfield three with an attacking midfielder (Bannan?).
First time I've used Villastreams.com today; it was excellent. I suspect I will subscribe for the season next time.
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We're safe. That is all.
Are we?
Unless two of Wolves, Blackpool and Wigan win all their remaining games they can't catch us. West Ham no longer can.
I'd say that's as safe as safe can be.
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If we were playing a few kids or were experimenting a bit then there would be an ounce of excitement. But we're not. We have resorted to playing a 442 with Petrov and NRC in the centre. It just bores me.
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A pile of shit served up by a bunch of over-paid wasters masquerading as top-flight footballers, presided over by the remnants of a clueless managerial team.
In other words: a typical 2010-11 performance.
This!
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Wba 2 - 1 Villa - Loss
Villa 1 - 1 Wigan - Draw
Arsenal 4 - 1 Villa - Loss
Villa 0 - 0 Liverpool - Draw
Wba 2 - 1 Villa - Loss
Villa 1 - 1 Wigan - Draw
Arsenal 4 - 1 Villa - Loss
Villa 0 - 0 Liverpool - Draw
More utter gash from the villa. I can't see everything being alright come August either.
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Painful to watch. Needs an overall in the summer for sure.
Wouldn't that get a bit hot?
Not with our summers...ha, yea overhaul...still major though !
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New manager, new ideas, new style of discipline and motivation and no need for major sort out
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We cannot break this curse against Wigan.
It is truly is pathetic.
After the West Ham game we had high hopes of finishing top 10 easily, but 3 poor results look like we're going to finish the season off on a low.
WE CANNOT KEEP ANY CONSISTENCY. It's always 3-4 games we play well, followed by the next 3-4 games playing like crap.
SORT IT OUT!
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That performance from NRC just highlighted exactly why we lost at the Baggies. If we'd taken him off for Pires again today we'd have lost. He is our only true ball winner and should play every week and be given a new contract IMO.
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Didn`t bother to go down today and watched live on a stream for the first time - we were utter gash. In fact we were embarassing - what the hell is going on down there? No spirit, no tactics, no hope.
Major overhaul required means another transitional season - with VCTM jnr playing Saturdays next season its odds on the season tickets will not be renewed
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We're safe. That is all.
Are we?
Unless two of Wolves, Blackpool and Wigan win all their remaining games they can't catch us. West Ham no longer can.
I'd say that's as safe as safe can be.
Blackpool lose at spurs tonight and that makes 2 clubs that can't catch us
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We've seen some shite this season but that was up there. Absolutely painful to watch, we're a load of bollocks.
Can't we just give Arsenal and Liverpool the points and end the season now? We're gonna get thumped.
The manager is shit
Macallister is worse
Friedel is too old
we can't defend to save our lives
Dunne and Collins are laughably bad and need replacing asap
what the fuck does Petrov do? seriously how does he keep getting picked? I don't think i saw him second half, he is absolutely useless.
Heskey is a useless lump. Again how does he still keep getting picked? A striker who is shit and never scores.
We need a massive clearout in the summer, i'd include Ashley Young in that. He may have scored a free kick today but it's only took him about 50 attempts and the keeper should have saved it. If we sold him and signed N'Zogbia i'd be very happy.
The worst thing about it all is i didn't expect any different today, i said earlier in the week we might lose, we won't win, but we'll probably draw. All i can say is thank god there are at least three teams who are somehow worse than we are. Anyone who thinks we should keep Houllier and Macallister next season are fools, we are diabolical.
Bring on Arsenal...i reckon 4 or 5 nil to them.
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We will finish 17th on 42 points. Of that I am sure.
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We should be safe barring a real miracle now I'd have thought. Wolves would have to win all 3 of their final games and Blackpool can't catch us unless they beat Spurs today (or draw and then win the next two with a 9 goal turnaround in goal difference).
Didn't really follow the game and just want the season to be over. As ever, the hyperbole on the post-match threads makes it pretty impossible to tell how we really played. The BBC said it was a good game that neither side deserved to lose.
But NRC and Petrov has never worked as a partnership for me and we can't go into next season with those two as a partnership. But for all the significant faults in the side, let's remember:
- the football hasn't always been great, but it's probably not been much worse than much of the stuff we played under MON and got into the top 6 3 years running
- the real problem has been the defence, set pieces, late goals and getting ahead only to concede. It really should be possible to tackle this.
- It really wouldn't take that much of a huge turnaround to see us 10-13 points better off next season and we'd be challenging the top 8 with that this season.
We'll know by the time of our next game whether we're definitely safe. Possibly a good time to test the likes of Clark (at CB) Delph, Bannan or Fonz - not all at the same time. But we could have given ourselves easier teams to test them against and they may end up just being disheartened if they can't get into the game.
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We're safe. That is all.
Are we?
Unless two of Wolves, Blackpool and Wigan win all their remaining games they can't catch us. West Ham no longer can.
I'd say that's as safe as safe can be.
Blackpool can catch us if they win 2 and draw 1, then it's down to goal difference. I can honestly see us shipping 4 or 5 at the Arsenal alone. Wigan's last two games are hammers home and Stoke away, both winnable. I doubt Blackpool will achieve 7 points with Man Yoo and Spurs to play away, but given Villa's ability to snatch disaster from the jaws of triumph I will not think we are safe unless Blackpool lose tonight.
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A pile of shit served up by a bunch of over-paid wasters masquerading as top-flight footballers, presided over by the remnants of a clueless managerial team.
In other words: a typical 2010-11 performance.
I think you're being generous to be honest. I am as close to almost hating us as I have ever been since probably the mid 80s...
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We're safe. That is all.
Are we?
Sorry, we're not mathematically safe yet. We will be if Man City win
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We need to put Gary Cahill at the top of a long list to buy on the summer.
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We cannot break this curse against Wigan.
It is truly is pathetic.
After the West Ham game we had high hopes of finishing top 10 easily, but 3 poor results look like we're going to finish the season off on a low.
WE CANNOT KEEP ANY CONSISTENCY. It's always 3-4 games we play well, followed by the next 3-4 games playing like crap.
SORT IT OUT!
Not sure about that, overall we have been consistently poor.
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New manager, new ideas, new style of discipline and motivation and no need for major sort out
Really? Even if we bring in a new manager we still need to get rid of Friedel, Collins, Dunne, Warnock, Beye, Heskey, Petrov. Add to that that both the Young's and Reo-Coker are likely to leave, that's a lot of players to replace.
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We're safe. That is all.
Are we?
Sorry, we're not mathematically safe yet. We will be if Man City win
eh? What have Man City got to do with it? If you mean Spurs, we still wouldn't be mathematically safe.
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New manager, new ideas, new style of discipline and motivation and no need for major sort out
Agreed. This season has been just like GT mark2, good players led astray by an out of touch manager (sorry Sir Graham, still love you). All DOL did was buy Sorensen and McCann and picked as near as possible Gregory's team that was 6th when GT took over. Unsurprisingly, we finished 6th.
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Unless two of Wolves, Blackpool and Wigan win all their remaining games they can't catch us. West Ham no longer can.
I'd say that's as safe as safe can be.
Or to look at it another way, with Wolves playing Blackburn on the final day, ManU would need to lose to either Blackburn or Blackpool in their last two games, on top of a number of other unlikely results.
If today hasn't given Lerner the shits then nothing will. Something has to change.
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New manager, new ideas, new style of discipline and motivation and no need for major sort out
Really? Even if we bring in a new manager we still need to get rid of Friedel, Collins, Dunne, Warnock, Beye, Heskey, Petrov. Add to that that both the Young's and Reo-Coker are likely to leave, that's a lot of players to replace.
What if it's Hughes? Don't think he'd be in a rush to get rid of Friedel, Warnock or Dunne.
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New manager, new ideas, new style of discipline and motivation and no need for major sort out
Agreed. This season has been just like GT mark2, good players led astray by an out of touch manager (sorry Sir Graham, still love you). All DOL did was buy Sorensen and McCann and picked as near as possible Gregory's team that was 6th when GT took over. Unsurprisingly, we finished 6th.
There's some truth in this but it wasn't quite this straightforward. We were in the bottom 4 in December I remember.
But I do think that with much better organisaton of the defence and some new personnel we could be a much better side in a much better position. I don't think Luke Young will leave but we are likely to need at least 2 new defenders.
If Ged did leave, it would of course be possible that Warnock would be reintegrated. I've no idea what happened to him but let's remember he was actually a good player for us for 6 months.
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We're safe. That is all.
Are we?
Sorry, we're not mathematically safe yet. We will be if Man City win
eh? What have Man City got to do with it? If you mean Spurs, we still wouldn't be mathematically safe.
You're right on both counts, I'm talking bollocks.
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We're safe. That is all.
Are we?
Sorry, we're not mathematically safe yet. We will be if Man City win
eh? What have Man City got to do with it? If you mean Spurs, we still wouldn't be mathematically safe.
Could be safe by tomorow night. Blackpool lose at spurs tonight and wolves lose or draw at West Brom tomorow.
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I just did the BBC Predictor, to see what has happen for us to go down.. it's very very very very very very unlikely and almost impossible. Infact, as I was putting ridiculous results to make it happen, United fell to third and Wolves climbed to 14th.
We can't (okay, we can, but just saying) go down. Even though we're easily bad enough.
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Villa 42 points
Blackburn 39 points - Man Utd (h) & Wolves (a)
Blose 39 points - Fulham (h) & Spurs (a)
Wigan 36 points - West Ham (h) & Stoke (a)
Blackpool 35 points - Spurs (a) & Bolton (h) & Man Utd (a)
Wolves 34 points - West Brom (h) & Sunderland (a) & Blackburn (h)
West Ham 33 points - cant catch us.
Too many permitations ! But Wolves and Blackburn play each other so they can't both take max points. Blackburn have Man Utd next week as well. All but safe, Blackburn loss at Man Utd would probably seal it? If looking for a likely loss.
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Will we be safe if both Blackpool and Wolves both lose
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New manager, new ideas, new style of discipline and motivation and no need for major sort out
Agreed. This season has been just like GT mark2, good players led astray by an out of touch manager (sorry Sir Graham, still love you). All DOL did was buy Sorensen and McCann and picked as near as possible Gregory's team that was 6th when GT took over. Unsurprisingly, we finished 6th.
There's some truth in this but it wasn't quite this straightforward. We were in the bottom 4 in December I remember.
True, but it was looking much better. When we were linked with Solano and Izzet in January, I predicted that if we got them we'd qualify for the Champions League. We only signed Nobby and missed out by four points I think.
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Will we be safe if both Blackpool and Wolves both lose
I want to finish ahead of West Brom, but at the same time I want dirty Wolves for them to go down.
Horrible fans, Horrible team.
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New manager, new ideas, new style of discipline and motivation and no need for major sort out
Agreed. This season has been just like GT mark2, good players led astray by an out of touch manager (sorry Sir Graham, still love you). All DOL did was buy Sorensen and McCann and picked as near as possible Gregory's team that was 6th when GT took over. Unsurprisingly, we finished 6th.
There's some truth in this but it wasn't quite this straightforward. We were in the bottom 4 in December I remember.
True, but it was looking much better. When we were linked with Solano and Izzet in January, I predicted that if we got them we'd qualify for the Champions League. We only signed Nobby and missed out by four points I think.
I bet it you went back to H&V at that time you'd find a hefty proportion of people thought the world was about to end
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Will we be safe if both Blackpool and Wolves both lose
I want to finish ahead of West Brom, but at the same time I want dirty Wolves for them to go down.
Horrible fans, Horrible team.
Absolutely no way we're going to finish ahead of West Brom 42 points is it I'm afraid.Let's just hope it's enough
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even if blackpool lose today, they can still go above us, as can wigan.
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I can't understand why we don't have more men up in front of the net when we are attacking (especially when the ball is crossed in from the wing). Most of the time it is just Bent up there by himself with about four opposing players covering him!
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Jesus, it was bad today. Anything other than a change in management, and a subsequent change of personel will suffice.
The stink of apathy at Aston Villa is worse than it has been for some years, there are no positives to take from this season, only it's end.
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Villa 42 points
Blackburn 39 points - Man Utd (h) & Wolves (a)
Blose 39 points - Fulham (h) & Spurs (a)
Wigan 36 points - West Ham (h) & Stoke (a)
Blackpool 35 points - Spurs (a) & Bolton (h) & Man Utd (a)
Wolves 34 points - West Brom (h) & Sunderland (a) & Blackburn (h)
West Ham 33 points - cant catch us.
Too many permitations ! But Wolves and Blackburn play each other so they can't both take max points. Blackburn have Man Utd next week as well. All but safe, Blackburn loss at Man Utd would probably seal it? If looking for a likely loss.
Wolves to beat West Brom and Sunderrland, lose to/draw with Blackburn.
Wigan to beat West Ham, draw with Stoke.
small heath to lose to Fulham and Spurs.
small heath back down to three divisions above where they belong.
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even if blackpool lose today, they can still go above us, as can wigan.
Blackpool can but it would take at least a 10 goal swing...and they have Man Utd last game. Can't see it.
Least it keeps the season interesting for us in to next week !!
Edit...no they can't of they lose..they can if they draw...as they are at the moment
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even if blackpool lose today, they can still go above us, as can wigan.
If Blackpool lose they'll be 7 points between us with 2 games left
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The fact we're discussing "well... can we go down?" says it all. Fuck off Hou, fuck off McAl.
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Villa 42 points
Blackburn 39 points - Man Utd (h) & Wolves (a)
Blose 39 points - Fulham (h) & Spurs (a)
Wigan 36 points - West Ham (h) & Stoke (a)
Blackpool 35 points - Spurs (a) & Bolton (h) & Man Utd (a)
Wolves 34 points - West Brom (h) & Sunderland (a) & Blackburn (h)
West Ham 33 points - cant catch us.
Too many permitations ! But Wolves and Blackburn play each other so they can't both take max points. Blackburn have Man Utd next week as well. All but safe, Blackburn loss at Man Utd would probably seal it? If looking for a likely loss.
Wolves to beat West Brom and Sunderrland, lose to/draw with Blackburn.
Wigan to beat West Ham, draw with Stoke.
small heath to lose to Fulham and Spurs.
small heath back down to three divisions above where they belong.
That'll do for me Percy.
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New manager, new ideas, new style of discipline and motivation and no need for major sort out
Agreed. This season has been just like GT mark2, good players led astray by an out of touch manager (sorry Sir Graham, still love you). All DOL did was buy Sorensen and McCann and picked as near as possible Gregory's team that was 6th when GT took over. Unsurprisingly, we finished 6th.
There's some truth in this but it wasn't quite this straightforward. We were in the bottom 4 in December I remember.
True, but it was looking much better. When we were linked with Solano and Izzet in January, I predicted that if we got them we'd qualify for the Champions League. We only signed Nobby and missed out by four points I think.
I bet it you went back to H&V at that time you'd find a hefty proportion of people thought the world was about to end
No doubt, but I take no notice of any of those clowns. *wink*
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We need to put Gary Cahill at the top of a long list to buy on the summer.
the long list of players that will cost 5m more just because they are English you mean? Dont get me wrong I like Cahill but he isnt worth the 15m-20m Bolton will sell him for in the summer.
Today has convinced me Collins has to go. I used to think it was just a bad run of form but now I reckon last season was just a blip. He is actually shite. If Dunne behaved like a professional should he would only have 2 years left anyway so if we get a bid he should go. Cuellar should be kept for continuity if anything else. Samba probably is a good call and gettable.
Not even sure L Young has a year left to be honest. Keep as cover possibly but if he got a 2 year offer from QPR we couldnt hold him back. Warnock had a lot of injuries as a young player so unlikely he will last at the top level for much longer. Beye should just be paid off. Friedel is hopeless too and I dont believe on his wages should be kept as back up. Guzan will never be good enough. The back four that got us the lowest goals conceded tally in years last season will have to go regardless of who the new (please god surely) manager is. Will be a huge change of personnel. Baker and Lichaj might not even be good enough for cover either. Clark too has a bit to go to be a regular centre half for a top 8 side but I reckon he will come good.
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anyway, on a brighter note, have our results against the top teams been much worse than the mid to lower table ones? I seem to remember a couple of ok results this season against the bigger teams, so we might make ourselves safe without relying on others..
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New manager, new ideas, new style of discipline and motivation and no need for major sort out
Really? Even if we bring in a new manager we still need to get rid of Friedel, Collins, Dunne, Warnock, Beye, Heskey, Petrov. Add to that that both the Young's and Reo-Coker are likely to leave, that's a lot of players to replace.
What if it's Hughes? Don't think he'd be in a rush to get rid of Friedel, Warnock or Dunne.
He may not be, but do you really think them 3 players are good enough? I certainly don't.
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even if blackpool lose today, they can still go above us, as can wigan.
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Blackpool will only be on 35 points if they lose.They won't be able to catch us
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i can sum up todays performance in one word gutless
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I just hope now we are all but safe they start approaching managers or at least have a short list drawn up. I can't for the life of me see GH coming back. Much as I liked the guy and his philosophy of possession football something just hasn't worked. I think his health will prevent him coming bacj unfortunately. With the players we have there is no way we should be in this position. It would be a hell of gamble to stick with it next season.
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Out of the 11 that started today, I would only want Bent and Downing to start the first game next season in a villa shirt.
Major surgery required - time to get ruthless Randy.
I wish Mr Houllier all the very best in his recovery and hope he has a long and full life but I think for all it would be best if we parted ways - quickly.
A decision needs to be made now - halfway through June is no good.
It has been a truly dreadful season on every level - my wife is struggling to see the logic in shelling out £730 on season tickets for me and my Son, when every week I come back moaning !!
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New manager, new ideas, new style of discipline and motivation and no need for major sort out
Really? Even if we bring in a new manager we still need to get rid of Friedel, Collins, Dunne, Warnock, Beye, Heskey, Petrov. Add to that that both the Young's and Reo-Coker are likely to leave, that's a lot of players to replace.
What if it's Hughes? Don't think he'd be in a rush to get rid of Friedel, Warnock or Dunne.
He may not be, but do you really think them 3 players are good enough? I certainly don't.
None of our players have been good enough under this manager. Downing will probably win Player of the Year for being above average. Lots of our players were much better under the last manager, maybe they will be under the next one. Maybe even Ireland.
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I really don't want to talk about that 'game'
Fuck me, it was tedious in the extreme and very few of those wastrels earnt a portion of their salaries.
Just please let this abortion of a season end.
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Walsall had a shit squad until Deano turned things around.
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even if blackpool lose today, they can still go above us, as can wigan.
If Blackpool lose today they would need 7 points from their last two games to equal our points total. I feel fairly sure they won;t be able to do that.
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For those saying we're still not safe, the only way we will go down is if both Blackburn and Blackpool all their remaining games (both have to play Man Utd) and if Wigan win both their games and turn around a 10 goal difference. And if Wolves win all three of their games too.
IT'S NOT GOING TO FUCKING HAPPEN - WE ARE SAFE
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We're safe. That is all.
Are we?
As long as Spurs don't lose to Blackpool we are safe.
Wigan can only get level on points and we are 10 better on the gd.
If Blackpool draw tonight they can also only draw level and we are 9 better on the gd.
Whilst not Mathematically safe, safe nonetheless.
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With the players we have there is no way we should be in this position.
I think most of us agree with that. That suggests we don't need major surgery, not all in one summer at least, especially if money is tight. I'd prefer us to get the most out of some of these players than sell them on the cheap and go back to square one.
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You forgot Wolves VS. They can still get 43 points. Blackburn only have to win one to join us on 42 points and their GD is 1 worse than ours.
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And for those quoting GD, it only takes two heavy defeats for us (not unlikely), say -6, and two wins for our rivals, say plus 4, to eradicate a 10 goal better GD,
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That was utterly utterly dreadful.
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You forgot Wolves VS. They can still get 43 points. Blackburn only have to win one to join us on 42 points and their GD is 1 worse than ours.
The last game of the season is Wolves v Blackburn
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I think we are ok but as many have said it will take some serious work over the summer with new faces on and off the field for me.
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Utter fucking misery.
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You forgot Wolves VS. They can still get 43 points. Blackburn only have to win one to join us on 42 points and their GD is 1 worse than ours.
The last game of the season is Wolves v Blackburn
Blackburn could in theory beat Man Yoo. Anyway it;s highly unlikely and if we do go down from this position you just have to hold your hands up and say it was meant to be.
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So many negative posts on here. Look on the positive side, we can only improve next season.
As for today, poor in defence, pointless in midfield and AWOL in attack.
Only Downing and NRC deserve any credit - and that's only because the tried.
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Well that was pants. Again. Can we just stop the season now - I want to get off
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It's the same central midfield pairing that use to struggle at home against teams like Wigan under M'ON. Surely it would've been worth throwing on Delph,or even the Fonz for the last 20 minutes.
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It all went shit when Gary Mac decided to change a team that was dominating the game by bringing Super Mark on instead of the Fonz. Young and Downing were causing them plenty of problems and a straight swop was all that was needed. Heskey needs sacking as he is nuts. The team didn't have a clue what to do after the change.
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You forgot Wolves VS. They can still get 43 points. Blackburn only have to win one to join us on 42 points and their GD is 1 worse than ours.
The last game of the season is Wolves v Blackburn
Blackburn could in theory beat Man Yoo. Anyway it;s highly unlikely and if we do go down from this position you just have to hold your hands up and say it was meant to be.
If they beat Man U, then they play wolves though and considering wolves have to win all their games and win well to go above us, that would put blackburn on a worse gd than us. It is never going to happen. See these two games out and forget about this season as quickly as possible!
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Lost the will to live in the second half.
That's about all I have to say on it.
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Well rubbish to watch. Rio and downing played well. Rest huffed and puffed a bit but I would think they want the season to end as much as the rest of us.
Heskey had to come off or he would have been sent off. I've not read the rest of this thread but apparently it kicked off in the tunnel at half time.
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I don't know why people are banging on about Blackburn's results - I only care about the results of the teams in the bottom four because if they go our way by this time tomorrow we won't have to worry.
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Could be worse we could be in Blues shoes :)
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I'm so glad I didn't go today, I definately won't be going against Liverpool, what a pile of utter fucking shit.
Besides the goal we had 2 shots on goal in 95 mins of football. Downing and NRC played well, apart from that it was dire. I can picture a very empty VP next season
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Heskey was an embarrassment, rolling around like he'd be shot, only to jump up and run faster than I've ever seen him move to kick off at the ref... he was lucky not to get sent off. If he showed as much passion playing the game in the time he has been at Villa Park he might have won a few more people over.
A complete joke, please leave.
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That was very depressing. Downing played ok, Reo made a few tackles, Ashley scored a good goal, Dunne gave away a corner from their half, the defence watched them score, they had lots of corners. Thats about it. we just do not look like we have a plan, a team playing together or any ida how to change things. G Mac is way out of his depth. Please let the season end.
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we weren't good enough to win, and not bad enough to lose. Playing Wigan at home that really isn't very good. It will be all over soon, and we can all breathe a collective sigh of relief. I'm more convinced than ever that GH isn't coming back as manager, and either way McAllister won't be here. He isn't astute enough to be a manager irrespective of how good he was as a player. We need some fresh players, and fresh ideas. It's all very stale now.
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Downing and NRC deserve some praise.
The rest were wank.
If we don't make changes quickly then I can see Villa Park being like a morgue next season.
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Heskey was an embarrassment, rolling around like he'd be shot, only to jump up and run faster than I've ever seen him move to kick off at the ref... he was lucky not to get sent off. If he showed as much passion playing the game in the time he has been at Villa Park he might have won a few more people over.
A complete joke, please leave
Apparently he lost the plot as he was elbowed. He was extremely shit again though. I did think we lost a lot of shape when ge went off and young went up front.
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We lost all the shape when Young went up front, Bent got the ball and there was no-one within 25 yards of him
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Elbowed or not it was cringe-worthy. This being our most experienced player, after already doing it once this season.
Clown. (Heskey not you charleeco7 ;-) )
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Awful. Dull. Uninspiring.
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Elbowed or not it was cringe-worthy. This being our most experienced player, after already doing it once this season.
Clown. (Heskey not you charleeco7 ;-) )
Totally agree it was embarrassing. Especially when your 40yr old keeper had to run half the length of the pitch to calm him down.
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NRC and Downing played well.
The rest were shit. We got a point, which is obviously cause for rejoicing, but that was really not anything like a good enough performance.
Cluelesss up front, pointless in the middle, frail at the back.
The entire season was summed up in the first half when Dunne tried to play a 40 yard backpass to Friedel, with absolutely nobody between him and the keeper, and managed to put it into touch for the corner. Laugable.
We also seemed to engage in lots of arm waving, petulance and whingeing. Collins was one of the worst, but Heskey's little performance was incredibly irrresponsible, and I've have taken him off on the spot.
There was also lots of finger pointing and arms-out-wide between players today (much aimed at Albrighton, I noticed), it looked very finger-pointy.
Something is very wrong at the club, I'm afraid. The players aren't performing and haven't pretty much all season, and the management team seem to have fashioned a side which look like they should be relegated.
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Utter crap. Heskey should be ashamed of himself, throw yourself to the floor claiming whatever injury to then jump up and harrang the ref like a man possessed. What gives, shame you can't put the effort like that in the rest of the time.
Our season summed up in the classic from front to back and out for a wigan corner whilst everyone stands completely static.
In short, rubbish the season can't end soon enough.
MOTM Reo-Coker only one who really put himself about.
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Yep, a few senior players were giving Albrighton some stick. He is the least of our worries.
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Another great advert for the so-called "best league in the world", where average players can earn in a week more than most of those paying to watch get to earn in a year.
Where the technique is that good that the ball went out for a throw-in by the dugout about 8 times in the first 3 or 4 minutes.
Quality stuff again - well worth £500 a year to watch.
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I've just got back from watching it and i feel like shit after watching how useless we are.
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Fucking dreadful.
The players seemed totally unmotivated, running off the ball was at a minimum.
Collins and Dunne, shit as ever.
Albrighton came on and was pathetic.
Only Reo Coker can hold his head up high after that.
If Wigan had a bit more belief about them, they'd have beaten us easily.
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Wba 2 - 1 Villa - Loss
Villa 1 - 1 Wigan - Draw
Arsenal 4 - 1 Villa - Loss
Villa 0 - 0 Liverpool - Draw
Wba 2 - 1 Villa - Loss
Villa 1 - 1 Wigan - Draw
Arsenal 4 - 1 Villa - Loss
Villa 0 - 0 Liverpool - Draw
More utter gash from the villa. I can't see everything being alright come August either.
You're on a roll Goldie.
Hang your cock out the window, you'll be in luck for sure.
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It's clear that GMac cuts no ice with that team. They play how they like and do what they like. It's evident.
New manager, new back 5 and good riddance to shit like Heskey and Dunne.
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Held at home by Wigan (again) and going nowhere fast. If you'd have told me this time last year we'd been in this position and in a negative rut like this i'd have thought you were going crazy but its happened. I think we need a good clear out and that includes a change of manager, its no good having him back on a sympathy vote because he's come back from a major health scare, its not good for him nor us. I'd ditch Dunne, get another partner for Collins, two new fullbacks, a couple of midfielders and another striker in contention with Bent and Gabby. Heskey's time with us is done and we need to ship him off to one of the promoted clubs or someone in the championship because thats all he's good for. All this is easier said than done but it needs to be done because with the quality of the players we have in the side its clear a lot of them dont give a stuff or need a good rocket up their arses. Even O'Leary's last season was better than this, six points from Brum, four off WBA and a decent run in the FA Cup - and that was with a worse squad. And it might have been a more tighter battle at the bottom in 1994-95 but there were at still a fair few memorable games for all the right reasons. The only ones that stick out this time are the opening day of the season and the away win at Molineux. Its not good enough.
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After yesterdays increases and todays absolute tedious 2 hours where I can honestly say I didn't enjoy one single bit of the £100 or there or there abouts it cost me I am very close to giving it all up.
The game was utter crap, but I've seen crap in my 30 yrs - it isn't that. I am just so disillusioned with footballers. I was one of the ones cheering when Young got booked for f'ing and blinding to the ref.
I am sick and tired of them all. Personally, I think if a player swears at a ref, whether it is Young, Rooney or Lionel Bloody Messi - it shoulde be an automatic red card = no arguments, they are off - you watch the clubs stamp it out then !
Then you had the hilarious scene from Platoon when Kyle Walker obviously had been shot 10 times in the back by a sub-machine gun.
heskey - well enough said - again, as Young, I would have applauded if the ref had sent him off.
The players were arguing amongst themselves, Dunne mouthing off at Luke Young (pot kettle and black comes to mind)
Oh, I could go on all night, but everyone saw it - we are absolute crap, and unless we have
a) Houllier back and MAJOR reinvestment in players
b) A team that looks to me as if they are not in it for a pay cheque
c) If Houllier isnt there, a management team that excite me.
The £700 I have saved will be going on flights for the holiday - as someone said a few pages back, it is getting harder and harder to justify spending this sort of money only to come home and be in such a mood it spoils the families night never mind mine
I am sick and tired of the prima-donna tossers taking me for a ride.
As f
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What we need is a manager that the players will be scared of. This lot are piss takers of the highest order.
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So this is the ”best league in the world”! What a dismal performance from both teams. Neither side deserved to win but I wish we had, just to put an end to this miserable season. Watching Villa recently - in fact for the whole season - has been a duty not a pleasure. I shall be very relieved when the season's over but I'm looking forward to the next as much as I did when DOL was still around.
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Just got back, utter shite, shite, shite, and shite
O did I say shite!
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Just got back.
What happened 2nd half, absolutely no interest in trying to win the game, lack of commitment, quality, endevour, interest.
Too many players going through the motions tbh.For me only Walker, Bent and Downing should be starting next season for us from that team that started today, and what on earth was the matter with Albrighton, looked as if he did'nt want to be there.
On the bright side N'Zogbia looked a good player , as did their goalie, and McCarthy.
If players like Dunne, Petrov and Collins are still down there next season, i won't be going tbh.
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If players like Dunne, Petrov and Collins are still down there next season, i won't be going tbh.
It was incredible that Petrov wasn't subbed.
His legs had gone after 60 minutes (again).
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Dreadful. This turd of a season needs flushing down the shitter and forgotten. As with many of these gobshite players mugging us off with substandard fare too often. It is NOT acceptable at this club. Not now, not in the past, not ever.
Work to do. A LOT of work to do.
On the bright side, we're a massive club and fully capable of it.
I trust Randy to make it happen. This will be hurting him too.
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The game was awful, truly awful. We lack movement and we have completely lost our spark on the counter. NRC played ok, as did Downing, Ashley Young wasn't too bad either, Bent fluffed his only chance, and it was one hell of a chance but at least he made the keeper save it.
Walker never looked right after he was tackled for their goal, he was tackled whilst trying to take the ball forward and didn't seem to have many options but it seemed to put a downer on him and he struggled for the rest of the match.
We are so pedestrian we are painful, Dunne's halfway line backpass that led to a corner for Wigan epitomised what's wrong, we have no energy, no movement and no will to bust a gut to make things happen.
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Have'nt been so pissed of about a game since losing 3-0 to inter flying back and going into work the next morning !! agree with everyone's comment's also TURD !!!
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I don't very often bother posting on the Post Match Thread but thought I would this evening, having just got back and read the other comments.
I spent the first five minutes of the game reading the 'Birmingham Post SME Handbook 2011, Sponsored by NatWest' which my sister handed to me as the game started - I'm pretty sure that was more interesting than what was happening on the pitch.
After nine minutes I turned to my younger son and said '1-0 to Wigan'; within thirty seconds it was. Our back four really have been appalling this season and Dunne's unprofessionalism in being so fat really should have been addressed by a (stronger) management team. Christ, he looks as if he's eaten in twenty-four hours the number of pies (20) that I've eaten in the away games I've attended this season (one at each game).
I felt very sorry for Darren Bent today; in the first-half he had to contend with being partnered by Heskey, whose behaviour in chasing the referee was a disgrace and he really should have been shown a red card. If McAllister had had any balls he would have subbed him there and then, rather than waiting until half-time. In the second-half Bent was paired with prima donna Young who did nothing and was never close enough to be of any assistance.
What the hell was up with Downing in the second half? He was having a right strop in front of the Lower Doug Ellis and at one stage pretty much stopped playing. He was waving his arms around and shaking his head rather alot; in fact he looked as if he'd caught the Ashley Young petulance disease. Again, this behaviour would not be tolerated by a strong manager.
Today really summed up for me why we have struggled all season. There is no leadership from the sidelines nor, indeed, on the pitch. I have always been a fan of Petrov but today, frankly, he did nothing positive all game. The overall demeanour was of a team that knew a point would probably be enough to see us safe, so that's all they played for. If they'd have had any guts (I exclude NRC from this) they would have gone all out for three points and put on a display of good football for the fans who'd turned out. The crowd was about 4,000 higher than I'd been expecting; that's another 4,000 non-season ticket holders who had been prepared to shell out hard earned cash to. hopefully, see a decent game. The best motivation came from the Lower Holte between circa the 75th and 85th minutes; great support which, frankly, the players didn't deserve.
Upon arriving home we were greeted by four envelopes on the front door mat, all from Aston Villa and marked 'Season Ticket Information 2011/12'. Upon opening the envelopes we learned that the Club wants a total of £1,750 from us for our tickets next season - great timing, not.
The sad thing is that we'll no doubt renew without a second thought, mugs that we are.
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We are so pedestrian we are painful, Dunne's halfway line backpass that led to a corner for Wigan epitomised what's wrong, we have no energy, no movement and no will to bust a gut to make things happen.
Spot on.
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To be fair to Heskey, he was nailed twice from behind. The second time was a big elbow. That said, he's got himself sent off once already this year and shouldn't be near assaulting the ref.
Frankly Friedal had one save to make and couldn't. Time to ship out, as well as Collins and Dunne. Poor Carlos.
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The match was definitely summed up by Richard Dunne's farcical back pass to the corner flag! I thought that Downing was once again one of our better players. Those of you criticising Ashley should remember he was responsible for Villa's 2 most positive pieces of attacking play in the whole match. He created and finished the free kick for the goal and then played a perfectly weighted and directed pass into Bent's path which should have been finished. Darren dilly-dallied too long he should just have leathered the ball past Al Habsi.
Thought Reo Coker played well in terms of breaking up the play but he just can't produce much creatively. Petrov did ok for 60 mins but should have been subbed for Delph. I think we should be playing Stan Nigel and Delph in the middle as this is the only way we are going to get anything creative being developed through the centre of the pitch. Lost shape up front when Heskey went off, Albrighton was the wrong change, should have been Nathan as a straight front swap or Delph and go to Young and Downing supporting Bent.
Roll on next season, not even worth risking injury to any of the kids in the remaining games either I dont think.
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What the hell was up with Downing in the second half? He was having a right strop in front of the Lower Doug Ellis and at one stage pretty much stopped playing. He was waving his arms around and shaking his head rather alot; in fact he looked as if he'd caught the Ashley Young petulance disease. Again, this behaviour would not be tolerated by a strong manager.
I've posted about this on the Ashley Young petulance thread, if it's the same incident I recall the ball hit a Wigan player on the arm, instead of playing to the whistle Downing started throwing his arms around appealing for a penalty, from where I was sat it looked like he could have got the ball if he hadn't been waving his arms around, by the time he'd stopped, Wigan had cleared it.
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It all went shit when Gary Mac decided to change a team that was dominating the game by bringing Super Mark on instead of the Fonz.
I said the same to my mate next to me. Ashley behind the front man is not very effective. Their centre halve's had no-one to mark other than Bent in the second half.
Another piss poor perfomance and another one too many. I really do hope Randy has has got someone lined up.
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Dreadful. This turd of a season needs flushing down the shitter and forgotten. As with many of these gobshite players mugging us off with substandard fare too often. It is NOT acceptable at this club. Not now, not in the past, not ever.
Work to do. A LOT of work to do.
On the bright side, we're a massive club and fully capable of it.
I trust Randy to make it happen. This will be hurting him too.
The one good thing I reckon this has season has shown, is that with the signing of Darren Bent, Randy will have realised that when you pay for the best, you get the returns. Shit managers like Houllier, and shit also ran players like Dunne are not the way to success and a return on one's investment.
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Could be worse we could be in Blues shoes :)
With a trophy.
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And European football.
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I'm so glad I didn't go today, I definately won't be going against Liverpool, what a pile of utter fucking shit.
Besides the goal we had 2 shots on goal in 95 mins of football. Downing and NRC played well, apart from that it was dire. I can picture a very empty VP next season
Will the name change be Phil NOT from the upper Holte
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I'm so glad I didn't go today, I definately won't be going against Liverpool, what a pile of utter fucking shit.
Besides the goal we had 2 shots on goal in 95 mins of football. Downing and NRC played well, apart from that it was dire. I can picture a very empty VP next season
Will the name change be Phil NOT from the upper Holte
If the present management team are still there in August, his name could well be 'Phil not from the Empty Upper Holte'.
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You forgot Wolves VS. They can still get 43 points. Blackburn only have to win one to join us on 42 points and their GD is 1 worse than ours.
The last game of the season is Wolves v Blackburn
Blackburn could in theory beat Man Yoo. Anyway it;s highly unlikely and if we do go down from this position you just have to hold your hands up and say it was meant to be.
If they beat Man U, then they play wolves though and considering wolves have to win all their games and win well to go above us, that would put blackburn on a worse gd than us. It is never going to happen. See these two games out and forget about this season as quickly as possible!
You are overlooking the fact that if we lose our last two games our goal difference will worsen, possibly by quite a lot if we get a tonking at the Emirates. Also Wolves don't have to win well they can have three 1-0s and get 43 points. Blackburn are only one worse than us on GD, Two defeats for us coupled with a 1-0 win and a 1-0 defeat for Blackburn would be enough for them to finish above us.
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It was utter garbage today but I thought Reo-Coker had a terrific game. He was the only one who showed the right commitment and attitude. He won the ball time and time again but the lack of support and response from his teammates was embarrassing.
And Albrighton? He played like a 12 year old who'd accidentally found himself on the pitch. He looked so out of his depth it was embarrassing.
I could go on but in 40 years of watching at VP, I have seldom seen a more passionless performance from a team wearing the shirt.
Wigan will kick themselves when they get relegated at the end of the season.
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To be fair to Heskey, he was nailed twice from behind. The second time was a big elbow. That said, he's got himself sent off once already this year and shouldn't be near assaulting the ref.
He was definitely deliberately whacked and you could see why he would get the hump, but he started acting like a juvenile delinquent. At one point I thought he was going to burst into tears.
As for Gary Mac's comment that it was "just not Emile", I would say that I have seen him react this way on several occasions. What he should have done was marked the offender's card and taken retribution when the opportunity arose accidentally on purpose.
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Just got home. Excruciatingly horrible stuff. Dunne was in his foulest fuck the Villa mode and Petrov has regressed back to his worst shoulder shrugging ambling low energy sixty minutes only game. Why can we all see Petrov lose it but McAllister cannot? Downing appeared to be in a sulk for the whole of the second half and Kyle Walker can't defend to save his life. He is a winger not a full back. Unlike Darren to miss his one good chance. In retrospect he should have leathered it three yards further out but if it had gone wide we would have cussed him for not trying draw the keeper.
The Dunne back pass summed it all up for me. An attack which came with us winning possession on the edge of their area ended up as a corner to them without a Wigan player touching the ball. It was that sort of a game and it has been that sort of a season.
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It was utter garbage today ... in 40 years of watching at VP, I have seldom seen a more passionless performance from a team wearing the shirt.
Agreed.
My words were "gutless" and "lacklustre". Again, AY proved he's a winger not a 'man in the hole' player. End of.
Dunne and Collins showed they are completely busted.
Petrov tired badly.
Albrighton has lost his energy and vibrancy.
GMac largely has to take the wrap for fielding a demoralised side and not finding the solutions on the bench - Fonz, Delph and perhaps Bradley should have been given the second half to add some youthful energy to a sad and sorry team.
Certainly causes me to think hard about renewing for next season.
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We cannot break this curse against Wigan.
It is truly is pathetic.
After the West Ham game we had high hopes of finishing top 10 easily, but 3 poor results look like we're going to finish the season off on a low.
WE CANNOT KEEP ANY CONSISTENCY. It's always 3-4 games we play well, followed by the next 3-4 games playing like crap.
SORT IT OUT!
When on earth have we played well in 3 or 4 consecutive games?
A couple of times we've looked okay in a couple of games, but thats about it.
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A pile of shit served up by a bunch of over-paid wasters masquerading as top-flight footballers, presided over by the remnants of a clueless managerial team.
In other words: a typical 2010-11 performance.
Nice touch mate.
This I call to speak frankly!
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I'm so glad I didn't go today, I definately won't be going against Liverpool, what a pile of utter fucking shit.
Besides the goal we had 2 shots on goal in 95 mins of football. Downing and NRC played well, apart from that it was dire. I can picture a very empty VP next season
Will the name change be Phil NOT from the upper Holte
I might change it to disillusioned Phil
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If I watch another match like that I will start wondering whether I can really be bothered.
I found it a genuinely stressful experience.
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NRC and Downing were the only ones worthy of credit today. Thank you to ashley Young for mocking my 5 minute rant about his poor set pieces by scoring. Today was my tipping point, I have finally got to the point where I beleive a new manager is essential for next season.
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A pile of shit served up by a bunch of over-paid wasters masquerading as top-flight footballers, presided over by the remnants of a clueless managerial team.
In other words: a typical 2010-11 performance.
Nice touch mate.
This I call to speak frankly!
Well summed up.
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oday was a dreadful match but than again I said the same thing two weeks ago v Stoke.
OK today was shockingly dreadful.
Shocking that we once again failed to beat Wigan.
Shocking that we almost created no chances.
Shocking that playing at home we only had two corners and both in the second half.
Shocking that we dropped another two points.
Shocking that we have only picked up 42 points from 36 games specially after spending £30m in January.
Shocking that we have picked up 2 out of 9 points including 2 home games since GMAC has been in charge.
PLEASE Randy get rid of this Coach as soon as season ends PLEASE.
However no doubt someone will regard this a knee jerk reaction!
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If I watch another match like that I will start wondering whether I can really be bothered.
I found it a genuinely stressful experience.
I don't think I've experienced stress for some weeks now, Damon, just resignation, boredom and a mild interest in how Blackpool, West Ham etc are doing. That it should come to this!
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Sacking this management team would not be a knee jerk reaction it'd be the only sensible thing left for Randy to do.
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That was hidious, our movement off the ball is attrocious, what do we do in training all week? I can only presume we practice passing the ball from side to side because thats all we ever do. Ive never been so bored in a game of football in mu life, we'd be better off picking 11 of us for the remaining two games because those ****** are already on there holidays, At this moment in time I genuinly can't be arsed with it again next season.
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CACK!!!
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Utter drivel I can't remember the last time I actually saw a decent game down there. They were all shite apart from Reo Coker and Downing. It's laughable how they make out the Premiership it the best in the world what a joke. All I see is players on both sides who can't control the ball, can't pass to someone stood in bloody front of them, no movement, no bloody ideas. The shitness of this season was summed up in one moment today - that fat tub of lard hoofing the ball 40 yards to give Wigan a corner. There is serious work needed with that team needed from the management downwards.
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Not going to mention the game other than to say I was bored to tears.
Wanted to mention the lads in L2 who got off their arses and whipped up some atmosphere for the last 15 minutes. Well done, the players don't deserve you.
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As witless a performance as Wolves, Sunderland etc etc etc etc. Awful.
Depressing to see Albrighton look so lacking in confidence. He shouldn't play again this season for his own sake.
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What we need is a manager that the players will be scared of. This lot are piss takers of the highest order.
Exactly. Any side containing Bent, Downing, Ireland and Makoun, all busting a gut and playing to their full potential because they're shit scared of the manager, would be very good going forward. Then all we'd need is a solid base behind them.
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Albrighton was a waste of feckin space, just like he's been since Christmas. We shouldn't play with two wingers, it puts too much pressure on the midfield.
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The only players worth keeping are Walker, Makoun, Reo Coker (conditional), Downing, A.Young (although he's off), Downing, Albrighton, Bent and Gabby.
Apart from most of the kids - Friedel, L Young, Dunne, Collins, Petrov, Pires, Ireland and Heskey can fuck off.
On this basis the squad needs a total overhaul.
It's going to be a massive job for the new Manager.
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Not too fussed about Walker. Decent coming forward but crap at the back.
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Not too fussed about Walker. Decent coming forward but crap at the back.
A winger trapped in a right back's body.
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We got the tactics wrong first half and the personnel wrong second. The 4-4-2 we started with was like looking at some horrific parody of our MON-ball days - no movement, no options on the ball for the midfield two who were hopelessly swamped by Wigan's midfield three. Second half, Albrighton came on for Heskey and we went 4-2-3-1, but that didn't work as Ash spent so much time getting as far away as he could from the midfield two that we may as well have stuck with the same system - besides which, the deep midfield two had no creativity and, apart from Downing and possibly Bent, nobody seemed to have the intelligence to know how to move off the ball.
This situation cried out for a creative midfielder to come off the bench (or tbh, to start). And yet when G Mac looked at his subs the most creative player he saw was the same Robert Pires who'd essentially lost the game last week. If he didn't bring on Pires in that situation yesterday he was never going to bring him on - then why select him ahead of Bannan? I thought we were crying out for Bannan yesterday, someone to help keep the ball, dictate the tempo of passing and create chances. His non-selection was foolish.
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On that showing we will struggle to sell season tickets.
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Ironic,that the vast majority of season ticket renewals landed on the post mat yesterday morning,on a day when the sunshine meant you could spend your afternoon switching Off Your villa routine and Going Out and Doing Something Less Boring Instead!
There's an awful lot of what appears to be busted flushes on that pitch yesterday afternoon,it was crying out for a little drive in the centre.
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As someone said above, there was a total lack of movement off the ball, it was so depressing to watch. That for me was also the clearest sign that these players do not care, they just can't be bothered.
I also agree that there are an awful lot of players we need to be shot of. Heskey for one, with that pathetic display of petulance on top of his usual shitness can fuck off
How much longer do we have to pay that waster his 60k a week?
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How much longer do we have to pay that waster his 60k a week?
55 more weeks.
*sigh*
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First chance of posting after yesterday's dreadful showing, but that's it in a nutshell
the majority of the team didn't show up, have one foot on the beach, think their job
is done till next season or maybe thinking/knowing they will be elsewhere.
Perhaps some of the players don't get on with Houllier & MacAllister, but surely they
ought to have pride in their own performance and put in the effort even if things don't
go their way ? Clearly not - from where I was sitting in the Lower Holte
Several posters have mentioned arm waving and disagreements on the pitch yesterday,
which has been evident for several matches now with the possible exception of the
last ditch win at West Ham - clearly they are not singing from the same song sheet and
some aren't even miming.
They might get away with another poor performamce at the Emirates with the 'away support'
enjoying their end of season party but a lack lustre showing and defeat at the hands
of Dalglish's revitalised Liverpool will make any post match parade cringeworthy in the extreme.
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They might get away with another poor performamce at the Emirates with the 'away support'
enjoying their end of season party but a lack lustre showing and defeat at the hands
of Dalglish's revitalised Liverpool will make any post match parade cringeworthy in the extreme.
I hope to be firmly entrenched in the pub by the time that starts.
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Another great advert for the so-called "best league in the world", where average players can earn in a week more than most of those paying to watch get to earn in a year.
Where the technique is that good that the ball went out for a throw-in by the dugout about 8 times in the first 3 or 4 minutes.
Quality stuff again - well worth £500 a year to watch.
My sentiments exactly