Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Post-Match Thread

[Des Little]

What we need is a manager that the players will be scared of.  This lot are piss takers of the highest order.

[frank]

So this is the ”best league in the world”! What a dismal performance from both teams. Neither side deserved to win but I wish we had, just to put an end to this miserable season. Watching Villa recently - in fact for the whole season - has been a duty not a pleasure. I shall be very relieved when the season's over but I'm looking forward to the next as much as I did when DOL was still around.

[MarkM]

Just got back, utter shite, shite, shite, and shite

O did I say shite!

[barrysleftfoot]

  Just got back.

  What happened 2nd half, absolutely no interest in trying to win the game, lack of commitment, quality, endevour, interest.

  Too many players going through the motions tbh.For me only Walker, Bent and Downing should be starting next season for us from that team that started today, and what on earth was the matter with Albrighton, looked as if he did'nt want to be there.

 On the bright side N'Zogbia looked a good player , as did their goalie, and McCarthy.

 If players like Dunne, Petrov and Collins are still down there next season, i won't be going tbh.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

If players like Dunne, Petrov and Collins are still down there next season, i won't be going tbh.

It was incredible that Petrov wasn't subbed.
His legs had gone after 60 minutes (again).

[Mazrim]

Dreadful. This turd of a season needs flushing down the shitter and forgotten. As with many of these gobshite players mugging us off with substandard fare too often. It is NOT acceptable at this club. Not now, not in the past, not ever.
Work to do. A LOT of work to do.
On the bright side, we're a massive club and fully capable of it.
I trust Randy to make it happen. This will be hurting him too.

[Tony]

The game was awful, truly awful. We lack movement and we have completely lost our spark on the counter. NRC played ok, as did Downing, Ashley Young wasn't too bad either, Bent fluffed his only chance, and it was one hell of a chance but at least he made the keeper save it.

Walker never looked right after he was tackled for their goal, he was tackled whilst trying to take the ball forward and didn't seem to have many options but it seemed to put a downer on him and he struggled for the rest of the match.

We are so pedestrian we are painful, Dunne's halfway line backpass that led to a corner for Wigan epitomised what's wrong, we have no energy, no movement and no will to bust a gut to make things happen.

[swiss1968]

Have'nt been so pissed of about a game since losing 3-0 to inter flying back and going into work the next morning !! agree with everyone's comment's also TURD !!!

[BC54 VFC]

I don't very often bother posting on the Post Match Thread but thought I would this evening, having just got back and read the other comments.

I spent the first five minutes of the game reading the 'Birmingham Post SME Handbook 2011, Sponsored by NatWest' which my sister handed to me as the game started - I'm pretty sure that was more interesting than what was happening on the pitch.

After nine minutes I turned to my younger son and said '1-0 to Wigan'; within thirty seconds it was. Our back four really have been appalling this season and Dunne's unprofessionalism in being so fat really should have been addressed by a (stronger) management team. Christ, he looks as if he's eaten in twenty-four hours the number of pies (20) that I've eaten in the away games I've attended this season (one at each game).

I felt very sorry for Darren Bent today; in the first-half he had to contend with being partnered by Heskey, whose behaviour in chasing the referee was a disgrace and he really should have been shown a red card. If McAllister had had any balls he would have subbed him there and then, rather than waiting until half-time. In the second-half Bent was paired with prima donna Young who did nothing and was never close enough to be of any assistance.

What the hell was up with Downing in the second half? He was having a right strop in front of the Lower Doug Ellis and at one stage pretty much stopped playing. He was waving his arms around and shaking his head rather alot; in fact he looked as if he'd caught the Ashley Young petulance disease. Again, this behaviour would not be tolerated by a strong manager.

Today really summed up for me why we have struggled all season. There is no leadership from the sidelines nor, indeed, on the pitch. I have always been a fan of Petrov but today, frankly, he did nothing positive all game. The overall demeanour was of a team that knew a point would probably be enough to see us safe, so that's all they played for. If they'd have had any guts (I exclude NRC from this) they would have gone all out for three points and put on a display of good football for the fans who'd turned out. The crowd was about 4,000 higher than I'd been expecting; that's another 4,000 non-season ticket holders who had been prepared to shell out hard earned cash to. hopefully, see a decent game. The best motivation came from the Lower Holte between circa the 75th and 85th minutes; great support which, frankly, the players didn't deserve.

Upon arriving home we were greeted by four envelopes on the front door mat, all from Aston Villa and marked 'Season Ticket Information 2011/12'. Upon opening the envelopes we learned that the Club wants a total of £1,750 from us for our tickets next season - great timing, not.

The sad thing is that we'll no doubt renew without a second thought, mugs that we are.

 

[Rudy Can't Fail]

We are so pedestrian we are painful, Dunne's halfway line backpass that led to a corner for Wigan epitomised what's wrong, we have no energy, no movement and no will to bust a gut to make things happen.

Spot on.

[Mac]

To be fair to Heskey, he was nailed twice from behind.  The second time was a big elbow.  That said, he's got himself sent off once already this year and shouldn't be near assaulting the ref.

Frankly Friedal had one save to make and couldn't.  Time to ship out, as well as Collins and Dunne.  Poor Carlos.

[mr-villa]

The match was definitely summed up by Richard Dunne's farcical back pass to the corner flag!  I thought that Downing was once again one of our better players.  Those of you criticising Ashley should remember he was responsible for Villa's 2 most positive pieces of attacking play in the whole match.  He created and finished the free kick for the goal and then played a perfectly weighted and directed pass into Bent's path which should have been finished.  Darren dilly-dallied too long he should just have leathered the ball past Al Habsi.

Thought Reo Coker played well in terms of breaking up the play but he just can't produce much creatively.  Petrov did ok for 60 mins but should have been subbed for Delph.  I think we should be playing Stan Nigel and Delph in the middle as this is the only way we are going to get anything creative being developed through the centre of the pitch.  Lost shape up front when Heskey went off, Albrighton was the wrong change, should have been Nathan as a straight front swap or Delph and go to Young and Downing supporting Bent.

Roll on next season, not even worth risking injury to any of the kids in the remaining games either I dont think.

[Tony]

What the hell was up with Downing in the second half? He was having a right strop in front of the Lower Doug Ellis and at one stage pretty much stopped playing. He was waving his arms around and shaking his head rather alot; in fact he looked as if he'd caught the Ashley Young petulance disease. Again, this behaviour would not be tolerated by a strong manager.
 

I've posted about this on the Ashley Young petulance thread, if it's the same incident I recall the ball hit a Wigan player on the arm, instead of playing to the whistle Downing started throwing his arms around appealing for a penalty, from where I was sat it looked like he could have got the ball if he hadn't been waving his arms around, by the time he'd stopped, Wigan had cleared it.

[Clampy]

It all went shit when Gary Mac decided to change a team that was dominating the game by bringing Super Mark on instead of the Fonz.

I said the same to my mate next to me. Ashley behind the front man is not very effective. Their centre halve's had no-one to mark other than Bent in the second half.

Another piss poor perfomance and another one too many. I really do hope Randy has has got someone lined up.

[Risso]

Dreadful. This turd of a season needs flushing down the shitter and forgotten. As with many of these gobshite players mugging us off with substandard fare too often. It is NOT acceptable at this club. Not now, not in the past, not ever.
Work to do. A LOT of work to do.
On the bright side, we're a massive club and fully capable of it.
I trust Randy to make it happen. This will be hurting him too.

The one good thing I reckon this has season has shown, is that with the signing of Darren Bent, Randy will have realised that when you pay for the best, you get the returns.  Shit managers like Houllier, and shit also ran players like Dunne are not the way to success and a return on one's investment.