Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Post-Match Thread

[VillaZogmariner]

New manager, new ideas, new style of discipline and motivation and no need for major sort out

Really? Even if we bring in a new manager we still need to get rid of Friedel, Collins, Dunne, Warnock, Beye, Heskey, Petrov. Add to that that both the Young's and Reo-Coker are likely to leave, that's a lot of players to replace.

[ktvillan]

We're safe. That is all.

Are we?

Sorry, we're not mathematically safe yet. We will be if Man City win

eh?  What have Man City got to do with it?  If you mean Spurs, we still wouldn't be mathematically safe.

[Percy McCarthy]

New manager, new ideas, new style of discipline and motivation and no need for major sort out

Agreed. This season has been just like GT mark2, good players led astray by an out of touch manager (sorry Sir Graham, still love you). All DOL did was buy Sorensen and McCann and picked as near as possible Gregory's team that was 6th when GT took over. Unsurprisingly, we finished 6th.

[Steve R]

Unless two of Wolves, Blackpool and Wigan win all their remaining games they can't catch us. West Ham no longer can.

I'd say that's as safe as safe can be.

Or to look at it another way, with Wolves playing Blackburn on the final day, ManU would need to lose to either Blackburn or Blackpool in their last two games, on top of a number of other unlikely results.

If today hasn't given Lerner the shits then nothing will. Something has to change.

[Percy McCarthy]

New manager, new ideas, new style of discipline and motivation and no need for major sort out

Really? Even if we bring in a new manager we still need to get rid of Friedel, Collins, Dunne, Warnock, Beye, Heskey, Petrov. Add to that that both the Young's and Reo-Coker are likely to leave, that's a lot of players to replace.

What if it's Hughes? Don't think he'd be in a rush to get rid of Friedel, Warnock or Dunne.

[Matt Collins]

New manager, new ideas, new style of discipline and motivation and no need for major sort out

Agreed. This season has been just like GT mark2, good players led astray by an out of touch manager (sorry Sir Graham, still love you). All DOL did was buy Sorensen and McCann and picked as near as possible Gregory's team that was 6th when GT took over. Unsurprisingly, we finished 6th.

There's some truth in this but it wasn't quite this straightforward. We were in the bottom 4 in December I remember.

But I do think that with much better organisaton of the defence and some new personnel we could be a much better side in a much better position. I don't think Luke Young will leave but we are likely to need at least 2 new defenders.

If Ged did leave, it would of course be possible that Warnock would be reintegrated. I've no idea what happened to him but let's remember he was actually a good player for us for 6 months.

[Villa'Zawg]

We're safe. That is all.

Are we?

Sorry, we're not mathematically safe yet. We will be if Man City win

eh?  What have Man City got to do with it?  If you mean Spurs, we still wouldn't be mathematically safe.

You're right on both counts, I'm talking bollocks.

[ez]

We're safe. That is all.

Are we?

Sorry, we're not mathematically safe yet. We will be if Man City win

eh?  What have Man City got to do with it?  If you mean Spurs, we still wouldn't be mathematically safe.

Could be safe by tomorow night. Blackpool lose at spurs tonight and wolves lose or draw at West Brom tomorow.

[Summers]

I just did the BBC Predictor, to see what has happen for us to go down.. it's very very very very very very unlikely and almost impossible. Infact, as I was putting ridiculous results to make it happen, United fell to third and Wolves climbed to 14th.

We can't (okay, we can, but just saying) go down. Even though we're easily bad enough.

[avfcpg]

Villa 42 points

Blackburn 39 points - Man Utd (h) & Wolves (a)
Blose 39 points - Fulham (h) & Spurs (a)
Wigan 36 points - West Ham (h) & Stoke (a)
Blackpool 35 points - Spurs (a) & Bolton (h) & Man Utd (a)
Wolves 34 points - West Brom (h) & Sunderland (a) & Blackburn (h)
West Ham 33 points - cant catch us.

Too many permitations ! But Wolves and Blackburn play each other so they can't both take max points. Blackburn have Man Utd next week as well. All but safe, Blackburn loss at Man Utd would probably seal it? If looking for a likely loss.

[VillaAlways]

Will we be safe if both Blackpool and Wolves both lose

[Percy McCarthy]

New manager, new ideas, new style of discipline and motivation and no need for major sort out

Agreed. This season has been just like GT mark2, good players led astray by an out of touch manager (sorry Sir Graham, still love you). All DOL did was buy Sorensen and McCann and picked as near as possible Gregory's team that was 6th when GT took over. Unsurprisingly, we finished 6th.

There's some truth in this but it wasn't quite this straightforward. We were in the bottom 4 in December I remember.

True, but it was looking much better. When we were linked with Solano and Izzet in January, I predicted that if we got them we'd qualify for the Champions League. We only signed Nobby and missed out by four points I think.

[The Situation]

Will we be safe if both Blackpool and Wolves both lose

I want to finish ahead of West Brom, but at the same time I want dirty Wolves for them to go down.

Horrible fans, Horrible team.

[Matt Collins]

New manager, new ideas, new style of discipline and motivation and no need for major sort out

Agreed. This season has been just like GT mark2, good players led astray by an out of touch manager (sorry Sir Graham, still love you). All DOL did was buy Sorensen and McCann and picked as near as possible Gregory's team that was 6th when GT took over. Unsurprisingly, we finished 6th.

There's some truth in this but it wasn't quite this straightforward. We were in the bottom 4 in December I remember.

True, but it was looking much better. When we were linked with Solano and Izzet in January, I predicted that if we got them we'd qualify for the Champions League. We only signed Nobby and missed out by four points I think.

 I bet it you went back to H&V at that time you'd find a hefty proportion of people thought the world was about to end

[VillaAlways]

Will we be safe if both Blackpool and Wolves both lose

I want to finish ahead of West Brom, but at the same time I want dirty Wolves for them to go down.

Horrible fans, Horrible team.

Absolutely no way we're going to finish ahead of West Brom 42 points is it I'm afraid.Let's just hope it's enough