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Title: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: PaulTheVillan on February 06, 2011, 12:27:38 PM
Just hearing he's been sacked.

Can't think of who they'd get there to replace him?

Gregory?  :o
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: PaulTheVillan on February 06, 2011, 12:28:00 PM
Chris Hughton?
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: JJ-AV on February 06, 2011, 12:30:28 PM
Messiah Martin.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Matt C on February 06, 2011, 12:30:30 PM
Enter Big Sam.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 06, 2011, 12:30:50 PM
MON.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: PaulTheVillan on February 06, 2011, 12:31:31 PM
No way would MON go there. He thinks he's better than that
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on February 06, 2011, 12:33:22 PM
No way would MON go there. He thinks he's better than that

He is better than that.

When did WBA ever do so well as we did under MON?
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on February 06, 2011, 12:33:45 PM
A bit harsh if true.

I doubt they'll go down.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: JJ-AV on February 06, 2011, 12:35:57 PM
No way would MON go there. He thinks he's better than that

Goes there 'til the end of the season and keeps 'em up and his media exaggerated CV will be even more impressive.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: eastie on February 06, 2011, 12:36:04 PM
Hope they go down- the guy got them
up and they are not in the bottom 3 , he should have been given a chance to keep them up, really surprised by this decision!
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: PaulTheVillan on February 06, 2011, 12:37:46 PM
Hughton, Hodgson, Allardyce or O'Driscoll?
Title: Albion
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 06, 2011, 12:38:17 PM
The return of Big Fat Ron with Andy Gray as assistant.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Nev on February 06, 2011, 12:41:22 PM
It's on the Sky website.

I wanted him to stay, the last thing we want is that bunch of tramps picking up results.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: damon loves JT on February 06, 2011, 12:42:03 PM
O'Neill for sure. Would suit him. Gets to be a messiah, and if it doesn't work out it's not his fault.

Though I'm pretty sure he'd keep them up, sadly.

Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on February 06, 2011, 12:44:21 PM
O'Neill for sure. Would suit him. Gets to be a messiah, and if it doesn't work out it's not his fault.

Though I'm pretty sure he'd keep them up, sadly.


One thing their supporters always want is free flowing passing football, so I don't think he or Allardyce will fit the bill.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: eastie on February 06, 2011, 12:46:07 PM
Big Sam- notorious for keeping teams up and a local lad to a degree .
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on February 06, 2011, 12:47:26 PM
They been a bit unlucky in some games as well, They were excellent against Blackpool, Short memories only a few months ago he was being linked with better things
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on February 06, 2011, 12:48:04 PM
The Albion think they are Brazil, can't see them putting up with Big Sam's style
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: damon loves JT on February 06, 2011, 12:50:43 PM
'free flowing passing football'. Yes, and being crap and getting relegated. The stripey holy trinity
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 06, 2011, 12:52:39 PM
They just use the free-flowing football bollocks as a smoke screen to cover the fact that they always lose. "We ay very good but wim a bostin football teeyum."

If they win a few games and actually play in the Premier League for two seasons in a row they'll be happy enough.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on February 06, 2011, 12:54:47 PM
Its on the BBC now

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_bromwich_albion/9388972.stm
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: BILL DE VALL on February 06, 2011, 12:55:28 PM
confirmed by the west brom site="gardening leave"!
http://www.wba.co.uk/page/News/0,,10366~2286720,00.html
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: TimTheVillain on February 06, 2011, 12:57:47 PM
Big Sam.

Thought Di Matteo did a good job there - I mean, they haven't got a pot to piss in.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: eastie on February 06, 2011, 01:03:02 PM
Megson hardly had them playing great football but they were successful- I can't see anyone but big Sam in this situation .

O neill would not go there, Sam will get them playing ugly but he will keep them up.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: DB on February 06, 2011, 01:04:38 PM
Fat Sam, I reckon. He's a Dudley bloke too, he can buy a house on the Priory.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: sfx412 on February 06, 2011, 01:05:49 PM
Its not the managers fault its Peace's.
Whichever manager takes over will have the same problem, no money when its needed, and the continual yo yo between leagues.
He's the one who should leave.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 06, 2011, 01:06:56 PM
Derek McInnes is bookies' favourite.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: eastie on February 06, 2011, 01:09:14 PM
Strachan?
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: TheSandman on February 06, 2011, 01:10:07 PM
I don't understand this at all. They've been on a bad run but he has done really well there. I think something else is at play. Remember they didn't sack Mowbray when he had them sleep walking out of the division.

Hope the fuckers get relegated!
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Tony on February 06, 2011, 01:11:49 PM
An odd decision to say the least, especially as it comes after getting beat by Man City, the win at Arsenal has gone to the board's head.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 06, 2011, 01:13:52 PM
Love all that 'relieved of duties.......on gardening leave' he's been sacked, fired, given his cards call it what you will, he's been sacked.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: TimTheVillain on February 06, 2011, 01:19:26 PM
Fat Sam, I reckon. He's a Dudley bloke too, he can buy a house on the Priory.

Or the Wrenner ?
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: KRS on February 06, 2011, 01:21:41 PM
They've actually got a fairly decent pool of managers to choose from who could keep them up...

Fat Sam
MON
Jol
Houghton
Hodgson

Didn't Fat Sam used to be assistant manager down there at some point? Would be the obvious choice but Houghton or Jol would be more suitable appointments.

Already had the "we like to play football" lines but as I replied to then..."pretty football with average players won't win you games".
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: eastie on February 06, 2011, 01:23:36 PM
Forgot about jol, ex player too- could be a possibility.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: damon loves JT on February 06, 2011, 01:24:51 PM
Not *the* Derek McInnes, surely? How the hell did they swing that?
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: TheSandman on February 06, 2011, 01:26:42 PM
McInnes has done very well at St. Johnstone. Better than Owen Coyle did before him.

He is a very promising young manager. Just like the one they have just sacked.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: damon loves JT on February 06, 2011, 01:29:00 PM
Poor sod. Stay in Scotland
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: The Man With A Stick on February 06, 2011, 01:34:56 PM
They should just accept that they're the definitive yo-yo club and deal with it.  Give it a few months and they'll all be piping up with "wim day wanna stay in the premier league anyway, the championship am way better, the grounds am proper and yow get real fans".

Big barrel of twats.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: DrGonzo on February 06, 2011, 01:54:09 PM
I'm a bit pissed off about this, I like Di Matteo he sems a really decent bloke, and anyone who can make Olbiyun play football worth watching is ok in my book.  They'll get relegtion saviour Fat Sam, I can almost guarantee it, the choice of the relegation threatened team.  Cue long ball negative football and more of the big headed twats inane drivellings in post match press conferences.  I think the fans are going to be revolting...well they ARE revolting but you know what I mean.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: ozzjim on February 06, 2011, 02:10:20 PM
Di Matteo is a bloody decent manager, with bugger all cash and a decent eye for a player. He will go onto bigger things than West Brom, and the timing is typical of the club with them not having to spend a penny in the window.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: The Left Side on February 06, 2011, 02:18:08 PM
Strange one that, all the baggies fans I know are not happy with this!
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: PeterWithe on February 06, 2011, 02:25:25 PM
Is Dudley an Albion area or Wolves?
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 06, 2011, 02:29:48 PM
Daft move by Albion but no surprises considering their board. Hughton or Fat Sam in then I reckon.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: andrew08 on February 06, 2011, 02:31:37 PM
Classic Bogeyes, sack him and don't pay him off. Gardening leave!
 tight arse bloody tatters
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 06, 2011, 02:42:34 PM
Is Dudley an Albion area or Wolves?

Mixed.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: nadz3488 on February 06, 2011, 02:59:54 PM
Completely forgot I'm a member on this site! Heh.

Shocking decision to say the least. Stupid timing too. Somehow I've got a feeling that there's more to this than just the "13 defeats in 18 games as the reason for their decision". Twats.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 06, 2011, 03:02:49 PM
Completely forgot I'm a member on this site! Heh.


Where have you been? We've all been worried sick. Cancel the police search.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: damon loves JT on February 06, 2011, 03:08:28 PM
Unless there is some elaborate double-bluffing going on, I am concerned that people seem to give a toss who manages the Stripeys.

It could be Fred West as far as I'm concerned
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 06, 2011, 03:10:17 PM
(http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt255/cdvillafan/Yo-yo.png)
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on February 06, 2011, 03:15:29 PM
It seems that chairman like to draw on the old honeymoon period for a new manager to keep them up.  Poor decision I reckon but if it does keep them up they will be vindicated.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 06, 2011, 03:17:20 PM
It was a cunning plan to sack him six days after the transfer window shut so they will be under no pressure to give the new victim manager any money to spend.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Villa'Zawg on February 06, 2011, 03:20:58 PM
All four West Midlands teams have taken only 19 points from their last 20 matches. West Brom have thrown this dice to try and avoid relegation.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 06, 2011, 03:36:58 PM
No way would MON go there. He thinks he's better than that

He is better than that.

When did WBA ever do so well as we did under MON?

He was prepared to go to West Ham until he got caught with his trousers down shafting Grant.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Chipsticks on February 06, 2011, 03:47:25 PM
Desperate to stay up?   Allardyce.

Would be a huge shame as it would ruin all the good progress they've made in the last year or so creating "attractive football", but it may be the price needed to be paid for Premier League football next year.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Chris Smith on February 06, 2011, 03:48:04 PM
Unless there is some elaborate double-bluffing going on, I am concerned that people seem to give a toss who manages the Stripeys.

It could be Fred West as far as I'm concerned

He wouldn't lower himself.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 06, 2011, 03:52:32 PM
Allardyce will wind up there. From that part of the country. They'll just have to get used to a completely different style of football. However, if they stay this season, he'll keep them up in the future.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: eamonn on February 06, 2011, 03:55:11 PM
Unless there is some elaborate double-bluffing going on, I am concerned that people seem to give a toss who manages the Stripeys.

It could be Fred West as far as I'm concerned

Ah, it's just Roberto comes across well. Bit of dignity and class.

Like, you'd say to somebody: 'You're gonna like this guy, he's alright.
He's a good fella. He's one of us'. You understand?

Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: villa for life on February 06, 2011, 03:55:43 PM
strange - if they win their game in hand, they'd be level on points with us, this despite having spent far less. With him gone, as well as Roy Hodgson and Chris Hughton, Houllier must be counting his lucky stars that he  has such a patient boss as Randy.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: nadz3488 on February 06, 2011, 04:00:39 PM
Completely forgot I'm a member on this site! Heh.


Where have you been? We've all been worried sick. Cancel the police search.

You have? Well I'm awfully sorry about that. I was staying at the Burj Al Arab in Dubai having the time of life.  ;)
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: paulcomben on February 06, 2011, 04:05:49 PM
Unless there is some elaborate double-bluffing going on, I am concerned that people seem to give a toss who manages the Stripeys.


It could be Fred West as far as I'm concerned

He wouldn't lower himself.


Fred West is dead. Nevertheless, that still makes him a better potential manager for Baggies than Sam Allardyce.  ;)
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 06, 2011, 04:20:27 PM
strange - if they win their game in hand, they'd be level on points with us, this despite having spent far less. With him gone, as well as Roy Hodgson and Chris Hughton, Houllier must be counting his lucky stars that he  has such a patient boss as Randy.

very different set of circumstances though. This is di Matteo's team that's sliding down the table, whereas GH has only had a few months with his side and one transfer window. Had the situation been in reverse, and GH had been here a couple of seasons, now with his own players, Randy would have every right to be questioning the manager. Too early for that.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Villa'Zawg on February 06, 2011, 04:42:49 PM
strange - if they win their game in hand, they'd be level on points with us, this despite having spent far less. With him gone, as well as Roy Hodgson and Chris Hughton, Houllier must be counting his lucky stars that he  has such a patient boss as Randy.

very different set of circumstances though. This is di Matteo's team that's sliding down the table, whereas GH has only had a few months with his side and one transfer window. Had the situation been in reverse, and GH had been here a couple of seasons, now with his own players, Randy would have every right to be questioning the manager. Too early for that.

Our results this season are unacceptable. We shouldn't be in a fecking relegation fight, regardless of any difficulties we have had to deal with.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: TheTimVilla on February 06, 2011, 04:44:19 PM
Why does he get gardening leave? This suggests disciplinary issues to me.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 06, 2011, 04:45:10 PM
strange - if they win their game in hand, they'd be level on points with us, this despite having spent far less. With him gone, as well as Roy Hodgson and Chris Hughton, Houllier must be counting his lucky stars that he  has such a patient boss as Randy.

very different set of circumstances though. This is di Matteo's team that's sliding down the table, whereas GH has only had a few months with his side and one transfer window. Had the situation been in reverse, and GH had been here a couple of seasons, now with his own players, Randy would have every right to be questioning the manager. Too early for that.

Our results this season are unacceptable. We shouldn't be in a fecking relegation fight, regardless of any difficulties we have had to deal with.

I don't disagree with the fact we should be in a better position, but I'm also not shocked that you're willing to dismiss entirely the mitigating circumstances.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 06, 2011, 04:46:27 PM
Why does he get gardening leave? This suggests disciplinary issues to me.

So they don't have to pay him off. They will be hoping some other club comes in for him and then they can agree to let him go without compensation... on the condition he waives his right to a pay-off. Disgusting way to treat him.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: flybo on February 06, 2011, 04:50:28 PM
Me. would like to take them down hate the tesco bags.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Pete3206 on February 06, 2011, 04:53:15 PM
Any amount of chaos and disorder at The Yawnthorns is good news for us. They are in freefall.

Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Villa'Zawg on February 06, 2011, 04:53:25 PM
strange - if they win their game in hand, they'd be level on points with us, this despite having spent far less. With him gone, as well as Roy Hodgson and Chris Hughton, Houllier must be counting his lucky stars that he  has such a patient boss as Randy.

very different set of circumstances though. This is di Matteo's team that's sliding down the table, whereas GH has only had a few months with his side and one transfer window. Had the situation been in reverse, and GH had been here a couple of seasons, now with his own players, Randy would have every right to be questioning the manager. Too early for that.

Our results this season are unacceptable. We shouldn't be in a fecking relegation fight, regardless of any difficulties we have had to deal with.

I don't disagree with the fact we should be in a better position, but I'm also not shocked that you're willing to dismiss entirely the mitigating circumstances.

Sorry I'm not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me. Or are you saying its OK for you to think we shouldn't be in a relegation fight but not OK for me to think it?
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on February 06, 2011, 04:57:10 PM
strange - if they win their game in hand, they'd be level on points with us, this despite having spent far less. With him gone, as well as Roy Hodgson and Chris Hughton, Houllier must be counting his lucky stars that he  has such a patient boss as Randy.

very different set of circumstances though. This is di Matteo's team that's sliding down the table, whereas GH has only had a few months with his side and one transfer window. Had the situation been in reverse, and GH had been here a couple of seasons, now with his own players, Randy would have every right to be questioning the manager. Too early for that.

Our results this season are unacceptable. We shouldn't be in a fecking relegation fight, regardless of any difficulties we have had to deal with.

I don't disagree with the fact we should be in a better position, but I'm also not shocked that you're willing to dismiss entirely the mitigating circumstances.

Sorry I'm not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me. Or are you saying its OK for you to think we shouldn't be in a relegation fight but not OK for me to think it?
I think the mitigating circumstances that Toronto is referring to, is , amongst others, having 11 squad players crocked.
There isn't a team in the country that wouldn't struggle with that.
Things are turning round, all be it slowly and we'll be challenging for Europe next season.

Who knows, maybe this Manager might actually be interested in European games?
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 06, 2011, 04:58:36 PM
strange - if they win their game in hand, they'd be level on points with us, this despite having spent far less. With him gone, as well as Roy Hodgson and Chris Hughton, Houllier must be counting his lucky stars that he  has such a patient boss as Randy.

very different set of circumstances though. This is di Matteo's team that's sliding down the table, whereas GH has only had a few months with his side and one transfer window. Had the situation been in reverse, and GH had been here a couple of seasons, now with his own players, Randy would have every right to be questioning the manager. Too early for that.

Our results this season are unacceptable. We shouldn't be in a fecking relegation fight, regardless of any difficulties we have had to deal with.

I don't disagree with the fact we should be in a better position, but I'm also not shocked that you're willing to dismiss entirely the mitigating circumstances.

Sorry I'm not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me. Or are you saying its OK for you to think we shouldn't be in a relegation fight but not OK for me to think it?

I was responding to someone else's post before you jumped in with your "We shouldn't be in a fecking relegation fight, regardless of any difficulties we have had to deal with" rant.

However, If I'm to answer your question, I also hoped we'd be in a better position, but unlike your statement of "regardless of any difficulties we have had to deal with", I accept there have been factors beyond the control of the current management team that have contributed to the current position that need to be taken into account.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 06, 2011, 05:05:11 PM
I think three things have contributed to us being where we are.

The first was MON leaving, which, no matter how much Villadawg would doubtless prefer us not to think about any more, fucked up the season right from the off.

The second was the collection of a truly hideous run of injuries, which would have tested any manager or club, let alone one with a patchy squad with notable weaknesses like ours.

The third has been Houllier not delivering the results he should have. I can see what he is trying to do, and I like the way he likes us to play, but he has also conspicuously failed to deliver anything like a decent run of results. Long term, I like his thinking. Short term, it really has been very poor indeed.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Mac on February 06, 2011, 05:14:11 PM
The timing of this sacking makes no sense. AFTER the transfer window has closed and AFTER an away defeat at the club 3rd in the table. It's just stupid.

di Matteo MAY have deserved to be sacked on results recently but so did Houllier.  The difference is that there was nothing to be gained by sacking him.

Olbiyun deserve to go down because of this.  Not that I really care, just highlighting the twat of a chairman they have.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: brian green on February 06, 2011, 05:32:42 PM
Dudley is an area of chimpanzees and penguins.   My money is on Kevin Mac.

If you are on gardening leave and being paid to be on gardening leave what happens if your employer comes round and you are in fact insulating your loft or building a model of the Arc de Triomphe with ear wax?   Does that constitute breach of contract and no pay-off?   
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: eastie on February 06, 2011, 05:35:19 PM
Having taken them up the very least he deserves was the chance to keep them up- disgraceful!
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on February 06, 2011, 05:36:00 PM
Think they'll go for an up and coming Championship manager.

Wouldn't surprise me if they approached Swansea's Brendan Rogers, he plays a nice passing game.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: SashasGrandad on February 06, 2011, 05:47:26 PM
Why does he get gardening leave? This suggests disciplinary issues to me.

He's got green fingers?

Chairman took him to his back garden to show him his roses. Always a bad sign when Deadly used to do that!
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Villa'Zawg on February 06, 2011, 06:24:00 PM
I think three things have contributed to us being where we are.

The first was MON leaving, which, no matter how much Villadawg would doubtless prefer us not to think about any more, fucked up the season right from the off.

The second was the collection of a truly hideous run of injuries, which would have tested any manager or club, let alone one with a patchy squad with notable weaknesses like ours.

The third has been Houllier not delivering the results he should have. I can see what he is trying to do, and I like the way he likes us to play, but he has also conspicuously failed to deliver anything like a decent run of results. Long term, I like his thinking. Short term, it really has been very poor indeed.

Losing the manager on the eve of the season was unfortunate and unsettling but I don't understand why it should be deemed to have fucked up our entire season. We're not the first team to lose a manager unexpectedly and we coped well enough initially, the 10 points from our first 6 games was a perfectly decent start to the season.

And yes, there was a period when we seemed to have an inordinate amount of injuries.

The point I was trying to make to tonto is that regardless of these type of mitigating factors, we shouldn't be in a relegation battle. I've no doubt that the West Brom manager will have had more difficult mitigating factors to deal with than the Villa manager.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 06, 2011, 06:41:00 PM
I think three things have contributed to us being where we are.

The first was MON leaving, which, no matter how much Villadawg would doubtless prefer us not to think about any more, fucked up the season right from the off.

The second was the collection of a truly hideous run of injuries, which would have tested any manager or club, let alone one with a patchy squad with notable weaknesses like ours.

The third has been Houllier not delivering the results he should have. I can see what he is trying to do, and I like the way he likes us to play, but he has also conspicuously failed to deliver anything like a decent run of results. Long term, I like his thinking. Short term, it really has been very poor indeed.

Losing the manager on the eve of the season was unfortunate and unsettling but I don't understand why it should be deemed to have fucked up our entire season. We're not the first team to lose a manager unexpectedly and we coped well enough initially, the 10 points from our first 6 games was a perfectly decent start to the season.

And yes, there was a period when we seemed to have an inordinate amount of injuries.

The point I was trying to make to tonto is that regardless of these type of mitigating factors, we shouldn't be in a relegation battle. I've no doubt that the West Brom manager will have had more difficult mitigating factors to deal with than the Villa manager.

Fucking hilarious. Now you've turned to name calling like hawkeye because you can't make your point in a reasonable manner. How very, very pathetic of you and sad.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: eastie on February 06, 2011, 06:58:27 PM
Villadawg we are as close to the top 8 as we are to the bottom 3, we have had extremely tough circumstances and surely you must see that the manager has had to overcome such a situation- at the end of the season if we have finished 8th it will be great considering the handicaps, we are battling for 8th as much as we are battling to avoid relegation , please give him a chance to turn it around.

If at the end of season we have finished bottom 8 maybe your point will be more valid.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: damon loves JT on February 06, 2011, 07:27:45 PM
Can I just point out that West Brom are terrible, and I hope Jeremy Peace gets a fungal infection up the crack of his arse?

Thanks
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: DB on February 06, 2011, 07:29:42 PM
Is Dudley an Albion area or Wolves?

Mixed.

Yeah, depends where - west is more Wolves but east of Dudley heading toward West Brom is as you'd expect. A smattering of Villa too (like myself)...good news is no Blue noses, don't really get many in the Black Country - I never knew of 1 growing up. Lovely Tipton is the real mix between Dog Heads and the Tesco Bags.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 06, 2011, 07:40:41 PM
I think three things have contributed to us being where we are.

The first was MON leaving, which, no matter how much Villadawg would doubtless prefer us not to think about any more, fucked up the season right from the off.

The second was the collection of a truly hideous run of injuries, which would have tested any manager or club, let alone one with a patchy squad with notable weaknesses like ours.

The third has been Houllier not delivering the results he should have. I can see what he is trying to do, and I like the way he likes us to play, but he has also conspicuously failed to deliver anything like a decent run of results. Long term, I like his thinking. Short term, it really has been very poor indeed.

Losing the manager on the eve of the season was unfortunate and unsettling but I don't understand why it should be deemed to have fucked up our entire season. We're not the first team to lose a manager unexpectedly and we coped well enough initially, the 10 points from our first 6 games was a perfectly decent start to the season.

And yes, there was a period when we seemed to have an inordinate amount of injuries.

The point I was trying to make to tonto is that regardless of these type of mitigating factors, we shouldn't be in a relegation battle. I've no doubt that the West Brom manager will have had more difficult mitigating factors to deal with than the Villa manager.

Leaving when he did dropped us right in it and meant we started the season in the worst possible consequences. I know you're keen to make out it was like the office secretary flouncing off, getting in a temp for a few weeks, then appointing a permanent replacement who'll hit the ground running, but I suspect the truth was very different.

As for your final point, you're right, we shouldn't be in a relegation battle, something I alluded to with my final point about Houllier.

I don't quite see why the West Brom manager has more difficult mitigating factors to deal with, though. I'd have thought that being plucked from a desk job in Paris and dropped into the PL after an absence of several years puts a manager at a considerable disadvantage.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: KevinGage on February 06, 2011, 07:45:17 PM
Daft decision.

Was one of a number of managers who I thought might be worth keeping an eye on, a possible future Villa manager.

Hopefully he goes to a half decent club on the continent, rebuilds his career without the handicap of a smalltime stipeyfilth board - and we reap the benefits in a few years.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: hawkeye on February 06, 2011, 10:20:41 PM
I think three things have contributed to us being where we are.

The first was MON leaving, which, no matter how much Villadawg would doubtless prefer us not to think about any more, fucked up the season right from the off.

The second was the collection of a truly hideous run of injuries, which would have tested any manager or club, let alone one with a patchy squad with notable weaknesses like ours.

The third has been Houllier not delivering the results he should have. I can see what he is trying to do, and I like the way he likes us to play, but he has also conspicuously failed to deliver anything like a decent run of results. Long term, I like his thinking. Short term, it really has been very poor indeed.

Losing the manager on the eve of the season was unfortunate and unsettling but I don't understand why it should be deemed to have fucked up our entire season. We're not the first team to lose a manager unexpectedly and we coped well enough initially, the 10 points from our first 6 games was a perfectly decent start to the season.

And yes, there was a period when we seemed to have an inordinate amount of injuries.

The point I was trying to make to toronto is that regardless of these type of mitigating factors, we shouldn't be in a relegation battle. I've no doubt that the West Brom manager will have had more difficult mitigating factors to deal with than the Villa manager.

Fucking hilarious. Now you've turned to name calling like hawkeye because you can't make your point in a reasonable manner. How very, very pathetic of you and sad.
:o
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Villa'Zawg on February 06, 2011, 11:30:35 PM
I think three things have contributed to us being where we are.

The first was MON leaving, which, no matter how much Villadawg would doubtless prefer us not to think about any more, fucked up the season right from the off.

The second was the collection of a truly hideous run of injuries, which would have tested any manager or club, let alone one with a patchy squad with notable weaknesses like ours.

The third has been Houllier not delivering the results he should have. I can see what he is trying to do, and I like the way he likes us to play, but he has also conspicuously failed to deliver anything like a decent run of results. Long term, I like his thinking. Short term, it really has been very poor indeed.

Losing the manager on the eve of the season was unfortunate and unsettling but I don't understand why it should be deemed to have fucked up our entire season. We're not the first team to lose a manager unexpectedly and we coped well enough initially, the 10 points from our first 6 games was a perfectly decent start to the season.

And yes, there was a period when we seemed to have an inordinate amount of injuries.

The point I was trying to make to toronto is that regardless of these type of mitigating factors, we shouldn't be in a relegation battle. I've no doubt that the West Brom manager will have had more difficult mitigating factors to deal with than the Villa manager.

Fucking hilarious. Now you've turned to name calling like hawkeye because you can't make your point in a reasonable manner. How very, very pathetic of you and sad.
:o


Word filter changed kemo sabe. ;)

I don't really understand how it can be considered an insult though. I mean imagine if I suddenly decided that VD was an insulting term...Oh! Hold on a second....
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 06, 2011, 11:38:55 PM
Lovely Tipton is the real mix between Dog Heads and the Tesco Bags.

Not exclusively.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: hawkeye on February 06, 2011, 11:45:46 PM
I think three things have contributed to us being where we are.

The first was MON leaving, which, no matter how much Villadawg would doubtless prefer us not to think about any more, fucked up the season right from the off.

The second was the collection of a truly hideous run of injuries, which would have tested any manager or club, let alone one with a patchy squad with notable weaknesses like ours.

The third has been Houllier not delivering the results he should have. I can see what he is trying to do, and I like the way he likes us to play, but he has also conspicuously failed to deliver anything like a decent run of results. Long term, I like his thinking. Short term, it really has been very poor indeed.

Losing the manager on the eve of the season was unfortunate and unsettling but I don't understand why it should be deemed to have fucked up our entire season. We're not the first team to lose a manager unexpectedly and we coped well enough initially, the 10 points from our first 6 games was a perfectly decent start to the season.

And yes, there was a period when we seemed to have an inordinate amount of injuries.

The point I was trying to make to toronto is that regardless of these type of mitigating factors, we shouldn't be in a relegation battle. I've no doubt that the West Brom manager will have had more difficult mitigating factors to deal with than the Villa manager.

Fucking hilarious. Now you've turned to name calling like hawkeye because you can't make your point in a reasonable manner. How very, very pathetic of you and sad.
:o


Word filter changed kemo sabe. ;)

I don't really understand how it can be considered an insult though. I mean imagine if I suddenly decided that VD was an insulting term...Oh! Hold on a second....
:)
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Villa'Zawg on February 06, 2011, 11:57:56 PM
Neil Moxley in the Daily Mail is saying Hogson is the target for new manager. 
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: darren woolley on February 07, 2011, 09:20:15 AM
I read that they wan't ostrich face Hodgson but would he keep them up.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: LeeB on February 07, 2011, 09:31:57 AM
Can I just point out that West Brom are terrible, and I hope Jeremy Peace gets a fungal infection up the crack of his arse?

Thanks

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I think he'd probably get off on it.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on February 07, 2011, 12:07:13 PM
Good.

The spaghetti chomping yam yam bastard should have been given a life ban from football for his actions in the 2000  FA Cup Final.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Lee on February 07, 2011, 12:47:29 PM
Fat Sam, I reckon. He's a Dudley bloke too, he can buy a house on the Priory.

He's already lived on the Priory..and he's a Wolves Fan, wouldn't go down well.

I think this is great news btw ..  when they were 6th, I was getting texts from them saying top team in the Midlands and all that bull ..I replied to 'em all yesterday "don't open that Trapdoor..."
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Lee on February 07, 2011, 12:51:09 PM
I'm a bit pissed off about this, I like Di Matteo he sems a really decent bloke, and anyone who can make Olbiyun play football worth watching is ok in my book.  They'll get relegtion saviour Fat Sam, I can almost guarantee it, the choice of the relegation threatened team.  Cue long ball negative football and more of the big headed twats inane drivellings in post match press conferences.  I think the fans are going to be revolting...well they ARE revolting but you know what I mean.

Their Fans ARE revolting period.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: Lee on February 07, 2011, 12:54:29 PM
Dudley is an area of chimpanzees and penguins.   


.... and Lions ;¬)
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: The Situation on February 07, 2011, 06:54:48 PM
Was pretty shocked when I heard this.

What a dumb thing to do. Yeah, they're on a bad run and are struggling but Di Matteo is a good enough manager to keep them up.

Interesting to see who'll they now appoint as manager as Fat Sam said no.
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: WikiVilla on February 07, 2011, 09:24:53 PM
step forward George Burley
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Di Matteo sacked?
Post by: TimTheVillain on February 07, 2011, 09:31:26 PM
I'm a bit pissed off about this, I like Di Matteo he sems a really decent bloke, and anyone who can make Olbiyun play football worth watching is ok in my book.  They'll get relegtion saviour Fat Sam, I can almost guarantee it, the choice of the relegation threatened team.  Cue long ball negative football and more of the big headed twats inane drivellings in post match press conferences.  I think the fans are going to be revolting...well they ARE revolting but you know what I mean.

Their Fans ARE revolting period.


Naive wankers - the ones I know.
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