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Title: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: JJ-AV on August 12, 2010, 11:37:29 AM
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James Milner's move from Aston Villa to Manchester City is finally expected to go through in the next 24 hours now the England midfielder has returned from international duty.

But the midlands club will today meet representatives of winger Ashley Young in a bid to convince him to stay at Villa Park in the wake of interest from Tottenham.

Young has two years left of his current deal and is one of Villa's highest earners with a salary of more than £60,000 a week.

He impressed when setting up both goals for skipper Steven Gerrard in England's 2-1 win over Hungary at Wembley last night.

Villa want Young to sign a long-term deal, but that would only happen with a sizeable wage increase and assurances over the future ambitions.

Club owner Randy Lerner has also made it clear he wants to restore the club to an even financial keel.

Tottenham would probably have to match the £20million-plus deal Villa have agreed with City for Milner to have a chance of landing Young.

Milner's switch to Eastlands would also include City midfielder Stephen Ireland heading in the opposite direction.

Lerner conceded that sorting out the Milner transfer was part of his "immediate focus".

The deal will represent a handsome profit for Villa, who signed Milner for a club record £12million from Newcastle two years ago.

But it was Lerner's decision not to make all the funds available to Martin O'Neill from the Milner transfer for new players which led to the Northern Irishman quitting Villa on Monday.

The American businessman revealed differences in opinion on how to take the club forward led to O'Neill walking out after four years.

Lerner in a media statement, said: "Having had some time to reflect on Martin leaving, I can say that our most immediate focus is supporting (caretaker boss) Kevin MacDonald and resolving the situation with Manchester City and James Milner.

"As for explaining why Martin left, I can say only that we no longer shared a common view as to how to move forward.

"To deal in greater detail would do little but cause additional distraction for the club as it faces imminent games and the clear priority of hiring a permanent manager."

Villa may give caretaker boss Kevin MacDonald an elongated stint in charge as they seek the right replacement for O'Neill.

They have been showered with applications but are determined to make sure the ideal appointment is made.

Sven-Goran Eriksson has been installed as the new favourite with the bookmakers, although there has been no contact between the Swede and Villa.

Lerner has sufficient faith in reserve-team coach MacDonald not to feel the need to make a hasty appointment.

He will be in charge for Saturday's home Barclays Premier League opener with West Ham but could also take the reins for the Europa League clash with Rapid Vienna next week.

http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2010/08/12/james-milnerm-to-leave-aston-villa-club-to-meet-with-ashley-young-66331-27049069/

Looks like this interest is real.

Ashley must be kept. This isn't like Milner or Barry. He's the poster boy for the new Villa.

To one of the big 3 or Liverpool, yes. Citeh yes for a Milner type fee. But to Spurs for £20million? No chance.

We can't let it happen.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: manic-road on August 12, 2010, 11:44:09 AM
Hope it's more bullshit being banded around about Ash
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Guy M on August 12, 2010, 11:47:05 AM
I'd say this belongs in here (http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=37505.0) for the time being. Up to each poster to decide then whether they consider it rumour or just plain bullsh*t.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: garyfouroaks on August 12, 2010, 11:47:17 AM
Ashley must be kept. This isn't like Milner or Barry. He's the poster boy for the new Villa.

To one of the big 3 or Liverpool, yes. Citeh yes for a Milner type fee. But to Spurs for £20million? No chance.

We can't let it happen.

I agree that Young should be kept. But sadly the reason why City are buying Milner, and not Young, is that Milner is the better player.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Villa'Zawg on August 12, 2010, 11:51:24 AM
Scene - A meeting room at VP

Faulkner: OK, let's get started. Why are we here today?
Ashley Young: We're going to talk about increasing my wages and extending my contract.
Faulkner: Riiiiight"....
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Ger Regan on August 12, 2010, 12:05:42 PM
If he's on around 60k a week, then isn't that pretty much as good as he's going to get at spurs, isn't it? Don't they have a strict wage structure in place?
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: TRO on August 12, 2010, 12:42:50 PM
Some unknown didnt wish to be named due to his profession, stated on Radio WM the other night that Ash had sold his house in Pedmore (Stourbridge) 3 weeks ago ?

This if true, is probably why MON walked.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Oscar Arce on August 12, 2010, 12:46:33 PM
I can't shake the feeling that, only a few weeks ago, MON said if Ashley Young was to be sold, he would resign. No-one else remember that ?
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: eastie on August 12, 2010, 12:55:37 PM
if ash expresses that he wants to go then he will go, maybe he will use mons departure as a reason but hes a london lad and the lure of the champions league could swing it . maybe chelsea would be his more likely destination though than spurs , although hodgson seems keen too.

if sven comes id expect him to try and get crouch , jenas as part of any deal maybe , but i wouldnt expect ash to be sold before we appoint a new manager.

if that is the case it would probably mean we are looking ambitions of being a top 10 club rather than a top 6 club , and would be a huge let down.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: placeforparks on August 12, 2010, 12:56:51 PM
and yet ashley young was talking about a new deal when we played peterborough a couple of weeks ago?

these talks may have been arranged weeks ago.

i know ashley had an affinity with MON, but if he doesn't want to commit, he can piss off and do a david bentley.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 12, 2010, 12:56:56 PM
Hopefully it's to talk about the new contract he wanted.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on August 12, 2010, 01:01:54 PM
At least we still have Downing.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 12, 2010, 01:03:44 PM
I smell Bullshit
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: TaxDodger on August 12, 2010, 01:05:36 PM
Young to Tottenham would be the worst transfer in the history of transfers.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Chris Smith on August 12, 2010, 01:06:11 PM
If he feels that we're not going to sign the players that will give us a realistic go at getting into the CL then he might decide he fancies going to a club that will.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: paul_e on August 12, 2010, 01:10:36 PM
It would also be monumentally stupid to demand to leave without seeing who is coming in as the next manager.  As mentioned above, this is probably a meeting about extending his contract, if there even is a meeting taking place.

I'm personally ignoring all stories about Villa selling anyone other than Milner or signing anyone other than Ireland.  Nothing else is going to happen until the manager is sorted.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Concrete John on August 12, 2010, 01:18:02 PM
Out of interest, if we were to flog Ash to Spurs would that change anyone's views on O'Neill's departure?
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: JJ-AV on August 12, 2010, 01:19:06 PM
Yes, I'd begin to question the ambition of the board.

As it stands I don't think they'll sell him.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: eastie on August 12, 2010, 01:35:57 PM
wouldnt change my view of o neill as a manager - he should have gone in may. i would however give up on the top 4 dream and expect 8th to 10th for the foreseeable future if we sell ash as well, i can see him saying its because o neills gone and randy sayin its because he wanted to go ,.ash leaving to a london club would not surprise me , i think it will be chelsea though!
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Karl Bridges on August 12, 2010, 01:44:39 PM
According to one of the rags the deal would be £9m + Keane as well, which would be gutting. You know Harry will get top whack for Keane though.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 12, 2010, 01:47:47 PM
If he feels that we're not going to sign the players that will give us a realistic go at getting into the CL then he might decide he fancies going to a club that will.

Fuckin hell Chris, whats up with you man? Your not normally this downbeat, Has your Mrs hid the knives?
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: BILL DE VALL on August 12, 2010, 01:48:04 PM
it's not looking good is it chaps?
With a billionaire in charge you would hope that we can see off interest from a club with a mere multi-millionaire in charge!
Milner being tempted by mammon
ash being tempted back to the smoke
sell to buy
lower the wage bill
no manager

I was so looking forward to this season-about a week ago ;)
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Ger Regan on August 12, 2010, 01:49:40 PM
The complete lack of quotes on this "story" is telling, imo.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Chris Smith on August 12, 2010, 02:24:36 PM
If he feels that we're not going to sign the players that will give us a realistic go at getting into the CL then he might decide he fancies going to a club that will.

Fuckin hell Chris, whats up with you man? Your not normally this downbeat, Has your Mrs hid the knives?

More sort of thinking out loud, Phil. We're all confused about what is going so I imagine the players are even more so.

Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 12, 2010, 02:32:02 PM
If he feels that we're not going to sign the players that will give us a realistic go at getting into the CL then he might decide he fancies going to a club that will.

Fuckin hell Chris, whats up with you man? Your not normally this downbeat, Has your Mrs hid the knives?

More sort of thinking out loud, Phil. We're all confused about what is going so I imagine the players are even more so.



Cheer up, Chris. It is just newspaper nonsense.

Normally we'd just write this sort of story off as bullshit. That's probably the best approach now until we see how it all pans out, if only for sanity's sake.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 12, 2010, 02:36:04 PM
Times must be really bad, as Chris is the most upbeat and positive looking poster on here. He's gone Gregnash!
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: john e on August 12, 2010, 02:37:40 PM
MON going for me is no disaster,
 Milner going for 25 mill or near on is good bussines,
but if A Young leaves as well, then we are in the the big brown stuff,

Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: TheSandman on August 12, 2010, 02:40:33 PM
They've just removed gullible from the dictionary.

If they sell Ashley Young which is every bit as likely as me getting balls deep in Megan Fox they will deserve every bit of venom they will get. Indeed I might have a few protests in me, perhaps even a few 'fuck off back to Yankee land, young Doug' posts.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: midnite on August 12, 2010, 02:43:19 PM
MON going for me is no disaster,
 Milner going for 25 mill or near on is good bussines,
but if A Young leaves as well, then we are in the the big brown stuff,

It can't happen. It won't happen pleeeeeaaasse say it isn't do randy!!
Milner is damn good business as u said, £20 million plus Ireland! Bargin!!
Ash is the the future of the club, as someone else said the "poster boy" the flash kid who will get rhe good sponsorship deals and make villa a more sellable to foreign markets such as the US with his flair


Edit: Corrected end quote
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 12, 2010, 02:48:15 PM
Some unknown didnt wish to be named due to his profession, stated on Radio WM the other night that Ash had sold his house in Pedmore (Stourbridge) 3 weeks ago ?

This if true, is probably why MON walked.

MON walked because Ash sold his house? Was he a big fan of the conservatory or something.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: hilts_coolerking on August 12, 2010, 02:49:14 PM
Take Milner and Young out of our side from last season and we start to look very ordinary.  There's a lot of goals and assists wrapped up in those two players.

All things being equal, we didn't want to sell Milner and we don't want to sell Young.  But, as we've seen with Milner, evidently some offers are too good to turn down.  It seems a short-term view to me but I'm not privy to the true state of the finances.

Personally, I would have thought that Ashley would wait to see who the next manager is before deciding where is the best place for him to be.  But if it takes a while to make an appointment then who knows?

I doubt our new manager would be terribly fussed about Ireland being here when they arrive, but I'm certain they would want Ashley to be here.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: john e on August 12, 2010, 02:52:09 PM
if we sell Milner and get Ireland, we will be equal, or in my view a bit better of, as he has been sort of replaced.

how would you replace Young ? with Bentley SWP, Lennon, i'd rather stick with Ash
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Mazrim on August 12, 2010, 02:57:58 PM
Ashley Young isnt going anywhere. Out of interest, who is supposed to be able to afford him?
Chelsea, Man City arent interested apparently because we'd know by know. Arsenal could perhaps but I cant see Wenger being after him.
Spurs? Do me a favour.
Just look at how difficult its been for moneybags City to get Milner. All that money and a really good player in Stephen Ireland and we'd ask for more for Ashley Young, I'm certain of that.

No, a few quid and Robbie Keane arent going to cut it even if I thought there was serious interest from Spurs (which I dont).
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: sfx412 on August 12, 2010, 03:15:16 PM
If he feels that we're not going to sign the players that will give us a realistic go at getting into the CL then he might decide he fancies going to a club that will.

he probably feels he won't get the same prime treatment from the bloke who comes in to sort Mon's crap and wants to state his desire to follow his runaway mate, but we don't know, unlike Mon's departure its just press conjecture.

Be interesting times if RL sells both Milner and Young, based on his policy he won't keep unhappy players and there is no time to sign a manager before the window closes
Be great for the clubs finances, great for his own personal fortune and the clubs liquidity and he can put it out he's blameless.
He didn't arrange for their sales, they wanted to go Gen K will say, he didn't arrange for there to be no manager and he's not going to rush and appoint some fool especially as it will just  put himself under pressure to provide transfer funding, now is he.

He can sit back without much blame, and reflect as he chooses carefully and not worry about providing further funding until January, when he will have a better indication how his new manager is doing, how the accounts look, how his divorce has sorted his finances and how good the offers for the club he has, are.

Seems a perfect scenario to me ;)

Wonder how long before the tabloids pick up on that one, bet Chris has already  :)
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Chris Smith on August 12, 2010, 03:16:32 PM
If he feels that we're not going to sign the players that will give us a realistic go at getting into the CL then he might decide he fancies going to a club that will.

Fuckin hell Chris, whats up with you man? Your not normally this downbeat, Has your Mrs hid the knives?

More sort of thinking out loud, Phil. We're all confused about what is going so I imagine the players are even more so.



Cheer up, Chris. It is just newspaper nonsense.

Normally we'd just write this sort of story off as bullshit. That's probably the best approach now until we see how it all pans out, if only for sanity's sake.

I'm just saying that there's a fair chance given what has gone on this week that Ashley might be considering what is best for him. I don't think he's likely to demand a move and I'm fairly confident that we'd not be in a hurry to cash in but it would be a major surprise if he didn't at least want to have a chat and get some reassuarances.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: sfx412 on August 12, 2010, 03:17:41 PM
Ashley Young isnt going anywhere.

Were you not one of those saying that about Mon.

I know I did because I didn't think RL wanted him out yet and I thought Mon was telling the truth when he said he never quit a half finished job. I should have trusted my instincts more where he was concerned

 
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: midnite on August 12, 2010, 03:20:18 PM
Ashley Young isnt going anywhere.


Were you not one of those saying that about Mon.

I know I did because I didn't think RL wanted him out yet and I thought Mon was telling the truth when he said he never quit a half finished job. I should have trusted my instincts more where he was concerned

 

Let's just hope theres no more
"I'll bed a donkey" talk LOL!!
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Chris Smith on August 12, 2010, 03:20:36 PM
Ashley Young isnt going anywhere. Out of interest, who is supposed to be able to afford him?
Chelsea, Man City arent interested apparently because we'd know by know. Arsenal could perhaps but I cant see Wenger being after him.
Spurs? Do me a favour.
Just look at how difficult its been for moneybags City to get Milner. All that money and a really good player in Stephen Ireland and we'd ask for more for Ashley Young, I'm certain of that.

No, a few quid and Robbie Keane arent going to cut it even if I thought there was serious interest from Spurs (which I dont).

If Spurs get through their CL qualifier then they'll be in a position to bid based on the guaranteed revenue from that.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: LeeB on August 12, 2010, 03:24:01 PM
Malcolm, do you think you've missed any threads out in your desire to tell us all how right you were.

I don't think so, but it's best to make sure in case anyone this side of the moon missed it.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Summers on August 12, 2010, 03:26:50 PM
Out of interest, if Young and his reps did roll into Lerner and Faulkner and say he wants to leave, no matter what we do or say, would you all still slate the board? If a player wants to go, they normally go. Obviously if Ash is happy and wants to stay, the board would be insane to consider selling - but if he wants to go, not much can be done.

Let's hope he doesn't.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 12, 2010, 03:30:22 PM
Malcolm, do you think you've missed any threads out in your desire to tell us all how right you were.

I don't think so, but it's best to make sure in case anyone this side of the moon missed it.

Do you mean you actually understand what he's banging on about most of the time?
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: TheSandman on August 12, 2010, 03:32:07 PM
Ashley Young isnt going anywhere. Out of interest, who is supposed to be able to afford him?
Chelsea, Man City arent interested apparently because we'd know by know. Arsenal could perhaps but I cant see Wenger being after him.
Spurs? Do me a favour.
Just look at how difficult its been for moneybags City to get Milner. All that money and a really good player in Stephen Ireland and we'd ask for more for Ashley Young, I'm certain of that.

No, a few quid and Robbie Keane arent going to cut it even if I thought there was serious interest from Spurs (which I dont).

If Spurs get through their CL qualifier then they'll be in a position to bid based on the guaranteed revenue from that.

It probably won't be enough as they would only get £15million for playing in the group stages of the CL. Maybe we won't want any of their players in exchange as well?

Considering your willingness to believe idle paper talk you must believe that Loic Remy is their no1 target. What is to say that they will have enough to sign Ash after spending an eight figure sum on him?

Spurs already have Aaron Lennon, Luka Modric, Gareth Bale, Niko Kranjcar, Danny Rose and David Bentley as wide midfield options. Why on earth would they spend twenty odd million to add to those?

Redknapp has intimated that he won't pay what we ask as he doesn't have anything like the money needed, spending that much money is very much not his chairman's style.

Ashley Young has already intimated a desire to stay at Aston Villa and sign a new contract.

Does he want more money? Perhaps. Will he get it from Spurs? Not fucking likely as their wage structure is similar to ours (in terms of high earners not mediocre footballers who seldom play).

Ash is a lifelong supporter of Arsenal. Not much of a reason but it may prove a factor.

There is more holes in this story than a top of the range sieve.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 12, 2010, 03:35:28 PM
Ashley Young isnt going anywhere. Out of interest, who is supposed to be able to afford him?
Chelsea, Man City arent interested apparently because we'd know by know. Arsenal could perhaps but I cant see Wenger being after him.
Spurs? Do me a favour.
Just look at how difficult its been for moneybags City to get Milner. All that money and a really good player in Stephen Ireland and we'd ask for more for Ashley Young, I'm certain of that.

No, a few quid and Robbie Keane arent going to cut it even if I thought there was serious interest from Spurs (which I dont).

If Spurs get through their CL qualifier then they'll be in a position to bid based on the guaranteed revenue from that.

If there is a meeting and Ash isnt pleased with what he hears & he does want to go, I'll agree with that statement. Spurs will be certain of a lot of money for qualifying
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: sfx412 on August 12, 2010, 03:35:55 PM
Malcolm, do you think you've missed any threads out in your desire to tell us all how right you were.

I don't think so, but it's best to make sure in case anyone this side of the moon missed it.

Is that how you see it Lee, how strange.

Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Chris Smith on August 12, 2010, 03:39:47 PM
Ashley Young isnt going anywhere. Out of interest, who is supposed to be able to afford him?
Chelsea, Man City arent interested apparently because we'd know by know. Arsenal could perhaps but I cant see Wenger being after him.
Spurs? Do me a favour.
Just look at how difficult its been for moneybags City to get Milner. All that money and a really good player in Stephen Ireland and we'd ask for more for Ashley Young, I'm certain of that.

No, a few quid and Robbie Keane arent going to cut it even if I thought there was serious interest from Spurs (which I dont).

If Spurs get through their CL qualifier then they'll be in a position to bid based on the guaranteed revenue from that.

It probably won't be enough as they would only get £15million for playing in the group stages of the CL. Maybe we won't want any of their players in exchange as well?

Considering your willingness to believe idle paper talk you must believe that Loic Remy is their no1 target. What is to say that they will have enough to sign Ash after spending an eight figure sum on him?

Spurs already have Aaron Lennon, Luka Modric, Gareth Bale, Niko Kranjcar, Danny Rose and David Bentley as wide midfield options. Why on earth would they spend twenty odd million to add to those?

Redknapp has intimated that he won't pay what we ask as he doesn't have anything like the money needed, spending that much money is very much not his chairman's style.

Ashley Young has already intimated a desire to stay at Aston Villa and sign a new contract.

Does he want more money? Perhaps. Will he get it from Spurs? Not fucking likely as their wage structure is similar to ours (in terms of high earners not mediocre footballers who seldom play).

Ash is a lifelong supporter of Arsenal. Not much of a reason but it may prove a factor.

There is more holes in this story than a top of the range sieve.

You really should try to read and understand what I've posted before you go spouting about what I'm willing to believe.

I'll re-post it to save you the trouble of having to look for it.

I'm just saying that there's a fair chance given what has gone on this week that Ashley might be considering what is best for him. I don't think he's likely to demand a move and I'm fairly confident that we'd not be in a hurry to cash in but it would be a major surprise if he didn't at least want to have a chat and get some reassuarances.
 
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on August 12, 2010, 03:40:54 PM
Ashley Young isnt going anywhere. Out of interest, who is supposed to be able to afford him?
Chelsea, Man City arent interested apparently because we'd know by know. Arsenal could perhaps but I cant see Wenger being after him.
Spurs? Do me a favour.
Just look at how difficult its been for moneybags City to get Milner. All that money and a really good player in Stephen Ireland and we'd ask for more for Ashley Young, I'm certain of that.

No, a few quid and Robbie Keane arent going to cut it even if I thought there was serious interest from Spurs (which I dont).

If Spurs get through their CL qualifier then they'll be in a position to bid based on the guaranteed revenue from that.

Exactly. They're holding fire until they have more money and more appeal. It still might not be Ashley but it'll be someone fancy I suspect.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: TheSandman on August 12, 2010, 03:46:23 PM
You really should try to read and understand what I've posted before you go spouting about what I'm willing to believe.

I'll re-post it to save you the trouble of having to look for it.

I'm just saying that there's a fair chance given what has gone on this week that Ashley might be considering what is best for him. I don't think he's likely to demand a move and I'm fairly confident that we'd not be in a hurry to cash in but it would be a major surprise if he didn't at least want to have a chat and get some reassuarances.
 

Sorry, Chris.

I get what you are saying here. I think he will want assurances about where we are going and you are right there.

I don't think it is likely that the board are too willing to sell him and I'm getting a bit peeved by some of the posts on here (and I wouldn't say you are one of the culprits) to the point that I'll jump on a post if I take it as meaning something it doesn't.

I think I need some time off the internerd and take up fishing or golf or something relaxing where I won't hear the words Aston, Villa, Martin, O'Neill and worst of all Tottenham and Hotspur.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Chris Smith on August 12, 2010, 03:48:59 PM
You really should try to read and understand what I've posted before you go spouting about what I'm willing to believe.

I'll re-post it to save you the trouble of having to look for it.

I'm just saying that there's a fair chance given what has gone on this week that Ashley might be considering what is best for him. I don't think he's likely to demand a move and I'm fairly confident that we'd not be in a hurry to cash in but it would be a major surprise if he didn't at least want to have a chat and get some reassuarances.
 

Sorry, Chris.

I get what you are saying here. I think he will want assurances about where we are going and you are right there.

I don't think it is likely that the board are too willing to sell him and I'm getting a bit peeved by some of the posts on here (and I wouldn't say you are one of the culprits) to the point that I'll jump on a post if I take it as meaning something it doesn't.

I think I need some time off the internerd and take up fishing or golf or something relaxing where I won't hear the words Aston, Villa, Martin, O'Neill and worst of all Tottenham and Hotspur.

Cheers, no worries and I think we can all emapthise with your last paragraph.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: placeforparks on August 12, 2010, 03:51:18 PM
but it would be a major surprise if he didn't at least want to have a chat and get some reassuarances.

i imagine that applies to every player at the club and you'd hope faulkner or lerner had been down to bodymoor heath to allay some fears in the past 72 hours.

you've also got to remember that some of the players have been away on international duty, including ashley.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Mazrim on August 12, 2010, 03:55:57 PM
Ashley Young isnt going anywhere.

Were you not one of those saying that about Mon.

I know I did because I didn't think RL wanted him out yet and I thought Mon was telling the truth when he said he never quit a half finished job. I should have trusted my instincts more where he was concerned

 

Right, so we both didn't think MON would walk out and he did. What the fuck has that got to do with Ashley Young?
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: sfx412 on August 12, 2010, 04:04:03 PM
Ashley Young isnt going anywhere.

Were you not one of those saying that about Mon.

I know I did because I didn't think RL wanted him out yet and I thought Mon was telling the truth when he said he never quit a half finished job. I should have trusted my instincts more where he was concerned

 

Right, so we both didn't think MON would walk out and he did. What the fuck has that got to do with Ashley Young?

Sorry bit hard for you to understand?

Simply you and I were wrong in thinking Mon would quit, so possibly as both think Ashley is going no where we might be wrong again.

Nothing sinister but I suppose you need to let off steam .
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Mazrim on August 12, 2010, 04:11:36 PM
Tell us more about Martin O'Neill Mrs Overall. It really is quite fascinating...
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: teamvillage on August 12, 2010, 04:17:37 PM
Dan Roan (BBC) reporting on Twitter that talks were 'positive' and Ashley going nowhere 'for now'.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: LeeB on August 12, 2010, 04:29:40 PM
Malcolm, do you think you've missed any threads out in your desire to tell us all how right you were.

I don't think so, but it's best to make sure in case anyone this side of the moon missed it.

Is that how you see it Lee, how strange.



Yes, it is how I see it, and yes, you are strange.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Richard E on August 12, 2010, 05:03:12 PM
The BBC Football website is now saying he is looking likely to stay...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/aston_villa/8909410.stm
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 12, 2010, 05:06:57 PM
According to one of the rags the deal would be £9m + Keane as well, which would be gutting. You know Harry will get top whack for Keane though.

That would value Keane at about £20m
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on August 12, 2010, 05:13:44 PM
Rest assured, the board will do everything in it's power to keep Ashley happy.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Chris Smith on August 12, 2010, 05:22:11 PM
Rest assured, the board will do everything in it's power to keep Ashley happy.

They'll pay for his Broadband.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on August 12, 2010, 05:23:35 PM
Rest assured, the board will do everything in it's power to keep Ashley happy.

They'll pay for his Broadband.
An all singing and dancing laptop with hi-tec camera that will show off his cock in the best light, whilst he's cleaning it.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: TimTheVillain on August 12, 2010, 05:24:48 PM
Rest assured, the board will do everything in it's power to keep Ashley happy.

Like they have with Milner ?

FWIW, I think Ashley is very settled at Villa and in the Midlands, and Spurs can't afford him.

No money plus Keane would do the trick either - but we ought to be bidding for Keane ... if we had a manager we might have been.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on August 12, 2010, 05:28:06 PM
Rest assured, the board will do everything in it's power to keep Ashley happy.

Like they have with Milner ?



How on earth can we compete with Man City and probable wages of £120,000+pw?
If Man City come in for any player, then it's goodnight Vienna.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: olaftab on August 12, 2010, 05:40:31 PM
Young to Tottenham would be the worst transfer in the history of transfers.

No that was Heskey from Wigan to Villa.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: garyfouroaks on August 12, 2010, 05:43:18 PM
How on earth can we compete with Man City and probable wages of £120,000+pw?
If Man City come in for any player, then it's goodnight Vienna.

What? Rapid Vienna are in for him too?
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: aev on August 12, 2010, 05:58:23 PM
What is the point in going to Spurs to play (in all likelihood) one season of Champions League?
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Irish villain on August 12, 2010, 06:14:12 PM
I didn't see any news today but just checked the bbc website and they say Ashley is likely to stay at villa.  http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/aston_villa/8909410.stm
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 12, 2010, 06:18:29 PM
Ash was on TV saying he would sign a new deal and he was happy, I can't see him changing his mind just because MON has gone!

Im willing to be he will still be here sept 1st I hope so I can't take much more disappointment  ;)
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: themossman on August 12, 2010, 06:51:27 PM
On a grammatical note, can you be poised to stay somewhere?
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Smithy on August 12, 2010, 07:14:55 PM
I wouldn't read too much into these talks, surely meeting a player to discuss a new deal when he has two years on his contract, and is at Ashley's age, is RIGHT thing for a club to do?  Surely you don't want a valuable player moving into the territory of having one year left...

Interest from other clubs is speculation, but I don't doubt the club are talking new contracts.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: paul_e on August 12, 2010, 07:19:41 PM
On a grammatical note, can you be poised to stay somewhere?

Surely you know the answer to that, everyone knows you need to put in a lot of prep work to do nothing 'properly'.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: MattW on August 12, 2010, 10:48:11 PM
The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/12/aston-villa-ashley-young) suggests that the Young is 'receptive' to Villa's proposal of a wage rise and extended contract and 'ready to commit his future to the club'.

Somewhat oddly, the article suggests that 'Curtis Davies could follow suit despite being told a couple of months ago that he was surplus to requirements'.

Quote
Aston Villa  are determined to keep Ashley Young and will offer the England international an extended contract on improved terms to deter interest from Tottenham Hotspur and Everton. The news will come as a huge relief to Villa supporters following a turbulent week which has seen Martin O'Neill resign as manager and James Milner edge closer to completing his protracted transfer to Manchester City.

Villa have no intention of allowing Young to become the third key figure to depart this summer and plan to put a formal offer in front of the 25-year-old, who has less than two years remaining on his deal, before the end of the month. No figures have been discussed and the club have made it clear there are financial parameters to work within, but Villa have indicated they are prepared to offer their highest-paid player an increase on his £65,000 per week salary, probably over an extended four-year period.

Tottenham and Everton – whose interest in Young will come as a surprise to many given the club's financial constraints – had hoped to capitalise on the uncertainty at Villa in the wake of O'Neill's surprise resignation on Monday, but it now looks highly unlikely that the Midlands club will be persuaded to sell one of their most influential players. Randy Lerner, the Villa chairman, is desperate to keep Young at the club and his resolve has been strengthened by the chaotic events this week.

The search for a new manager continues and Young is watching developments with interest, although any concerns he had about the club significantly scaling back their ambitions have been allayed following the meeting today between his representative and Paul Faulkner, Villa's chief executive. Further discussions are expected to take place within the next couple of weeks but the signs are that Young is receptive to Villa's proposal and ready to commit his future to the club.

Curtis Davies could follow suit despite being told a couple of months ago that he was surplus to requirements. Davies, who is expected to start alongside Richard Dunne in central defence against West Ham United on Saturday, was marginalised under O'Neill and rarely featured last season but since the Northern Irishman's departure he has been assured that he is part of the club's long-term plans. Villa are expected to open contract talks with the central defender in the near future.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: TimTheVillain on August 12, 2010, 10:50:39 PM
Rest assured, the board will do everything in it's power to keep Ashley happy.

Like they have with Milner ?



How on earth can we compete with Man City and probable wages of £120,000+pw?
If Man City come in for any player, then it's goodnight Vienna.

Which is precisely what I meant Mark.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Chris Smith on August 12, 2010, 11:31:57 PM
The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/12/aston-villa-ashley-young) suggests that the Young is 'receptive' to Villa's proposal of a wage rise and extended contract and 'ready to commit his future to the club'.

Somewhat oddly, the article suggests that 'Curtis Davies could follow suit despite being told a couple of months ago that he was surplus to requirements'.

Quote
Aston Villa  are determined to keep Ashley Young and will offer the England international an extended contract on improved terms to deter interest from Tottenham Hotspur and Everton. The news will come as a huge relief to Villa supporters following a turbulent week which has seen Martin O'Neill resign as manager and James Milner edge closer to completing his protracted transfer to Manchester City.

Villa have no intention of allowing Young to become the third key figure to depart this summer and plan to put a formal offer in front of the 25-year-old, who has less than two years remaining on his deal, before the end of the month. No figures have been discussed and the club have made it clear there are financial parameters to work within, but Villa have indicated they are prepared to offer their highest-paid player an increase on his £65,000 per week salary, probably over an extended four-year period.

Tottenham and Everton – whose interest in Young will come as a surprise to many given the club's financial constraints – had hoped to capitalise on the uncertainty at Villa in the wake of O'Neill's surprise resignation on Monday, but it now looks highly unlikely that the Midlands club will be persuaded to sell one of their most influential players. Randy Lerner, the Villa chairman, is desperate to keep Young at the club and his resolve has been strengthened by the chaotic events this week.

The search for a new manager continues and Young is watching developments with interest, although any concerns he had about the club significantly scaling back their ambitions have been allayed following the meeting today between his representative and Paul Faulkner, Villa's chief executive. Further discussions are expected to take place within the next couple of weeks but the signs are that Young is receptive to Villa's proposal and ready to commit his future to the club.

Curtis Davies could follow suit despite being told a couple of months ago that he was surplus to requirements. Davies, who is expected to start alongside Richard Dunne in central defence against West Ham United on Saturday, was marginalised under O'Neill and rarely featured last season but since the Northern Irishman's departure he has been assured that he is part of the club's long-term plans. Villa are expected to open contract talks with the central defender in the near future.

I don't think we have any choice if he plays on Saturday.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: ROBBO on August 13, 2010, 03:58:40 AM
I get the impression that most of the players are happy that Martins gone and forget about Ashley Young going, Milner was a good deal for Villa selling Ash would be commercial suicide.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Proposition Joe on August 13, 2010, 10:40:22 AM
Small update, from the BBC's Gossip page:
0923 BST: Winger Ashley Young, who is being linking to Tottenham, will wait to discover the identity of Aston Villa's new manager before deciding on his long-term future. (Press Association)

Not quite as positive as noises coming out yesterday.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: MattW on August 13, 2010, 11:55:23 AM
The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/12/aston-villa-ashley-young) suggests that the Young is 'receptive' to Villa's proposal of a wage rise and extended contract and 'ready to commit his future to the club'.

Somewhat oddly, the article suggests that 'Curtis Davies could follow suit despite being told a couple of months ago that he was surplus to requirements'.

Quote
Aston Villa  are determined to keep Ashley Young and will offer the England international an extended contract on improved terms to deter interest from Tottenham Hotspur and Everton. The news will come as a huge relief to Villa supporters following a turbulent week which has seen Martin O'Neill resign as manager and James Milner edge closer to completing his protracted transfer to Manchester City.

Villa have no intention of allowing Young to become the third key figure to depart this summer and plan to put a formal offer in front of the 25-year-old, who has less than two years remaining on his deal, before the end of the month. No figures have been discussed and the club have made it clear there are financial parameters to work within, but Villa have indicated they are prepared to offer their highest-paid player an increase on his £65,000 per week salary, probably over an extended four-year period.

Tottenham and Everton – whose interest in Young will come as a surprise to many given the club's financial constraints – had hoped to capitalise on the uncertainty at Villa in the wake of O'Neill's surprise resignation on Monday, but it now looks highly unlikely that the Midlands club will be persuaded to sell one of their most influential players. Randy Lerner, the Villa chairman, is desperate to keep Young at the club and his resolve has been strengthened by the chaotic events this week.

The search for a new manager continues and Young is watching developments with interest, although any concerns he had about the club significantly scaling back their ambitions have been allayed following the meeting today between his representative and Paul Faulkner, Villa's chief executive. Further discussions are expected to take place within the next couple of weeks but the signs are that Young is receptive to Villa's proposal and ready to commit his future to the club.

Curtis Davies could follow suit despite being told a couple of months ago that he was surplus to requirements. Davies, who is expected to start alongside Richard Dunne in central defence against West Ham United on Saturday, was marginalised under O'Neill and rarely featured last season but since the Northern Irishman's departure he has been assured that he is part of the club's long-term plans. Villa are expected to open contract talks with the central defender in the near future.

I don't think we have any choice if he plays on Saturday.

Why not, because of that contract clause related to the number of games he plays for us? Isn't that a financial bonus? Surely nothing can compel us to enter into negotiations to extend his contract?

I find it odd that a player who only played two games (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/PlayerProfiles/0,,10265~28192,00.html) last season is having his contract extended before stringing together some decent performances.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 13, 2010, 02:21:45 PM
Redknapp has rubbished any move for Ashley Young.
Title: Re: Ashley's representatives to meet with Villa today
Post by: Ger Regan on August 13, 2010, 02:23:10 PM
Redknapp has rubbished any move for Ashley Young.
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