Aston Villa v Spurs Post-Match Thread

[taylorsworkrate]

I'm more angry at the lack of effort from the players who were selected to be honest. They couldn't give a shit at all.

[john e]

I'm more angry at the lack of effort from the players who were selected to be honest. They couldn't give a shit at all.

I’m sort of hoping they weren’t trying very hard last night
Because if they were it’s even worse

[Nelly]

The booing doesn't exist in a vacuum, it's the response to us sliding and having terrible form, now putting in a "couldn't care less" performance like that. It makes me wonder if the players have stopped responding to Emery?

I'm happily done with Barkley, Abrahams, Sancho and others. Just totally going through the motions and seemingly no desire to make an impact.

One thing that did occur to me, that book, Rise Of The Villains, quite proudly boasted that one of Unai's greatest victories has been educating the Villa Park crowd about how to play. All I'd say is, yes - if we're seen to be giving a shit. I don't think any stadium will put up with a dramatic slide in form and then a performance like that against Spurs.

It's gutting because we have so many problems now and players perhaps not buying into Emery is not at all what we need now.

[The Edge]

I thought the new player Sideshow Bailey showed some neat touches.

[brontebilly]

Maybe, when we are in for a young foreign player, and he chooses similar wages but the lights of London and Tottenham instead, we will regret sacrificing this game. On reflection, Spurs were very good, organised and far more athletic than us all over the park, but they, like us, could have taken it easy and conserved energy for the upcoming games, and still beaten us comfortably.

I thought their midfield 3 set the tone in the first 5 mins. Bentancour, Gallagher and Paulinho were very aggressive and intense from the off, hunting in packs and pressing high. Tielemans and Bogarde were outnumbered and overrun and with Abrahams and Barkley non-existent, it was a case of how many for a while.

Not dissimilar to the Chelsea game a couple of months ago where we stood off and they pulled us apart.

Thought at least v Chelsea that night we were a rabble out of possession for sure but with the ball created a lot of chances. Being outnumbered in midfield is on Emery. Barkley and Tammy pressing from the front was laughable

[RamboandBruno]

The booing doesn't exist in a vacuum, it's the response to us sliding and having terrible form, now putting in a "couldn't care less" performance like that. It makes me wonder if the players have stopped responding to Emery?

I'm happily done with Barkley, Abrahams, Sancho and others. Just totally going through the motions and seemingly no desire to make an impact.

One thing that did occur to me, that book, Rise Of The Villains, quite proudly boasted that one of Unai's greatest victories has been educating the Villa Park crowd about how to play. All I'd say is, yes - if we're seen to be giving a shit. I don't think any stadium will put up with a dramatic slide in form and then a performance like that against Spurs.

It's gutting because we have so many problems now and players perhaps not buying into Emery is not at all what we need now.

If I could be arsed to scroll back on some threads to early to mid-September, I’m pretty much certain there will be comments about Emery losing the dressing room, the players not responding to his methods anymore etc etc. so is that the rule now, this theory gets rolled out everytime we go on a bad run?

[wolfman999]

Woke up this morning.

Still mortified and appalled over that spectacle last night from my club, Aston Villa, supposedly a proud name worldwide.  I just want to apologise to every West Ham and Forest fan out there over us undermining the integrity of the league.

God knows what will happen on Thursday!

Doesn't scan as well as the previous version of the song

Sounds like a country song.

[wolfman999]

Woke up this morning.

Still mortified and appalled over that spectacle last night from my club, Aston Villa, supposedly a proud name worldwide.  I just want to apologise to every West Ham and Forest fan out there over us undermining the integrity of the league.

God knows what will happen on Thursday!

Why apologise?? - us resting players is no different to clubs fielding drastically weakened sides in the domestic cups and everyone accepts it as normal. As for West Ham fans blaming us for them being in the bottom three - well silly me thought that was because they've lost 17 games this season. If we get through on Thursday then all this will be just another indication of Emery's genius.

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IF

(that's a big if)

[N'ZMAV]

if Thursday is a fuck up - then all this is going to be difficult to process, or gloss over.

[The Edge]

The booing doesn't exist in a vacuum, it's the response to us sliding and having terrible form, now putting in a "couldn't care less" performance like that. It makes me wonder if the players have stopped responding to Emery?

I'm happily done with Barkley, Abrahams, Sancho and others. Just totally going through the motions and seemingly no desire to make an impact.

One thing that did occur to me, that book, Rise Of The Villains, quite proudly boasted that one of Unai's greatest victories has been educating the Villa Park crowd about how to play. All I'd say is, yes - if we're seen to be giving a shit. I don't think any stadium will put up with a dramatic slide in form and then a performance like that against Spurs.

It's gutting because we have so many problems now and players perhaps not buying into Emery is not at all what we need now.

If I could be arsed to scroll back on some threads to early to mid-September, I’m pretty much certain there will be comments about Emery losing the dressing room, the players not responding to his methods anymore etc etc. so is that the rule now, this theory gets rolled out everytime we go on a bad run?

It does seem that way. I think the modern parlance is pantwetting.

[olaftab]

The booing doesn't exist in a vacuum, it's the response to us sliding and having terrible form, now putting in a "couldn't care less" performance like that. It makes me wonder if the players have stopped responding to Emery?

No. Players did exactly what Emery wanted with his approach to this match. So yes they are taking full note if their manager's attitude.

[Flamingo Lane]

If Chelsea were well placed to finish 6th, and behind us in 5th, and thereby able to qualify for the CL in the event of us winning the Europa League, then yesterday's capitulation would have been even more difficult to digest.

[kippaxvilla2]

Forest will be more motivated than ever after that throwing of a game directly affecting them.

[ROBBO]

Martinez as good a keeper he is really pisses me of with this foot over the ball looking at options, nearly always passes to a full back who then gets a hard press. It slows everything down from the off.

[eye digress]

I'm avoiding Sky Sports for a few days.

Is the right answer.