Aston Villa v Spurs Post-Match Thread

[Brazilian Villain]

I start a new job on Tuesday, would've been nice to start without an unrelated existential threat but there you go eh?

Wankers.

Good luck.
Hope your new boss isn't a WHammer.

The good news is his new boss is a Spurs fan. He's already got a promotion.

[ChicagoLion]

If it wasn’t for the fact that Tottenham going down would have been hilarious, my only criticism with the starting line up would have been the fact that it contained Morgan Rogers and Youri Tielemans.

Exactly. If you’re going to rest people. Rest the two most important players.
Also. Just never ever ever play Bogarde in central midfield. He’s absolute tosh.

Yes that’s what I don’t get, what was going on with Rogers at the end?

[Nev]

Barkley & Tammy leading our press from the front tonight. Was like a bad dream. Tielemans pushing
up after them and getting ran over repeatedly. Bogarde left lost trying to cover a massive space.

Is Barkley back on the booze again? I’m not sure I saw him even break into a jog.

He was the furthest forward for much of the game which is crackers. In my mind he's there for ball retention when we have the game secure. The fact that he was left on for so long gave away Emery's intention.

[Mellin]

Does anybody seriously believe he was thinking about doing Forest over ahead of this game? Ffs.

No.Only loons and mooks

Bit unnecessary, but I suppose when your head's gone that's how people react.

[LeeB]

I start a new job on Tuesday, would've been nice to start without an unrelated existential threat but there you go eh?

Wankers.

Good luck.
Hope your new boss isn't a WHammer.

The good news is his new boss is a Spurs fan. He's already got a promotion.

I've only spoken to him and there's a slight cockney twang so you might be right.

[Chris Harte]

That performance tonight was a disgrace. And if Spurs get out of trouble now we'll be the ones accused of saving them, ffs.

Jadon Sancho - I was saying before the game that he's not done enough to justify a permanent move to the club and frankly after that gutless display I'll be willing to drive him to Dortmund because they reportedly want him again. Christ knows why, but I suppose there's nowt as queer as folk.

I don't want to lay into Lamare Bogarde but he really isn't worthy of a starting spot in the team. Maybe in future he will be, but not right now.

Playing Tammy ahead of Ollie and you lose a dimension that was apparent withing a few minutes of Ollie coming on, namely his ability to hold the ball up.

[TheToffnar]

Disgraceful on every conceivable level tonight. The most low effort dog shit performance of the season, arguably of Unais entire tenure.

The one thing I'm clinging to is the goal. If we'd have gone into Thursday without scoring for 270 minutes, I'd be even more worried then I am now.

[Olneythelonely]

If this was some sort of master plan, to pile pressure on Forest, why did he start our (certainly from Unai’s point of view) two most important players? I like clinging to any positive as much as the next man, but why would he risk those two?

[LeeB]

If this was some sort of master plan, to pile pressure on Forest, why did he start our (certainly from Unai’s point of view) two most important players? I like clinging to any positive as much as the next man, but why would he risk those two?

There will be a reason, just simple folk like us haven't sussed it yet.

[Dave P]

Does anybody seriously believe he was thinking about doing Forest over ahead of this game? Ffs.

It’s a by product of it but no way was it planned

[Hookeysmith]

Martinez - could do nothing about the goals and had no outlets for quick ball releases

Cash - ok defensively but zero impact going forward
Linderlof- defended adequately but no forward passing of note.
Mings - way too slow and needs 3 touches before a sidewards pass. Time is up for him
Maatsen- little opportunity to get forward

Tielemans- looked like his had cement boots on. Not looked right since his return. Dead balls were abysmal
Bogarde - shocking and cannot be Part ofour future simply not up to it

Barkley - another running in treacle and caught in possession so many times it was unforgivable- amazed he stayed on so long
Rogers - as usual tries to do too much

Tammy - nostalgia brought him back but cannot be a starter at this level.

Sancho - where do I begin with this bottless waste of a skin. I am sure they can hang his kit up for the next game, did not break sweat, did not attempt to make a single tackle, did not go to ground once. Coward of a footballer, bottles even 60/40tackles in his favour and spends most of his time hiding in field to not receive the ball. If Emery even considered another loan for this twat he should be sacked.

Watkins- usual no service and blind alleys
Buendia   - nice goal and a bit of urgency

Emery - I love the bloke and everything he has done for us but we cannot lose sight of his insistence to play only one way and at one tempo. Tonight was so bad it was almost like he did not give a shit as I have never seen him so passive. He is in great danger of going from a messiah to the "nearly man " who cannot handle the big games.
The not turning up performances are starting to stack up and we seem to lose every time we have a seemingly great opportunity to progress.

Thursday is now a huge pressure game and possibly a watershed for his tenure

[Smithy]

Barkley & Tammy leading our press from the front tonight. Was like a bad dream. Tielemans pushing
up after them and getting ran over repeatedly. Bogarde left lost trying to cover a massive space.

This happened multiple times.  There was one period, just before they scored their second, when it genuinely appeared as if the entire team was trying to win a bet that they could go an entire premier league game without breaking into a sprint at any point.  It just felt like the entire team was out for a gentle stroll, while Spurs were willing to run over anyone in their way.  It felt like they were playing with 15.

I can accept defeats. I can accept bad performances. What I am loathe to accept is lying down passively and not putting the effort in.  For me, that's the only reason the crowd reacted the way it did at half-time.   Not the 0-2 scoreline - but the effort shown.  We will always accept a poor result, but we won't accept a poor effort - and that's how it felt tonight.  Well, until the last 10 minutes or so.

I just hope it pays off and we get a proper performance (and result) on Thursday.  Because play anything like that, and we're heading out.

[Ads]

First half was really poor. Mings in the line up is never a good sign, but they had way more out than us and they're also rubbish.

It was bad, everybody Emery included hugely distracted.

Tammy- not mobile enough to play up front on his own.

Barkley- not the legs to play that high up the park. We couldn't press and Spurs had endless time on the ball.

Sancho- doesn't offer anything off the ball or enough contributions on it.

Bogarde- not a midfielder. He can't play with his back to goal.

Mings- just gone at Premier League level, never mind the top 5. Awful. Slows us down, can't play long, can't play forward. Really disrupts our style of play.

[Dave]

Cash - ok defensively but zero impact going forward
Maatsen- little opportunity to get forward

Reckon you've been very generous there. Kolo Muani and Tel were running round both of them as if they weren't there at times.

[LeeB]

God love Mings but yes, his time was up at the end of last season.