Nottingham Forest v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[PaulWinch again]

Let’s be clear there’s two things here - it’s not an ideal result, but it’s far from a disaster. We wouldn’t have taken it before the game, but it’s a manageable scoreline.

However, it was a deliberate approach to focus on control - which isn’t a surprise - but in doing so that was clearly with the primary intent of not conceding. As a result we struggled to change gear when we went behind.

We have to take a different approach in the home leg - I’m not meaning complete hell for leather attack, but we have to be so much more coherent and purposeful in attack. We’re highly unlikely to go through if we only create a handful of chances.

[Rigadon]

It was important that the ref didn’t let them get away with their usual wrestling.   But he did.  They got the marginal decisions. 

They are the ugliest team, both facially and in how they play. 

[Max Villan]

Still gutted this morning. I mean just by the law of averages we should be getting through one of these semi finals, but we always manage to find a way to Villa it all up.

We've got a chance next week but I can't deal with getting my hopes up again.

[PaulWinch again]

Carrying on from before the match, I don't think I've ever seen a more biased report than Nick the prick Mashiter on the BBC. 

Yes I don’t really get his agenda.

[curiousorange]

They are the ugliest team, both facially and in how they play.

And yet these are the qualities of knockout football which seems to stop us winning competitions. No guile, no acknowledgement that marginal decisions can be unfair. And a troglodyte Forest team is in with a better chance of winning a trophy than us because they're not looking to win friends.

[RamboandBruno]

Didn’t comment last night as everyone seemed a bit fraught. I was the most nervous before a game than I can ever remember, stakes being high for all sorts of reasons and deep down I feared coming away two or three down
I dont know if its because i watched it in the Warehouse, which a rocking good atmosphere to be honest, really really loud, that I just didn’t see the turgidity that some people mentioned.
I saw a bit of a blood and thunder game, with two teams going at each other and a draw would of been a completely fair result. We make a mistake and get punished, before that they should of been down to ten men for a shocking tackle and in one way or another that changes the game.

They had the chance when Martinez makes a worldie, we had the chance when it came at Watkins quickly.

Im really not be one eyed here, but there is not a part of me that does not envisage us winning that game of football next Thursday.

[Beard82]

First time I can remember Emery being very vocal about the decision not to send off Anderson. He's not very happy at all.

Long overdue really. We might not like it and hate it when others do it but we’ve been far too passive about past poor decisions that have gone against us in the past and we’ve had to tolerate some absolute whoppers.

The standard of refs is such we have to do it as it’s the only way to get a decision

[Nunkin1965]

Didn’t comment last night as everyone seemed a bit fraught. I was the most nervous before a game than I can ever remember, stakes being high for all sorts of reasons and deep down I feared coming away two or three down
I dont know if its because i watched it in the Warehouse, which a rocking good atmosphere to be honest, really really loud, that I just didn’t see the turgidity that some people mentioned.
I saw a bit of a blood and thunder game, with two teams going at each other and a draw would of been a completely fair result. We make a mistake and get punished, before that they should of been down to ten men for a shocking tackle and in one way or another that changes the game.

They had the chance when Martinez makes a worldie, we had the chance when it came at Watkins quickly.

Im really not be one eyed here, but there is not a part of me that does not envisage us winning that game of football next Thursday.

I'm in agreement with this and yes a big shout for The Warehouse atmosphere last night.
I think we were at the wrong end of a very tight game which I think we put right next week.

[Beard82]

I do not and WILL NOT believe that Monty is ten years younger than me.

That's the most shocking thing I've read on this thread. My mental image of him is at least a decade or two older.

This has been my main take away from the night.  Villa lost, vars shit and I’m old

[aj2k77]

Surely this group will give it their all next Thursday and get this over the line. Otherwise it's Olympiakos, Palace, Notts Forest. 3 Semi Finals against 3 very beatable sides all lost. It would be hard to not say they can't manage the biggest moments in knockout games and that would be a hard way for this to end for them.

[tomd2103]

In the still that you mention, the ball has either already left the player's foot or hasn't got there yet.  Either way, it doesn't capture the precise moment of contact so can't be accurate.  It might be arguing semantics, but you've got officials basically making their own processes up at critical points in massive games.

You do realise the still was used for the illustration purposes and whole frame set is reviewed until they find one as close to contact as 1/100th* of a second allows. But I was also making my own judgement based on the slo-mo shown by TNT where the leg is about to make contact and half the ball is pitchside of the goal post and when contact is made a small sliver is showing the other side of the post and it goes almost straight up. So yes, it was wasn't over the line.

On rewatching it again, Digne was claiming the ball had crossed the line and it was "our ball". No Lucas, it wasn't, keep you hands down next time.

I genuinely don't know what they do or watch to be totally honest.  It's more how get can overturn the awarding of a goal.kick that puzzles me.

[Demitri_C]

The way forest celebrated at end you would think the tie is done.

I really hope we turn up 2nd leg as we were not  at our best at all. Too many poor performers like buendia, digne and youri. All had stinkers

We need to come up with a plan B as all our attacking play was coming from morgan and they just doubled up on him.

Next week get dougie in there at least he tries to make things happen. Go him youri and mcginn. Maybe even sancho instead of buendia  too

[Des Little]

My take is this.  Until that daft pen, the game was panning out exactly as we wanted it to, we controlled the game and gave them very little - in fact at HT I felt that we were going to go on and win it.  We were badly let down by VAR, and whatever Digne was thinking is anyone's guess -  in the end I was just hoping that we could keep it at 1-0, because I honestly believe we'll turn this lot over at VP next week.  For that to happen, we need to take the game to them from the off and look to score early - we also need more width, so for what it's worth I'd start SJM in the 10, play Sancho (yes I've said it) on the wing and bring Maatsen in for Digne. One thing is for sure, when our chances come, we have to bloody well take them - Watkins and Rogers need to be 100% on it.

[London Villan]

Far too passive, like in so many cup matches. We’re not done yet, but we don’t half make it difficult for ourselves.

[Villa Lew]

My worry is that it will end up going to pens, which will terrify me, looking at Wood's penalty, I can't remember the last time a Villa player hit a pen like that.