Nottingham Forest v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Toronto Villa]

I’ve decided and I’m convinced we are going to fucking funeral them in the second leg.

[Somniloquism]

In the still that you mention, the ball has either already left the player's foot or hasn't got there yet.  Either way, it doesn't capture the precise moment of contact so can't be accurate.  It might be arguing semantics, but you've got officials basically making their own processes up at critical points in massive games.

You do realise the still was used for the illustration purposes and whole frame set is reviewed until they find one as close to contact as 1/100th* of a second allows. But I was also making my own judgement based on the slo-mo shown by TNT where the leg is about to make contact and half the ball is pitchside of the goal post and when contact is made a small sliver is showing the other side of the post and it goes almost straight up. So yes, it was wasn't over the line.

On rewatching it again, Digne was claiming the ball had crossed the line and it was "our ball". No Lucas, it wasn't, keep you hands down next time.

[ChicagoLion]

Buendia was just awful, and Bogarde was almost as bad.
It is really difficult to win football matches when you consistently give the ball to the opposition

[Rory]

These ****** think they've won it. Fireworks the lot, the 6 fingered fucking slags.

I do enjoy you when you're angry.

Its a common sex fettish.

Specific to Ads?

[Rory]

Sorry if this was posted earlier. Rare you hear Unai being so scathing about any officiating but he was livid at VAR for not reviewing the foul on Ollie

https://xcancel.com/footballontnt/status/2049965814975955165?s=46

Yep, tells its own story. Still goes out of his way to praise the ref, to say it wasn't his fault, to be a gent about it all, but yeah. Insane that the VAR hasn't sent the ref to the monitor over that.

I think it's the outrage over player safety that's sent him over the edge tbh. Like, reds for hairpulling but not for possible ankle-breakers? It's not right.

I agree that concern for a player's welfare makes an incident like that much more serious than just a bad decision.

Don't agree with the downplaying of hair-pulling. That can cause serious neck injuries, and should be a red card.

[Matt C]

We had it under control and save a daft penalty that had 0-0 written all over it. The tie is far from over.

[rooboy316]

I do not and WILL NOT believe that Monty is ten years younger than me.

That's the most shocking thing I've read on this thread. My mental image of him is at least a decade or two older.

[CT Villan]

and he's wearing a beret, right ?

[Toronto Villa]

Ex ref Keith Hackett’s opinion on the Anderson tackle on Ollie

https://xcancel.com/footyinsider247/status/2049960734713409844?s=46

[Percy McCarthy]

Would have been interesting, if Digne had realised he was playing Football and not Handball, if the lino would have flagged for it crossing the line before any chance on goal from the cross. I know they hold back on offsides but not sure on balls crossing lines.

The ref clearly gave a goal kick, so the lino must have flagged.  The VAR official then intervened and the award of the goal kick was overturned despite there being no real definitive proof that an error was made.  Brentford at home all over again.

Unlike the Brentford one, there was a camera pretty much in line with the goal line and goal posts are the same width as goal lines so with the ball not clearing the post, I would state it was in. If he blew straight after the cross hit the arm, then I suspect it was after the hit on the hand but before any goal would have been scored.

In the still that you mention, the ball has either already left the player's foot or hasn't got there yet.  Either way, it doesn't capture the precise moment of contact so can't be accurate.  It might be arguing semantics, but you've got officials basically making their own processes up at critical points in massive games.

Correct. As you say, like Brentford, where there was no conclusive proof to overturn the original decision.

Ironic, as there was more conclusive proof to overturn the Rogers “foul” at OT.

[Percy McCarthy]

In the still that you mention, the ball has either already left the player's foot or hasn't got there yet.  Either way, it doesn't capture the precise moment of contact so can't be accurate.  It might be arguing semantics, but you've got officials basically making their own processes up at critical points in massive games.

You do realise the still was used for the illustration purposes and whole frame set is reviewed until they find one as close to contact as 1/100th* of a second allows. But I was also making my own judgement based on the slo-mo shown by TNT where the leg is about to make contact and half the ball is pitchside of the goal post and when contact is made a small sliver is showing the other side of the post and it goes almost straight up. So yes, it was wasn't over the line.

On rewatching it again, Digne was claiming the ball had crossed the line and it was "our ball". No Lucas, it wasn't, keep you hands down next time.

Where in the rules does it say that VAR is responsible for ensuring the correct decision is arrived at re: the awarding of goal kicks?